Which Ryzen 5 Should You Buy? - 1600x / 2600x / 3600x - 30 Benchmarks & Value Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Which Ryzen 5 CPU Should You Buy?
    Thinking of Upgrading from 1st Gen Ryzen to 3rd Gen Ryzen?
    Planning an Upgrade from something older to Ryzen?
    Confused on what to buy? You've come to the right video...
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  • @vulcanitu2578
    @vulcanitu2578 5 лет назад +942

    This guy does probably the most iconic "hello" on the internets

    • @CarbonPhoenix96
      @CarbonPhoenix96 5 лет назад +19

      Second only to markiplier

    • @chrisscott7990
      @chrisscott7990 5 лет назад +15

      The "smells like teen spirit" of intros

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      @UsokolU 5 лет назад +2

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    • @chris2944
      @chris2944 5 лет назад

      Okay guys, here's the scoop

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      @snapper8283 5 лет назад

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  • @homermakes
    @homermakes 4 года назад +123

    This dude knows what he's talking about and gets straight to the point. I can't believe it took this long for me to find this channel

  • @kurison
    @kurison 5 лет назад +186

    this guy reminds me of Linus when he was still at NCIX.
    also, I like how clearly he speaks.

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      @dapyzzz4209 4 года назад +5

      @BenBenson you mean tunnel bear

  • @Zepbus1
    @Zepbus1 5 лет назад +99

    I'm switching to amd because of the intel security problems. Your video helps a lot thanks!

    • @eneribackwards
      @eneribackwards 5 лет назад +4

      What kind of security problems r there? I have a ryzen chip and am just curious...

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky 5 лет назад +12

      jwc54 Spectre, Meltdown, Zombieload.

    • @xbr0k3nhal0x
      @xbr0k3nhal0x 5 лет назад +15

      I just upgraded my i7 2600k to a Ryzen 3600. I think i made a good choice

    • @rexeverything4578
      @rexeverything4578 4 года назад

      No sh*t...
      I've recently been out of touch, not prison ✌🏻
      Thank you this, I'll do my own research 👍🏻

  • @PatGamingApasStyle
    @PatGamingApasStyle 5 лет назад +333

    Thanks for your videos. Really helps the general consumer in making a value for money purchase.

  • @NightsoftInteractive
    @NightsoftInteractive 5 лет назад +382

    360p squad!
    Or should I say 3600 squad ;)

    • @linus2974
      @linus2974 5 лет назад +4

      360p

    • @Wu187FU
      @Wu187FU 5 лет назад +5

      I don't know what to buy..3600 ?

    • @Aprendiz1878
      @Aprendiz1878 5 лет назад +1

      @@Wu187FU Ryzen 3600 is enough for most games and to work as well, I don't see at this moment a good reason to buy a 3600X model.

    • @Wu187FU
      @Wu187FU 5 лет назад

      @@Aprendiz1878 can't get my hands on 3600..Dispached 1 to 2 months on amazon.de. Only 3600x and 3800x available.

    • @DannyTangtam
      @DannyTangtam 5 лет назад

      Running the 3600 myself in a MB that cost more than the cpu does. Its a standby cpu until the 3900x shows up on newegg again or i get lucky when the 3950x is released. I do manage to peg this CPU out doing to many things, but if I kill of stuff, its pretty good for gaming.

  • @wasdwasdsemag
    @wasdwasdsemag 5 лет назад +43

    Bought a 2600, will upgrade to fourth generation after 4 years

    • @attilabenedek15
      @attilabenedek15 4 года назад

      Why???? Why dont you just wait to the end of this year?

    • @khalidx1450
      @khalidx1450 4 года назад +8

      Attila Benedek
      I just purchased R5 2600 knowing that the new gen for both intel and ryzen are coming this year, but for half it release price the 2600 for sure worth it.
      Usually getting the older generation = more value/money

    • @gilangrr21
      @gilangrr21 4 года назад +1

      @@khalidx1450 agreed, just bought an R5 2600 since the price was almost half than R5 3600 in my country, with b450 board after getting the news that gen 4 will be compatible with b450 with a bios update.
      Planning to upgrade to a ryzen 7 gen4 or gen3 in a few years

    • @jaime4557
      @jaime4557 4 года назад

      @@attilabenedek15 Exactly this is a really dumb move of him.

    • @andipajeroking
      @andipajeroking 3 года назад

      After Ryzen 4th gen appears, i will buy a 2600 and will keep it for 3-4 years and then i will upgrade to 4600. Best value for money.

  • @MrVolodus
    @MrVolodus 5 лет назад +13

    13:25 "Just because there is big increase, doesn't make the old chips useless"
    Because of this, 2600 is value king for me. It is still very potent CPU and it will be for few more years.

    • @AW_77
      @AW_77 4 года назад +3

      Me too. I'm going for a Ryzen 2600 and GTX 1650 Super combination, in my upcoming PC build.

  • @TechDeals
    @TechDeals  5 лет назад +152

    *UPDATE* - Please join us for Amazon Prime Day Live Streams + Bonus Newegg FantasTech Sale Live Streams July 14th to 16th here on RUclips

    • @orgrimdoomhammer2161
      @orgrimdoomhammer2161 5 лет назад +7

      It would be nice to see test with gtx 1060/rx 580 and even 1070/1660, coz who ever buy r5 1600x wont buy rtx 2080ti, expecialy when r5 1600x is now 100€, by the way, i need advice, i want to buy r5 1600x and gtx 1070, what you think?

    • @bryangonzalez4138
      @bryangonzalez4138 5 лет назад +2

      But it does a bottleneck neck

    • @AstroTrain100
      @AstroTrain100 5 лет назад +6

      What about a 2700/2700x for $199/$249 would it be better to get one of those instead of a 6 core chip?

