@Shawnstantinople it's a fun one for sure in small doses. If you do get a PC get a strong one because the game is not very well optimized yet and is very heavy on the cpu and GPU
@takenotes_ ehhh idk about that man. I'm all about supporting indie developers but Axis football just isn't it for me. I've bought it from 18-23 and couldn't do if anymore. The gameplay changes are miniscule and that's what's hurting it the most. I think they should partner up with someone b/c franchise is dope (scouting makes no sense and sorting players is a nightmare) but outside of that franchise is cool.
Nice to see the 2K5 mod being shouted out. It’s been YEARS since the mod first released and it’s nice to see the work the team (I am part of the team) has done still going strong.
Retro Bowl is super underrated. Especially if you’re just killing time rather it be commuting, in between tasks or just chilling in bed. Lmao but it’s immersive and fun
@@ababoononyoutube9921the new one comes out Thursday on Apple arcade. Retro Bowl 25 with real teams and players in it with all of their career stats and awards
The funny thing is EA ain't losing shit by being lazy, by having the exclusive license, they can do fuck all and still get sales cause they hold on to a monopoly
And now the athletics are leaving oakland for vegas 😡 all rhat history and tradition to be lost in the worst ciry in the world vegas. I will never call them the las vegas raiders
I personally planted my flag with football simulator and Backbreaker. Physics in a football game is just a no brainer to me. I agree football simulator is taking forever with their updates however they are making progress. The gameplay you have is pretty dated, they’ve made a pretty good jump since although it still has its issues. The fact it’s the only football game on the market that has physics makes it my number one choice. Madden’s focus is simulation gameplay but it’s nowhere near as fun as the games you listed. To me EA needs to just make arcade football games like CFB25, look how many people love that game. Also it is possible to get the nfl rosters on the emulators for Backbreaker, I use Xenia canary and have the updated rosters.
that's totally fair. I get what they were doing and I appreciate the "artistry" of keeping things authentic, but they still shot themselves in the foot by not having the option for the classic camera view. I would still love a football game with 2k5's presentation, 2k8's cleaned up animation package and backbreakers physics
Mutant Football League is awesome if you liked the old Blitz games. It literally is Blitz just without human characters. Even has the same announcer Blitz had.
If you're going to showcase games like Retro Bowl and modded emulated classics like 2k5, you might as well throw in the NES version of Tecmo Super Bowl. You can easily find a updated 2025 version
I love the retro bowl games and legend bowl games and a fun alternative to CFB for PC users is football coach:college dynasty, it’s very immersive and a great simulator
I'm glad this video came up in my feed, because I didn't know about several of these. I love football, but much prefer a more streamlined, arcade style experience versus a hard-core simulation. 2K5 was a nice balance I still had a lot of fun with, and I loved the presentation of it back in the day. I loved the original NFL blitz, and Techmo Bowl. I have little to no interest in Madden games at all. A few of these games caught my attention, specifically Sunday Rivals, Football Sim, and Retro Bowl. Once the current EA contract expires, I really, really hope this NFL exclusivity crap ends. This 20 year monopoly has sucked. Thanks for the video.
I love Sunday Rivals, probably my favorite recent football game. Otherwise I just stick with retro games with roster mods... including Tecmo Super Bowl (NES or SNES), NFL Blitz (N64) or the mentioned NFL2K5 mods.
Something in me really wants to play Legend bowl and ESPECIALLY Sunday Rivals, but their cartoony appearance pushes me away. I dont take madden very seriously, so im very curious about it but I'd like some other opinions
I can understand that. What are you looking for from a football title? They're both very arcadey. My personal preference is the overall aethetic of Sunday rivals but no multi-season capability, limited playbooks and lack of being able to edit teams/players in a .csv is a bummer. I like Legend Bowls franchise mode but the art style doesn't do it for me. Customization is great though
@WildLionGames I want a game that's fun ON the field as much as it is off the field. More recently, I've enjoyed more of a coach mode/simulation football game where I just make players and do fantasy drafts to see how teams grow and create some great bowl games. I like chaos with a bit of realism
@@indigo_sirgaminglegend bowl is decent on the simulation side of things, and you can change simulation stats so the cpu and user don’t have completely different stats. The only problem I have with legend bowl is that outside runs are op.
