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@@raveanjohnson6748 1 CORINTHIANS 15:20-23 , " 20.But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. WHEN IS HIS COMING ? JOHN 6:39-40 , " 39.And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER ; THE ONLY ONE WHO HAST IMMORTALITY THAT HAST LIVED IN A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY . THE 24 ELDERS WILL BE PART OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION , AT CHRIST RETURN TO REIGN ON THIS EARTH FOR 1000 YEARS ; THEY ARE THE SAINTS ; THE 144,000 ISRAELITES ; THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT . 2 TIMOTHY 4:6-8 , " 6.For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. THIS IS WHEN PAUL AND THE OTHER ISRAELITES WILL RECEIVE THEIR CROWNS . ROMANS 8:22-23 , " 22.For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. THE WHOLE CREATION WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM ALL NATIONS IN THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ( REVELATION 7:9-17 ) . AND NOT ONLY THEY , BUT OURSELVES ALSO , WOULD BE THE ISRAELITES , THE ONLY NATION UNDER THE COVENANT WITH THE FATHER , THE FIRST ADOPTION ; THE ONES HE DID FOREKNOW ; THE ONES HE PREDESTINATE ( REVELATION 7:1-8 ) . ROMANS 8:28-30 , " 28.And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. JESUS RETURNS AT THE OPENING OF THE SIXTH SEAL ; GATHER THE SAINTS / ELECTS / 144,000 ISRAELITES , AS HE DESCENDS FROM THE THIRD HEAVEN , AS THEY ASCENDS FROM THE FIRST HEAVEN TO MET THE LORD IN THE SECOND HEAVEN ; THEN FIGHT THE WICKED ; TO DESCEND AT THE MOUNT OF OLIVES ; TO SETUP HIS KINGDOM IN ZION , JERUSALEM . 1 THESSALONIANS 4:16-17 , " 16.For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. REVELATION 14 , " 1-5 , " 1.And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God . THE 24 ELDERS ARE THE SONS OF THE HOUSE OF AARON . 1 CORONICLES 24:1-19 , " 1.Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar. 2But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office. 3And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service. 4And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar; and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers. 5Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar. 6And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar. 7.Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah, 8The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim, 9The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin, 10The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah, 11The ninth to Jeshua, the tenth to Shecaniah, 12The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim, 13The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab, 14The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer, 15The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses, 16The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel, 17The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul, 18The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah. 19These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the LORD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded him. THESE ELDERS WILL BE SERVING JESUS CHRIST DURING HIS 1000 YEAR REIGN IN ZION . EZEKIEL 44:15-16 , " 15.But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD: 16They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge. THE 24 ELDERS WILL ALSO BE AT THE FATHER'S KINGDOM IN NEW JERUSALEM ( REVELATIONS 4 & 5 ) . JOHN WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ; THE SEVEN SEALS ARE THE HISTORY OF THE SONS OF MEN BECOMING THE SONS OF GOD ; WITH THE FIRST SEAL BEING SATAN ON A WHITE HORSE , WITH A BOW AND CROWN , CONQUERING ADAM . ISAIAH 46:10 , " 10.Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: SHALOM !
Do you not believe then that the OT Saints get resurrected at the end of the tribulation? Like in Daniel 12:1 and in Revelation 20:4-5 ? This would mean the 24 cannot be including the 12 tribes of Israel, because they have not been resurrected yet. I'm also wondering how in the Rev. 5:5 one of the elders can be speaking to John, if he's a raptured saint from the future, then how can he be more than just a picture and is actually speaking to John in the present? Would love to know your views on this.
IMHO, 12 were chosen because there are are 12 kine like our birth stones, NOT that the Lord is limited to 12, but to represent the Bride being like 12 precious stones, the same can be said for the elders, uniquely tied to the 4 beasts are likely a parable for being THIER "6 wings" likely capable to be plucked themselves as a "lion was plucked of it's wings & made to walk as a man" per Daniel (from 1st position to 3rd), OUR LORD, now come down like a doorway HIMSELF between heaven & earth to take "candlesticks" &/or to "crown" as a WAY MAKER.
God never sends you into a situation alone, God goes before you, He stands beside you, He walks behind you. Whatever situation you have right now be confident. God is with you. AMEN 🙏🙏
Hi! I like this video and the effort put in the research. I would say the origin of the 24 elders is still open. Melchizedek was created by God since it did not have mother or father and he was a priest just like we are priests and kings with God likewise he could have created the 24 elders too. We will definitely find out when we get to Heaven 🙂 About the rapture, I agree with you. I believe there is enough evidence in the Bible to indicate it will occur before the tribulation. Many blessings!
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@@kaffs6569 ruclips.net/video/bcH0nMt-pTU/видео.html Hope the lyrics of this hymn encourage and uplift you. And let's be mindful that Jesus says, "IN THIS WORLD YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLES, BUT TAKE HEART! I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD" - John 16:33 Notice He did not say..."overcome the troubles" you see 🤔 May the PEACE of GOD be with you 😇 Be BLESSED👼
This is not right. The 24 elders are ancient beings of the first creation that didn’t follow the counsel of the devil to sin against God and were mattered. To understand this mystery you need to first remember that there was a creation before man which Lucifer was in charge of before his rebellion and fall. This 24 defended the faith and were honored by God with gold crowns and thrones to rule at the appointed time. The darkness that covered the earth in Genesis was as a result of God destroying the earth and its inhabitants like he did in the time of Noah. The 24 elders are those who kept themselves holy onto the Lord and thus were not destroyed with the first creation..
@@omoruyiodosa5495 Hey and Praise God through His Son Jesus Christ. Your explanation seems very likely to come from the Apocalypha books that were taken from the the Bible. I have been listening and watching "Life is Spiritual" whereby the preacher once spoke of that other world before Lucifer disobeyed The Father. These explains a lot about the presence of dinosaur and giant people fossils... How did they happen? These questions make me, partly, believe your opinion. 😊
I can't imagine it's just 2days ago; We've a program with my kids where we're reading the entire bible and they're able to read the entire bible off-head. Right now we're in the Revelation. Now my son who is 9yrs old asked me, "Dad and who are these 24elders before the throne" I confidently looked at him and told him, my son let me finish what I'm doing then answer you. By the time I was finishing, he had slept. I was Very lucky. I couldn't believe to see the pop-up notification about what what the solid question in my mind. God bless you for this most important info of the hour
Was you lucky,do you know who you are saying you are ,but keep teaching your son and find the truth of the ALL MIGHTY,AND follow Him not and man made churches religion
@LaVictor Sermons .This mystery is great, You need to really have an open mind to understand God's mysteries. The 24 Elders can't be the 12 tribes and the 12 Apostles.John was still alive. The 24 wear crowns,seated on thrones and white robe which means they are kings( not kings of Israel but kings as rank) and the white robe means they are holy. They are not humans.They are Elohims.
Wow! This is very enlightening, especially as you backed it up with the word of God as evidence. O Lord, please continue to reveal Yourself to us.. help us to know you deeper and correct any wrong perception or misunderstanding we have about You in Jesus name. Amen
This has been extremely enlightening for me. Its the best explanation of the twenty-four elders I've heard alongside supporting Bible scripture. I'm always grateful for receiving God's wisdom which I believe comes by the leading of the Holy Spirit. Our God lives and He reigns. He knows and declares the end from the beginning. Hallelujah. Amen. 🙏🏾🤍🕊
Excellent video with truest meaning of 24 elders. Praise God 24 elders are symbolic beings of 12 old testament prophets and 12 new testament apostles which further represent the Old Testament Church of believers and New Testament Church of believers. Hallelujah Amen. So, all 24 elders represent the saints of God from the creation of the world till the end of the world. Hallelujah Amen. May God richly bless you and your ministry, my dear Brother in Christ. I am Arnold from Ahmedabad, India.
AMEN THAT WAS EXCELLENT EXPLANATION AND WAS EVEN COMPARED TO GOD'S HOLY BOOK THE BIBLE . I FELT IT THAT YOU WERE INSPIRED . OUR GOD IS REALY USING HIS PEOPLE IN THE EARTH THESE LAST DAYS , YOU WERE NOT ON A HURRY TO GET OVER WITH IT ,YOU SPOKE SLOWLY AND CLEARLY . IT WAS ENJOYABLE TO LISTEN TO , AND TO SEE THE PICTURE'S THAT EXPLAINS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER . I THINK THAT YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE BUTTON WITH THE TWELVE TRIBES AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES .WE WANT TO HEAR MORE BECAUSE IT IS VERY UPLIFTING AND KEEP US THINKING ABOUT OUR BEAUTIFUL HOME WHERE ARE PREPARING TO GO ONE DAY VERY SOON . BLESS YOUR DEAR HEART MY DEAR BRO AND MAY YOU KEEP ON WINNING SOULS FOR HIS KINGDOM . Amen 🎉 .
I just love the way God talks to us also! My mom and I was just talking a couple of hours ago about the prophecy about before Yashua return if the Word would be preached to the whole world, which I think is has been, or to every nation, tribe and tounge, which I believe it has not yet been done. I told mom I would have to check and see then I watched your video and you showed what the Word says. God is so so so so so so so GOOD! SHALOM
I actually itched to hear you reference the mention of that last theory. The 24 Elders that worship before GOD endlessly have always been perceived as the elders representing the 12 Tribes of Israel, and the 12 Disciples. And those 2 Scriptures- from Mathew 19 and Revelations 21 quite lend credence to that line of thinking. That explanation of the theory comes quite naturally. May the Holy Ghost continue to illuminate our hearts on these profound mysteries
Excellent!! Well done !!! The 24 Elders are EXACTLY who the Scriptures say they are in Revelation 5:9. I subscribed to your excellent channel. We must ALWAYS interpret scripture from scripture & get 2 or 3 witnesses from scripture- WHICH you DID ! Bravo ! And as for Kat- I smoked her bad knowledge of the scriptures out long ago. She’s a precious woman with a peculiar imagination. I don’t doubt she loves the Lord. She’s just NOT scriptural. We are to test the spirits.
