Soprano Guitar Build (...and Tone Demo)
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- So this was an interesting project. Don't call it useless just yet as there may be a lot of different designs to try and techniques. I really like those super high music box like notes, and if you could actually get your hand over to those super high frets properly, you could stretch some pretty crazy intervals on chords. Just think about it, we've experimented beyond both sides of the piano now!
*last minute edit: In the demo, the guitar only has 38 frets. I forgot I took one out at the end for the final print thinking it's print easier.
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This is the Most early 2000s dude I’ve ever seen. God bless.
Forreal if u watched without the sound, his hand movements make him look like he’s singing in a 2000s emo band
@@rileytanner4476 Well his I Ran Out Of Tears EP is pretty much that.
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Octave pedals: Am I a joke to you
Lol
Wait... Don't yah mean sustain pedel?
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no. Octave pedals let you raise/lower the pitch of the signal. So instead of going through this man’s hassle of restringing your guitar and setting it up for “alto” tuning, you just turn the octave pedal to +5 and bam. You’re there.
@@xxXthekevXxx congrats you got my bad joke.
I was sort of thinking the same. If you're only about hitting one note at a time, yeah, who needs a thinner and more high-tuned string? Although it doesn't seem to work that good if you have several notes ringing at the same time.
And I thought it was stressful to tune up my acoustic
Tune down your acoustic instead!
@@harryxiro Yep looser strings are safer.
theMetal973 I play acoustic in D standard
@@nehemiahzo_ I play electric in d standard.
Ldub0775 i also play electric in D standard.
When you have 39 frets every pickup is a neck pickup
Lawyer Morty underrated comment
@@kadenisgr8 thank
Neck/Middle/Bridge all at once.
He could split that HB into neck/bridge…
@@SnahLhug
coil spitted = bridge
full humbucker = neck
Jared Dines, Stevie T and Rob Scallon are literally shaking and crying right now
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*Djent has left the chat.*
Then what joined?
Probably pop punk fans which I hate!
Delaware has left the chat permanently.
@@dezthescentlessapprentice Djentn't
tnejD
This is all the more reason you need to make a song that uses every guitar from contrabass through to soprano!
Do shake it off with taylor swift and me at my house some day.
wouldn't soprano just be a 6-string ukulele with metal strings?
@@-jank-willson actually yeah it could be
There's a reason why mandolins have such a short neck. Look into the 1/2 sized guitars.
That guitar is a 1/2 sized guitar
@@firstname_lastname3507 big bruh moment
@@kenny.m.olsen95
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You forgot to scale down your fingers.
Dude, to me, you're the LinusTechTips of guitar - always doing the extremes most of the viewers aren't able to do yet somehow having the experience shared through videos. Much love!
I had to stop the video. My dogs went crazy.
Good god, the anxiety I would have from tuning that high lmao
You might say that
( ••) you're just a little bit...
( ••)>⌐■-■ HIGH STRUNG.
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YYYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@mal2ksc That tuning is High B Tuning just like David Matthews.
I mean my ears weren’t bleeding but my dog was not happy 😂
The harmonics are there without any modification, but your layout shows where they are. Excellent!
6:23 me when I skip through the dialogue in Pokémon Diamond
Truuuu
This comment is perfect
Omg hahah this got me
Thank you I hate it
4:21 This fret board extension is awesome, we go well past the 24th fret & even past the 3rd octave 36th fret for a total of 39 frets.
2:37 Unlike Down tuning where you can always go thicker and thicker, for up tuning you have to not only go thinner and thinner, you also have to shorten the scale length to reduce the tension which is like adding more frets.
The mad guitar scientist is back at it again , this channel awesome
Watching you tune that probably made me stressed more than I should be.
Same. I could feel a panic attack coming.
That string just gave up like “nah, man, use the damn piano”😂
You come up with such creative videos and ideas. Great work dude!