As funny looking and janky as football simulator is, it really is trying to be something amazing. Physics based tackling like backbreaker is what madden needs, yet they will never do it. Im sure its a hard thing to accomplish since we've only seen true physics based football in like two games, but what its trying to do is fucking awesome
Madden actually used to be physics based, EA changed that when they switched to their Frostbyte engine because it would be cheaper to only work with one engine.
Retro Bowl, Retro Bowl College are my favs to the point I binged play it since its release Legend Bowl definitely a fun game I recommend if you like that Tecmo Bowl but with good customization Sunday Night Rivals is awesome, love the customization and just straight up awesome. but Basketball game cannot wait to see Football Simulator is definitely be a game in my mind playing sometime in the future ESPN 2K mod is definitely a recommend, and there are definitely other mods as well are awesome as well to check out as well Backbreaker, YES! so much fun definitely a recommend if you like a good challenge and gameplay sure a fun one. Season mode may not be too deep but I like the premise of the drafting. Tackle alley sure was a fun one
There’s a madden 14 mod that has updated rosters called madden nfl rebuilt. Not sure if the mod is dead cause last time it dropped was 2022 but it’s still fun.
20 years later and nfl 2k5 is still the Goat. And you didn't even mention the first person football. I'm surprised nfl pro era for VR didn't get a mention.
if you’re looking for something to play on your switch (besides legend bowl) or even your phone i’d say axis football 23 is a good alternative it’s fun but not exactly the most robust experience out there, just don’t go with axis 24 whatever you do
The "struggle" to not by Madden is easily fixed. Just play any older Madden with a fan-made updated roster. This year's Madden is literally more bare bones than any of the previous games. You're honestly better off playing older Maddens or one of the games listed in this video.
Legend Bowl is my favourite football game right now. Also played quite a lot of Retro Bowl. Have no intention to play any more EA football games - last one was Madden '18.
i perhaps enjoy refactor football simulator compared to backbreaker, such Backbreaker is good and sets the ideal concept of physics-based football. but it does have 2 flaws. lack of cpu vs cpu option and that it's a console only game. So, in a way football simulator kind of fits both appeals for me. that and the destructive sidelines follies that other football games tend to miss. due the curse of the "white line" programming that automatically halts the players on a dime after getting tackled at full speed and force. Also not sure if you checked out FFFL: Brutalball manager, a Franchise Management Simulation game, based mostly on American Football in a Fantasy setting or i can can only describe it as Legend bowl: Blood bowl edition
Ehh I should've I guess....to be honest I completely forgot about Axis. I'm hoping the year off will help improve the game for axis 26, franchise is pretty sweet but the on field experience is still pretty horrific
@@WildLionGames You mean gameplay wise, yes? So..what if I wanted to run a coach mode type season or just spectate ai v ai games in a simulation franchise? Would you reccomend it then?
@@WildLionGames naw you can edit all teams...you need the editor to do it the editor you didnt mention that was also made by King Javo..i have all pro and i have the 1993 roster
A proper 3rd person camera option would be so amazing, probably the most unfortunate thing to not be carried from older football games to new, along with the 1000 other features madden insultingly abandoned
Yeah I like Axis Football. Im a WR on the Denver team for Axis 19-21 I think. but Idk the progress they've made over the last few years has been slim. I hope by taking the year off we see a bigger jump in gameplay for next year
it's funny you say that b/c my brother has the Quest 2 and a couple years ago I got him Pro Era for Christmas. I checked it out a little bit on Christmas Day and it was a ton of fun from the little bit I played. It's definitely going on my Christmas list this year lol
I'll have to make a part 2 I guess. Sorry to disappoint haha. I didn't include it since I think you can only customize up to 8 teams. So while you can have 8 NFL teams in the game, the other slots are going to be fake. But in hindsight I should have at least included it as an honorable mention
there's a game kindof like that on steam. its 7on7 football and all positions are played by real person, I got a pick 6 once and it was so satisfying. but the game itself is okay. wonky animations and weird graphics but its pretty fun
I would love to play Sunday Rivals, but unfortunately the game’s creator apparently, suddenly has zero interest in bringing the game to consoles. Even though he said he was going to for years, and even got rude with me about it when I brought it up on the game’s ig page.
