as someone who bought the viper ultimate and really enjoyed it, and then bought the logitech g pro superlight and _really_ enjoyed that, I am LOVING the new viper v2 pro. its exactly what I wanted the viper ultimate to be.
@@MisterMayhem17 its perfect, i hate the grips in the ultimate... and 58 gr? damn.. & and the optical switches.. its just perfect... the pro is for pro players from esports... not for more things
But, gprox superlight was just 5 or 4 grams lighter right? Is it really worth the price? I’m not asking cause I’m some douche, I’m asking cause I’m considering upgrading but not entirely sure.
@@TheRealSkeletor the youtuber is random frank p, he said at the end of the video "i will boldly say this if you are watching reviews other reviewers today and there not making it so obvious to you that this pro mouse is not pro at all for the price and they are giving you a glowing recommendation for $150 you know who is full of bs and who to unsubscribe to" that's what made drama over the mouse. Sorry if my grammar isn't good.
Thank you for letting us know you are one of the real "RUclipsrs" that care about their audience and not about the big companies sending them products. Please keep it that way.
I have the original Viper Ultimate with v2 switches and superglide glass feet. You can get the Viper Ultimate for $50-$60 with or without the dock used or renewed, and it's often on sale. I honestly need nothing else, it's the perfect weight, shape, and coating and with glass feet, it's even better. Edit: A USB-C adapter for it also exists for $10 USD (base price and shipping) so you can use any USB-C cable for charging. It's called encoo USB-C to Micro USB dongle for Razer Wireless Gaming Mice.
Gotta say, those superglides are the way to go. I had some hyperglide PTFE skates before putting on the superglides, and the glass is so much better. Not sure if you're supposed to be using the glass feet on a soft pad, but they feel really nice on my Firefly.
@@S_naptrap They're amazing, and I think it can be used on any pad kind except glass mousepads. I use mine on a GLIDE 38 which is a hybrid pad and they feel so great. I had to get used to that nearly absent friction but once I did, it was all good.
@@natemendoza9026 they have a breaking point, and afterward, they do not get slower. You will need to keep your mousepad clean though as you will feel all the dirt and particles on your mousepad, which is annoying as hell.
@@natemendoza9026 I'm sure they do, but it's not anywhere like PTFE feet as far as I know. I've had mine for about a month and they feel as good as the day I installed them. The manufacturer claims that they are a "near-permanent" solution so I imagine they could be used for several years before needing a replacement.
I've actually watched several videos on this mouse and this is the first one that I felt like was a fresh take. I love the introduction as to how if feels in things like CS and Valorant.
We already had this conversation with the GPX and the sad reality is that people keep paying it so manufacturers will keep raising the price until consumers say that's enough the onus falls to the consumer to dictate what is acceptable
@@Knubz this is the big thing. logitech rarely puts their mice on sale but razer does, and they have to have the same MSRP to drive home it's the GPX competitor. overall razer isn't faultless but definitely more consumer friendly than logitech here.
Its called supply and demand, gpx costs 150 because there is enough demand for it, razer can price their v2 pro 150 because thats the market price. The consumer's opinions alone could not dicatate the price of products.
I remember buying a Razer Mamba 5 years ago it was the best mouse that I could buy back then they still didnt changed they are still making the best mouse for me.Good Quality / Good Sensor / Beautifull design.
At least Razer has much better build quality compared to Logitech, but still price gouging. Only bought my Orochi V2 on sale at 50 USD instead of 70 usd. Cuz that is what it's worth, add in 25 USD for a pack of 4 AAA pale blue rechargeable batteries (7g) and 5 USD for a pack of AAA to AA adapters and my mouse ended up costing 80 USD. I'm fine with it but at 70 usd Orochi V2 would have costed me 100 USD and it ain't worth that with a 3369 sensor!
@@Frencho9 Have you used a gpw or g303. Logitech is s teir with razor. I will say they def could used better switchis and type c but the engineering is top notch compared to cheaper brands. There are alor of solid and great wireless mice but I think gpwx and viper v2 pro are def top 2 imo. But to each their own. Not everyone can afford a 250 final mouse.
@@8bitsamurai6 Screw that main button side play on the G Pro X Superlight and Micro USB (kill it with fire!) yet people pay up to 160$ for that! G Pro Superlight users are like Apple fanatics bragging about their 2016 apple MacBooks with butterfly switch keyboards that break all the time and so thin, light and quiet they are toasters constantly thermal throttling but hey those products are more a status symbol or whatever they come up with as a coping mechanism 🤣. Also honestly I don't like the shape much. As a clawer Orochi V2, Xtrify M42 or XM1/2 (too big now tough) gang me be!
Overpriced and I miss the dock, but so far loving the V2. The lighter weight is very nice, and I feel like the buttons (especially the side) are much better feeling when clicking them. Mouse scroll is still meh.
Despite the improvement on the feet aka being bigger, *I'D LOVE* if all companies focus on making bigger feet/indents. With GPX/G303SE/Zowie/XM1 you can always put smaller feet if you want, but indents on most mice being so small we don't have the luxury of the vice versa, using bigger feet. I hate Xtrfy's tiny feet, i hate RVU small feet. Just do what Endgame gear did - make bigger indents. You get to choose between smaller feet of OG Xm1 or the bigger Zowie-like feet of the newer. I am pretty sure that you even get 1 big and 1 small pair inside the box.
The XTRFY M42W has huge feet .. on the opposite my Finalmouse has 4 essentially dots. My GOAT is still GPX and I'm using this V2 Pro. I'd say it's more about your mouse pads' surface than the per se size of their feet. I prefer a hard surface in my instance. A solid aluminum core covered with PVC with PTFE or glass skates. There's never going to be a mouse that's going to suit every person's needs.
@@DJaquithFL well said to each their own. The gpx is also my goat but really like the vu aswell. Just opened my v2 pro thi cant wait to test. Really wish theyd make a viper minu ultimate and pro version. Such a great size and shape even for bigger hands. Just getting into pads. Any recommendations?
@@8bitsamurai6 .. I play at what some people consider an insane DPI .. 5400 and all I play is CoD Hardcore. Hardcore is about the fastest 1st shot. That said there's a really good recent comparison of Artisan mousepads from a smaller YT'er .. Good Enough Tech Reviews and it's probably one of the best compare and contrast reviews I've seen. Artisan are a safe bet. I primarily like aluminum core PVC covered mouse pads. Examples Corsair M600, Razer Invicta Gaming Mouse Pad, Blade Hawks Gaming W Double-Sided Aluminum. None of them are for sale anymore. I have a Logitech G Powerplay Wireless Charging System pad still sitting in the box unopened, but it will wirelessly charge your GPX and it's still considered a hard surface pad or at least it's supposed to be. I'm getting ready to swap out a new keyboard and rewire my office so that's the reason still sitting in the box.
First, amazing review and quality content here. Secondly, well done handling drama. There's no need to be unprofessional if you don't agree with others and you just modeled how to be respectfully humble. Thank you so much for all you're hard work! 🙏👍
@@mattyn7029 there was a RUclipsr that told his audience to unsubscribe from others if they gave this mouse a glowing review. It was a low blow to others and really unprofessional.
I agree with weight not being much of an issue anymore. They can't make them much lighter than this and plus weight was always a personal preference for people anyway. I always liked the mice that let you adjust the weight of the mouse with included weights so you could get that perfect feel
Good guy Dmitri recommending other RUclipsrs to get a more varied opinion on the product instead of shutting others off because they have a different opinion.
