Marty explaining about some scale he "made up" and how to practice them, part by part. This clip was taken from Marty Friedman's "Melodic Control" video.
He looks like at any moment he's going to yawn, stretch his arms upward, & be like...."Well, I'm gonna take a nap now." & just casually get up, set the guitar down & leave with the camera still rolling. So that we are just left staring at an empty chair & a guitar, slightly humming because he didn't bother to even shut off the amp.
Marty is playing a D harmonic minor scale in this video (D, E, F, G, A, Bb, C#, D) on top of the A major chord that he started with -the A being the fifth of the scale that he started with . If you are playing/writing a song and are desiring this effect then you can think of it in those terms, if that is helpful to the way that you learn/think about things. Hope this helps!
He literally played Phyrigian Dominant while telling us not to learn scales lol. Marty is so talented that if he learned Chordal theory he'd be a monster.
Best case scenario: he's heard that sound and ignorantly thinks he has created a scale. Worst case scenario: he's pretentiously playing down his knowledge music theory down in a bid to appear enigmatic.
@@dannyrussell1168 I don't even think he put as much thought into it as you have. Marty is an extremely successful guitar player and is trying to help frustrated people that are learning. I agree with him, most guitar teachers are fucking boring that try to make you a clone of everyone else. Marty works to help you stand a part from other's just like he has. When you hear Marty you know it's him because he isn't interested in being a stock instructor like 99% of guitar teachers out there who bore you to death.
What hes saying is you become a player with your own unique style it you dont sit around like bedroom nobodies playing scales all day. Hes saying figure it out for yourself without a scale book or by wasteful music classes and develop your own style. And in the process youll get a deeper understanding of why these notes work together and how to use them in original ways. My favorite musicians ever never took lessons. Geddy Lee being a good example. Hes my favorite bassist of all time. Dude doesnt even know what scales he happens to be playing are. But he knows the notes sound good and sure plays them better than anyone.
I relate to how he's explained this. Just sticking some notes together descending in pitch, picking each one for a certain sound or feeling that you want. Since I've started trying to learn solos a few months ago I've been doing this. This way it's fun, and it doesn't seem like slaving away for hours on learning patterns that you might never use. This is fuelled by curiosity and where there is curiousity there is interest and where there is interest there is excitement. When it feels like I've discovered something it sticks more because it feels like my own, even though someone has probably already given a name to and used whatever I've just worked out.
He was just giving one example of how you can build a run using little patterns. The run doesn't have to necessarily ascend or descend. Instead of playing pattern 1, pattern 2, pattern 3, you can mix it up and build a solo in any direction. That's the beauty and simplicity of this lesson.
Also he’s found a way with his unusual picking technique to play runs, avoiding awkward string changes by adding in variations that he likes To be fair, it’s a good lesson to be learnt & it keeps it from being predictable I won’t name and names but there’s some Shrapnel shredders who have chops for days. I find them too stiff and samey Even Yngwie when he plays descending fours rarely plays them metronomically and it keeps him from sounding dull
@@ozanmrcan Nope there's not. Marty was driven and spent time working on his skills. He wanted to succeed. When others went to the movies he grabbed bis guitar and rocked in his bedroom. That's the difference.
It's funny how the pro's always say don't waste your time on scales and yet they all know them. Learning scales isn't about memorizing the scale as much as it's about understanding the fretboard and where notes fit together. Then you can try soloing by experimenting with what you've learned. Scales do have benefits.
P.G. K They are correct,I believe though that you don't understand what they're trying to tell you. When it comes to theory it's more like "Learn the theory behind the music,but leave the theory behind you when you play"...
I heard a funny story today from a friend who went to GIT, when Friedman did a clinic there. Apparently, during a session he did, the artist asked him to do a pinch harmonic during a solo. Marty will be the first to tell you that he can't do that at all, so he just plays a sweet lick to make up for it. The artist says,"That was great, but we just really want a pinch harmonic." So Marty asks someone in the room, "Can you do a Pinch Harmonic? Great, here you go" and hands his guitar over.
@@merabalaraq45 I think they just don't count "that" as practice or such, for an example, playing the guitar itself is basically also counted as practice, but most people wouldn't count it as practice, yet the guitarist does improve bit by bit everytime they play the guitar.
1. Yeah no shit, there's a label for everything on the guitar in music theory, he knows this, and he explains how he uses his own scales. Any sequence of notes that fit together is probably a scale. 2. There are many guitarist who don't practice (Dimebag too), bc they know that when they play for fun, they get their best material. They may warmup before a show, but they don't need practice 3. I see no problem with the 2nd reply, just needed a 3. To finalize the rant
+Foo Rankoo But almost every possible scale has been invented and is already in some book, you will just be reinventing them, it just seems a bit clueless...
My friend, I just said something and apparently I need to say it again, THEORY IS NOT USED AS A TOOL FOR SONGWRITING PURPOSES. IT IS USED TO UNDERSTAND MUSIC. I'd even go that far and say that one needs to comprehend a certain amount of theory in order to understand, play and/or write certain types of music. In this case, ofcourse, we're talking about very complex stuff, but still. Try to play some proggy stuff and you won't get far without any knowledge on time sigs and (poly)rhythm. (example
The scale he is playing is called "Phrygian dominant", and it is the fifth mode of harmonic minor. Btw, I suggest not listening to him here. The irony is that he basically reinvented the wheel (or phrygian dominant) with this method of trial & error. Learn the scales, learn the applications, learn everything. By actually knowing the theory, you can reliably use the tools in situations they are known to work well in. There's no good reason not to know the names and applications. Everything that sounds good in tonal music already has a name. Google this stuff. It's like a big web that starts making more and more sense the more you learn, and you see how everything is connected. If you stay in the dark and just trial & error by yourself, you will never make sense of it and can't properly utilize it in your playing to enhance your musicianship. The advice he gave here is terrible and counterproductive. The only benefit to not learning theory is that you will be impressed by music more easily because you can't explain/understand what's happening in a piece. I'd say that's nothing compared to being a better musician overall. The good news is that there's always music that will impress you; it's just that the bar is raised higher.