yeah Im not entirely sure what happened there. My guess is he got burnt out on the game. I dont think any more updates are coming for it ever. he's all in on a new basketball game. maybe one day years and years down the line but yeah idk. I get it. im sure its stressful solo producing and developing a football game
@@WildLionGames oh no doubt. And I have sympathy for that. I think it’s quite remarkable that the man basically did the entire thing by himself. I’m just saying though, if you’re going to go out of your way to make promises to the consumer, and then out of nowhere, back out of said promises, it’s just not a good look. Shouldn’t have announced over and over again that the game was going to be on consoles unless he knew for sure it was going to happen.
big facts. I won't lie. it's a bit of a headache to setup for someone like me who isn't very savvy when it comes to modding things but once I figured it out its definitely nice
We are so screwed. King Javo is way smarter than I am, understands what a good football game could/should be like, and if those 1989 graphics are the best someone like him can do....yea, we are screwed. I think I need to stop being a fan of NFL b/c it's maddening(excuse the pun) to want to play a sports video game but you can't b/c it's made so crappy.
I'm sure he can do better, but I think it's a lesson/showcase that making a video game is hard work, and requires a lot of resources, time, money and people. Same with movies. You ever see how many credits are in a movie? And how large their budgets are? I'm sure if king javo and these other indie devs had access to the resources that EA does we would be ok. But it's hard to do it alone
@@WildLionGames That's what I mean. He is capable, but through no fault of his own, I don't think he has the resources to be close to a competitive level. Your analogy is a good one. There's a content creator named Karmakut who is big on tactical shooter games and he teamed up with other people to create a game called Bellum. It isn't out yet but looks very promising and if a gamer can be passionate enough to become a developer and make a great tactical shooter game, maybe someone has been out there working on a good football game.
@GenericRUclipsCommenter241 oh yeah I gotchya, my b I misinterpreted you. But I agree, he would have to do something like what Karmakut is doing to make a solid football title. I've been somewhat following the development of that Bellum game and it's looking good so far. I'm eager to get my hands on it one day
I don't really like Backbreaker, because it's god damn difficult, and I play sports game to do things I cannot do in real life... However. Playing a position instead of all the team, and the immersion is so cool... and damn at leat they tried, which cannot be said about EA ever...
But the game is bad , and the graphics aren’t as good as madden “at least they tried “ isn’t an excuse . The real issue is ,it’s hard to make a good simulation football game
@@Royale5600 When nobody tries, we're stuck with Madden '25. It's not useless to show the world something else is possible, as this video demonstrate. Then again I don't think Backbreaker is THAT bad. It's alright, probably a bit too hard.
I think Backbreaker may have been a little too ahead of its time. Meaning if it dropped today, I think it would get a ton of support because of the strong potential with its exceptional gameplay. but when you think of the nature of the football gaming world and social media and RUclips back in 2009, it just didnt have any support. Madden wasn't as hated as it is now and APF2k8 was just released and indie sports games weren't a thing. but if this dropped today I do believe people would be all over it because of how technology has changed
NFL 2K5 has aged out, It’s time to let that go very few games are enjoyable for 20 years, it’s a good game BUT it just got old and it isn’t going to do it for me anymore. It had a good run
that's always been the biggest complaint about retro bowl since launch. Im not sure the dev will implement defense ever. there has been talk of at least defensive strategy being added in
Why did u not include the NFL Street games u those are very incredible games it has a straight up career mode and an nfl challenge modes where u do missions and stuff dat dupid
NFL Street is fun, but I was more trying to bring up games that are 11on11 football and follow the same rules and have all 32 nfl teams in a league. Same reason I didn't mention apf 2k8 because you can't recreate the NFL in its entirety.
@@WildLionGames its like a bad romance and i fall for the lies everytime this time its going to be better i promise!! ( avatar) outlaws. And the next thing i know the cops are taking one of us away . 😂
Have you played any of these games? Do you plan on checking them out? Did I miss one?
I love football simulator, but I can't play it because I don't have a PC.
