Do NOT Buy a Home in THESE Detroit Suburbs
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2021
- AVOID Buying a Home in THESE Detroit Suburbs! These are some of the worst places to live in Michigan because they have the MOST EXPENSIVE city taxes in Metro Detroit and make for bad long-term investments if you're moving to Michigan. Your Michigan property tax bill NEVER goes away and will skyrocket if you plan to rent a house in these cities.
Metro Detroit IS one of the BEST places to live in Michigan if you know where to look.
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He finally starts the list @3:41
Thanks!
Godayum thanks
And what a list it is. I live in the area and know it well, so here's a low down. Royal Oak. Solid family town. Costly. Royal Oak Township (Not to be confused with Royal Oak ). Good investment possibilities for up and coming Slum Lords. Ferndale. Soon to be known as Wokeville. Southfield. Sturdy working mans land. That's about it. Detroit, Southeast Michigan and Michigan in general is ok. We have lousy roads. Two seasons, winter and the Fourth of July. We have Taxes, and crime, just about come in second in everything and if this isn't an incentive to move here, we have the Lions
I want to thank you for the wonderful and entertaining videos that you have posted about living in Michigan. You were very helpful and instrumental while I was in the housing market.
It was through your videos (and one other significant persons videos) that I was able to understand some important aspects about the home buying process. The 2021 housing market was very tough and tougher for a V.A. buyer. Your videos helped me to understand how to navigate in that difficult market. One of the most important things that I learned in your videos is how Proposition A works.
I was able to ensure that my estimated escrow was closer to what the uncapped property taxes would be and avoid having a significant house note increase from underestimated property taxes in my closing disclosure. I think that your videos provide a wonderful and entertaining public service to prospective homebuyers.
It’s awesome to see you getting better and better on RUclips Paul!! Great content.
And I had no idea my taxes were best in my part of Westland. I guess I lucked out. Great info brother 💪
Thanks man! Appreciate it 😃
I’m watching a video about housing tax rates in my area and I’m really enjoying it. Where the hell did my youth go 😂
😂 best comment of the year!
Surprisingly high the taxes in MI. In CA housing is 3-4 X higher but property taxes seem about the same! Great vids!
Thank you. As a Southfield resident thinking of moving. I might reconsider.
I'll have to remember to check mils in the future when we start investing in rentals. Got a home almost identical to the one I grew up in, in the same city, so I knew what to expect roughly in yearly taxes and ins..
Would love for you to do a similar video on northern macomb county!
Thank you!!! We are looking to move in southfield because of birmingham great schools!! Wish us luck
I can help if you need an agent 😃
My wife and I love watching Paul’s videos. It’s often how we spend our “us” time in the evenings while our kids are doing their homework. He cracks us up…and we learn a lot about the areas around us. We still think Grosse Pointe is THE place to be, but we like to keep that quiet.
Well, I'm glad I can provide some entertainment for you and your wife during your "us" time. Just remember, if you ever need a break from the kids' homework, I'm here to give you a laugh and teach you a thing or two about the areas around you. And don't worry, your secret about Grosse Pointe is safe with me! ...for now! :)
I had no idea that properties get taxed at a different rate because they are rented out. Thank you for the info!
Its the Homestead tax which means you dont pay the school tax if its your primary residence.
Most places tax the principal residence at a lesser rate.
Look for industrial areas...reasons for taxes being lower for housing...industry pays a lot of the tax base...as in livonia
Income tax, property tax, and then sales tax! And they complain about Europe! At least in Europe they have social benefits, including universal health care and virtually tuition free universities.
And tolls is another way to steal people.
Universal healthcare that covers NOTHING, makes you wait 6 mos. to get a test done and dictates what doctor you get!! NO THANK YOU! Speaking from direct experience of the system
@@angelikakopek does it really cover nothing though?
As long as their security is paid for by the U.S.A. tax payers.
Nothing in life is free ding ding. You're an adult?
A video about Bloomfield Hills and Birmingham would be cool 😊
You read my mind! Next video is about the wealthiest Detroit suburbs 😃
Great info, to bad I had to sit through 3:45 of you preening and strutting for the camera. do me a favor, put in the breakdown of content so I can go get educated without having to put up with the extended preamble.
😂😂 I shortened it up a bit in newer vids. Thanks for the feedback!
seriously!
where do you get some of your footage? especially the aerial views of the cities, and the clips from movies/shows?
Westland has turned into Detroit Lite..... I left in 1985 (joined the military) and NEVER returned, but at that time, EVERYTHING was shinny & new.... The Restaurants, Hotels, Malls, stores.... Everything!!! Visited in 2017.... What a DUMP.... The buildings, stores, everything was FILTHY DIRTY....! It looked "almost" Like the East side of Detroit (Not recent Downtown).... And 8 / 10 people living in Wayne County has a terminal case of TDS!!!!
