The HARDEST starfighter to pilot in Star Wars Squadrons
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2021
- 🔶 We look at one of the TOUGHEST starfighters to pilot in EA Motive's Star Wars Squadrons. What ship is it, and why is it far more difficult to play with than the rest of the starfighters?!
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I suppose then, there's a reason Imperial High Command decided that defender pilots would only be selected from TIE interceptor pilots who had flown at least twenty combat missions and survived.
yet somehow ezra who has like barely any starfighter training takes down like 4 highly trained tie interceptor pilots easily.
@@markgeorge2200 wow, Ezra is such a Mary Sue! /s
@@lcpunkrawk well yes but it was also a testament how in actual star wars the prototype tie defender was so powerful that an untrained pilot could outskill heavily trained ones. The tie defender in squadrons is only a fraction of the actual prototype one in rebels
@@markgeorge2200 It more so has to do with the clunky and awkward writing in Rebels
@@VGLounge true but remember the tie defender is nerfed in squadrons. In actual star wars it's way faster than an a wing and has a hull similar to other ties.
Counter argument.
The TIE Defender can be useful in the right hands.
B-wings seemingly can not. Thus, B-wings are the hardest to pilot.
Or they would be if people piloted them.
If you don't pilot one, you should. I mean- if you don't like it you don't like it, but after flying interceptors all my career, dogfighting in a B-wing is a really fun experience. If you can manage to pull it off.
@@AWACS_Snowblind you can do whatever you want in Dogfights and just have fun, but if you're choosing the B-wing in competitive in any rank above the very lowest, you're throwing and you are letting the team down.
I personally like the b-wing. b-wings are slow however their boosters are powerful and can last a long time. drifting around makes up for the low maneuverability and heavy laser cannons are pretty powerful. they also have both laser and ion cannons. with rotary cannons and good aim with the assist of drifts, it can destroy any tie fighter within seconds
The gyro is a must-run as your position affects maneuverability.
@@AWACS_Snowblind Career? LOL!
This is a GAME! (Not rl!)
It's funny how when you were describing everything that this miracle ship can do, you were being all coy about "ooh what ship is he talking about" but we all knew you were referring to the Defender lmao
Haha, yeah. The video was aimed at newer players!
- Charlie
Especially if you go to the comments first...
Great video, but I would like to recall the game Star Wars: Tie Fighter. In it, Thrawn designed the Missile Boat as a powerhouse in its own right, but it was specifically designed to counter the threat Admiral Zaarin posed with his Tie Defender squadrons. As such, playing Squadrons with a load out designed to counter the T/D may be frustrating, but it is not without precedence backed up with lore.
The TIE Defender requires the most active energy management but I think the TIE Interceptor is the hardest ship to master. Most Interceptors are easy pickings but, if you do face a good TIE Interceptor pilot, you know they must be very good.
Once ran into an amazing TIE/in pilot by the name of Cornbread. Absolutely wrecked my team. The moment one of us targeted him, we called him out to the rest if the team
It's really a petty they're letting squadrons die and won't adapt the strategy to its appeal. I hope it will survive the post support era and be opened up to further modding to stay alive. I think Squadrons is a beast for esports we just need more content user maps and modes combined.
6:35 this reminds me of legends where Thrawn developed the Missile Boat to counter Admiral Zarin's stole TIE Defenders. Just me?
I just made my post remembering my play throughs of Star Wars: Tie Fighter and saw this, lol
Remember I just send 50 missiles on missile boat just to kill tie defenders 😂
TIE/D: **laughs in shields**
BTL-A4: **laughs harder in ion turret**
That’s my y-wing built right there 😝
1:38: Oh no, he's grinning in a lot of Star Wars universes across the vast Multiverse.
In the meantime, Zaarin might also be smiling in some of them.
Tie defender: easiest ship to use best for fleet destroying for empire and my all time favorite ship!!!
