Comic Book Retrospective: Flash of Two Worlds and Nobody Dies

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    Joe Corallo and Eric Breen join Wes to discuss two classic Flash comic book issues. Gardner Fox created the character and wrote numerous classic Flash tales during his time at DC Comics. He returned to the series in Flash #123 for a one-shot titled ‘A Flash of Two Worlds’. The story is an absolute blast as Earth-1 Barry Allen meets Earth-2 Jay Garrick and introduces a concept that remains a driving force in DC Comics, the multiverse. Wally West was the Flash for multiple generations after Barry Allen sacrificed himself to save the universe in ‘Crisis on Infinite Earths’. William Messner-Loebs’ run with the character is criminally underrated. Messner-Loebs writes a character defining story in Flash #54 ‘Nobody Dies’. Faced with certain death, Wally West finds the courage to jump from a plane to save a woman he barely knows. It’s one of the most inspiring superhero stories of the modern comic book era. Wes, Joe and Eric dive into essential Flash stories (Flash of Two Worlds, Nobody Dies) that changed the DC Universe and defined a hero for generations.
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Комментарии • 31

  • @paulocosta4744
    @paulocosta4744 3 года назад +10

    Listening to Breen talk about the first meeting between Barry Allen and Jay Garrick made me think "Wow! Remember when lots of things used to happen in just one comic?"

  • @AL-ws5yi
    @AL-ws5yi 3 года назад +8

    My coworker loves Flash. He lent me some of his golden age books and I can see why he loves Flash.

    • @wtk6069
      @wtk6069 3 года назад +2

      Seriously, Flash was one of the better golden age strips in all the golden age. It's kind of forgotten nowadays because they haven't been reprinted like the Superman and Batman stories, but the Flash ones hold up much better in many ways.

  • @wtk6069
    @wtk6069 3 года назад +9

    I've always said that pre-Crisis Flash doesn't get enough credit for being ahead of its times. Barry Allen got married at a time when status quos rarely changed in comics, then around a decade later his wife was murdered, and he just about goes crazy over months worth of stories. Then, when he finally starts building his life back together, it almost happens again to his new love. Comics just didn't do things like that in the 70s and 80s, but Flash did. Plus, the Rogues Gallery was fleshed out to a degree no other villains are even today. I remember in the early 80s when Captain Cold, who was always a hard-luck romantic, got dumped by his latest lady, so he attempts a murder suicide by freezing himself and her to death, and Flash has to save them both. Who else would even attempt that kind of story in 1982?

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 3 года назад

      Which issue was this?

  • @alloytoo
    @alloytoo 2 года назад +3

    IMHO Loebs Flash does all the heavy lifting for Waid's run later. "Nobody Dies" is one of my all time favourites.

  • @MaxP_88
    @MaxP_88 3 года назад +7

    If you wanna talk about Flash essentials you HAVE to talk about The Return of Barry Allen (the Mark Waid 90s arc) and Terminal Velocity in another video!!!!

  • @MutantsInDisguise
    @MutantsInDisguise 3 года назад +7

    One of the best comic book stories ever.

  • @atomichound1868
    @atomichound1868 3 года назад +4

    My favorite RUclips series! Two great Flash stories and really appreciate the Post-Crisis era nod. That was my favorite series of Flash stories and I thought Wally trying to live up to Barry's legacy was riveting. In fact, I think that is the high point of DC overall and really made me start paying more attention to them than Marvel, especially once Shooter departed. Looking forward to that FF installment next!

    • @chihiromononoke9381
      @chihiromononoke9381 3 года назад

      I agree!

    • @chihiromononoke9381
      @chihiromononoke9381 3 года назад

      I had that Wally Flash comic. Did Flash ever fight Lex Luthor? If not, this should happen. I also want to see Superman versus Anarky.

  • @dwaynemuth8775
    @dwaynemuth8775 2 года назад

    Binge watching and found this! Great Wally West story! William Messner-Loebs is excellent underrated writer and great stories like this prove it! People doing comics today could learn a lot just from this era! Thanks,Wes!

  • @jerr0.
    @jerr0. 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for going over these! For anyone who hasn't read The Flash Vol. 2, you're fucking up. It's amazing and despite being about Wally, you learn a lot about Barry and it makes you want to go back and read those silver age stories too. Read it however you can. The first 2 volumes of the Flash are available to read in their entirety on DC Universe if you can't track down physical copies.

    • @memphisgraham7986
      @memphisgraham7986 3 года назад

      i know Im quite off topic but does anyone know a good site to stream newly released series online ?

