Me personally I feel this is the engine swap the 2000-2010 impalas Monte Carlo’s and even the Grand Prix needed. a soul American based competitor to the vtec engine along with competition to the civics and such. The impalas from 2000-2005 are suprisingly easy to work on if you have some technical knowledge same with Monte Carlo’s Buicks and Grand Prix s from the same year, they are great first cars and basically bullet proof the engines last longer than the chassis though. I feel the impalas and Monte Carlo’s need more love which in the right midn they do. With how widespread the cars are and how cheap they are to get they pretty much are the best first car for less than 5k without major repairs. If this engine ever gets out it’s a complete game changer. A kid with about 10k (I’m only guessing not actually sure) can buy a simple Monte Carlo impala whatever. And literally have it engine swapped and rwd swapped if they want. As I said game changer. I’m going to go military and when I get out of this engine is out I’m swapping my impala with it. I’ll have money to do so..
@@FreakashoniI have an 07 Impala LTZ with the 3800 V6, but that's not what I want this for. Outside I also got an Audi A4 Quattro with a bad engine. This would bring it alive better than new.
@@Cannontime It's getting there, they've gotten more popular in just the last couple of years. Only problem is it's a really tall motor, like 8 inches taller than an LS. If I had all the money I would put a big turbo built 4200 in my Corvette.
When I saw this motor for the first time and read the stats. It's an LS motor. 3.6 l. I simply applied the same calculation. I applied to all all motors. I figured out how much air you could move through the thing because that determines the horsepower motors are just air pumps 3.6* 61* 8,000/3456 If you can make a full size LS spin to 8000 RPMs you can definitely make a half size LS do it too At those specifications that I just gave you which is cubic inches* RPMs and then divide by the standard, this motor moves 508 cubic feet of air per minute. A standard hot rod motor has to move about 1.35 CFM to make a horsepower. An IndyCar motor is closer to 1.0 CFM to make a horsepower. If you go to things like the old old 1988 trans Am, it's more like 2.8 CFM to make a horsepower But modern-day hot rod motors, if you sit there and do the math on every Dyno run you see average about 1.35 CFM and then if they have compression Ant a high lift cam you can get it closer to 1.28 So this motor with the proper cam and RPM is perfectly capable of making that 340 horsepower naturally aspirated don't even need the turbo But a good turbo on this thing and it would be a monster Also, I am very well aware that CFM per horsepower is usually not a reference point that people use. It was simply the metric that I started with years ago watching dynamometer runs and calculating out how much air they were moving to acquire that power
Not sure about the 8k RPM because it's a very long stroke from what I understand. From what I understand it's based on an engine used in airport tugs and stuff like that. I'm very interested in what they will come up with.
Balance issues would prevent the engine from ever reaching anything close to 8k rpm. There's a reason why 4 cylinder engines rarely exceed 2 liters of displacement by any significant amount.
This motor won't get near 8,000rpm. It'd be surprised if it revved over 5500. 4 cylinder is a totally different engine than a V8. This is an industrial motor (for generators and heavy equipment), the muscle car world just went nuts because of the LS head on it.
@@davelowets In the mid 80's, while cruising "the strip" in a small midwestern city, two young women pulled alongside my buddy's '74 Camaro in a Pinto with a dual-quad tunnel ram 429 and wheelie bars. We were flabbergasted. Not everything has to be over-the-top. Some cars just need to double the horsepower, not put a 550 lb. big block over the front axle.
If the block was Aluminum i could see ppl in the light sport an experimental avation world being highly interested in the turbo version with so much power at low rpm. Kinda depends on what the primary and secondary imbalance vibrations are like tho, from what i understand.
@StringerNews1 I'm just beginning to learn about aviation engines. I don't know anything about the requirements the faa would require, just noticed that in small platforms people seem have been able to use automotive engines and snowmobile engines if they were small and light enough to fit the platform. Obviously I have much more to learn about such things, thanks for the correction.
@StringerNews1 Ahh I got ya. Yea, everything I've learned thus far has hilighted the benefits of using a boxer style engine. However, that doesn't mean they're the only way to go. My only non commercial flight was in a home built kit plane in the late 90's, it was powered by inline 4 cylinder volvo car engine. Can't remember if it was turbo or not, but I was really surprised by the fact he could use an automotive engine.
