Fast Double Bass Drumming Tutorial

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июл 2011
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    This is the double bass special for you guys! It was even longer then I expected. Enjoy.
    News for the Dutch: Right now I am starting a drumschool in Tilburg. If there is interest, I would love to hear it. If there is, PM me.
    1:18 Pedals
    8:20 Triggers
    10:29 My DB story
    14:34 Technique
    20:21 Speed and Endurance
    24:32 Heel toe
    Sorry for the last "black 5" minutes.
    The site for the metronome is:
    advanced.bestmetronome.com/
    Pedal settings:
    Full spring tension
    Beater-head distance: 9cm (almost 4 inches)
    Trigger module: Alesis D4
    Also check out my band:
    www.myspace.com/persistensemetal
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Комментарии • 734

  • @confessionsofapwner
    @confessionsofapwner 11 лет назад +12

    "Double bass drumming is not about putting weight on your ankles."
    Tell that to gene hoglan.

  • @oOJampisOo
    @oOJampisOo 12 лет назад

    Thank you very much for your reply. I really appreciate that you take the time to answer not just my question but everybody else's as well!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @rahvens
    @rahvens 12 лет назад

    Thanks a lot, i've learned a so much with your videos ... They're only a few who share's their double bass drum secrets ! I'm a beginner at double bass drum and now i know what i need to do to get better.
    Thanks again Ensiferumftw !!!

  • @ohforthelove74
    @ohforthelove74 10 лет назад

    You make good videos. You and I have very different playing styles but I still find these videos very informative. Keep it up man!

  • @Villex93
    @Villex93 13 лет назад

    Thanks for answering my question and the great vid! Also the axis-pedals info was very helpful!

  • @CalTalbot
    @CalTalbot 11 лет назад

    Hey man, thank you very much for answering my question so quickly. Please keep the video's coming, you are a great player and deserve any complements that you receive. God Bless.

  • @arrackattack
    @arrackattack 12 лет назад

    THANKS alot guy !!! i started playing drum 5 years ago, but without full time cause of studies and stuff and i was very awfull at double bass..., then i saw your video and i bought my own double bass (cause i was playing on a friend one), now i m jamming since july on it, and the dream is becoming true, i was just able to go at 130 bpm ..and now i can go on some triplets at 170(heel up), or 220 triplets but by doing heel toe !! so once again ! thanks !!

  • @Trommelmann1
    @Trommelmann1 12 лет назад

    You are on the right way to became a good drumteacher and workshopdrummer, go on in this way,dude!

  • @palitao
    @palitao 12 лет назад

    your explaination was very enlightful, thanks dude! all the best

  • @PVS1
    @PVS1 11 лет назад

    this vid has helped me out a lot. thanks for taking the time to make it.

  • @robby188
    @robby188 12 лет назад

    Excellent double bass playing!!!! Congratulations!!!

  • @AlexWeick
    @AlexWeick 12 лет назад

    Hey bro, its nice to see someone who can play double bass fast without heel toe or slide. I have big feet and have never really been able to get it going. I use it mostly to play triplets and with my right foot.

  • @horriehomepage
    @horriehomepage 12 лет назад

    This guy's video is covers everything you want to know! Pedals definitely matter. Find the ones that work for you, that produce the sound you want (also the beaters are important, I use Iron Cobras with wooden beaters). The pedal itself doesn't make you better, but getting used to a newer, more quality pedal will allow you to become more accustomed to it in ways you couldn't with your POS pedal.

  • @steveshlacker
    @steveshlacker 11 лет назад

    Sweet tips man, really helpful, thanks for taking the time to make this :)

  • @juanborjas6416
    @juanborjas6416 10 лет назад

    Thank you very much for the in depth tutorial and the information. It is very helpful.