    • @dadgamer6717
      @dadgamer6717 5 лет назад +3

      RUclips is using the 1600x rather than the 3600x!

    • @DizConnected
      @DizConnected 5 лет назад

      That explains it! I was like 360p WTF?!

  • @franpol9000
    @franpol9000 5 лет назад +58

    Hi, I am upgrading from an old i5 4th generation CPU to Ryzen 5 3600, cant wait for the CPU to arrive :)

    • @RecordedRacoon
      @RecordedRacoon 5 лет назад +8

      I upgraded from i5 4590 to 2600x and it has been great so far. Only warning should be to make sure windows 10 allocates enough space for virtual memory bc my computer was stuttering for a while before i figured out that was the issue
      But thats not really ryzen specific i dont think

    • @TheGauges420
      @TheGauges420 5 лет назад +3

      @@RecordedRacoon What do you mean?

    • @RecordedRacoon
      @RecordedRacoon 5 лет назад +4

      @@TheGauges420 windows 10 didnt allocate enough virtual memory. The recommended amount was 2935MB but windows only allocated 23xx and my computer was stuttering. Allocating the virtual memory yourself and making it higher than the recommended should fix it

    • @trullo222
      @trullo222 5 лет назад +4

      i5 3th generation into a 3600! arrives in 3 days T_T

    • @b.henriques9871
      @b.henriques9871 5 лет назад +1

      santi. How do I check that on my computer? That got me curious

  • @clorpe
    @clorpe 5 лет назад +52

    Got a combo from Newegg for a R5 2600x and a X470-F Strix motherboard for 210$ so pretty happy

    • @DC3Refom
      @DC3Refom 5 лет назад +8

      Lucky spastic yank we don't have deals like that in England

    • @ianbreyes
      @ianbreyes 5 лет назад

      Link ?

    • @clorpe
      @clorpe 5 лет назад +4

      It’s gone now but I found through the subreddit called r/buildapcsales it happened a couple of days ago

    • @ironiczombie2530
      @ironiczombie2530 5 лет назад

      That is a really good deal

    • @marcogiron8139
      @marcogiron8139 5 лет назад

      Literally happening right now

  • @jibby2294
    @jibby2294 5 лет назад +12

    I really dont care about long videos when it comes to you, like its amazing how much knowledge comes from one video. Thank you for the great work!

  • @freetobe3
    @freetobe3 5 лет назад +156

    Sees 4 Ryzen Boxes
    Wait a minute, there's only 3 Generations.
    What are you hiding from us?...

  • @alb8826
    @alb8826 5 лет назад +58

    I don't usually watch 360p videos, but when I do its always Tech Deals.

    • @manbirdcat5246
      @manbirdcat5246 5 лет назад +1

      Alejandro Rosales 👍

    • @Kr0niXa
      @Kr0niXa 5 лет назад +1

      you know when a video is 360p its because it just got uploaded, right ?

    • @alb8826
      @alb8826 5 лет назад +5

      @@Kr0niXa yes, I was implying I have notifications on, and watch his videos right when he posts them.

    • @edfx
      @edfx 5 лет назад

      Never hit that bell button, you will get 360p videos.

  • @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390
    @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 5 лет назад +5

    These comparisons are really interesting, pls keep this series!
    The XX80 Ti traditionally becomes the XX50 Ti after 2 series.
    780 Ti -> 1050 Ti
    980 Ti -> 1660 Ti (is nothing more than a GTX 2050 Ti with a massive price increase, so was renamed to justify it.)
    2060 is nearly as fast as a 1080, which is at least 25% faster than a 980 Ti.
    H370 wouldn't allow you to run 3200 RAM, so performance on the i7 would be less.
    Buy the 3600, it is 50 bucks cheaper without any performance loss.

  • @TimmyJoePCTech
    @TimmyJoePCTech 5 лет назад +17

    I like your quad split screen benchmark setup :)

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    • @quintonellis558
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      @trippkristopher9201 3 года назад

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  • @aoucelloutus3573
    @aoucelloutus3573 5 лет назад +153

    3600x beat i7 in GTA5???? wow that's impressive, GTA5 favor intel cpus.

    • @TechDeals
      @TechDeals  5 лет назад +38

      Yea, I was surprised on that too. I played it live in the game as well, the Ryzen 3600X did amazingly well, I was impressed.

    • @Thesinistereyes1
      @Thesinistereyes1 5 лет назад +11

      GTA V favors having strong quad core performance. First gen ryzen had a single core boost while the rest are lower clocks. 2000 series Precision boost 2 kinda fixed it but it still was lacking in IPC and clock speed. 3000 series has the cache for lower latency and PBO to keep your CPU boosting at it's highest as long as it within spec and thermal constraints .
      So you will actually see that in older games that intel used to dominate Ryzen 3000 is also doing as well if not better.

    • @Verpal
      @Verpal 5 лет назад +2

      @@Thesinistereyes1 It is absolutely true, I only notice it when I upgrade from R3 1200 (Launch) to R5 1600 (Unfortunately cooled by R3 stealth cooler). I found it weird that R3 1200 OC to 4Ghz somehow outperform R5 1600 also OC to 4Ghz, turns out due to insufficient cooling, the actual long term maintained OC of R5 1600 for 4 core is somewhere along 3.8-3.9Ghz.
      After a bit of undervolting (Yes I am a lazy overclocker :

    • @robridcick5276
      @robridcick5276 5 лет назад +14

      Not true... The 8700k will run at 5ghz all day. The K skew Intel are meant to be overclocked. This one is running at 4.3ghz. It's factory boost is 4.7ghz.
      I'm calling out a little bit of AMD fanboyism here. AMD's new chips are impressive enough without the help. Easily the price per value gaming option. But the over sale is disingenuous..