@Shawnstantinople it's a fun one for sure in small doses. If you do get a PC get a strong one because the game is not very well optimized yet and is very heavy on the cpu and GPU
Axis Football 2024 (26 coming out) it is better than madden cause you can actually tell the devs your suggestion.
@takenotes_ ehhh idk about that man. I'm all about supporting indie developers but Axis football just isn't it for me. I've bought it from 18-23 and couldn't do if anymore. The gameplay changes are miniscule and that's what's hurting it the most. I think they should partner up with someone b/c franchise is dope (scouting makes no sense and sorting players is a nightmare) but outside of that franchise is cool.
i rock 2k5 CLASSIC mod on pc with the roster going back to the 70s to 2011, all pro 2k8 with the 93 roster
Nice to see the 2K5 mod being shouted out. It’s been YEARS since the mod first released and it’s nice to see the work the team (I am part of the team) has done still going strong.
Retro Bowl is super underrated. Especially if you’re just killing time rather it be commuting, in between tasks or just chilling in bed. Lmao but it’s immersive and fun
Fully agree
it used to be, they stopped updating the game and it's been the exact same game for a year now it's repetitive as hell.
It's fun until your receiver bounces the ball off his head and the corner takes it for a pick 6 lol.
@@ababoononyoutube9921 def gets repetitive.
@@ababoononyoutube9921the new one comes out Thursday on Apple arcade. Retro Bowl 25 with real teams and players in it with all of their career stats and awards
The fact that Backbreaker is fifteen years old now says everything you need to know about EA’s laziness
The funny thing is EA ain't losing shit by being lazy, by having the exclusive license, they can do fuck all and still get sales cause they hold on to a monopoly
@@FlareTheFolf exactly. And that’s what seems so unfair and corrupt about it. Yet every year people keep buying the game.
Madden ain’t even that bad ur trippin
@@yo5535 how much EA paid you?
Comments about EA are lazy. Lazy af.
I’ve been playing Retro Bowl for years now , it is incredibly fun and deep.
The OG 2K5 is still fine by itself and the Raiders are where they belong, in Oakland!
And now the athletics are leaving oakland for vegas 😡 all rhat history and tradition to be lost in the worst ciry in the world vegas. I will never call them the las vegas raiders
@@Davidjon1946 I'm still a fan, but I don't wear nothing with Vegas on it. I'll be the same with the A's.
#SellTheTeam
Raiders are home, Chargers are home, Rams are in St. Louis, and the Redskins are still around. Why would anyone want to change that?
I personally planted my flag with football simulator and Backbreaker. Physics in a football game is just a no brainer to me. I agree football simulator is taking forever with their updates however they are making progress. The gameplay you have is pretty dated, they’ve made a pretty good jump since although it still has its issues. The fact it’s the only football game on the market that has physics makes it my number one choice.
Madden’s focus is simulation gameplay but it’s nowhere near as fun as the games you listed. To me EA needs to just make arcade football games like CFB25, look how many people love that game.
Also it is possible to get the nfl rosters on the emulators for Backbreaker, I use Xenia canary and have the updated rosters.
Backbreaker is the tackling system I have been wanting on madden.
Legend Bowl is the GOAT as far as I’m concerned. College Bowl is now out as well. All they’re missing are individual career modes.
Back breaker was fun I just couldn’t get past the camera angles. You couldn’t see the field yet the physics were PERFECT. 2k5 is king 👑
that's totally fair. I get what they were doing and I appreciate the "artistry" of keeping things authentic, but they still shot themselves in the foot by not having the option for the classic camera view. I would still love a football game with 2k5's presentation, 2k8's cleaned up animation package and backbreakers physics
Yea that made running the ball nearly impossible. As well as your player going limo the moment they hit their own blockers
Mutant Football League is awesome if you liked the old Blitz games. It literally is Blitz just without human characters. Even has the same announcer Blitz had.
I gotta check that game out. Is that one the turn based strategy game or is that blood bowl?
@@WildLionGames Blood bowl is turn based, always got those two confused as well lol
Mutant Football came before Blitz.
mFL Is so fun.
Struggling not to bust is crazy
Ive been on madden 02 and nfl 2k5, i really wish we had a new nfl game with physics
take me back to the good old days… you know what i mean
@@thegreatone5500 oh yeah yeah
@@Ragnar918 oh yeah yeah
Maximillanmuss is a pdfile
@@grapejam9377 who
Legend Bowl is an awesome game!! Also gotta recommend Football Coach: College Dynasty a great college sim game more in line with Football Manager.