Liquid cooling is a lot of complexity for very minimal gains in GA aircraft. And drag saved by not needing airflow over the engine proper is extra drag for the scoops/ducts to direct airflow over the radiator. Also, without a reduction gear (PSRU=propeller speed reduction unit), about 2750rpm is maximum permissible RPM for a GA sized propeller plane. PSRUs are heavy and expensive - which is why few GA planes have them. It's also why the GA planes all have the same 360 or 540 cubic inch Lycoming or Continental horizontally opposed engines. Last, you never see high performance turbocharged engines in GA planes. You might see them in experimental planes that don't need to meet the rigorous durability standards set by FAA. You see some turochargers on GA planes - but they're not "high performance" the way automotive hotrodders think of it. Rather, they're usually set up in a "turbo-normalized" configuration - which is to say VERY low boost at low altitude and SOME boost at higher altitudes - essentially achieving equal power regardless of altitude. The cylinder pressure required to make big power at low engine speed is just too risky for GA planes.
I've got an '86 toyota pickup, and a '92 sonoma that I'd LOVE to swap this engine into!! Head studed, fire ringed and boosted to hell for the sonoma and slightly more mild turbo application for the 4x4 yota hell ya brother! Gimme Gimme!!!
@StringerNews1I don't think this is meant to replace what big blocks do. Besides a somewhat laggy small displacement engine with a turbo is a very fun Jekyll and Hyde feeling vehicle. I have driven a 400whp K series and if you watched your shift points it drove like a stock Honda. Rev it out a little and it became a monster.
When your video came out a couple of years ago, I actually called blueprint engines and they said that it was still a concept and on the back burners, but I had my fingers crossed.
Definitely looking forward to them releasing this engine as it will allow my project to be possible to race in IFO (import face off), PFI events, or the king of drag racing events WCF (World Cup Finals)
K series is a great engine and ahead of the field in the 4 cylinder world. However, per certain class rules I can’t run an import engine in a domestic (compact size) car. So, this blueprint engine will allow me to run in these classes as I’ll have a domestic 4 cylinder engine in a domestic compact size car
I really hope I see this out on the market, kinda wild no company makes an engine that sounds like that for a car, and it would sound like a big yamaha R1
My dad converted a 400 small block into a 4 cylinder that made over 300 hp and turn 9000 RPM. He got the plans from Smokey Yunick… That was in late 70’s
Making 4 identical Miata track cars for events is what I'd use this for. Telling me I could get parts of the shelf due to it being LS and it's a smaller form factor. Hell yes
This 4 cylinder would be perfect installed in my 1980 international scout terra (392 4 speed current) with 4l60 overdrive transmission. The 392 smokes bad and by itself the 392 outweighs a sbc 700r4 combination. Lol. Thats crazy heavy. I've been thinking of possibly swapping my terra to independent front suspension and making it a 2wd roadster with a big block chevy auto overdrive or tremec 6 speed. I'd probably just build a chassis to swap the body onto that way I could always swap it back to a 4x4 scout terra top to bottom. Just something I'm kicking around thanks for the great content. Keep em coming
I have a 2000 K2500 ex Forest Service truck with a 5.7 Vortec that guzzles gas. It spends it's days tooling around the mountains of Idaho under 30 mph. I would love something better than 12 mpg.
Let's be honest, with the way the laws around cars are changing, if it's not out by the middle of 2025, it's never getting made. It's only unique parts would be Block, inlet manifold and Crank, so would be super easy to get other parts for. As for what to put it in, a Holden Torana would be ideal, same with a early '80's RWD Corolla, Holden Gemini, '70's Ford Capri, every light duty pickup ever, Baja trucks and buggies, hillclimb cars, and if the block is Aluminium, small aircraft and boats - it'd be absolutely wicked powerful in the 3/4 sized carbon fibre P51 Mustang from Titan Aircraft.
I would love to take and use that engine for a tube chassis mid engine sports car with a flipped Porsche transaxle. Light weight with enough HP to make it fun and affordable.
Bro, you don’t need to run it with a turbo. If this does come out i will run it with a distributor and a carb. They specifications allow for a drop in distributor. And the bell housing is the same GM pattern.
They should make a cross-plane crank so that it will have a V8 like sound and it may be better balanced than huge I4s without a balance shaft are. If they could go 4.125"x4.125" or 4.125"x4.25" or 4.185"x 4.125" or 4.185" x 4.25" that would be really exciting as an N/A engine 350hp or more with one of those Blue Print rec port LS heads shouldn't be a problem at all, Richard Holdner got 700hp from a 468ci stroker with a factory 823 head.
Hopefully after all the r&d costs it's still remains cheaper than their V8 options or else it seems kind of irrelevant. A compact naturally aspirated version is the only thing that makes sense to me since if you're looking for additional power and needing extra space for a turbo and intercooler, you may as well just get one of their V8 options that already exist. At the end of the day, if it's actually based on an LS4, all I really want is that custom engine block and crankshaft (and maybe oil pan) then I can just put off the shelf LS4 parts in it (conrods, pistons, cylinder head, cam, etc) and build it out however I want.
