I can't say I agree with all of Peter Lairds opinions, but I actually do think Peter was right for Hun to turn on Shredder after learning he's an outrom, it gave Hun room to grow further, plus it makes sense that Hun would feel betrayed that he was secretly working for one, and shredder never told his most trustful ally.
@@thespider-boy9497 Because Hun was more pissed off at the Turtles, blaming them for his mutation into Slash. Even Ch'rell/Shredder pointed out they had a common enemy again.
I truly think Hun is a great villain. Very intimidating and surprisingly smart and resourceful for a brute henchman. I love his design, fights with the turtles, ruthlessness, strength, cunning, and that he left his master to do his own thing and is now New York City's kingpin.
The Tengu Shredder may have been the original Shredder, but he wasn’t the One True Shredder. That title belongs to Ch’rell, the Utrom Shredder. Even Hun himself referred to Ch’rell as *_“The One True Shredder”_* in Turtles Forever. Hun still retained some measure of loyalty to the Utrom Shredder even after the reveal. When Hun was narrating the beginning of a subsequent episode, he referred to Ch’rell as *_“my late great master,”_* and credited Ch’rell for what Hun had learned and for what he was doing with the Purple Dragons.
Personally i feel like hun turning against the shredder when he found out he was an utrom makes sense. He saw the shredder/oroku saki as the only human stronger than him but then finds out that all that strength came from a robot and shredder(in his mind) was just a little alien slug, he has no reason to be loyal after that
Imagine Hun vs Kano from Mortal Kombat. Purple Dragons vs Black Dragons. Which dragon gang would win in a gang war? Which leader would win in a one on one battle?
Next 2003 videos will be about Fast Forward (hopefully in April). I am not sure when I am doing Alopex yet, we'll see what happens in the next months with the character. As for Venus, you mean IDW or Next Mutation? I am planning on an original Venus video later this year.
Thanks for bringing the Garbageman, you think that when Hun turned into a turtle monster that he would be the show’s Slash that since turtles can live over a hundred years that he would lived up to Fast forward era that he had Alzheimer’s that he doesn’t remember his name and that he would team up with Darius Dunn and the Dark turtle clones. I thought he would wondered about the Shredder that he had worked for hated the Utroms so much that he is an Utrom so I guess that’s why he cut off the foot clan ties. Who would you think can win in a fight Hun or Wilson Fisk aka the Kingpin?
If I had to guess why he was loyal for so long, well for starters, he was successful, and that probably came with good rewards. Second, he seems to have genuinely enjoyed the work before the turtles showed up and the job not only got harder, but much more complicated.
This isn't the first time I've heard the idea of Hun taking up the Shredder armor, but him possibly being one of the Shredders in Tempus Fugit caught me off guard! Hell, given the episode with the magic ring, maybe he uses Tengu Shredder's armor?!
I remember when this series first aired, I thought that Hun was eventually going to be turned into Rocksteady. Glad they decided to not go that route and have an original character.
I covered most foot ninjas in my "what is the foot clan" video. But if you are only interested in their story, I recently covered the history in the Splinter video. Since everything is connected to Splinter, I am not sure if I should make another Foot clan 2003 related video. But I'll see what I can do.
Thanks for watching!
What do you think happened to Hun after Turtles Forever?
When does Lean, Green Smackdown Machine take place?
@@lucasgibbs4050 Around the second season.
I like to think Hun is still out there somewhere but I don't really know whether or not he's still alive so it hard to say for sure
I can’t seem to find Shredders Wars at the moment. If anyone has an English version of Shredders Wars at a decent price on Ebay, that would be great.
@@lucasgibbs4050 You mean physical? Digital is here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FVbnecrPHGrrN23LOsopBQx1pjIpUkY8
I can't say I agree with all of Peter Lairds opinions, but I actually do think Peter was right for Hun to turn on Shredder after learning he's an outrom, it gave Hun room to grow further, plus it makes sense that Hun would feel betrayed that he was secretly working for one, and shredder never told his most trustful ally.
Not to mention imagine being ordered around and threatened by a bug in a suit
@@josephkadlec3104Then why did he return to serve him in Turtles Forever
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Because Hun was more pissed off at the Turtles, blaming them for his mutation into Slash. Even Ch'rell/Shredder pointed out they had a common enemy again.
@@thespider-boy9497 not to mention hun turned on shredder right before being erased in his last appearance
I truly think Hun is a great villain. Very intimidating and surprisingly smart and resourceful for a brute henchman. I love his design, fights with the turtles, ruthlessness, strength, cunning, and that he left his master to do his own thing and is now New York City's kingpin.
The Tengu Shredder may have been the original Shredder, but he wasn’t the One True Shredder. That title belongs to Ch’rell, the Utrom Shredder. Even Hun himself referred to Ch’rell as *_“The One True Shredder”_* in Turtles Forever.
Hun still retained some measure of loyalty to the Utrom Shredder even after the reveal. When Hun was narrating the beginning of a subsequent episode, he referred to Ch’rell as *_“my late great master,”_* and credited Ch’rell for what Hun had learned and for what he was doing with the Purple Dragons.
The Tengu Shredder was named "the one true Shredder" by the Mystics.
I guess it makes sense why Hun kept failing the Shredder...
He was GAMING the whole time. Respect👏
I was today-years-old when I learned that Hun's mutant form is actually the 2003 incarnation of Slash.