Multishape I think you can hear that scale in Teo Toriate by Queen. I don't know how much they knew about scales. Geniuses think and do things differently from the rest.
Multishape He's trying to teach you to use your creativity rather than playing boring scales and getting stuck in boxes. I think the point he's trying to make is that "creating" your "own" scales and patterns and licks will help you develop your own unique style. Plus, Marty is extremely modest, he definitely knows more theory than he wants us to think.
right on Jake. Marty relies on Pentatonics a lot like most guitarists but it's the stuff he adds during his shuffling what it's exquisite.. he tends to end in same root note but his minor/Hungarian scales (gypsie or Egyptian) or whatever notes he plays and connects and adds soul is really what makes him special.. Yea, anyone can understand music theory and study but it is hard to teach 'Feel' or 'Soul' as these are subjective in nature : )
I think it's called "rythmic phrasing". Paul Gilbert, Satch, Malmsteen, Petrucci are masters of this technique. Basically just means altering how many notes are being played between the beat. Like he said, a 5 pattern, then a seven pattern, then a triplet feel.
such an amazing guitarist... pure talent right there one of the best of all time.. and his guitars man the jackson kellys i would kill to have one of those
exactly! I think the end result of Marty's playing speaks for itself! This is why Marty sounds so different than all these other "shredders" he's not just playing it by the book.
Marty is hands down the best guitar player in history no doubt. But He says "it's got a name. Harmonic minor OR SOMETHING" He knows it's the harmonic minor he didn't make that one and he knows it.
He's right it's not like you need all the theorie or that learning theory at some advanced school makes you a better guitarist. Theory are just names for every move you make on the guitar that is "namable". I had a discussion once with a bassguitarist and he said, you need theory or at least know more then 5 scales by name. So i challenged him, gradually lowering the tremelo bar and raising it and ask him to name me every note per 1 mn, he couldn't. There nothing wrong with some theory but not knowing what you do seems to be allot more exiting the all just read the same book with the phrygians modes and stuff. And besides, he can keep up with all the theory, i lost the knowledge after 3 lessons and asked my teacher to just learn me how to play instead of giving me those big math scales and wouldn't remember anyhow.
+Arjan Snijder Pretty much. Also, any thing you play on a guitar - or any instrument for that matter - can be pretty much anything at all theoretically -- depending on what the progression you are playing over is. Just changing the underlying chords or melody can change everything. In that respect theory is fairly well useless. Look at all the greatest guitarists for example - they dont have the time to stand up and play to an audience and explain what they are doing. And when they are playing they cant think about what they are doing because it would take too long. Composition wise it is useful for mapping out an interesting song. But practically its nearly useless really. Mostly theoretical ramblings are just there to show off understanding of theoretical ramblings. Also, some of those big name guitarists are fairly well useless when it comes to a live improvisation on the spot. That's really where being a player matters.
I THINK it's based largely off of the japanese Hirajoshi scale and lots of Harmonic minor scales. The hardest part is trying to emulate his half-bends... He's crazy unique.
His method is great, but I dislike how he implies that his approach isn't based in learning theory - it is. 'Limiting yourself' isn't a case of learning scales vs making them up yourself (any scale you can 'make up' already exists anyway) but how you use them in your playing, like with the phrasing techniques in the video. The fact that Marty can come up with runs like that has virtually nothing to do with him 'making up' the scales, as if you just learn them you'd have the same starting point. Not to mention you'd have made your life a whole lot easier by not feeling your way through the dark trying to find what does and doesn't work.
Sam Todd there’s your mistake. In music, there’s no such a thing as “it doesn’t work.” If you think otherwise, if that wasn’t the case, we would be still be playing boring classical music.
Juan Correa Exactly Heavy metal rhythm playing wouldn't even exist because they're mostly parallel fifths- power chords. And in classical music theory, that is forbidden. So yeah, exactly. That's why jazz music theory is different too.
I love all the people in the comments who think they are guitar gods because they can name all the notes in these scales and use fancy ten dollar words like Phrygian and Mixolydian. Yet most of these people don't even have videos of them playing an instrument. Wow. What a surprise
If you are practicing scales, remember that a guitar that has the action set up good is easier to play. Also, light gauge guitar strings can make you a bit faster too. #guitarlessons #guitartips #guitarsetup #guitaraction #guitartechtips
really insightful guitar advice, blondbeard10, thanks for replying - and the name calling, very classy ;P It's not "obvious" - you can be a great guitar player and still give very bad advice. If you learn the language of music, you can say anything you want with the guitar - you can sing your emotions through it; tell a story. If instead you randomly bumble around during a solo you WILL go out of KEY a LOT. The truth speaks for itself (no matter who says it) Cheers! :)
There are literally dozens of scales that cover every possible combination and permutation of the 12-tone-chromatic scale. For every beginning guitarist that shouts "Eurika! A New Scale!" there's literally a hundred other guitarists that shouted the same thing while hundreds of years of musical literature collect dust. Knowing the scales that already exist will not limit you unless you LET them. It's like a cookbook -- the recipes are there for STARTING POINTS.
