Makes good sense. Did WW for years on and off, now I just eat what I feel like and stay the same weight. I try to keep within my BMI but that's it. I love cooking and I feel a freedom now I haven't felt in years. Love your chat ❤xx
This was so interesting. I joined SW a month ago and left a few days ago after realising how dangerous the whole mindset was for ny relationship with food. I was being praised for skipping meals, shamed for eating half a teacake and encouraged to not go out for a meal with my family... or at least just take a hifi bar in my handbag. After I stopped I did a check of the calories I had been eating and it was just over 1000. No wonder i was so hungry and generally unhappy. I looked around that room on Wednesday at people who had been there YEARS and I was fed up after 4 weeks. I actually did "well" and lost 8lb in that time (and i didn't have loads to lose really) but at what cost? Thank you both for these videos. I was looking to see if anyone else came to the same conclusion I did and it is very reassuring to find this
Thank you. Well done for coming to those conclusions early on and getting yourself out of it. You're right, so many people stay for years. It's really sad.
I have a background in eating disorder research and a past history of an ED. What this video makes me realise is that the only people who can keep 100% to plan have strayed into ED territory. Also, I am in favour of harm reduction so it's clear that SW is at least better than WW in that it does let you eat a lot of certain foods. WW is just pure starvation. Also, random comment, but you both have beautiful eyes! 😂
Thank you for this. You're right - so many people come to these groups looking to lose weight and leave with disordered eating. It's scary. And thanks for the random comment too 😁😉
I love watching your viedo, you two tell the truth. I go slimming group. I lost 4 stone r lb in 10 months. Im stil on target. I use execrise everyday, nowi dont but i still lose. I got lot awards , and top one on execrise. Cant wait watch next one. It too these things your talking about, i gone from 16 now size 10
Thanks ladies,I needed to hear this today,I recently joined slimming world yet again ,not really in love with it anymore ,used to love it years ago red and green days,but your so right about how slimming world it makes you obsessed with food in been on the bank wagon of dieting all my life and so fed up with it,I'm going to learn more of intrusive lifestyle ,and sounds a much more realistic way of life,thank you
Oh Karen, I'm so sorry that you felt you needed to go back there. It's no fun is it. I do have something that might help you to start a more intuitive way of eating. I've got a free course you might like. It's called Eat From Within - 3 Steps To Food Freedom. Take a look: terripugh.xyz/3Steps
Thank you I will take it in today when I sit down tonight,really want to get On board with it all,when I joined again felt it was my only choice ,and felt it was what I had to do and I had to do it to be healthy,and if I failed it's just a terrible cycle but not any options,I was either a hundred hundred per cent ,or over done the Synn's and couldn't stop so stopped going to group again,or stage for a few days for a pound off scales you know the story
I'm gonna reserve judgement on this video, and will revisit in 6 month times. To date this has not been my experience thus far. I have an amazing consultant. 7 months in to my journey, i have lost 3.5stns. But as i said, i will revisit this video again. 🥰
I'm really pleased that you like your consultant. We were in no way placing the blame on the consultants, at all. However there are really serious issues for health and wellbeing that are attached to weight cycling and constant dieting. Everyone has body autonomy, but I'd love for people to make educated decisions on what they choose for themselves. Keep in touch. I hope you'll subscribe and enjoy learning more about Intuitive Eating.
Red and Green worked, it came off not like extra easy lose a pound gain a pound,that’s why they got rid it as people got to their targets, and left, with extra easy you don’t lose or if you do slower more money for them. Maybe a video on the old style.
Oh interesting! Have you noticed that red and green were based on restriction? You can't eat certain foods on certain days. Not at all healthy, or good for anyone's relationship with food.
red days were low carb/high protein, Green days were vegetarian based with limited meats. You'd get 2 healthy extras a day too. On a red day you'd use healthy extras on carbs, potatoes etc. On Green days your healthy extras could be used on meats etc. I personally think those rules worked better, but I am deffo no fan of Slimming World. It just makes food unnecessarily complicated and gives you guilt. A lot of their ideas are extremely similar to the archaic "food combining" diets. Very unsuitable for modern life. I also absolutely remember "syns" being called SINS! though sw doesn't like to admit this!