I hate how they're in no rush. Blueprint has seemed to fall into the groove where they're making enough money now that they stopped doing cool stuff. Finish this mf up, some of us are WAITING and have several projects that would be great for this
If I was an off roader easily put it what ever Jeep or other 4x4 I had . Relatively light, twist like a big block even at 10,000 feet, 1/2 the fuel or better, simple to work on… plenty of room to fit it in. Yeah would probably like it at a less shaky 2.5 liters and settle for 350 ft lbs of torque and 225 HP but a 5k redline. I think there’s plenty of potential even in 2.5 l. Doesn’t the new Acadia run pretty close to that displacement and the 4 cyl Bronco is like a 2.3.. I think both of those with turbos are around 275 300 hp and again if you look at engines from the 80’s 1 ton trucks were running big blocks with similar numbers and pulling 10k lbs trailers so plenty of juice for a 4x4 😀. A 2.5 with a 6500 redline might be an awesome rally or autocross engine especially in an aluminum block!
Talked to a sales rep for blueprint at a goodguys show and I was told that the one they showed at pri wasn’t a running engine and that that was more of a proof of concept and they didn’t have any plans of actually making it.
It seems like with all the applications that this 4 Cylinder can do, they would bring it out faster. An engine that would always be sold out. whether its for automotive applications or marine, It could probably do it all perfectly.
Blueprint I hope you read the comments if I remember correctly, it had an LS3 style head, but I also thought you had a hemi head version which would be fantastic because of the flow dynamics of the head. I think it would be fantastic for many reasons, jeeps rat, rods, little hot rods even full size trucks open your forethink for a turbo, charging pro, charging fuel injection and carbureted. I understand this is a back burner thing for you, but honestly, the possibilities could be endless because the Cummins 4BT Has gotten very pricey
You're overthinking the cylinder head - because inline fours have god-awful balance. You can get away with it on little L4s, but the bigger they get - the worse the balance gets. About 2.0L is on the edge without balance shaft. 2.5-3.0L is on the edge WITH balance shaft. This is why you don't see big L4s that do high RPM....as in above 4500-5000 or so. Even the 3.0L Porsche 924 engine shook like a dog pooping razor blades at 6000. Coming back to the point - if you're not gonna turn high RPM, you don't need big heads that flow great. All you can really make use of is a good, moderate head - like an LS1 or LS6 type, so long as we're talking about LS's.
It's an interesting idea, especially for the S10 swappers, but... to be honest though, if I could stroke my 2.2 to 2.5 and do some other basic massaging and get 150hp and decent torque NA, that would be on the books first. That little thing's been giving me 120hp (or less) for the last 340,000 miles and is rarely less than "adequate", and that's all I want. Then again I'm weird enough to occasionally think about a 3 liter (circle track) Iron Duke in a 30's roadster or a model T runabout with a G10 in it. Yes, that G10, the Geo Metro (suzuki) 1.0 3 cylinder.
If you have the 2.2 get rid of it and purchase a remanufactured 4.3 for half the price. My stock 4.3 has 440k miles and still running great. I will absolutely rebuild it and keep driving it on to a million miles.
@@user-cs3zs6jn1d nope I'd swap before I did that sa.e ole boring swap....I'm considering this 4 cyl ls or the 2.7l high output turbo 4 cyl for this truck....looking for 450 whp+
Aside from my Fiero GT needing a new engine, I think building a S-10, Colorado, Blazer or Tahoe with one set up as a generator to power a small battery back and 2-4 motors would be cool, with the ability to feed power to a house or w/e for emergencies and what not.
By the way, Smokey took a stock Iron Duke, put a small supercharger on it with a turbo, stock fuel system with a bit more pressure and the stock HEI ignition system with a bit of tweak and made 250 hp with over 350 ft pounds of torque and not a single peep of ping or knock. That was on a used, over 75k mile, Iron Duke with the stock head. Guess someone had to finally figure out how to get a better Iron Duke and they just might have done so. Kudos! Now get it out as a kit or assy and let's get on the road with it.
If it's one thing I learned from my days playing with Ford 2.3L Limas...It doesn't matter how bad the cylinder head is, so long as the bottom end is strong enough to handle boost. Never had mine on the dyno, but that car (thunderbird) would easily outrun bolt-on LS1 camaros back in the day. Probably 350-400whp @ 25psi boost.
I want to put it in a first gen ranger or first gen 4 runner because it would be so delightful to annoy the purists and would go great for lifting those and dealing with bigger tires.
The size could definitely cause some NVH issues though at higher RPM, so maybe 250HP NA is a better estimate, just because it might shake itself apart if you spin it high enough to make 300.
A 3.6L inline four will shake itself to pieces at 5000rpm, even with a balance shaft. No way is it going to turn high enough to hit 300hp more than a few times.