You're right about the weight difference being noticeable. I notice it with my g pro vs superlight, It makes holding the mouse more natural and effortless. And I prefer razer's flatter shape. So I'd love this mouse if ambidextrous with no right side buttons wasn't such an annoying trend, because if you're used with doing important stuff in-game with them, then the use for such a mouse is rather limited. As it is, I'd rather get 2 more ultimates for the price of one of these, before everyone saves a few bucks on 2 switches and you can't get proper ambi mice anywhere.
The price is steep for sure, but same for Logi. Just started testing it and compare it to the Viper Ult, and I have to say that I really don't miss the side grips as I thought initially. Also, the lack of RGB is a good thing for me as the battery life won't be affected :)
Got the v2 pro today since my viper ultimate has trouble charging on the dock. Played some valorant with it already. I’m loving what I feel. Shape seems identical to the ultimate. And you for sure feel the weight difference. I use it on a firefly hard mouse pad and the tracking and smoothness is perfect. I’m glad I upgraded.
Thank you for actually reviewing the mouse vs complaining about the price the entire video! While, sure, Razer could have probably charged a bit less, at the end of the day it is the consumer who makes the decision to spend their money. Besides, a year from now there will be good discounts anyway, and this review will actually help them determine if it is a good product 👍
Can we get some love for the smaller reviewers? Some of them are GOATED when it comes to this topic. Fresh Reviews, Haus gaming, Chad alt delete, Hardware unplugged, Good enough tech reviews, Jaypher
I have the Roccat Burst Pro, Razer Deathadder V2 and Logitech G305. Personally I think that the shape of the Deathadder is a bit weird as it tilts your horizontal aim to the left, if gripped as intended by the company.
Bought the viper ultimate few months back for $63 bucks. With hyperglides feet. The glide on surface feels light but you will still notice the weight when you lift the mouse, coming from mm710. I do really enjoy the wireless convenience as I daily driver it not to mention the being able to put the dongle inside is such a plus for portability. I think the discounted viper ultimate with some hyperglide feet would make most average consumer happy and you just have to pay a bit more for the dock. I personally have no use for the dock since i just charge the mouse overnight when necessary. Battery easily last 4 to 5 days with regular use.
I just got the Viper Ultimate for $30 and Basilisk Ultimate with dock on sale for $70. Not going to pay $150 for the V2 Pro when I got 2 great mice for less. I don't game professionally, so not going to stress it out. Viper Ultimate for fps, Basilisk Ultimate for others.
Thank you so much for the review, it was unbiased and really helpful. I've noticed most of the issues come with the price, but I guess if you can pick it up on sale it's a good FPS mouse option. I recently picked it up for 99 usd, I was looking for a lightweight FPS focused mouse with a USB charging port. I'm excited to test it out when it comes in, in Ow, Valorant and League.
Reviewers need to focus on what are the best peripherals etc and let the audience, consumers, decide if it's worth the price. Pandering to people because of their reaction to prices and making excuses about it is a complete disservice. I have every good wireless mouse and too many wired and this new V2 Pro wireless is top tier, it's not my GOAT but it's close.
Funnily enough, I got my Logitech GPX Superlight for a discount and absolutely love it. A friend got the Viper Ultimate V1 for slightly less and honestly I understand the price tag drama bit, but mice as a whole are nowhere near the priciest part of a setup to get arguably something top of the line. This new iteration of the Viper V2 is one I'd really like to try, but feel like the Superlight is too similar, other than the shape.
do you think the Razer Naga Pro is only ok because you dont get the feeling of a modern lightweight focused mouse? like all of the beenfits from feeling go to the diverse use? I've only ever used razer naga mice, and want a naga pro but im interested in some of these light mouses, but i've never had one
wow its like Orochi v2 and Viper ultimate had a child, I am definetly buying it. I just can't stand Viper Ultimate's extra features that is why it is not perfecly balance. I also don't like super light because I don't like the shape, I prefer Viper Ultiamte so I step backed and mained Orochi v2. Now finally Razer updated the viper ultimate without the mandatory placing a grip tape and without the charging dock feature that is really annoys me when gets dirty it can be picky on how oyu will place the mouse on the charging dock. Now it supports type c it will charge better and it may have a better performance while using the cable.
Razer RMA support for Canadians is terrible. The Agents don't read, ask the same questions over despite being answered and when they finally determine your product is defective, their advanced replacement option is in USD. When I asked them how much the hold would be, they quoted the price on the invoice without looking at the fact my invoice had other transactions on it. Another agent responded saying I'd only have to pay the MSRP for my device when I bought it at 91.99 (after Tax). I ended up accepting the advanced repair option - AFTER being ensured it wouldn't be any more than I paid for the controller, I accepted the advanced repair service. On receiving the information for the hold, they had the total price of 91.99 in USD, which is about 115-120 CAD. I've done Cell phone tech support & RMA before so I understand some of the possible issues, however it's ridiculous that I'd let them take a hold for 35 dollars more than I actually paid for the device. Even with the higher price of cell phones, we only held a fraction of the device price. For those curious, it was a wolverine v2 controller and it failed after 6 months with one of the buttons just not accepting input. I enjoyed the controller while it lasted but between the terrible support, ridiculous RMA options and a product that broke in half the time of the warranty, I'll never buy another Razer product. This mouse may be nice but where you guys are fellow Canadians, I figured other Canadians might benefit from this information as warranty service can often be a factor in making purchases. Corsair support was amazing. I broke the bracket for the H115i pump and they shipped out a whole new set of brackets for any chipset - Free. I also had 2 led strips fail and instead of asking me to send in the defective strips, they just sent out another package of 4 strips, leaving me with 2 extra. Amazing RMA support from Corsair especially considering the strips cost almost as much as the Razer controller I had go defective. Step up your game Razer.
If anything... this makes the previous model that much more desirable if you can get it at almost half the price, and have it include so much more features. However, this mouse is for a specific enthusiast that will find value in it. I'm absolutely not it, but it made me value the older tech more.
At this point - the GPX if you prefer the Logitech shape, the Viper V2 if you prefer the Razer shape. I wanted to love the Razer shape, but for me the Logitech was just more comfortable.
About the price tag drama, Both the G Pro X Superlight and V2 Pro Viper are overpriced at 160/150 USD, they are cutting down on features and cost (less raw materials and production costs!) compared to the luxury originals. And in the case of GPRO X build quality is garbage to add insult to injury! Would you like to pay more for a consumer Sedan car that is lacking the entire AC system, the car interior lights, also the back seats and the charger outlet/port in the trunk because it is lighter for amateur street racing? SteelSeries is the worst cause they charge 130/140/150 USD for the Prime and Aerox 5/9 wireless mice and they have a 3335 BUDGET sensor and are bricks! The EndgameGear XM2 wireless at 120 USD is the only fair pricing for a top tier PRO Competitive mouse! Then 80 to 100 USD is fine for high end 3370 wireless mice like Xtrify M42/M4, Roccat Burst Pro Air, Pulsar Xlite V2, Fnatic bolt or Glorious mice as they don't have the latest sensors unlike XM2w, G Pro Superlight and Viper V2 Pro which should all cost 120 USD MAX! And these pricing considering the supply chain issues are fair, still margin for profits, but not enough for ripping off the consumer! And to be fair both Logitech and Razer have enough economies of scale to lower costs to 100-110 usd compared to small Endgame Gear who needs to sell at 120 (and the build quality of XM1r is better!)