Westland was never shit.🤷🏽♀️
This is very helpful.
Southfield Township
Southfield with Birmingham schools.
Noted
one eyes bettys is the bomb i love eating there.... can you do a video on macomb county Washington, new Baltimore, romeo, macomb twp, Clinton township chesterfield please. also what about Rochester hills and auburn hills
Clinton twp is my favorite for low taxes. I bought a foreclosure in 2009 for $11k cash out the door and pay around $1700 per year. My last house was 125k in same area and taxes were about the same. Id never buy in any of the cities you mentioned for tax reasons and inflated house prices for lousy old houses. I know people in detroit that have large old houses in crappy area and they pay well over 7k per year and that was 5 years ago.
A lot of those taxes are even higher now
Clinton Township is a Dump
There is a reason taxes are low in Clinton Twp.
Drive around & you'll see.
I live in a home in the city of Detroit. These prices are based off city assessment. A 200,000 house in the city is not taxed as a 200,000 house by the city..... so your numbers a a bit inflated. No one is paying that kind of money in property taxes in the city of Detroit.
If you're a current resident and have been for a while, your taxes are capped because of Proposal-A. Any new residents of any city in Michigan experience "uncapping" and their taxes 🚀 up to the current rate. It's good and bad for Michigan.
Made a video explaining the tax jump here: ruclips.net/video/qrxEe-LVyIY/видео.html
Hi Brother I liked your video But it's is not clear for me what types of Tax this much high? property or city Tax?
It's the same thing. Property taxes are calculated based on the city.
I've lived here in Southfield for a good chunk of my Life. The Public schools weren't so great when I attended-back in the Seventies. They have Not improved. The sports scores are going Up, while the SAT scores are going Down. And, yet-we have the High Property taxes.
We know why the sports teams are doing better and the SAT scores are going down, the same thing is happening in West Bloomfield and other burbs . . . . .
Insurance is so hight in Detroit because of crime. I rather spend the money in suburbs.
How are taxes in Huntington Woods, Berkley and Oak Park?
With Huntington Woods it’s only Berkley Schools, ditto Berkley, but Oak Park is in 3 different school districts - Berkley, Oak Park, and Ferndale.
How are they for those ones?
I definitely need to make a video about those areas. Use this site and put 1/2 the sale price in the blank. treas-secure.state.mi.us/ptestimator/ptestimator.asp
I've lived in all those cities, except Detroit. I've actually lived in more, like Rochester Hills, which was cheaper than Farmington, but much better schools
I'm Westland with Inkster schools? Inkster doesn't have a school district anymore. Now there are areas in Inkster that have Westland schools......
Paul can you please do a video of grosse ile township?
I definitely need to!
Paul is the best! 🥰
You forgot Canton. I moved here 2 years ago and the taxrs are insane.
Canton isn't too bad. It's about the same as Livonia, Farmington Hills and other communities. You'd pay a lot more in cities like Grosse Pointe.
Canton ranked number 7 in the State on another ranking. I pay over 8k a year in property taxes.
I thought all of Royal Oak Township, Oak Park Schools was incorporated into Oak Park proper. Also, I used to work for the City of Ferndale years ago and I felt bad for people who thought they were getting a deal by buying a house on the east side of Woodward, near 8 Mile. (This was just after the housing recession 2007-2008) I'm talking about $20 to $50,000 and the taxes were listed minimal. They got quite the surprise the next year when they learned that there taxes would double or triple what they believe.
Hurts my heart! I always wanted to live in Ferndale.
Shouldn't stop you from trying! The property taxes are high at the moment but the cool thing about Ferndale is that there are lots of good sizes houses
The taxes you're talking about sound cheap compared to N.J. where I live.
And a lot of people here think Michigan is WAY too expensive 🙄🤷♂️
Curious about dearborn. Never mentioned at all in this channel
I will eventually. It's just not an area I help a lot of people in.
You forgot the small town of Center Line in the Middle of Warren.......it is 71 for a homeowner
I live in Southfield and the taxes are bananas
One thing about your video is inaccurate... specifically about Westland but the Inkster school district. Inkster no longer has a school district at all. It was completely dissolved in 2013 or so, and the kids were sent to Taylor, Romulus, Wayne-Westland, and Westwood depending on where they lived in Inkster. So... the Westland residents who were formerly in the Inkster school district aren't anymore, and haven't been since 2013.
Ahhhhhh 🤦♂️ whoops!