@1madaboutguitar Apology accepted my friend. I think you sorta misunderstood my intentions.Marty is one of my top ten favorite guitar players of all time. I actually own this video and another of his on VHS. But Marty doesn't have a RUclips channel where he puts up free lessons every day. I'm just getting started but my channel will be significantly more comprehensive in what it will teach because it will cover 1000 times as much as the few 60 minute videos Marty has released.
Marty is right, and this is why he's so much better than almost anyone. When someone like him makes up the scale, there's no filler. He's finding a new idea for almost every riff that he has to play over top of. The result is that there are no "formula" notes like most lamers who play "scales" have littering up their solos.
It's awesome when you realize you been doing this naturally since you started playing. I could never use all these scales and shit, I would maybe just base it off a sound, find the notes, then just build a lick off of it. Makes more sense, also makes it where you can get exactly what you want just by going off of your ear.
If you guys were wondering what he's playing (funny, he doesn't know himself, he had an amazing natural talent), it sounds like a Phrygian lick. If you are trying to go for a marty-like sound in your solo's then this is perfect, it has that egyptian/exotic sound to it and really stands apart from standard blues/pentatonic fare.
lol! Yeah, seems like he's about to whip out a bong and go, "Hold up a second." *bubble* *bubble* *bubble* "What are we talking about? Oh yeah patterns..."
transcribe the audio on "CC" 1:02(Guitar) - "an American" 1:03(Marty) and i like the way that senate seat ,eliminating out until i die it into a form that i liked 1:09(guitar) Cuomo or internal your honor i'm going to rule it in 1:57(guitar) The man in the eye LoL XDD
@1madaboutguitar No problem my friend. I don't mean to come across as a a-hole. I just want guitar players interested in learning more to check out my lessons cuz I think I have a lot to offer, especially to beginners. I watched some of your videos by the way. Good stuff ;) Cyber High Fives!
@TheSyuFan I may say he uses pretty usual scales, but as he deletes notes they start to sound very unusual. Many ppl think he uses Hirajoshi or Iwato Scale. When i asked him in a clinic, he say he didint know that scales but he probably uses them without having a clue. It's not so hard to believe since scales are everywhere and its impossible to invent a new one, so anything you play is already on a scale.
Can’t really make up scales on the spot especially in a jam session or gig. It’s useful to know as much theory as you can. Marty is amazing though and probably knows more than he says.
Mmm...theory without a doubt helps, but, "being gifted" must occur and realize you must try creative ways to make a solo if you want to get out of the same dead-licks. The best way is to study other people's solos, like their licks. But, you must know certain theory. You can find much on your own though, I think. But you must learn BASIC theory at least. Otherwise it wont make sense.
check out some George Lynch or Dave Navarro lessons. They are shredders and don't sweep at all. But, they show that you can play a million things using the same concepts. Also, one way to open up the available notes is start by playing a chord progression (riff) outside of your comfort zone. Maybe even use someone else's riff and just have fun. I like to solo over Opeth and Dream Theater because they play outside of the typical metal box.
been playing 7 and a half years. i will never understand how to play the right notes over the riffs im playing. when i do, its the same patterns that seem to always work, but its no fun playing the same crap all the time. I can shred, sweep pick, and do all the technical stuff, but when it comes to making a good solo, im lost. I play it by ear and sometimes i can do great, but mostly im going back to the same patterns
You're completely missing the point. Learning even just simple music theory allows you to be aware of what you're actually doing. What Marty is playing here isn't original. He's playing a Phrygian Dominant scale. You see, music theory isn't reserved for just classical players who can't read music. Look up Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Jason Becker, Vinnie Moore, Paul Gilbert, and many other virtuosos. They didn't compose their masterpieces by just fumbling around with the guitar.
Learning scales the way he describes it is the equivalent of trying to navigate a maze with your eyes closed. You'll stumble around for MUCH longer than you need to before you find the correct path. What he says does have some merit though. Some practice time should be dedicated to creativity, although what he's "discovering" are scales that already exist. He is an expert at phrasing these seemingly random ideas. Source: I'm a guitar teacher.
@uncleallo everyone has special abilities for me kirk has the ability to put a lot of feeling in a few notes...you just feel with it... i've seen metallica live the first tim in CZ @ a Big 4 Show and between songs he pulled of a wonderful clean solo...just wonderful but still...he loves the pedal too much...(even when it's part of his style) others are better than him...as hole musician, as guitarplayer... but i think he plays better drums than lars*g*
Yeah umm, no one is ahead of Kirk Hammett. What more does he have to do as a musician? Kirk Hammett fucking rocks, and whoever says otherwise is a hater. For you even to bring him up on this video for any other reason than to praise him as a great guitarist makes just makes you a lame hater. No one is talking about you on any other vids because your a talentless and irrelevent. More love less hate youll feel better trust me.
If a friggian dom scale is what he is playing where does it come from? Ans: D harmonic minor. Play the scale and tell me it's not the sound Marty is getting. He's just starting on different tones (a for the root of the chord he's playing vs D, the scale root but a passing or avoid note against the A sounding harmony. Both descriptions are get the same sound but one is easier to think of when improvising. Just my take. Love to all.