I tend to disagree on the context of who the 24 elders are in this video...the 24 elders are simply beings created by God to honour his great name as the king of kings, it's why the heaven is defined by several entities, for example; The mountain of assembly, The holy mountain, Zion , The New Jerusalem, The Invisible palace....they represent God as the king, number 24 represent the periodic times i.e 12 hours of daytime and 12 hours of dusk, read your scriptures right and find out why they worship him day and night
@@evanmwangi9675 JOHN WAS IN THE SPIRIT , LIKE IN REVELATION 1 ( I WAS IN THE SPIRIT ON THE LORD'S DAY ) HOW MANY LORD'S ARE THERE ( THE FATHER & CHRIST = PSALM 110:1 ) WHEN IS THE LORD'S DAY ? FOR JESUS , THE SEVENTH DAY , AT HIS KINGDOM . FOR THE FATHER , THE EIGHTH DAY , AT HIS KINGDOM . Are the 24 elders angels/heavenly beings or redeemed men to the God of Israel ? Revelation 4:4,10 , " 4.And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. 10.The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 2 Timothy 4:6-8 , " 6.For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7.I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8.Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. James 1:12 , " 12.Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Revelation 2:10 , " 10.Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 1 Peter 5:4 , " 4.And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory. Revelation 3:11 , " 11.Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. CROWNS ARE SYMBOLS WHICH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE OBTAIN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD ; ANGELS WHICH DID NOT FALL WITH SATAN HAST ALWAYS HAD THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD ; NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DO I SEE ANGELS WITH CROWNS . 1 Chronicles 24:1-18 , " 1.Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar. 2But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office. 3And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service. 4And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar; and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers. 5Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar. 6And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar. 7Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah, 8The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim, 9The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin, 10The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah, 11The ninth to Jeshua, the tenth to Shecaniah, 12The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim, 13The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab, 14The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer, 15The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses, 16The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel, 17The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul, 18The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah. The church is the covenant between the Father and the only nation that he hast made a covenant with , the children of Israel . They are the anointed ones . Psalm 105:10-15 , " 10.And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant: 11.Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance: 12.When they were but a few men in number; yea, very few, and strangers in it. 13.When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people; 14.He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; 15.Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. Believing Gentiles are not under the covenant of the Father , but grafted into the covenant under the blood of Christ . Numbers 3:11-12 " 11.And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 12.And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel instead of all the firstborn that openeth the matrix among the children of Israel: therefore the Levites shall be mine; The Levites are to conduct the services of the God of Israel ; in the covenant through Moses ; in the covenant in Jesus Christ kingdom ; in the covenant in the father's kingdom . THE 24 ELDERS IN REVELATION ARE THE DIVISIONS OF THE SONS OF AARON , THE SONS OF AARON ; ELEAZAR , AND ITHAMAR . The apostle John in his heavenly body at the Father's kingdom in New Jerusalem on the new earth in Revelation 4 & 5 . The ending from the beginning ; like a writer at the end of his life , reflecting back on his life from the past . IN REVELATION 5 , THE ONE ON THE THRONE IS THE FATHER ; THE LAMB IS JESUS CHRIST . There is no rapture or seven year tribulation ; the great tribulation in Matthew 24;21 , is the tribulation of the nation of Israel from 70 A.D. , to Christ return on the opening of the sixth seal in Revelation 6 ; to gather the saints in Revelation 7:1-8 : The 144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel ; to reign with him for 1000 years . The opening of the 7th seal happens in Revelations 8-10 after the 1000 reign of Christ ; with the seventh trumpet in revelation 10 , and seventh vial judgment in Revelation 16 ; which is the final judgment of the earth before the great white throne judgment . The ones coming out of great tribulation in Revelation 7:14 , are all men/women from all nations in the Father's kingdom ; from the time that we went into great tribulation at the fall of Adam in the garden of Eden , to the completion of the creation . Shalom !
@@evanmwangi9675did you watch the video. His logic is sound. His use of Scripture backs up every point. You seem to be shooting from the hip with your interpretation. God tells us clearly, if we study and parse it out, using Scripture to interpret Scripture. We are not left to our own hunches and intuitions. As Peter relates, no prophecy is of private interpretation. We don't just get to make it up. The mystics do that and always end up in a ditch.
Hi, GOD has already given you the GRACE to make heaven and he did it before you were born. In fact GOD did this roughly 2000 years ago. You don't make heaven; it's not something you earn. You receive "grace" and "eternal life" from Jesus Christ. It is a free gift from GOD that one accepts and trust in.
@@marklorde One must take care of oneself and ones family first before you move to take care of the world. In fact GOD says to love not the world neither the things in the world. The world has already been judged and has been found wanting and will be destroyed.
God Bless you. I have been reading the Bible & doing research concerning Revelation. In my own church there is different believes regarding the rapture of the church. Thank you for your insights and wisdom. I belief the Word of God proves itself. Glad you used verses to back up your thoughts. God meant for the Bible to be understood by all those who seek him. But we all need to do our part by praying & studying it. Thank you for sharing.
The explanation on the twenty four elders is good. But the explanation of the futuristic views defy sound biblical doctrine. I believe it is not a good explanation. Let me just pin point one from your explanation. In the book of Daniel there is no seven years of great tribulation. I don't know where that is coming from.
The word of God is absolute. Having followed your exposition, the scriptural evidence seals everything. A pre- tribulation rapture believer for the bible says so.
This was very well done!! I am glad I found your channel ☺️ I checked out several of your videos, and they seem very sound, and yes, this is what I always believed about the 24 elders . But I never thought about how this connected with the pre rapture !! And the scripture verses about the foundations and gates of the new city !! Wow, this is so good!! And that you ended with the gospel!!! I will be watching your videos , subscribed, and sharing !! Thank you for doing these!!
God bless you for this content. I appreciate the fact that you use the Bible to explain your facts. God bless you and increase your wisdom and understanding.
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There are answers that we will only have when we get there. The kingdom of God is full of mysteries…who can search the heart of God! I am eager to meet the 24 elders!!!
WONDERFUL!! Thank you for helping me to understand this better! Makes perfect sense that the 12 sons of Jacob and 12 Apostles represent the totality of all Believers! What a wondrous day it will be to rule and reign with Christ Jesus! 🙏✝️
@@JerryGnexprobably bc he helped to fulfill scriptures and we know he comes to the realization of what he did before he takes his life.. He was in regret and I’m sure he asked for full repentance
@@teahgurl Mathias by the other apostles but I believe God chosen was Saul ! And Jesus said it was better if Judas wasn’t born so I don’t think he’s one of the twelve
This is so profound. I have always followed the prophecy in the book of revelation and this is one area that I always struggled to understand. May the Good Lord continue to bless you 🙏
Chapters 1-20 of Revelation alreády has been fulfilled at the cross of Jesus. IT IS FINISHED! Keep in mind the Bible was mainly written for the people of Israel. Its only at the cross when the gentiles were brought into oneness with Christ. The biggest revelation of all times was given to Paul.. Christ within! Col 1:26,27 'the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in (ín!) you, the hope of glory.
Thank you brother for taking your time to explain us about 24 elders. I hope you are correct but I believe that the time is coming soon to see them . I just can’t wait that moment. Mean time we prepare ourselves like that beautiful bride for our Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah Amen ❤
If twenty 24 elders are 12 apostles and and twelve sons of Israel,then how john the apostle could able talk to them,because he also counted in that 24 elders its mean there must be 23 not 24. How john can see himself in that 24 elders,how john the apostle can be two.person.he is the one who withnesing how he can be with 24 elders at same time.
..probably the best thought out presentation over this topic that I have heard so far,...but I have only been around for 70 years. There are so many interesting topics in scripture,...and very likely be made clear to us soon.
@@veronicanovember9669 1 CORINTHIANS 15:20-23 , " 20.But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. WHEN IS HIS COMING ? JOHN 6:39-40 , " 39.And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER ; THE ONLY ONE WHO HAST IMMORTALITY THAT HAST LIVED IN A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY . THE 24 ELDERS WILL BE PART OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION , AT CHRIST RETURN TO REIGN ON THIS EARTH FOR 1000 YEARS ; THEY ARE PART OF THE SAINTS ; THE 144,000 ISRAELITES ; THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT . 2 TIMOTHY 4:6-8 , " 6.For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. THIS IS WHEN PAUL AND THE OTHER ISRAELITES WILL RECEIVE THEIR CROWNS . ROMANS 8:22-23 , " 22.For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. THE WHOLE CREATION WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM ALL NATIONS IN THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ( REVELATION 7:9-17 ) . AND NOT ONLY THEY , BUT OURSELVES ALSO , WOULD BE THE ISRAELITES , THE ONLY NATION UNDER THE COVENANT WITH THE FATHER , THE FIRST ADOPTION ; THE ONES HE DID FOREKNOW ; THE ONES HE PREDESTINATE ( REVELATION 7:1-8 ) . ROMANS 8:28-30 , " 28.And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. JESUS RETURNS AT THE OPENING OF THE SIXTH SEAL ; GATHER THE SAINTS / ELECTS / 144,000 ISRAELITES , AS HE DESCENDS FROM THE THIRD HEAVEN , AS THEY ASCENDS FROM THE FIRST HEAVEN TO MET THE LORD IN THE SECOND HEAVEN ; THEN FIGHT THE WICKED ; TO DESCEND AT THE MOUNT OF OLIVES ; TO SETUP HIS KINGDOM IN ZION , JERUSALEM . 1 THESSALONIANS 4:16-17 , " 16.For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. REVELATION 14 , " 1-5 , " 1.And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God . THE 24 ELDERS ARE THE SONS OF THE HOUSE OF AARON . 1 CORONICLES 24:1-19 , " 1.Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar. 2But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office. 3And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service. 4And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar; and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers. 5Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar. 6And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar. 7.Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah, 8The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim, 9The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin, 10The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah, 11The ninth to Jeshua, the tenth to Shecaniah, 12The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim, 13The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab, 14The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer, 15The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses, 16The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel, 17The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul, 18The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah. 19These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the LORD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded him. THESE ELDERS WILL BE SERVING JESUS CHRIST DURING HIS 1000 YEAR REIGN IN ZION . EZEKIEL 44:15-16 , " 15.But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD: 16They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge. THE 24 ELDERS WILL ALSO BE AT THE FATHER'S KINGDOM IN NEW JERUSALEM ( REVELATIONS 4 & 5 ) . JOHN WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ; THE SEVEN SEALS ARE THE HISTORY OF THE SONS OF MEN BECOMING THE SONS OF GOD ; WITH THE FIRST SEAL BEING SATAN ON A WHITE HORSE , WITH A BOW AND CROWN , CONQUERING ADAM . ISAIAH 46:10 , " 10.Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: SHALOM !
This is the first video of yours that I have watched so I had my "test the spirits" sense turned way up. Very well done. Your conclusions are the same as mine. Thank You
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
@@gofish9392 I can say that Jesus was risen and seated as one of the Trinity.whilst the elders are in their class. . moreso the response cane that the redeemer is qualify to open the books. It's the prerogative of the almighty to make a place for the elders pre or post resurrection..... Scripture is not for a debate but let us allow the spirit reveal things to us when we read. SHALOM
@@tutuomisore974 Jesus has risen and is seated at the right hand of God, as scripture says. Mark 16:19. Scripture is for debate. It's imperative that we get scripture right, we should talk about it. In Rev Chapter 4, John was shown the pass before, Jesus was raised from the dead. Read chapter 4 very carefully. There is no mention of the Lord whatsoever! You need to ask yourself, why would God put in His book, " There is no one in Heaven, Earth or, under the Earth to open the seals," Why say, "there is no one in Heaven," If Jesus is in Heaven? This does not make any since. Those who believe in a pretib rapture use Rev 4-5 to show the 24 elders are the church in some way. How can the church precede Jesus into heaven? We can't!!! I agree with you concerning the 24 elders. Let keep the 24 elders in their class, place.... But no one can say they are the church.