Just stumbled across this RUclips video. Never been so happy to have found a new RUclipsr I wasn’t aware of... this is quality content
Thanks for this video, in the 1990s I was sketching 36 fret guitar with a mountable 3rd octave. Glad to see you play it and make it with a 3d printer. Finally I know what that sounds like. 😊
Quick question?
How do you not have more subscribers?
God is punishing me or something, idk lol
I subscribed!
@@SaidTooMuchProductions Can you purchase a Mandocaster 12?
@@SaidTooMuchProductions Hello there, those locking really work no matter which strings you have on it & they also allowed you to get rid of those string trees so that way you can eliminate as many contact points which are the points the strings break no matter which size they are.
@@SaidTooMuchProductions Can you use an Octave4Plus C5 String on this Guitar for C3 Standard Tuning?
Super cool idea! One potential improvement would be using a left-handed model and flipping it over so that the highest string is the shortest (due to the Fender-style headstock/tuner placement)
Or just swap an inverted (lefthanded) neck, interesting
Uli Roth's Sky Guitar(both the custom ones and the Dean ones) has the neck pickup under the fingerboard.
It's good to see that the idea I had for a 10 string guitar with a high A and D is not impossible.
Go back to the model, get rid of the plastic frets, and design in slots for fretwire. Also, a rigid material like Nylon or even ABS would be better at transferring vibration. I'm a 3D printing nerd as well as a guitar nerd myself!
Oh, and try actually using it AS a lap steel, or at least with a slide...your ears and the windows in your house may never be the same though....and your poor dog...
I think fretless would make more sense tbh
Also start with a 22-fret S-type, rather than 21. Then he doesn't have the end matching problem with the 22nd fret.
It needs to be a steel string, the pickups won't pickup the sound as nylon is not magnetic
@@jdlawless_fuel1416 hes talking about the frets being made out of nylon, not the strings
@@doppled oh shit I just re read it you're right, though why not use wood? And make a full neck?
i think that u should tune this to drop/open tuning and try to play with slide
Ya, it's basically a lap steel anyway, might as well add a g and b bender too right?
@@SaidTooMuchProductions Wow it's cute, can you experiment with High Strung Nashville tuning?
@@SaidTooMuchProductions A Soprano Lap Steel, just too cute. A slide makes it easier to go above the range of the piano w/o having to tune up too high. Goldtone makes an Electric Mando Guitar ala Electric Soprano Guitar which is tuned an Octave above a Standard Guitar because it's just half the size.
@@SaidTooMuchProductions G and D bender?
If you've heard of the artist Bumblefoot (Ron Thal), he used a metal thimble (like the one used for sewing) on his right hand finger, and then tapped beyond the fretboard to get those high notes.
Another thing to try is using the right hand slides that lap steel players use.
Not only that, he already did the same neck extension on his Hand guitar more than 30 years ago
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All these My Chem references in the intro and transition... Im happier than you thought you could make a user.
Dude, you're so completely nuts. Love all the weird ideas you come up with, but man, these projects must take forever.
It's a lot of work, thanks for noticing lol
I'm really enjoying your videos, I just recently discovered your channel. Teaching my wife to play guitar (24yrs as a singer/songwriter) and it's always fun to have great content to show her about how far the envelope can be pushed and it puts standard tuning and the such into perspective with what one can do with a stringed insturment...ALSO I LOVE the slide out fretboard addition for it to be removable is great!!!🤘✌👍👊 Keep the content up brother you've got another viewer!
Thanks Man! Nobodies doing what you do with your content, keep pushing!!! Everyone else SUBSCRIBE HERE 👍✌👊🤘
How do you have only 8.5k? Your videos are professional quality and very well presented. You pick interesting topics to go along with that too. Keep it up
This is a really cool video that I didn’t think I needed to see, until I actually saw it.
Dave Mustaine would love that thing. Love the ingenuity.
Please, keep doing your expirements! You did a great job and great video. By the way, I 've built 11 string classical guitar with 41 frets, first string is A, and I am using fishing line 0,55mm (nylon, of cource) and it is great!
