71 years old here.....3 albums that really kicked me in the bollox!! were.....'deep purple in rock'......'Argus''.....and 'Van Halen 1' 3 absolute classics!! These 3 will take some topping.
OMG Ive loved WA music for 50 years. Oh how I wish I'd been in the club for this show. It's so great to hear Argus played so near to perfection. Keep rocking Martin and the band, we need your greatness. Thank you.❤
Mmmmm. Read the comments here. Seen both bands. Both good. These guys are note perfect. They live the music, they don't just play the music. The fact Martin is the main writer of the songs, the original vocalist and a very distinctive bass player is a big factor in the live experience.
As a WA fan since 1970 or thereabouts, I agree entirely. I have no axe to grind in the "great dispute", although I think it was a great shame, and have also seen both bands,. AP is a great technical guitarist but with a limited personality and his band have no real soul _ they seem to be going through the motions when they are playing. Martin's band has more energy, and more feel of the original band and I have always felt, like you say, that his unique bass playing is the cornerstone around which WA became successful, even thought they are known for the harmony guitars first and foremost. Given the choice I would watch Martin's band every time 🤠🤠.
Outstanding work by all the members. Martin still sounds great and the lead guitar work sounds so close to the original that its really amazing!! The harmonies are also spot on. For me it checks all the boxes ~ excellent job.
So, my name really is Andy Powell. I heard Pilgrimage when I was 12, then the iconic Argus. I still have the first four albums in vinyl. Since then, I've listened to the two halves of WA and for sheer accuracy and enjoyment, you guys win hands down. Terrific. Wish I'd been there.
From a guy in a Cornfield in the US.....I've been a fan since Jr High School. I still enjoy WA tunes and Martin as much as when I was a kid. Band does a nice job on the music. It's pretty amazing these songs have held up so well over the decades. I do credit the whole band, every member was very important. I do however personally prefer Martins vocals. I listen to WA when I mow my several acres every week. Makes the time fly and puts a smile on my face, Thanks for the music.
I ve seen both ex Wishbone Ash bands Andy and Martin and I love both😁 I was such a big fan in 1970 when they brought the excellent first album out.🏴🎸🏴
Gibt es denn keinen deutschen Kommentator der diese wunderschöne Musik mal huldigt oder überhaupt noch kennt ?!? Solche Musik ist einzigartig ! Danke fürs hochladen !
Martin Turner und seine Band sind die wahren Ashes, zumindest für mich als Fan der ersten Wishbone Ash Formation ( Martin Turner, Ted Turner, Steve Upton und Andy Powell ) Was nach dieser Ur-Besetzung im Wechsel dabei war, war für mich keine Option. Das reguläre musikalische Erbe, der Sound von Wishbone Ash hat bis heute hat der Gründer dieser famosen Band Martin Turner mit seinen Mitmusikern meiner Meinung nach zelebriert. Die andere Formation um Andy Powell ist für mich eine bessere Cover-Band.
Oh my goodness ... I've not heard these classic Argus songs sound so good for ages. This band reproduces the classic sound so much better than Andy Powell's current incarnation. Bloody well done, Mart and the boys !
For me, Martin Turner's "Wishbone Ash" is THE REAL "Wishbone Ash" Andy Powell wasn't even there at the band's initial inception !! I saw them three times (in London) during the band's heyday & Martin was ALWAYS the lead vocal & bass
Lets see here... Martin hired Andy.. Teddy and Martin taught andy about how to play more than a shuffle and 12 bar blues and how to evolve the playing within a song and how to arrange parts and vocals..
I have had the pleasure of hearing/seeing Danny Wilson play many times over the years (Pokey Hole and elsewhere in the MIdlands) and what a great guitar player and all around good bloke he is. Thanks for posting this. Great sound from Martin and the rest of the band.
The first W.B.A. album I ever heard ‘Argus’s. My elder brother had a huge collection of albums, vinyl as it was in those days. I used to play his stuff when he was out, put Argus on, and I was hooked. I borrowed that album so much, my brother let me keep it. I do agree with many of the comments, over the years I have seen both bands live. Yes, the contractual problems are what they are, but these things happen. Andy Powell (credit where it is due) is an extremely talented guitarist, and I would agree with a comment I saw elsewhere, he does appear to have a limited personality. Martin Turners ex Wishbone Ash does it for me, met these guys on several occasions and they have great personalities. The gigs they perform these days are a far cry from there early years, now they are much smaller and intimate gigs, but I personally prefer it. Looking forward to their next gig, which is local to us. As Martin says, all the time people want to come and hear us play, we shall continue to come out and play. Long will they continue to play.