@@andreasattic_99 yes, absolutely. Those red and green days meant that you were 'allowed' certain foods on certain days, and if you wanted the foods that were off plan for that day you had to syn them. Like you say, that is no way to live with food.
I think the real joke is allowing the hi Fi bars as a healthy extra. Some people use their syns for unhealthy snacks and still eat their two hi FY bars as the healthy extra, slowly manurishing themselves.
You're right. Diets like this make you calculated in your eating so that you can 'make the most' of your food allowance and get the most 'treats' in. Such a shame, because if you allow yourself to eat intuitively you'd just have a nice balance of everything you need.
I'd love to see you making friends with your body again, rather than trying to change it. There's so much about you that is already perfect. However, bodies change for lots of different reasons. When your body is forced to change through dieting that's basically starving it of energy and resources that it needs, and the change is the by-product. Maybe you could look at doing other things to take care of it and respect it instead of punishing it? Movement is a good example. You can move to make your body strong and well and ready for future strains like old age. If weight loss is a by-product of that so be it, but it shouldn't be the reason why you're doing it.
Brilliant video thank you ladies. Avocado absolutely will eat even on slimming world also,I will eat my banana in any way I choose. I have also just started my level 3 diploma in nutrition so this next few months will be interesting x
I really like this way of looking at food differently much better than all this Diet rubbish! Have tried every diet going and lost the weight but then put it all back on again every single time
I have always asked question and when the consultant ask what you are going to lose every week ny answer was I will take each week as it comes as I did no want to be put under pressure as I had problem with my weight when I was younger And I tried this before the covid and was doing well the it hit me and put all my weight on but I started back a year ago but I don’t do without anything I have a well balanced food plan it suits me now and I have been at target for 24 weeks now but I under stand a lot more now and I never set my target to I felt comfortable about this 🐝🐝
Oh that question - 'what are you going to lose this week?'. How can you possibly know that???? What a stupid thing to ask people. For some it is motivating, but for a lot it is daunting and feels like an empty promise.
I started my first diet at aged 18 and I'm now 52. I'm nearly the biggest I have ever been. I went back to SW and can't stand in the que waiting to be weighed and sit in the group anymore. I paid for a count down but I can't mentally do this anymore. The effects on my MH is no longer worth it. All I want to be is me not compare to others who lose more etc, who's families are better etc.
I don't focus on that. There's no such thing as a healthy weight. I eat a really good range of foods, I pay attention to what my body needs and how it responds to food, and I have enough movement and self care in my life. Weight does not equal health.
I've often asked about mashing a baba a. It makes no sense it's classed as free if eaten whole but if its mashed or liquidised it has to be counted. How ridiculous. You don't have to count carrots if you liquidise them in a soup.... Or sprouts... Or cabbage.... Sweet potato.... Yes no one swallow a banana wholesale.... Of course it's bitten and chewed before being swallowed... So what's the difference between chewing and mashing?
Not everyone has been yo-yo dieting for years. Not everyone suffers from an eating disorder. What if you've always ate intuitively and were fine for years but as you get older weight has crept up with having babies and not having time for excercise. What if you just have some bad habits with crisps and sweets (but not binging). Surely a healthy eating plan is a good idea. I am dieting mainly for health. One issue I have is that huge losses are encouraged but this is usually achieved by over-restricting. A moderate restriction is not unhealthy if coupled with excercise.
There are a couple of points in your comment that interest me. You mention having bad habits with crisps and sweets. A 'bad habit' around food is usually because you're not in tune and eating intuitively. It's a behaviour. But in those moments asking what you want and need may help to break those habits. Also, health is the result of behaviours, not food. When you say you diet for health, what you're saying is you don't have the focus on the intuitive eating, and so your balance of foods is out. When you eat intuitively your body naturally regulates the nutrient intakes, and therefore providing the best for your body at any time. I will never be an advocate for any restriction, especially if it is dependant on exercise. Exercise is of course excellent if you do it with the intention of feeling good physically and mentally, and making your body strong and fit. If it is linked to food though the focus is wrong. One is not linked to the other. I agree that huge losses come from over restricting, and that's where these plans are no good.