    • @Jinny-Wa
      @Jinny-Wa 5 лет назад +3

      @@robridcick5276 Even 8086k runs only at 4,3ghz unless you overclock it. According to hardwaremonitor

  • @arisd.o.s6672
    @arisd.o.s6672 5 лет назад +53

    I swear, I sometimes think you read yours subscribers minds!🤯
    Keep the good work!👍
    Edit: pardon my English 😉

    • @DC...
      @DC... 5 лет назад +3

      I don't even subscribe and he got me twice.
      Once for the fx 8300
      Again for validating price/performance purchase of the 2600.

  • @llamasrose3721
    @llamasrose3721 3 года назад +5

    6:27 "This $1200 graphics card will become a $400 graphics card in just a few years"

    • @RibiRoo
      @RibiRoo 3 года назад

      Funny you say that. I just upgraded from a 1070 to a 1080 ti. Only paid $420 for it new.

  • @schokis7110
    @schokis7110 5 лет назад +4

    Great Video. Still using my R7 1700 + RX580 8GB without any trouble so far. Just a little sad that RAM was double the price at the end of last year, were I bought.

    • @alm6345
      @alm6345 3 года назад

      i felt this in my soul. I was looking an old purchase and i almost died when I realized how much i paid for my ram. I will never do that again, i dont care how long i have to wait.

  • @ultimatovirgino4661
    @ultimatovirgino4661 5 лет назад +43

    Was looking for something like this when I got this notification

    • @floxshuilee1760
      @floxshuilee1760 5 лет назад +1

      same

    • @1967KID
      @1967KID 5 лет назад +1

      Im happy with my 3600x and msi b450 tomahawk g-skill 3200hz cl14 b die 2x8 16gb memory gtx 1070 .

    • @ultimatovirgino4661
      @ultimatovirgino4661 5 лет назад +1

      1967 kID i think I am gonna go for a regular 3600

    • @RPGPlayer01
      @RPGPlayer01 5 лет назад

      @@ultimatovirgino4661 Me too. I don't know if the $50 more for the 3600X is worth it.

  • @VioletViolent
    @VioletViolent 5 лет назад +14

    Ooh perfect timing! I was thinking about upgrading my Ryzen 5 1600, thanks for the vid!

    • @vklvykl
      @vklvykl 5 лет назад

      and what is you decision?

    • @VioletViolent
      @VioletViolent 5 лет назад

      @@vklvykl definitely upgrading, although to a 3600 than 3600x

    • @vklvykl
      @vklvykl 5 лет назад

      @@VioletViolent but why? if 1600 its enough for any game and you pay +60%

    • @VioletViolent
      @VioletViolent 5 лет назад +1

      @@vklvykl When i first built my pc i took a lot of shortcuts. A320M motherboard, so no overclocking, stuff like that. I plan to get a B450 and faster ram this time, as well as going for a 1440p monitor. So i'd rather eliminate any potential bottleneck.

  • @2k6jayesh
    @2k6jayesh 5 лет назад +6

    thanks for such a detailed video. it really clarified my thoughts about making my first ryzen build. got a r5 2600. super excited. thanks again mr. Tech Deals.

  • @TheSchantz3
    @TheSchantz3 5 лет назад +3

    If you're on a tight budget, I think the 1600 (non X) is what you should be looking at. It includes a stock cooler and is $105 on Newegg right now. Pair that with the PowerColor Red Dragon rx 570 for $120 (on Newegg) and you've probably got the best price/performance 1080p PC you can currently build.

  • @DucLe-sl3su
    @DucLe-sl3su 5 лет назад +129

    I want to upgrade from my i3 8gen
    I gonna buy r 3600 i think

    • @TechDeals
      @TechDeals  5 лет назад +38

      Awesome upgrade...

    • @DucLe-sl3su
      @DucLe-sl3su 5 лет назад

      @@TechDeals
      Which GPU should i buy for not get bottleneck ?

    • @ericechols5806
      @ericechols5806 5 лет назад +4

      @@DucLe-sl3su - I just purchased a 3600 and a MSi $65 motherboard. I'm going to use my 1660ti because I've seen benchmarks that state that the 5700xt is bottle-necked by the 3600. The way I figure it, the 2060s or 2070s would also be bottle-necked as well (imho). Plus, I couldn't beat $352 for the CPU, MB, 512 NVMEx4, and a case (the rest I'll recycle off my i3-3220).... I hope that helps a little ☺✌

    • @DucLe-sl3su
      @DucLe-sl3su 5 лет назад +2

      @@ericechols5806 thanks man

    • @adi6293
      @adi6293 5 лет назад +40

      ​@@ericechols5806 5700XT would not be bottlenecked by 3600 what is this rubbish?

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 5 лет назад +34

    I'll be keeping my 1600x and B350 Tomahawk personally, until Ryzen 4000 arrives.
    Right now my GPU is a major bottleneck as it's one I brought across with me from my FX8350 black (GTX 1060 6gb), so I'll probably upgrade to the new 5700XT.

    • @sloo6425
      @sloo6425 5 лет назад +8

      yip same 1600x is good enough for what I need, yes the frame time on some games could be better but I really need to upgrade the os/s drive to a 1 TB NVME SSD first, mine is still on a 2TB Mechanical drive. Plus, I'm still on 60 Hz IPS Monitor, so those two will probably get the upgrade it needs.

    • @joannaatkins822
      @joannaatkins822 5 лет назад +1

      @@sloo6425 true, my monitor needs attention too.
      My five year old just accidentally destroyed my 60hz 1080p display, so I might upgrade to 1440p, but certainly not 144hz...
      And before that my wheel bearing and hub needs replacing on my car, but eventually, hopefully, I'll get that 5700XT like we both need. After the NVME upgrade...

