I saw the hand Nr. 2 live. Isildur insta check raised the turn, Ivey snap-called. Isil insta pots the river and Ivey snap-called. So it literally took 5 seconds for the pot to go from 50k to over a mill :D
One thing I didn't hear you talk about in discussion of their preflop strategy is the context of the game. A lot of these matches were always open - 3 bet, so a raise not really being a raise until the 4th bet. Obviously not all of them played that way but a lot of them did. Small point but, I just thought about it when you went over the first hand and questioned him 3 betting a single suited gapper.
Doug Great video please consider: Isildur top 5 NL pots Isildur VS Durrr top 5 pots Patrick Vs Durrr top 5 pots You vs Sauce top 5 pots TV Cash Games top 5 pots You're 5th-10th highest pots Nice One....
Hi, you said at the end of vid you will ever see hands as big as these. How come you think that? I would of thought they will just keep growing due to more and more cash on these sites? great vid tho ty :)
Doug Polk Poker You should have atleast 10 mill subscribers,but it will Come with all your vids,which I have to thumbs up every video since Im beginning to watch vids ive already seen,since you got so many.Thats something I gotta respect.since none are bad or boring.stay cool Doug ...Hope your biggest win Comes soon.so these pots will be like yours
Some guy in the chat commenting on the biggest pot said this: Ship a Yacht. Which is hilarous and quite true. Fucking OnePointFourMillion dollars. This shit was the crazy. Too bad Doug had to settle with shipping a Lambo
Hey Doug, I was wondering about Patrik's turn bet size in the first hand. He pot bets his overpair and nut flush draw and your concensus is that it is ok, but you wouldn't like it if Isildur check/jammed on you. This sounds logical. However, in Holdem you often talk about balancing your range. I think that if Patrik would have a flopped set (most likely 22xx or 44xx), he would often use the pot betsizing on the turn to charge hands like KKxx with a flushdraw or some combodraws and to deny him from realising his (probably substantial) equity cheaply. In order to have a balanced range he has to add some other non set holdings to the mix, to let Isildur1 make mistakes with the hands like he had this hand. Isn't ATT3cc the perfect hand to add to this range, together with maybe some combidraws? I agree that an Isildur shove will suck, but you also have to aknowledge that there are very few holdings Isildur is able to shove here. Isildur was playing so agressive this session that you have to assume that he would threebet most of his premium holdings on the flop, so he has no sets and strong two pair combo's in his range. This means his flop call either meant that he was drawing himself to a straight/flush or had the kind of rundown with top pair/straight draw combination he had now. The 7 only helps a few rundowns in his range which now hit two pair, but most of his range misses and maybe picks up some more equity. Conclusion: I don't think Patrik had a choice in betsizing and probably has to bet pot on the turn, because of balancing, protecting possibly the best hand, and possibly setting himself up for a pot-river shove.
great analysis! Could you talk one day about ZOOM cash? Like one video of the main differences with regular cash games. Or one stream so then you can do a summary video. Thank you from Spain!
I believe we will have pots like this again, if not bigger. When online poker is legalised in the US, it will be like a tsunami of action. I can't wait.
quoted from your site "Doug has played games his whole life. His parents always taught him to think and decide for himself. Dedicated to success, so I would picks something and focuses his energy to make it happen." you're welcome
btw who was the biggest crusher in those 6-7 figure pot size days? Antonius since he won like 15mil on-line or did he just fed of isildur and some other crazy guys?
Antonius, Ivey, Dwan, The Dang Brothers, Phil Galfond. All of them made a shitload of Guy Laliberte, he lost like almost $30 million across 5 screen names.
Lol what was he doing on hand #2? If I decide to pot the turn and get raised I would flat then jam if the board pairs or the flush comes in, in addition to the wrap coming in. Not re jam lmao
PLO for me is the best poker game, although many people avoid it, and that's because: 1) You can win more money for less time in average which leaves you more time off computer (compared to NLTH or other forms of poker) 2) Rakeback on the same level as NL is much higher because pots are bigger 3) A good player doesn't have to think that much playing PLO compared to NL, its easier game, so you can stay focused much longer. Plus, 4) if you can't afford or just don't like(like me) using HUD, in PLO it just doesn't matter that much even when you are multitabling higher number of tables. It really is "the great game" of PLO !
Few questions about the biggest pot. Firstly, Isildur1 starts with ~$678,000 so how does the pot get to ~$1,448,000 that confuses me. Also, when the money goes in Isildur is all in but his stack resets to ~$181,000, what's with that? The way I see it they start with ~$1,936,000 on the table and end with ~$1,846,000, something is weird with this, Isildur should have $0 chips as Patrik has him covered and Patrik should have ~$1,936,000 minus rake?