Less electronics than a K series? How so? Doesn't it still need all the same sensors any other fuel injected turbo 4 cylinder is gonna need? I mean yeah a K series is gonna have a lot of emissions stuff, but if you're building one for a performance application you're not going to use any of that. It's going to have a standalone ECU with all the same sensors this 4 cylinder LS would need.
A k series is nothing short of a high performance engine but still a small 4cylinder like a ferrari v8 cut in half. An ls cut in half is more like a forklift engine lol it almost doesnt make sense at all but im curious anyways. Also the eletronics in a k series are simple and always work plus its why they have such advanced timing capabilities
My dad wants to put it in his baja bug and I want to swap it into a SxS. The demand is definitely there. If someone beats them to the market, they’ll be kicking themselves.
My 94 s10 been sitting in the barn since 2023 waiting on this unit
Me personally I feel this is the engine swap the 2000-2010 impalas Monte Carlo’s and even the Grand Prix needed. a soul American based competitor to the vtec engine along with competition to the civics and such. The impalas from 2000-2005 are suprisingly easy to work on if you have some technical knowledge same with Monte Carlo’s Buicks and Grand Prix s from the same year, they are great first cars and basically bullet proof the engines last longer than the chassis though. I feel the impalas and Monte Carlo’s need more love which in the right midn they do. With how widespread the cars are and how cheap they are to get they pretty much are the best first car for less than 5k without major repairs. If this engine ever gets out it’s a complete game changer. A kid with about 10k (I’m only guessing not actually sure) can buy a simple Monte Carlo impala whatever. And literally have it engine swapped and rwd swapped if they want. As I said game changer. I’m going to go military and when I get out of this engine is out I’m swapping my impala with it. I’ll have money to do so..
@@FreakashoniI have an 07 Impala LTZ with the 3800 V6, but that's not what I want this for.
Outside I also got an Audi A4 Quattro with a bad engine. This would bring it alive better than new.
everyone needs to call them and send emails and keep asking until we get it
S10!
BLUE PRINT WE WANT THIS ENGINE!!! THANK YOU
1987 S10 long bed...... that's what I would put it in ....
I have a 1998 S-10 , perfect home for this engine!!
hell yeah!
I mean basically anything but a like 3/4 ton truck and even then with a turbo you could it just wouldn't be ideal
Why? Put a used full ls in for way less money then half a new one.
I want it asap for hummer H3
Inline 6 LS would go crazy
4200?
I was just thinking that! Somebody made that v12 one, why not? At least the heads can be slapped on a ford 300
@@CannontimeNot an LS based engine.
@@ItsDaJax I know, buts it’s a modern inline 6 from GM. Wish it had the aftermarket support the LS does
@@Cannontime It's getting there, they've gotten more popular in just the last couple of years. Only problem is it's a really tall motor, like 8 inches taller than an LS. If I had all the money I would put a big turbo built 4200 in my Corvette.
This would be a great Fiero swap engine and would lovecto get my hands on one
A pushrod ohv and not an ohc which is nice
I'd absolutely do that for a fiero! I've also thought k24 and honda 6spd lsd
What would the bellhousing pattern on this? Should would...
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The 3.6 engine block has been in use for years. It's the Origin industrial engine. It currently uses a Ford 351 Windsor head.
I didn’t know this existed, and now I want a turbo one in a Pinto lol
@@barneymiller7894 I don't know if it would fit under a Pinto hood. I'm thinking more for a Ranger. It should fit.
Yeah what's the power numbers, you know torque and horsepower, and more importantly, how much does it weigh? This LS 4 banger is light as fuck.
This would be awesome for so many applications.
When I saw this motor for the first time and read the stats. It's an LS motor. 3.6 l. I simply applied the same calculation. I applied to all all motors. I figured out how much air you could move through the thing because that determines the horsepower motors are just air pumps
3.6* 61* 8,000/3456 If you can make a full size LS spin to 8000 RPMs you can definitely make a half size LS do it too
At those specifications that I just gave you which is cubic inches* RPMs and then divide by the standard, this motor moves 508 cubic feet of air per minute.
A standard hot rod motor has to move about 1.35 CFM to make a horsepower. An IndyCar motor is closer to 1.0 CFM to make a horsepower. If you go to things like the old old 1988 trans Am, it's more like 2.8 CFM to make a horsepower
But modern-day hot rod motors, if you sit there and do the math on every Dyno run you see average about 1.35 CFM and then if they have compression Ant a high lift cam you can get it closer to 1.28
So this motor with the proper cam and RPM is perfectly capable of making that 340 horsepower naturally aspirated don't even need the turbo
But a good turbo on this thing and it would be a monster
Also, I am very well aware that CFM per horsepower is usually not a reference point that people use. It was simply the metric that I started with years ago watching dynamometer runs and calculating out how much air they were moving to acquire that power
Not sure about the 8k RPM because it's a very long stroke from what I understand. From what I understand it's based on an engine used in airport tugs and stuff like that. I'm very interested in what they will come up with.
