Jungleman FIRES SHOTS At Isildur and PokerStars! HUGE Games In Asia With Phil Ivey And Tom Dwan
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2017
- Dan Cates joins the channel today to talk about the upcoming KOTH tournament, high stakes, and more!
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Subscribe for more wsop vlog, news, comedy, and hand breakdowns. Poker Hands is the show where Doug analyzes live poker hands from tv poker shows such as Poker After Dark, EPT (European Poker Tour), High Stakes Poker, the World Series of Poker (WSOP), the Aussie Millions, WPT (World Poker Tour) the Big One For One Drop, and the PCA (Pokerstars Carribean Adventure). He especially enjoys reviewing hands by popular high stakes pros like Daniel Negreanu, Phil Ivey, Viktor "Isildur" Blom, Fedor Holz, Ike Haxton, Phil Hellmuth, and Dan Cates (Jungleman).
TIMESTAMPS
0:19 What Daniel has been up to lately
2:22 Daniel speaks a 2nd language
3:25 Why did Daniel started to learn it
5:04 Funny Story about Chinese players
07:12 What is short deck holdem?
09:08 And why is this game an "ultimate tilt"
09:35 Mistakes people make in this game
11:50 About Big Bet Mix at the Aria
15:28 About games in the Bobby´s Room
18:45 About players get angry at dealers
19:38 Best and worst game of Daniel besides NL and PLO
21:58 About King of the Hill
25:20 How people sometimes play in live settings
28:50 "Jungle tricks" in 2-7
31:30 About Isildur
33:50 Another funny story from Jungleman
36:31 Dougs unfortunate sessions from 2014?
38:30 about playing vs Isildur
43:15 How does Jungleman tilt, but still playing well?
46:30 Future of Isildur and online poker at high stakes
50:45 About Scot Seiver
53:00 Seiver vs Jungle. Who angled who?
55:20 Tom Dwan and the Durrrr challenge
1:02:20 About prop bets on the Durrrr challenge
1:05:00 Tom Dwan´s skill in NL
1:11:00 About bots, solvers etc. in sngs 1:17:46 F**k pokerstars?
1:20:16 Future of online poker
1:23:50 about big bet games
1:26:55 About the Change of NL and PLO on Stars in 8game to 40bb CAP; other limit games and mixed games
1:33:55 Other Jungleman´s gambling addictions then poker 1:36:50 About Otb Red Baron and other Top cash game regs 1:42:20 Big games scene in Asia (Manila, Hong-Kong etc.)
1:47:00 Most money Jungleman seen someone win/loose in a session
1:50:40 About Hero calling and running bluffs
Jungle looks like he's staying in Dwan's dungeon.
Haha, all he needs is a laptop and internet connection. He's on that degen poker life
As a cash player, this was my favourite ever pod. Specifically because of the insight into the highest stakes private games - good job Doug!
TIMESTAMPS
(0:00) Intro Dan 'Jungleman' Cates, Jungle's Macau & Manila poker activities, Phil Ivey & Tom Dwan sightings
(2:20) Jungle shows off his Chinese skills
(4:09) Wang "Shanghai" Wong and Qin "The Chairman" Si Xin
(7:12) Short-deck Hold'em explanation, strategy & equities
(10:54) New variants are good for high stakes games
(11:50) Doug and Jungleman's experiences with big bet mixed games at ARIA
(13:06) $10k PLO flips, side bets & Matt Kirk shout-out
(15:29) Bobby's Room vs. ARIA -- Gus Hansen, David Oppenheim cross-booking
(17:22) Doug shares story about David Oppenheim
(18:14) New setup requests, people who get mad at dealers
(19:40) Jungle's best and worst other games - Stud Hi is the "Wild West"
(22:01) King of The Hill, Dan Cates vs. Frank Kassela semifinal match
(31:48) Viktor Blom (Isildur1) "crushing it" on Stars lately, battling vs. Raul Gonzalez
(33:41) Discussion about high stakes player "wilhasha"
(38:37) Back to Viktor "Isildur1" Blom
(42:30) Jungleman missed flush draws tilt story, Cates doesn't alter his play
(44:47) Jungleman "no throwing things" prop bet with Phil Galfond
(46:28) Jungleman expresses personal "Isildur1" shortcake craving & horrible high-stakes games at Stars
(50:40) Is Scott Seiver really Dan Cates' soulmate? Jungle relives history between the two.