Swaghetti Yolonese I was looking for an explanation on the last hand (biggest pot) . Your comment helped explain why Antonius and not Isildur won. Thanks
Why won't pots like this happen again ( you mentioned that at the end of your video ). I just got into poker a few months ago therefore I don't really know the history of online poker.
Doug Polk Poker also they were backed by full tilt handing out millions to play so of course it was easy back then to play high stakes. Nowadays these guys aren't even around because they can't afford it. Way better players out there who play with their own money!
Don't think that is the case here in these games, because all of the hands make somewhat sent to 3b/4b. I do remember Isildur playing in mandatory 3b games though.
at 12:00 you mention patrik is lucky to not run into a set, but given its HU and he has top 2, doesn't patrik know that it is way less likely that isildur has a set? therefore getting it good
Finally caught Doug making a mistake on a hand analysis. On first pot he says Patrik has gutter to the nuts on the flop. I know I know... Negates everything else Doug has ever done for the game.
It’s a fold on the flop for Isildur 100% of the time when he gets 3 bet. Crazy how bad some of these guys were back in the day. Meanwhile, he wins an 800k pot. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. Same deal in 2nd hand. Such an action turn card on the 2nd hand. Brutal river. Can’t imagine running as good as he did and end up broke, but I’m also not a lunatic and never would have had a chance to get there in most of these hands.
Except... people don't get their money back from Ponzi schemes. The owners were definitely stealing from the players, but everyone was made whole eventually. The Americans had to wait a while, but (apart from the people who sold off their bankrolls for cents on the dollar) nobody ended up losing money.
Played plo recently, 1-2.. what a crazy game.. next time i play, definitely gonna be in the morning and not at 4am after long night of texas and drinking ect., i did break even but.. could have easily given it all away.. this is just outrageous.. a million in one pot.. a million dollars.. thats some james bond sh*t lol
Zegner no man -- not a straight. of the four cards you are dealt, you only can play two of them. so he had 45 from the board and 67, as again, he can only play two cards from his hand. i would not have bet kk like that, he's blocking his own straight by having a 3 and isildur could have very easily had two pair, i guess patrick does have a pretty monster hand, i try playing a hand like patrick does and i get busted every time. got A-high flush today and someone rivered a straight flush. good times .. and folded 10 J hearts in a different hand before the flop, then end up getting Royal Flush. #^^_=#$^&_$'c!!!!!!! lol
Imbicil is definitely 1 way too agressive and lucky dude! Glad see Antonius rake instead sucked out. Would been great to see Doug stacking Isdr instead of commentating. Nice upload.
Why don't you think pots like this will ever happen online again? personally I don't think current online players realize that the games simply don't run as big as they did pre 2009 due to economic collapses and less to do with anything that has happened with poker directly. the biggest games online were happening during the housing boom and absurd credit lines people were getting that left them with a ton of disposable income that they threw towards poker. which inflated the poker economy to such bizarre heights. I believe similar situations like this will happen again soon enough..
I saw the hand Nr. 2 live. Isildur insta check raised the turn, Ivey snap-called. Isil insta pots the river and Ivey snap-called. So it literally took 5 seconds for the pot to go from 50k to over a mill :D
Do you know what Ivey ended up having?
@@robg8203 jack 10 😉
As a note, I had to do some detective work to get some of these hands. So I might be off 1 or 2 hands, but it should be just about right.
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I would never play these nose-bleed stakes. It's pure insanity.
Doug Polk Poker Can you put in percentages of who's winning by there names preflop and so on?
Where can I buy the movie Dream machine with Harry Haxton? And is it as unreal as the movie I am top 1000 in the world with Daniel Negreanu?
Chris Nenshati that's why no one will remember ur name
I didn't see anybody else mention it so I figured I'd comment. they were playing 3k/9k blinds so they weren't 3 betting preflop
blinds were 500/1000
@@24magiccarrot no they were pre agreed to raise to 3k 9k pre.
@@undergroundpost They may have been pre agreed to raise to 3k 9k (not sure where you are getting your info from), but the blinds were still 500/1000
dumb fuck
@@StairwayToHvNN lol you sound fun
Guessing the sun is to your left, seeing the crab grass on your head is leaning that way.
Crabgrass.lmao. I see it!
One thing I didn't hear you talk about in discussion of their preflop strategy is the context of the game. A lot of these matches were always open - 3 bet, so a raise not really being a raise until the 4th bet. Obviously not all of them played that way but a lot of them did. Small point but, I just thought about it when you went over the first hand and questioned him 3 betting a single suited gapper.
