Razer just Killed their Best Gaming Mouse
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- The Razer Viper Mini is probably the best Razer gaming mouse but guess what? The Viper Mini has been discontinued. In its place is the Razer Cobra and I'm really not OK with that. Let's talk about what this means.
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0:00 - RIP Viper Mini
0"29 - Why the Viper Mini was the GOAT
1:32 - WTF is the Cobra?
2:25 - Cobra Pro is so "Immersive"
3:19 - But THIS is a Good Keyboard
3:49 - Viper Mini quietly is taken out
6:03 - Viper Mini Signature Edition is NOT a replacement
6:59 - The Wrong direction for Razer
7:57 - Gaming with the new Cobra Pro
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I don't understand why Razer can't simply release a Viper Mini with updated internals and slight weight reduction for $59 and $79 wired/wireless. Literally no one asked for the cobra.
In an ideal word. They did release a viper mini wireless with up dated internals. Your expecting these to be that cheap? Common be realistic
so they can bundled the thing you really want like a wireless Viper mini with a lot of stuff that you don't need like wireless charging, all around RGB etc to have a higher price
i think it is all just a business move to push loyal fans of the Viper mini on to a more expansive product and only release the good stuff that have actual mass market potential after the sell slow down, this is a classic move and companies do this all the time for well like product.
so my guess is that sometime in the future razer will give us a wireless cobra that don't have all the fancy stuff for a lot cheaper
Less profitable and mouses like the Cobra sell like hotcakes at big box stores usually
@@DEANluxray
Why not? Wired DAV3 is $69 and that required new tooling, marketing, R&D etc.
Bcz they want to charge more, and the initial impression of mini line is budget mouse, so they have to make a new one since logically speaking, it's a different lineup even if it's exactly the same so they can over chr0arge people
Really disappointing how they promised something in r/mousereview and proceeded to deliver a completely different product that no one asked for.
Why else would they make a whole new product? To please the investors of Razer of course...
3 different products from what everyone wanted.
You realize Reddit isn't the main source of profit, right? it's a loud minority!
@@profosist true but they came to Reddit saying the viper mini products will please the niche market as well as the mainstream. They managed to displease the niche market and in time we'll see if they didn't do so well with the mainstream market (I doubt they will)
@@flashjor98 I'd say in their eyes the signature pleases the niches market. There's also quite a number of people that this exact mouse is perfect for. Ofter is people that game but do more with their PC than just game.
I'm glad all outlets are in agreement, this was a huge miss! This release alienates the core fan base of the Mini by overcasualizing the iconic shape. Too much fluff and weight for it's size, for a 2023 release.And the funny thing is they could have made a true V2 Pro with less 'features' and the same price and made more $ per unit 💀
too weak to lift 77g?
@@adriannasyraf3534The predecessor was 58g. This mouse is a straight up downgrade
When i saw that people really want light mouse, i used to think that they are overreacting.
Then i thought that maybe i have a light mouse, thats why i dont know what are the problems faced by heavy mouse users.
Then i checked the weight of my $3 mouse...and guess what!!
...it was 120gm 😁😁
What i thought was a light mouse actually was a pretty heavy one, and i am totally comfortable with it and play fps games easily with it.
@@omegaPhix I saw on rtings that its weight is 57.3gm.
@@abcdefgh6121 Even worse and you're straight up capping if you say you're good at fps with a $3 120g mouse
During the release of the Viper Mini SE, Razer reps specifically answered "summer" when asked "When will we get a standard Viper Mini Wireless".
They've gone back to being stupid.
How hard is to make a wireless viper mini?
Apparently for Razer it was impossible lol!
You mean like the signature?
@@profosistlike the signature, but plastic, $70 and without fking limited existences.
They did, it’s just called a Cobra.
They did. Its called Cobra
Cheers for this video, razer doing this is just a typical profit taking move. Wanting to upsell some rgb bloated garbage.... Personally I love the viper mini (wired), got two of them, one for the benchmark setup and one for main editing rig. The snap master's mouse of choice. Might have to head down my local electronics store and stock up on them lol, the new cobra going to be double the price me thinks.