Why are all of the reviewers glossing over the texture on this mouse? Once I started using it, it was one of my favorite things about it. It's very similar to the cat's tongue roughness they use on hard plastic gun grips. Ignores sweat and provides good grip. They really dialed the texture in well to balance between how grippy it is and how abrasive it is for long sessions. It's right in the grippiest it can be without being too rough.
i think i agree with randomfrankp that most ppl might want to buy the original for half the price and it comes with a dock. its just confusing that they take away features but dont lower the price
It might just be in my head but I feel like the wireless on the Viper V2 pro is a little more responsive than anything we’ve had so far. It might just be a side effect of the 30k sensor too.
exactly. a lower price point for the removed specs to achieve the lower weight would blow logitech's super light out of the park. at least in terms of competing for value for money. and it still retains the value of the other vipers like the ultimate, having features. if you say it's for the pros that do not want those features, don't tell me they would not want their pro mice to be affordable af.
does Razer Viper V2 need razer's proprietary USB C cable to connect? Or can you use any USB C cable lying around? Razer, and even Ninjutso are dirty to make the fitting for the connection SLIGHLY smaller so that ONLY their cable fits
Firstly purchased Viper V2 Pro, however I was not satisfied with the mouse quality. It just looks and felt cheap for its expensive price. So I returned it and went with Ultimate with Dock, in final it was a lot cheaper, more comfortable for charging with dock with the nice indication of charging. I used apple devices on the daily basis, play only a couple of hours per week and with the mouse on dock, I'm always sure that mouse is charged, I can pick up it anytime and just start to play without messing with cables. So far only one minus - mini USB cable, I would rather prefer USB type C, and better look of the dock station when the mouse is not on it
I have a Logitech that got double clicking after 14 months, so I wanted something with optical switches. Rtings said this is the best mouse you can buy, and it was $50 off so I ordered it.
I just got this mouse yesterday and I love it. I don't care about RGB. The price is a little high but it's the best mouse available imo, so it's kind of worth it. The 30K sensor is great and has sped up my use of dual monitors. The only shortcoming in my eyes is that it can't run 8khz polling in the wired mode. It feels solid, light, accurate and works well. I give it a thumbs up!
people should be aware that popular tech brands are ripping you off. there are lesser known brands that offer peripherals with similar specs and experience for much less cost.
@@keonxd8918 Recently I've been using switching between two wireless mice, one is the Tecware EXO Wireless and the other being RAKK Talan Air (RAKK is an asian brand). While both only cost you around 40$ sometimes you can buy them even cheaper, imo they easily offer the same experience as a mouse from Glorious (yes I've tried a couple of glorious mice before). As for keyboards, customs built mech keyboards what i recommend the most. With little effort and research, you can easily build a 100$ mech keyboard that could fit your preferences (layout, sound profile, etc.). Hotswap keyboards nowadays are cheap some are selling around 40$ and yet they already offer multiple connectivity and have good sound dampening. As for switches, there are a lot of sellers that sell switches that are already lubed. Lubed Milky yellows for example sell around 20$ for 100 pieces. For keycaps there are as lot of choices and some sell really cheap but for a good set of cherry profile keycaps, you can find them at around 30-40$. And what keyboard does popular tech brands offer for 100$? Clicky rattly pingy garbage keyboards with ugly build and random useless features.
I'm not really a fan of Razers mice. They just aren't my thing. I can see why people like them, but they just aren't for me. That said I always watch your reviews, so I know something about them if a friend may ask me about it. And damn, the sponsorship transition was smooth!
I've had the Viper Ultimate since launch, and it has been completely flawless and gives me extreme edge in gaming. So I clicked this video immediately.
@@Dylan_Shaw mine side grips started to wear on the thumb area so I ended up wrapping nearly the entire mouse in Goon Tape (for guns) and it made my aiming flawless in FPS games
Thought it said deal alert? Bummer. Agree the shroud g303 is made and feels so well done but hust not a fan of the shape and sharp edges in the back. Everything else on it is perfect tho. The clicks feel so good.
I've owned the basilisk ultimate and had similar issues. It has to do with the weird scroll wheel tension system on the baslisk. The vipers don't have that tensioner and so it has no issues.
My viper ultimate started left clicking on it's own 3 days before warranty ran out, exchanged it for g ro x superlight, the new v2 looks great so it was a toss up but swapped to logi because anecdotally battery life is great, viper has mushy clicks (v2 is somewhat improved though), viper takes a while to wake up from sleep (you get used to it but eh) and the G pro x is so universally loved I just gotta see why, also the logitech is cheaper by $40aud!
Like this gaming mouse looks good. Its price also corresponds to this, which is much higher than I think. But I wonder how it is with accuracy and aiming in shooters? And how are headshots distributed with her? What about its longevity and quality? So far I'm using this gaming mouse: Hama uRage Reaper neo sensitivity 3200 DPI
I bought this and honestly prefer my Viper Ultimate. Not because of the removal of RGB and the charging stand though.. I hate the new texture and the buttons take too much force to press in for my liking, especially the scroll wheel
Just buy the viper ultimate if you want features, the viper v2 pro is for competitive gaming. The sheer engineering to get the mouse down to 58 grams with proper weight balance and the build quality as well as the novelty that comes with being the lightest gaming mouse avaible to the generel public. The people who are bashing razer for this are the same people who was praising logitech when the superlight came out, their whole argument is based on fallacies wheter they like it or not.
Yeah Razer saw that Logitech got away with their price hikes, so they were like: "Hey?! So we can charge more and consumers will just eat that crap up?" "Let's go price hikeee!"
Unless I'm wrong, the tech inside a mouse isn''t exactly groundbreaking, how a sensor, some switches and wireless tech shrouded in plastic can go for this much I'll never understand! A gaming mouse should be 50$ - 70$ max! Definitely not processor or motherboard money.
tbh, the Ultimate you get the bonus dock and turning off rgb was an option to get better battery life than the Pro V2. I would have loved to hear you state Razer “reduce the price by $70” (not like $10 in the audio) hehe 🤭 as the Razers Ultimate is the key competitor to the Viper V2 Pro 👍🤩 at a much better price and feature set. I’d personally spend the extra $30-40 for the Finalmouse Starlight which offers a much lighter frame, unique body material, vg battery life than the Pro V2. While I agree the V2 Pro is a nice mouse, it’s not worth anywhere near its currents price…. Just a cash grab 🤬🤕! The Superlight by Logitech too is way overpriced to justify.
I'm keep a buck with the people saying the price is too much if you can justify buying a logitech superlight (the best wireless mouse in the market you can justify buying a viper v2 pro) I do understand why people are complaining but that price is for paying a premium prince for fantastic sensor great shape if you are a finger tip or claw user (wouldn't recommend it for palm grip however if you want good ergo or palm grip mouse deathader v3 pro is fantastic)
I think it's fine. As long as they keep the old RVU then who cares? Pick the one that suits you best. The V2 Pro is targeted at the competitive player and that category won't sell as much. I would bet any money it comes down in the next year. Honestly, I would rather pay more for higher performance personally. Also, it always costs more to switch up tooling at the beginning, it's not just materials. I'm not saying it's fairly priced. On the high side I would say even 125$ for it at the beginning would be acceptable. Then over time they lower it.
I have spend a few thousand dollars on logitech mice. Every single one of them dies the exact same way. The right click registers stickily and randomly does double clicks. I bought a viper ultimate over a year ago. No problems at all whatsoever. Only complaint would be the slow startup from autosleep.
Ok so i have the razer mamba elite and its fits me perfect, im 5’6 125 so im not big so im debating on getting the death adder v3 pro or viper v2. Which one is closest to the size of the razer mamba elite
5:04 actual testing from other reviewers says otherwise. G pro X superlight has better battery life than RVU V2, unless you are only basing it on the 70 and 80 hours specs listed by the companies.
If the quality reflects the price I have no problem paying for it. It’s a premium mouse and is priced as such. I got both the viper and g pro x and if anything the g pro is overpriced. The build quality is inferior to the viper by a considerable margin
You're exaggerating, the G Pro X is of excellent build quality, at least my batch. Unless Logitech sells a crappy version in your country. What in particular do you view inferior?