    • @ZeroFallout1
      @ZeroFallout1 5 лет назад +1

      @@joannaatkins822 if you dont mind tinkering with 5700xt theirs alot of head room to be gain. With all the new youtube vids showing 2080 like performance, thats insane. Im pretty sure consoles are gonna be able to do 4k 60hz and stream 8k videos after seeing all the navi benchmarks. Games are gonna look so good especially ps5 exclusives. With what they were able to get out of a 7750 gpu in ps4. Now they have 1080ti power, god of war, uncharted, new horizon, uncharted are gonna be so beautiful.

  • @rockrl98
    @rockrl98 5 лет назад +24

    first time viewer here, thought it was gonna be one of those long balbber shitshows, where I will have to skip and do price calculations myself, but this, this is just great, thanks! I'd give you a bag of cookies lol

  • @harshitdhangar2302
    @harshitdhangar2302 5 лет назад +2

    Everything seems so easy when you're the one explaining. Suggested this channel to all my friends they really like the way you explain stuff :)

  • @johnnyxp64
    @johnnyxp64 5 лет назад +20

    msi b450 Gaming plus MAX +r5 3600X + 16GB DDR4 3600 16C + RX 5700 XT msi, coming in August 🥰

    • @mihajlojankovic4343
      @mihajlojankovic4343 5 лет назад +2

      Nice build I have 2600x but I'm planning to replace my Rx 580 to Rx 5700

    • @Steel0079
      @Steel0079 5 лет назад

      @@mihajlojankovic4343 maybe a good idea if you're playing at 1440p or more.

    • @jevgeniigennadiev7774
      @jevgeniigennadiev7774 5 лет назад +5

      your motherboard doesnt support 3600 mhz ram, get 3200 cl14 (g.skill flare x)

    • @Ninoo187
      @Ninoo187 5 лет назад +1

      Jevgenii Gennadiev smart guy! people just see the bigger number and thinks it works for their motherboard.

    • @flycrack7686
      @flycrack7686 5 лет назад +1

      nice, same mobo , nearly same ram but a r7 3700x on my side, and i am waiting too for a custom build card rx5700, but not sure if xt or not

  • @DucLe-sl3su
    @DucLe-sl3su 5 лет назад +14

    Man i like how you say welcome to tech deaaaals

  • @Nova-Solaris
    @Nova-Solaris 5 лет назад +1

    This video was super useful!
    I think that the price/performance chart is the best way to see the bigger picture.
    And much appreciated for including the board cost into the comparison! That's an excellent way to help us decide which option to choose.

  • @AlvlUpSavedMyLife
    @AlvlUpSavedMyLife 4 года назад +1

    I have a i3-3225. I feel as if the 2600 would completely blow my soaks off.... great video!!!

  • @darkshadow4909
    @darkshadow4909 5 лет назад +19

    I was literally looking for this comparisin when I got the notification from my fav. tech channel

  • @WhiteZerox
    @WhiteZerox 5 лет назад +13

    "Doos Ex: Mankind Divided" oh man I remember when I used to pronounced Deus that way. 🤣 Just giving you a little sheet. Great video!

    • @siddman
      @siddman 4 года назад

      @x33mmm im pretty sure it's supposed to be pronounced like "day-us ex" so that may be why

  • @Warlock1178x
    @Warlock1178x 5 лет назад +4

    Great video ! Thanks for the comparison and information.
    Just bear in mind people the 8700k is not OC. You can get up to a 15% increase when OCing it, zen and zen+ also offer decent small increases, however zen 2 isn't worth OCing. Let's be real here, the 3600 non x is the best choice though.

  • @FlyinTonite
    @FlyinTonite 5 лет назад +3

    Going from the 1600 to the 3700x personally. For 329 the 3700x is such a good deal. 3600x is a great deal as well but I wanted the 8 core/16 thread and the performance is so good.

    • @swinoob616
      @swinoob616 5 лет назад

      also R7 2700 is 180€ in europe ;) 8c/16t

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 5 лет назад

      @@swinoob616 i would not touch the 1000 or 2000 series unless you are on a serious limited budget.

  • @brady657
    @brady657 5 лет назад +16

    Micro Center - 2700x for $199. That can't be beat.

    • @billburns3540
      @billburns3540 5 лет назад +10

      yep u can...the 3600

    • @brady657
      @brady657 5 лет назад

      @@billburns3540 Except no one has them in stock. 2700x is essentially equal in performance when running them @ same clocks.

    • @billburns3540
      @billburns3540 5 лет назад

      @@brady657 ya still a great processor and will be for years to come

    • @billburns3540
      @billburns3540 5 лет назад +1

      im from canada and the 3600 is cheaper than the 2700x

    • @qweqlp8411
      @qweqlp8411 5 лет назад

      Can i use 2700x on 570 motherboards or only 3000 series is supported by 570. Sorry I'm new in AMD world.

  • @mrgoldstone77
    @mrgoldstone77 5 лет назад +11

    Ryzen 5 3600 is only 1-2% difference in performance from the 3600x, but is $50 cheaper. $199 is the deal.

    • @bloodycrepe
      @bloodycrepe 5 лет назад

      Yes, we've all watched Gamer Nexus video by now :) Same guy that recommended 3600x over 3600 just two days ago prior to testing 3600x. I just started following him couple of weeks ago and he's been wrong a lot. My point is, don't take his words blindly. Wait for others to benchmark and OC the heck out of the two.