He doesn't say the truth for shit. Scales work in all scenarios and will never limit you; ignorance limits you. Also, it saves you the time of guess and check methods, plus your self made "scales" are limited by what you can come up with where as learning proper theory allows you to use what everyone has come up with. With 2 guitarists of equal skill level, the one with theory will ALWAYS beat the other guy... Perfect example, Paul Gilbert vs Marty Friedman, Paul makes him look like ge doesnt k
@BullgoesforGold355 some aspects of musical theory are deep and psychological, while others are totally arbitrary. there are 12 different keys, but that is only because there are 12 months in a year. It doesn't delve int to semi tones, or quarter tones. the main reason for this is because about 500 years ago, musical theory was invented, and they made it as confusing as possible so "simpletons" couldn't understand it.
Bein there is really only 12 notes on the guitar (obviously different pitches but ultimately 12 notes) I have found it is about impossible this day in age to claim you actually made up your own scale. There are sooooo many variations of sooooo many existing scales I'm willing to bet any combination on any sets of notes already has a name applied to it. Marty seems like a good guy but I doubt he actually invented some kind of "new scale" lol
@Aoimusha412 also, how exactly do you think scales were made in the first place ? they didnt magically appear, some unknown entity certainly didnt teach people how to do it, PEOPLE MADE THEM UP!!!! and they made them probably using this same method, its not about your knowledge of theory, fair enough it helps a shit load but on the other hand i also know some people who are intense at theory but suck balls at practical ability and vice versa
@Aoimusha412 i was rferring to the comment about not making a video if you dont know scales, it wasnt origonally intended as a lesson on scales it was intended as a music style interview showing how HE does things not how everyone else should, do you honestly think id be as stupid as to think that fame had anything to do with practical ability lol, fuck i know plenty of musicians in my NC music class that are better than famous musicians, i simply stated a fact ;)
@spacemanjames omg... People ALWAYS use replies like this and it never helps. Dude, being famous has absolutely NOTHING to do with being good or knowledgable about things. Some guy who shreds but doesn't know theory will easily impress a nonmusically inclined or uneducated crowd. He plays good, but that had nothing to do with how much he KNOWS. if being good had to do with being famous, the johnas Brothers wouldn't exist...
@karnoch *accidentals..... also saying that a note doesn't belong to a key is incorrect, i think you mean doesn't belong to a scale, and no not all music is based on the structure of scales, most music is based around chord progressions built from keys and then scales are built form those chords, also pay attention he didn't mean it as in making them up on the spot he more meant, if you read a scale in front of you, fair enough you can get it first time and you can practice it over and over
He looks like at any moment he's going to yawn, stretch his arms upward, & be like...."Well, I'm gonna take a nap now." & just casually get up, set the guitar down & leave with the camera still rolling. So that we are just left staring at an empty chair & a guitar, slightly humming because he didn't bother to even shut off the amp.
Great comment 😂
I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣
Marty Friedman is the Bob Ross of guitarists.
so true
Leslie Marrowbone Both Marty and Bob Ross are "human quaaludes".
nah more like paul gilbert is the bob ross of guitar
6 String Science here’s a happy little harmonic minor
I so agree!
I guess the moral of the story is: Use your ears!
Lol he's not stoned. What's going on here according to Friedman:
"Can you think of anything more boring than explaining music? To a camera?"
weed is next to impossible to get in Japan
@@mgcuniverse9037 Really? Why is that?
He almost sounds like Toby Flenderson from The Office. The man is an absolute beast though
Maritime777 yesss!🤣
In any given case, its the opposite dude, this video is from the 90's
i love how hes full of emotion
3:22
he's so fucking high lol
Joker ir
No no. High is him. Marty knows what is going on!
Haha, didn't notice him spacing out, but he said that he usually gets really bored in lessons which is why he looks high or stoned.
J O K E R / ジョーカ / yo what the hell? How did I find you here? Lol I suppose you are a big fan of Marty judging that you have his guitar
put 2 time and you've got Marty Friedman high on cocaine telling u how to make your own scale patterns
Marty looks like he's staring of into space.
he's high
Apostle Slayer kinda late, but he has a lazy eye and he compensates for it but ends up looking like he's staring into space
put 0.5 time at the begining and start laugh
+Santiago R SCAAAAAAAAALS
+Santiago R Sounds like he's high! XD
+Santiago R lol omg xD
would be awesome to get high with Friedman though XD
vamos bolso!!!
what happens when you smoke a bong with dave
I still have VHS copies of “Melodic Control” & “Exotic Metal.”
I used to practice the lessons EVERY DAY in the early ‘90s.
😁
Marty is playing a D harmonic minor scale in this video (D, E, F, G, A, Bb, C#, D) on top of the A major chord that he started with -the A being the fifth of the scale that he started with . If you are playing/writing a song and are desiring this effect then you can think of it in those terms, if that is helpful to the way that you learn/think about things. Hope this helps!
thank you
shouldnt you play like A harmonic minor on A chord?
@@uchihamadara7248A major’s minor relative is Fsharp
He literally played Phyrigian Dominant while telling us not to learn scales lol. Marty is so talented that if he learned Chordal theory he'd be a monster.
Best case scenario: he's heard that sound and ignorantly thinks he has created a scale.
Worst case scenario: he's pretentiously playing down his knowledge music theory down in a bid to appear enigmatic.
I’m pretty sure he’s indicating certain patterns he’s made up, as opposed to just running up and down the scale lol.