Don't think it should get nerfed because as in real aviation combat most the time you do have to put together a specific layout to take out a particular type of enemy depending on how fast the ship is and maneuverable you're going up against so I think it's pretty cool in the fact that sometimes you actually have to have a specific layout to go and take something out
Great video as always! 👍
Ton of potential and not being used properly? B-Wing time?
I love the b-wing, I am really hoping for. A buff to come abs make it useable again.
The B-Wing doesn't have potential. That's the problem. Not against players that have some idea how to fly, at least.
@@thefolder69 But do you realise, that you don't have to be an edgy hater, literally replying to almost every comment regarding the B-wing and telling, how flying it is for noobs, idiots, people who don't know how to play?
Bro chill, you're actually making yourself look more like a person who doesn't know how to play Squadrons.
I think it's a bit of everything for me since i use pc and don't have a flight stick yet. But if i should choose one, then i think it might be the B-wing
tie defender is by far my favorite ship. I was only playing in top bronze back when I played but I would go entire games without dying.
I also needed APS on though
I didn't find it all that difficult to pick up because its shield based gameplay made more sense to me than always having your health dropping with few consistent regen options for Empire. Everything about it made sense to me, especially the switching of power and use of the APS (which is just used for shields like 80% of the time as your get out of jail free card). Sure I'm not GREAT with it, but it is by far the most intuitive and productive ship for me when I'm playing empire. I just wish you weren't absolutely dead as soon as your shields go down.
I picked the game up yesterday almost exclusively because I heard the tie defender was added, my favourite Star Wars ship by far, and I’ve found it relatively easy and fun and rewarding, power management came very easily to me and dead drifting is micro drifting and APS shield boosting is already in my muscle memory. I think it’s because I started off with it right off the bat so I quickly acclimated to the drifting and power management, probably making me a better pilot in all of the ships since they don’t seem to need to same level of power management and drift skill to operate. I’ve found the intercepter and A-wing to be by far the hardest to pilot. Sure they’re the fastest and most manoeuvrable, but they have such a slim margin of error and most of the time you’ll be too worried about surviving to really inflict a lot of damage. I know in a professional’s hand they’re the deadliest, but at least to me it’s just survival for the sake of surviving and not much attacking
I haven’t played squadrons in almost a year but I was super good with the defender I’m considering playing again an getting better at objective modes but I’d have to relearn everything but what does everyone think.
I am interested in the other video. Loved this one.
The defender did match its original description as being the best and hardest piece to use on the chess board, but then the devs decided it required more nerfing than the A-wing somehow. Love still getting wrecked by untouchable dots that zip in and out of sensor range before you can even divert your own power. They obviously favor it
If there's 2 or more Defenders on the opposing team, I usually switch to Ion Lazers. Especially if I'm playing as an interceptor.
Hello! Would you say HOTAS is superior to controller/mouse+keyboard? If I practiced a lot with both which would end up giving me advantage?
This game takes some practice to get good at. The only ship I'm even decent at after a couple months is the A-wing.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE OTHER LEGENDS TIE VARIANTS!
I love the tie defender
Another weakness of the TIE Defender which I think you didn't mention is that it's a really large target, especially compared to the other TIE's... even the TIE Bomber!
I mean, I don't even play this game really, but it seems like the Defender is pretty well balanced. You really have to know what you are doing and constantly manage the systems without error, or you're superfighter is turned into a wreck by a passing B-Wing with power to weapons that simply saw you fly through his viewscreen and opened up with it's whole Laser and Ion cannon complement.
If the Defender is so weak to Ion anything, maybe people should just load more Ion missiles instead of regular concussion missiles. If I understand this right, someone who selects Ion cannons for his fighter has ONLY those, no Lasers anymore... right?
Well, maybe the fighters that actually had them, like the Y-Wing, B-Wing and the TIE Defender should just HAVE twin Ion cannons(slightly auto targeting Ions in the Y-Wings case, since they are in a forward fixed turret which used to be a full 360 degree manned defense turret) that can't be removed or replaced or otherwise messed with, end of story!