@@outlaw6313 The plastic feels very cheap compared to the ultimate and the clicks don’t feel as nice or refined to me. Logitechs software is much better tho. Micro usb is garbage tear on both mice. I much prefer the shape of the ultimate but that’s just me. I bought the ultimate first and then later bought the g pro x but eventually put the g pro x away and have been using the ultimate since… the g pro x is a bit lighter tho indeed
Reviewers are missing this because they dont use it long enough, but the viper v2 pro has dongle issues and it will just die on you randomly. mine died in less than 2 months. its everywhere. If you google 'viper v2 pro dongle issue', a ludicrous amount of people have been having their dongles die for over a year. its way too common a problem to hope that it wont happen to you. Dont buy this mouse unless you want to be stuck paying $20 every 2 months to buy a replacement dongle after your warranty expires.
Happy with my orochi v2, very good performance, long battery life for what it delivers, smaller size for small hands/claw grippers and the price is just right. This one looks really appealing, but the price is a huge turn off
I went with the Razer Viper Ultimate. Simply because im left handed. It is really sad imo that left handed gamers get so little options. I mean, realistically I have two options. Screw the sidebuttons and get accustomed to a mouse that doesnt really fit my hand, because thumb resting positions are all on the left side, or go with the g pro (non superlight)/ Razer viper ultimate, the latter of I did, since wireless is a thing I want and the loading dock is something I wanted as well, since it eliminates the possibility of the battery dying mid game, because once you turn the pc off you simply put the mouse on the dock. So yeah, the v2 is nice, its in essence a lighter, one handed ultimate (I dont even use the rgb on mine, so maybe i can mod my mouse and remove all of that to make mine lighter). TLDR.: me lefty, so ultimate still better for me than v2 pro.
As a person who bought the viper mini and loved it, then went and bought the g502 lightspeed. I personally do not see why people are so caught up on weight. The g502 is slightly heavy, it would be awesome if Logitech refreshed it and made it under 100g. But at this point, losing features for weight is so stupid to me, which is why I also dislike honeycomb. I would love it if Logitech or razer or someone made a mouse with 4 side buttons and under 100g, either a viper or a g pro.
I'm on your reverse side, hahah. I was a G502 user for 8 years, practically since the first release. I thought it was the perfect mouse for me and I loved it so much. I played thousands of hours of Dota 2 & World of Tanks with that mouse. But now I'm trying viper mini for FPS games like Valorant, and I honestly couldn't go back to the bigger & heavier G502. I could gaming & also working long hours on my pc without feeling tired on my wrist. I have to sacrifice the ultrafast scrolling I used to love so much tho :')
@@pisangijo419 I ditched the viper mini because I wanted more buttons for my thumb, two is such a low amount. I have 0 interest in pvp so for me the hype for “pro” mice is moot. I prefer to get into a game and not have to worry about having to use different buttons on the keyboard. Maybe longer play sessions will reveal something to me as to why less weight is better. But considering this isn’t my first heavy gaming mouse, idk. Before the mini I’ve had naga epic’s since the first one came out and I loved the 12 buttons for the thumb, but for other games outside of mmos and literally any game with a tool bar. It was too much.
I would just like to see an angled ergo mouse and light. I have bad wrists they always pop. Any recommendations would be appreciated but all I found were cheapies.
I actually kinda like that my Razer doesn't have RGB. at first I didn't. I'd prefer if it came with it but then I thought about the battery, like Dmitiry said..
From a cost to performance ratio, I probably won't leave the Glorious family for a while. All of my razer and logitech mice start having double click issues and my Glorious mice just keep working flawlessly
No way it outlasts the GPX in battery life... GPX has 240mah and Viper has 300mah but the Viper has a hungrier sensor and optical switches. Did you actually test them?
So I really like the ultimate .. finally found a end game mouse in my opinion.. the weight is not a probably for me and the extra side buttons isn’t a bother.. I like the rgb..
The Razer Viper Mini is still the best Razer mouse for FPS, with the best price point. The wireless Viper Mini Pro will continue the trend of the best Razer FPS mouse with the best price point.
Abrasive plastic O ring around the sensor, pretty rigid cable, below average clicks, heavy for it's size... If that's the best one, Razer has lot's too improve.
@@iagher Those are subjective flaws. No mouse is perfect. Optical switches will never feel as good as mechanical switches. Stock cables will never feels as good as custom paracord cables. The Viper Mini is ranked and sold right next to the Viper and other top gaming mice twice its price. Yes, Razer could and should improve the Viper Mini. But having room for improvement doesn't make something bad.
as someone who bought the viper ultimate and really enjoyed it, and then bought the logitech g pro superlight and _really_ enjoyed that, I am LOVING the new viper v2 pro. its exactly what I wanted the viper ultimate to be.
Same here.
same here x3
Lighter?
@@MisterMayhem17 its perfect, i hate the grips in the ultimate... and 58 gr? damn.. & and the optical switches.. its just perfect... the pro is for pro players from esports... not for more things
But, gprox superlight was just 5 or 4 grams lighter right? Is it really worth the price? I’m not asking cause I’m some douche, I’m asking cause I’m considering upgrading but not entirely sure.
I appreciate how you handled the uhh.. "drama"
Much love to all the tech reviewers!
The little hint of shade towards "you know who" at the end tho
@@luckymark571 I missed it. What shade?
@@TheRealSkeletor He said at the end "If you like this mouse you don't know what your talking about" or something like that towards randomfrankp
@@TheRealSkeletor the youtuber is random frank p, he said at the end of the video "i will boldly say this if you are watching reviews other reviewers today and there not making it so obvious to you that this pro mouse is not pro at all for the price and they are giving you a glowing recommendation for $150 you know who is full of bs and who to unsubscribe to" that's what made drama over the mouse. Sorry if my grammar isn't good.
Much love to everyone except RandomFrankP who is a moron and has no idea what “pro” means.
Thank you for letting us know you are one of the real "RUclipsrs" that care about their audience and not about the big companies sending them products. Please keep it that way.
I have the original Viper Ultimate with v2 switches and superglide glass feet. You can get the Viper Ultimate for $50-$60 with or without the dock used or renewed, and it's often on sale. I honestly need nothing else, it's the perfect weight, shape, and coating and with glass feet, it's even better.
Edit: A USB-C adapter for it also exists for $10 USD (base price and shipping) so you can use any USB-C cable for charging. It's called encoo USB-C to Micro USB dongle for Razer Wireless Gaming Mice.
Gotta say, those superglides are the way to go. I had some hyperglide PTFE skates before putting on the superglides, and the glass is so much better. Not sure if you're supposed to be using the glass feet on a soft pad, but they feel really nice on my Firefly.
@@S_naptrap They're amazing, and I think it can be used on any pad kind except glass mousepads. I use mine on a GLIDE 38 which is a hybrid pad and they feel so great. I had to get used to that nearly absent friction but once I did, it was all good.
don't glass feet wear out mousepads eventually, and slow down too? when'd you get your glass feet?
@@natemendoza9026 they have a breaking point, and afterward, they do not get slower. You will need to keep your mousepad clean though as you will feel all the dirt and particles on your mousepad, which is annoying as hell.
@@natemendoza9026 I'm sure they do, but it's not anywhere like PTFE feet as far as I know. I've had mine for about a month and they feel as good as the day I installed them. The manufacturer claims that they are a "near-permanent" solution so I imagine they could be used for several years before needing a replacement.
I've actually watched several videos on this mouse and this is the first one that I felt like was a fresh take. I love the introduction as to how if feels in things like CS and Valorant.
Watch Randomfrankp he’s one of the best tech RUclipsrs out there. If you liked this review I feel like you might like his. lol
@@luxthefox228 I liked rfp’s video specifically because he actually maimed the Viper Ultimate for a while before that.