Does the Scripture identify the 24 Elders? NO! What prevented the Apostle who received the revelation from putting in writing the names of the 24 elders? The focus is not on the 24 elders, but the entire seen in Heaven itself and in that, John doesn't mention Jesus at all. The thing I'm attempting to point out; there's a group of people who claim to be bible prophecy teachers, who build a false narrative around scripture in order to prove a pretrib rapture. Revelation chapter 4&5 are among some of them. I wrote a basic layout of what they teach: We know pretribers believe, the rapture comes first, then the 7-year tribulation begins, and everyone left behind will be subject to the 21 (seal, trumpet, and bowl) judgements of God before the second coming of Christ. "These are known as the tribulation saints." After the wrath of God is complete the tribulation saints are caught-up by the angels to heaven where the marriage supper of the Lamb is in progress. The 6th and 7th seals' show not only that there is no pretribulation rapture, but also distinguishes between the tribulation and wrath Of God.
In the books of Matthew, and Mark Jesus speaks of the "abomination of desolation," and also "great tribulation." Revelation 13 tell us, those who are alive at that time are subject to the mark of the beast, his image, and the number of his name. This is important because, doing the 6th seal in Rev 7:13-14 we're told these dressed in white robes come out of the great tribulation. Then the 7th seal is opened, and John sees 7 Angels with 7 trumpets, which is the wrath of God. So, now we can see the so-called Tribulation Saints in heaven before the wrath of God starts. "At least sometime after the halfway point." We have the same thing happening in Rev 15. We are told those standing on the sea of glass in heaven, (this sea of glass is empty in Rev 4) are the ones that overcame the beast, his mark, and the number of his name, placing them dead in the middle of the last part of the tribulation. What fallows this is the bowl judgments, which completes the wrath of God. (Rev 15:1-8). The large group in Rev 19 at the marriage supper of Lamb, we are told, it (MSL) has come, and not that it is already in progress. The Point is this. We see the so-called Tribulation Saints in heaven before Gods wrath begins. Also, this distinguishes the tribulation period from the wrath of God! Thlipsis/Orgi. Here is where Rev 3:10 applies. Lastly. There is no mention of any chapter or verse whatsoever in scripture showing a great multitude of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, being raptured before the tribulation begins, or after the wrath of God is complete. There is only one gathering, and that's doing the Day of the Lord!!! No pretrib rapture folks!!!
Your explanation of the 24 elders is right on track. I was searching for scripture to support that they were elders and you have really found them. I thank very much. It could never be explained any clearer. You got.
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
Brother, you have confirmed my own interpretation concerning the identity of these elders, and the significance of the number 24. Thank you for posting.
@@israelshells9726 1 Chron. has nothing to do with the scene in Revelation 4. In Chronicles the divisions are 16 and 8. Not so in Revelation. Amd what 'answer' are you implying? If you have a point to make, please make it. It's no use making some abstract sort of statement without explaining what you mean by it.
@@israelshells9726 3 wise men. The trinity. Jesus rose on the third day. 12 disciples. Jesus was 12 when he wandered off to the synagogue he was found 3 days later......
I agree This presentation was so sound & what I would believe about the 24 Elders. I will watch & listen again attentively. AWESOME! & I did subscribe.
Whaoo!! I just wondering how many years took you to receive this kind of revelation. That is the great revelation I ever come across thank you so much, our GOD he is a GOD of order and plan and that is how it looks very clear the way you manage to break chapter after chapter, thank you so much!!
Thanks for the well explained revelation...I have often found it difficult to understand certain aspects of this book, this is helping me a lot leading to more revelations
@@israelshells9726 GREAT, thanks a lot! NOT that I believe it is important/possible to know, unless you really are GOD ALMIGHTY in the flesh, which would mean you are JESUS CHRIST!
They are the ones from the earth who never defile themselves. Never sind . The are virgine who never defile themselve with woman. The ones who follow the lamb everywhere he go ministering everywhere he go. They are the chosen when from the earth that was given high authority that sit on the thorne with emortaltalty .
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
@@EddieFox Yes, Jesus is there when the first seal is opened. However, He isn't there in Rev chapter 4. Tell me if this make sense to you? You've been delegated to present an award to a member of your church. You're standing on the stage with a document in hand, then someone says, Eddie Fox isn't here. Would that make sense? No! If Jesus is in heaven before someone said, there is no one in heaven to open the seal or to look at it, Rev 5:1-3 does this make any sense, eh?
Thank you!! I've been so confused and this makes perfect sense! This has truly been a blessing to me. I feel the Father confirming I am not to go through tribulation as I have always been worried about. Maranatha!
The vision is all about symbolism .. and other than God Himself and Angels must not be taken literally. The Elders represent God's Children or the Church ... and are divided in 24 ... due to 1 Chronicles 24 with the priests of the Tabernacle. Pre-Trib Rapture is an anti-Christ teaching ... as is being punished in Hell forever. God created Hell to punish Fallen Angels forever. The Human body & soul will be destroyed in Hell ... and it likely will take 3 days ... which is how long Jesus was in Hell for being tortured by Demons being punished forever. But time is part of the physical world. There is no time in Heaven or Hell so Jesus suffered for much longer than 3 earth days in Hell. And this is why Jesus clearly warned people of the punishment of death ... through Hell. God must punish sinful Man with death ... of body & soul ... in Hell. The punishment is not forever, but you will be tortured by Demons for at least 3 days before your body & soul is destroyed and you cease to exist. And God had to make the punishment through Hell ... otherwise more people will sin ... knowing they the punishment will simply be ... nothingness. Every Angel was made by God ... and knew that if they sin ... they will be punished FOREVER in Hell. And one third of all the Angels willingly sinned knowing God will punish them forever in Hell. If the punishment has simply been ceasing to exist ... more Angels would have sinned. God created Adam & Eve to live forever but they will die (cease to exist) if they sin(break God's law). And they very quickly sinned ... knowing that they will cease to exist. But in doing so, they corrupted the body of Man ... which is his Mind when alive ... which is why every Human Being will sin ... and there must be punished by God with death ... but by this time God made it clear the punishment will go through Hell, so people will fear a Just God, stop sinning and accept Jesus as Lord & Savior. Again. Eternal punishment of Man in hell, Pretrib rapture, and once saved always saved is an antiChrist teachings. Time is only part of the physical world. There is no time in Hell & Heaven. When you die .. you go straight to Judgement Day in the future. Read Mathew 24
The believers who die before the Great Tribulation won't see it definitely. It will affect those believers who are still alive by that time. And they will be many (Rev 7:9-15) There are many scriptures in the Bible to prove that the Great Tribulation will start before the Rapture takes place. Mark 13:14-31. Matt 24:15-35. 2Thess 2:1-12 1Thess 4:13-18. Rev 7:9-17. All the above scriptures point to the truth of God's Word that the Great Tribulation will not happen after the Rapture. Rather, The Rapture will happen during the Great Tribulation. That's why we have been admonished to stand steadfast and to go back to our first love and to do the first works. Rev 2:4-7
@@FrankyDikey All of the prophesies are written from a living person's perspective ... on an Earth with time. There is no time in Heaven or Hell. God is Spirit ... and is timeless & eternal. God created Man ( in His likeness) to to live forever ( ie Timeless) but knew Man would fall and will have to be punished & saved. There was was not actual Earth time before the fall of Man. God created the Heavens & the Earth in six days ... including the solar system ... knowing that there will be minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years and seasons ... after the Fall of Man. God could have made everything in a split second ... but he chose 6 days with the 7th Day belonging to Him .... and 1 day is like a year or 1000 years to explain prophesies in the Bible. 6 x 1000 years Man rules the Earth 1 x 1000 years God rules the Earth. Judgement Day New Heaven & Earth with God living with His Children forever. When you die, ... your soul leaves the Universe that has time ... and goes straight to Judgement Day in the year 7 000 Anno Mundi ... to either join Jesus forever or perish in Hell. This is why Jesus said 2000 years ago to always be ready for His return .. because you do not know the day or hour ( you die). This is also why Jesus promised the SAVED dying thief next to Him, that he would be in Heaven with Jesus that day. We know Jesus goes to Hell for 3 days after he died .... that day. And when Jesus returned from Hell, He still hand His Earth body with the scares and piercings ... and said He had not yet received His glory body & been raised to Heaven. Again. For Jesus to be the sin sacrifice He had to be sent to Hell for as long as it takes ( on Earth) for the soul & body to be destroyed ... and .. when you die as Jesus did ... you either go to Heaven or Hell. The Rapture or "lifting up" is what the living on Earth .... experience. But the dead believers were RAPTURED to Judgment Day the moment their body died. This is also why when Jesus returns in the year 6 000 AM to rule the Earth for 1000 years with 144 000 Jews who were killed believing in the Christ during the tribulation ... the living believes ( and the dead from their perspective) are lifted up or raptured to Heaven to join Jesus forever. The Father & Son are not the Holy Spirit and can only take one form at a time. There is no time ... in Heaven or Hell. And the Rapture is after the Tribulation not during because the living believers witness the return of Jesus. Not all people are killed after tribulation. There a believing & non believing survivors. Jesus rules for 1000 years .. over the non-believing survivors who will continue to pro-create. It is a 7000 years salvation plan ... not 6000. There will be more saved Children of God from the 1000 years of Gods' rule than the 6000 under Man. But 1/3 of the Angels sinned & become Demons .. when they where each created by God and knew they will be punished forever in Hell if they sin. God only created Adam & Eve perfect. Adam & Eve procreated all people imperfect. So even with God ruling the Earth there will still be at least a third who will still reject God ... just as the Jew with God & Moses did in the desert. It's not during ... but after. And that is the first resurrection or ... rapture. The second is in the year 7000 when there will no longer be any believers procreated by Man .. and therefore God must finally Judge Mankind. Remember God gave Man the ability to make Man via procreation ... and free will. God must punish all who sin with death in Hell ... but will save those who accept God's Salvation(Jesus). God gave Man free will and the ability to procreate Man ... which is why God must wait ... until the last Child of God is created by Man. At the year 7 000 AM .. no human being will ever accept Jesus as Lord & Savior ... and so God can finally punish mankind.
I've always believed the 24 were the 12 tribe leaders OT and the 12 Apostles NT but now I know why! Rev 21 and Matthew 19. Thank you so much for filling in this gap for me. A very informative video. I know what a "futurist" believes and can confirm I am one. Great stuff.
Also, 24 is the number of the priestly division in I Chronicles 23-24. The Greek presbyteros means elder and "elder" is the original form of the word "priest" whose duty is to serve before the Lord. Thus, it is possible that what John saw was the vision of 24 priests serving the Lord thru worship. John used Old Testament figures to enrich his symbols in his Book.
I agree with your interpretation, the 24 reflects the divisions of priest not a reference to 12 + 12. Thus suggestion is nothing new, and flawed. Thanks for your comment and doing a deeper five into scripture. Blessings
The biggest problem with your interpretation is the fact that Paul mentions 2 groups of people who will be raptured. The "dead in Christ along with those alive who believe in Jesus. It is hard for me to believe those dead in Christ omits all the OT saints who looked forward to Jesus atonement.
Thank you God for giving me strength. As a single mother things are hard on me. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m constantly struggling to provide for them and now that I’m home schooling them my hours to work are limited. I’m overwhelmed. Father God give me strength as I struggle to buy groceries and as I struggle to pay rent help me through this hard time.