They do reward activity, but in a more subtle way. So it's not extra points for food, but there is a reward system such as the certificates and stickers.
See.... the madness that is slimming world rules! Mashed banana is a no, but you can mash them up and put them in pancakes!! 😆🤯 Slimpod is TERRIBLE!!! There's a lot of mindset work needed around food, but you do also need to understand your relationship with food and what you need for your body.
Even the word Syn has psychological connotations. It’s almost like you’re being really naughty, it’s ridiculous and in my experience leads to binge eating!
You are absolutely right, they are very serious conditions. I can discuss disordered eating but you will have noticed that we both mentioned in the episode that we are not eating disorder clinicians. We bring topics like this forward so that people can hopefully find a more peaceful way with food before full blown eating disorders come into effect.
Makes good sense. Did WW for years on and off, now I just eat what I feel like and stay the same weight. I try to keep within my BMI but that's it. I love cooking and I feel a freedom now I haven't felt in years. Love your chat ❤xx
That's great to hear
And that is why I haven’t owned a pair of scales for over 20 years! I know if I’ve put on weight or I’ve lost weight by my clothes
This makes me so happy. Same here. My scales went a long time ago.
This was so interesting. I joined SW a month ago and left a few days ago after realising how dangerous the whole mindset was for ny relationship with food. I was being praised for skipping meals, shamed for eating half a teacake and encouraged to not go out for a meal with my family... or at least just take a hifi bar in my handbag. After I stopped I did a check of the calories I had been eating and it was just over 1000. No wonder i was so hungry and generally unhappy. I looked around that room on Wednesday at people who had been there YEARS and I was fed up after 4 weeks. I actually did "well" and lost 8lb in that time (and i didn't have loads to lose really) but at what cost? Thank you both for these videos. I was looking to see if anyone else came to the same conclusion I did and it is very reassuring to find this
Thank you. Well done for coming to those conclusions early on and getting yourself out of it. You're right, so many people stay for years. It's really sad.
I have a background in eating disorder research and a past history of an ED. What this video makes me realise is that the only people who can keep 100% to plan have strayed into ED territory.
Also, I am in favour of harm reduction so it's clear that SW is at least better than WW in that it does let you eat a lot of certain foods. WW is just pure starvation.
Also, random comment, but you both have beautiful eyes! 😂
Thank you for this. You're right - so many people come to these groups looking to lose weight and leave with disordered eating. It's scary.
And thanks for the random comment too 😁😉
I love watching your viedo, you two tell the truth. I go slimming group. I lost 4 stone r lb in 10 months. Im stil on target. I use execrise everyday, nowi dont but i still lose. I got lot awards , and top one on execrise. Cant wait watch next one. It too these things your talking about, i gone from 16 now size 10
Thanks for watching
Thanks ladies,I needed to hear this today,I recently joined slimming world yet again ,not really in love with it anymore ,used to love it years ago red and green days,but your so right about how slimming world it makes you obsessed with food in been on the bank wagon of dieting all my life and so fed up with it,I'm going to learn more of intrusive lifestyle ,and sounds a much more realistic way of life,thank you
Oh Karen, I'm so sorry that you felt you needed to go back there. It's no fun is it. I do have something that might help you to start a more intuitive way of eating. I've got a free course you might like. It's called Eat From Within - 3 Steps To Food Freedom. Take a look: terripugh.xyz/3Steps
Thank you I will take it in today when I sit down tonight,really want to get On board with it all,when I joined again felt it was my only choice ,and felt it was what I had to do and I had to do it to be healthy,and if I failed it's just a terrible cycle but not any options,I was either a hundred hundred per cent ,or over done the Synn's and couldn't stop so stopped going to group again,or stage for a few days for a pound off scales you know the story
Meant to say starve myself,before weigh in,predictive text
@@karenaustin7088 it's a tale as old as time. Welcome to something better now...... 😊
Thank you x
I'm gonna reserve judgement on this video, and will revisit in 6 month times. To date this has not been my experience thus far. I have an amazing consultant. 7 months in to my journey, i have lost 3.5stns. But as i said, i will revisit this video again. 🥰
I'm really pleased that you like your consultant. We were in no way placing the blame on the consultants, at all. However there are really serious issues for health and wellbeing that are attached to weight cycling and constant dieting. Everyone has body autonomy, but I'd love for people to make educated decisions on what they choose for themselves. Keep in touch. I hope you'll subscribe and enjoy learning more about Intuitive Eating.