@Paul Wolfert if I purchase condo in sterling Hight Michigan for say $240K then how much taxes in term of $ per year I would pay
I live in Westland and I applaud you for pronouncing it appropriately.
And yes, these taxes are for the birds
Hahaha!!! 💯💯
How do people mispronounce it? Seems pretty straightforward.
So how much is the taxes for the Romulus School district in Westland??
How does the city know if you are renting your house out versus if you are living there? Maybe you go away for the winters and have a family member stay in the house & pay you rent during that time. How would the city even know? Or perhaps you live in another state all year round and have someone you trust living there without informing the city. How do they determine?
If you own a home anywhere else, one of them will have to be your "primary residence" - if you own two homes, it's documented. Any other home aside from your primary will be considered a "non primary" and taxed at a higher rate.
I'm an Angeleo looking to get the hell out! Are these millage rates a Michigan thing only? Can you compare them to LA homes?
i wanna buy and rent out!
I wouldnt live in royal oak or ferndale just because of bars and eating places i can drive to restaurants no problem.
Looking to move to Petoskey and info on upper Michigan
Nice choice. Better than Traverse City these days
Can you do a video about downriver ??
Westland kind of surprised me there because some of the neighborhood houses in the inkster area look run down so I don’t get why taxes there are super high.
Westland is getting worse & worse by the year...
City administration robbing the people just like Detroit.
i just came here to see if there is flint, where i live
im currently righting this while watching an ad so i do not know
i wished there to be the list in the comments so i didnt have to watch the video
for the people who are lazy like me, you're welcome
royal oak township
detroit
ferndale
south field
westland
also im surprised flint didnt make it on the list
I'm happy in Milford Michigan 💋
How is Western MI., Ludington, Manistee area? It seems so peaceful there.
Those are awesome areas! I've helped people find agents out there to buy because it's hours away from my "zone"
Thank you, we Love it there. Just wanted your opinion. 😊
Taxes are insane in Ludington. If you are not homesteading plan on a combined tax bill of around $3,000 for a SEV of 50K. They are lower in surrounding townships.
People that can afford high taxes because it keeps the rifle Raf out so they will pay the high taxes.
Westland = Wasteland. You forgot Taylor...😂😂
You should also tell people that Royal Oak Township has no police or fire department!!
😅 was trying to stick with $ stuff 😅
Wow
It is kind of a $ issue as they don’t have money to fund either department! Regardless it’s a bad town, no one should have to live there!
That's rough. I know at one time, and I think some still do, share 911 dispatch. Though response time seems to remain quick from what i've seen.
@@timw5098 It’s not a bad place to live. It was once one of the safest places to live in.
Need help to buy a house in Michigan most important for me school for my kids and good zip
Let's be honest. The suburbs do that to get around Shelley v. Kraemer and the Fair Housing Act of 1968.
The suburbs with high taxes?
I love that intro beat
holy shit get to the point
Nah. It's all about dragging it out for watch time 😄
@@PaulWolfert lol gotta hit that 10 minute watch time for RUclips. . .
I think its good to have high tax rates for property that you are renting out as an investment as there are many people looking for housing. Rent prices have gotten out of hand to where it makes way more sense to ger a mortgage and at least you are building your kwn equity instead of building it for someone else. There really needs to be more rent control and more low income renting options like they do in Vienna.
Do not buy a home in Detroit period! You might as well stand in the road ,shred your money up and throw it away.
Used to live in ferndale and my ex still lives in the house he bought it 20 years ago and ferndale is worth it ..Wish I still lived there..If you want to live in a nice place you have to pay..
I owned a house there 30 years ago, I loved that City. Great City Services!
Which one is the best looking to move from Illinois...I like Oak Park Michigan
Oak Park is pretty awesome - really depends on your budget.
@@PaulWolfert are the taxes high??
@@PaulWolfert property taxes
@@bambam6231973 not as high as some of the other cities.
@@PaulWolfert thank you
What about Midland or Bay City? My wife and I are very curious
Stay away from there unless you plan to ' carry ' 100 % of the time .
I lived in Bay City for about 10 years. It's fine. It's not a wealthy city. Nice for a weekend trip, but boring to live there unless you just like to go to bars all the time. Midland is really boring.
Most of the areas that you are talking about have gone downhill over the years. I would never move to any of them. I grew up in Berkley and have seen the many changes over the years!! Drugs have taken over Southfield. Jewish folks moved out and over to West Bloomfield and the folks from Detroit moved in and brought the drugs and crime to that city. Not a change for the better!
In Berkeley they are knocking down the houses and building 2,000+ square foot unaffordable monstrosities.
What about Ann arbor Michigan?
I'll be covering Ann Arbor soon😀
I love one eyed Betty’s went there 2 days ago
I need some contact info. I'm moving to Detroit. Never been there. HELP!!!