We already had this conversation with the GPX and the sad reality is that people keep paying it so manufacturers will keep raising the price until consumers say that's enough the onus falls to the consumer to dictate what is acceptable
just buy a black hyperx pulsfire haste.
The price will drop after a couple of weeks or months it's a good mouse if the price is under 130€
@@Knubz this is the big thing. logitech rarely puts their mice on sale but razer does, and they have to have the same MSRP to drive home it's the GPX competitor. overall razer isn't faultless but definitely more consumer friendly than logitech here.
Its called supply and demand, gpx costs 150 because there is enough demand for it, razer can price their v2 pro 150 because thats the market price. The consumer's opinions alone could not dicatate the price of products.
@@geralt8394 What are you trying to say? The consumers opinion of a product directly affects the demand.
I remember buying a Razer Mamba 5 years ago it was the best mouse that I could buy back then they still didnt changed they are still making the best mouse for me.Good Quality / Good Sensor / Beautifull design.
True, I had the mamba for 10 years and switched to the viper v2 pro for a change lol
@@nodinodi5917 Liar
At least Razer has much better build quality compared to Logitech, but still price gouging. Only bought my Orochi V2 on sale at 50 USD instead of 70 usd. Cuz that is what it's worth, add in 25 USD for a pack of 4 AAA pale blue rechargeable batteries (7g) and 5 USD for a pack of AAA to AA adapters and my mouse ended up costing 80 USD. I'm fine with it but at 70 usd Orochi V2 would have costed me 100 USD and it ain't worth that with a 3369 sensor!
@@Frencho9 Have you used a gpw or g303. Logitech is s teir with razor. I will say they def could used better switchis and type c but the engineering is top notch compared to cheaper brands. There are alor of solid and great wireless mice but I think gpwx and viper v2 pro are def top 2 imo. But to each their own. Not everyone can afford a 250 final mouse.
@@8bitsamurai6 Screw that main button side play on the G Pro X Superlight and Micro USB (kill it with fire!) yet people pay up to 160$ for that! G Pro Superlight users are like Apple fanatics bragging about their 2016 apple MacBooks with butterfly switch keyboards that break all the time and so thin, light and quiet they are toasters constantly thermal throttling but hey those products are more a status symbol or whatever they come up with as a coping mechanism 🤣. Also honestly I don't like the shape much. As a clawer Orochi V2, Xtrify M42 or XM1/2 (too big now tough) gang me be!
Overpriced and I miss the dock, but so far loving the V2. The lighter weight is very nice, and I feel like the buttons (especially the side) are much better feeling when clicking them. Mouse scroll is still meh.
I feel like the dock (and all rechargeable mice) should just be Qi wireless charging by now.
when u want to buy the best tech possible product it is expected te be expensive, i mean the sensor and switch
The problem is that you can get the viper ultimate for half the price.
@@kerotomas1 if the $70 more is an issue I would just get the original.
The 2 side buttons that are missing is deal breaker for me plus u can get the ultimate for 70 at gamestop, this 140 really doesnt make sense at all
Despite the improvement on the feet aka being bigger, *I'D LOVE* if all companies focus on making bigger feet/indents. With GPX/G303SE/Zowie/XM1 you can always put smaller feet if you want, but indents on most mice being so small we don't have the luxury of the vice versa, using bigger feet. I hate Xtrfy's tiny feet, i hate RVU small feet. Just do what Endgame gear did - make bigger indents. You get to choose between smaller feet of OG Xm1 or the bigger Zowie-like feet of the newer. I am pretty sure that you even get 1 big and 1 small pair inside the box.
The XTRFY M42W has huge feet .. on the opposite my Finalmouse has 4 essentially dots. My GOAT is still GPX and I'm using this V2 Pro. I'd say it's more about your mouse pads' surface than the per se size of their feet.
I prefer a hard surface in my instance. A solid aluminum core covered with PVC with PTFE or glass skates.
There's never going to be a mouse that's going to suit every person's needs.
@@DJaquithFL well said to each their own. The gpx is also my goat but really like the vu aswell. Just opened my v2 pro thi cant wait to test. Really wish theyd make a viper minu ultimate and pro version. Such a great size and shape even for bigger hands. Just getting into pads. Any recommendations?
@@8bitsamurai6 .. I play at what some people consider an insane DPI .. 5400 and all I play is CoD Hardcore. Hardcore is about the fastest 1st shot.
That said there's a really good recent comparison of Artisan mousepads from a smaller YT'er .. Good Enough Tech Reviews and it's probably one of the best compare and contrast reviews I've seen. Artisan are a safe bet.
I primarily like aluminum core PVC covered mouse pads. Examples Corsair M600, Razer Invicta Gaming Mouse Pad, Blade Hawks Gaming W Double-Sided Aluminum. None of them are for sale anymore.
I have a Logitech G Powerplay Wireless Charging System pad still sitting in the box unopened, but it will wirelessly charge your GPX and it's still considered a hard surface pad or at least it's supposed to be. I'm getting ready to swap out a new keyboard and rewire my office so that's the reason still sitting in the box.
First, amazing review and quality content here. Secondly, well done handling drama. There's no need to be unprofessional if you don't agree with others and you just modeled how to be respectfully humble. Thank you so much for all you're hard work! 🙏👍
could you tell me what the drama is?
@@mattyn7029 there was a RUclipsr that told his audience to unsubscribe from others if they gave this mouse a glowing review. It was a low blow to others and really unprofessional.
@@VietGuy03 damn😂
"if you follow me you aren't allowed to listen to anyone else's opinions" is a weird stance to take
@@mattyn7029 It was randomfrankp lol
I agree with weight not being much of an issue anymore. They can't make them much lighter than this and plus weight was always a personal preference for people anyway. I always liked the mice that let you adjust the weight of the mouse with included weights so you could get that perfect feel
Good guy Dmitri recommending other RUclipsrs to get a more varied opinion on the product instead of shutting others off because they have a different opinion.
You're right about the weight difference being noticeable. I notice it with my g pro vs superlight, It makes holding the mouse more natural and effortless. And I prefer razer's flatter shape. So I'd love this mouse if ambidextrous with no right side buttons wasn't such an annoying trend, because if you're used with doing important stuff in-game with them, then the use for such a mouse is rather limited. As it is, I'd rather get 2 more ultimates for the price of one of these, before everyone saves a few bucks on 2 switches and you can't get proper ambi mice anywhere.
my guy, PLEASE ANSWER ME, what resolution did you use in that cs:go clip at 2:55 ???
The price is steep for sure, but same for Logi.
Just started testing it and compare it to the Viper Ult, and I have to say that I really don't miss the side grips as I thought initially. Also, the lack of RGB is a good thing for me as the battery life won't be affected :)
People that cry over the price don’t know what it feels like to see scalper prices for a Starlight 12
Got the v2 pro today since my viper ultimate has trouble charging on the dock. Played some valorant with it already. I’m loving what I feel. Shape seems identical to the ultimate. And you for sure feel the weight difference. I use it on a firefly hard mouse pad and the tracking and smoothness is perfect. I’m glad I upgraded.
Yo where'd you get it from if you're in India, I can't find it anywhere :/ also the charging dock is really unreliable on my ultimate too
@@akshithnair578 I got it from Best Buy. I’m in California
@@megasanjay ah damn
@@akshithnair578 Time to fly US and be Indian American.
I sometimes rewatch your sponsor segments just to appreciate the quality,don't have to worry about skipping them.
Thank you for actually reviewing the mouse vs complaining about the price the entire video! While, sure, Razer could have probably charged a bit less, at the end of the day it is the consumer who makes the decision to spend their money. Besides, a year from now there will be good discounts anyway, and this review will actually help them determine if it is a good product 👍
Props for the shout-outs to your competitors (sometimes collaborators)!