(55:06) Tom Dwan discussion begins, Dwan has paid between $700k-$800k in penalties to Jungleman
(1:02:31) "Durrrr Challenge" side bets, collateral damage
(1:03:26) Doug and Jungle flirt with potential prop bet, share past weight-loss bet
(1:05:04) Is Tom Dwan still a HU NLHE beast?
(1:07:21) Does Jungle believe Tom Dwan has been fair throughout the process?
(1:10:14) Polkerphilosophy... Will Jungle let this go on indefinitely? Talk of settlement if inaction continues.
(1:11:07) Live assistance software and bots in poker, botting on PokerStars
(1:12:23) Jungleman vs. AI, Pocket 7s META hand
(1:13:35) Screen names that Cates has been told are using live assistance software (bots)
(1:16:02) PokerStars high stakes games punish non-cheaters
(1:17:47) If you want to make money at the tables, PokerStars isn't the place. OMG Chests!
(1:20:15) Jungle says online poker still has a future for profitable players
(1:21:52) Should new variants of poker be embraced more? N00BS Full House
(1:51:07) High stakes bluffing, scared money
(1:55:25) Wrap-up, follow Dan Cates on Twitter @JunglemanDan -- Frank Kassela Thursday
So fast
Thanks pal
You the real mvp
what are 'sims', joey?`
Ty you are commited
Amazing Pod Doug. I thought the one yesterday was the nuts but this one tops it. Epic great work.
Jungle came off great in this interview, I got a lot of respect for the guy. He was quite respectful in a lot of spot as he cant reveal certain info. He seems like a funny guy too.
Ahah super hype intro from Doug - response from Jungle ''Hi.'' :-P
55:30 dwan challenge discussion starts
thanks.
This is so interesting. Thank you so much for posting this. Superb . Jungleman is truly great.
Great podcast! I'm a fan of the both of you, so this was amazing haha.
The best! The stories, the bets, the hands. Bobbys room, aria, Asia. Please, please get him back and talk high stakes online/live for another 2 hours some day!
Dan seems like a real sweet and genuine person. Thanks for posting.
Yes he is, I've met him, he's really great and has such a deep knowledge of Poker.
He sure does. And another great interview from Doug.
Dan "I have some top secret information I can't reveal " Cates.
Dwan paying 700,000 in late fees is pretty damn important information. How we are just finding out about this now is crazy.
Hopefully we get to see Jungle & Durrrrr reunited on upcoming Poker After Dark episodes ;)
Papi, any chance we will see Jamie Gold on the podcast?
yeah yeah yeah just become a coach or something #papisucksnow
yeah I hope durr decides to stop playing 20mil pots to play for a few thousand viewer's nostalgia
joeingram1 I would luv to see that Joe,yeah
jakewilliam15 I kinda have the feeling that this HS game when u play with 2,5,or 10 mln has to do with gambling,because with this kind of money people start acting greedy and weird..so on that level gotta be gambling
That might be the best poker interview I've ever watched. Well done. Also just wanted to say, I bought your post flop engine last week. Super helpful. I m just a micro donk so take it for what it's worth but it's been super helpful with post flop decisions. By helpful, I mean profitable. 😀
Jungle you are the best, love when you say "can't say some things" xD respect for being so honest, so transparent. Peace
Just wow. Jungle is an absolute boss. Great podcast so much gold in this
These are really great vids Doug.
Very interesting listening to insiders.
Get more infor from China big Games!
Thanks for the comment! Much appreciated!
Jungle is my spirit animal... gambling for huge swings and he is streaming from what looks like a terrible hotel because he is a huge life nit just not a poker nit.
Daniel can you tell us about the abandoned space station you're broadcasting from?
I heard that "The Accountant" starring Ben Affleck was loosely based on Jungleman's various beefs
Hey Doug, have you thought about calling these podcasts -- The Polker Life podcast???
U cool with doug moving in on ur territory?
It is def GTO for me, I think it helps spread awareness to how good podcasts can be and gets more people interested/used to listening to longer form discussions that are poker related. I imagine a large number of people will never check out any of my podcasts because they are so fucking long (I'm the same way with other podcasts.)
joeingram1 facts haha but ull always be the og of poker podcasts
joeingram1 dont pretend you know what GTO means
Joe what are the chances of you getting Isildur on your podcast?
1:17:45 - BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! Can't disagree
Before starting this I gave myself an 8% chance of watching it all but I really enjoyed it and viewed the entire video. I understand Jungle can't talk specifics about the big private games he plays but just getting a glimpse into that world gives me hope that in 15-20 years there will be a Narcos like Netflix series about it.