  • @arielclass9141
    @arielclass9141 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Tech and Rogue, love your channel. First let me thank you for what you do. I have built my first computer (thanks to ALL your help!!!) a year ago. R5 1600 , B350 Tomahawk, MSI GTX 1050 Ti. I have recently bought a R5 3600. Based on your video not favoring AMDs choice of cooler, should I buy an aftermarket cooler? Not planning to overclock at all except enabling MSIs Game Boost. Not extreme gamer either. Just want my computer to run nice and cool. Once again, thank you for all your help. ....Ariel Class

  • @garydurn7983
    @garydurn7983 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent comparisons. The Ryzen 2600/2600X are currently on fire-sale mode, but it won't last long as inventory dries up. Great time to be tempted with a new 6 core 👍

  • @torber5655
    @torber5655 5 лет назад +6

    Everyone is talking about the 3600 being such a good value CPU but the 2600X is also really good and costs €50 less.

    • @gabeclark8050
      @gabeclark8050 5 лет назад

      Ti-80ThiicK and that 1600 is dirt cheap too

  • @Sarcuphiluss
    @Sarcuphiluss 5 лет назад +5

    Welp, guess i'm keeping my 1600x and 1080 combo for a few more years then! thank you for saving me 350 pounds!!!!!

  • @filipcza
    @filipcza 4 года назад

    These videos are just what the people with limited budgets need!
    These videos answer and contemplate EXACTLY the same questions I have when I start upgrading my system every 3-5 years(like just now) So questions like what's the current best bang for buck processor/GPU/memory? And I think I'm not alone so I expect this channel to keep growing.
    Also I like a lot the way things are presented. There is no selling (which I HATE!!) but just evaluating the components and wondering where you should put your money now to get the best deal.
    And on top of that the clear presentation, no annoying music, high quality sound/video.. these videos are just joy to watch.
    Thank you sir, you are doing a service which is greatly needed and appreciated. :)

  • @juanme555
    @juanme555 5 лет назад +5

    man the 3600 is literally almost an 8700K for 199$ , there is no better value in straight cpus than that.

    • @czdaniel1
      @czdaniel1 5 лет назад

      Yep. I feel bad for anybody that needed to buy Intel 3 years ago (maybe 2 & 1/2 years ago)

  • @CaptCanada45
    @CaptCanada45 5 лет назад +9

    I'd like to see some flight sims added for benchmarking. Xplane 11 has some built in benchmarks. DCSWorld would also be a great choice.

  • @nukmanzhen8924
    @nukmanzhen8924 5 лет назад +6

    Tech Deals : 9:45
    Subscribers : Hold Our Beers

  • @Ruperth316
    @Ruperth316 5 лет назад +2

    my i5-2400 rig just died and now time to listen to my trusty PC parts adviser aka Tech Deals

  • @Non_Machina
    @Non_Machina 5 лет назад +1

    I rarely post comments (maybe because they get lost in the thousands of comments) but wanted to say thank you! This is a great and detailed comparison.

  • @octoman_games
    @octoman_games 5 лет назад +4

    $100 for a 1600, 6 core/12 Thread Chip!? Thats should be the premiere choice for any new comer!

  • @thisismysuperawesomeusername
    @thisismysuperawesomeusername 5 лет назад +4

    that hello caught me off guard but it put a smile on my face

  • @Cat31293
    @Cat31293 5 лет назад +14

    I guess I'm still keeping my 1600 for a bit. Graphics card upgrade here we go!

    • @sasatodorovic9056
      @sasatodorovic9056 5 лет назад +3

      yes dont upg. you can use it for next 3 years and have great time :)

    • @dushypal469
      @dushypal469 5 лет назад +2

      @@sasatodorovic9056 true just oc it with good gpu and ram...works like a charm for 2+ years on 1080p gaming.

    • @adhdandy9367
      @adhdandy9367 5 лет назад +1

      i upgraded from the 1600 to the 3600 but iim running a 1080ti on 1440p 144hz and 1080p 180hz, ive noticed a huge difference in performance even with my 1600 overclocked to 3.8ghz

    • @dushypal469
      @dushypal469 5 лет назад

      @@adhdandy9367 I'm on 60hz monitor...so 60fps is all I see...so 1600 will do fine for a few years before splashing the cash.

    • @adhdandy9367
      @adhdandy9367 5 лет назад +1

      @@dushypal469 yeah true, a 1600 is perfect for that res and frame rate, if you upgrade to higher refresh rate you can just overclock your 1600 to get more out of it, your 1600 should surely get more performance than mine, mine was a dog of a cpu in terms of overclocking, 1.425v for 3.8ghz stable

  • @simple-controls5507
    @simple-controls5507 5 лет назад +1

    Fist time I've run across one of your review videos. Very professional and well done. Thank you.

  • @Jack_Sparrow131
    @Jack_Sparrow131 5 лет назад +3

    @TeachDeals Ryzen 3600 comes with Stealth Cooler, but according to reviews, 3600 runs slightly 4c to 5c cooler compared to 2600
    Also, why no mention for 2700? it's around $205 ATM from NewEgg and it comes with AMD Wraith Spire (LED)
    Anyhow, good video, but had to mention my humble opinion in case people wanna consider more options
    Keep the good work :)

    • @ureadwrongthisjunior6056
      @ureadwrongthisjunior6056 5 лет назад +1

      The title is which ryzen 5 should u buy not which ryzen cpu u should buy so the 2700 doesn't count since is ryzen 7

    • @Jack_Sparrow131
      @Jack_Sparrow131 5 лет назад +2

      @@ureadwrongthisjunior6056 Title doesn't mean it's wrong to go with Ryzen 7
      If Ryzen 3600 costs same as 2700, then why not?
      This is not 1 + 1 = 2.. this is value channel, and 2700 for $200 have super value no matter you being ignorant and said no it's not Ryzen 5 ;)

  • @alexanders1365
    @alexanders1365 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you for all the testing! Actually i am looking for a 2nd system. I think i will buy a 2600x and a 5700.