  • @Spjungen
    @Spjungen 10 лет назад

    I feel so proud to be part of the metal community, knowing I have common interests with people like this wonderful gentleman...seriously man, kudos.
    Teaching myself drums at my dorm in uni atm, I don't have anything so far I just tap on the floor and such but I feel ready for a pair of pedals with a small board to tap on, hopefully that'll do for the moment. Wish I could fit a full kit but I dunno if it's gonna happen =/

  • @marioescapeme
    @marioescapeme 11 лет назад

    nice dude. helped a lot. Love ur pedals

  • @mikelovesdeb
    @mikelovesdeb 11 лет назад

    Holly Molly Great Lesson and Awesome Playing,thanks so much. Drums are cool

  • @kakashi11213
    @kakashi11213 12 лет назад

    @Ensiferumftw hey firs toff thanks for replying man, unlike a lot of other people who do tutorials! and just a few minutes ago i tgithened them, i think they went as tight as my right, more or less the same anyway, i tested with the beaters! ill just keep playing everyday and hope i get faster eventually haha, thanks for this bro!

  • @nonameband97s
    @nonameband97s 11 лет назад

    Your video really helped my speed. I have Iron Cobra Jr.'s, and can only do about 210 or so, but I've went from around 165 to 210 with what you said. I've been looking around everywhere on how to improve speed, but you're the only guy that really helped. Could you list your drum set and what kind of meinl cymbals you have? They sound great.

  • @sneakyanimation
    @sneakyanimation 10 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge Dude!

  • @HerrFugbaum95
    @HerrFugbaum95 12 лет назад

    Nice video, man! I hope you had the chance to go to the Neurotic last weekend. I couldn't go this time unfortunately.

  • @MaxDisteli
    @MaxDisteli 12 лет назад

    @Ensiferumftw echt awesome skills man! respect!

  • @return2energiser
    @return2energiser 12 лет назад

    That's fantastic man.

  • @underbrokenskies6768
    @underbrokenskies6768 8 лет назад

    Great video man. helpful information

  • @hunting3782
    @hunting3782 11 лет назад

    Okay thanks! Your drumming is awesome!! And the double strokes are just a quick step back on the pedal right

  • @georgehandley1447
    @georgehandley1447 10 лет назад

    i actually love your phrasing

  • @frostillekus
    @frostillekus 11 лет назад

    First of all, I found this video extremely helpful, and wanted to express my thanks for the effort you put into uploading it. I do however have a question, have you ever had any problems with your right leg being significantly faster then your left? I'm finding it difficult to maintain a consistent rhythm, was wondering if you had any advice?

  • @WIDMOSA
    @WIDMOSA 11 лет назад

    HELLO, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST VIDEO TO SHOW THE DOUBLEPEDAL-TECHNIC!!!
    GREAT :-)
    AL

  • @johnnytdrummer
    @johnnytdrummer 9 лет назад

    Hey thanks so much..this was really helpful for me..I am just starting to play double kick for about 2 months now..I am on about 110 bpm doing sixteenths and can not get any faster for some reason..I can hold this for an average of 2 to 3 mins with a metronome..anyway cheers hope to hear from you..johnny.T

  • @Spjungen
    @Spjungen 10 лет назад

    Dude I so wish I could toke with you...you're just the kind of friend I need at the moment!

  • @BERIALWIGLAF
    @BERIALWIGLAF 11 лет назад

    Pretty good, seriously, if you are in a band they sure are lucky of having such a good drumer >: )

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  12 лет назад

    Anytime bro! Keep on rocking

  • @FernandoArouche
    @FernandoArouche 11 лет назад

    really nice work!

  • @glacier2win
    @glacier2win 12 лет назад

    Thank you for putting the times for each section.

  • @GertuCapur
    @GertuCapur 13 лет назад

    i haven`t found out anything new for me. but anyway your video is good and useful for beginners. great job bro!

  • @user-ur4kv1yh7q
    @user-ur4kv1yh7q 2 года назад

    That's awesome. I'm motivated. I `ll stick it!