Can we get some love for the smaller reviewers? Some of them are GOATED when it comes to this topic.
Fresh Reviews, Haus gaming, Chad alt delete, Hardware unplugged, Good enough tech reviews, Jaypher
Good list. Chad Alt Delete stands out as one of the most underrated YT'ers I've ever stumbled across.
@@1njustice Agreed, his videos are insanely underrated.
The viper was my first true gaming mouse, but I went to a death adder v2 pro. I love it because of its shape
I have the Roccat Burst Pro, Razer Deathadder V2 and Logitech G305. Personally I think that the shape of the Deathadder is a bit weird as it tilts your horizontal aim to the left, if gripped as intended by the company.
Bought the viper ultimate few months back for $63 bucks. With hyperglides feet. The glide on surface feels light but you will still notice the weight when you lift the mouse, coming from mm710. I do really enjoy the wireless convenience as I daily driver it not to mention the being able to put the dongle inside is such a plus for portability. I think the discounted viper ultimate with some hyperglide feet would make most average consumer happy and you just have to pay a bit more for the dock. I personally have no use for the dock since i just charge the mouse overnight when necessary. Battery easily last 4 to 5 days with regular use.
Can confirm after 2 years battery needs to be charged every other day
a much more 360 overview, appreciate the effort and the content
What mouse pad do you off on the shots, it looks sick
I just got the Viper Ultimate for $30 and Basilisk Ultimate with dock on sale for $70. Not going to pay $150 for the V2 Pro when I got 2 great mice for less. I don't game professionally, so not going to stress it out.
Viper Ultimate for fps, Basilisk Ultimate for others.
Thank you so much for the review, it was unbiased and really helpful. I've noticed most of the issues come with the price, but I guess if you can pick it up on sale it's a good FPS mouse option. I recently picked it up for 99 usd, I was looking for a lightweight FPS focused mouse with a USB charging port. I'm excited to test it out when it comes in, in Ow, Valorant and League.
What is the name of mouse mat ? @3:20 and where to get one. Thanks
Reviewers need to focus on what are the best peripherals etc and let the audience, consumers, decide if it's worth the price. Pandering to people because of their reaction to prices and making excuses about it is a complete disservice.
I have every good wireless mouse and too many wired and this new V2 Pro wireless is top tier, it's not my GOAT but it's close.
Funnily enough, I got my Logitech GPX Superlight for a discount and absolutely love it. A friend got the Viper Ultimate V1 for slightly less and honestly I understand the price tag drama bit, but mice as a whole are nowhere near the priciest part of a setup to get arguably something top of the line. This new iteration of the Viper V2 is one I'd really like to try, but feel like the Superlight is too similar, other than the shape.
do you think the Razer Naga Pro is only ok because you dont get the feeling of a modern lightweight focused mouse? like all of the beenfits from feeling go to the diverse use? I've only ever used razer naga mice, and want a naga pro but im interested in some of these light mouses, but i've never had one
I can't find use for all the buttons on the Naga series. I would prioritize comfy side grip over the button array. But you do you
so its okay for logitech to do it but when its razer there is a problem ?
wow its like Orochi v2 and Viper ultimate had a child, I am definetly buying it. I just can't stand Viper Ultimate's extra features that is why it is not perfecly balance. I also don't like super light because I don't like the shape, I prefer Viper Ultiamte so I step backed and mained Orochi v2. Now finally Razer updated the viper ultimate without the mandatory placing a grip tape and without the charging dock feature that is really annoys me when gets dirty it can be picky on how oyu will place the mouse on the charging dock. Now it supports type c it will charge better and it may have a better performance while using the cable.
Hey Dmitry, as a CSGO player which team do you think will win the PGL Major?
You won 🎉
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Excellent review and commentary.
Thank you so much!
Razer RMA support for Canadians is terrible.
The Agents don't read, ask the same questions over despite being answered and when they finally determine your product is defective, their advanced replacement option is in USD. When I asked them how much the hold would be, they quoted the price on the invoice without looking at the fact my invoice had other transactions on it. Another agent responded saying I'd only have to pay the MSRP for my device when I bought it at 91.99 (after Tax). I ended up accepting the advanced repair option - AFTER being ensured it wouldn't be any more than I paid for the controller, I accepted the advanced repair service. On receiving the information for the hold, they had the total price of 91.99 in USD, which is about 115-120 CAD.
I've done Cell phone tech support & RMA before so I understand some of the possible issues, however it's ridiculous that I'd let them take a hold for 35 dollars more than I actually paid for the device. Even with the higher price of cell phones, we only held a fraction of the device price.
For those curious, it was a wolverine v2 controller and it failed after 6 months with one of the buttons just not accepting input. I enjoyed the controller while it lasted but between the terrible support, ridiculous RMA options and a product that broke in half the time of the warranty, I'll never buy another Razer product. This mouse may be nice but where you guys are fellow Canadians, I figured other Canadians might benefit from this information as warranty service can often be a factor in making purchases.
Corsair support was amazing. I broke the bracket for the H115i pump and they shipped out a whole new set of brackets for any chipset - Free. I also had 2 led strips fail and instead of asking me to send in the defective strips, they just sent out another package of 4 strips, leaving me with 2 extra. Amazing RMA support from Corsair especially considering the strips cost almost as much as the Razer controller I had go defective.
Step up your game Razer.
If anything... this makes the previous model that much more desirable if you can get it at almost half the price, and have it include so much more features. However, this mouse is for a specific enthusiast that will find value in it. I'm absolutely not it, but it made me value the older tech more.
At this point - the GPX if you prefer the Logitech shape, the Viper V2 if you prefer the Razer shape. I wanted to love the Razer shape, but for me the Logitech was just more comfortable.
Who else thought he was going to talk about the randomfrankp "drama"?
Edit: Nvm he did a subtle mention of it...
Ultimate(without the dock) and v2 pro was at the same price at my country so I picked the v2 pro did I made the correct decision?
About the price tag drama, Both the G Pro X Superlight and V2 Pro Viper are overpriced at 160/150 USD, they are cutting down on features and cost (less raw materials and production costs!) compared to the luxury originals. And in the case of GPRO X build quality is garbage to add insult to injury! Would you like to pay more for a consumer Sedan car that is lacking the entire AC system, the car interior lights, also the back seats and the charger outlet/port in the trunk because it is lighter for amateur street racing? SteelSeries is the worst cause they charge 130/140/150 USD for the Prime and Aerox 5/9 wireless mice and they have a 3335 BUDGET sensor and are bricks! The EndgameGear XM2 wireless at 120 USD is the only fair pricing for a top tier PRO Competitive mouse! Then 80 to 100 USD is fine for high end 3370 wireless mice like Xtrify M42/M4, Roccat Burst Pro Air, Pulsar Xlite V2, Fnatic bolt or Glorious mice as they don't have the latest sensors unlike XM2w, G Pro Superlight and Viper V2 Pro which should all cost 120 USD MAX! And these pricing considering the supply chain issues are fair, still margin for profits, but not enough for ripping off the consumer! And to be fair both Logitech and Razer have enough economies of scale to lower costs to 100-110 usd compared to small Endgame Gear who needs to sell at 120 (and the build quality of XM1r is better!)
Why are all of the reviewers glossing over the texture on this mouse? Once I started using it, it was one of my favorite things about it. It's very similar to the cat's tongue roughness they use on hard plastic gun grips. Ignores sweat and provides good grip. They really dialed the texture in well to balance between how grippy it is and how abrasive it is for long sessions. It's right in the grippiest it can be without being too rough.