It would be really dope if you try doing extreme left hand cutout. And may be buying those .003 strings, even if they insist on not doing it.
Really looking forward to see were this project will go.
The Solution Is a Single Coil...
Rodri Antoniak that sound would be so tinny up there. Maybe a hot rail
@@kenconify the DiMarzio ProTrack
@@kenconify How about a Piezo Pickup
@@kenconify Not tinny but it would sound like a Harpsichord.
Honestly I can't understand why you don't have more subscribers, this is quality - if mildly silly - content. Keep at it my dude. ✌🏼
Bllink-182 AND The Offspring, damn the memories
i dont know if you realize it but looking at your projects, you have so many sonic capabilities that you can use them to make real unique music
I know, check spotify/iTunes, "Said Too Much" artist
Tenor guitars are 4 stringed instruments .. Wes Borland from Limp Bizkit used one (among a bunch of others - see wikipedia) - Ibanez custom made some for him . I think they’re usually tuned in 5ths
He used a 4 string Baritone guitar. It was tuned to a low F#.
Can you make the Freddie Mercury of guitars, one with a extreme large range
If you wanted to be accurate you would need around 4 octaves. About d2-d6
Freddie Mercury didn't have that much of a range.
4 is about normal.
I can do 5 and I'm not a singer.
World record is 10
nuberiffic actually universal average is about 2, and professional average is about 3, I my self actually have around 8 octaves, -2E to 6d I just use Freddie because he the one famous for his wide range, it’s like when people say fast like a Cheetah even though a cheetah is not the fastest animals, that honor going to the Perigen falcon, but cheetah is the one everyone knows, just like Freddie
@@MaladyKayjo -2E?
Bullshit.
I mean the fact that you've got the formatting wrong leads me to believe you're just talking nonsense.
But E-2? Come on dude, that's like 5Hz. That's not even infrasound yet.
@@nuberiffic How is the -5th octave any more ridiculous. That's the supposed man with the largest range.
If you want to venture further into that rabbit hole, Thomann sells a 19" (492 mm to be precise) scale strat under their Harley Benton brand, it might help with shaving a semitone or two. If you want to dig further into that fretboard extension concept, how about making it metal and fretless?
Whammy effect are the only solution to get higher pitch on guitars but I really love your experiment it makes us really understand how our instrument and pitch works ♥️
0:03 I've played Shake it off by Taylor Swift on an Alto Guitar w/ Pentatonix & the Hutchins Consort before the Lockdown happened. A Guitar I tuned up a Fourth by adding a High A on top, Dropping the Low E, and tuning the B up to a C to retain that one major third Interval. Nothing to complex involved, just using a set of Super extra Light gauge Strings.
youtube recommendations were on point this time
There comes a point where you have to start setting the frets whole steps apart rather than half steps.
A reverse inline or balanced headstock might help with the highest string.
If you want to keep the neck pick-up, you could skip a couple notes.
I've been able to go beyond the fretboard with a slide.
Said Too Much Productions That Soprano Guitar is very adorable. The GME-6 is a True Soprano Electric Guitar tuned an Octave Higher.
Amazing, how many guitar nerds are out there. Awesome video, which reminded me of my own tuning/ short scale experiments back in 2019: I bought a short scale and got into the idea of a soprano guitar tuned in EADGHE one octave over an standard tuning. Used the same 007 string. I managed to tune it once this high, but then after five minutes playing it snapped. I never got there again after several attempts, more sanding, graphite on the nuts (like a coal-miner, eh?), and a wayyyyyy slower tuning process (of about 1/4 tone per day when reaching Bb). Conclusion: The cut-offs on this "children's guitar" are a nightmare anyway, and the frets are too, but I ended up playing standard 42-9 with a tuning in HEADF#H, which is pretty awesome, with nice tension. Will go slinky cobalt with 10s too for that extra tension! If you want "soprano madness", just get yourself a soprano guitar with the appropriate scale length...