If you're going to showcase games like Retro Bowl and modded emulated classics like 2k5, you might as well throw in the NES version of Tecmo Super Bowl. You can easily find a updated 2025 version
I guess I might have to make a part 2 to this video
I love the retro bowl games and legend bowl games and a fun alternative to CFB for PC users is football coach:college dynasty, it’s very immersive and a great simulator
I'm glad this video came up in my feed, because I didn't know about several of these. I love football, but much prefer a more streamlined, arcade style experience versus a hard-core simulation. 2K5 was a nice balance I still had a lot of fun with, and I loved the presentation of it back in the day. I loved the original NFL blitz, and Techmo Bowl. I have little to no interest in Madden games at all. A few of these games caught my attention, specifically Sunday Rivals, Football Sim, and Retro Bowl. Once the current EA contract expires, I really, really hope this NFL exclusivity crap ends. This 20 year monopoly has sucked. Thanks for the video.
There is a Tecmo Super Bowl community that’s still makes updates to the NFL roster.
😲🫢 "AWESOME BREAKDOWN!!!." 👏🏿. Keep them coming bro!. 😉👍🏾 💯.
Maximum Football coming out next month for free along with NFL Street Reborn Mod coming out 🔥
@@Demiandrogyne maximum football confirmed for october?
@@WildLionGames Q3 confirmed in September
Maximum football is typically dog water tho
I love Sunday Rivals, probably my favorite recent football game. Otherwise I just stick with retro games with roster mods... including Tecmo Super Bowl (NES or SNES), NFL Blitz (N64) or the mentioned NFL2K5 mods.
Something in me really wants to play Legend bowl and ESPECIALLY Sunday Rivals, but their cartoony appearance pushes me away. I dont take madden very seriously, so im very curious about it but I'd like some other opinions
I can understand that. What are you looking for from a football title? They're both very arcadey. My personal preference is the overall aethetic of Sunday rivals but no multi-season capability, limited playbooks and lack of being able to edit teams/players in a .csv is a bummer. I like Legend Bowls franchise mode but the art style doesn't do it for me. Customization is great though
@WildLionGames I want a game that's fun ON the field as much as it is off the field. More recently, I've enjoyed more of a coach mode/simulation football game where I just make players and do fantasy drafts to see how teams grow and create some great bowl games. I like chaos with a bit of realism
@@indigo_sirgaminglegend bowl is decent on the simulation side of things, and you can change simulation stats so the cpu and user don’t have completely different stats. The only problem I have with legend bowl is that outside runs are op.
As funny looking and janky as football simulator is, it really is trying to be something amazing. Physics based tackling like backbreaker is what madden needs, yet they will never do it. Im sure its a hard thing to accomplish since we've only seen true physics based football in like two games, but what its trying to do is fucking awesome
Madden actually used to be physics based, EA changed that when they switched to their Frostbyte engine because it would be cheaper to only work with one engine.
Retro Bowl, Retro Bowl College are my favs to the point I binged play it since its release
Legend Bowl definitely a fun game I recommend if you like that Tecmo Bowl but with good customization
Sunday Night Rivals is awesome, love the customization and just straight up awesome. but Basketball game cannot wait to see
Football Simulator is definitely be a game in my mind playing sometime in the future
ESPN 2K mod is definitely a recommend, and there are definitely other mods as well are awesome as well to check out as well
Backbreaker, YES! so much fun definitely a recommend if you like a good challenge and gameplay sure a fun one. Season mode may not be too deep but I like the premise of the drafting. Tackle alley sure was a fun one
An amazing alternative to madden 25 is madden 25, if you know you know
big brain move
There’s a madden 14 mod that has updated rosters called madden nfl rebuilt. Not sure if the mod is dead cause last time it dropped was 2022 but it’s still fun.
nfl street reborn is one i wanna mention
20 years later and nfl 2k5 is still the Goat. And you didn't even mention the first person football. I'm surprised nfl pro era for VR didn't get a mention.