I'm seriously considering getting a new one just as a replacement for when mine breaks. It cost me 28$ new 6 months ago!
I'm also using a viper mini. My hands are small, so it is the perfect fit. Also the extra RGB and a really affordable price (like $25 in my country) made it an absolute killer deal.
Razer: Here's a new keyboard XYZ
Consumer: *Buys*
Consumer: Cannot use the Enter key
Razer: Enter key is DLC, 500 Razer coins
Flashbacks from ea
I have used a lot of different mouse over the years and Viper Mini is the only one which I loved. It fits perfectly in my hand and felt really great not just gaming but in general use too. I just want a simple wireless version without any fluff.
razer basilisk, my favorite mouse, its cheaper then then the viper (at least here it is) the wired and the wireless version is great, the wireless one no frills just a great mouse that fits ,y hand great and replaceable that lasts for ages
@@peteg1696it’s a completely different shape and weighs a ton more…. Yeah it’s cheap and reliable but is not what we were asking for :( small symmetrical lightweight mouse with the great razor sensor and switches
I found lamzu atlantis mini to have a very similar shape, but it fits my 18.5x9.5 hand even better. It has holes on the bottom and it’s not as advanced in terms of tech as Viper V2 Pro, but the shape is just amazing and it weighs pretty much the same as Viper Mini SE. I think anyone who wants a wireless Viper Mini should consider Atlantis Mini
@@alexp3577i switch to lamzu mini too because i loved the viper mini. Very good alternative of viper mini wireless. ❤
viper had terrible side buttons so cobra may be better if it holds up
Long story short, I've used Viper Mini for 1.5 years. Sold it, prices went up. I recently wanted to buy one as I miss it so much. I was performing with the Viper Mini the best in Valorant (immo 3). Now, it's discountinued and I've felt so sad that I couldn't buy one anywhere and there it was, one store in the whole country with 3 pieces. I immediately went and picked one up. I may regret to not pick up two actually. As I've tried the Cobra (wired) and it's AWFUL. They did kill the Viper Mini. ALL THE COMMUNITY wanted a WIRELESS VIPER MINI. Then Razer comes and say, nah... We don't want that. Well, let's see who is going to end the upcoming years with worse profit than before. DAV3 / DAV3 Pro is also a failure, nobody buys it, and those who buy it sells it. Pros are turning away from them as well. The Cobra is a failure too. You had one HUUUUGE chance Razer.. You blew it.
Dafuq the DV3 is amazing and alot of people love it ? Also which pros return it ? So far in Valorant many play it xD
I want the Viper mini wireless as well but don't talk nonsense about the DV3 pls
I have the Viper Mini. Just wondering, how did the Cobra (wired) feel compared to the Viper mini?
Why cobra wired is awful? Isn't the same as viper mini?
I love my viper mini so much, I managed to actually find people who were making custom pcbs and modifying the base so that it would work with Logitech sensors, in order to make a WIRELESS VIPER MINI.
Its at a point where some random etsy store has made a better product than razers own implementation…
You got a link to this? That sounds awesome
I'm interested in learning more in how you were able to do this
i've had my first gen viper mini since release and its missing the left mouse click cover. im using the middle tiny button above the scroll wheel as my left click please help. i need to find a better mouse that has a mini form factor because i have small hands and autism makes it hard for me to handle bigger mice thank u
interesting insight on the charging dock statistic. I think Razer shld make a performance focus line with wireless charging, noRGB. Make it 60-69g. Boom win win
Can't have that there is reason why the pro versions of the Death Adder and Viper are stripped down as far as they are. Also there are people out there that want more buttons features and heck even RGB it's two different markets razer is one of the few brands that plays both at the high end.