Balance issues would prevent the engine from ever reaching anything close to 8k rpm. There's a reason why 4 cylinder engines rarely exceed 2 liters of displacement by any significant amount.
Torque per liter is my question. 500 lb/ft at 1800 rpm?
This motor won't get near 8,000rpm. It'd be surprised if it revved over 5500. 4 cylinder is a totally different engine than a V8. This is an industrial motor (for generators and heavy equipment), the muscle car world just went nuts because of the LS head on it.
@@383mazdaMotorcycle engines and the k24 of the S2K, and the toyota engines in Lotus cars rev over 5500.
I am still wanting / waiting for this engine ! Lets go.
This engine in a Chevette would be BRUTAL
I'd like to find a mint Chevette to drop in a 3.9 V6-60* I have that came out of an Impala. Still looking...
I haven’t seen a chevette on the road in 20 years.
I saw a chevette with a 500" Cadillac V-8 in it. Fuck all that 4 or 6 cylinder non-sense
@@davelowets In the mid 80's, while cruising "the strip" in a small midwestern city, two young women pulled alongside my buddy's '74 Camaro in a Pinto with a dual-quad tunnel ram 429 and wheelie bars. We were flabbergasted.
Not everything has to be over-the-top. Some cars just need to double the horsepower, not put a 550 lb. big block over the front axle.
Man this would be a bread and butter engine if people had a finished product. This is perfect for jeeps Camaros S10 even some JDM.
There’s a entire market out there for industrial applications…
If the block was Aluminum i could see ppl in the light sport an experimental avation world being highly interested in the turbo version with so much power at low rpm. Kinda depends on what the primary and secondary imbalance vibrations are like tho, from what i understand.
@StringerNews1 I'm just beginning to learn about aviation engines. I don't know anything about the requirements the faa would require, just noticed that in small platforms people seem have been able to use automotive engines and snowmobile engines if they were small and light enough to fit the platform. Obviously I have much more to learn about such things, thanks for the correction.
@StringerNews1 Ahh I got ya. Yea, everything I've learned thus far has hilighted the benefits of using a boxer style engine. However, that doesn't mean they're the only way to go. My only non commercial flight was in a home built kit plane in the late 90's, it was powered by inline 4 cylinder volvo car engine. Can't remember if it was turbo or not, but I was really surprised by the fact he could use an automotive engine.
Liquid cooling is a lot of complexity for very minimal gains in GA aircraft. And drag saved by not needing airflow over the engine proper is extra drag for the scoops/ducts to direct airflow over the radiator. Also, without a reduction gear (PSRU=propeller speed reduction unit), about 2750rpm is maximum permissible RPM for a GA sized propeller plane. PSRUs are heavy and expensive - which is why few GA planes have them. It's also why the GA planes all have the same 360 or 540 cubic inch Lycoming or Continental horizontally opposed engines.
Last, you never see high performance turbocharged engines in GA planes. You might see them in experimental planes that don't need to meet the rigorous durability standards set by FAA. You see some turochargers on GA planes - but they're not "high performance" the way automotive hotrodders think of it. Rather, they're usually set up in a "turbo-normalized" configuration - which is to say VERY low boost at low altitude and SOME boost at higher altitudes - essentially achieving equal power regardless of altitude. The cylinder pressure required to make big power at low engine speed is just too risky for GA planes.
Replacement for The hurricane 4 In my 1958 Willys CJ3B
1972 Vega GT with shortened 12 bolt.
I put a SBC in a friends Vega Wagon in a weekend, shortened driveshaft and all.
Got an '87 S-10 "Zimmer" that needs the 2.8L V6 swapped out. I can totally see a turbo 4-banger in there.
If this engine is actually produced I would love to put a turbo version in a conquest tsi as a sleeper
I've got an '86 toyota pickup, and a '92 sonoma that I'd LOVE to swap this engine into!! Head studed, fire ringed and boosted to hell for the sonoma and slightly more mild turbo application for the 4x4 yota hell ya brother! Gimme Gimme!!!
Great offroad option
That really is a nice looking Duke. The torque numbers are hard to believe.
@StringerNews1 with a modern turbo it's probably pushing those numbers at 15 to 2100 RPM. With the right gearing that's not really much of a delay.
@StringerNews1I don't think this is meant to replace what big blocks do. Besides a somewhat laggy small displacement engine with a turbo is a very fun Jekyll and Hyde feeling vehicle. I have driven a 400whp K series and if you watched your shift points it drove like a stock Honda. Rev it out a little and it became a monster.