Doug Great video please consider:
Isildur top 5 NL pots
Isildur VS Durrr top 5 pots
Patrick Vs Durrr top 5 pots
You vs Sauce top 5 pots
TV Cash Games top 5 pots
You're 5th-10th highest pots
Nice One....
adam daye then a top 5 worst ever hands
Your*
I think I recall some of these matches having a mandatory 3x then 9x pre. That might explain some of the preflop action.
Will you do the 5 biggest Holdem hands?
Wow this was a great video. These hands were really fun to look at. Good analysis Doug.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it. I like to mix in reviewing some high stakes stuff as possible.
Very good analysis, Doug. Please post more of this kind, I really enjoy it. Thanks man :)
Why didn't you call this Isilder Hands?
Hi, you said at the end of vid you will ever see hands as big as these. How come you think that? I would of thought they will just keep growing due to more and more cash on these sites? great vid tho ty :)
Awesome video Doug! More please! 😃
Doug Polk Poker You should have atleast 10 mill subscribers,but it will Come with all your vids,which I have to thumbs up every video since Im beginning to watch vids ive already seen,since you got so many.Thats something I gotta respect.since none are bad or boring.stay cool Doug ...Hope your biggest win Comes soon.so these pots will be like yours
have you thought about calling it Blomker hands?
Great stuff Doug, Keep the videos coming buddy
Some guy in the chat commenting on the biggest pot said this: Ship a Yacht. Which is hilarous and quite true. Fucking OnePointFourMillion dollars. This shit was the crazy. Too bad Doug had to settle with shipping a Lambo
I usually ship a icecream... maybe a happy meal on my crazy days.
are those 2+2 pokerbooks in the back ? out of all pokerbooks you read which one was the most valueable for you doug ?
Can you do Isildur's top 5 limit badugi pots next? Think he had one get into the three figures once.
Hey Doug, I was wondering about Patrik's turn bet size in the first hand. He pot bets his overpair and nut flush draw and your concensus is that it is ok, but you wouldn't like it if Isildur check/jammed on you. This sounds logical. However, in Holdem you often talk about balancing your range. I think that if Patrik would have a flopped set (most likely 22xx or 44xx), he would often use the pot betsizing on the turn to charge hands like KKxx with a flushdraw or some combodraws and to deny him from realising his (probably substantial) equity cheaply. In order to have a balanced range he has to add some other non set holdings to the mix, to let Isildur1 make mistakes with the hands like he had this hand. Isn't ATT3cc the perfect hand to add to this range, together with maybe some combidraws? I agree that an Isildur shove will suck, but you also have to aknowledge that there are very few holdings Isildur is able to shove here. Isildur was playing so agressive this session that you have to assume that he would threebet most of his premium holdings on the flop, so he has no sets and strong two pair combo's in his range. This means his flop call either meant that he was drawing himself to a straight/flush or had the kind of rundown with top pair/straight draw combination he had now. The 7 only helps a few rundowns in his range which now hit two pair, but most of his range misses and maybe picks up some more equity.
Conclusion: I don't think Patrik had a choice in betsizing and probably has to bet pot on the turn, because of balancing, protecting possibly the best hand, and possibly setting himself up for a pot-river shove.
they playing ferrari pots and im looking to win the 7$ spin & go
Did you win?
@@Masterdebater14 still on it, hu rn
@@itzKxqii did u win?
really enjoyed the analysis and learned a fair bit. Cheers.
About the 3x/9x from the first hand, wasn't this mandatory in that game? I recall something along that line
Awesome video Doug! More of these please! Keep up the great work! ✌️️😃
I remember hearing in a interview with Barry G that Phil told him he had KJAA there and regretted betting the turn.
great analysis! Could you talk one day about ZOOM cash? Like one video of the main differences with regular cash games. Or one stream so then you can do a summary video. Thank you from Spain!
4:17 Watch Doug's eyeballs roll back up into his head.
Great content man... just love this sort of movies... :)
You should've called this PLOlker hands
good idea for a vid, love it!
I believe we will have pots like this again, if not bigger. When online poker is legalised in the US, it will be like a tsunami of action. I can't wait.
quoted from your site "Doug has played games his whole life. His parents always taught him to think and decide for himself. Dedicated to success, so I would picks something and focuses his energy to make it happen." you're welcome
I love your office, it looks really neat!