NFL Blitz 2003. One of the best football games ever
if you’re looking for something to play on your switch (besides legend bowl) or even your phone i’d say axis football 23 is a good alternative
it’s fun but not exactly the most robust experience out there, just don’t go with axis 24 whatever you do
Axis Football is alright. I'm hoping the year off will help them improve gameplay for next year. Franchise is really cool but on the field needs works
@@WildLionGames completely agree
Missed APF2k8 on the 360 or PS3. The best gameplay in football ever.
The "struggle" to not by Madden is easily fixed. Just play any older Madden with a fan-made updated roster. This year's Madden is literally more bare bones than any of the previous games. You're honestly better off playing older Maddens or one of the games listed in this video.
I've been playing madden 11 and 12 on the 360 lately. Also madden 25 2014 on ps4. Those maddens are ten times better than new ones
The latest Rugby video game probably is closer to accurate american football simulation than Madden
@@Homedepotorange what's it called?
Legend Bowl is my favourite football game right now.
Also played quite a lot of Retro Bowl.
Have no intention to play any more EA football games - last one was Madden '18.
I think 18 was the last one I bought too
i perhaps enjoy refactor football simulator compared to backbreaker, such Backbreaker is good and sets the ideal concept of physics-based football. but it does have 2 flaws. lack of cpu vs cpu option and that it's a console only game. So, in a way football simulator kind of fits both appeals for me. that and the destructive sidelines follies that other football games tend to miss. due the curse of the "white line" programming that automatically halts the players on a dime after getting tackled at full speed and force.
Also not sure if you checked out FFFL: Brutalball manager, a Franchise Management Simulation game, based mostly on American Football in a Fantasy setting or i can can only describe it as Legend bowl: Blood bowl edition
Love Retro bowl, shits tight!
sweet
Im surprised you didnt mention axis football 24
Ehh I should've I guess....to be honest I completely forgot about Axis. I'm hoping the year off will help improve the game for axis 26, franchise is pretty sweet but the on field experience is still pretty horrific
@@WildLionGames You mean gameplay wise, yes? So..what if I wanted to run a coach mode type season or just spectate ai v ai games in a simulation franchise? Would you reccomend it then?
CollegeBowl has made the changes that LegendBowl couldn't
100%. College Bowl is the better game of the two.
APF 2k8?
I almost included it for honorable mention. But you can only edit 8 teams, and I was trying to use games where the entire nfl can be replicated.
@@WildLionGames naw you can edit all teams...you need the editor to do it the editor you didnt mention that was also made by King Javo..i have all pro and i have the 1993 roster
I just got the 25 a few days ago, and it looks and feels exactly like 24.
madden 09 all play big head mode is a classic
A proper 3rd person camera option would be so amazing, probably the most unfortunate thing to not be carried from older football games to new, along with the 1000 other features madden insultingly abandoned
I cannot figure out how to get this on my Xbox x 🤦🏾♂️
What emulator do i have to use on pc for backbreaker
Madden 2005 PS2, all you need.
another W vid
@gradeaz8295 good to see you in here!! And thank you
Madden 11 and 12 was technically my first Madden
What would you recommend for doing NFL Imperialism like the RUclipsr Deansworld?
why can’t there be options like this in pro basketball 😫 2k can’t keep getting away with this
@kglomar8661 yeah that's true. We complain about no football options but basketball literally only has 2k. I'm not aware of any indie 5on5 bball games
@@WildLionGames I know a guy making one...
@26k_actual I'm literally in the discord too lolol. What am I talking about up there. Can't wait for yours....been following the devlog regularly
@@WildLionGames haha no worries, can't wait for you to get your hands on it, lots of dynasty mode coming your way :D
To anyone that can help how can i get the updated rosters on 2k5 (or 2k4) for the PS2? I have been looking and searching for a long time.
What’s the song at 8:00
Thankfully played the Madden 25 demo. Saved myself $70
What about wildcard football? What amazing game almost like blitz but with wild cards.
good call good call. have they fixed the card pack issues? I haven't played since the few weekends of launch
@@WildLionGames I think so. add it for the Nintendo switch, but I just got it Xbox one S recently and picked it up. It’s such a fun game.
