I moved to the Detroit area 8 years ago from Southern California. Took me about a year to assimilate, but so happy I moved. I'd never move back to LA. The media has unfairly portrayed Detroit for so long. There are far worse places to live in the US. I think the future is bright for the metro. Getting out of places like California, Florida, and New York is so hot right now. People turning to places in the rust belt, cheap living, not as politically polarizing. Detroit for me feels like what it was like to live in Southern California 25 years ago. I live in Plymouth tho, so not Detroit proper, still, love it here. I think an important reason that you didn't mention is good employment. Kids go get a top notch education at UofM, and then leave the state for jobs elsewhere. The retention rate is one of the lowest in the country. Sadly there aren't a lot of opportunities. Detroit and Michigan as a whole should be doing more to bring big business to Michigan. They're working now on substantial tax credits to bring more film production here. That's an amazing idea considering how well it worked for Georgia and Atlanta, now almost every TV/movie has it's principal filming there. Michigan needs to do this for every industry. Get them here now, ask questions later :D
Thank you for sharing your positive experience! It's always refreshing to hear from someone who has found happiness in a new place. Plymouth is one of my FAVORITE cities - you picked a great one! I know they're working on retaining more of the grads but it hasn't happened yet.
I’ve lived in Detroit all my life I actually own several houses in the city the city is coming back and I love what they are doing to downtown and the historical area many people have left for the burbs or another state even but people have also started moving back I’m not ready to throw in the towel on my city
Not me. I return to visit. Now I don’t go to Chicago anymore. Detroit is the hot spot now. You forgot to mention Detroit’s crime has went down substantially in the last 5 years according to FBI. Anyhow why does everyone have to bring up all of the negative past and not just highlight what the city is doing well now, moving forward??????
Crime per capita is actually worse than it's ever been. The stats are deceiving because the population is less than half of what it was in the 80's, so there are less people to rob and kill. The percentage of the population who are criminals is higher than ever. Try to buy car insurance with a Detroit address. You have to be close to a millionaire to buy a 6 month policy, because there are so many cars stolen in Detroit. Most people can only afford to pay for a week to week policy, which is the same price as a 6 month policy in every city that isn't Detroit. That also means that a good portion of Detroit residents drive uninsured. They pay for a week of insurance to get their registration, then let it lapse. If you're looking for a good city to live in, find one that hasn't been ran into the ground by Democrats for decades.
@@menonunya2984I get sick and damn tired of seeing the same dam people that were the cause of the decline in the first place(yt people) blame everything on us!
So my husband and I moved here, I came here from LA, he’s from Detroit I work as a travelers nurse. It’s chill, way slower than LA but these hospitals are raggedy
Auto & Homeowners Insurance rates are the reason I left Detroit. Born and raised there and moved to Holt and finally realized that the people of Detroit was getting seriously racked over the coals. My insurance rates dropped 70-80% when I moved to Holt and they are, at least, 50% less now that I’m living in Pontiac. Insurance rates are asinine in Detroit.
i live in wayne county but not IN detroit and my insurance would be 100 less a month if i lived 5 miles down the road in Monroe county.. It's BS that i have to pay higher rates because of Detoilet.
The flooding started in 1958 when the water system was being extended as the suburbs were expanding. We had basement floods for three consecutive years. One of the challenges about living in Detroit at the present is high water bills. Another challenge is the lack of major supermarkets. The suburbs was not REALLY the reason for leaving Detroit, and if you are from there you know why. It was related to White Flight. But moving to the suburbs was giving up a lot of services that the city had to offer that at the time included an efficient bus system as well as sidewalks. You could walk through any area and not have to be in the street or road. You did not have to drive everywhere. In the suburbs cars were a necessity.
I really want to move back to Detroit but if I include car insurance on top of rent it’s cheaper for me to stay in the suburbs. Most jobs in the City don’t pay enough too so driving outside the city is a must for me
Born and raised in Detroit, moved 13yrs ago, I moved because of the culture, lot of the people got the BS attitude, like it's cool to be a slezebag, they loved the D but they not doing anything to make it better, personaly I'm glad I moved, you can be having a good day up there, and some clown will always mess it up trust me most the good people are gone either subbarbs or out of state where I live now I run into people from Detroit all the time
Moved to Michigan in 2012. Started in Royal oak, then bought a house in Berkley. Now I live in Martin Park, bought a house in Boston Edison and in the process of renovation. I have really enjoyed living in Detroit. Gotta say though - City tax and property tax are a major pain! really discouraging. The last year of Detroit life and renovation has been interesting to say the least!
@@PaulWolfert I own home in the city of Detroit and a second home in Fort Lauderdale.My property taxes,car insurance,and cost of living are all cheaper in Detroit Michigan.
I moved back from Florida a couple of years ago and kinda live in between. The rent where I was in Florida is exceedingly high, but I don’t know if it balances out since there aren’t any state taxes.
Bullshit, detroit has the highest property taxes in the state. Not to mention the highest auto insurance in the state and for very good reason. If you work in the city you will pay an extra tax, if you live in the city and work there you will pay an extra income tax. If you have kids, detroit has one of the WORST schools in the nation.
16k people leaving Detroit in 2 years isn't just about 'leaving for the suburbs'.... mass layoffs have caused people to have to look for work elsewhere and want to be closer to their new jobs. Sad but true.
I disagree. I don’t see any moving trucks leaving Detroit in this major and Lash you’re making it seem like I actually disagree 100% and the people that do Detroit they end up coming back because I’ve been meeting a lot of people from out of town. Tell me that.