Its very simple, if they just continue the mini line, since its a budget mouse, they cant really charge high price for the wireless version, mos5 they can do is probably 80 to 90 dollars since its basically the same design, but with a new name, they can just claim its a new series and charge 120 to 150 dollars or even more for limited edition
viper mini signature edition = $280
Great content as always Dimitri. I was never a fan of Razer products but was won over by the viper V2 pro and it's been my main now for months. Looks like their high price tactics and unwanted products are back and that really puts me off future releases.
i'm watching this video as my viper mini's left click stopped working. i want to purchase the same mouse again but viper mini is out of stock. should i go for cobra or look for some other mouse?
i think it might have been because they couldn’t find a right price for the viper mini wireless, if they charged it at like 80 bucks with the same spec and connectivity as the v2 pro maybe the pro would sell and everyone would buy mini, but if they charged like 120-140 people would complain that the reason why the original mini was good because of the price and now it’s too expensive. i think they should’ve launched the mini wireless at 100
Where can you find out beforehand about upcoming VMSE drops? Cheers for telling us about the 22nd., I'll be trying my luck.
Where did you find out about the Razer Viper Signature release on the 22nd?
Does buying a new Razer viper mini will be worth to keep it as a collection or are the prices gonna go up ?
Looking for a new mouse, got a Viper Mini and would like something similar, braided cable, small and lightweight. I was looking for the Cobra, but I heard it's like the mini but cheaper in terms of quality any suggestions for me ? The scroll wheel is horrible, clicking and scrolling, annoying sound while scrolling and the click is hard and not constant.
Not sure I need to replace my Orochi v2 for a long time. I love it
Completely different shape and size. I do have the Orochi in my laptop bag but no way can I daily that thing (no was it ever really designed for that)
So July 21st for the Viper Signature Series on Razers website??
What is the guard on your right arm for ? I've had a logitech mouse for about 10 years, I like bigger heavier mice
Gaming arm sleeve. Less friction when moving the mouse around.
Whoever made the decision at the top of the chain really missed out on a hell of a lot of $$$ with this one and also betrayed the trust of not only the public but some representatives who made the promises in r/mousereview
Very disappointed to not see a true wireless successor. I did however get the Cobra wired. Better switches, LOD is fixed, Cable feels less stiff. I feel the $40 is fine but wish they did more. I wouldn’t mind paying $50 if they upgraded the sensor but then again i didn’t have issues with the original Viper Mini other than the LOD.
All they had to do is make two versions of some popular shapes: Pro for low weight, no dock, no rgb. And Ultimate for medium weight, dock support and lots of RGB.
Another odd thing is that Cobra/Viper mini shape is definitely loved by performance focused players, so it’s a big miss. What would make more sense is to make Viper V2 Ultimate, with basically all the features of Cobra Pro, but it would also cause no backlash, since performance focused players already have an option to get Viper V2 Pro if they like that shape.
I’m shocked and surprised that they didn’t increase the price of the wired Cobra. I would have thought that would have been reason number 1 for this change.
Scroll wheel feels kind of poop but otherwise it seems like a decent Mouse I picked it up just to see if it's still a good budget offering
Just ordered a Viper mini only 2 in stock when I looked on Amazon, I was waiting for a "better" Viper Mini generation but it seems that wont be happening
They have not released any more white/mercury keyboards either after huntsman mini. It is excellent but years later, I still have sticky keys (software) issue
on my second razer viper mini, same issue with the middle button click, pretty much clicks every other time now after 4-5 months of use
damn i was expecting Viper Mini Wireless that might be on par with G304 (same price or smth)
Really happy I managed to pick up a viper mini a few months ago. Very happy with it. The cobra pro is weighed down though. Disappointed by that. Glad I saw your video. I was v confused by the cobra line.
I have been waiting so long for a updated orochi mouse, an upgrade from the v2 and hopefully with the new focus pro pixart sensor and usb c charging instead of batteries
Honestly I’ve always been a fan of the Naga trinity because of the interchangeable thumb button pads. Reading up on it the naga trinity seems to have tons of reviews where it start double click after only 3 months which is exactly what happened to me. I wish them made that mouse but as a mini and got the double clicking sorted out.
What even is the use of "immersive" thingy? lmao. We just wanted a wireless Viper Mini not a Viper Mini 2x RGB
Ok so if my viper mini that I bought last year broke , am I still gonna get my warranty?
i love that"s Montech keyBoard so sexy, nice feeling !! BTW what was the video about ?