  • @xanthofficial
    @xanthofficial 12 лет назад

    @TheRadrussian1 It's true nice pedals help. I myself use axis. I know that many metal drummers including myself like tight spring tension because the pedal responds faster and a for triggers. They are just a helping hand for metal drummers :)

  • @Skogangr
    @Skogangr 11 лет назад

    you're drumming is sick!

  • @SnareGuitar
    @SnareGuitar 11 лет назад

    Thanks! That really helped me out.

  • @TheAdrien001
    @TheAdrien001 10 лет назад

    Thanks so much! This really helped.

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  13 лет назад

    @ebyjon Dankje! Helaas is Engels toch de taal die het makkelijkst te volgen is voor iedereen.

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  12 лет назад

    @TheStinnMann Thanks a lot man, I have been thinking for weeks to come up with that!

  • @Altrackzcrackz501
    @Altrackzcrackz501 11 лет назад

    thank you willing to share knowledge with all of your video may be the best in online teaching drum

  • @SnareGuitar
    @SnareGuitar 12 лет назад

    May I ask what sound you're using in your Alesis D4? I bought the same module to get the amazing sound you have, but I can't find a good one... Help would be highly appriciated! Thanks in advance!

  • @pabloopazo1884
    @pabloopazo1884 11 лет назад

    awesome man!! thx for this video!

  • @sodomexodus3301
    @sodomexodus3301 11 лет назад

    your band is great

  • @h4unt3dfx
    @h4unt3dfx 12 лет назад

    Awesome man! Are you talking about the flat foot technique? I can't really do any of that stuff. I have been wearing ankle weights for a few weeks now though, that is really damn tough! I do see some results though.

  • @SnareGuitar
    @SnareGuitar 12 лет назад

    Check out any Axis Longboards, or look for Pearl Demon Drives. They're both direct link pedals, so their response is really fast. The Tama Speed Cobra is also good, they're very light and have a good response, all about personal preference. For the best result check all pedals in a local drum shop to test the difference between direct link and chain pedals and find your personal favourite. Hope that helps!

  • @Kreuzkruger89
    @Kreuzkruger89 13 лет назад

    Thanks for that great video!

  • @Oli4drums
    @Oli4drums 13 лет назад

    I started out (and still have them) with Dixon pedals too. That gives me hope that i'll be as good as you :)

  • @MileIotecrew
    @MileIotecrew 12 лет назад

    Dude yout in persistence right? I saw you some times ago in bremmen...this was just amazing!

  • @Ulrikth
    @Ulrikth 12 лет назад

    Now the number one tip to learning to play fast double bass tight is to learn to play slow double bass tight and then gradually build up speed. There are tons of techniques out there that allow you to exploit the momentum you build when you trigger the pedal dynamics, but all of those are worth zip if the tightness doesn't lie naturally in your body. So once you have that tightness, start working on some of the simpler techniques for high speed - like the heel-toe double kick.

  • @garywhite9203
    @garywhite9203 10 лет назад

    Play with Chaos Inception. Pretty good video young blood. Keep the hard work!!

  • @exp4nd243
    @exp4nd243 12 лет назад

    thanks for the help dude, really helped.

  • @takeshitandeatit
    @takeshitandeatit 10 лет назад

    Really nice video...Can I ask you what is the type of your base drum? It sounds really great...

  • @Spjungen
    @Spjungen 10 лет назад

    Guys one thing that's really important that this gentleman doesn't mention is spring tension; you NEED to make sure the spring tension in both your pedals is the same otherwise your drumming will be uneven and sloppy if you try to do anything higher than 100 bpm, and even then...
    I've had my double kick pedal for about a week now, and one thing I'm finding REALLY hard is control; if I try really hard I could go fast but it'll be uncontrollable; I can't play short bursts or switch tempo.