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
Thank you for your exposition. I think your theory that the 24 elders could be a futuristic representation of both the new and old testament eldership of the church and the nation of Israel respectively is correct. There are many references in the Bible to support this theory.
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
In defense of prophet Kat - I believe you guys misquoted her. If I'm not mistaken she didn't call the 24 elders angels in the video clips you showed. Rather she called them ancient created beings. That does not automatically make them angels. God has enough creativity, ability and time on his hands to create other heavenly beings which are neither angels or believing saints ( people who had been redeemed ) Just thought on the counter. Thanks for the great work you do and for all all the time and energy you put into doing this. I pray God encourages you, strengthens you & increases your understanding of his Word and that He opens your eyes of enlightenment even further in Jesus name
I actually had two dreams/visions of the 24 Edlers seated in a circle, where one said, Welcome into the Inner Circle before in one, and where we were assembling (seated) at a table in the other.
Erm pretty sure that you didn’t. If we don’t go by scripture as to what the heavens are like, then we are not to entertain those things. Sounds like a rather vivid dream, nothing more. I’ll stick to what the living word of God says!
Sounds more theosophical then biblical. The theosophists love their 'inner circle' mentality. Remember that Satan can appear as an angel of light. And Jesus came in the form of a servant saying we need become like children to enter the kingdom. It is kind of the opposite spirit to say, 'welcome to the inner circle'. Did they wink too?
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I am so happy to hear exactly what I always understood from the book of Revelations. The Scriptures are very specific in their words: elders are elders, angels are angels, beasts are beasts...Elders are not angels nor beasts and vice-versa. How some people say otherwise??? We must be very careful not to misinterprete the Word of God!! To our true unique God is the glory, Amen!!!
Also chapter 7 Revelation the great multitude comes out of great tribulation which is the second half. John is told by one of the elders before the first she was opened who they are so they are in heaven already before the first she was open
Stop being a potato or donkey of the god Lah. There are only God, Angels/Demons ... and Man. The vision is full of symbolism. The Elders are the God's Children or the church. There are 24 because to the division of Priests for the Tabernacle 1 Chronicles 24. God created Man ... because he wanted to have Children ... and to live and rule with them forever. And pretrib rapture, once saved always saved and Man being punished forever in Hell ... are Anti-Christ teachings. God created Hell to only punish fallen Angels forever because they were created to be servants & helpers ... of God's Children. God deliberately made His Children with puny body & soul because He knew that they would sin .. and he would have to punish them the body & soul with death. The human body & soul will die in Hell but it is not immediate. This is why God sent His only begotten Son with a perfect body & soul .... to take the punishment of any believer ( God's children). Jesus spend three days in Hell ... which in our time is how long Hell destroys soul. Jesus had to spend 3 day is Hell because God punishes for Man sinning is death of the body & the soul. Only Hell can destroy the soul .. so this is why God punishes Man through Hell. Read Mather 24 ... and beware of false teachings and being lead astray.
No "s" in Revelation brother. Its the "Revelation of Jesus Christ". We add that "s" in because people have heard it said on TV and movies and so many say it now. I had to break myself of the habit too.
Yes elders are saints, angels are angels but there are no beasts, the creatures are a type of angels, thrones catagory because they reside near the throne, a person better hope they don't see one in that form while they live. People usually don't because the creatures look like cherub but are not that class
You are right about this submission. The 24 Elders are 12 Tribes of Israel and 12 Apostles. God bless you brother. Apostle Prophet Johncrownfit Kayode Anifowose
You asked what do I think? Totally agree that's what I think.!!! Thank-you so much for this explanation.It's 40 years on saved for me and I'm just understanding who they are. Great.
I guessed as you proved the 12 tribes or the 12 apostles but combining them gave the 24 and I love how it joins the pre Jesus with the post Jesus or old and New Testaments
Thank you for your explanation . You have given me a better insight to the case of the 24 elders . I used to think the elders were those great men of God( forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob ) including prophets in the old testament times( like Moses, Isaiah and So on ...) And kings like David and the apostles including Paul. I try to fill the no 24 with prominent people of the old and the new testament . But your explanation is perfect . Thank you brother .
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
@@gofish9392 REVELATION 5:3 , " 3.And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. NO MAN IN HEAVEN ( NEW JERUSALEM , THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ) , NOR IN EARTH ( THE NATIONS THAT ARE SAVED ; WHICH HAST THEIR INHERITAGE IN THE EARTH , THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM IN GENESIS 10 ) , NEITHER UNDER THE EARTH ( THE ONES IN THE LAKE OF FIRE ) , WAS ABLE TO OPEN THE BOOK , NEITHER TO LOOK THEREON . JOHN WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER'S KINGDOM , ON THE NEW EARTH , IN NEW JERUSALEM ; AFTER THE CREATION HAST BEEN COMPLETED . THE END FROM THE BEGINNING ; LIKE A STORY BEING TOLD OF ONE'S LIFE , STARTING AT THE END , THEN REFLECTING BACK TO THE BEGINNING ; UNTIL THE STORY IS COMPLETED . ISAIAH 46:10 , " 10.Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: SHALOM !
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
Before you gave your final summation, I knew in my Spirit it was 12 from the old and 12 from the New...I concur with you in the scriptural examples given that it is the 12 Tribes and 12 Apostles. Also, when anyone speaks so flippantly about 100's of visits to heaven it is a BIG red flag 🚩 to me...thanks for your hard work in seeking scriptural evidence to back what the Lord is showing you...
This was quite an insightful video. However a little clarification I would love to get would be on this: On the idea that a section of the 24 elders were New Testament representatives in the persons of the 12 apostles, I am curious to understand how John (one of the 12 apostles) seeing the revelation appeared to have counted 24 elders excluding himself. Also noting that at the point of the revelation John was still technically alive alongside a few other apostles perhaps. OR Could it be that the revelation of the 24 elders was a vision of the future and that in some sense John (the apostle who saw the revelation) was actually a part of the 24 elders in terms of his future self?
I made a few clarifying remarks about this video in my recent live-stream. If you have questions, you may find that I have answered them here...
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I love the content! But John being one of the original apostles hasn't died yet so shouldn't there be 23? Thank you sir
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1 CORINTHIANS 15:20-23 , " 20.But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
WHEN IS HIS COMING ?
JOHN 6:39-40 , " 39.And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER ; THE ONLY ONE WHO HAST IMMORTALITY THAT HAST LIVED IN A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY .
THE 24 ELDERS WILL BE PART OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION , AT CHRIST RETURN TO REIGN ON THIS EARTH FOR 1000 YEARS ; THEY ARE THE SAINTS ; THE 144,000 ISRAELITES ; THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT .
2 TIMOTHY 4:6-8 , " 6.For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
THIS IS WHEN PAUL AND THE OTHER ISRAELITES WILL RECEIVE THEIR CROWNS .
ROMANS 8:22-23 , " 22.For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
THE WHOLE CREATION WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM ALL NATIONS IN THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ( REVELATION 7:9-17 ) .
AND NOT ONLY THEY , BUT OURSELVES ALSO , WOULD BE THE ISRAELITES , THE ONLY NATION UNDER THE COVENANT WITH THE FATHER , THE FIRST ADOPTION ; THE ONES HE DID FOREKNOW ; THE ONES HE PREDESTINATE ( REVELATION 7:1-8 ) .
ROMANS 8:28-30 , " 28.And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
JESUS RETURNS AT THE OPENING OF THE SIXTH SEAL ; GATHER THE SAINTS / ELECTS / 144,000 ISRAELITES , AS HE DESCENDS FROM THE THIRD HEAVEN , AS THEY ASCENDS FROM THE FIRST HEAVEN TO MET THE LORD IN THE SECOND HEAVEN ; THEN FIGHT THE WICKED ; TO DESCEND AT THE MOUNT OF OLIVES ; TO SETUP HIS KINGDOM IN ZION , JERUSALEM .
1 THESSALONIANS 4:16-17 , " 16.For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
REVELATION 14 , " 1-5 , " 1.And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God .
THE 24 ELDERS ARE THE SONS OF THE HOUSE OF AARON .
1 CORONICLES 24:1-19 , " 1.Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.
2But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office.
3And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service.
4And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar; and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers.
5Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar.
6And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar.
7.Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah,
8The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim,
9The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin,
10The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah,
11The ninth to Jeshua, the tenth to Shecaniah,
12The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim,
13The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab,
14The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer,
15The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses,
16The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel,
17The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul,
18The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah.
19These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the LORD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded him.
THESE ELDERS WILL BE SERVING JESUS CHRIST DURING HIS 1000 YEAR REIGN IN ZION .
EZEKIEL 44:15-16 , " 15.But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:
16They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.
THE 24 ELDERS WILL ALSO BE AT THE FATHER'S KINGDOM IN NEW JERUSALEM ( REVELATIONS 4 & 5 ) .
JOHN WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ; THE SEVEN SEALS ARE THE HISTORY OF THE SONS OF MEN BECOMING THE SONS OF GOD ; WITH THE FIRST SEAL BEING SATAN ON A WHITE HORSE , WITH A BOW AND CROWN , CONQUERING ADAM .
ISAIAH 46:10 , " 10.Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
SHALOM !
Do you not believe then that the OT Saints get resurrected at the end of the tribulation? Like in Daniel 12:1 and in Revelation 20:4-5 ? This would mean the 24 cannot be including the 12 tribes of Israel, because they have not been resurrected yet. I'm also wondering how in the Rev. 5:5 one of the elders can be speaking to John, if he's a raptured saint from the future, then how can he be more than just a picture and is actually speaking to John in the present? Would love to know your views on this.
@@raveanjohnson6748. Was John watching himself?
IMHO, 12 were chosen because there are are 12 kine like our birth stones, NOT that the Lord is limited to 12, but to represent the Bride being like 12 precious stones, the same can be said for the elders, uniquely tied to the 4 beasts are likely a parable for being THIER "6 wings" likely capable to be plucked themselves as a "lion was plucked of it's wings & made to walk as a man" per Daniel (from 1st position to 3rd), OUR LORD, now come down like a doorway HIMSELF between heaven & earth to take "candlesticks" &/or to "crown" as a WAY MAKER.
The word of GOD is just satisfying..The deeper you go,the more powerful you feel and become...Give us the grace to see heaven
He already has given us the grace to see heaven.
Amen!
Amen.
Amen
Quran 112
God never sends you into a situation alone, God goes before you, He stands beside you, He walks behind you. Whatever situation you have right now be confident. God is with you. AMEN 🙏🙏
So right. If I may add something, I'd say God envelopes us.
Amen.
Immanuel GOD is with us.
Amen
Hi! I like this video and the effort put in the research. I would say the origin of the 24 elders is still open. Melchizedek was created by God since it did not have mother or father and he was a priest just like we are priests and kings with God likewise he could have created the 24 elders too. We will definitely find out when we get to Heaven 🙂
About the rapture, I agree with you. I believe there is enough evidence in the Bible to indicate it will occur before the tribulation. Many blessings!