Great review! Please drop the review on the xtrfy k5😭. I see that tease
i think i agree with randomfrankp that most ppl might want to buy the original for half the price and it comes with a dock. its just confusing that they take away features but dont lower the price
To understand it, you need to understand what competitive shooter at highest level is about.
@@joejoe5921 that's very true and I'm not that demo so it's not for me I guess
It might just be in my head but I feel like the wireless on the Viper V2 pro is a little more responsive than anything we’ve had so far. It might just be a side effect of the 30k sensor too.
Check Optimum's overview on the new tech Razer has been using. It's really cool stuff.
exactly. a lower price point for the removed specs to achieve the lower weight would blow logitech's super light out of the park. at least in terms of competing for value for money. and it still retains the value of the other vipers like the ultimate, having features. if you say it's for the pros that do not want those features, don't tell me they would not want their pro mice to be affordable af.
does Razer Viper V2 need razer's proprietary USB C cable to connect? Or can you use any USB C cable lying around? Razer, and even Ninjutso are dirty to make the fitting for the connection SLIGHLY smaller so that ONLY their cable fits
Never tried the Razer Viper before. I might give it a go, the V2 Version.
I just dont get it why lot of people comparing the price for the razer viper ultimate now since its an older model of course its cheaper
Is it lighter than the superlight now?
Firstly purchased Viper V2 Pro, however I was not satisfied with the mouse quality. It just looks and felt cheap for its expensive price. So I returned it and went with Ultimate with Dock, in final it was a lot cheaper, more comfortable for charging with dock with the nice indication of charging.
I used apple devices on the daily basis, play only a couple of hours per week and with the mouse on dock, I'm always sure that mouse is charged, I can pick up it anytime and just start to play without messing with cables.
So far only one minus - mini USB cable, I would rather prefer USB type C, and better look of the dock station when the mouse is not on it
I have a Logitech that got double clicking after 14 months, so I wanted something with optical switches. Rtings said this is the best mouse you can buy, and it was $50 off so I ordered it.
I just got this mouse yesterday and I love it. I don't care about RGB. The price is a little high but it's the best mouse available imo, so it's kind of worth it. The 30K sensor is great and has sped up my use of dual monitors. The only shortcoming in my eyes is that it can't run 8khz polling in the wired mode. It feels solid, light, accurate and works well. I give it a thumbs up!
I think kept it at 1000Hz coz 8k polling rate will significantly reduce the battery life
@@ItsZim0 he said 8khz in wired mode
aint 8khz would make it super sensitive, how do you even use that
It isn't discernibly more accurate than anything from the past 5 plus years.
I'd consider it, if they offered a lifetime guarantee/replacement.
people should be aware that popular tech brands are ripping you off. there are lesser known brands that offer peripherals with similar specs and experience for much less cost.
Give an example please
@@keonxd8918 Recently I've been using switching between two wireless mice, one is the Tecware EXO Wireless and the other being RAKK Talan Air (RAKK is an asian brand). While both only cost you around 40$ sometimes you can buy them even cheaper, imo they easily offer the same experience as a mouse from Glorious (yes I've tried a couple of glorious mice before). As for keyboards, customs built mech keyboards what i recommend the most. With little effort and research, you can easily build a 100$ mech keyboard that could fit your preferences (layout, sound profile, etc.). Hotswap keyboards nowadays are cheap some are selling around 40$ and yet they already offer multiple connectivity and have good sound dampening. As for switches, there are a lot of sellers that sell switches that are already lubed. Lubed Milky yellows for example sell around 20$ for 100 pieces. For keycaps there are as lot of choices and some sell really cheap but for a good set of cherry profile keycaps, you can find them at around 30-40$. And what keyboard does popular tech brands offer for 100$? Clicky rattly pingy garbage keyboards with ugly build and random useless features.
I'm not really a fan of Razers mice. They just aren't my thing. I can see why people like them, but they just aren't for me. That said I always watch your reviews, so I know something about them if a friend may ask me about it.
And damn, the sponsorship transition was smooth!
This is an awesome mouse, but I would most definitely not buy it for $150.
I've had the Viper Ultimate since launch, and it has been completely flawless and gives me extreme edge in gaming. So I clicked this video immediately.
Same with me and I just got my V2 Pro today - I absolutely love it! Though I do miss the side grips :(
@@Dylan_Shaw mine side grips started to wear on the thumb area so I ended up wrapping nearly the entire mouse in Goon Tape (for guns) and it made my aiming flawless in FPS games
@@SharkByteOfficial Haha that sounds wicked. I'll keep that in mind if my rubber ever wears off.
@@Dylan_Shaw yeah all the added grip made me cramp less during intense sessions and overall created a lighter feel. It's so worth it
Are they going to plan on making this smaller?
does it automatically suspend after a while without using it?
Is going for white colour bad decision?
Thought it said deal alert? Bummer. Agree the shroud g303 is made and feels so well done but hust not a fan of the shape and sharp edges in the back. Everything else on it is perfect tho. The clicks feel so good.
kind feedback. it would be nice to include sound test of tis buttons
Wait on the endgame xm2w mouse ya razer need to lower it or it’s not going to sell
Did they fix the scroll wheel issues? I had 2 basilisk ultimates and both would skip scrolls steps/double scroll at certain points of the scroll wheel
I've owned the basilisk ultimate and had similar issues. It has to do with the weird scroll wheel tension system on the baslisk. The vipers don't have that tensioner and so it has no issues.
Surprisingly I haven't had these issues but I own a basilisk v2 guess the v2 doesn't suffer from it
My viper ultimate started left clicking on it's own 3 days before warranty ran out, exchanged it for g ro x superlight, the new v2 looks great so it was a toss up but swapped to logi because anecdotally battery life is great, viper has mushy clicks (v2 is somewhat improved though), viper takes a while to wake up from sleep (you get used to it but eh) and the G pro x is so universally loved I just gotta see why, also the logitech is cheaper by $40aud!
At least Viper 2 has USB-C charging, which is a huge wasted opportunity for Logi to not switching to it to its superlight mouse
Like this gaming mouse looks good. Its price also corresponds to this, which is much higher than I think. But I wonder how it is with accuracy and aiming in shooters?
And how are headshots distributed with her?
What about its longevity and quality?
So far I'm using this gaming mouse: Hama uRage Reaper neo sensitivity 3200 DPI
I bought this and honestly prefer my Viper Ultimate. Not because of the removal of RGB and the charging stand though.. I hate the new texture and the buttons take too much force to press in for my liking, especially the scroll wheel
And is the 59g weight of the v2 include the mouse w/grip added? Or is that without the included grip?
Its added
Was going to buy the v2 until i saw you vid, now i am gonna stick with the old one as i am a left handed user.
Just buy the viper ultimate if you want features, the viper v2 pro is for competitive gaming. The sheer engineering to get the mouse down to 58 grams with proper weight balance and the build quality as well as the novelty that comes with being the lightest gaming mouse avaible to the generel public. The people who are bashing razer for this are the same people who was praising logitech when the superlight came out, their whole argument is based on fallacies wheter they like it or not.
Yeah Razer saw that Logitech got away with their price hikes, so they were like:
"Hey?! So we can charge more and consumers will just eat that crap up?"
"Let's go price hikeee!"
Unless I'm wrong, the tech inside a mouse isn''t exactly groundbreaking, how a sensor, some switches and wireless tech shrouded in plastic can go for this much I'll never understand!