Same
I honestly didn’t even realize that’s what that was suppose to be until now
Hope he appears in the mutant mayhem sequel
Me to
As Rocksteady and Bebop’s boss
They turned hun into ed from ed, edd, and eddy
What's really shocking is the unaired episode where we find out the garbage man is Hun's conjoined twin!
Honestly if they removed the conjoined twin plot, Han being related to Garbageman could've happened.
Yah they could have Just say there was an accident that Hun left him for dead for
I wish garbage man was developed more as a major turtles villain in the idw comics along with poacher jack Harlow snok and bone steel
Garbage man, kidnapper of homeless to make them build shit for him, yeah thats the kind of slightily more grounded and gritty plot that I like on tmnt
Now THAT is how you do a villain
Love IDWs take on Hun as well
Dudeeee I have the lean green smackdown machine book hahahaha
Personally i feel like hun turning against the shredder when he found out he was an utrom makes sense. He saw the shredder/oroku saki as the only human stronger than him but then finds out that all that strength came from a robot and shredder(in his mind) was just a little alien slug, he has no reason to be loyal after that
14:07 I'm so glad that you mentioned this part, this scene make me love Hun alot
I was surprised he never knew Shredder was an Utrom this whole time!
Tmnt 2003 was my childhood, thanks for covering some of the aspects of characters. Really fun video.
hun was a great arch-enemy for casey jones, but in the idw comics, it was dumb that he was casey's father.
I seriously doubt if the Shredder valued Hun's loyalty over Kurai's.
Elfinator looks like The Green Goblins short and greedier brother!
Imagine Hun vs Kano from Mortal Kombat. Purple Dragons vs Black Dragons. Which dragon gang would win in a gang war? Which leader would win in a one on one battle?
It’s the same thing the black dragons and purple dragons is a right out of Frank dux ninja weeb fantasy
I mean, Hun already destroyed the Black Dragons in the Mirage universe :p
@@TheTurtleNexus but could he take down Kano?
@@eddiejmartinez8631 I guess that depends on who is writing the story
Peter Laird: Mutates Hun into Slash considered mutating him into Stink Bug
Me: Mutates Hun into Dog Pound
A couple questions: what would your next 2003 video be about? And when are you gonna do Alopex and Venus?
Next 2003 videos will be about Fast Forward (hopefully in April).
I am not sure when I am doing Alopex yet, we'll see what happens in the next months with the character. As for Venus, you mean IDW or Next Mutation?
I am planning on an original Venus video later this year.
Thanks for bringing the Garbageman, you think that when Hun turned into a turtle monster that he would be the show’s Slash that since turtles can live over a hundred years that he would lived up to Fast forward era that he had Alzheimer’s that he doesn’t remember his name and that he would team up with Darius Dunn and the Dark turtle clones.
I thought he would wondered about the Shredder that he had worked for hated the Utroms so much that he is an Utrom so I guess that’s why he cut off the foot clan ties.
Who would you think can win in a fight Hun or Wilson Fisk aka the Kingpin?
Probably Kingpin... Hun has his limits.
@@TheTurtleNexusright because he is always treated like a force of nature
14:05 heh I still feel this funny
If I had to guess why he was loyal for so long, well for starters, he was successful, and that probably came with good rewards. Second, he seems to have genuinely enjoyed the work before the turtles showed up and the job not only got harder, but much more complicated.
huh this video made me realize I never finished watching this show, could be time for some nostalgia
This isn't the first time I've heard the idea of Hun taking up the Shredder armor, but him possibly being one of the Shredders in Tempus Fugit caught me off guard! Hell, given the episode with the magic ring, maybe he uses Tengu Shredder's armor?!
Hun was supposed to be the kingpin of New York before shredder came to power in mirage comics
Mirage Hun next week.
I read about that episode years ago
Hun was like 1987 Shredder who suffered villain-decay.
Except he actually got better in S4. Just ignore fast forward
@@zemox2534 he even loses against the 1987 turtles, most of all Raphael.
I always liked Hun. Big, strong guy but also intelligent. Like Bane
I remember when this series first aired, I thought that Hun was eventually going to be turned into Rocksteady.
Glad they decided to not go that route and have an original character.
Lore of Hun: The Breaking Point of Loyalty - TMNT 2003 momentum 100
In the 40th anniversary book, in the 2003 story hun appears along shredder still mutated
This hun > 2012 hun
I am amazed that 4kids let them d so much dark stuff, but guess had to draw the line somewhere
The garbage man conjoined twins is a headcanon for me 😅
Remember hun is a hardcore gamer has been for years and if you tell anyone hell rip out your tongue
0:00-20:56! Yikes yet interesting?👍🔜😣😱😂🔥😖
Hey can you do the foot ninja of the 2003 ninja turtles
I covered most foot ninjas in my "what is the foot clan" video. But if you are only interested in their story, I recently covered the history in the Splinter video. Since everything is connected to Splinter, I am not sure if I should make another Foot clan 2003 related video. But I'll see what I can do.
@@TheTurtleNexus that would be cool cause the foot ninja would be interesting
Do you think Hun will ever turn human again after the events of the "Turtles Forever" film?
Don't tell Shredder but I always liked Hun better than him 😊
Why would anyone wanna name their child Hun? Despite him being bad ass he has sort of a girly name.
The Mirage version specified his name as "Hunter."
@@justinw7323 it's Probably a reference to the historical figure "Attila The Hun".
im gonna say it. my headcanon cause i am filth. ✨gay✨