The dear person that's reading this, we don't know each other but I wish you all the best in life❤ don't ever blame yourself, accept things and go forward. Your smile is precious and a key to a happy life…
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Hope the lyrics of this hymn encourage and uplift you. And let's be mindful that Jesus says, "IN THIS WORLD YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLES, BUT TAKE HEART! I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD" - John 16:33
Notice He did not say..."overcome the troubles" you see 🤔
May the PEACE of GOD be with you 😇 Be BLESSED👼
God Bless you as well!
Amen
Thank you so much! May God Bless You and Yours .. ✝️🙏
So good!! I was literally reading Revelation 5 this morning and paused to reflect on who the 24 elders are....then I see this!! WOW, so good!!
I'm re-reading the book of Revelation since few days ago
They're the 144,000 bought from earth
This is not right. The 24 elders are ancient beings of the first creation that didn’t follow the counsel of the devil to sin against God and were mattered. To understand this mystery you need to first remember that there was a creation before man which Lucifer was in charge of before his rebellion and fall. This 24 defended the faith and were honored by God with gold crowns and thrones to rule at the appointed time. The darkness that covered the earth in Genesis was as a result of God destroying the earth and its inhabitants like he did in the time of Noah. The 24 elders are those who kept themselves holy onto the Lord and thus were not destroyed with the first creation..
@@omoruyiodosa5495, can you send scripture to prove this? Please? I'm very interested in learning/Knowing.
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Hey and Praise God through His Son Jesus Christ.
Your explanation seems very likely to come from the Apocalypha books that were taken from the the Bible.
I have been listening and watching "Life is Spiritual" whereby the preacher once spoke of that other world before Lucifer disobeyed The Father.
These explains a lot about the presence of dinosaur and giant people fossils... How did they happen?
These questions make me, partly, believe your opinion. 😊
I love you Jesus. Thank you for saving my life and my families life. I will worship you until I die and then forever with you in Heaven. Amen
So beautiful. ❤
I can't imagine it's just 2days ago; We've a program with my kids where we're reading the entire bible and they're able to read the entire bible off-head. Right now we're in the Revelation. Now my son who is 9yrs old asked me, "Dad and who are these 24elders before the throne" I confidently looked at him and told him, my son let me finish what I'm doing then answer you. By the time I was finishing, he had slept. I was Very lucky. I couldn't believe to see the pop-up notification about what what the solid question in my mind. God bless you for this most important info of the hour
Wow Jehovah Jairah is always with us to answer all the questions.
This is unbelievable..... Your kids are blessed
Was you lucky,do you know who you are saying you are ,but keep teaching your son and find the truth of the ALL MIGHTY,AND follow Him not and man made churches religion
The 24 elders at the throne of God are the 12 sons of Israel (Jacob) and the 12 Disciples of Jesus. I have answered you Dear.
@@kingangiterry7457 you are wrong, katty cur (not sure if I wrote her name correctly) is 100% right and I know this for a truth not fact
I humbly agreed to the explanations of the 24 elders, the 12 Tribes + the 12 Apostles. Receive all Glory Lord. O Lord, I worship you. Thank you Jesus
If the elders were the 12 tribes and the 12 apostles, why wasn't John on one of the thrones? He was of the twelve. I'm just thinking.
Yeah…
So it means that he’ve seen himself ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Noo i don’t
You're all wrong man.
@@lionelaugustin1791 ok. That may be true, can you explain briefly how I'm wrong? I'm open to listen.
@LaVictor Sermons .This mystery is great, You need to really have an open mind to understand God's mysteries. The 24 Elders can't be the 12 tribes and the 12 Apostles.John was still alive. The 24 wear crowns,seated on thrones and white robe which means they are kings( not kings of Israel but kings as rank) and the white robe means they are holy. They are not humans.They are Elohims.
This is the best and perfect explanation of the 24 Elders.
May God continue to increase your wisdom and open you to more insightful revelations.
SPOT ON!!! I agree with your presentation 100%. Glory be to God the Father, and to our Lord Jesus Christ.
Wow! This is very enlightening, especially as you backed it up with the word of God as evidence. O Lord, please continue to reveal Yourself to us.. help us to know you deeper and correct any wrong perception or misunderstanding we have about You in Jesus name. Amen
Blessed that prayer,father..❤
This has been extremely enlightening for me. Its the best explanation of the twenty-four elders I've heard alongside supporting Bible scripture. I'm always grateful for receiving God's wisdom which I believe comes by the leading of the Holy Spirit. Our God lives and He reigns. He knows and declares the end from the beginning. Hallelujah. Amen. 🙏🏾🤍🕊
Receiving the Crown Of Life should be everyone's goal ❤️✝️
Excellent video with truest meaning of 24 elders. Praise God 24 elders are symbolic beings of 12 old testament prophets and 12 new testament apostles which further represent the Old Testament Church of believers and New Testament Church of believers. Hallelujah Amen. So, all 24 elders represent the saints of God from the creation of the world till the end of the world. Hallelujah Amen. May God richly bless you and your ministry, my dear Brother in Christ. I am Arnold from Ahmedabad, India.
Yes, the Rapture is before The Great Tribulation! Jesus is coming to get His Bride ( The Church) out! Hallelujah 🙌 Prairie Jesus 💜
AMEN THAT WAS EXCELLENT EXPLANATION AND WAS EVEN COMPARED TO GOD'S HOLY BOOK THE BIBLE . I FELT IT THAT YOU WERE INSPIRED . OUR GOD IS REALY USING HIS PEOPLE IN THE EARTH THESE LAST DAYS , YOU WERE NOT ON A HURRY TO GET OVER WITH IT ,YOU SPOKE SLOWLY AND CLEARLY . IT WAS ENJOYABLE TO LISTEN TO , AND TO SEE THE PICTURE'S THAT EXPLAINS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER . I THINK THAT YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE BUTTON WITH THE TWELVE TRIBES AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES .WE WANT TO HEAR MORE BECAUSE IT IS VERY UPLIFTING AND KEEP US THINKING ABOUT OUR BEAUTIFUL HOME WHERE ARE PREPARING TO GO ONE DAY VERY SOON . BLESS YOUR DEAR HEART MY DEAR BRO AND MAY YOU KEEP ON WINNING SOULS FOR HIS KINGDOM . Amen 🎉 .
This is so lovely. God has shown us light. Thank you for this revelation. God bless you according to his riches in glory
I've been saying this all my life thank you for confirming it. Awesome content! It's always important to study scripture!
Really? I have often pondered who they are!
@Dean3Z8 hey sometimes these questions only God in His wisdom can answer for He knows why He put them there
i dont dispute that@Dean3Z8
I just love the way God talks to us also! My mom and I was just talking a couple of hours ago about the prophecy about before Yashua return if the Word would be preached to the whole world, which I think is has been, or to every nation, tribe and tounge, which I believe it has not yet been done. I told mom I would have to check and see then I watched your video and you showed what the Word says. God is so so so so so so so GOOD! SHALOM
I actually itched to hear you reference the mention of that last theory. The 24 Elders that worship before GOD endlessly have always been perceived as the elders representing the 12 Tribes of Israel, and the 12 Disciples. And those 2 Scriptures- from Mathew 19 and Revelations 21 quite lend credence to that line of thinking.
That explanation of the theory comes quite naturally. May the Holy Ghost continue to illuminate our hearts on these profound mysteries
Now that Judas Iscariot doesn’t fit in as a betrayal, we are so quick to add him to the supposed highest hierarchy to the Throne of God? Wow
@@JerryGnex Can you help me understand this better please?
@@JerryGnex the apostles voted for his replacement in book of Acts of Apostles
Judas Iscariot was replaced@@JerryGnex
How, when the 12 tribes and 12 deciples arent out of every kindred, tongue, people, and nation.
Thanks my brother, I really love and agree with your thoughts on this topic. May Heaven grant you more grace in Jesus name.
Excellent!! Well done !!! The 24 Elders are EXACTLY who the Scriptures say they are in Revelation 5:9. I subscribed to your excellent channel. We must ALWAYS interpret scripture from scripture & get 2 or 3 witnesses from scripture- WHICH you DID ! Bravo ! And as for Kat- I smoked her bad knowledge of the scriptures out long ago. She’s a precious woman with a peculiar imagination. I don’t doubt she loves the Lord. She’s just NOT scriptural. We are to test the spirits.
Have you tested the new revelations of the Book of True Life as promised in Revelation 20:12 anyone? ♥️
She's a lying spirit
I tend to disagree on the context of who the 24 elders are in this video...the 24 elders are simply beings created by God to honour his great name as the king of kings, it's why the heaven is defined by several entities, for example; The mountain of assembly, The holy mountain, Zion , The New Jerusalem, The Invisible palace....they represent God as the king, number 24 represent the periodic times i.e 12 hours of daytime and 12 hours of dusk, read your scriptures right and find out why they worship him day and night
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JOHN WAS IN THE SPIRIT , LIKE IN REVELATION 1 ( I WAS IN THE SPIRIT ON THE LORD'S DAY )
HOW MANY LORD'S ARE THERE ( THE FATHER & CHRIST = PSALM 110:1 )
WHEN IS THE LORD'S DAY ?
FOR JESUS , THE SEVENTH DAY , AT HIS KINGDOM .
FOR THE FATHER , THE EIGHTH DAY , AT HIS KINGDOM .
Are the 24 elders angels/heavenly beings or redeemed men to the God of Israel ?
Revelation 4:4,10 , " 4.And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
10.The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
2 Timothy 4:6-8 , " 6.For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7.I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8.Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
James 1:12 , " 12.Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Revelation 2:10 , " 10.Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
1 Peter 5:4 , " 4.And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory.
Revelation 3:11 , " 11.Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
CROWNS ARE SYMBOLS WHICH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE OBTAIN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD ; ANGELS WHICH DID NOT FALL WITH SATAN HAST ALWAYS HAD THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD ; NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DO I SEE ANGELS WITH CROWNS .
1 Chronicles 24:1-18 , " 1.Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.
2But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office.
3And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service.
4And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar; and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers.
5Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar.
6And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar.
7Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah,
8The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim,
9The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin,
10The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah,
11The ninth to Jeshua, the tenth to Shecaniah,
12The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim,
13The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab,
14The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer,
15The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses,
16The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel,
17The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul,
18The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah.
The church is the covenant between the Father and the only nation that he hast made a covenant with , the children of Israel .
They are the anointed ones .
Psalm 105:10-15 , " 10.And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
11.Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:
12.When they were but a few men in number; yea, very few, and strangers in it.
13.When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people;
14.He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;
15.Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Believing Gentiles are not under the covenant of the Father , but grafted into the covenant under the blood of Christ .
Numbers 3:11-12 " 11.And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
12.And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel instead of all the firstborn that openeth the matrix among the children of Israel: therefore the Levites shall be mine;
The Levites are to conduct the services of the God of Israel ; in the covenant through Moses ; in the covenant in Jesus Christ kingdom ; in the covenant in the father's kingdom .
THE 24 ELDERS IN REVELATION ARE THE DIVISIONS OF THE SONS OF AARON , THE SONS OF AARON ; ELEAZAR , AND ITHAMAR .
The apostle John in his heavenly body at the Father's kingdom in New Jerusalem on the new earth in Revelation 4 & 5 . The ending from the beginning ; like a writer at the end of his life , reflecting back on his life from the past .