  • @CofeeAuLait
    @CofeeAuLait 5 лет назад +1

    BIG HUGE relevant video. This is EXACTLY the kind of content people needs. You always hit the nail in the heat. Incredible job.

  • @javierorechia618
    @javierorechia618 5 лет назад

    Excelent review as always, good to see your suscribers jumped a lot in the last year. Hope you continue doing this as is very very complete and it is not biased.

  • @jharvs_189
    @jharvs_189 5 лет назад +11

    Ur vids are actually epic

  • @TheSaltyAuthor
    @TheSaltyAuthor 4 года назад +10

    2019: Intel is the best
    2020: Asus switched to amd

  • @gomsybose
    @gomsybose 5 лет назад +1

    Its just amazing , day in and day out, how you manage to do the reviews n benchmark so so detailed.Impressive once again.Great work as always ..

  • @NathanBinks
    @NathanBinks 5 лет назад

    As a person that owns 3600, 1600 and 2700, get the 3600X, my 3600 out performs my 2700 and 1600 in gaming. The 3600 is a beast and the other Ryzen 3000 chips are as well. Definitely worth the money. Best upgrade since I have been PC hobbyist. I started in 2009.

  • @e1337prodigy
    @e1337prodigy 5 лет назад +5

    This is the video I was waiting for, I have a really old system intel 3570k. So it's interesting to see if I should just get 2600 or get 3600 etc...

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 5 лет назад +1

      3600

    • @NovaDoll
      @NovaDoll 5 лет назад +1

      3600 as its much faster and closes the gap in single threaded vs the 8700k

  • @mihajlojankovic4343
    @mihajlojankovic4343 5 лет назад +3

    Between first and second generation not noticeable difference, But the third generation is a great improvement, I have 2600x now, when I look better between the first and second generation, there is no difference, this third generation is broken and cheap, I'm thinking to upgrade to 3700x

  • @benefitthirteen
    @benefitthirteen 5 лет назад

    We're using a 2600 on a media/steam machine. It crushes what we built it to do so as tempted as I get with new releases, I think we'll be sitting this round out. Having said that, the 2600 system was originally built with a 1500X, and I did switch to the 2600 (when I found the deal of course) as I'd always regretted not getting the 1600 in the first place.

  • @Brianybug
    @Brianybug 5 лет назад

    I upgraded a 9-10 year old rig with the $80 R1600, 16gb fast RAM, Aourus Elite, SSD, and RX 570 8GB card and I am so happy and I didn't break the bank. Fantastic bang for the buck for 1080p gaming.

  • @KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
    @KatalistProductionsKozzySasha 5 лет назад +4

    Great video! Would have liked to see 1440p with these setups. Thanks again!

    • @shayeladshayelad2416
      @shayeladshayelad2416 5 лет назад

      KatalistProductions-Kozzy-Sasha
      And 4k please😄

    • @deminybs
      @deminybs 5 лет назад

      Same, currently have a 1440p monitor

  • @ZachalZockt
    @ZachalZockt 5 лет назад +10

    i bought the 3600X . Sold the Wraith Spire Cooler for 20 EUR = 239 EUR for 3600X :D
    Because no one want the low STEALTH Version in the Non X 3600

    • @DucLe-sl3su
      @DucLe-sl3su 5 лет назад +2

      Smart boy i gonna sell my cooler too

    • @lakizmaj5679
      @lakizmaj5679 5 лет назад +1

      Yes but you could've gotten a 3600 + 212 EVO

    • @vincentlaw9006
      @vincentlaw9006 5 лет назад +1

      3600 + 212 Evo cooler is better tho

    • @MrPDTaylor
      @MrPDTaylor 5 лет назад

      I have a Nintendo Switch.

    • @viller7939
      @viller7939 5 лет назад +1

      That is exactly what I am going to do too :)

  • @snapper8283
    @snapper8283 5 лет назад

    Your my favorite tech reviewer on RUclips. You tell it like it is and don't hide nothing. You say what the best deal is and also say what is the most powerful. You don't fanboy up on anything. I like that.

  • @Stein871
    @Stein871 5 лет назад +2

    if you are going for a midrange PC benchmark, use mid range components, like a ghetto b350/b450 board with a max of 16gbs of 3200mhz ddr4 ram and a midrange graphics card like the 2060 Super or the Navi 5700. I don't see the point in using a 2080 ti other than eliminating bottlenecks, but that doesn't equate to what a consumer will experience when they build their PC.

  • @davidpinto-fernandez7132
    @davidpinto-fernandez7132 5 лет назад +9

    Ghost ♫... Recon ♫... Wildlands ♫...
    everytime Tech Deals talk about that game.. is funny.

  • @MegaOS_Ver_NEET
    @MegaOS_Ver_NEET 5 лет назад +39

    considering i'm not a high FPS player and my monitor max out at 75fps....
    looks like my R5 1600 OC'd at 3.9ghz @ 1.35v gonna last me alot more longer than i expected.... XD

    • @PunxTV123
      @PunxTV123 5 лет назад +9

      yeah and it's cheaper also

    • @andipajeroking
      @andipajeroking 3 года назад

      You can try 2600 because in the future you will be able to upgrade it to 4600 without changing anything else.

    • @mrki412
      @mrki412 3 года назад

      But what about memory, I can't get 3600, other then that it is great cpu.

    • @MegaOS_Ver_NEET
      @MegaOS_Ver_NEET 3 года назад

      @@andipajeroking no 4600 in desktop mate...
      if i want to upgrade... i'll gonna need a bios upgrade and based on my manufacture's support...
      my AB350m pro 4 can go use matisse CPUs after it....