But thanx again for the video, the fret extension idea via 3D printer is brilliant!
The harmonic at 8:06 sounds exactly like Meshuggah’s Break Those Bones Who’se Sinews Gave it Motion
love the mirror reaper profile pic
Haha, you need larger cuts for that!
Awesome punk tone
0:19 It's called an Alto Guitar since tuning down a fourth or fifth gives you a Baritone, then tuning up a fourth or fifth gives you an Alto.
7:40 sounds like it could be a ringtone
You are extremely talented, like for real
You could keep the neck pickup by planning your new printed frets with holes above the magnets or lowering the pickup and creating a space on the underside of the printed frets. Maybe a little more work on the new high frets, but you could keep the pickup and possibly plan it so the fret piece connects/attaches to the pickup and holds it in place. You could even saw out the bottom of the guitar so you could play the new frets without reaching over. A lot of extra work, I'm sure, but thought I'd mention it. Amazing project that could inspire others to do something similar! Thanks for this! 😁👍
you should try frets set at usable intervals instead of the full fretboard for the higher notes like the Uli Roth skye guitar it's set up to reach specific intervals and still be comfortable and precise to play
This is the pinnacle of human achievement
Lmao he played creep by despacito
Would love to see a version (maybe with a very slightly easier up tune) with a modified body that lets you easily get all the way up, or even an entirely 3D printed body, in the same shape style as a gittler guitar
At 8:33 my dog who was laying at my feet ran to another room and wouldn't come back until this video was over.
You are certainly an innovative fella
Your really on to something big young man...
Said Too Much Productions You can use D'addario NYXL Stings for all stings because they're very flexible. Octave4Plus makes a .005 High C5 String.
Very cool science experiment
Ok this Is probably one of the more creative wacky guitar builds I’ve seen, bravo
Man I dont even play an instrument but I applaud you with the clean topology of those models in blender im kinda jealous :)
I wish I was able to turn the volume down faster.
Have you thought about printing a fret board attachment with certain extra frets custom spaced for playing specifically written music that doesn't require any of the other frets?
Like a guitar fret board built to only play Black Sabbath's Iron Man.
Or higher octaves but not necessarily 39 frets worth? Hand pick and fine tune like frets 35, 37, and 31. Something like that so strumming wouldn't be so bad and rubbing on that plastic.
COOL IDEA MAN!
I kinda feel like this is something that DragonForce could get into. 😂
So true 🤣🤣
Cool experiment, dude.
Something to think about for WAAAAY in the deep end (high end?) is a lever system like you would see on a Hurdy Gurdy or Nyckelharpa. I bet there is a way to use levers to position thin metal arms to cover the utmost high frets for that high range. It would not be as agile as fingers, but it would allow hitting those ear splitting notes consistently.
*Stu Mackenzie would like to: know your location*
stu and his harmonics
I cant fucking believe you just lowkey played the chords from creep damn you.
Also i just subscribed youre amazing
Said Too Much Productions Having some felt on all 6 saddles allows them to slide smoothly.
these projects seem like a nightmare to do to me as i hate even changing strings but i love watching your vids!
As a teenager I used to tune my acoustics up a half step.....suited my 13 year old voice better and the extra tension really made that solid mahogany top resonate really well. Also hipshot makes excellent tuners. I have a set of open back locking hipshot tuners on my 3 main guitars (ones a 7 string with their extra 7th string tuner specifically an esp ltd sc207 with fishman fluence modern 7s and ones a schecter with a JB/59 set highly modified like all my guitars and the last set is on my Martin D10e Sitka top Sapele back an sides acoustic lol and they work great on it and are only a bit heavier feel wise than some open back Waverly tuners.)
I think thinner strings are the norm on new instruments because they're easier to play, particularly when the instrument is set up poorly. A high action isn't nearly as punishing with Billy Gibbons .007s as with SRV .013s. But if you find them flabby, tuning up a half step is cheaper than replacing them, so it happens a lot.