I think Martins Band is far superior to Mr Powells bunch . Andy is a good guitar player but He is no singer . Saw Martins band at Poole in Dorset. Excellent show .
I've seen one of the Wishbone Ash groups but I couldn't tell you which one. The guitar work here is as good as if not better than the original. As they say,"there's people out there playing Hendrix better than Hendrix could wish to play. This album influenced loads of bands in the 70s,great stuff for it's time.
Not sure who "they" are, but we need to remember Jimi on his own conceived his style from blues and soul 57 yrs ago and while this guitar work is very good it's been copied almost note for note from the originator who actually conceived these guitar parts.
Trying really hard to be okay with Andy. If you read the transcripts of the Wishbone Ash trademark name court trial and if you heard Andy's comments over the past few years then your totally correct. I can't believe the stuff that comes out of Andy's mouth about the old band that Martin wasn't that much of a creative force and blah blah blah pretty pathetic Andy.
She DOES look rather (um) "FIT" doesn't she ? Why oh WHY didn't the cameraman have the intelligence to "pan left" instead of showing us "the right wall"
I feel wishboneash)an honor student of British Rock band! Powell ash and Martin ex ash)both band too I like be which band ! at last more stay Mr.John wettown only number the brave album! this night here stop. see you#again next night. thank you# end-
50years a go Lzeppelingroup DPeerpulgroup 2 big group have popular but I'm student because I have low money．ｔｈｅｎI buyed only w ash album! I special like the pilgrim .alone,and ARGUS album! tonight here stop. see you#again next night! thank you# end-
Interesting comments here for and against Powell and Turner's versions of W. Ash. I've seen Powell's W.A. twice over the years, admittedly about 15 years ago when I thought he had it spot on. Why do some people think he's not so good now, especially as he knows all the guitar work/tones inside out and was, I thought then, a decent higher harmony singer?
Sorry, Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash is by far the better band. I love Andy Powell's guitar playing but he can't sing unfortunately, makes them sound like a covers or karaoke band. Martin Turner's band are fabulous. I was there and the sound of this video doesn't do it justice because it was recorded from the side of the stage. Go and see them you'll be knocked out by how good they are.
Vocals are flat. Do you really think you are going to play the guitar licks better than the original guitarist? I’ve seen APs versions with 3 different lead players. The best best version was with Ben Granfelt.
They sound great but anyone who compares this to the original band is overlooking the fact it’s basically only one original member, so a cover band. My favorite band of all time is Pink Floyd but it’s sad in that most bands from then are fractured into different pieces. In fact Nazareth was still playing without one original member, seriously how can they be called Nazareth.
So is Andy Powell's Wishbone Ash only one original member.. in least there are options to see these amazing songs still performed by members who were on the originals ... I like both bands but would give it to Andy for the more solid sound nowadays...neither are as good as the original ..Steve on drums was a massive part of the original sound that can't be replicated...this drummer just plays a straight 4\4 beat ...Steve is amazing
One major league difference that you (conveniently) overlook.... Andy Powell WAS NOT THERE when Wishbone Ash were originally formed !! In other words, he can never be a true "original member" = BUT MARTIN TURNER WAS !!!!!!!! Compounded by yet another plain simple fact - Martin WAS the lead-vocalist on "ARGUS" Yeah, of course I know that Powell was 'there by then, at that time' but he's still the Johnny Cum Lately And Powell's vocals are $hit by comparison - Fine guitar player, but Powell's vocals are weak & anaemic at best
Sorry guys. It's probably the filming and sound but they sound like an average pub band (except the guitarist) Martins voice too weak on this. I was and still am a big WA fan but this disappoints.
Mark Abrahams is a better guitar player than these dudes. And Andy Powell is one of the best. I will stick with the band that comes down here to Florida. Too bad the guys couldn't figure out how to get along through the years.
71 years old here.....3 albums that really kicked me in the bollox!! were.....'deep purple in rock'......'Argus''.....and 'Van Halen 1'
3 absolute classics!! These 3 will take some topping.
OMG Ive loved WA music for 50 years. Oh how I wish I'd been in the club for this show. It's so great to hear Argus played so near to perfection. Keep rocking Martin and the band, we need your greatness. Thank you.❤
Mmmmm. Read the comments here. Seen both bands. Both good. These guys are note perfect. They live the music, they don't just play the music. The fact Martin is the main writer of the songs, the original vocalist and a very distinctive bass player is a big factor in the live experience.