IN REVELATION 5 , THE ONE ON THE THRONE IS THE FATHER ; THE LAMB IS JESUS CHRIST .
There is no rapture or seven year tribulation ; the great tribulation in Matthew 24;21 , is the tribulation of the nation of Israel from 70 A.D. , to Christ return on the opening of the sixth seal in Revelation 6 ; to gather the saints in Revelation 7:1-8 : The 144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel ; to reign with him for 1000 years . The opening of the 7th seal happens in Revelations 8-10 after the 1000 reign of Christ ; with the seventh trumpet in revelation 10 , and seventh vial judgment in Revelation 16 ; which is the final judgment of the earth before the great white throne judgment .
The ones coming out of great tribulation in Revelation 7:14 , are all men/women from all nations in the Father's kingdom ; from the time that we went into great tribulation at the fall of Adam in the garden of Eden , to the completion of the creation .
Shalom !
@@evanmwangi9675did you watch the video. His logic is sound. His use of Scripture backs up every point. You seem to be shooting from the hip with your interpretation. God tells us clearly, if we study and parse it out, using Scripture to interpret Scripture. We are not left to our own hunches and intuitions. As Peter relates, no prophecy is of private interpretation. We don't just get to make it up. The mystics do that and always end up in a ditch.
Thanks dear brother for explaining through the word of God about 24 elders thank you so much
Praise the Lord
Thank you jesus, have mercy upon me and my family, and give us the grace to make heaven Amen
Hi, GOD has already given you the GRACE to make heaven and he did it before you were born. In fact GOD did this roughly 2000 years ago. You don't make heaven; it's not something you earn. You receive "grace" and "eternal life" from Jesus Christ. It is a free gift from GOD that one accepts and trust in.
@@crashcanyon2068 Amen
Thats selfishness, only you and your family? ask God to change the world from the evil that mankind created.
@@marklorde One must take care of oneself and ones family first before you move to take care of the world. In fact GOD says to love not the world neither the things in the world. The world has already been judged and has been found wanting and will be destroyed.
Amen
God Bless you. I have been reading the Bible & doing research concerning Revelation. In my own church there is different believes regarding the rapture of the church.
Thank you for your insights and wisdom. I belief the Word of God proves itself. Glad you used verses to back up your thoughts. God meant for the Bible to be understood by all those who seek him. But we all need to do our part by praying & studying it.
Thank you for sharing.
Rapture is a protestant lie i
The explanation on the twenty four elders is good.
But the explanation of the futuristic views defy sound biblical doctrine. I believe it is not a good explanation. Let me just pin point one from your explanation. In the book of Daniel there is no seven years of great tribulation. I don't know where that is coming from.
The word of God is absolute.
Having followed your exposition, the scriptural evidence seals everything.
A pre- tribulation rapture believer for the bible says so.
This was very well done!! I am glad I found your channel ☺️ I checked out several of your videos, and they seem very sound, and yes, this is what I always believed about the 24 elders . But I never thought about how this connected with the pre rapture !! And the scripture verses about the foundations and gates of the new city !! Wow, this is so good!! And that you ended with the gospel!!! I will be watching your videos , subscribed, and sharing !! Thank you for doing these!!
God bless you for this content. I appreciate the fact that you use the Bible to explain your facts. God bless you and increase your wisdom and understanding.
This was awesome. Please do more of these teachings. Blessings
Dear brother explanation is balance and does not defy scriptural and logical reasoning. You did a good search . Thank u sir.
Praise and blessings be to our creator now and forevermore HALLELUYAH!
This is a perfect example of scripture interpreting scripture. Good exegesis and good evangelism.
I’ve always thought the 24 elders were the 12 sons of Jacob and the 12 Apostles. Your explanation on this subject is outstanding.
The 12 Patriarchs and the 12 apostles are all Jewish, not from all nations tribes and tongues...
Glory to God,I love you Jesus🙏🙏
God bless your ministry. This is the most clear theory I've heard about the 24 elders, thank you for your thoughts.
Thanks alot for watching this very important and inspired explanation, very helpful My friend GOD bless you
THE BIBLE INTERPRET ITSELF...BEAUTIFUL TEACHING....MMY WIFE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS A DAY AGO AND I TOLD HER THE SAME 12 AND 12...THIS TEACHING IS A BLESSINGS..BLESSINGS 🙏✝️💯♥️🤍🖤
Lucky u married a believer
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There are answers that we will only have when we get there. The kingdom of God is full of mysteries…who can search the heart of God! I am eager to meet the 24 elders!!!
WONDERFUL!! Thank you for helping me to understand this better! Makes perfect sense that the 12 sons of Jacob and 12 Apostles represent the totality of all Believers! What a wondrous day it will be to rule and reign with Christ Jesus! 🙏✝️
Judas Iscariot was later redeemed? Wow
@@JerryGnex if read in the book of acts, they apostles replaced Judas...
@@JerryGnexprobably bc he helped to fulfill scriptures and we know he comes to the realization of what he did before he takes his life.. He was in regret and I’m sure he asked for full repentance
@@iriter5948who was he replaced by?
@@teahgurl Mathias by the other apostles but I believe God chosen was Saul ! And Jesus said it was better if Judas wasn’t born so I don’t think he’s one of the twelve
Best explanation I've ever heard. Thank you so much. I appreciate this post.
🙏❤️🔥 and the background music is beautiful
Great video... your ministry is much appreciated and NEEDED! 🙌👏👍🌟🙏
This is so profound. I have always followed the prophecy in the book of revelation and this is one area that I always struggled to understand. May the Good Lord continue to bless you 🙏
Chapters 1-20 of Revelation alreády has been fulfilled at the cross of Jesus. IT IS FINISHED! Keep in mind the Bible was mainly written for the people of Israel. Its only at the cross when the gentiles were brought into oneness with Christ.
The biggest revelation of all times was given to Paul.. Christ within!
Col 1:26,27 'the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in (ín!) you, the hope of glory.
Thank you brother for taking your time to explain us about 24 elders. I hope you are correct but I believe that the time is coming soon to see them . I just can’t wait that moment. Mean time we prepare ourselves like that beautiful bride for our Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah Amen ❤
Ameen and ameen 🙏🙏
Thank you 🙏❤️😊👍
Amen!
We shall see them all as they really are.
Really unbelievable
If twenty 24 elders are 12 apostles and and twelve sons of Israel,then how john the apostle could able talk to them,because he also counted in that 24 elders its mean there must be 23 not 24.
How john can see himself in that 24 elders,how john the apostle can be two.person.he is the one who withnesing how he can be with 24 elders at same time.
Thank you for the exposition and insight. I I am blessed by it. Remain blessed.
Excellent teaching made simple! God Bless You!
This was explained so well..Thank you so much!!..I have hope in Christ Jesus! Amen
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I believe you are spot on about the 24 Elders being 12 tribes & 12 disciples
cannot be 12 disciples cause as u should know one of those 12 deceived which was judas, which will be 11.
Can't be the disciples, because John was still alive when he saw 24 elders, also..minus Judas, the disciples wouldn't be 12
I thank God for you by brother, for clearing this up for me Glory to God !!!!!!!!!
Absolutely beautiful. What a wonderful God we serve. I can’t wait until i’m in heaven
..probably the best thought out presentation over this topic that I have heard so far,...but I have only been around for 70 years.
There are so many interesting topics in scripture,...and very likely be made clear to us soon.
I learned a lot about the 24 elders and saints am glad I found these channel. God bless you with more wisdom and knowledge 🙏🙏🙏
Well you have not learned truth. The 24 elders are the sons of Aaron. 1 chron.24. Read the whole chapter.
@@israelshells9726 God told me not to fight over his word so let us have peace everyone has their own experience
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1 CORINTHIANS 15:20-23 , " 20.But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
WHEN IS HIS COMING ?
JOHN 6:39-40 , " 39.And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER ; THE ONLY ONE WHO HAST IMMORTALITY THAT HAST LIVED IN A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY .
THE 24 ELDERS WILL BE PART OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION , AT CHRIST RETURN TO REIGN ON THIS EARTH FOR 1000 YEARS ; THEY ARE PART OF THE SAINTS ; THE 144,000 ISRAELITES ; THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT .
2 TIMOTHY 4:6-8 , " 6.For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
THIS IS WHEN PAUL AND THE OTHER ISRAELITES WILL RECEIVE THEIR CROWNS .
ROMANS 8:22-23 , " 22.For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
THE WHOLE CREATION WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM ALL NATIONS IN THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ( REVELATION 7:9-17 ) .
AND NOT ONLY THEY , BUT OURSELVES ALSO , WOULD BE THE ISRAELITES , THE ONLY NATION UNDER THE COVENANT WITH THE FATHER , THE FIRST ADOPTION ; THE ONES HE DID FOREKNOW ; THE ONES HE PREDESTINATE ( REVELATION 7:1-8 ) .
ROMANS 8:28-30 , " 28.And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
JESUS RETURNS AT THE OPENING OF THE SIXTH SEAL ; GATHER THE SAINTS / ELECTS / 144,000 ISRAELITES , AS HE DESCENDS FROM THE THIRD HEAVEN , AS THEY ASCENDS FROM THE FIRST HEAVEN TO MET THE LORD IN THE SECOND HEAVEN ; THEN FIGHT THE WICKED ; TO DESCEND AT THE MOUNT OF OLIVES ; TO SETUP HIS KINGDOM IN ZION , JERUSALEM .
1 THESSALONIANS 4:16-17 , " 16.For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
REVELATION 14 , " 1-5 , " 1.And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God .
THE 24 ELDERS ARE THE SONS OF THE HOUSE OF AARON .
1 CORONICLES 24:1-19 , " 1.Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.
2But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office.
3And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service.
4And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar; and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers.
5Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar.
6And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar.
7.Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah,
8The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim,
9The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin,
10The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah,
11The ninth to Jeshua, the tenth to Shecaniah,
12The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim,
13The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab,
14The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer,
15The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses,
16The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel,
17The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul,
18The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah.
19These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the LORD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded him.
THESE ELDERS WILL BE SERVING JESUS CHRIST DURING HIS 1000 YEAR REIGN IN ZION .
EZEKIEL 44:15-16 , " 15.But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:
16They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.
THE 24 ELDERS WILL ALSO BE AT THE FATHER'S KINGDOM IN NEW JERUSALEM ( REVELATIONS 4 & 5 ) .
JOHN WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ; THE SEVEN SEALS ARE THE HISTORY OF THE SONS OF MEN BECOMING THE SONS OF GOD ; WITH THE FIRST SEAL BEING SATAN ON A WHITE HORSE , WITH A BOW AND CROWN , CONQUERING ADAM .
ISAIAH 46:10 , " 10.Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
SHALOM !
This is the first video of yours that I have watched so I had my "test the spirits" sense turned way up. Very well done. Your conclusions are the same as mine. Thank You
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
@@gofish9392 I can say that Jesus was risen and seated as one of the Trinity.whilst the elders are in their class.
. moreso the response cane that the redeemer is qualify to open the books.
It's the prerogative of the almighty to make a place for the elders pre or post resurrection.....
Scripture is not for a debate but let us allow the spirit reveal things to us when we read.