Doubt you will notice this, but the 2nd timestamp has a typo making it not active 0"29 vs 0:29
and the Viper V3 pro is nonsense aswell, they preferred to put in a bigger battery for people playing 4000 or more polling rates instead of working that weight a bit more. Literally none plays 2K+ polling rates. I'm fine with the actual viper shape but I do also feel like i'd gain a bit more accuracy (especially for small movements) with the mini shape, i'm equally disapointed by the Cobra which is too heavy for today's standards. About the Mini SE, why do they want to work magnesium so badly? I'm sure it'd be cheaper for them to try carbon based materials like graphene
Does the middle mouse button work on the new one? Thay would be an upgrade, it actually working...
It's still a tactile switch, unlike the other buttons. 😒
Is that a volleyboard arm guard? Looks cool.
I'd have to use it to see how well i like it, but if nothing else something i noticed instantly as someone who spent over a year with each is the Cobra shape reminds me of a scaled down (good thing imo) version of my Zowie. Shapes are a hard science and still loving my Viper, but at least the entry level Cobra is still at a good price, but for now i keep the Viper since honestly it was one of the best smash hits i ever found with mice even if technically its sensor is some small fraction inferior to other mice i own.
I purchased both Cooler Master MM-710/720 during Amazon prime sales this past week for the EXACT same reasons you stated. Am enjoying both mice tremendously. Razer be like ok, we got good products by listening now let's just doing own thing - instant failure.
running two viper ultimate and change switch when battery runout has been pretty good setup for me however would love to have a better dock to charge with
I'd have done this but my side button on my viper ultimate died
i'm rocking a mamba wireless with dock (yes the og mamba wireless from 2015) looking for a new mice...
My only issues with the Viper Mini was the shit lift-off distance and the lack of wireless. I tried the Orochi V2, and while I loved the shape, it was a bit too heavy and not rechargeable. The Pulsar X2 Mini ended up as my main, but I still feel like it's a bit too wide compared to the shape of the Viper. It's a shame...
Glorious model O minus is the mouse for you
I, like many others, fell in love with the Viper Mini shape when we got our hands on it. Optical switches and low weight (compared to GPX at the time). For the price, you couldn't beat it. So sad they went this route. We were patiently waiting. I have bought 3 copies in total and was looking forward to the wireless release, which never came. Swapped to Lamzu (Atlantis Mini). Never looked back.
Broo Dimitry's aim is inside, Good review bro
Same mouse apart from the biggest issue with the viper mini was fixed with the cobra being the lift off distance. Pretty big change imo.
I loved the viper mini for those few months before it started double-clicking (yes, just a few months - my old logitech g303 started to double-click after 6 years of playing every day for a few hours).
Using a Deathadder V2 mini with my laptop. Super comfy, love it.
i'm really lucky to get the viper mini 3 yrs ago and had been using it for my gaming rig since then. zero issues, took proper care. and with what razer had done to cobra.. i guess i will keep using this mouse for many more years to come!
I was tired of waiting for a viper mini wireless so I bought a mz1 and my aim greatly improved after the adjustment period. I highly recommend the mz1
Really wanted to like that but it was just too small. Also the cable design is garbage. Mine had the disconnect issues.
Would like to see a death adder se edition with the same specs as the viper mini se. That would be awesome, weird magnesium shell and all.
My personal favorite is the Razer Naga Hex v2. I will keep using mine until it falls apart. I can't believe they discontinued it.
Just an editing note I wanted to point out. It looks like you blurred your squad in Battlefield 1, I assume for privacy reasons, but didn't blur the chat in the upper left so when one of your squad mates requested ammo, you can clearly see the name. Not sure if it's that big of a deal, but figured if you blurred the whole squad, you probably would've also wanted the chat blurred. Specifically referencing 8:28
For the love of sweet baby jeebus. Could you review 120mm SLIM fans?