As a WA fan since 1970 or thereabouts, I agree entirely. I have no axe to grind in the "great dispute", although I think it was a great shame, and have also seen both bands,. AP is a great technical guitarist but with a limited personality and his band have no real soul _ they seem to be going through the motions when they are playing. Martin's band has more energy, and more feel of the original band and I have always felt, like you say, that his unique bass playing is the cornerstone around which WA became successful, even thought they are known for the harmony guitars first and foremost. Given the choice I would watch Martin's band every time 🤠🤠.
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So would I. And it should not be forgotten the major role that Ted Turner took in shaping the brilliant 'Argus' album.
@@keithf_ Ted was and is great, and probably the best of all the guitarists ever to grace the Ash
@@otheelitegallery9700 Agree to a point. Love Ted's voice and playing. However, I really think Laurie Wisefield's playing upped the ante quite a bit.
I'm going to share this video I might even upload it to
Outstanding work by all the members. Martin still sounds great and the lead guitar work sounds so close to the original that its really amazing!! The harmonies are also spot on. For me it checks all the boxes ~ excellent job.
So, my name really is Andy Powell. I heard Pilgrimage when I was 12, then the iconic Argus. I still have the first four albums in vinyl. Since then, I've listened to the two halves of WA and for sheer accuracy and enjoyment, you guys win hands down. Terrific. Wish I'd been there.
From a guy in a Cornfield in the US.....I've been a fan since Jr High School. I still enjoy WA tunes and Martin as much as when I was a kid. Band does a nice job on the music. It's pretty amazing these songs have held up so well over the decades. I do credit the whole band, every member was very important. I do however personally prefer Martins vocals. I listen to WA when I mow my several acres every week. Makes the time fly and puts a smile on my face, Thanks for the music.
Bloody hell Martin has still got it - what a class act. Makes it all look effortless.
I ve seen both ex Wishbone Ash bands Andy and Martin and I love both😁 I was such a big fan in 1970 when they brought the excellent first album out.🏴🎸🏴
Yes, the first one doesn't get enough credit, it took twin guitars to another level!
Gibt es denn keinen deutschen Kommentator der diese wunderschöne Musik mal huldigt oder überhaupt noch kennt ?!? Solche Musik ist einzigartig ! Danke fürs hochladen !
Selbstverstandlich!
Martin Turner und seine Band sind die wahren Ashes, zumindest für mich als Fan der ersten Wishbone Ash Formation ( Martin Turner, Ted Turner, Steve Upton und Andy Powell )
Was nach dieser Ur-Besetzung im Wechsel dabei war, war für mich keine Option.
Das reguläre musikalische Erbe, der Sound von Wishbone Ash hat bis heute hat der Gründer dieser famosen Band Martin Turner mit seinen Mitmusikern meiner Meinung nach zelebriert.
Die andere Formation um Andy Powell ist für mich eine bessere Cover-Band.
Live Dates ist das Kultalbum und gleichzeitig eines der besten Livalben aller Zeiten!
All Hail from Tehran IRAN
IRAN LOVES ASH
thank you , all hail back to you to Iran
Martin Turner is the world's greatest living bass player.
Martin and his band sounds really amazing!!! 🔥
Oh my goodness ... I've not heard these classic Argus songs sound so good for ages. This band reproduces the classic sound so much better than Andy Powell's current incarnation.
Bloody well done, Mart and the boys !
For me, Martin Turner's "Wishbone Ash" is THE REAL "Wishbone Ash"
Andy Powell wasn't even there at the band's initial inception !!
I saw them three times (in London) during the band's heyday & Martin was ALWAYS the lead vocal & bass
Andy Powell's band is brilliant...and in tune!
@@roberthowden6428 and much tighter which is the hallmark of WA. Martin Turner has a better voice though.
Lets see here... Martin hired Andy.. Teddy and Martin taught andy about how to play more than a shuffle and 12 bar blues and how to evolve the playing within a song and how to arrange parts and vocals..
Love this! I used to listen to this and other Wishbone albums when I was in my teens. Miss this music.
Excellent. That dude nailed the solos
Guitarist nearest to the camera stole the show,Bravo sir!
Thought the same when I saw them, bit of a hunk too can’t lie
I have had the pleasure of hearing/seeing Danny Wilson play many times over the years (Pokey Hole and elsewhere in the MIdlands) and what a great guitar player and all around good bloke he is. Thanks for posting this. Great sound from Martin and the rest of the band.