    • @andipajeroking
      @andipajeroking 3 года назад

      @@MegaOS_Ver_NEET Whatever, i wanted to say 5600.

  • @Gjerda
    @Gjerda 5 лет назад

    you are so good at this, thank you!! I am going with your recommended build!

  • @TheTryingDutchman
    @TheTryingDutchman 2 года назад

    i bought a (custom) pre-built with a Ryzen 3600x/Rtx 3060 in november 2021.
    In 2022 it still does a perfect job, i litterally haven't hit a limitation yet. (i dont play Buggyfield 2042 or CyberBug 2077)
    Many prebuilts with this cpu are relatively cheap nowadays so viewers that are looking for good value for money in late 2022 should definetly keep an eye out for those!

  • @lifehackertips
    @lifehackertips 5 лет назад +5

    27:00 that's pretty amazing, to see might intel i7 getting spanked so bad by a budget AMD cpu

  • @AnalogFoundry
    @AnalogFoundry 5 лет назад +3

    I wish we could also get comparisons between Ryzen 3000 series and the older i5s like the 2500K, 3570K as well, which at that time were considered "gaming kings". And it is likely that most people are still actually using the likes of 3570K than 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen.
    I'm one of them who's still on Ivy Bridge platform, and would like to know how much perf we can gain going from a 3rd gen Core i5/i7 to 3rd gen Ryzen 5/7 in CPU heavy titles when they are paired with, say, like a reasonable GTX 1060, 1070... And also with 2080 Ti for a pure CPU test.

    • @TechDeals
      @TechDeals  5 лет назад +5

      Those are coming... I have the i7-2600K on the test bench right now

    • @AnalogFoundry
      @AnalogFoundry 5 лет назад

      @@TechDeals - I really appreciate your content. Thanks a lot, sir. 😊

  • @Tandycakes159
    @Tandycakes159 5 лет назад

    Great video, i just picked up a 2600x w new motherboard from microcenter yesterday after much contemplation between 2600x and 3600, the guy that sold it to me really pushed the 3600 saying it blew the 2600x out of the water. I eventually decided that the real upgrade will be to 8 core so for now the 2600x is fine. This video very much helped me confirm my thoughts and calmed my doubts.

  • @ehmoratallar
    @ehmoratallar 5 лет назад

    Thank you very much! I really wanted someone to make exactly this video and I am really glad you out of everybody did it. Huge fan of your vids! :)

  • @elu5ive
    @elu5ive 5 лет назад +11

    getting a 3600, no need for an X

    • @xxcrysad3000xx
      @xxcrysad3000xx 5 лет назад +1

      What's the main difference? Just factory overclocked?

    • @lCielConLimon
      @lCielConLimon 5 лет назад +3

      @@xxcrysad3000xx Yeah, and the CPU Cooler

    • @masterprima7480
      @masterprima7480 5 лет назад +1

      Nice cpu, but wraith stealth cooler is dogshit in my opinion..

    • @valetprivet2232
      @valetprivet2232 5 лет назад

      @@masterprima7480 why?

    • @masterprima7480
      @masterprima7480 5 лет назад +1

      @@valetprivet2232 i have one in 2600. It cools very poorly. Recently i aquired a wraith spire and it's much better

  • @cchhen21
    @cchhen21 5 лет назад +3

    Is it an upgrade to go from a R7 1700 to a R5 3600x for a gaming PC?

    • @theonetruelenny9883
      @theonetruelenny9883 5 лет назад +2

      Yes.

    • @storage-space4927
      @storage-space4927 5 лет назад

      That’s what I just did! Insurgency sandstorm 1440p rtx 2070 mixed settings on the 1700 I was getting 80-100, but with the 3600x I am not getting 110-140 FPS. Conan exiles I was getting 60-90fps with the 1700 and now staying above 100-120. So quite the jump in those games!

    • @cchhen21
      @cchhen21 5 лет назад

      @@storage-space4927 Thanks for the info!

  • @rexeverything4578
    @rexeverything4578 4 года назад

    Great work, very detailed 👍🏻
    Thanks. I have a 1600x @ 4ghz on air with retail O/C 5700XT, and I've been trying to hold off until the next gen. R7/R9,but I get tempted every week to just bite the bullet and buy a 3rd gen. processor.
    I've never seen your channel before - that may seem a little bit ill informed, but I follow my guys and have, until now, been happy with them...
    Subbed with notifications. I'll be seeing you again soon.
    Thanks again. 👍🏻✌🏻

  • @msfselitereallifeadventures
    @msfselitereallifeadventures 4 года назад

    Thanks a lot for this mate - been stuck on the FX-8300 for yonks and have been debating whether to go for the Ryzen 5 3600 or the Ryzen 7 3700x; now I know what to do! Your graphics card comparison video for 1080p/1440p has also been super helpful. Thank you!

  • @2502nazar
    @2502nazar 5 лет назад +4

    I will jump from i7 3770 to 3600 for a $ 200 performance of 8700, after 3600 there is no better choice than 3600.

    • @DarkPa1adin
      @DarkPa1adin 5 лет назад

      Value wise yes you are right!

  • @Adhgnis
    @Adhgnis 5 лет назад +3

    Mr. Deals back with the best deals out here :D

  • @reymonddaveaplicador8629
    @reymonddaveaplicador8629 5 лет назад +1

    Best video comparison w/ clearly explained each of units. ❤️

  • @xmaswithguns
    @xmaswithguns 4 года назад

    I just upgraded my Fx-8350 to the 3600x this weekend. I haven't built the system yet, but it seems like the performance difference is going to be massive.