I think the reasoning behind Razer creating the Cobra product line instead of renaming to Viper Mini V2 pro or whatever was the introduction of the Viper V3 Hyperspeed. The V3 clearly is done with the form factor that the Viper Ultimate or the Viper V2 Pro has, and is trying to mimic the Logitech G Pro X form factor (since the superlight version saw better sales than the V2 Pro). So now, since the Viper line is going to a more GPX-like form factor from now on, Razer is mantaining the old Viper form factor through the Cobra line. It makes sense when you look at it this way.
creo yo que es porque le ven con más potencial al "viper mini" como su propia categoría, y para eso lo renombran a "cobra" para poder generar toda la gama, desde el pro, hasta el 8k wired, e incluso puede que en un futuro pueda llegar a haber el "cobra mini"
i dont think it would eat into the signature editions sales considering thats a limited edition and is basically sold out forever now
Got the viper mini 2years ago for less than $20 new best mouse I ever bought. Sad it's discontinued and price for the replacement is double 😢
Although I won't choose small mouse at all, the cobra reminds me few years ago what razer is doing, that is focus on rgb and some fancy stuff but not the performance, but logitech instead focus on the raw performance of the mouse, they just change back to what they used to....... I am a big fan of razer, but if they are going to this direction, it won't be good for them in long term:(
But people don't seem to understand is they have always been doing both things that was essentially the Ultimate line was the Chroma line and now the pro line for the Basilisk and Naga.
@@profosistno we all know that. but now they've taken a very popular mouse in the performance sector and remade it into a casualized rgb version. this is the main thing people dislike about the cobra and also is directly addressed in the video
@@ecapsdira original Viper mini was a cheap $40 mouse I wouldn't say it's in their "performance line"
@@profosist it was popular mouse for aim scenarios mostly because it was the best really cheap option for them and if you wanted a technical confirmation, a razer employee cleared up on discord that the viper and deathadder lines are made with competitive intent while the basilisk and naga (and now cobra) are made for the more mainstream audience
Side note.... I used to watch your stuff all the time.... then you stopped showing up on my feed for whatever reason... Long story short I'm happy your still making videos RUclips algorithm is really messed up.
The charging dock and extra RGB look nice for Doom and Diablo and casual stuff tbh.
I think those features are enough to justify giving the Cobra Pro it's name, but the wired Cobra should've just been called the Viper Mini V2.
As for splitting products into immersive / performance lines, I think maybe shopping for them would be more straightforward if the performance lines were done by a "spin off" company - sort of like how Lian Li has SSUPD.
4:16 what do you mean cobra icon is exactly the viper icon? viper has a M shaped accent in the mid section, viper icons do not.
Wheew I'm glad this isn't about the Deathadder. I just bought a V3 which is the lightest Deathadder so far at 59G.
They still use a tactile switch for middle button. No wonder many of us have problems after months of use. Many cheap mice use proper switches for the 3 main buttons, but Razer decided to save up on that. Or maybe planned obsolescence.
You say Razer hasn't done this before but they have. The Mamba was the more feature rich wireless version of the Deathadder. Also normally any shape changes were tried on the Mamba first since it was more niche and would upset less of the market.
Everyone also says it's the same. The shape might be similar but the ergonomics and angles are different and different than the Viper. I think things like the more flat sides better suit the smaller shape.
Pro vs Chroma is what it used to be. Then they had the cheap wireless with the X hyperspeed. Even lower than that was old versions of mi e with the essential line.
I got 2 viper minis both have scroll bar issues. Time what problems start with the cobra lol
Cobra wired is a direct upgrade to the Viper mini wired. LOD is fixed, Synapse doesn't try to install when you plug it in, and LED changes are saved to onboard memory. For those who wanted the wireless though... my condolences.
It weighs more. That alone is a
MASSIVE downgrade
@@northwestclasspnw7974 Cobra wired is 58g. Viper mini wired is 61g.
@Vittra0 can we add weight? Both the Viper mini and deathadder mini are too light for me, the Logitech G305 is fine in weight with lithium but oddly shaped (for me anyways). Still looking for that "perfect mouse" for me 😔
I have the Cobra wired and LED changes are NOT saved to internal memory. Maybe that's the case on the PRO wireless version. When I close synapse it reverts to the default RGB pattern.