That Japanese girl calling out Martin's name at the back of the Portland Paramount was my wife, may she rest in peace.
The first W.B.A. album I ever heard ‘Argus’s. My elder brother had a huge collection of albums, vinyl as it was in those days. I used to play his stuff when he was out, put Argus on, and I was hooked. I borrowed that album so much, my brother let me keep it. I do agree with many of the comments, over the years I have seen both bands live. Yes, the contractual problems are what they are, but these things happen. Andy Powell (credit where it is due) is an extremely talented guitarist, and I would agree with a comment I saw elsewhere, he does appear to have a limited personality. Martin Turners ex Wishbone Ash does it for me, met these guys on several occasions and they have great personalities. The gigs they perform these days are a far cry from there early years, now they are much smaller and intimate gigs, but I personally prefer it. Looking forward to their next gig, which is local to us. As Martin says, all the time people want to come and hear us play, we shall continue to come out and play. Long will they continue to play.
Good Old Leicester Lad Danny playing some great Geetar work. Fantastic. :-)
Loved the WISHBONE ASH SOUND!! GREAT JOB!!!
Very, very, very good! Thank you Kumiai Cho! Great to hear these songs again played and sung so very well.
Argus is my fav WA album but my fav song is Persephone
Saw Martin in the mid 2000s when he played support for Golden Earring at the Shepherds Bush Empire, great gig, tight band... 👍👏😻
Talk about a ‘70 sound, I just need the Moonshine and my wrecked bicycle. Excellent
Sublime. Incomparable. I'm a big Runrig fan, the best of Scottish folk-rock. This is the best of English fol-rock, IMHO.
I was just listening to Argus the other day for the first time in ages and thinking how good it is. This was lovely. Cheers.
first time. i saw them in 1970 and i STILL have multiples every time i hear this genius music.
Absolutely amazing😯 and a perfect guitar master class👍
It's become music for baby boomers , unfortunately ! . . .
Brilliant !!!!!!!!!
Great tones.
Very authentic.
素晴らしいベースシスト♪︎大好きです♪︎
It's astounding guitar playing.
Superb.
so much thanx for uploading kumiai cho ! cho !!
Loved it it's fabulous track memories 😌
Thanks for posting this. Great memories of my trip to the UK. Had a great time at the gig.
Seen Martin around thirty times since Wishbone Ash Played Reading Festival in 1975, never failed to put on a great show.
I was there for that, they turned the lights off cos they went over the stop time, I think
Forget Powell’Far superior Ash 🎼🇬🇧
Saw Wishbone Ash Play Mansion House Bar Waterford Great gig Joss O Brien Waterford Ireland
Love it even if Martin voice is not as clear as it was. Great
What do You expect at his age ?
Awesome guys....go Danny :)
Incroyable !!!!!!!!
Still rocking like the star he is! Keep it up Martin you are Wishbone Ash Thanks
Great!! I am happy, I will see them in one week on their German tour.
I will give you more information.
stupendous!
deff best WH out there
Great!
Great, hope they world tour soon
Awesome playing
I think Martins Band is far superior to Mr Powells bunch . Andy is a good guitar player but He is no singer . Saw Martins band at Poole in Dorset. Excellent show .
Yeah! I miss Ted and Upton - but still authentic! Martin is the heir!
He was one of the three original singers.
BTW my fav track off Argus is Warrior. Just thought I'd mention it
I've seen one of the Wishbone Ash groups but I couldn't tell you which one. The guitar work here is as good as if not better than the original. As they say,"there's people out there playing Hendrix better than Hendrix could wish to play. This album influenced loads of bands in the 70s,great stuff for it's time.
Not sure who "they" are, but we need to remember Jimi on his own conceived his style from blues and soul 57 yrs ago and while this guitar work is very good it's been copied almost note for note from the originator who actually conceived these guitar parts.
Thanks for that … fab !
Makes Mr Powell's WA look like a wet lettuce. This is so much more authentic.
I agree !
You’re having a laugh, Andy’s band is way superior.
Both equally authentic.......and equally false.
Na, think your getting carried away in the moment. They’re good, but Andy’s line up with Mark Abraham is definitely no wet lettuce !
Trying really hard to be okay with Andy. If you read the transcripts of the Wishbone Ash trademark name court trial and if you heard Andy's comments over the past few years then your totally correct. I can't believe the stuff that comes out of Andy's mouth about the old band that Martin wasn't that much of a creative force and blah blah blah pretty pathetic Andy.