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo 5 лет назад +3

    😀 did u mention that Ryzen third gen coolers are missing the copper core?

  • @arrax8241
    @arrax8241 5 лет назад +5

    I'll be going for the 3700x from a 3.9ghz 1700x. Should be good.

    • @dennismark281
      @dennismark281 5 лет назад

      Arrax 3700x could only hit 4.3ghz in most cases

    • @DSViDs98
      @DSViDs98 5 лет назад +1

      Dennis Mark even when I game mine is lower, 4.175 usually

  • @mannyc19
    @mannyc19 5 лет назад +2

    Cool,thanks,now when is the 1700x,2700x,3700x version of this video coming? :)

  • @nageswararao5554
    @nageswararao5554 5 лет назад

    Nobody dives this much deep into detailed analysis

  • @ejojo13
    @ejojo13 5 лет назад +16

    My computer is 12 yrs old... watching this for possible upgrade or not 😆

    • @Ashachi
      @Ashachi 5 лет назад +1

      Nah you are fine for at least another 8 years.

    • @ejojo13
      @ejojo13 5 лет назад +2

      According to CrystalDiskInfo, the original Hard Drive for this computer is showing 84k hours of it being powered on... about 19hrs on average daily use.
      Looks like someone hasn't been really sleeping much over those last 12yrs!😱👀😵¡

    • @danielsepulveda912
      @danielsepulveda912 5 лет назад +1

      keep it until year 3019

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 5 лет назад +3

    Another great video. Bought Ryzen 5 3600x on your recommendation. Great choice.

  • @the_trevoir
    @the_trevoir 3 года назад +1

    When this guy goes to the barber, he asks for “the sonic”.

  • @EpicOwl2717
    @EpicOwl2717 5 лет назад

    Gosh, you keep 1 uping yourself with these videos. This solidified a cpu decision I've been debating. TY.

  • @bettergaminghd4718
    @bettergaminghd4718 5 лет назад +4

    I am buying 1600, no point to pay more, thank you for your video. What was I thinking wanting to buy 3600x or even 8700k

    • @nejihyuga5338
      @nejihyuga5338 5 лет назад +1

      Is the 1600 future proof?
      I don't think so, at least not as the 3600.

    • @bettergaminghd4718
      @bettergaminghd4718 5 лет назад +2

      @@nejihyuga5338 24% performance increase for 100 dollars is not good enough, especially 29% for 200 dollars more with 8700k. So the smart way to go is to buy 125 dollar 1600x and then buy whatever processor would cost 125 dollars in few years, I bet it would be some 8 cores and 16 threads cpu by then which certainly will be better than 3600x. Am I not right? : )

    • @zonkeymaker
      @zonkeymaker 5 лет назад

      Vito Pursuer depends on how much longer you’re planning on using the rest of your hardware. If you’re planning on upgrading other stuff soon you should get a better CPU, if you just upgraded and it won’t bottleneck then you’re fine

    • @nejihyuga5338
      @nejihyuga5338 5 лет назад

      @Wojciech Szeler Yeah but honestly i can't wait another year, and i want to upgrade my 1050ti to rx 5700

    • @bettergaminghd4718
      @bettergaminghd4718 5 лет назад

      @@zonkeymaker I do not need more than 60 fps, and 1600x can provide 100. It is future proof for me already. Yes 3600x can give you 120 or even 130 fps on average but I do not have 2080 or 2080ti, more over I do not plan to get it, at best it would be 2070 and I 1600x would make it load all 100%

  • @RagingRudy
    @RagingRudy 5 лет назад +3

    I’ve upgraded from I7-7700k to 3700x just waiting to see what partner cards come out before I decide on 5700xt.

    • @mihajlojankovic4343
      @mihajlojankovic4343 5 лет назад

      7700k is still good cpu for gaming idk why you upgrade

    • @RagingRudy
      @RagingRudy 5 лет назад +1

      Mihajlo Jankovic I agree but I want something I can game and stream on the same pc something I can’t do on the 7700k.

    • @razoo911
      @razoo911 5 лет назад

      @@mihajlojankovic4343 you right but on new games 7700k is no longer so fast then 3700x... outside gaming there isnt story

  • @johnryan461
    @johnryan461 5 лет назад

    Thanks. Been looking all over for a video just like this. Good job!!

  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy 5 лет назад +1

    Patiently waiting for your RX 5700 videos! Really curious how the AIB cards will perform

  • @kaptain1477
    @kaptain1477 5 лет назад +6

    I feel like you should have done this with 580 or 590 cards

    • @Revener666
      @Revener666 5 лет назад

      nah, when you compare CPU's you need a GPU that effectas the result as little as possible. = a good one.

  • @MasudYT
    @MasudYT 5 лет назад +10

    "the 3600 or 3600" lmao i still love your vids tho!!!!!!!!

    • @OGNubbs
      @OGNubbs 3 года назад

      This guy has 2-3k word scripts in his vids no doubt so we can forgive the small mistakes surely

  • @jeees1587
    @jeees1587 5 лет назад +1

    Hi man, i love your videos, im form Mexico, i would love to have ur advice, im getting a new system, il get a 3400g, i wanna know what motherboard you recomend for that, i dont know if im gonna upgrade the cpu in the future, but i wanna have the option to do it, i've been looking for a MSI B450, but here is really hard to get it, there is an option to get a MSI X370 Krait Gaming, would that be a good option ? or just buy a b450 gigabyte or asus ? thanks again

  • @MaxSachs
    @MaxSachs 5 лет назад

    Is this the same dude that used to introduce tech products in the theatre right before your movie started? His haircut got a little more serious but looks to be the same dude. If so, buddy, you are AGELESS.