@@Omarock I was referring to the wired Cobra version specifically. I was able to save LED changes and get rid of Synapse. Not sure why that wouldn't be the case for you, but that's a huge cause for concern if it's inconsistent like this.
I have a theory that the reason razer made the Cobra the way that it is, is because their Viper Mini SE would not sell as well if they released a lightweight plastic version of the viper mini because most ppl would just buy the plastic version. So they are in a way forcing ppl to buy viper mini SE because it's the only lightweight wireless viper mini that exists. I hope I'm wrong.
Still own my Viper Mini
Same
Same dude
1:39 All are made for folks with small hands. I will stick with my Corsair Glaive RGB,still a bit small,but great overall. I still use a Razer rgb KB,but stopped buying its products around 2019 as the GREED became overwhelming,to put it mildly. Our host has Carpel Tunnel. I had it from gaming around 2004(Morrowind) had a arm and hand glove and still had to stop PC Gaming for 2 years !
This must be Dimitri’s personal choice in mice because I don’t remember hearing much when Logitech changed the g502 completely by taking away the whole weighted thing
so happy I was able to buy viper mini last December, now it's not available anymore in data blitz
Solid review thank you and I agree once you get to 65g and under you're good for FPS.
Viper mini had terrible lift off distance. I returned 2 also because they had mushy right or left click... Beautiful, but only for holding in store.
Good thing I bought spares viper minis when they were on sale, hard to beat the best mouse at $19
I wish I did the same 😅
wasnt the viper line supposed to be ambidextrous mices? non of their wireless options have right buttons now...
I have Razer mini and im sorry for this situation, but i will use mini for a long time.
Hope it holds up for many years
Not necessarily related to Razer (I don't think they have ever attempted a genuine non-"e-sports" mouse in their existence), but I'm still waiting for someone to make a hefty, solidly built mouse without a billion holes punctured into it. I've got a Corsair Ironclaw, and whilst it's alright feature-wise, it's still designed for smaller hands; if I want to lay my hand flat on the mouse, two fingers (not counting my thumb) overhang the sides, meaning I either perpetually claw grip the mouse, or have to hover my pinky and other finger in the air awkwardly. Not to mention that the rubber grip just completely evaporated under those conditions.
I wish the mouse industry would just throw me one bone that isn't the damn MadCatz thing that looks like someone glued plastic panels and knobs to a roll cage. Just, one good, big mouse, made of materials that would last more than a blink, that I can palm comfortably. Yet, the more mouse videos I see across the tech space, it seems like people won't be satisfied until they get 1 gram mice made of magnesium fly mesh with 7 trillion dpi, that's Bluetooth exclusively.
Keyboards figured it out, how hard is it for mice to catch up?
I have TWO viper minis!! Love them, and yes they missed the pricepoint and the market on a wireless option.
So glad I got the Viper V2 Pro, I feel like i'm gonna be with it for years until they release a similarly good mouse
One thing Razer REALLY needs to work on, is a new scroll wheel tech. Both my Tartarus V2 & my Basilisk V2 have scroll wheels that not scroll radically up and down when going one direction. :( And yes, what Razer is up to here with these mice is very weird. Too many different models. So many of their keyboards and mice look so similar!
Have to wait for the viper mini signature price to go down!😅 But they could have increased a few grams like the cobra and jus create a regular viper mini wireless in my opinion!
unpopular opinion: i kinda agree with razer. Like i get most fans wanted a viper mini pro, but wouldnt that be too much? the viper line is already big enough. I really do understand what the team at razer were thinking. another complaint people also have is the weight but i bet if a viper mini pro was released it would be the same as the cobra anyway. The cobra line may as well be a mini viper line where its basicly the viper but yk mini. If im being honest I just want a cobra x hyperspeed that w9uld be insane especially with how increadible the basilisk v3 x hyperspeed is.
I'm the proud owner of a Viper Mini, amazing product, cost me round 23$, maybe I should buy another for when mine gets broken lol!
Just sent my Blackshark v2 pros back today because kept having issues with Synapse, or Synapse is just that broke.