Rather than "nerfing" the Defender, they should just make the Ion weapons, especially the cannons, a more attractive choice for the players to take... and also give the B-Wing something special that makes it more surviveable... an extra long boost for example.
It's so funny to see that the Defender is basically the skill ceiling of normal level play... As well as the skill floor of the competitive scene!
If you need help to master it, I advise you to read
FlyingLama's Guide to the TIE/D Defender (you can find it on google), it's by far the greatest ressource available for it :)
As it should be. I'm actually impressed that the devs managed to find a way to convey that lore accurate aspect of the craft into a multiplayer setting. It may be pretty polarizing atm but damn if it isn't true to lore.
Great video
I think ywing and tie bomber are hardest as they get teamed so quickly
Wait how do I get the tie defender
They crippled the T/D so us old school pilots don't crush the rebel scum. Before it was introduced into squadrons; we were using T/F ant T/B instead.
Is this befor or after nerf
I thought this was a lore video about which ships are the hardest to pilot then saw squadrons at the end of the title 😂
this begs for dedicated power controls. i pro flightstick with power sliders might make this very OP
Every time I see a fellow tie defender player they always carry the team to victory
how would you fix the B-wing in Squadrons?
Speed. If it was a bit faster it would have been a pretty good ship.
Man I wish I got this game when it was for the ps4 monthly exclusives, I thought it wasn't good then.
I would like the video you suggested. If that does anything
I think T/D is an easy ship to learn because of the APS which is basically one get out of jail card for me every 30 seconds or so. But it is hard to master, its ceiling is so high if you watch what it can do in the hand of pro players.
So the TIE Defender is the Star Wars equivalent of the Hawker Siddeley Harrier - only the best pilots can fly it well.
I can at least use the Defender, but I still struggle with the B-Wing
Imperial ships are simply superior
Gets in the cockpit, if you're behind it you're an astromech
Do one on the bwing
Hi scout
Im so mad I found out about this game after it died
I could tell it was hard, just from when I was playing during the free play weekend
The strongest ships are usually the hardest to master.
WAIT I DIDNT KNOW THERE WERE TIE DEFENDERS
good thing when i get this game im only going to play tie defender
No, please, don't be a fanboy... ;(
I prefer the TIE Avenger. Maarek Stele approved ;).
Tie defenders pretty good I use it a lot but warning don’t put full power trust me you’ll regret it when yall’re dog fighting
B-wing. It handles like a truck.
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You didn't mention the aspect of boost gasping that actually makes the Defender OP. Yes, if you boost while power is in engines it depletes just as fast as it charges... but if you build up boost (which is fast) then you swtich power to guns or shields you can boost like crazy and now dead drift while your boost energy drains much slower and then as soon as your boost bar is getting low, just swtich quickly back to engines to fill it up super quick and rinse and repeat. Then add advanced power management to this (to completely remove power out of engines to make the dead drifts even more intense while also draining boost power less) to make the Defender GOD like. And THAT is why you see pro players using Defenders... add in some macros to make all of this SUPER EASY to do and that's the current problem we deal with today haha
Doesn't surprise me. The issue here is that the hit reg on ships that are dead drifting is broken.
Just started the video. I think it’s the b-wing.
Edit: nah you’re wrong, I wreck in the tie D lol
Tie advanced-?
Good A-Wing Players should have an Ion laser build incase there is too many TIE Defender players. And Defender mains are getting proper salty over it.
That one dislike is the salty dev who thought they were easy.
This game is so underrated
It’s dogwater
@@bennittotheburrito9606 says you I have some decent fun with it
Wait? The Defender is considered hard to play? I found it the easiest and most intuitive ship in the game, from the first second... It's unkillable and does a shitload of damage, without a lot of learning. Like, all the reasons mentioned here make it super easy to play. A LOT easier than any onter imperial ship.
this ship is basically falls down to two things, dead drift, and switching power fast, pinning a good defender down is very hard, and honestly they do need a nerf
Unkillable? It’s the second easiest to kill after the TIE Interceptor.