@@dannyrussell1168 I don't even think he put as much thought into it as you have. Marty is an extremely successful guitar player and is trying to help frustrated people that are learning. I agree with him, most guitar teachers are fucking boring that try to make you a clone of everyone else. Marty works to help you stand a part from other's just like he has. When you hear Marty you know it's him because he isn't interested in being a stock instructor like 99% of guitar teachers out there who bore you to death.
What hes saying is you become a player with your own unique style it you dont sit around like bedroom nobodies playing scales all day. Hes saying figure it out for yourself without a scale book or by wasteful music classes and develop your own style. And in the process youll get a deeper understanding of why these notes work together and how to use them in original ways. My favorite musicians ever never took lessons. Geddy Lee being a good example. Hes my favorite bassist of all time. Dude doesnt even know what scales he happens to be playing are. But he knows the notes sound good and sure plays them better than anyone.
I relate to how he's explained this. Just sticking some notes together descending in pitch, picking each one for a certain sound or feeling that you want. Since I've started trying to learn solos a few months ago I've been doing this. This way it's fun, and it doesn't seem like slaving away for hours on learning patterns that you might never use. This is fuelled by curiosity and where there is curiousity there is interest and where there is interest there is excitement. When it feels like I've discovered something it sticks more because it feels like my own, even though someone has probably already given a name to and used whatever I've just worked out.
He was just giving one example of how you can build a run using little patterns. The run doesn't have to necessarily ascend or descend. Instead of playing pattern 1, pattern 2, pattern 3, you can mix it up and build a solo in any direction. That's the beauty and simplicity of this lesson.
Also he’s found a way with his unusual picking technique to play runs, avoiding awkward string changes by adding in variations that he likes
To be fair, it’s a good lesson to be learnt & it keeps it from being predictable
I won’t name and names but there’s some Shrapnel shredders who have chops for days. I find them too stiff and samey
Even Yngwie when he plays descending fours rarely plays them metronomically and it keeps him from sounding dull
1:01 literally how i've been learning guitar
Man Marty is such a beast. I wish I had a tenth of the talent that he has.
There’s no such thing as talent. Just effort and consistency.
@@MrSubscriber77 no there is
@@ozanmrcan talent is just an excuse for those that believe skill is born and not made
@@d3gkryan823 nope
@@ozanmrcan Nope there's not. Marty was driven and spent time working on his skills. He wanted to succeed. When others went to the movies he grabbed bis guitar and rocked in his bedroom. That's the difference.
It's funny how the pro's always say don't waste your time on scales and yet they all know them. Learning scales isn't about memorizing the scale as much as it's about understanding the fretboard and where notes fit together. Then you can try soloing by experimenting with what you've learned. Scales do have benefits.
P.G. K They are correct,I believe though that you don't understand what they're trying to tell you. When it comes to theory it's more like "Learn the theory behind the music,but leave the theory behind you when you play"...
I was lookin for this comment
i love how he can make metal sound so like eastern
This lesson...... THIS Lesson..... THIS FUCKING LESSON, ALL HAIL MARTY \m/
I like how he explains things it makes it easier for the not so technically advanced guitarist.
His playing always reminds me of the middle east for some reason
Wow, this is a good video to develop oneself as a player. Blew my mind with simple ideas.
He is so stoned :D
I heard a funny story today from a friend who went to GIT, when Friedman did a clinic there. Apparently, during a session he did, the artist asked him to do a pinch harmonic during a solo. Marty will be the first to tell you that he can't do that at all, so he just plays a sweet lick to make up for it. The artist says,"That was great, but we just really want a pinch harmonic." So Marty asks someone in the room, "Can you do a Pinch Harmonic? Great, here you go" and hands his guitar over.
You can count on your fingers how many times he blinked
Marty on Lucretia - still one of the best solos on record.
Heard it in my head as soon as I read your comment. 😂😂
I agree. 👍That record has some great solos.
This was the first guitar instructional video I ever bought back in the late 90s and I still apply it today I learned so much from it.
3:19, Love how his mood changes so fast.
Marty can always make it like he is playing on a neck with 44 frets (due to his unpredictability).
44 frets and 35 stings
Marty isn't playing just random notes...as he'd lead you to believe. He's playing scales whether he realizes it or not.
i think Marty's lie simililar to the lie mustaine says "i don't practise"
@@merabalaraq45 I think they just don't count "that" as practice or such, for an example, playing the guitar itself is basically also counted as practice, but most people wouldn't count it as practice, yet the guitarist does improve bit by bit everytime they play the guitar.
1. Yeah no shit, there's a label for everything on the guitar in music theory, he knows this, and he explains how he uses his own scales. Any sequence of notes that fit together is probably a scale.
2. There are many guitarist who don't practice (Dimebag too), bc they know that when they play for fun, they get their best material. They may warmup before a show, but they don't need practice
3. I see no problem with the 2nd reply, just needed a 3. To finalize the rant
I think he is the only guitar player who doesnt use his pinky and he is so fucking good player
Nikos Papadopoulos look closely he does use his pinky 3:48
go watch michael keene
1:51 at .75 speed
Kevin Stephens 1.25 speed
Chuck shulder 2x speed
what is the full name to this scale??
@@stavenful Phrygian Dominant (the 5th mode of the Harmonic Minor)
If you have to "invent" scales yourself, that's gonna take an awful lot of time. Reading a book about them goes much faster.
Yeah the book might be faster.but you'll prolly just be another average guitar player and never a guitar god.
+Foo Rankoo But almost every possible scale has been invented and is already in some book, you will just be reinventing them, it just seems a bit clueless...