I like legend bowl and retro bowl a lot. Have you ever tried axis football? Its a pretty good game too
Yeah I like Axis Football. Im a WR on the Denver team for Axis 19-21 I think. but Idk the progress they've made over the last few years has been slim. I hope by taking the year off we see a bigger jump in gameplay for next year
Idk man lol I think I’ll stick with madden 25 good video though 💯💯💯
that's fair! I really don't think Madde 25 is as bad as people make it out to be. thanks for the comment though I appreciate it.
What are all these games on?
Would you switch to virtual reality? PRO ERA on the Quest 3 is fun to play
it's funny you say that b/c my brother has the Quest 2 and a couple years ago I got him Pro Era for Christmas. I checked it out a little bit on Christmas Day and it was a ton of fun from the little bit I played. It's definitely going on my Christmas list this year lol
@@WildLionGames It’s a great game!
Wild Card Football is so much fun!!!
how are they getting away with using nfl names and logos?
Honestly something that really disappoints me is no APF2K8? Come on man. That is literally a reskinned 2k5 gameplay wise and it's perfect
I'll have to make a part 2 I guess. Sorry to disappoint haha. I didn't include it since I think you can only customize up to 8 teams. So while you can have 8 NFL teams in the game, the other slots are going to be fake. But in hindsight I should have at least included it as an honorable mention
How do I get backbreaker
Been on madden 12 it’s the best!!!!
Would like a franchise game that allows me to coach all the teams and create my own league.
Legendbowl looks way more worth it than Madden
NFL 2K5 is the GOAT even without the mod.
Thanks for this
Imagine if this games had the budget that madden has
me personally i play axis football 2024 but i probably should have saved my money for the new maximum football
I want backbreaker but every position is played by a different individual online
there's a game kindof like that on steam. its 7on7 football and all positions are played by real person, I got a pick 6 once and it was so satisfying. but the game itself is okay. wonky animations and weird graphics but its pretty fun
Legend bowl is pretty good. Like 89 madden.
Retro bowl is awesome. So is the college retro bowl
Yeah, I'm just looking for some game I can play online multiplayer that isn't Madden.
I would love to play Sunday Rivals, but unfortunately the game’s creator apparently, suddenly has zero interest in bringing the game to consoles. Even though he said he was going to for years, and even got rude with me about it when I brought it up on the game’s ig page.
yeah Im not entirely sure what happened there. My guess is he got burnt out on the game. I dont think any more updates are coming for it ever. he's all in on a new basketball game. maybe one day years and years down the line but yeah idk. I get it. im sure its stressful solo producing and developing a football game
@@WildLionGames oh no doubt. And I have sympathy for that. I think it’s quite remarkable that the man basically did the entire thing by himself. I’m just saying though, if you’re going to go out of your way to make promises to the consumer, and then out of nowhere, back out of said promises, it’s just not a good look. Shouldn’t have announced over and over again that the game was going to be on consoles unless he knew for sure it was going to happen.
Is Madden 25 for PS5 worth buying?
Not for $70
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I love how most of these options are decades old now. Wild that madden legitimately ruined an entire video game genre
Struggling not to bust😏
The fact that a game from 2004 with a mod to add 2025 stuff looks more enjoyable than Madden 25 is actually crazy and shows how terrible EA is
big facts. I won't lie. it's a bit of a headache to setup for someone like me who isn't very savvy when it comes to modding things but once I figured it out its definitely nice
Legend bowl.only works properly on switch and PC. Do not get it on ps5.
Maximum football pc early assess Nov 7th. Free to play
cant wait! we'll be streaming
We are so screwed. King Javo is way smarter than I am, understands what a good football game could/should be like, and if those 1989 graphics are the best someone like him can do....yea, we are screwed. I think I need to stop being a fan of NFL b/c it's maddening(excuse the pun) to want to play a sports video game but you can't b/c it's made so crappy.
I'm sure he can do better, but I think it's a lesson/showcase that making a video game is hard work, and requires a lot of resources, time, money and people. Same with movies. You ever see how many credits are in a movie? And how large their budgets are? I'm sure if king javo and these other indie devs had access to the resources that EA does we would be ok. But it's hard to do it alone
@@WildLionGames That's what I mean. He is capable, but through no fault of his own, I don't think he has the resources to be close to a competitive level. Your analogy is a good one.