@StringerNews1 he obviously meant 1500rpm not 15
I would love to have one of these in my 89 jeep YJ. Currently a 2.5 L four-cylinder. So the four-cylinder swap makes sense to me. More HP please!
When your video came out a couple of years ago, I actually called blueprint engines and they said that it was still a concept and on the back burners, but I had my fingers crossed.
I hope this makes it to local oval track racing
Tons of potential. Can’t wait to see it made available.
I will be installing this on my 92 chevy s10.
Blueprints sister company origin sells this for industrial use already it's lower horsepower though
And why the power output is at such a low RPM
Block is different too, bell housing is proprietary.
Definitely looking forward to them releasing this engine as it will allow my project to be possible to race in IFO (import face off), PFI events, or the king of drag racing events WCF (World Cup Finals)
K series is a great engine and ahead of the field in the 4 cylinder world. However, per certain class rules I can’t run an import engine in a domestic (compact size) car. So, this blueprint engine will allow me to run in these classes as I’ll have a domestic 4 cylinder engine in a domestic compact size car
Early 90s s10 blazer.
I wanna hear this lil monster
Datsun b210, Suzuki Sidekick/Samurai, 1960-1963 Ford Falcon ,Fiat x19
Aluminum block would be great,all the samurai guys,jeep guys and even buggy builds would have another swap option
I could see this possibly being used as a resto mod engine for antique gas tractors maybe. The bottom end was from an airport tractor design.
Come on blue print we need this!
I would love to have this engine! Would be perfect for a lightweight offroad buggy. Sturdy, simple, small, and crazy low rpm torque.
I really hope I see this out on the market, kinda wild no company makes an engine that sounds like that for a car, and it would sound like a big yamaha R1
500ft.lbs. at 1800?!?! That's what most large generators turn. That thing would be a beast in a home generator.
it is based on a generator motor.
Thanks for the vid and contacting.
My dad converted a 400 small block into a 4 cylinder that made over 300 hp and turn 9000 RPM. He got the plans from Smokey Yunick… That was in late 70’s
Making 4 identical Miata track cars for events is what I'd use this for.
Telling me I could get parts of the shelf due to it being LS and it's a smaller form factor. Hell yes
I don’t get why they don’t see high sales with this motor. If cost is kept low, I see this dropping into everything. 🎉
This 4 cylinder would be perfect installed in my 1980 international scout terra (392 4 speed current) with 4l60 overdrive transmission. The 392 smokes bad and by itself the 392 outweighs a sbc 700r4 combination. Lol. Thats crazy heavy. I've been thinking of possibly swapping my terra to independent front suspension and making it a 2wd roadster with a big block chevy auto overdrive or tremec 6 speed. I'd probably just build a chassis to swap the body onto that way I could always swap it back to a 4x4 scout terra top to bottom. Just something I'm kicking around thanks for the great content. Keep em coming
I would love to see it have a balance shaft version so it can run smoother.
Dude, these guys have to make this engine. I would put it in my Chevy Equinox! 👍 👍
I wonder if they do put it in to production if they'll offer it as a tall deck version. Maybe even an inline 6 cylinder variant.
I have a 2000 K2500 ex Forest Service truck with a 5.7 Vortec that guzzles gas. It spends it's days tooling around the mountains of Idaho under 30 mph. I would love something better than 12 mpg.
This would be an awesome compact car derby engine, less wires, msd ignition, carbed and on methanol... Jesus it would be a beast!!!
Let's be honest, with the way the laws around cars are changing, if it's not out by the middle of 2025, it's never getting made. It's only unique parts would be Block, inlet manifold and Crank, so would be super easy to get other parts for.
As for what to put it in, a Holden Torana would be ideal, same with a early '80's RWD Corolla, Holden Gemini, '70's Ford Capri, every light duty pickup ever, Baja trucks and buggies, hillclimb cars, and if the block is Aluminium, small aircraft and boats - it'd be absolutely wicked powerful in the 3/4 sized carbon fibre P51 Mustang from Titan Aircraft.
I would love to take and use that engine for a tube chassis mid engine sports car with a flipped Porsche transaxle. Light weight with enough HP to make it fun and affordable.
Man this would be perfect in my 1989 Volvo 740 wagon. It’s in the spirit but with more displacement.
I have an s14 with no engine currently so I’d love to have this engine
Aftermarket 22R-EFI Turbo? Yes, please.
I cannot imagine a four banger with a free breathing LS cylinder head in a lightweight vehicle with a manual transmission.
I want this engine. Just to have it til i find the right vehicle for it.