  • @johnmurphy9385
    @johnmurphy9385 3 года назад +5

    Cary Bates's Flash from the death of Iris up the Trial of the Flash storyline right before Crisis is extremely under-rated, with wonderful, expressionistic late-period art from Carmine Infantino. Before Wally was my Flash, he was my Kid Flash and my Flash was Barry. Anybody in doubt as to why Barry's death in Crisis was such a big deal needs to read this closing stretch of Bates's run. You'll be glad you did.

    • @jerr0.
      @jerr0. 3 года назад +3

      Listen to this guy! There's a few years right before Crisis where a lot of silver age titles had some great stories. Pretty much bronze age sensibilities in a pre-crisis world.

    • @wtk6069
      @wtk6069 3 года назад +2

      Infantino was a classic example of an older artistic great comfortably settling into a more simplified, but more stylized artistic mode as he aged. It's kind of a thing for comics artists of a certain caliber. Kirby and Gil Kane both made the same kind of transition in the 80s, and all three produced memorable late-career work in that era.

    • @johnmurphy9385
      @johnmurphy9385 3 года назад

      @@wtk6069 I couldn't agree more. I encountered Kirby, Kane, and Infantio as artists whose work simply stood out on the spinner rack before I knew that they were legends. But it was already obvious to me why they were. I feel really fortunate that I got into comics at a time when those three "old masters," to whom I would add Jim Aparo as fourth, were doing work at the same time as future legends like John Byrne, Dave Gibbons, Frank Miller, and for me, above all, George Perez.

    • @johnmurphy9385
      @johnmurphy9385 3 года назад

      @@jerr0. The real turning point for DC wasn't Crisis in 1985. It was another Wolfman-Perez collaboration: New Teen Titans in 1980. DC Presents #26 is on a par with Action #1 and Showcase #4 as a milestone in DC's history. It kicked off and epitomized an era leading up to Crisis that was as good as the era that followed it. Crisis is when people who had previously only read Marvel realized how good DC was. But people who were reading DC already knew. I think I was lucky, in a sense, to have grown up in a small town without a comic shop and lucky also that I got into comics on my own and introduced them to other kids, rather than being initiated by an older kid with a partisan mindset and preconceptions about what comics "rocked" and which ones "sucked." It was only later that I found out that you were supposed to think that Marvel in that era was much better than DC. I'm glad I was left alone to make up my own mind and enjoy both companies' titles equally. Not liking DC comics because they're not Marvel or feeling that you can only like ones that were published after Crisis are two of the most perverse and self-defeating things you can do as a comics fan.

  • @davidbooks.and.comics
    @davidbooks.and.comics 2 года назад

    these are my favourite episodes. Lots of fun reading these comics.

  • @TheSnapdad
    @TheSnapdad 3 года назад +2

    The tension in the Wally West story is heightened further since a few issues before Wally accidentally burned across the country digging a huge trench and unfortunately killing innocent people. Great 👍 review of one of my top favorite characters.

  • @Flashshadow
    @Flashshadow 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video, fellas! I love the Flash comics and have been trying to collect several volumes and back issues for the character throughout his history!
    I was able to read the two team-ups between Barry Allen and Jay Garrick, but I sadly haven’t seen the Wally West comic you mentioned. Since he’s my favorite Flash, I owe it to myself to find and read that issue! Along with the rest of the Loeb run!

  • @derekgreen7319
    @derekgreen7319 3 года назад +1

    Dc should collect Loeb's flash run into an omnibus edition, I mean it's got Larocque art. They could even put the baron stuff in. Loeb also had a pretty good hawkman run too. Just putting that out there lol

  • @derekgreen7319
    @derekgreen7319 3 года назад +1

    Hey Marv wolfman and george perez are DC cannon characters too! Lol

  • @robertonline6543
    @robertonline6543 2 года назад +1

    To this day I can't believe comic book guy got married!!!

  • @Mako2401
    @Mako2401 2 года назад

    Love how much story was in only one issue before. Today you need at least 6 issues for the same amount.

  • @YTLawnGnome
    @YTLawnGnome 3 года назад +2

    I just picked up the graphic novel of Flash of Two Worlds and Nobody dies I found an original print for about 3 bucks. I am picking up a bunch of Mark Waid's Flash run.

  • @derekgreen7319
    @derekgreen7319 3 года назад +1

    While I do like one issue stories. Particularly by guys like marv wolfman, I still prefer multi issue story arcs. To me that's what makes the medium special.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 3 года назад

      Then you will enjoy every modern comic this year since everything is being written for trade

    • @derekgreen7319
      @derekgreen7319 3 года назад

      @@zemox2534 well i do think that is the ideal way for this medium. Manga has been writing in story arcs for many years.

  • @lybluewonder6
    @lybluewonder6 2 года назад

    Are they going to fix and make the comics right?