The chick at the ramp - is that a groupie?
Man Martin?!
She DOES look rather (um) "FIT" doesn't she ?
Why oh WHY didn't the cameraman have the intelligence to "pan left" instead of showing us "the right wall"
Both bands are great. Just the singing that lets them down. But given their age it's not surprising. Brilliant musicians though.❤
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Des deux Ash qu,il existe je pense que celui de Martin est le mieux
Martin Turner's WA is good. I only know Andy Powell's WA. I am surprised of the sound.
Needs a little work on the vocal harmonies...but hey ARGUS IS ARGUS..BRILLIANT stuff
unfortunately they won't be coming to Germany this Year
But at the beginning of 2023, to Tübingen, Konstanz, Karlsruhe, Nürnberg. See it on the WA-side.
@@renateholobek it's Wishbone Ash not Martin Turner 's Wishbone Ash
@@MrExuma1 that's right. It's Andy's WA.
Saw AP's Wishbone Ash 3 weeks ago on the live dates tour. It was awsom.
Couldn't use the same words for this performance by MT's band.
they sound great...,need me on drums though
46:50 Chat, chat, chatter. Shut up and listen, you clods.
Ya mon
懐かしいと感じがするが
時を経て 斬新なアレンジ
とも いえるのでは ないか?
I feel wishboneash)an honor student of British Rock band! Powell ash and
Martin ex ash)both band too I like be which band !
at last more stay Mr.John
wettown only number the
brave album!
this night here stop.
see you#again next night.
thank you#
end-
50years a go
Lzeppelingroup
DPeerpulgroup
2 big group have popular but I'm student because I have low money．ｔｈｅｎI buyed only w
ash album! I special
like the pilgrim .alone,and ARGUS album!
tonight here stop.
see you#again next night!
thank you#
end-
Interesting comments here for and against Powell and Turner's versions of W. Ash. I've seen Powell's W.A. twice over the years, admittedly about 15 years ago when I thought he had it spot on. Why do some people think he's not so good now, especially as he knows all the guitar work/tones inside out and was, I thought then, a decent higher harmony singer?
Sorry, Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash is by far the better band. I love Andy Powell's guitar playing but he can't sing unfortunately, makes them sound like a covers or karaoke band. Martin Turner's band are fabulous. I was there and the sound of this video doesn't do it justice because it was recorded from the side of the stage. Go and see them you'll be knocked out by how good they are.
@@clivejohnson1680 = Your initial statement (sentence) sums it all up, succinctly !!
Beautiful guitarwork, but the singing is unfortunately not so good
LMAO !!!
Not a patch on the real WA that’s Andy Powell and crew
Vocals are flat. Do you really think you are going to play the guitar licks better than the original guitarist? I’ve seen APs versions with 3 different lead players. The best best version was with Ben Granfelt.
Not a patch on the original and best. His ego is the size of a small planet
Martin ex wishbone Ash band are not a patch on Andys real Wishbone Ash
They sound great but anyone who compares this to the original band is overlooking the fact it’s basically only one original member, so a cover band. My favorite band of all time is Pink Floyd but it’s sad in that most bands from then are fractured into different pieces. In fact Nazareth was still playing without one original member, seriously how can they be called Nazareth.
So is Andy Powell's Wishbone Ash only one original member.. in least there are options to see these amazing songs still performed by members who were on the originals ... I like both bands but would give it to Andy for the more solid sound nowadays...neither are as good as the original ..Steve on drums was a massive part of the original sound that can't be replicated...this drummer just plays a straight 4\4 beat ...Steve is amazing
One major league difference that you (conveniently) overlook....
Andy Powell WAS NOT THERE when Wishbone Ash were originally formed !!
In other words, he can never be a true "original member" = BUT MARTIN TURNER WAS !!!!!!!!
Compounded by yet another plain simple fact - Martin WAS the lead-vocalist on "ARGUS"
Yeah, of course I know that Powell was 'there by then, at that time' but he's still the Johnny Cum Lately
And Powell's vocals are $hit by comparison - Fine guitar player, but Powell's vocals are weak & anaemic at best
Sorry guys. It's probably the filming and sound but they sound like an average pub band (except the guitarist) Martins voice too weak on this. I was and still am a big WA fan but this disappoints.
ouch ...
Very amateurish compared to Andy’s band
Vocals aren't very good
Mark Abrahams is a better guitar player than these dudes. And Andy Powell is one of the best. I will stick with the band that comes down here to Florida. Too bad the guys couldn't figure out how to get along through the years.