Awesome! paul@movingmi.com
Don't. Detroit is a Dump
westland 😢😩
What about Taylor? Is Taylor cool?
Some people love Taylor.
Sounds like red lining tax style
People always talking bad about neighborhoods that they have never stepped foot in.🤷🏽♀️
I've stepped foot in all of them. Sorta my job 😄
@@PaulWolfert not talking about you Paul.
@@ebross4236 ah!! Ok 😃😃 - you're 100% right...a lot of the comments I get are from people who have probably never visited the cities.
??? Westland has its own taxes lol WTH
Glad I never rented the house I owned in southfield $$ taxs
Fly trap is closed but just got a new owner
Wondering if the new owner will keep the old name and menu 🤔
@@PaulWolfert yes. It's the guy that owns the Betty restaurant. He bought it.
What about the North End of Detroit, MI?
Please get to the areas and reduce the antics in your videos.
Detroit downtown, safer and cleaner than the Detroit neighborhoods. The neighborhoods in Detroit look like a mash up of trash dump and war zone. I know because I've driven through Detroit many many times.
Downtown Detroit is awesome
@@PaulWolfert Downtown is where those in power funnel all the cities tax dollars. They should start considering cleaning up the surrounding area inside Detroit. Make the whole city look nice.
The flytrap unfortunately closed
😭 someone else mentioned that. Hope it reopens or something equally awesome goes in the spot
detriot proprty tax to high,,,, ferndale 9 and woodeard is trendy if your a bible person forget it,,,,, go to northern macomb county what about Romeo a hidden gem ,,,,,
Omg get on with it
Long live the Queen $$$$
Northern Macomb county escape crime and drama,,,,,,,
Nice area. Just too far for a lot of people working in Detroit etc
Does it take almost 4 damn mins to get to the point!!!!!!
😂😂 old video. I've gotten better.
Michigan is horrible with property taxes. I am leaving to a cheaper prop tax state.
Anyone familiar with property taxes in Texas is laughing so loudly in Texan property tax payer watching this.
Yeah, but then you have to live in Texas, so...
nice plug there
And this man is telling my blatant aren't you story if you live in Detroit your property taxes depending on the area is not as high as he make it out you'd have to be living downtown virtually to pay that kind of money it's best to research for yourself. Speaking of her as a resident I've lived in Detroit I've lived in Bloomfield, Royal Oak Troy and Detroit is way cheaper not that is necessarily a better area that's important 🤦🏻♀️🙆🏻♀️👀🤬👎🏼💯🎥🎥🤬🤷🏼♀️
Dont buy in Detroit ' We love you ❤️.
😅 Detroit isn't bad
Metro *Detriot* realtors?
Yea, ..Ferndale has a house for 150,000? Where? It dont matter. I am gay, but my guy and I are not THAT GAY! LOL. Michigan taxes are awful.
This video is pretty old 😅 - prices have jumped quite a bit. Might be time for a refresh.
warren where I grew up a dream,,now a war zone,,,,die in East pointe ,,,,, danger,,,, centerline high proprty taxes,,,,,, roseville soon an east pointe,,, the last safe place st clair shores but move in the safe sweet zone 11 mile and jefferson,,,,,,, oakland county terrible traffic and taxes,,,,,, richmond michigan a jem.........
All of Michigan is expensive one way or a other.
Buuuuut....also more affordable than a lot of other states 🤷♂️
U talk too much I’m not joining
Don't buy anywhere NEAR DETROIT.
There are a lot of great areas in Metro Detroit
@@PaulWolfert 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
You dint save money buying a house anywhere bud. Buying a house for any reason beyond making money is dumb lol
Why are you making up total lies about the city's average home price??? The average home value is well over 80k.
www.bestplaces.net/city/michigan/detroit
@@PaulWolfert That data is completely wrong. lol Just a quick look at the census database would tell you the average income is well above those numbers, and the home price there doesn't even match what you said in the video. As a Michigander, you're embarrassing us, please stop making videos.
This guy is a squirrel
You obviously have shown the top places, money wise, to live. People who live in these areas have the money, taxes are not on their minds. They can easily afford them.
As for buying a $45,000 house in Detroit city, let me tell you all watching, DO NOT DO THIS !
They are small, shitty homes in crime filled areas of Detroit. If you can think of a crime, it's there. And let's not forget the moron Governor that Michigan has right now, this alone will make you mad every day.
Now write a sentence like your not a uneducated Trump voter!
Royal Joke
So pretty much politically Democratic strongholds are hellholes
Now write a sentence like your not a uneducated Trump voter!
Southfield lol!! It used to be nice until the detroit moved In lol