There's a content creator named Karmakut who is big on tactical shooter games and he teamed up with other people to create a game called Bellum. It isn't out yet but looks very promising and if a gamer can be passionate enough to become a developer and make a great tactical shooter game, maybe someone has been out there working on a good football game.
@GenericRUclipsCommenter241 oh yeah I gotchya, my b I misinterpreted you. But I agree, he would have to do something like what Karmakut is doing to make a solid football title. I've been somewhat following the development of that Bellum game and it's looking good so far. I'm eager to get my hands on it one day
ESPN 2k5 is still unbeatable
I don't really like Backbreaker, because it's god damn difficult, and I play sports game to do things I cannot do in real life... However. Playing a position instead of all the team, and the immersion is so cool... and damn at leat they tried, which cannot be said about EA ever...
But the game is bad , and the graphics aren’t as good as madden “at least they tried “ isn’t an excuse . The real issue is ,it’s hard to make a good simulation football game
@@Royale5600 When nobody tries, we're stuck with Madden '25. It's not useless to show the world something else is possible, as this video demonstrate. Then again I don't think Backbreaker is THAT bad. It's alright, probably a bit too hard.
@@pierreolivierlepage664 I would agree if the games mentioned were good
I think Backbreaker may have been a little too ahead of its time. Meaning if it dropped today, I think it would get a ton of support because of the strong potential with its exceptional gameplay. but when you think of the nature of the football gaming world and social media and RUclips back in 2009, it just didnt have any support. Madden wasn't as hated as it is now and APF2k8 was just released and indie sports games weren't a thing. but if this dropped today I do believe people would be all over it because of how technology has changed
It’s really not that hard to not buy Madden. Last one I think I got had Ray Lewis on the cover.
Nobody is still playing their 360 because they've all melted by now 😂
NFL 2K5 has aged out, It’s time to let that go very few games are enjoyable for 20 years, it’s a good game BUT it just got old and it isn’t going to do it for me anymore. It had a good run
To each their own
Im still playing Tetris almost 40yrs later among many classic games.. until GTA 6 releases haha
really hasnt
How or where can I find 2K5?
You can’t. It’s only supported by older consoles like the Xbox 360. If you have like a Xbox One, Series X or a PS5 then you can’t play it. Sorry.
anybody know if 2k25 mod is on ps5?
I don't think so unfortunately. Xbox series X works I think
you cant
Great video but I can’t play a football game without being able to play defense.
that's always been the biggest complaint about retro bowl since launch. Im not sure the dev will implement defense ever. there has been talk of at least defensive strategy being added in
trust me, im not struggling.
😂😂
5:08 that would suck so bad
Not the dig at Deshaun Watson 😂😂😂 Us Browns fans can never win
#BringBackNFL2K
Why did u not include the NFL Street games u those are very incredible games it has a straight up career mode and an nfl challenge modes where u do missions and stuff dat dupid
NFL Street is fun, but I was more trying to bring up games that are 11on11 football and follow the same rules and have all 32 nfl teams in a league. Same reason I didn't mention apf 2k8 because you can't recreate the NFL in its entirety.
@@WildLionGames ohhhhhhhh
@Bobinnintenbro64 great reccomendation though. Just ayed street 2 a few weeks ago again I miss that game
@@WildLionGames ima become a boomer. here they don’t make football video games like they do anymore lol
@@Rrr17-j4q 😂😂😂
I'm stuck with star wars outlaws 😡
oh nooo. is it bad??
@@WildLionGames not bad just about the sqme ubisoft just this one is a star wars
@@Davidjon1946 ahhh yes. Ubisoft, where open worlds are as wide as the ocean and as deep as a puddle
@@WildLionGames its like a bad romance and i fall for the lies everytime this time its going to be better i promise!! ( avatar) outlaws.
And the next thing i know the cops are taking one of us away . 😂
Play CFB
Still supporting EA
Or NFL pro era on quest 2-3
yeah I wanna get a quest so I can get that game. I saw that pro era 3 is coming out soon
Retro bowl is fucking fun
There isn’t anyone replacing Madden with Legend bowl
Some gamers will. Some people want something different for a change.