Auto insurance is the main reason why Detroit needs a very good public transportation system. Ditto for the Metro region in general. For that matter, lots of young people leave MI every year for cities with good public transportation. Good schools have to be up there also.
I am tickled pink. The elephant is still in the room. The historical perspective regarding Detroit has not been addressed, which caused the exodus. These comments are deflective. Tell the truth.
I see people complaining about high car insurance in Detroit. I was born and raised in Detroit, but I moved to Virginia a few years ago. And let me tell you, you have to pay property tax on your vehicle, registration, vehicle inspection, and emissions (emissions, not all counties). My registration in Michigan was 320 dollars a year. In Virginia, my vehicle property tax is 1100 dollars a year. My registration is 83 dollars, the inspection is 22 dollars, and the emissions are 21 dollars. I'd gladly take the high insurance in Michigan/Detroit. 😂😂.
I was born at Mount Carmel Mercy in the mid '50s. At that time the city was at close to peak population, while most other cities in the US had not yet experienced the growth that would follow. So at that time Detroit was a place of central importance and attention. Practically every evening the national news would open with Walter Cronkite speaking of Detroit, the United Auto Workers,...or perhaps "in Saigon today....". In 1960 family moved to what was then considered Bloomfield Township (today, upgraded to the "Hills"). I left the flat city in 1978 and moved to Boston. Truly, a culture shock, and not always a good one. Lots of Victorian...and little else. No vacant lots. Fairly extensive public transit, though traversing relatively short distances. Detroit = basically no transit system to speak of, vast distances to go...anywhere, including to a grocery store. Of course, prior to April, 1956, Detroit boasted ~550 miles of surface streetcar track, involving thirty lines. You could go anywhere in and around the city. Unfortunately, this wasn't profitable for the auto giant$. I would think that lack of public transit would discourage many folks from moving to Detroit. Then again, safety...or lack of it, might really discourage people from even using it if it was available. And to that add high auto insurance rates. In any case, from Boston I moved to my current location in the northern part of Delaware (close to Phili). I've been here for almost twenty-three years. As I'm getting towards the last stretch, I'm entertaining the idea of moving to Detroit, perhaps to the very house in which I spent the first four years of my life. Maybe I could die there, in my old room. We were always west side people and when I arrived (youngest of three), my family, needing more space, had just recently moved to a house directly across from Marygrove College. I always liked the Palmer Park Apartment district. In 2021 Mom and Dad made Woodlawn Cemetery their new, permanent home. Beautiful digs. But more honestly, if I could have the apartment of my dreams, it would probably be the Valson Apartments, on Fourth street, built in 1926. It's located near the New Center (actually, I believe it's "Tech Town"). Wondering what might be the future of this building...and the street it's on? Going by Detroit's demolition record, probably not so good. I was horrified to learn just the other day, that the Elders of the Detroit Symphony Orchestra bought (for $1,750,000! Gee, I thought they were poor), from the Archdiocese of Detroit, the wonderful Sienese style church (curiously, also built in 1926) located directly behind Detroit Orchestra Hall, but with a Parsons Street address. Architect was Donaldson and Meier, same folks who designed the Stott building and the Holy Redeemer church. Destruction of the church, as well as the constant din of other demolitions, is fairly depressing. Detroit's main unique pulling points, like it or not, are it's pre WWII structures and infrastructure. Get rid of that and there's not all that much to recommend it. At that point the older, established, immediate suburbs, with beautiful housing stock, topography, trees, grocery stores, and relative safety, might look attractive. Sorry, never expected to write "War and Peace", just some thoughts...
Woah, your journey from Detroit to Boston to Delaware sounds like a wild ride! It's cool that you're considering moving back to your old stomping grounds. Who knows, maybe you'll find yourself back in your old room and reliving those childhood memories. Best of luck with your future plans!
It's not only people who moved outside the city limits of Detroit. A lot of businesses, large and small, also moved, and for the same reason. The 3% City of Detroit Income Tax. Live and work within the city and you lose 3% of your gross income annually. Live and work in th suburbs, and you don't have to pay that extra tax. Imposition of the income tax is what maimed the Ctiy. There were no benefits to living within the city, nothing to make you happy to pay that extra tax. I think its true that people have come to view "Detroit" as the name of the entire five county area. Detrot has some suburbs which may be the best place to live in the entire USA.
I worked in Detroit for v 40 yrs and what stood out to me was the employees at the companies thievery schemes....unreal. every company eventually closed forever.
Too many of my people in Detroit have a piss poor mindset. I stayed on a block where people stole out of your garbage can and that was my sign. They also antagonize the ones that mind the business and target the ones that wanna do better. The smart ones know it was all designed ever since the 1600s but it’s OUR job to wake up and overcome.
I lived in Detroit until a few years after the 67 RIOT. No, in was not an UPRISING! MOST of the businesses in my neighborhood were destroyed in the riot, and were never rebuilt. My old neighborhood has only about 20% abandoned homes. That's not bad. At just 3 blocks away, it's over 80% in surrounding neighborhoods. The schools in my neighborhood back in the 60s and 70s were bad. Today, your child would learn more just browsing the web than attending a Detroit public school. Among large cities greater than 100k, they have the worst schools in the country were less than 10% of students are reading at grade level. When i say the schools are bad, I mean REALLY BAD. If you don't have bars or an alarm on your home, it will be robbed. If you have a nice car that is not parked in a garage at night, it will be stolen. If you have a child in the city, don't send them to a public school. Because the schools are so bad, they do give kids the choice of attending schools in the suburbs. They just have to figure out how to get there. This has presented a problem for some suburban districts with illiterate kids being sent to their schools. Detroit, nice place to be FROM
How can you be a real estate rep in the metro area when you apparently hate Detroit? I just do not understand! There is NO other city in this country that is working so very hard! They will NEVER win with people like you selling it! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Seems this guy is talking like it’s 1983. People are now moving back and investing in nice fixer upper types of properties and the downtown is booming !