SHALOM
@@tutuomisore974 Jesus has risen and is seated at the right hand of God, as scripture says. Mark 16:19. Scripture is for debate. It's imperative that we get scripture right, we should talk about it. In Rev Chapter 4, John was shown the pass before, Jesus was raised from the dead. Read chapter 4 very carefully. There is no mention of the Lord whatsoever! You need to ask yourself, why would God put in His book, " There is no one in Heaven, Earth or, under the Earth to open the seals," Why say, "there is no one in Heaven," If Jesus is in Heaven? This does not make any since. Those who believe in a pretib rapture use Rev 4-5 to show the 24 elders are the church in some way. How can the church precede Jesus into heaven? We can't!!! I agree with you concerning the 24 elders. Let keep the 24 elders in their class, place.... But no one can say they are the church.
Does the Scripture identify the 24 Elders? NO! What prevented the Apostle who received the revelation from putting in writing the names of the 24 elders? The focus is not on the 24 elders, but the entire seen in Heaven itself and in that, John doesn't mention Jesus at all.
The thing I'm attempting to point out; there's a group of people who claim to be bible prophecy teachers, who build a false narrative around scripture in order to prove a pretrib rapture. Revelation chapter 4&5 are among some of them.
I wrote a basic layout of what they teach: We know pretribers believe, the rapture comes first, then the 7-year tribulation begins, and everyone left behind will be subject to the 21 (seal, trumpet, and bowl) judgements of God before the second coming of Christ. "These are known as the tribulation saints." After the wrath of God is complete the tribulation saints are caught-up by the angels to heaven where the marriage supper of the Lamb is in progress. The 6th and 7th seals' show not only that there is no pretribulation rapture, but also distinguishes between the tribulation and wrath Of God.
In the books of Matthew, and Mark Jesus speaks of the "abomination of desolation," and also "great tribulation." Revelation 13 tell us, those who are alive at that time are subject to the mark of the beast, his image, and the number of his name. This is important because, doing the 6th seal in Rev 7:13-14 we're told these dressed in white robes come out of the great tribulation. Then the 7th seal is opened, and John sees 7 Angels with 7 trumpets, which is the wrath of God. So, now we can see the so-called Tribulation Saints in heaven before the wrath of God starts. "At least sometime after the halfway point."
We have the same thing happening in Rev 15. We are told those standing on the sea of glass in heaven, (this sea of glass is empty in Rev 4) are the ones that overcame the beast, his mark, and the number of his name, placing them dead in the middle of the last part of the tribulation. What fallows this is the bowl judgments, which completes the wrath of God. (Rev 15:1-8). The large group in Rev 19 at the marriage supper of Lamb, we are told, it (MSL) has come, and not that it is already in progress. The Point is this. We see the so-called Tribulation Saints in heaven before Gods wrath begins. Also, this distinguishes the tribulation period from the wrath of God! Thlipsis/Orgi. Here is where Rev 3:10 applies.
Lastly. There is no mention of any chapter or verse whatsoever in scripture showing a great multitude of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, being raptured before the tribulation begins, or after the wrath of God is complete. There is only one gathering, and that's doing the Day of the Lord!!! No pretrib rapture folks!!!
Your explanation of the 24 elders is right on track. I was searching for scripture to support that they were elders and you have really found them. I thank very much. It could never be explained any clearer. You got.
100% CORRECT! see my post above
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
Thank you for sharing. That was a good explanations.
Thank you, sounds very well put together.
God bless
Brother, you have confirmed my own interpretation concerning the identity of these elders, and the significance of the number 24. Thank you for posting.
3 and 12 are also biblical numbers.
Well you are wrong like him. The answer is in 1chron.24.1chapter the sons of Aaron.
@@israelshells9726 1 Chron. has nothing to do with the scene in Revelation 4. In Chronicles the divisions are 16 and 8. Not so in Revelation. Amd what 'answer' are you implying? If you have a point to make, please make it. It's no use making some abstract sort of statement without explaining what you mean by it.
@@israelshells9726 3 wise men. The trinity. Jesus rose on the third day. 12 disciples. Jesus was 12 when he wandered off to the synagogue he was found 3 days later......
@@williambunter3311 thank you for your faith and knowledge. God bless.
We will find out for sure one day, yet until then very interesting and study on. 🙌
I agree This presentation was so sound & what I would believe about the 24 Elders. I will watch & listen again attentively. AWESOME! & I did subscribe.
Whaoo!! I just wondering how many years took you to receive this kind of revelation. That is the great revelation I ever come across thank you so much, our GOD he is a GOD of order and plan and that is how it looks very clear the way you manage to break chapter after chapter, thank you so much!!
Thank you for teaching me systematically about 24 elders
U just earned a subscriber, thank u for the explanation
Thanks brothers for this content.
I love this topic, thanks for uploading :)
Thank you for your faithfulness in bringing the word of God…. the word of truth, faith and eternal life with God the Father and his son, Jesus Christ.
Great analogy. Great work.
Love your explanation Bless You.
Thank you beautiful soul . God’s abundant blessings blessings always ❤🙏🏼❤️
Thanks for the well explained revelation...I have often found it difficult to understand certain aspects of this book, this is helping me a lot leading to more revelations
And you still don't understand. 1chron.24.1chapter the sons of Aaron
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NO-ONE understands it till JESUS CHRIST reveals it to THE WORLD!
@@ACuriousChild I gave you foolish people the answer now that's on yg
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GREAT, thanks a lot!
NOT that I believe it is important/possible to know, unless you really are GOD ALMIGHTY in the flesh, which would mean you are JESUS CHRIST!
Wonderful explanation!
Satisfying explanation so far❤
Powerful. I really enjoyed your word. You backed it up with scripture.
Forever oh Lord Your kingdom is established 🙏🏽
Truly pleased with what has been stated, Yahweh is gracious indeed and i have been blessed.
They are the ones from the earth who never defile themselves. Never sind . The are virgine who never defile themselve with woman. The ones who follow the lamb everywhere he go ministering everywhere he go. They are the chosen when from the earth that was given high authority that sit on the thorne with emortaltalty .
This is definitely the best view I have heard. Thank you for this...
So interesting and well explained. Yes, we also believe the rapture will occur prior to the tribulation. Lord bless you and keep you.
Thank you YAHshua Ha Mashiach for the clear information.
You did a very good job at explaining the identities of the Twenty Four Elders. Thanks.
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
@@gofish9392 But Jesus was there. He opened the first seal, eh?
@@EddieFox Yes, Jesus is there when the first seal is opened. However, He isn't there in Rev chapter 4. Tell me if this make sense to you? You've been delegated to present an award to a member of your church. You're standing on the stage with a document in hand, then someone says, Eddie Fox isn't here. Would that make sense? No! If Jesus is in heaven before someone said, there is no one in heaven to open the seal or to look at it, Rev 5:1-3 does this make any sense, eh?
This is sssooo awesome, I always wondered who the 24 elders were. Thank you VERY MUCH ! ❤
Well explained ,God bless you and us too
Excellent video. Sí complete, clear and well fundamented
Thank you!! I've been so confused and this makes perfect sense! This has truly been a blessing to me. I feel the Father confirming I am not to go through tribulation as I have always been worried about. Maranatha!
Maranatha!!
The vision is all about symbolism .. and other than God Himself and Angels must not be taken literally.
The Elders represent God's Children or the Church ... and are divided in 24 ... due to 1 Chronicles 24 with the priests of the Tabernacle.
Pre-Trib Rapture is an anti-Christ teaching ... as is being punished in Hell forever. God created Hell to punish Fallen Angels forever. The Human body & soul will be destroyed in Hell ... and it likely will take 3 days ... which is how long Jesus was in Hell for being tortured by Demons being punished forever. But time is part of the physical world. There is no time in Heaven or Hell so Jesus suffered for much longer than 3 earth days in Hell. And this is why Jesus clearly warned people of the punishment of death ... through Hell.
God must punish sinful Man with death ... of body & soul ... in Hell. The punishment is not forever, but you will be tortured by Demons for at least 3 days before your body & soul is destroyed and you cease to exist.
And God had to make the punishment through Hell ... otherwise more people will sin ... knowing they the punishment will simply be ... nothingness.
Every Angel was made by God ... and knew that if they sin ... they will be punished FOREVER in Hell. And one third of all the Angels willingly sinned knowing God will punish them forever in Hell. If the punishment has simply been ceasing to exist ... more Angels would have sinned.
God created Adam & Eve to live forever but they will die (cease to exist) if they sin(break God's law). And they very quickly sinned ... knowing that they will cease to exist. But in doing so, they corrupted the body of Man ... which is his Mind when alive ... which is why every Human Being will sin ... and there must be punished by God with death ... but by this time God made it clear the punishment will go through Hell, so people will fear a Just God, stop sinning and accept Jesus as Lord & Savior.
Again. Eternal punishment of Man in hell, Pretrib rapture, and once saved always saved is an antiChrist teachings. Time is only part of the physical world. There is no time in Hell & Heaven. When you die .. you go straight to Judgement Day in the future. Read Mathew 24
What does maranatha mean?
The believers who die before the Great Tribulation won't see it definitely. It will affect those believers who are still alive by that time. And they will be many (Rev 7:9-15)
There are many scriptures in the Bible to prove that the Great Tribulation will start before the Rapture takes place.
Mark 13:14-31. Matt 24:15-35. 2Thess 2:1-12 1Thess 4:13-18. Rev 7:9-17.
All the above scriptures point to the truth of God's Word that the Great Tribulation will not happen after the Rapture. Rather, The Rapture will happen during the Great Tribulation.
That's why we have been admonished to stand steadfast and to go back to our first love and to do the first works. Rev 2:4-7
@@FrankyDikey All of the prophesies are written from a living person's perspective ... on an Earth with time.
There is no time in Heaven or Hell.
God is Spirit ... and is timeless & eternal.
God created Man ( in His likeness) to to live forever ( ie Timeless) but knew Man would fall and will have to be punished & saved. There was was not actual Earth time before the fall of Man. God created the Heavens & the Earth in six days ... including the solar system ... knowing that there will be minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years and seasons ... after the Fall of Man.
God could have made everything in a split second ... but he chose 6 days with the 7th Day belonging to Him .... and 1 day is like a year or 1000 years to explain prophesies in the Bible.
6 x 1000 years Man rules the Earth
1 x 1000 years God rules the Earth.
Judgement Day
New Heaven & Earth with God living with His Children forever.
When you die, ... your soul leaves the Universe that has time ... and goes straight to Judgement Day in the year 7 000 Anno Mundi ... to either join Jesus forever or perish in Hell.
This is why Jesus said 2000 years ago to always be ready for His return .. because you do not know the day or hour ( you die).
This is also why Jesus promised the SAVED dying thief next to Him, that he would be in Heaven with Jesus that day. We know Jesus goes to Hell for 3 days after he died .... that day. And when Jesus returned from Hell, He still hand His Earth body with the scares and piercings ... and said He had not yet received His glory body & been raised to Heaven.
Again. For Jesus to be the sin sacrifice He had to be sent to Hell for as long as it takes ( on Earth) for the soul & body to be destroyed ... and .. when you die as Jesus did ... you either go to Heaven or Hell.