  • @angelicbaby92
    @angelicbaby92 10 лет назад

    omg that was extremely informative. thank you :D

  • @Valbobard
    @Valbobard 13 лет назад

    Most of my playing has been for practise or just for myself; how do you come up with rhythms and beats (especially fills) that fit the music for your band? Do you write them yourself or is it more a collaberation with the rest of the band?
    Great vid, really enjoy your work, keep playing \m/

  • @ErikHuangDrummer
    @ErikHuangDrummer 12 лет назад

    Have you tried the gibraltar intruder direct drives before? And if so, how do they compare to the axis or demon drives?

  • @StaTicCc1
    @StaTicCc1 13 лет назад

    Very Informative thanks man!

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  12 лет назад

    @LoadingSet7 The Ddrum trigger is 70 euros, the module costs about 100 euros on Ebay. Then just some cables and ur done.

  • @MegaFalcon16
    @MegaFalcon16 12 лет назад

    Hey man. really nice. One thing ive always wondered but havent had enough money to experiment with is wether or not the kind of Bass skin ur using makes a difference.

  • @CalTalbot
    @CalTalbot 11 лет назад

    Thanks again for answering my question. Good advice, I'll try to do as you have suggested and see how things go. I have subscribed to your channel, so I'll stay in touch and let you know how I'm doing. Stay loose and happy drumming.

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  12 лет назад

    @BandaDK I might be a little late in responding on this. But got 1 correction; in most cases you CAN change a setup so the trigger will variate in the intensity you hit the head, so the sound will be softer when you hit softer, and vice versa.

  • @Lordtarkil
    @Lordtarkil 12 лет назад

    Great video! I have one small question. What kick sound from Alesis D4 did you used in this video? Thanks a lot for answer.

  • @batako0o
    @batako0o 12 лет назад

    Hey man! nice videos... I have a question.... which and how many things do you use to muffle your bass drum? i have some troubles with my triggerin... thanks! :D cheers from MEXICO :)

  • @Izaac3512
    @Izaac3512 12 лет назад

    Hey, first of all, thanks for the DB tutorial, and second, I was wondering if you could just record yourself playing. The intro at the beginning sounded awesome.

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  12 лет назад

    Yep, pedals are crucial! A new world will open mate ;)

  • @steffren
    @steffren 10 лет назад

    Something that I never see discussed is the tension of the pedals. Do you tend to tighten up the springs a fair bit or do you keep them loose? Tighter makes more sense to me really but I'd like to get a professional opinion.

  • @DANIELISOCKS
    @DANIELISOCKS 13 лет назад

    You're a God, mate. :)

  • @Smeegz90
    @Smeegz90 12 лет назад

    o yeh.. good vid man. pretty informative!

  • @oOJampisOo
    @oOJampisOo 12 лет назад

    Awesome video!
    I just have a quick question: generally on double pedals, should you set the left pedal spring tighter or lighter? Since it has to compensate for more mass including the connecting bar.

  • @LouietheXIII
    @LouietheXIII 12 лет назад

    this doods so awesome!
    \m/

  • @BramTrommelen
    @BramTrommelen  11 лет назад

    Hi, thanks a lot for your feedback. Is your left foot just slower when you play seperately or is it simply not keeping up with your right foot? This second scenario is not very common when you practiced a lot because your locomotion then is so advanced that your left will follow your right. So if this is the case, simply play slower and build up your speed more slowly.

  • @erikiniel21
    @erikiniel21 11 лет назад

    Thanks for this video man.. I have one question, how do you practice your left foot? Do you train your left foot the exact same way with the right one? thanks :)

  • @robertsimmons3336
    @robertsimmons3336 8 лет назад

    Very nice video. Thank you.

  • @superevilempire
    @superevilempire 12 лет назад

    well done man

  • @Weinmaste
    @Weinmaste 10 лет назад

    Sweet!! Thank you for your reply!!

  • @rjpoga
    @rjpoga 12 лет назад

    great job by the ways

  • @fortunefavors4138
    @fortunefavors4138 10 лет назад

    What are the setting for your d4? Have one and love your sound.