A gaming mouse should be 50$ - 70$ max! Definitely not processor or motherboard money.
tbh, the Ultimate you get the bonus dock and turning off rgb was an option to get better battery life than the Pro V2. I would have loved to hear you state Razer “reduce the price by $70” (not like $10 in the audio) hehe 🤭 as the Razers Ultimate is the key competitor to the Viper V2 Pro 👍🤩 at a much better price and feature set. I’d personally spend the extra $30-40 for the Finalmouse Starlight which offers a much lighter frame, unique body material, vg battery life than the Pro V2. While I agree the V2 Pro is a nice mouse, it’s not worth anywhere near its currents price…. Just a cash grab 🤬🤕! The Superlight by Logitech too is way overpriced to justify.
I'm keep a buck with the people saying the price is too much if you can justify buying a logitech superlight (the best wireless mouse in the market you can justify buying a viper v2 pro) I do understand why people are complaining but that price is for paying a premium prince for fantastic sensor great shape if you are a finger tip or claw user (wouldn't recommend it for palm grip however if you want good ergo or palm grip mouse deathader v3 pro is fantastic)
Just call it Viper Lite and no drama. Or call it Viper Air and enjoy the endless trolling from Apple fanboys who believe Apple invented the word air.
I think it's fine. As long as they keep the old RVU then who cares? Pick the one that suits you best. The V2 Pro is targeted at the competitive player and that category won't sell as much. I would bet any money it comes down in the next year. Honestly, I would rather pay more for higher performance personally. Also, it always costs more to switch up tooling at the beginning, it's not just materials.
I'm not saying it's fairly priced. On the high side I would say even 125$ for it at the beginning would be acceptable. Then over time they lower it.
Tbh..... I almost instantly grabbed one even at that price.
But I wanted more of the same, better. Not this- less is more nonsense.
I have spend a few thousand dollars on logitech mice. Every single one of them dies the exact same way. The right click registers stickily and randomly does double clicks. I bought a viper ultimate over a year ago. No problems at all whatsoever. Only complaint would be the slow startup from autosleep.
You won 🎉
Ok so i have the razer mamba elite and its fits me perfect, im 5’6 125 so im not big so im debating on getting the death adder v3 pro or viper v2. Which one is closest to the size of the razer mamba elite
Does the viper v2 pro feels smaller than the g pro x superlight?
5:04 actual testing from other reviewers says otherwise. G pro X superlight has better battery life than RVU V2, unless you are only basing it on the 70 and 80 hours specs listed by the companies.
If the quality reflects the price I have no problem paying for it. It’s a premium mouse and is priced as such. I got both the viper and g pro x and if anything the g pro is overpriced. The build quality is inferior to the viper by a considerable margin
You're exaggerating, the G Pro X is of excellent build quality, at least my batch. Unless Logitech sells a crappy version in your country.
What in particular do you view inferior?
@@outlaw6313 The plastic feels very cheap compared to the ultimate and the clicks don’t feel as nice or refined to me. Logitechs software is much better tho. Micro usb is garbage tear on both mice. I much prefer the shape of the ultimate but that’s just me. I bought the ultimate first and then later bought the g pro x but eventually put the g pro x away and have been using the ultimate since… the g pro x is a bit lighter tho indeed
@@outlaw6313 I’m not a racer nut rider either I just like nice stuff and have products from both
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Reviewers are missing this because they dont use it long enough, but the viper v2 pro has dongle issues and it will just die on you randomly. mine died in less than 2 months. its everywhere. If you google 'viper v2 pro dongle issue', a ludicrous amount of people have been having their dongles die for over a year. its way too common a problem to hope that it wont happen to you. Dont buy this mouse unless you want to be stuck paying $20 every 2 months to buy a replacement dongle after your warranty expires.
I'll stick with my Xlite Wireless and OG Viper for now. The price ain't justified though I really would love the new features on this V2.
Happy with my orochi v2, very good performance, long battery life for what it delivers, smaller size for small hands/claw grippers and the price is just right.
This one looks really appealing, but the price is a huge turn off
I went with the Razer Viper Ultimate. Simply because im left handed. It is really sad imo that left handed gamers get so little options. I mean, realistically I have two options. Screw the sidebuttons and get accustomed to a mouse that doesnt really fit my hand, because thumb resting positions are all on the left side, or go with the g pro (non superlight)/ Razer viper ultimate, the latter of I did, since wireless is a thing I want and the loading dock is something I wanted as well, since it eliminates the possibility of the battery dying mid game, because once you turn the pc off you simply put the mouse on the dock. So yeah, the v2 is nice, its in essence a lighter, one handed ultimate (I dont even use the rgb on mine, so maybe i can mod my mouse and remove all of that to make mine lighter).
TLDR.: me lefty, so ultimate still better for me than v2 pro.
As a person who bought the viper mini and loved it, then went and bought the g502 lightspeed. I personally do not see why people are so caught up on weight. The g502 is slightly heavy, it would be awesome if Logitech refreshed it and made it under 100g. But at this point, losing features for weight is so stupid to me, which is why I also dislike honeycomb. I would love it if Logitech or razer or someone made a mouse with 4 side buttons and under 100g, either a viper or a g pro.
I'm on your reverse side, hahah. I was a G502 user for 8 years, practically since the first release. I thought it was the perfect mouse for me and I loved it so much. I played thousands of hours of Dota 2 & World of Tanks with that mouse. But now I'm trying viper mini for FPS games like Valorant, and I honestly couldn't go back to the bigger & heavier G502. I could gaming & also working long hours on my pc without feeling tired on my wrist. I have to sacrifice the ultrafast scrolling I used to love so much tho :')
@@pisangijo419 I ditched the viper mini because I wanted more buttons for my thumb, two is such a low amount. I have 0 interest in pvp so for me the hype for “pro” mice is moot. I prefer to get into a game and not have to worry about having to use different buttons on the keyboard.
Maybe longer play sessions will reveal something to me as to why less weight is better. But considering this isn’t my first heavy gaming mouse, idk. Before the mini I’ve had naga epic’s since the first one came out and I loved the 12 buttons for the thumb, but for other games outside of mmos and literally any game with a tool bar. It was too much.
Casual gamers are not the target demographic
I would just like to see an angled ergo mouse and light. I have bad wrists they always pop. Any recommendations would be appreciated but all I found were cheapies.
Boardzy deserves a shoutout
You won.
I actually kinda like that my Razer doesn't have RGB. at first I didn't. I'd prefer if it came with it but then I thought about the battery, like Dmitiry said..
From a cost to performance ratio, I probably won't leave the Glorious family for a while. All of my razer and logitech mice start having double click issues and my Glorious mice just keep working flawlessly
No way it outlasts the GPX in battery life... GPX has 240mah and Viper has 300mah but the Viper has a hungrier sensor and optical switches. Did you actually test them?
I was gonna say that the G pro probably charges faster and has better battery life so there's that
At this point, I just want Razer to make a Viper mini wireless.
have you send him a message ? seems like you already got the first place
So I really like the ultimate .. finally found a end game mouse in my opinion.. the weight is not a probably for me and the extra side buttons isn’t a bother.. I like the rgb..
Finally, was waiting for your take on this one.
What I found ironic is that those who say it costs too much don't complain/are fine with/own a superlight which is nearly the same price.
The side buttons were a big pain on original viper. I couldn't stand them so switched to mini.
The Razer Viper Mini is still the best Razer mouse for FPS, with the best price point. The wireless Viper Mini Pro will continue the trend of the best Razer FPS mouse with the best price point.
Abrasive plastic O ring around the sensor, pretty rigid cable, below average clicks, heavy for it's size... If that's the best one, Razer has lot's too improve.
@@iagher Those are subjective flaws. No mouse is perfect. Optical switches will never feel as good as mechanical switches. Stock cables will never feels as good as custom paracord cables. The Viper Mini is ranked and sold right next to the Viper and other top gaming mice twice its price. Yes, Razer could and should improve the Viper Mini. But having room for improvement doesn't make something bad.