The Rapture or "lifting up" is what the living on Earth .... experience. But the dead believers were RAPTURED to Judgment Day the moment their body died.
This is also why when Jesus returns in the year 6 000 AM to rule the Earth for 1000 years with 144 000 Jews who were killed believing in the Christ during the tribulation ... the living believes ( and the dead from their perspective) are lifted up or raptured to Heaven to join Jesus forever. The Father & Son are not the Holy Spirit and can only take one form at a time. There is no time ... in Heaven or Hell.
And the Rapture is after the Tribulation not during because the living believers witness the return of Jesus.
Not all people are killed after tribulation. There a believing & non believing survivors.
Jesus rules for 1000 years .. over the non-believing survivors who will continue to pro-create. It is a 7000 years salvation plan ... not 6000. There will be more saved Children of God from the 1000 years of Gods' rule than the 6000 under Man. But 1/3 of the Angels sinned & become Demons .. when they where each created by God and knew they will be punished forever in Hell if they sin. God only created Adam & Eve perfect.
Adam & Eve procreated all people imperfect. So even with God ruling the Earth there will still be at least a third who will still reject God ... just as the Jew with God & Moses did in the desert.
It's not during ... but after. And that is the first resurrection or ... rapture. The second is in the year 7000 when there will no longer be any believers procreated by Man .. and therefore God must finally Judge Mankind.
Remember God gave Man the ability to make Man via procreation ... and free will.
God must punish all who sin with death in Hell ... but will save those who accept God's Salvation(Jesus). God gave Man free will and the ability to procreate Man ... which is why God must wait ... until the last Child of God is created by Man. At the year 7 000 AM .. no human being will ever accept Jesus as Lord & Savior ... and so God can finally punish mankind.
I've always believed the 24 were the 12 tribe leaders OT and the 12 Apostles NT but now I know why! Rev 21 and Matthew 19. Thank you so much for filling in this gap for me. A very informative video. I know what a "futurist" believes and can confirm I am one. Great stuff.
That is who the 24 elders are...
The 12 OT patriarchs and the 12 new testament Patriarchs
Also, 24 is the number of the priestly division in I Chronicles 23-24. The Greek presbyteros means elder and "elder" is the original form of the word "priest" whose duty is to serve before the Lord. Thus, it is possible that what John saw was the vision of 24 priests serving the Lord thru worship. John used Old Testament figures to enrich his symbols in his Book.
I agree with your interpretation, the 24 reflects the divisions of priest not a reference to 12 + 12. Thus suggestion is nothing new, and flawed. Thanks for your comment and doing a deeper five into scripture. Blessings
The biggest problem with your interpretation is the fact that Paul mentions 2 groups of people who will be raptured. The "dead in Christ along with those alive who believe in Jesus. It is hard for me to believe those dead in Christ omits all the OT saints who looked forward to Jesus atonement.
Thank you God for giving me strength. As a single mother things are hard on me. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m constantly struggling to provide for them and now that I’m home schooling them my hours to work are limited. I’m overwhelmed. Father God give me strength as I struggle to buy groceries and as I struggle to pay rent help me through this hard time.
This presentation makes sense. Thanks for sharing your analysis. We learn every single day. Shalom
I concur 100%. They are all believers that are pre-raptured and given crowns in heaven that rule with Christ. You nailed it.
Rapture is a protestant lie.
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
Thank you for your exposition.
I think your theory that the 24 elders could be a futuristic representation of both the new and old testament eldership of the church and the nation of Israel respectively is correct. There are many references in the Bible to support this theory.
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
In defense of prophet Kat - I believe you guys misquoted her. If I'm not mistaken she didn't call the 24 elders angels in the video clips you showed. Rather she called them ancient created beings. That does not automatically make them angels. God has enough creativity, ability and time on his hands to create other heavenly beings which are neither angels or believing saints ( people who had been redeemed ) Just thought on the counter. Thanks for the great work you do and for all all the time and energy you put into doing this. I pray God encourages you, strengthens you & increases your understanding of his Word and that He opens your eyes of enlightenment even further in Jesus name
I suppose that's a fair criticism. Thanks for the comment and the clarification!
She lied, she's never been to heaven.
@@geraldtadiwa5872 amen
Redeem from Earth They are The 12 Apostle of Jesus Christ to Heaven
They are not angel nor human, but God's creation that have flesh just like Melchizedek.
You explanation makes sense! Thank you!
Very good. Super informative and I love how they use scriptures to back their reasoning! We’ll done
I actually had two dreams/visions of the 24 Edlers seated in a circle, where one said, Welcome into the Inner Circle before in one, and where we were assembling (seated) at a table in the other.
Erm pretty sure that you didn’t. If we don’t go by scripture as to what the heavens are like, then we are not to entertain those things. Sounds like a rather vivid dream, nothing more. I’ll stick to what the living word of God says!
I'm pretty sure people living now arnt them, no matter what they dream
@@AshePBlack ouch!
Sounds more theosophical then biblical. The theosophists love their 'inner circle' mentality.
Remember that Satan can appear as an angel of light. And Jesus came in the form of a servant saying we need become like children to enter the kingdom. It is kind of the opposite spirit to say, 'welcome to the inner circle'.
Did they wink too?
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I am so happy to hear exactly what I always understood from the book of Revelations. The Scriptures are very specific in their words: elders are elders, angels are angels, beasts are beasts...Elders are not angels nor beasts and vice-versa. How some people say otherwise??? We must be very careful not to misinterprete the Word of God!! To our true unique God is the glory, Amen!!!
Yes. Indeed
Also chapter 7 Revelation the great multitude comes out of great tribulation which is the second half. John is told by one of the elders before the first she was opened who they are so they are in heaven already before the first she was open
Stop being a potato or donkey of the god Lah.
There are only God, Angels/Demons ... and Man.
The vision is full of symbolism.
The Elders are the God's Children or the church. There are 24 because to the division of Priests for the Tabernacle 1 Chronicles 24.
God created Man ... because he wanted to have Children ... and to live and rule with them forever.
And pretrib rapture, once saved always saved and Man being punished forever in Hell ... are Anti-Christ teachings.
God created Hell to only punish fallen Angels forever because they were created to be servants & helpers ... of God's Children.
God deliberately made His Children with puny body & soul because He knew that they would sin .. and he would have to punish them the body & soul with death. The human body & soul will die in Hell but it is not immediate. This is why God sent His only begotten Son with a perfect body & soul .... to take the punishment of any believer ( God's children). Jesus spend three days in Hell ... which in our time is how long Hell destroys soul. Jesus had to spend 3 day is Hell because God punishes for Man sinning is death of the body & the soul. Only Hell can destroy the soul .. so this is why God punishes Man through Hell.
Read Mather 24 ... and beware of false teachings and being lead astray.
No "s" in Revelation brother. Its the "Revelation of Jesus Christ". We add that "s" in because people have heard it said on TV and movies and so many say it now. I had to break myself of the habit too.
Yes elders are saints, angels are angels but there are no beasts, the creatures are a type of angels, thrones catagory because they reside near the throne, a person better hope they don't see one in that form while they live. People usually don't because the creatures look like cherub but are not that class
You are right about this submission. The 24 Elders are 12 Tribes of Israel and 12 Apostles.
God bless you brother.
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The sin is forgiven.."It is done." Knowing about the one who saved you is about.. Our Lord Jesus Christ.. God bless you all...
You asked what do I think? Totally agree that's what I think.!!! Thank-you so much for this explanation.It's 40 years on saved for me and I'm just understanding who they are. Great.
I guessed as you proved the 12 tribes or the 12 apostles but combining them gave the 24 and I love how it joins the pre Jesus with the post Jesus or old and New Testaments
Hallelujah Amen Eternally Amen
Thank you for your explanation . You have given me a better insight to the case of the 24 elders . I used to think the elders were those great men of God( forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob ) including prophets in the old testament times( like Moses, Isaiah and
So on ...) And kings like David and the apostles including Paul. I try to fill the no 24 with prominent people of the old and the new testament . But your explanation is perfect . Thank you brother .
John doesn't mention a slain lamb, or the risen Lord in chapter 4 of Revelation. In Revelation Chapter 5:3, it says this; And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. If Jesus was in heaven at that time, this statement doesn't make any since. If Jesus is the first to rise from the dead, and he is nowhere to be found in heaven in Revelation 4, then how could the 24 elders be the church or it's representative? Is the church raised before Jesus?
Thought so too. Quite profound revelation
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REVELATION 5:3 , " 3.And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
NO MAN IN HEAVEN ( NEW JERUSALEM , THE FATHER'S KINGDOM ) , NOR IN EARTH ( THE NATIONS THAT ARE SAVED ; WHICH HAST THEIR INHERITAGE IN THE EARTH , THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM IN GENESIS 10 ) , NEITHER UNDER THE EARTH ( THE ONES IN THE LAKE OF FIRE ) , WAS ABLE TO OPEN THE BOOK , NEITHER TO LOOK THEREON .
JOHN WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT TO THE FATHER'S KINGDOM , ON THE NEW EARTH , IN NEW JERUSALEM ; AFTER THE CREATION HAST BEEN COMPLETED .
THE END FROM THE BEGINNING ; LIKE A STORY BEING TOLD OF ONE'S LIFE , STARTING AT THE END , THEN REFLECTING BACK TO THE BEGINNING ; UNTIL THE STORY IS COMPLETED .
ISAIAH 46:10 , " 10.Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
SHALOM !
The ninth vision focuses on the Lamb. He stands on Mount Zion, with the 144,000 that he buys as firstfruits from among mankind. Though some of these still serve on earth, in a spiritual sense all 144,000 have “approached a Mount Zion and . . . heavenly Jerusalem.” (Hebrews 12:22) Appropriately, the 24 elders are also seen here before God’s throne, for they picture the same anointed group from a different standpoint-as already raised and installed as kings and priests. The 144,000 are singing “a new song.” It stems from their unique experience in being bought from the earth to become Kingdom heirs. The great crowd also “sing to Jehovah a new song,” but this differs in that they sing in prospect of attaining to everlasting life in the earthly realm of the Kingdom.-Revelation 7:9; 14:1-5; Psalm 96:1-10; Matthew 25:31-34.
Before you gave your final summation, I knew in my Spirit it was 12 from the old and 12 from the New...I concur with you in the scriptural examples given that it is the 12 Tribes and 12 Apostles.
Also, when anyone speaks so flippantly about 100's of visits to heaven it is a BIG red flag 🚩 to me...thanks for your hard work in seeking scriptural evidence to back what the Lord is showing you...
This was quite an insightful video. However a little clarification I would love to get would be on this:
On the idea that a section of the 24 elders were New Testament representatives in the persons of the 12 apostles, I am curious to understand how John (one of the 12 apostles) seeing the revelation appeared to have counted 24 elders excluding himself.
Also noting that at the point of the revelation John was still technically alive alongside a few other apostles perhaps.
OR
Could it be that the revelation of the 24 elders was a vision of the future and that in some sense John (the apostle who saw the revelation) was actually a part of the 24 elders in terms of his future self?
Exactly,! 100 visits to heaven? That was an exaggeration!!
Nicely done!