Razer fd me over on a poor release on the signature viper, favouring bots and ebay reselling. After being a faithful costumer I decided to move on and suggest everyone looks elsewhere for their peripherals
Wait, I love my Razer Viper 8Khz, isn't there anything like this ? Because after some years it's finally failing
Whilst I agree this is a confusing nice, I disagree in the lack of a need for the cobra line. At 2:03-2:09 you said it yourself accidentally, you know the mainline mice but you don’t know the other names a line might have because there’s a lot of variations, they’re already saturated enough. I’ve said it before, I’m not buying this mouse, but I’m very interested in the cobra line, they do need to differentiate it more by adding a button or two more on the side and cut down on rgb and weight. The regular cobra I had no idea it existed and I do agree moving one product to a new name is confusing and unnecessary. They could have managed the cobra line so much better, and I am losing hope that they’ll make it work.
And as I responded to another person in your last cobra video about the “dlc’s.” Whilst I agree it sucks that there are add-ons sold separately, the revamped line of razer mice have done the same thing, the v2 dock is a separate sale from all the compatible mice, just like the v1 dock and the 8k wireless adapter as well, you can/could get them in a combo with compatible mice.
I’ll be sticking with my orochi v2, but I’m hoping razer get their stuff together for the cobra line, hoping this is the only blunder of this type.
Disagree with this review entirely, because I have actually used it with puck removed at 74 grams weight and it's an amazing mouse. People are just on the ultra lightweight fad like they can't compete without it feeling like a broken piece off the bumper of a Prius, yet pros are still using 108g mice with way worst tech and still miles above them casuals crying. It's a great mouse, and it's feature packed. The complaints are invalid. We get it, those complaining want a fkn poptart box for a mouse, but be realistic, this is just the start of the cobra line, to get away from the "mini" series. It's a great mouse, I've reviewed it, if it just wasn't so small for my grip style I would have mained it. Everyone that's tried it and has somewhat common sense and a brain has liked it. The hates unjustified. It's literally a smaller viper ultimate with better tech and aesthetics, if you don't want that since you need to cope with the failure realization of "I need to be competitive durururur" then wait for the Mini SE or Cobra V2 and stfu. All these negative review bombs are a minor amount of the actual audience with common sense, they are the ones who understand and bought it. Need a real review look me up and thank me later
I’m telling you as someone who loved the viper mini and wanted a wireless version. I picked up the G-Wolves HTX Ace 1,000 pulling rate version for better battery life and it’s amazing! It has a similar but even better feel than the viper mini and it’s lighter at 39 grams. It took me a few weeks to get used to the weight but this mouse is so fun to use. I’ve shelved my viper mini and never looking back. I’m telling you if you like the viper mini but want wireless try the HTX Ace don’t sleep on it 🔥.
I'll look into it thanks man
I don't have an issue with them offering something heavier with a bunch of rgb. I'm sure a bunch of best buy execs said they needed something gamer-y to sell to parents buying something for their kids. The issue I have is that Razer promised a viper mini pro and thought that this would fill that need. I was ready to make an unnecessary purchase if they had a reasonably priced viper mini pro (~200 cad) but there's no way I'm spending $400 cad on a viper mini se.
Razer Viper mini literally just destroyed the competition in that price category. RIP though
Why, Razer? Just... why? You had such a good run recently! Ditching dumb RGB for pure performance and now THIS?!?
Naming it pro when it should have been named ultimate drastically reduces the chances of getting a no frills pro model like the viper v2 pro. So it looks like there will only be 2 versions of the cobra but not a huge biggie since a lot more mice with just as good performance are right around the corner, Razer took their lead in the peripheral market and are pulling an intel and resting on their laurels.
I've been planning to buy the viper mini new edition for a long time. But now I think I will put my focus on the coming finalmouse ultralightX. Good bye Razer.
razer was getting a lot of praise for the death adder v3 and viper mini, probably made them feel out of their element not being used to that so they had to go back to their roots with this one
Razer should fire their marketing people coming up with these crazy ideas
Why is the Cobra PRO so heavy?