If it delivered the numbers being speculated, it would be an animal in a small mid engine setup like an older MR2 or Fiero
Bro, you don’t need to run it with a turbo. If this does come out i will run it with a distributor and a carb. They specifications allow for a drop in distributor. And the bell housing is the same GM pattern.
Be a very cool marine turbo power plant
My 88 Mitsubishi Pajero SWB is ready for this.
This engine would be great for compact builds.
As soon as it's on the market ima get one for my Vega
I’d drop it in my 6-speed Honda Fit if possible. 😎
@@MadMexism nice
There’s a huge market for this in the airboat world.
They should make a cross-plane crank so that it will have a V8 like sound and it may be better balanced than huge I4s without a balance shaft are. If they could go 4.125"x4.125" or 4.125"x4.25" or 4.185"x 4.125" or 4.185" x 4.25" that would be really exciting as an N/A engine 350hp or more with one of those Blue Print rec port LS heads shouldn't be a problem at all, Richard Holdner got 700hp from a 468ci stroker with a factory 823 head.
Explain the cross-plane 4-cylinder engine and how it would differ. I've never heard of it and would like to understand the concept.
Hopefully after all the r&d costs it's still remains cheaper than their V8 options or else it seems kind of irrelevant. A compact naturally aspirated version is the only thing that makes sense to me since if you're looking for additional power and needing extra space for a turbo and intercooler, you may as well just get one of their V8 options that already exist.
At the end of the day, if it's actually based on an LS4, all I really want is that custom engine block and crankshaft (and maybe oil pan) then I can just put off the shelf LS4 parts in it (conrods, pistons, cylinder head, cam, etc) and build it out however I want.
My 96 S10 is patiently waiting
I'll believe it when i see it.
I would put out it in cobalt, miata, nissan 240 sx, Colorado, trail blazer, income, trax, Hondas
I think the "LS 4 bang" would be a perfect name for this engine.
If it's viable, it's got more demand potential than the back burner can provide. Just my opinion. Thanks for the investigation and report
My pleasure 🙏
Will it fit in a Miata?
I hate how they're in no rush. Blueprint has seemed to fall into the groove where they're making enough money now that they stopped doing cool stuff. Finish this mf up, some of us are WAITING and have several projects that would be great for this
They need to make the bolt pattern fit most ls trans
Sounds like they did
If I was an off roader easily put it what ever Jeep or other 4x4 I had . Relatively light, twist like a big block even at 10,000 feet, 1/2 the fuel or better, simple to work on… plenty of room to fit it in. Yeah would probably like it at a less shaky 2.5 liters and settle for 350 ft lbs of torque and 225 HP but a 5k redline. I think there’s plenty of potential even in 2.5 l. Doesn’t the new Acadia run pretty close to that displacement and the 4 cyl Bronco is like a 2.3.. I think both of those with turbos are around 275 300 hp and again if you look at engines from the 80’s 1 ton trucks were running big blocks with similar numbers and pulling 10k lbs trailers so plenty of juice for a 4x4 😀. A 2.5 with a 6500 redline might be an awesome rally or autocross engine especially in an aluminum block!
Talked to a sales rep for blueprint at a goodguys show and I was told that the one they showed at pri wasn’t a running engine and that that was more of a proof of concept and they didn’t have any plans of actually making it.
Conflicting comments from blueprint it seems
It seems like with all the applications that this 4 Cylinder can do, they would bring it out faster. An engine that would always be sold out. whether its for automotive applications or marine, It could probably do it all perfectly.
Blueprint I hope you read the comments if I remember correctly, it had an LS3 style head, but I also thought you had a hemi head version which would be fantastic because of the flow dynamics of the head. I think it would be fantastic for many reasons, jeeps rat, rods, little hot rods even full size trucks open your forethink for a turbo, charging pro, charging fuel injection and carbureted. I understand this is a back burner thing for you, but honestly, the possibilities could be endless because the Cummins 4BT Has gotten very pricey
You're overthinking the cylinder head - because inline fours have god-awful balance. You can get away with it on little L4s, but the bigger they get - the worse the balance gets. About 2.0L is on the edge without balance shaft. 2.5-3.0L is on the edge WITH balance shaft. This is why you don't see big L4s that do high RPM....as in above 4500-5000 or so. Even the 3.0L Porsche 924 engine shook like a dog pooping razor blades at 6000. Coming back to the point - if you're not gonna turn high RPM, you don't need big heads that flow great. All you can really make use of is a good, moderate head - like an LS1 or LS6 type, so long as we're talking about LS's.
That would be awesome in my 36 Plymouth.