Red and Green worked, it came off not like extra easy lose a pound gain a pound,that’s why they got rid it as people got to their targets, and left, with extra easy you don’t lose or if you do slower more money for them. Maybe a video on the old style.
Oh interesting! Have you noticed that red and green were based on restriction? You can't eat certain foods on certain days. Not at all healthy, or good for anyone's relationship with food.
red days were low carb/high protein, Green days were vegetarian based with limited meats. You'd get 2 healthy extras a day too. On a red day you'd use healthy extras on carbs, potatoes etc. On Green days your healthy extras could be used on meats etc. I personally think those rules worked better, but I am deffo no fan of Slimming World. It just makes food unnecessarily complicated and gives you guilt. A lot of their ideas are extremely similar to the archaic "food combining" diets. Very unsuitable for modern life. I also absolutely remember "syns" being called SINS! though sw doesn't like to admit this!
@@andreasattic_99 yes, absolutely. Those red and green days meant that you were 'allowed' certain foods on certain days, and if you wanted the foods that were off plan for that day you had to syn them. Like you say, that is no way to live with food.
I think the real joke is allowing the hi Fi bars as a healthy extra. Some people use their syns for unhealthy snacks and still eat their two hi FY bars as the healthy extra, slowly manurishing themselves.
You're right. Diets like this make you calculated in your eating so that you can 'make the most' of your food allowance and get the most 'treats' in. Such a shame, because if you allow yourself to eat intuitively you'd just have a nice balance of everything you need.
Hi fi bars are not healthy
I understand everything you have just said here. When your unhappy with your body how do you go about losing weight in a healthy and sustainable way?
I'd love to see you making friends with your body again, rather than trying to change it. There's so much about you that is already perfect. However, bodies change for lots of different reasons. When your body is forced to change through dieting that's basically starving it of energy and resources that it needs, and the change is the by-product. Maybe you could look at doing other things to take care of it and respect it instead of punishing it? Movement is a good example. You can move to make your body strong and well and ready for future strains like old age. If weight loss is a by-product of that so be it, but it shouldn't be the reason why you're doing it.
Brilliant video thank you ladies. Avocado absolutely will eat even on slimming world also,I will eat my banana in any way I choose.
I have also just started my level 3 diploma in nutrition so this next few months will be interesting x
Oh fantastic! Exciting times ahead. Enjoy the studies.
@@terripughcoaching thank you.
I really like this way of looking at food differently much better than all this Diet rubbish! Have tried every diet going and lost the weight but then put it all back on again every single time
Sadly that's what diets make your body do. They force your weight higher and higher each time.
I have always asked question and when the consultant ask what you are going to lose every week ny answer was I will take each week as it comes as I did no want to be put under pressure as I had problem with my weight when I was younger And I tried this before the covid and was doing well the it hit me and put all my weight on but I started back a year ago but I don’t do without anything I have a well balanced food plan it suits me now and I have been at target for 24 weeks now but I under stand a lot more now and I never set my target to I felt comfortable about this 🐝🐝
Oh that question - 'what are you going to lose this week?'. How can you possibly know that???? What a stupid thing to ask people. For some it is motivating, but for a lot it is daunting and feels like an empty promise.