Not a PLO player can someone explain the last hand? Didnt isildur get the higher straight?
doug i need help with my heads up game...can you help me? fyi ivey did an interview with card player magazine stating he had J10 in that hand
thank you for the upload bro
4:30 You say in hand #1 he can win with a 10, a 5 or a club but the 10 gives Blom a straight brah.
btw who was the biggest crusher in those 6-7 figure pot size days? Antonius since he won like 15mil on-line or did he just fed of isildur and some other crazy guys?
Antonius, Ivey, Dwan, The Dang Brothers, Phil Galfond. All of them made a shitload of Guy Laliberte, he lost like almost $30 million across 5 screen names.
Wait 7:10 you DONT want to be 20% equity in a 800k pot? This is why I need your videos doug
This is some seriously groundbreaking stuff here
Joshua Fortune I'd like 20% equity in an 800k pot. Just don't wanna put in 400k first.
Rly nice video Doug.Keep doing it i love ur style.
great show thanks Doug
hi doug !!! have a question does the time difference of australia effect you when playing online ? thinking of coming and thinking about this
love you doug! thanx, love isi more off course;)
i think iveys play with the flop flat was to move the action to the turn removing alot of the flips
Lol what was he doing on hand #2? If I decide to pot the turn and get raised I would flat then jam if the board pairs or the flush comes in, in addition to the wrap coming in. Not re jam lmao
PLO for me is the best poker game, although many people avoid it, and that's because:
1) You can win more money for less time in average which leaves you more time off computer (compared to NLTH or other forms of poker)
2) Rakeback on the same level as NL is much higher because pots are bigger
3) A good player doesn't have to think that much playing PLO compared to NL, its easier game, so you can stay focused much longer.
Plus, 4) if you can't afford or just don't like(like me) using HUD, in PLO it just doesn't matter that much even when you are multitabling higher number of tables.
It really is "the great game" of PLO !
LOL, if you are not trolling, than good night Sir.
Rakeback is not bigger because of bigger pots, but because you pay an insane amount of rake in PLO.
"leaves more time off computer" and "great game"? kind of contradiction. I dont want time off computer if I play the great game!
What is it good for if you can't enjoy and spend what you're playing for ?
Making more rakeback means paying more rake you fool ;)
Few questions about the biggest pot. Firstly, Isildur1 starts with ~$678,000 so how does the pot get to ~$1,448,000 that confuses me. Also, when the money goes in Isildur is all in but his stack resets to ~$181,000, what's with that? The way I see it they start with ~$1,936,000 on the table and end with ~$1,846,000, something is weird with this, Isildur should have $0 chips as Patrik has him covered and Patrik should have ~$1,936,000 minus rake?
love your videos Doug!
Sorry for my ignorance, I've never played PLO. How come Antonius' two pair (10s and 3s) didn't beat Isildur's two pair (9s and 7s)?
wideboy64 only 2 / 4 from the cards in the hand are played. In this case Antonius' 10 10 and Isildurs 9 7
Swaghetti Yolonese Thanks!
Swaghetti Yolonese I was looking for an explanation on the last hand (biggest pot) . Your comment helped explain why Antonius and not Isildur won. Thanks
I love your wall decoration Doug!
Why won't pots like this happen again ( you mentioned that at the end of your video ). I just got into poker a few months ago therefore I don't really know the history of online poker.
+Kasper Wolsink Back in the day they had much bigger stakes tables. In these games the big blind was $1,000 and now the biggest online is $400.
Also it could be said game theory has evolved since then and many of these plays are too aggro and would be exposed by today's best players.
Doug Polk Poker also they were backed by full tilt handing out millions to play so of course it was easy back then to play high stakes. Nowadays these guys aren't even around because they can't afford it. Way better players out there who play with their own money!
I think they used to play mandatory 3-bet. So the 4 bet is actually just a raise =)
The high level play blows Dougs mind
Dougie probably goes through a ritual every video to decide which pictures he hangs in the background. Doug Polk ARG confirmed?
Loving the content bro. Still deciding who I prefer, you or Jason Mercier... Hmmm
I dont know where but I see somewhere that ivey have a A high flush againg isildur .
lol at helmuth poster in the background :D
lol
Fabien S å
Where is the intro music Doug....
the 3bets/4bets preflop on Ivey vs Isildur was a deal they made before the match because they wanted to play higher than Fulltilt offered
Don't think that is the case here in these games, because all of the hands make somewhat sent to 3b/4b. I do remember Isildur playing in mandatory 3b games though.
at 12:00 you mention patrik is lucky to not run into a set, but given its HU and he has top 2, doesn't patrik know that it is way less likely that isildur has a set? therefore getting it good
honestly first time i ever see footage of ivey playing plo
Doug when will you be playing an aired big cash games again?