Looks like we binked a gutter!
John Yahnig - I had much the same experience except that I had only given myself a 7.5% chance of sticking it out. ;-) But why should we have to wait THAT long for the Neflix series?
Seriously though, John, how did you ever come up with 8%?
Jungle just seems like the nicest bloke ever.
In mixed games asking for new setups is crucial in games featuring a lot of hi-lo and lowball, low cards frequently are 'accidentally' bent or scratched as players squeeze out draw. Very common in WSOP side games.
Love the time stamps!
Doug i love you man . It's been 7 years!! Lmaooo
Jungleman's place and webcam looks like his been taking shots at $0.25/0.50 lately
What is the name of the app which tracks live poker results, which is he talking about?
Great pod !!!
Amazing glimpse into the world of the high stakes player. Also enjoyed PH the fascinating megalomaniac and the Tonkaaa Tournament grinder. Looking forward to watching final interview with FK the old school pro. Please ignore the weird haters, this stuff is terrific to watch. Thank you. Love Ya
Things must be tough for jungleman, hope he can move out of that hospital basement soon
I'm dying lol
"hospital basement"
He wanted to see Tom so Phua locked him in the basement with him
Bob Mob lmao 😂 that's fucked up
But for real, how does a high roller crash at a place like that?
Mike Fuller if there cheap fucks which most poker players are yeah
1:36:50 is the best part in the video. I love Jungle and his sims detector hahaha.
Interesting interview dp, I'm fascinated by watching him think on his feet
What a poker mind......thanks Doug and Dan
Great video, just a quick question regarding the part where he says limping pocket sevens according to the sims is a good play even though its counter intuitive in the situation he was describing. Can you please elaborate as I'm not fully up to date on poker and don't know much in the difference between how a simulation plays vs just regular pro strategy? Thanks for all your hard work keep it up.
I think hearing someone call for a setup is the best thing ever
Doug, any chance you can make podcasts out of these and put it on iTunes?
Jungleman is podcast gold
wow sick, Jungleman uses a LEGO Mindstorms camera
Gotta love jungle, so hilarious! :D
The weird and awkward people are usually the most talented. Talk shit on jungle all you want. He is one of the most feared players of poker at this time.
Yes he is mumbling because his brain is constantly reanalysing so it's hard for him to say stuff before he has to revise it with some extra info or a different angle on things
He honestly might be the best heads up player ever.
Jungle's nonchalance over the Durrrr challenge is hilarious :)
He's so mysterious and interesting. I hope one of these Macau players writes a tell all someday.
Jungleman looks like Harvey Keitel on quaaludes
Are we going to be able to watch the King of the Hill tournament on Poker GO?
God damn this guys brain fires in different ways
ipoker has something similar like shortdeck its just with SB and BB called 6+ where 2-5 also out of deck
Can anybody tell me what Cates sims is using ? I cant seem to understand
Wow, what an interesting podcast. Thank you. I love his insight. Especially compared to last night's douch Hellmuth, who only can talk about himself and how great he is.
GUys, can anyone tell me plz, what program do they use for video chat? is it skype? thnx
I remember watching isildur before black Friday on full tilt. Just the blinds were a years pay, shit was crazy.
If the blinds are a year's pay, you're beyond broke. The biggest bb on full tilt was 1k.
@@rg7535 They played with 9k blinds a few times.
what's the name of the poker sim that jungle talkes about at 1:41:07? I didn't quite catch the name of it.
piosolver
its 08/2019, did the challenge finish?
Love Jungle. That's my dude!
The insider information definitely possibly maybe about RIO poker?
I love how passionate Jungle is about poker even after playing it for so many years
44:47 LOL "bet with galfond"
What is the site Dan mentions after the 19:38 section?
lol @ 1:46:30 guy plays for tens of millions against the triads and her gf still rags him for a 2hr chat with an old buddy
Short deck is 6plus holdem , and has been on iPoker for about 2yeara
You can tell junglemans mind is going 100 miles a minute. Even for simple questions
Not particularly, you've just noticed the IQ gap between the two of you which doesn't apply to everyone viewing the video.
@@EverDayBest what kind of dumbass comment is that!? My IQ is well above average and I agree. He's a terrible conversationalist. I'll give him a pass because he sounds tired possibly. But your attempt at an insult is weak as hell. Cates isn't being articulate. I have no problem keeping up with Cates but it isn't enjoyable to listen to when someone is all over the place, which he is...