  • @TutaWookyDrummer
    @TutaWookyDrummer 12 лет назад

    @TutaWookyDrummer and also i have the classic blacks...do u think there are any differences between the standard silver longboards and the classic black? apart from the sonic hammer beaters. thanks

  • @sampeters7809
    @sampeters7809 12 лет назад

    Hey Ens,
    Big fan, my biggest issue, is keeping myself in-time with the rest of my drumming at speed?
    Any tips or things you'd recommend trying?

  • @batako0o
    @batako0o 12 лет назад

    Wich heads do you recommend ( and to use with triggers)? My bassdrum head got broke. :(

  • @EliteOwnage101
    @EliteOwnage101 11 лет назад

    How is you DDrum trigger holding out? Are there any misfires? or Cross-talk?
    And how did you set your calibration on your Module?
    Any advice on if I should get this trigger for my bass drum?

  • @oOJampisOo
    @oOJampisOo 12 лет назад

    Holy crap that was a fast reply!
    But let's say I want to have medium spring tension - should the left pedal (moving the connecting bar) be lighter, tighter or equal to the right pedal?
    In order to get an even resistance from both pedals if you know what I mean?

  • @jean-paul328
    @jean-paul328 9 лет назад

    This video was very good, but what kind of double drumpedals would you prefer for a beginner of double bass? My budget is around 150-200 dollars. Plzz answer

  • @BrandonDdrummer
    @BrandonDdrummer 12 лет назад

    If you like axis but want a more reliable pedal then you have to get either the trick dominators, which i have, or the trickpro-1v bigfoot. Their direct drive longboards but they use a compression spring. basically you hit the pedal and it compresses a spring inclosed in a small housing. its easy to adjust, you just turn a knob. plus everything is adjustable with a drum key. and switching from double kick to 2 singles takes literally 30 seconds. dominators run about $600 (U.S.) Pro-1v about $900

  • @JP13795
    @JP13795 12 лет назад

    If you mean the beater being closer to the skin, then yes for speed because it has less distance to hit the skin, and less distance on the way back. And if your foot board is adjustable you can change that too. I don't suggest putting it too high, but you should be comfortable playing with your heel down.

  • @ethanorawlinsino6635
    @ethanorawlinsino6635 9 лет назад

    Sick dude

  • @chloehoskins1120
    @chloehoskins1120 10 лет назад

    what kind of kit you play? we play(that's me and my daughter)a Yamaha stage custom with speed cobras ,and what you said about them makes sense. I am building a DW performance kit now for myself.

  • @manowar168
    @manowar168 13 лет назад

    Fuck, im with my laptop now in a hotel, i cant hear. Ill watch it on 21st of july..
    cant waith dude, youre one of my favorite drummers on the net!!!!

  • @Ardathful
    @Ardathful 12 лет назад

    Well, great video, thx alot !
    But why did you chose to play with a little beater-head distance instead of a standard one like 15cm ?

  • @Mutvermis
    @Mutvermis 12 лет назад

    I like the swing recoil on your pedals.

  • @benguidi2759
    @benguidi2759 10 лет назад

    What do you think about mapex pedals? And which beaters do you like best?

  • @connorbennett9171
    @connorbennett9171 11 лет назад

    hey..sick vdeo btw, i have a question about the symbal hidden by the double base cam in the top right of the screen its a 26.42..i just wanna know what size and what type it is....Thanks

  • @phillipcalloway6960
    @phillipcalloway6960 11 лет назад

    very insightful!

  • @JorgeLeitner
    @JorgeLeitner 12 лет назад

    Cool video dude. By the way, nice hair!

  • @azharrazak3462
    @azharrazak3462 11 лет назад

    at the moment i have iron cobra's they are very good and nice to use. i would suggest getting them, but maybe compare the two (if you can demo them in a store) and see what you feel is best. dont forget -practise makes perfect

  • @TheAndrewpickles24
    @TheAndrewpickles24 11 лет назад

    Cheers mate I'm completely self taught but had trouble getting faster beats and this has helped massively. Any tips on how to stop my hand wanting to do what my foot is doing. Subbed ya an liked 2