You talked about property taxes, why did you not mention the fact that if you live or work in Detroit you have to pay personal income taxes to Detroit?
Good video. In defense of not mentioning the expensive car insurance, that's teeeeechnically more of a Wayne County thing anyway. My rates in Grosse Pointe are much worse than when I lived in Eastpointe, how does that make any sense. If it were me I'd go by zip codes but nope, apparently to them the county means a lot. As for murder rates, yes it's high in Detroit but only Detroit gets the bad rep, that's the difference. People don't know how bad dozens of places like Birmingham, Baton Rouge, places like Dayton for crying out loud have gotten worse than Detroit. The difference is forty years of bad press. And out of twenty different cities I could name with worse crime rates, Detroit is the only one getting better and on the mend, the cities that have gotten worse than Detroit are still circling the drain. Also, suicides by gun get added to "gun violence" statistics which misleads people even further. Let's put it this way, when people's complaints evolve from "it's full of empty lots and crack houses" into "It's all gentrified, we can't afford to live here anymore" then you know something's happening. That aside, my number one (which you've mentioned in other videos) is they still haven't fixed the schools. Never would I put my children in DPS. And private educations are expensive, which offsets a major reason for considering Detroit proper in the first place. Would love a video involving the processes people go through when juggling the sale of their own home while buying a new one, such as wraparound mortgages, land contracts etc.
Greg: I'm a vcr repairman. Morty: Nothing could be worse.... Greg: Well at least I'm not a real estate agent trying to convince people to buy million dollar properties in Detroit.... Morty: Oh S^&t, you are right. I am so sorry bro. I never meant to equate you to a loser like that.... (Greg and Morty hug, the end)
I do have a question about your content. If you are a local real estate agent in Michigan, (the metro area) why are most of your videos something negative about Detroit? Aren't you suppose to talk up places? Furthermore, other cities have their own name, so why is Detroit brought up when referring to other places? The news does the same thing. Genuine curiosity here. If I didn't know any better, I would think you hate Detroit...not a realtor who works here.
@@PaulWolfert the people in metro Detroit when you move outside of Michigan that’s not the mentality I can promise you from someone who grew up in Detroit and now lives in Seattle. Lack of public transportation overbuilt freeways and sole reliance on a car is what’s holding the region back and will continue to hold the region back. I love my hometown but it’s sad to see the urban development and mentality to be so stuck on cars it’s like a bad drug!!
@@PaulWolfert the people in metro Detroit when you move outside of Michigan that’s not the mentality I can promise you from someone who grew up in Detroit and now lives in Seattle. Lack of public transportation overbuilt freeways and sole reliance on a car is what’s holding the region back and will continue to hold the region back. I love my hometown but it’s sad to see the urban development and mentality to be so stuck on cars it’s like a bad drug!!
Videos like this should set off everyone's bullshit meter. Detroit is well on its way back. Abandoned homes like the ones shown in the video are being torn down at an amazing rate and land is being cleared for new homes and factories. Many new homes have been built, crime is down and people are moving into Detroit. Property values are increasing every year. Detroit is on its way back.
Ok. I was in Detroit stranded. Im not a scaredy cat, but I WAS PETRIFIED . I thought losing my life there was a real possibility. Otherwise, it's really nice place to live.😁
thanks for sharing the statistics, however, it's better to focus on the rate of homocides per 100k pop. than the total number, I think the rate has been going higher especially after Detroit's bankruptcy. It is more dangerous today.
as someone actually born and raised in detroit it is literally night and day compared to how dangerous to used to be. we have lots more to do but just mindlessly assuming detroit always gets worse isn’t correct and only hurts our efforts
CAR INSURANCE TOO HIGH. PROPERTY INSURANCE TOO HIGH. YOU HAVE TO PAY PERSONAL TAX FROM YOUR EARNING. ZERO CITY SERVICES WATER BILL OUTRAGES HORRIBLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS EXTREMELY POOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION NO MAJOR GROCERY STORES IN THE CITY ALONG WITH NO SHOPPING IN THE CITY. THE CITY AS A WHOLE LOOKS LIKE A WAR ZONE NOT GOOD FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH. NOT A GOOD PLACE TO RAISE KIDS OR BE A SENIOR CITIZEN IN. IF YOUR A HIGH EARNERS YOUR INCOME WILL BE TAXED FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING HERE. DONT MOVE HERE YOU WILL BE SORRY.