My matrix needs an engine, this would be perfect
It's an interesting idea, especially for the S10 swappers, but... to be honest though, if I could stroke my 2.2 to 2.5 and do some other basic massaging and get 150hp and decent torque NA, that would be on the books first. That little thing's been giving me 120hp (or less) for the last 340,000 miles and is rarely less than "adequate", and that's all I want.
Then again I'm weird enough to occasionally think about a 3 liter (circle track) Iron Duke in a 30's roadster or a model T runabout with a G10 in it. Yes, that G10, the Geo Metro (suzuki) 1.0 3 cylinder.
My 2000 s10 5 speed is drooling over that with hungry eyes and cash in hand
If you have the 2.2 get rid of it and purchase a remanufactured 4.3 for half the price. My stock 4.3 has 440k miles and still running great. I will absolutely rebuild it and keep driving it on to a million miles.
@@user-cs3zs6jn1d nope I'd swap before I did that sa.e ole boring swap....I'm considering this 4 cyl ls or the 2.7l high output turbo 4 cyl for this truck....looking for 450 whp+
@@danmorrow9127 😂 gonna be in the garage for repairs and maintenance more than on the pavement
@@user-cs3zs6jn1d that only happens to the 4.3l
@@danmorrow9127 ok
I got an S10 2.2 that really needs this sooo bad.
would be nice to look at as a comparison on the old redblocks on old volvos 🤔
I have an FD Rx7 I bought as a rolling shell. I would love to put a turbo version of this in it!
Aside from my Fiero GT needing a new engine, I think building a S-10, Colorado, Blazer or Tahoe with one set up as a generator to power a small battery back and 2-4 motors would be cool, with the ability to feed power to a house or w/e for emergencies and what not.
By the way, Smokey took a stock Iron Duke, put a small supercharger on it with a turbo, stock fuel system with a bit more pressure and the stock HEI ignition system with a bit of tweak and made 250 hp with over 350 ft pounds of torque and not a single peep of ping or knock. That was on a used, over 75k mile, Iron Duke with the stock head. Guess someone had to finally figure out how to get a better Iron Duke and they just might have done so. Kudos! Now get it out as a kit or assy and let's get on the road with it.
If it's one thing I learned from my days playing with Ford 2.3L Limas...It doesn't matter how bad the cylinder head is, so long as the bottom end is strong enough to handle boost. Never had mine on the dyno, but that car (thunderbird) would easily outrun bolt-on LS1 camaros back in the day. Probably 350-400whp @ 25psi boost.
I want to put it in a first gen ranger or first gen 4 runner because it would be so delightful to annoy the purists and would go great for lifting those and dealing with bigger tires.
Would like to see it in an LLV mail truck.
If that’s the same rectangle port head found on the ls3 and ly6, that motor should easily make 300hp NA at pretty reasonable RPM.
The size could definitely cause some NVH issues though at higher RPM, so maybe 250HP NA is a better estimate, just because it might shake itself apart if you spin it high enough to make 300.
Gen 4 SBC
@@Cowboy.underwaterstill a concept engine
A 3.6L inline four will shake itself to pieces at 5000rpm, even with a balance shaft. No way is it going to turn high enough to hit 300hp more than a few times.
I got a pontiac sunfire i would loto drop this in. Also a pontiac fiero would be great for this
I'd love to put this in my s13. Also curious do you think since it's ls based we would see it at ls fest one day?
Its possible
I have a Mk1 Mr2. My chassis is ready 😎
love to see this in a boat
Are they the same company that was building a 4cly hemi
Will it be a front-wheel drive ? I would love to find out how good that works for a 2008 Pontiac G5
Less electronics than a K series? How so? Doesn't it still need all the same sensors any other fuel injected turbo 4 cylinder is gonna need?
I mean yeah a K series is gonna have a lot of emissions stuff, but if you're building one for a performance application you're not going to use any of that.
It's going to have a standalone ECU with all the same sensors this 4 cylinder LS would need.
Hmm..I guess you do bring up a good point 🤔
A k series is nothing short of a high performance engine but still a small 4cylinder like a ferrari v8 cut in half. An ls cut in half is more like a forklift engine lol it almost doesnt make sense at all but im curious anyways. Also the eletronics in a k series are simple and always work plus its why they have such advanced timing capabilities
All you would need is crank trigger wheel and sensor for a C.O.P. ignition box. Set of webers carbs and be good to go.
I thought the same when I heard him make that claim.
I'd like to build a motorcycle around it, sort of like the old Clevelands.
Yes please!!!
Still want this for my firt gen s10
They didn’t realize how many old-school racing guys who want to put reliable four-cylinder in their old English racecar there are.
Imagine the swaps into old cars
I need one it will go in my impreza so fast
My dad wants to put it in his baja bug and I want to swap it into a SxS. The demand is definitely there. If someone beats them to the market, they’ll be kicking themselves.