So w/ B Standard, you can now play Stay or Leave by Dave Matthews cause it's in that tuning.
The mad man is at it again
Said Too Much Productions Ocatve4Plus makes a High C5 String that'll produce a strong signal on this guitar & it's a .005 string. Keep in mind slowly tighten it so that it won't break cause these ball ends are special for super thin strings.
Octave4Plus makes Strings for that super high tuning
Very cool,I have ran several IPS'S into one another using each one to raise the pitch,of course it gets tinny at that point.
Thanks for the video, cool project. Ever seen a mandolin? I'd be tempted to take some cues from those in making a soprano guitar. Doubling the thinner string(s) should improve your weak signal a bit - or you could maybe get what you want with an active pre-amp. Personally I'd be tempted to go low tech though, and just double the top string (effectively making this a 5 string) or even the top 2 (giving you a 4 string tuning.) You'd need to redo the nut and I'm not sure how you'd get the bridge you're working to cooperate, but that's still probably less work than it would take to shorten the scale length more (since you'd really be fabricating a good deal of the instrument to get that.) Also you might try changing the tuning a little, thirds sound better on the high strings, so did you say A standard? ADGCEA? I'd try ADGCFA for a six string tuning, or DGCFAA with the top A doubled maybe. Anyway, very interesting to see and hear what you came up with.
Oh, after letting this one percolate for some hours, the obvious finally strikes me. An improvement you can make much easier than anything else I've mentioned (other than the minor tuning adjustment.) Scallop that printed fretboard! It should make it a bit easier to play up there, and since you're printing the thing instead of sculpting it by hand, it's no more work than just printing another one.
There are Pianos that go higher than C8 like the Beluga which goes up to B8, & the Malmark Handbells go up to C9.
Said Too Much Productions Go to full 39 frets. Tuning higher means you have to go thinner and thinner.
Just as awesome as I thought it would be. In terms of adding things I say that the extreme left hand cut out and scalloped frets I think will help with comfort a lot Djent on man🤘
i saw a 36 fret custom schecter once with scalloped frets at drum city guitarland in Denver.
@@slavesforging5361 yes and there is also a production model 30 fret ibanez as well😂
@@mr.fictionaloxymoron3643 Cool. i had no idea!
You could replace the plastic frets with metal ones and chop off the part of the body that gets in the way of your hand, but still pretty neat!
Your commitment is admirable and inspiring.
Cool video!
I made a fretless extension for an Esquire that I use occasionally, with fret lines marked.
I think "descant" is fitting instead of alto/soprano
Young Loki giving us his C8 guitar build.
Octave4Plus makes a High C5 String which is a 5 Gauge
1:32 Octave4Plus made a super tiny .003 String for a super weird Scale Electric Guitar
You'll wanna try the Octave4Plus Strings
if gerard way and eddie van halen had a baby, it would be this guy
With a little bit of Billy Corgan, Ozzy Osbourne and Geddy Lee
@@ayanamirei6017 and roger taylor in bohemian rapsody movie
@@ayanamirei6017 You almost most don't need Billy Corgan with the Gerard Way. Young Billy Corgan looks so much like old Gerard Way.
Earned a like for the Rivers of Nihil track. Good job!
There are Pianos that go above C8 such as that Beluga 108 Key Piano
You should get a neck thru guitar and do the same thing. Except sand and contour the body so it can be played like the neck. You know Ron Thal? His use of a thimble to move the bridge closer to shorten scale length is genius. Great vid.
I would recommend replacing the fretboard and using a bass fretboard blank blank and making it longer than the neck and on the lower frets use larger frets and the higher you go use smaller frets
Soprano would be a violin, mandolin, etc...Using a cigar box guitar approach might be easier. My cigar box mando has four strings and a 13.875 scale length and a fretless fingerboard w/piezo mounted under the bridge. I liked your project, super cool.