When was the last time you visited the city? Meijers has TWO stores on the west side. And Livernois has a *whole avenue* dedicated to shopping. Not to mention tons of shopping plazas all around the city. And if you like high-end purchases a bunch of stores downtown on Woodward. Now I admit they could work on reducing personal income tax. But 3% is actually not that bad compared to what my friends who live in London, NYC and LA pay. And the water bills just got increased when the city expanded from just being a locally controlled DWSD to a Great Lakes (Regional) water department. People in the suburbs have *been* paying high water bills as they should bc the water has to travel from the treatment plants in DETROIT out to them. The regional water system kind of equalized the costs to everyone although Detroit’s residents make considerably less money than it’s surrounding neighboring communities’ households. Ijs…
I was lucky enough to escape in 1981 and I can tell you,you missed the #1,2,3 reasons, they are January, February, March, those 3 months are horrible if you live in or around Detroit, there is really only a short time during any year when the weather there isn’t horrible. I75 south or I94 west are the 2 best things in Detroit…
You can look up murders in literally every major city in America right? Not saying Detroit is perfect but it’s amazing how people blow things out of proportion when it comes to Detroit
Don't worry too much! Detroit has its challenges, but it also has its charm. Just stay street smart, explore the city, and you'll find your groove in no time.
People coninue to leave Detroit because of a cascading lintany of issues that have made it harder and harder to live there. These include but are not exclusive to school desegregation and equal housing laws in the 50s that prevented CC&Rs that prevented blacks from moving into white neighborhoods and attending white schools. White flight - plain and simple. The 60s riots just accelerated that. Add to that the BigThree moving auto plants out of the city drew a lot if jobs to the suburbs. Now with all those tax payers (residential and corporate) leaving drives down home prices and dries up revenue for the city. Services suffer, schools suffer, taxes increase on the shrinking base and the poor increasing get left behind and crime escalates. Its taken 60+ years for this to turn the city into what it is today. So yeah, no end in sight for the population decline.
I never understand WHY people make videos and tell the world how horrible Detroit is when the story should be how Detroit has gotten 1000% better in 10 years. Funny your sellin the evils of the city, you must be workin the subs
I never understand why people comment on videos without watching ... what you said is exactly what I say in the video. It's gotten 1000% better. The "evils of the city"? no.
I was born in Detroit and raised in Hamtramck until I was 23 but I live in the suburbs now, downtown is getting better but the neighborhoods are still shit. Nobody wants to send their kids to Detroit public schools. Until you fix the neighborhoods and schools, the city will never have a true revitalization outside the downtown area. Detroit has lost over 17k people over the last two years. It's just not a desirable city to live in and that's the harsh truth. I'll always have love for Detroit because I grew up here but we're all lying if we keep avoiding the obvious about the city of Detroit.
Been here for over 50 years. Detroit is truly a hole. Have never warmed up to it. People try to be loud and talk it up on occasion but to no avail, it's a joke and always will be. I wish it was different but the truth is in driving with and witnessing with your own eyes. Perhaps I should choose a state that is sane like Indiana and run by a republican governor instead of that wretched gretchen. I do not believe the state will ever come back and be a magnet for move-ins. The statistics keep showing again and again on Google that people are fleeing Michigan..
I moved to the Detroit area 8 years ago from Southern California. Took me about a year to assimilate, but so happy I moved. I'd never move back to LA. The media has unfairly portrayed Detroit for so long. There are far worse places to live in the US. I think the future is bright for the metro. Getting out of places like California, Florida, and New York is so hot right now. People turning to places in the rust belt, cheap living, not as politically polarizing. Detroit for me feels like what it was like to live in Southern California 25 years ago. I live in Plymouth tho, so not Detroit proper, still, love it here.
I think an important reason that you didn't mention is good employment. Kids go get a top notch education at UofM, and then leave the state for jobs elsewhere. The retention rate is one of the lowest in the country. Sadly there aren't a lot of opportunities. Detroit and Michigan as a whole should be doing more to bring big business to Michigan. They're working now on substantial tax credits to bring more film production here. That's an amazing idea considering how well it worked for Georgia and Atlanta, now almost every TV/movie has it's principal filming there. Michigan needs to do this for every industry. Get them here now, ask questions later :D
Thank you for sharing your positive experience! It's always refreshing to hear from someone who has found happiness in a new place. Plymouth is one of my FAVORITE cities - you picked a great one! I know they're working on retaining more of the grads but it hasn't happened yet.
💯
I’ve lived in Detroit all my life I actually own several houses in the city the city is coming back and I love what they are doing to downtown and the historical area many people have left for the burbs or another state even but people have also started moving back I’m not ready to throw in the towel on my city
Not me. I return to visit. Now I don’t go to Chicago anymore. Detroit is the hot spot now. You forgot to mention Detroit’s crime has went down substantially in the last 5 years according to FBI. Anyhow why does everyone have to bring up all of the negative past and not just highlight what the city is doing well now, moving forward??????
What areas do u suggest to live? I want to move there soon.
Crime per capita is actually worse than it's ever been. The stats are deceiving because the population is less than half of what it was in the 80's, so there are less people to rob and kill. The percentage of the population who are criminals is higher than ever. Try to buy car insurance with a Detroit address. You have to be close to a millionaire to buy a 6 month policy, because there are so many cars stolen in Detroit. Most people can only afford to pay for a week to week policy, which is the same price as a 6 month policy in every city that isn't Detroit. That also means that a good portion of Detroit residents drive uninsured. They pay for a week of insurance to get their registration, then let it lapse.
If you're looking for a good city to live in, find one that hasn't been ran into the ground by Democrats for decades.
Stop lying@@menonunya2984
@@menonunya2984I get sick and damn tired of seeing the same dam people that were the cause of the decline in the first place(yt people) blame everything on us!