Ha no way im holding a jackson Kelly right now. nice jam
My friend, I just said something and apparently I need to say it again, THEORY IS NOT USED AS A TOOL FOR SONGWRITING PURPOSES. IT IS USED TO UNDERSTAND MUSIC.
I'd even go that far and say that one needs to comprehend a certain amount of theory in order to understand, play and/or write certain types of music. In this case, ofcourse, we're talking about very complex stuff, but still. Try to play some proggy stuff and you won't get far without any knowledge on time sigs and (poly)rhythm. (example
Marty is one of the greatest guitarists ever
The scale he is playing is called "Phrygian dominant", and it is the fifth mode of harmonic minor.
Btw, I suggest not listening to him here. The irony is that he basically reinvented the wheel (or phrygian dominant) with this method of trial & error. Learn the scales, learn the applications, learn everything. By actually knowing the theory, you can reliably use the tools in situations they are known to work well in. There's no good reason not to know the names and applications. Everything that sounds good in tonal music already has a name. Google this stuff. It's like a big web that starts making more and more sense the more you learn, and you see how everything is connected. If you stay in the dark and just trial & error by yourself, you will never make sense of it and can't properly utilize it in your playing to enhance your musicianship.
The advice he gave here is terrible and counterproductive. The only benefit to not learning theory is that you will be impressed by music more easily because you can't explain/understand what's happening in a piece. I'd say that's nothing compared to being a better musician overall. The good news is that there's always music that will impress you; it's just that the bar is raised higher.
Multishape Thanks :D
Multishape I think you can hear that scale in Teo Toriate by Queen. I don't know how much they knew about scales. Geniuses think and do things differently from the rest.
Multishape He's trying to teach you to use your creativity rather than playing boring scales and getting stuck in boxes. I think the point he's trying to make is that "creating" your "own" scales and patterns and licks will help you develop your own unique style. Plus, Marty is extremely modest, he definitely knows more theory than he wants us to think.
right on Jake. Marty relies on Pentatonics a lot like most guitarists but it's the stuff he adds during his shuffling what it's exquisite.. he tends to end in same root note but his minor/Hungarian scales (gypsie or Egyptian) or whatever notes he plays and connects and adds soul is really what makes him special.. Yea, anyone can understand music theory and study but it is hard to teach 'Feel' or 'Soul' as these are subjective in nature : )
lol, he's 10x the musician you'll ever be bro. He simply learned using his ear, rather than theory. I'm still an advocate of theory though.
guitar GOD. makes it look so easy
he doing it like im doing it.
or no wait i think im doing it like he is doing it ;) love your marty
I think it's called "rythmic phrasing". Paul Gilbert, Satch, Malmsteen, Petrucci are masters of this technique. Basically just means altering how many notes are being played between the beat. Like he said, a 5 pattern, then a seven pattern, then a triplet feel.
It is recommended to watch this video at x1.25 speed, until he starts playing. Thank you.
It sounds Egyptian
The phrygian dominant mode it is. Check it out
I also did not know you played the piano
such an amazing guitarist... pure talent right there one of the best of all time.. and his guitars man the jackson kellys i would kill to have one of those
exactly! I think the end result of Marty's playing speaks for itself! This is why Marty sounds so different than all these other "shredders" he's not just playing it by the book.
Marty is hands down the best guitar player in history no doubt. But He says "it's got a name. Harmonic minor OR SOMETHING"
He knows it's the harmonic minor he didn't make that one and he knows it.
Angelo Fanella He is my favourite player of all times !!
@Waters - Purple
So, just making 💩up till it sounds good.
That's exaclty how i learned to play.😅👍
He's right it's not like you need all the theorie or that learning theory at some advanced school makes you a better guitarist. Theory are just names for every move you make on the guitar that is "namable". I had a discussion once with a bassguitarist and he said, you need theory or at least know more then 5 scales by name. So i challenged him, gradually lowering the tremelo bar and raising it and ask him to name me every note per 1 mn, he couldn't. There nothing wrong with some theory but not knowing what you do seems to be allot more exiting the all just read the same book with the phrygians modes and stuff. And besides, he can keep up with all the theory, i lost the knowledge after 3 lessons and asked my teacher to just learn me how to play instead of giving me those big math scales and wouldn't remember anyhow.
+Arjan Snijder
Pretty much. Also, any thing you play on a guitar - or any instrument for that matter - can be pretty much anything at all theoretically -- depending on what the progression you are playing over is. Just changing the underlying chords or melody can change everything. In that respect theory is fairly well useless. Look at all the greatest guitarists for example - they dont have the time to stand up and play to an audience and explain what they are doing. And when they are playing they cant think about what they are doing because it would take too long. Composition wise it is useful for mapping out an interesting song. But practically its nearly useless really.
Mostly theoretical ramblings are just there to show off understanding of theoretical ramblings. Also, some of those big name guitarists are fairly well useless when it comes to a live improvisation on the spot. That's really where being a player matters.
I THINK it's based largely off of the japanese Hirajoshi scale and lots of Harmonic minor scales. The hardest part is trying to emulate his half-bends... He's crazy unique.
His method is great, but I dislike how he implies that his approach isn't based in learning theory - it is. 'Limiting yourself' isn't a case of learning scales vs making them up yourself (any scale you can 'make up' already exists anyway) but how you use them in your playing, like with the phrasing techniques in the video. The fact that Marty can come up with runs like that has virtually nothing to do with him 'making up' the scales, as if you just learn them you'd have the same starting point. Not to mention you'd have made your life a whole lot easier by not feeling your way through the dark trying to find what does and doesn't work.