Good question, I don't think there are too many going around these days
Doug Polk Poker play live at the bike 😬
Would be cool to see you on Poker Night in America! Keep up the good work - have fun - never give up!
Finally caught Doug making a mistake on a hand analysis. On first pot he says Patrik has gutter to the nuts on the flop. I know I know... Negates everything else Doug has ever done for the game.
What's the program you're using?
good job Doug . nice vid
"he had about 20% equity in a 800k pot, thats not where you want to be"
no doug i dont think so... lol
This video will be so popular
Great video bro.
Thanks man!
Antonius is a God
Why do you think these kind of pots won't happen again in online poker Doug ??
Why is it we will never see these stakes in online poker again??
4x betting 9876ss is not too aggressive heads up
How did isildur win the first hand? He has 99, 77 vs antonious 10's and 3's?
in plo you have to use two cards from your own hand and three from the board. this means that antonius only has one pair of tens.
3betting 789J is insanely standard IMO. But other than that good vid.
Excellent vlog..
doug polk is PLO specialist?
Definitely not, but he still knows way more than the average player.
Definitely better than Isildur. All these pots he got pretty lucky.
Cool hands - thanks for the info!
It’s a fold on the flop for Isildur 100% of the time when he gets 3 bet. Crazy how bad some of these guys were back in the day. Meanwhile, he wins an 800k pot. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. Same deal in 2nd hand. Such an action turn card on the 2nd hand. Brutal river. Can’t imagine running as good as he did and end up broke, but I’m also not a lunatic and never would have had a chance to get there in most of these hands.
these guys were routinely playing 3000/9000. So the raise to 9K isn't really a raise but the stakes they were playing.
"Isildur also improves to a flush with his boat, but I think he's going to play the flush." 🤔
bennyjg444 it was a joke
Why are days like these gone? has something happened to the online poker world?
how antonious won that pot when isildor have high straight i dont get it ????
Why will online poker never be like this again?
Because Full Tilt Poker was a Ponzi scheme, this was essentially play money LMAO
lol, well the "essentially play money" of yours felt very real to most players.
Except... people don't get their money back from Ponzi schemes. The owners were definitely stealing from the players, but everyone was made whole eventually. The Americans had to wait a while, but (apart from the people who sold off their bankrolls for cents on the dollar) nobody ended up losing money.
so he plays his top pairs super agro heads up cause he blocks top set?
doug reading that dan harrington book
just such a good game for coin flips
Played plo recently, 1-2.. what a crazy game.. next time i play, definitely gonna be in the morning and not at 4am after long night of texas and drinking ect., i did break even but.. could have easily given it all away.. this is just outrageous.. a million in one pot.. a million dollars.. thats some james bond sh*t lol
man, that offsuit 8 on the river when they both have top two plus draws....sick.
I dont get it at all, didnt isildur have a straight in the nr 1 hand? (56789)
Zegner no man -- not a straight. of the four cards you are dealt, you only can play two of them. so he had 45 from the board and 67, as again, he can only play two cards from his hand. i would not have bet kk like that, he's blocking his own straight by having a 3 and isildur could have very easily had two pair, i guess patrick does have a pretty monster hand, i try playing a hand like patrick does and i get busted every time. got A-high flush today and someone rivered a straight flush. good times .. and folded 10 J hearts in a different hand before the flop, then end up getting Royal Flush. #^^_=#$^&_$'c!!!!!!! lol
The Adam veniteiri of poker
just for the record antonious didnt have nut straight , he has the wheel but 3,6 is the nuts :)
Last hand hurt my brain. i only play hold em
wow, Patrick brought 1.3M on the table, so sick
Imbicil is definitely 1 way too agressive and lucky dude! Glad see Antonius rake instead sucked out. Would been great to see Doug stacking Isdr instead of commentating. Nice upload.
Help me explain this ?
Last hand (biggest pot ever) Isildur starts with less than 700k, and the pot ends up being 1447k ? :p
How can that be ? :D
How Did antonius win the last hand if isildur had the straight
lmao is that a framed pic of hellmuth eating a burger?!?!
Why don't you think pots like this will ever happen online again? personally I don't think current online players realize that the games simply don't run as big as they did pre 2009 due to economic collapses and less to do with anything that has happened with poker directly. the biggest games online were happening during the housing boom and absurd credit lines people were getting that left them with a ton of disposable income that they threw towards poker. which inflated the poker economy to such bizarre heights.
I believe similar situations like this will happen again soon enough..
What was that 180k return for isil all about? Patrick had him covered.
i'm not an expert but seems like isildur1 was the fish in those games