@patrickm8894
1.) Midtown
2.) Corktown
3.) Sherwood Forest
4.)Rosedale Park
5.) North Rosedale Park
6.) Indian Village
You’re welcome….
So my husband and I moved here, I came here from LA, he’s from Detroit I work as a travelers nurse. It’s chill, way slower than LA but these hospitals are raggedy
Auto & Homeowners Insurance rates are the reason I left Detroit. Born and raised there and moved to Holt and finally realized that the people of Detroit was getting seriously racked over the coals. My insurance rates dropped 70-80% when I moved to Holt and they are, at least, 50% less now that I’m living in Pontiac. Insurance rates are asinine in Detroit.
Detroit is not the only cold weather city in the winter. Chicago, Nyc, Philly etc. Buy a Coat
Tell them if you live near Detroit your insurance will cost you more on a car .Unless you in the suburbs sad but true
I mention that in other videos.
i live in wayne county but not IN detroit and my insurance would be 100 less a month if i lived 5 miles down the road in Monroe county.. It's BS that i have to pay higher rates because of Detoilet.
The flooding started in 1958 when the water system was being extended as the suburbs were expanding. We had basement floods for three consecutive years. One of the challenges about living in Detroit at the present is high water bills. Another challenge is the lack of major supermarkets. The suburbs was not REALLY the reason for leaving Detroit, and if you are from there you know why. It was related to White Flight. But moving to the suburbs was giving up a lot of services that the city had to offer that at the time included an efficient bus system as well as sidewalks. You could walk through any area and not have to be in the street or road. You did not have to drive everywhere. In the suburbs cars were a necessity.
I really want to move back to Detroit but if I include car insurance on top of rent it’s cheaper for me to stay in the suburbs. Most jobs in the City don’t pay enough too so driving outside the city is a must for me
Born and raised in Detroit, moved 13yrs ago, I moved because of the culture, lot of the people got the BS attitude, like it's cool to be a slezebag, they loved the D but they not doing anything to make it better, personaly I'm glad I moved, you can be having a good day up there, and some clown will always mess it up trust me most the good people are gone either subbarbs or out of state where I live now I run into people from Detroit all the time
Tell us you’re from the East Side without telling us you’re from the East Side… 🤣
What city you from
@@chingosote what city I'm from? Stop it, you can't read
Moved to Michigan in 2012. Started in Royal oak, then bought a house in Berkley. Now I live in Martin Park, bought a house in Boston Edison and in the process of renovation. I have really enjoyed living in Detroit. Gotta say though - City tax and property tax are a major pain! really discouraging. The last year of Detroit life and renovation has been interesting to say the least!
Awesome! Taxes are tough but we need more people doing what you are to make it better.
I grew up in Boston Historical area. Boston & 12th
I just moved back home to Detroit from Florida.And Detroit cost of living compared to Florida is way cheaper.
Did you move to the city of Detroit or the suburbs?
@@PaulWolfert I own home in the city of Detroit and a second home in Fort Lauderdale.My property taxes,car insurance,and cost of living are all cheaper in Detroit Michigan.
I moved back from Florida a couple of years ago and kinda live in between. The rent where I was in Florida is exceedingly high, but I don’t know if it balances out since there aren’t any state taxes.
Bullshit, detroit has the highest property taxes in the state.
Not to mention the highest auto insurance in the state and for very good reason.
If you work in the city you will pay an extra tax, if you live in the city and work there you will pay an extra income tax. If you have kids, detroit has one of the WORST schools in the nation.
! @bluemax2072
LMAO, tell us another one!
Looking to rent retail space is it a good idea to look there? corktown area
Corktown is AWESOME! Nice choice 😃
Yes, Corktown, Midtown and downtown will probably be your go to's. Even New Center area, maybe
16k people leaving Detroit in 2 years isn't just about 'leaving for the suburbs'.... mass layoffs have caused people to have to look for work elsewhere and want to be closer to their new jobs. Sad but true.
I disagree. I don’t see any moving trucks leaving Detroit in this major and Lash you’re making it seem like I actually disagree 100% and the people that do Detroit they end up coming back because I’ve been meeting a lot of people from out of town. Tell me that.
Auto insurance is the main reason why Detroit needs a very good public transportation system. Ditto for the Metro region in general. For that matter, lots of young people leave MI every year for cities with good public transportation. Good schools have to be up there also.
I am tickled pink. The elephant is still in the room. The historical perspective regarding Detroit has not been addressed, which caused the exodus. These comments are deflective. Tell the truth.
MI has the highest car insurance
Sure does! I talk about that a lot in other videos.
I see people complaining about high car insurance in Detroit. I was born and raised in Detroit, but I moved to Virginia a few years ago. And let me tell you, you have to pay property tax on your vehicle, registration, vehicle inspection, and emissions (emissions, not all counties). My registration in Michigan was 320 dollars a year. In Virginia, my vehicle property tax is 1100 dollars a year. My registration is 83 dollars, the inspection is 22 dollars, and the emissions are 21 dollars. I'd gladly take the high insurance in Michigan/Detroit. 😂😂.
I was born at Mount Carmel Mercy in the mid '50s. At that time the city was at close to peak population, while most other cities in the US had not yet experienced the growth that would follow. So at that time Detroit was a place of central importance and attention. Practically every evening the national news would open with Walter Cronkite speaking of Detroit, the United Auto Workers,...or perhaps "in Saigon today....". In 1960 family moved to what was then considered Bloomfield Township (today, upgraded to the "Hills").