Sam Todd there’s your mistake. In music, there’s no such a thing as “it doesn’t work.” If you think otherwise, if that wasn’t the case, we would be still be playing boring classical music.
Juan Correa Exactly
Heavy metal rhythm playing wouldn't even exist because they're mostly parallel fifths- power chords. And in classical music theory, that is forbidden. So yeah, exactly. That's why jazz music theory is different too.
I love all the people in the comments who think they are guitar gods because they can name all the notes in these scales and use fancy ten dollar words like Phrygian and Mixolydian. Yet most of these people don't even have videos of them playing an instrument. Wow. What a surprise
If you are practicing scales, remember that a guitar that has the action set up good is easier to play. Also, light gauge guitar strings can make you a bit faster too. #guitarlessons #guitartips #guitarsetup #guitaraction #guitartechtips
Light gauge strings sound like shit and low action for a really great buzzy tone huh?
really insightful guitar advice, blondbeard10, thanks for replying -
and the name calling, very classy ;P
It's not "obvious" - you can be a great guitar player and still give very bad advice.
If you learn the language of music, you can say anything you want with the guitar - you can sing your emotions through it; tell a story.
If instead you randomly bumble around during a solo you WILL go out of KEY a LOT.
The truth speaks for itself (no matter who says it)
Cheers! :)
There are literally dozens of scales that cover every possible combination and permutation of the 12-tone-chromatic scale. For every beginning guitarist that shouts "Eurika! A New Scale!" there's literally a hundred other guitarists that shouted the same thing while hundreds of years of musical literature collect dust.
Knowing the scales that already exist will not limit you unless you LET them. It's like a cookbook -- the recipes are there for STARTING POINTS.
Learn
your
theory
I'm telling you, unless you're incredibly gifted learn your goddamn theory
Very nice....just practice your favorite scale and then be creative ... theory is a tool... not solutions!
@1madaboutguitar Apology accepted my friend. I think you sorta misunderstood my intentions.Marty is one of my top ten favorite guitar players of all time. I actually own this video and another of his on VHS. But Marty doesn't have a RUclips channel where he puts up free lessons every day. I'm just getting started but my channel will be significantly more comprehensive in what it will teach because it will cover 1000 times as much as the few 60 minute videos Marty has released.
Anyone else feeling high while watching him? o.O xD
Marty is right, and this is why he's so much better than almost anyone. When someone like him makes up the scale, there's no filler. He's finding a new idea for almost every riff that he has to play over top of. The result is that there are no "formula" notes like most lamers who play "scales" have littering up their solos.
3:22 he said it would be more interesting but he looks like he is so bored
Don’t follow the books follow Marty Friedman
It's awesome when you realize you been doing this naturally since you started playing. I could never use all these scales and shit, I would maybe just base it off a sound, find the notes, then just build a lick off of it. Makes more sense, also makes it where you can get exactly what you want just by going off of your ear.
If you guys were wondering what he's playing (funny, he doesn't know himself, he had an amazing natural talent), it sounds like a Phrygian lick. If you are trying to go for a marty-like sound in your solo's then this is perfect, it has that egyptian/exotic sound to it and really stands apart from standard blues/pentatonic fare.
I like Marty's lessons, but I think he's a bit high strung.
lol! Yeah, seems like he's about to whip out a bong and go, "Hold up a second." *bubble* *bubble* *bubble* "What are we talking about? Oh yeah patterns..."
transcribe the audio on "CC"
1:02(Guitar) - "an American"
1:03(Marty) and i like the way that senate seat ,eliminating out until i die it into a form that i liked
1:09(guitar) Cuomo or internal your honor i'm going to rule it in
1:57(guitar) The man in the eye
LoL XDD
@1madaboutguitar No problem my friend. I don't mean to come across as a a-hole. I just want guitar players interested in learning more to check out my lessons cuz I think I have a lot to offer, especially to beginners. I watched some of your videos by the way. Good stuff ;) Cyber High Fives!
crap, his picking style always makes me feel fascinated and grossed out at the same time
he's good though XD
@TheSyuFan I may say he uses pretty usual scales, but as he deletes notes they start to sound very unusual.
Many ppl think he uses Hirajoshi or Iwato Scale. When i asked him in a clinic, he say he didint know that scales but he probably uses them without having a clue. It's not so hard to believe since scales are everywhere and its impossible to invent a new one, so anything you play is already on a scale.
I read some of these comments, and I simply CANNOT BELIEVE THIS?!?! People who actually DISLIKE Marty FUCKING Friedman?!?!?!
ok here goes...he sounds bored and half asleep..............that was my point .ok!........
nothing to do with music tho!...
"Alright, I'm doing this for the cash, doing it for the cash, just for the cash..."
I'm a big marty friedman fan. tried to make a solo following each and every chord. Check it out
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Haha i use the same method to find scales! I play random notes over chords and remember the patterns.
Jeff young taught me better.
Number one Marty Friedman!!...
tab sir please i want to learn cause we can play that even no key any key!
Can’t really make up scales on the spot especially in a jam session or gig. It’s useful to know as much theory as you can. Marty is amazing though and probably knows more than he says.
Marty is great but if you are looking for the best lessons on here look no further than mine.
nice one!
Always loved Marty
" alright everyone lets have some fun" (all in a monotone voice)
man you are so bad ahahahahha XD
Suicide Mission
complete it as fast as you can
Lmao "Got some name you know...harmonic minor or something like that..." ROFL!