@@EverDayBest nobhead
Interesting about how T9 is in some ways better than AK in short decked because of all the straights. If you added wraparound straights to regular holdem that would increase equity and also make AK a lot more exciting. (wraparound would make, for example, KA234 a straight)
When Cates giggles I just have to smile
This video is such a tease -
'i know this stuff but I can't tell you!'
SO frustrating!
We want to know.
Doug, it would be great if you did a video on what Short Deck is, how the strategy changes, and a little more about the big games? Mny Thks
Never gets old.
But if Isildur1 is playing the best day in day out that in it self will make him.better. Great Competition makes you better. As a Swede im super proud of the dude. Like people have always said since he came up "He will not be able to keep it up" and here we are several years later and he is still crushing.
Avan Kordi 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪👍
Avan Kordi actually he's sponsored now and playing someone else's money. He lost his own moons ago
Can someone make a few highlight clips of this like people do for Joe Rogans podcasts? Please and thanks
Not sure if he is just being tame for the camera, but Jungle seems to be giving Dwan a lot of respect in reference to the durrrr challenge
Doug, keep this shit up. These are fucking awesome.
People ripping into jungle for almost no reason. Sad how many jealous listeners are out there. This and the Hellmuth blog were extremely interesting to anyone who actually follows poker. Keep up the good work Doug!
Doug's Oppenheim story is the funniest at around 18:00
Has the Dwan/Jungle game been finished?
nice to hear something about the mysterious world of HS chinese games
Tha picture with him next to helmuth in the back is fuckin AMAZING!
finally somebody talking about the "skill" of live players :D
@jungleman now that poker looks banned in aus can u reccommend these unnamed sites to play on? great insight guys
" ...And that was the Scott Seiver and Jungle...Jungle,uhh,tale of... whatever." I fucking love this guy.
Cool Doug. I like jungle, funny guy
Jungleman is a cyborg
i think we will play some hands in the near future - Dan cates poker smart, not much else
great giggle tho
i literally love jungle
Doug is interviewing HS regs, and Joey is doing hand analysis. What is going on?
Its been 3 years and the challenge has still not finished haha
Any chance you can put time stamps in the description?
jeez luke used to watch you brid lol, you still play rs? play lots of poker?
Can anyone explain or link what short deck hold em is?
Nvm found it, deuce through 5 are removed.
Why are you guys so hateful to Jungle, I feel like he's really honest and concise with his responses.
I really want to play in the big game just so I can slow roll 'The Chairman' with a monster
what is the sim software he keeps mentioning? Pyro?
Found it: PIO
Some timestamps for this pods pls?
Alex E Here you go:
0:00 Start
1:56:40 End
You're welcome!
You sir are good at answering questions :)
Dan Cates interview /170810
Doug, I have to say your interview chops are becoming quite impressive. You really seem prepared and have great Qs. We learn something about the player, his background, psyche and motivations; plus some great "inside baseball" stories that poker fans enjoy hearing.
The Dwan story alone was revealing and sets right shade he's taken for years by the poker community commenting without real knowledge of this infamous saga. Turns out Dwan wasn't the villain he was portrayed to be. Frankly, IMO, Dan Cates is somewhat responsible and should've spoken up long ago. But the point is you got him to do it.
You have an engaging, energetic interview style that will take you far and you clearly have a broadcast future in poker - if you want it.
The PHelmuth interview was the absolute BEST anyone has ever done with him (that I've seen) and, once you got past his massive ego, he revealed himself as a man fully understanding and thankful for his fortune in life and not solely what his "Poker Brat" rep suggests. Excellent job.
Kudos overall on these interviews. They're certainly a highlight of your channel content and IMHO the best player interviews I've heard in any podcasts.
Can you bring isildur or dwan to the podcast?
Nice RUclips channel buddy. Whose your favorite non-Poker RUclipsr?
Pot limit super stud sounds really crazy
When do they talk about isildur?
Classic Jungle; "Yeah, my girlfriend's complaining but um um."
Jungleman sounds exactly like the old MTV Beavis and Butthead cartoon.
Jungle is so rad.
i love this
hi Doug, do you think all this '' cant make money on stars for a living'' also applies to low/midstake MTTs?
no thats not it at all. you cant beat the rake at highstake games thats why they are saying it. but im not sure if this goes for MTTs at mid/low stakes aswell. its true that stars is literally the single worst poker site there is, everything they got going for themselves is the software and the promotion they do in TV and stuff.