I left the flat city in 1978 and moved to Boston. Truly, a culture shock, and not always a good one. Lots of Victorian...and little else. No vacant lots. Fairly extensive public transit, though traversing relatively short distances. Detroit = basically no transit system to speak of, vast distances to go...anywhere, including to a grocery store. Of course, prior to April, 1956, Detroit boasted ~550 miles of surface streetcar track, involving thirty lines. You could go anywhere in and around the city. Unfortunately, this wasn't profitable for the auto giant$. I would think that lack of public transit would discourage many folks from moving to Detroit. Then again, safety...or lack of it, might really discourage people from even using it if it was available. And to that add high auto insurance rates.
In any case, from Boston I moved to my current location in the northern part of Delaware (close to Phili). I've been here for almost twenty-three years. As I'm getting towards the last stretch, I'm entertaining the idea of moving to Detroit, perhaps to the very house in which I spent the first four years of my life. Maybe I could die there, in my old room. We were always west side people and when I arrived (youngest of three), my family, needing more space, had just recently moved to a house directly across from Marygrove College. I always liked the Palmer Park Apartment district. In 2021 Mom and Dad made Woodlawn Cemetery their new, permanent home. Beautiful digs.
But more honestly, if I could have the apartment of my dreams, it would probably be the Valson Apartments, on Fourth street, built in 1926. It's located near the New Center (actually, I believe it's "Tech Town"). Wondering what might be the future of this building...and the street it's on? Going by Detroit's demolition record, probably not so good. I was horrified to learn just the other day, that the Elders of the Detroit Symphony Orchestra bought (for $1,750,000! Gee, I thought they were poor), from the Archdiocese of Detroit, the wonderful Sienese style church (curiously, also built in 1926) located directly behind Detroit Orchestra Hall, but with a Parsons Street address. Architect was Donaldson and Meier, same folks who designed the Stott building and the Holy Redeemer church.
Destruction of the church, as well as the constant din of other demolitions, is fairly depressing. Detroit's main unique pulling points, like it or not, are it's pre WWII structures and infrastructure. Get rid of that and there's not all that much to recommend it. At that point the older, established, immediate suburbs, with beautiful housing stock, topography, trees, grocery stores, and relative safety, might look attractive. Sorry, never expected to write "War and Peace", just some thoughts...
Woah, your journey from Detroit to Boston to Delaware sounds like a wild ride! It's cool that you're considering moving back to your old stomping grounds. Who knows, maybe you'll find yourself back in your old room and reliving those childhood memories. Best of luck with your future plans!
Over reliance on cars and freeways killed Detroit!
It's not only people who moved outside the city limits of Detroit. A lot of businesses, large and small, also moved, and for the same reason. The 3% City of Detroit Income Tax. Live and work within the city and you lose 3% of your gross income annually. Live and work in th suburbs, and you don't have to pay that extra tax. Imposition of the income tax is what maimed the Ctiy. There were no benefits to living within the city, nothing to make you happy to pay that extra tax.
I think its true that people have come to view "Detroit" as the name of the entire five county area. Detrot has some suburbs which may be the best place to live in the entire USA.
I worked in Detroit for v 40 yrs and what stood out to me was the employees at the companies thievery schemes....unreal. every company eventually closed forever.
Corp. Management thuggery too.
Too many of my people in Detroit have a piss poor mindset. I stayed on a block where people stole out of your garbage can and that was my sign. They also antagonize the ones that mind the business and target the ones that wanna do better. The smart ones know it was all designed ever since the 1600s but it’s OUR job to wake up and overcome.
I lived in Detroit until a few years after the 67 RIOT. No, in was not an UPRISING!
MOST of the businesses in my neighborhood were destroyed in the riot, and were never rebuilt. My old neighborhood has only about 20% abandoned homes. That's not bad. At just 3 blocks away, it's over 80% in surrounding neighborhoods.
The schools in my neighborhood back in the 60s and 70s were bad. Today, your child would learn more just browsing the web than attending a Detroit public school. Among large cities greater than 100k, they have the worst schools in the country were less than 10% of students are reading at grade level. When i say the schools are bad, I mean REALLY BAD.
If you don't have bars or an alarm on your home, it will be robbed. If you have a nice car that is not parked in a garage at night, it will be stolen.
If you have a child in the city, don't send them to a public school. Because the schools are so bad, they do give kids the choice of attending schools in the suburbs. They just have to figure out how to get there. This has presented a problem for some suburban districts with illiterate kids being sent to their schools.
Detroit, nice place to be FROM
7:25 yup. Left Detroit in 2010. I love Birmingham 😂
I hate I got stuck here in Detroit. I can not wait to save up for a car and get the hell out and to never return.
How can you be a real estate rep in the metro area when you apparently hate Detroit? I just do not understand! There is NO other city in this country that is working so very hard! They will NEVER win with people like you selling it! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I love Detroit - did you watch the whole video? It's an awesome city.
Seems this guy is talking like it’s 1983. People are now moving back and investing in nice fixer upper types of properties and the downtown is booming !
Did you not watch the whole video? 😂
You didn't mention the schools. They have to be a big reason.
You talked about property taxes, why did you not mention the fact that if you live or work in Detroit you have to pay personal income taxes to Detroit?
Well things needs to change, of what you mention in the video. Hopefully Detroit will fix those issues!
He can't sell it while he's tearing it down! Like it or not, Detroit is the hub around here. He sells in the metro area????????