Mmm...theory without a doubt helps, but, "being gifted" must occur and realize you must try creative ways to make a solo if you want to get out of the same dead-licks. The best way is to study other people's solos, like their licks. But, you must know certain theory. You can find much on your own though, I think. But you must learn BASIC theory at least. Otherwise it wont make sense.
check out some George Lynch or Dave Navarro lessons. They are shredders and don't sweep at all. But, they show that you can play a million things using the same concepts. Also, one way to open up the available notes is start by playing a chord progression (riff) outside of your comfort zone. Maybe even use someone else's riff and just have fun. I like to solo over Opeth and Dream Theater because they play outside of the typical metal box.
been playing 7 and a half years. i will never understand how to play the right notes over the riffs im playing. when i do, its the same patterns that seem to always work, but its no fun playing the same crap all the time. I can shred, sweep pick, and do all the technical stuff, but when it comes to making a good solo, im lost. I play it by ear and sometimes i can do great, but mostly im going back to the same patterns
You're completely missing the point. Learning even just simple music theory allows you to be aware of what you're actually doing. What Marty is playing here isn't original. He's playing a Phrygian Dominant scale. You see, music theory isn't reserved for just classical players who can't read music. Look up Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Jason Becker, Vinnie Moore, Paul Gilbert, and many other virtuosos. They didn't compose their masterpieces by just fumbling around with the guitar.
Learning scales the way he describes it is the equivalent of trying to navigate a maze with your eyes closed. You'll stumble around for MUCH longer than you need to before you find the correct path.
What he says does have some merit though. Some practice time should be dedicated to creativity, although what he's "discovering" are scales that already exist. He is an expert at phrasing these seemingly random ideas.
Source: I'm a guitar teacher.
@uncleallo
everyone has special abilities
for me kirk has the ability to put a lot of feeling in a few notes...you just feel with it...
i've seen metallica live the first tim in CZ @ a Big 4 Show
and between songs he pulled of a wonderful clean solo...just wonderful
but still...he loves the pedal too much...(even when it's part of his style)
others are better than him...as hole musician, as guitarplayer...
but i think he plays better drums than lars*g*
Yeah umm, no one is ahead of Kirk Hammett. What more does he have to do as a musician? Kirk Hammett fucking rocks, and whoever says otherwise is a hater. For you even to bring him up on this video for any other reason than to praise him as a great guitarist makes just makes you a lame hater. No one is talking about you on any other vids because your a talentless and irrelevent. More love less hate youll feel better trust me.
If a friggian dom scale is what he is playing where does it come from? Ans: D harmonic minor. Play the scale and tell me it's not the sound Marty is getting. He's just starting on different tones (a for the root of the chord he's playing vs D, the scale root but a passing or avoid note against the A sounding harmony. Both descriptions are get the same sound but one is easier to think of when improvising. Just my take. Love to all.
He doesn't say the truth for shit. Scales work in all scenarios and will never limit you; ignorance limits you. Also, it saves you the time of guess and check methods, plus your self made "scales" are limited by what you can come up with where as learning proper theory allows you to use what everyone has come up with. With 2 guitarists of equal skill level, the one with theory will ALWAYS beat the other guy... Perfect example, Paul Gilbert vs Marty Friedman, Paul makes him look like ge doesnt k
@BullgoesforGold355 some aspects of musical theory are deep and psychological, while others are totally arbitrary. there are 12 different keys, but that is only because there are 12 months in a year. It doesn't delve int to semi tones, or quarter tones. the main reason for this is because about 500 years ago, musical theory was invented, and they made it as confusing as possible so "simpletons" couldn't understand it.
Bein there is really only 12 notes on the guitar (obviously different pitches but ultimately 12 notes) I have found it is about impossible this day in age to claim you actually made up your own scale. There are sooooo many variations of sooooo many existing scales I'm willing to bet any combination on any sets of notes already has a name applied to it. Marty seems like a good guy but I doubt he actually invented some kind of "new scale" lol
@Aoimusha412 also, how exactly do you think scales were made in the first place ? they didnt magically appear, some unknown entity certainly didnt teach people how to do it, PEOPLE MADE THEM UP!!!! and they made them probably using this same method, its not about your knowledge of theory, fair enough it helps a shit load but on the other hand i also know some people who are intense at theory but suck balls at practical ability and vice versa
@Aoimusha412 i was rferring to the comment about not making a video if you dont know scales, it wasnt origonally intended as a lesson on scales it was intended as a music style interview showing how HE does things not how everyone else should, do you honestly think id be as stupid as to think that fame had anything to do with practical ability lol, fuck i know plenty of musicians in my NC music class that are better than famous musicians, i simply stated a fact ;)
@spacemanjames omg... People ALWAYS use replies like this and it never helps. Dude, being famous has absolutely NOTHING to do with being good or knowledgable about things. Some guy who shreds but doesn't know theory will easily impress a nonmusically inclined or uneducated crowd. He plays good, but that had nothing to do with how much he KNOWS. if being good had to do with being famous, the johnas
Brothers wouldn't exist...
@karnoch *accidentals..... also saying that a note doesn't belong to a key is incorrect, i think you mean doesn't belong to a scale, and no not all music is based on the structure of scales, most music is based around chord progressions built from keys and then scales are built form those chords, also pay attention he didn't mean it as in making them up on the spot he more meant, if you read a scale in front of you, fair enough you can get it first time and you can practice it over and over