@@dat581 clearly haven't played against a good defender pilot then
@@insomnia2869 I’ve played against quite a few. Most of them died.
Strange, considering they were somewhat easy to use back in TIE Fighter.
So, I play Squadrons on PS4, which means that I need PS+ to play online, but I don't have it..... yet. However, I've done a lot of Fleet Battles VS AI and gotten pretty good with the TIE Defender... so does that mean that when I actually go to online games, that I'll be able to dominate with the TIE Defender since I'd be with a bunch of low-skill players (I don't know if I would be queued based on my rank or XP level)?
Player base is getting low, so there's a good chance you'll be matched up with a mix low, mid, and high tier players. Discord has good groups you can team up with. I'm in Grey Squadron and they're pretty chill guys, will teach you the ropes, and communicate to make for better matches. It's good to have a main but have at least two other ships you can go to on each side, because if I see a good Tie Defender against me, I switch to ion rockets and make him my new best friend.
So thats why i allways lose
Ship with tons of potential but isn't being utilized properly? How about a video on the B-Wing, except there is no potential and there is no proper way to use it.
B wing is in a rough spot right now. I feel like it either needs an agile hull component or a shield buff, tho the agile hull component would make it a bit strong
@@markgeorge2200 it wouldn't make it strong giving it adgile hull, right now, its problem lay in its low over all hp and slow speed, making it a sitting duck for most of the time you see it being used
@@markgeorge2200 something that makes it turn better doesn't seem like a buff that would make it broken since the damn thing turns like a brick normally. The actually game breaking buffs would either be to speed or power, 2 aspects that buff its strengths.
Power is self explanatory; speed though? It would break the B-wing because then it would allow the B-wing to unleash outta cap ship melting capabilities in quicker time and that's not needed.
However, for something of a flying cross through space, not being able to turn seems a bit off don't you think? At the very least it should be able to turn at the rate of a Y or X wing. But ONLY the standard turn. It gets by just fine drifting, but right now B wing drifting is a crutch, not an augment. It may not supposed to escape without help, but it's not supposed to be helpless when trying to escape. Inn a way out could function like an A-10 Thunderbolt II. Low top speed, but high maneuverability (at least above average, esp for a bomber) with devastating firepower.
@@insomnia2869 slow speed i think is ok as it being able to deliver its devastating payload *faster* would be broken. But maybe it could be a little more durable or at the very leastthe buff to maneuverability would at least allow for more skilled pilots to force overshoots from pursuers. I can see the Bwing winning fights through forcing jousts or overshoots where it would be able to bring its cap ship firepower to bare as the enemy passes within sight.
@@SrMissileMonkey the problem comes from the fact it's made to be fast and nimble, it has the fastest charging boost and the fastest boost speed in the game, meaning it can just evade for days..
I honestly don’t think the tie defender is too hard of a ship to play. I usually do fairly well with it even though I’m in... Hero 😔
Right, imo it's the easiest imperial ship to play. Unless you are new to the game and have no clue about power management, you'll do at least decent with it.
Even when flown well the Defender is an easy kill in an A-Wing. With the no damage while drifting bug gone they have nowhere to hide. The problem for the Defender is it’s huge profile that makes it easy to hit from any angle, especially side on.
I run the reflect hull and rapid fire cannons. You sneak in and unload your guns then boost out beyond 1500m. If he is dead next target, if not rinse and repeat.
Just never go head on!
TIE Fighters seem to be much more of a problem because it takes so long to bash down their hulls.
the deffender totaly spoilt the game. having a ship that cant be hit if you fly it a certain way is no fun for anyone. one of the best space combat games ever then totaly ruin it with that ship very disapointing
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