Good video. In defense of not mentioning the expensive car insurance, that's teeeeechnically more of a Wayne County thing anyway. My rates in Grosse Pointe are much worse than when I lived in Eastpointe, how does that make any sense. If it were me I'd go by zip codes but nope, apparently to them the county means a lot. As for murder rates, yes it's high in Detroit but only Detroit gets the bad rep, that's the difference. People don't know how bad dozens of places like Birmingham, Baton Rouge, places like Dayton for crying out loud have gotten worse than Detroit. The difference is forty years of bad press. And out of twenty different cities I could name with worse crime rates, Detroit is the only one getting better and on the mend, the cities that have gotten worse than Detroit are still circling the drain. Also, suicides by gun get added to "gun violence" statistics which misleads people even further.
Let's put it this way, when people's complaints evolve from "it's full of empty lots and crack houses" into "It's all gentrified, we can't afford to live here anymore" then you know something's happening. That aside, my number one (which you've mentioned in other videos) is they still haven't fixed the schools. Never would I put my children in DPS. And private educations are expensive, which offsets a major reason for considering Detroit proper in the first place.
Would love a video involving the processes people go through when juggling the sale of their own home while buying a new one, such as wraparound mortgages, land contracts etc.
I agree with you 100% - I've made videos about the home sale/purchase process and no one watches them 🤷♂️
Detroit is twice the size in area as Boston and only 680,000. Alot of poor people. Not a whole lot of tax money coming in to take care of things
I love your videos keep them coming please!!!!
Grew up there, and the majority of Detroit is unsafe. Downtown and certain areas are ok. Alot is a waste land.
It's flooding because people keep stealing the parts from the pumping station 😂 which is why the pumps "fail"
Greg: I'm a vcr repairman. Morty: Nothing could be worse.... Greg: Well at least I'm not a real estate agent trying to convince people to buy million dollar properties in Detroit.... Morty: Oh S^&t, you are right. I am so sorry bro. I never meant to equate you to a loser like that.... (Greg and Morty hug, the end)
We're the same age, I'm from the West side though, great vid, yes the city has come a long way.
I do have a question about your content. If you are a local real estate agent in Michigan, (the metro area) why are most of your videos something negative about Detroit? Aren't you suppose to talk up places? Furthermore, other cities have their own name, so why is Detroit brought up when referring to other places? The news does the same thing. Genuine curiosity here. If I didn't know any better, I would think you hate Detroit...not a realtor who works here.
Looks like I will hit up auctions and buy sht ton houses in detroit. One a month the next decade. Thanks Detroit
Just be prepared to pay the taxes
Nobody wants to move to the suburbs and be dependent upon a car!
Most people do. Personally, I'd much rather take my own car anywhere.
@@PaulWolfert the people in metro Detroit when you move outside of Michigan that’s not the mentality I can promise you from someone who grew up in Detroit and now lives in Seattle. Lack of public transportation overbuilt freeways and sole reliance on a car is what’s holding the region back and will continue to hold the region back. I love my hometown but it’s sad to see the urban development and mentality to be so stuck on cars it’s like a bad drug!!
@@PaulWolfert the people in metro Detroit when you move outside of Michigan that’s not the mentality I can promise you from someone who grew up in Detroit and now lives in Seattle. Lack of public transportation overbuilt freeways and sole reliance on a car is what’s holding the region back and will continue to hold the region back. I love my hometown but it’s sad to see the urban development and mentality to be so stuck on cars it’s like a bad drug!!
@@PaulWolfert FYI there are plenty of metro areas with great suburbs and a great city you probably need to travel more to experience this.
Videos like this should set off everyone's bullshit meter. Detroit is well on its way back. Abandoned homes like the ones shown in the video are being torn down at an amazing rate and land is being cleared for new homes and factories. Many new homes have been built, crime is down and people are moving into Detroit. Property values are increasing every year. Detroit is on its way back.
Did you watch the whole video?
Alot of crime doesn't get reported.
I believe that
This video is brought to you by the letter N.
Ok. I was in Detroit stranded. Im not a scaredy cat, but I WAS PETRIFIED . I thought losing my life there was a real possibility. Otherwise, it's really nice place to live.😁
thanks for sharing the statistics, however, it's better to focus on the rate of homocides per 100k pop. than the total number, I think the rate has been going higher especially after Detroit's bankruptcy. It is more dangerous today.
Good point!
as someone actually born and raised in detroit it is literally night and day compared to how dangerous to used to be. we have lots more to do but just mindlessly assuming detroit always gets worse isn’t correct and only hurts our efforts
@robertw0136 thanks for that!
Not true. At all.
I do everything I can stay away from Detroit. Detroit ask for it.
Totally get it. Detroit isn't for everyone. It's all about personal preferences and experiences.
That's fine we won't miss you. Life long Detroit citizen
Lol intros a leaving Detroit video same year the population grew for the first time in decades
I'm from the mayor Yung days 0f the D! Detroit Was co0l Back den! i came back to visit My 0ld Block its completely Deserted.
nevermind, you lost me at flooding, espeically with high property taxes if its not updating these pips
What about the schools…
CAR INSURANCE TOO HIGH. PROPERTY INSURANCE TOO HIGH. YOU HAVE TO PAY PERSONAL TAX FROM YOUR EARNING. ZERO CITY SERVICES WATER BILL OUTRAGES HORRIBLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS EXTREMELY POOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION NO MAJOR GROCERY STORES IN THE CITY ALONG WITH NO SHOPPING IN THE CITY. THE CITY AS A WHOLE LOOKS LIKE A WAR ZONE NOT GOOD FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH. NOT A GOOD PLACE TO RAISE KIDS OR BE A SENIOR CITIZEN IN. IF YOUR A HIGH EARNERS YOUR INCOME WILL BE TAXED FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING HERE. DONT MOVE HERE YOU WILL BE SORRY.