I started my first diet at aged 18 and I'm now 52. I'm nearly the biggest I have ever been. I went back to SW and can't stand in the que waiting to be weighed and sit in the group anymore. I paid for a count down but I can't mentally do this anymore. The effects on my MH is no longer worth it. All I want to be is me not compare to others who lose more etc, who's families are better etc.
I think that's it - your mental health is worth so much more than that. Recognising that is the first step out of diet culture. Good for you x
So what do you do now to keep at a healthy weight?
I don't focus on that. There's no such thing as a healthy weight. I eat a really good range of foods, I pay attention to what my body needs and how it responds to food, and I have enough movement and self care in my life. Weight does not equal health.
Glad that you are healthy. Thank you for an interesting discussion.@@terripughcoaching
I've often asked about mashing a baba a. It makes no sense it's classed as free if eaten whole but if its mashed or liquidised it has to be counted. How ridiculous. You don't have to count carrots if you liquidise them in a soup.... Or sprouts... Or cabbage.... Sweet potato.... Yes no one swallow a banana wholesale.... Of course it's bitten and chewed before being swallowed... So what's the difference between chewing and mashing?
Just one of the crazy things about dieting that we cannot stand!!
Not everyone has been yo-yo dieting for years. Not everyone suffers from an eating disorder. What if you've always ate intuitively and were fine for years but as you get older weight has crept up with having babies and not having time for excercise. What if you just have some bad habits with crisps and sweets (but not binging). Surely a healthy eating plan is a good idea. I am dieting mainly for health. One issue I have is that huge losses are encouraged but this is usually achieved by over-restricting. A moderate restriction is not unhealthy if coupled with excercise.
There are a couple of points in your comment that interest me. You mention having bad habits with crisps and sweets. A 'bad habit' around food is usually because you're not in tune and eating intuitively. It's a behaviour. But in those moments asking what you want and need may help to break those habits. Also, health is the result of behaviours, not food. When you say you diet for health, what you're saying is you don't have the focus on the intuitive eating, and so your balance of foods is out. When you eat intuitively your body naturally regulates the nutrient intakes, and therefore providing the best for your body at any time. I will never be an advocate for any restriction, especially if it is dependant on exercise. Exercise is of course excellent if you do it with the intention of feeling good physically and mentally, and making your body strong and fit. If it is linked to food though the focus is wrong. One is not linked to the other. I agree that huge losses come from over restricting, and that's where these plans are no good.
I thought it was just Weight Watchers who gave points for activity? I’ve never known SW to do that.
They do reward activity, but in a more subtle way. So it's not extra points for food, but there is a reward system such as the certificates and stickers.
Confession i eat mashed banana and egg pancakes on slimming world. Have you heard of the slimpod? Very similar to what you ladies are talking about x
See.... the madness that is slimming world rules! Mashed banana is a no, but you can mash them up and put them in pancakes!! 😆🤯 Slimpod is TERRIBLE!!! There's a lot of mindset work needed around food, but you do also need to understand your relationship with food and what you need for your body.
@terripughcoaching what is wrong with slimpod. It's just intuitive eating and a mind set changing meditation x
@@daniellebrogan8699 because sadly the focus is still on weight loss.
So depressing to restrict yourself for life I just can’t do it
Yes, and i think that's what people forget - it's still restriction, even if they say you can 'eat anything'
Even the word Syn has psychological connotations. It’s almost like you’re being really naughty, it’s ridiculous and in my experience leads to binge eating!
So so true!
And when you get your certificate, do you have to give it back when you put that weight back on, because 99.8% will put it back on!
Ha! Yes!
You need to be serious when talking about eating disorders or disordered eating because people DIE from them!!!!
You are absolutely right, they are very serious conditions. I can discuss disordered eating but you will have noticed that we both mentioned in the episode that we are not eating disorder clinicians. We bring topics like this forward so that people can hopefully find a more peaceful way with food before full blown eating disorders come into effect.