Taxes are definitely high but lower than some other states.
😢😢
When was the last time you visited the city? Meijers has TWO stores on the west side. And Livernois has a *whole avenue* dedicated to shopping. Not to mention tons of shopping plazas all around the city. And if you like high-end purchases a bunch of stores downtown on Woodward.
Now I admit they could work on reducing personal income tax. But 3% is actually not that bad compared to what my friends who live in London, NYC and LA pay.
And the water bills just got increased when the city expanded from just being a locally controlled DWSD to a Great Lakes (Regional) water department. People in the suburbs have *been* paying high water bills as they should bc the water has to travel from the treatment plants in DETROIT out to them. The regional water system kind of equalized the costs to everyone although Detroit’s residents make considerably less money than it’s surrounding neighboring communities’ households. Ijs…
What’s the most dangerous city in Michigan if not Detroit?
@user-qn6tf6ee1q Thanks!
Muskegon Heights, and Benton Harbor just Google it
I was lucky enough to escape in 1981 and I can tell you,you missed the #1,2,3 reasons, they are January, February, March, those 3 months are horrible if you live in or around Detroit, there is really only a short time during any year when the weather there isn’t horrible. I75 south or I94 west are the 2 best things in Detroit…
It's not too bad now. It was just sunny and in the 60's last week (and then we had a blizzard yesterday)
😂
Still waiting on the reply
Reply to what?
Det union carpenter. Laid off, along with many others. Lot of projects are scrapping by. Taxed 40%. Roads still need more work. Fun
That sucks - the roads have a LONG way to go
@@PaulWolfert is what it is since NAFTA brother. No doubt about the roads, greatful they're better, and making progress.
I enjoy your videos I understand some people get offended. But the truth is the truth. You spoke accurately without being biased.
Leggo
Reverse psychology...Rust belt weather 👍
2 friends murdered in Detroit I would not move there
You can look up murders in literally every major city in America right? Not saying Detroit is perfect but it’s amazing how people blow things out of proportion when it comes to Detroit
Should I be scared to move to Detroit??
Don't worry too much! Detroit has its challenges, but it also has its charm. Just stay street smart, explore the city, and you'll find your groove in no time.
@@PaulWolfert I am
Gonna reach out to U. I am looking to move end of summer.
@@patrickm8894 www.movingmi.com is the best way to get me
@@patrickm8894 Yes 😂
Guns maybe?
People coninue to leave Detroit because of a cascading lintany of issues that have made it harder and harder to live there. These include but are not exclusive to school desegregation and equal housing laws in the 50s that prevented CC&Rs that prevented blacks from moving into white neighborhoods and attending white schools. White flight - plain and simple. The 60s riots just accelerated that. Add to that the BigThree moving auto plants out of the city drew a lot if jobs to the suburbs. Now with all those tax payers (residential and corporate) leaving drives down home prices and dries up revenue for the city. Services suffer, schools suffer, taxes increase on the shrinking base and the poor increasing get left behind and crime escalates. Its taken 60+ years for this to turn the city into what it is today. So yeah, no end in sight for the population decline.
White Flight is definitely one way of saying too many other races 😂😅😂 Not enough Whites = garbage city? Hmm wonder why!! 😂😂😂
No good jobs still an expensive place 😢
know you dont
When the haters have notifications turned on
move to taylor
I never understand WHY people make videos and tell the world how horrible Detroit is when the story should be how Detroit has gotten 1000% better in 10 years. Funny your sellin the evils of the city, you must be workin the subs
I never understand why people comment on videos without watching ... what you said is exactly what I say in the video. It's gotten 1000% better. The "evils of the city"? no.
I was born in Detroit and raised in Hamtramck until I was 23 but I live in the suburbs now, downtown is getting better but the neighborhoods are still shit. Nobody wants to send their kids to Detroit public schools. Until you fix the neighborhoods and schools, the city will never have a true revitalization outside the downtown area. Detroit has lost over 17k people over the last two years. It's just not a desirable city to live in and that's the harsh truth. I'll always have love for Detroit because I grew up here but we're all lying if we keep avoiding the obvious about the city of Detroit.
The worst single thing about Detroit is Detroiters.
Been here for over 50 years. Detroit is truly a hole. Have never warmed up to it. People try to be loud and talk it up on occasion but to no avail, it's a joke and always will be. I wish it was different but the truth is in driving with and witnessing with your own eyes.
Perhaps I should choose a state that is sane like Indiana and run by a republican governor instead of that wretched gretchen. I do not believe the state will ever come back and be a magnet for move-ins. The statistics keep showing again and again on Google that people are fleeing Michigan..
No one’s keeping you here.. bye.
Why spend the majority of your entire life in a place you despise, now that's insane life is way too short for that..
The city is 95% black. Need I say more about the living conditions .
Shame on you, the #1 reason is the same for Detroit, Pontiac, Flint, and Saginaw. They are Democratic Black communities. Stop avoiding the real reason
it's still a slum
Detroit, where the sales pitch is, "It could be worse, maybe." Only top 5 consistently most dangerous City! Much Wow! 👌 👏