As a Liverpool fan I have to say thank you Mark. This isn't just about Liverpool this is bigger and it could be another team next week. They need to sort this mess out.
I was waiting for a Scouse to come out with the "if they can do this to us, they can do it to you" Guess what, they have already been doing it to us for decades but we didn't get an emergency meeting at the UN or COBRA special measures.
@@mikezappabecause other clubs didnt take it this far, they coukd have but chose not to. That's exactly WHY its gotten this bad, because no one ever holds the PGMOL to account.
It's the "Can't do anything, can't do anything" that gets me. Yes, you can. Give the bloody goal and take the flak for going against the rules because it was the right thing to do. Rules are there to guide, but logic has to take precedence over rules. They should never get to ref the PL ever again, honestly.
@@SanxBile Except it's exactly how rules work, there are always exceptions. When you make a mistake of this magnitude in the best league in the world, with potentially 100s of millions of pounds at stake, you fix it even though the official rules say you can't. Literally no one would complain about the rule being "broken", because it's just common sense to correct the mistake.
@@northpaul707yeah do the right thing lose your job and you can't provide for your family but at least you did the right thing according to football fans 😂
@@richierichie1332not really surprising tbh. He's always been near universally considered the best referee in the PL. Not because he's exceptional, more than he's the best out of an awful bunch
Thanks for standing in the breach where others have back-tracked Mark. You've gained a lot of Liverpool supporters respect with how you've voiced your anger over this debacle. I'm sure i'm not the only LFC fan who appreciates you mate. Top man!!
@@fivestarman5130 Its the point though, its probably someone who has been trained in technology and how it is used. Not a ref thats been put in a position he shouldn't be.
System that defaults to “check complete” instead of saying the decision is horrible. If they just said “VAR DECISION ONSIDE” or “VAR DECISION PENALTY” Instead of “check complete”, the problem goes away…
The banner read “disallowed goal” and check for offside. The commentators and everyone knew that the goal had been disallowed before the check. Those in VAR knew what happened to that point. VAR and AVAR played dumb, were intentionally vague up until the point of refusing to correct the decision. The replay operator seemed entirely baffled and had to repeat himself verbatim multiple times, as though VAR’s eyes and ears had stopped working whilst everyone else could understand what was happening; that is absolutely not normal and seemed very intentional.
As a Liverpool fan.. Rivalries aside Mark. THANKYOU !! You're a legit proper football fan 👏 Regardless of what team you support, we should all get behind this 💯
I watch rugby. I watch cricket. The sheer difference in protocol and organization for a off-field review in those sports vs football is ABSOLUTELY staggering. No talking over each other, working together to get the right decision. It's ridiculous.
this is the same company for all sports mentioned. it’s the crap officials feeling sorry for themselves that their jobs aren’t as important anymore not allowing tech to be implemented as fully as it needs to be to be successful
If they had told the teams what happened, they most likely would have agreed to just let Liverpool score. It has been done multiple times in the past when a team scored during a play in which they were supposed to return the ball.
It should be like a flight check in a cockpit. Original decision: offside Do the lines VAR - Player position onside VAR Assistant - Onside Clear and obvious? Yes Player onside, award goal Job done Mark is spot on. Too many people wanting to say their own thing. Having a structured formula would help everyone.
The real problem for me after hearing that is, if that's the kind of chaos that goes on behind the scenes, how can you trust these people with 'any' decision? You'd imagine a technology driven process to be cold, almost mechanical, very rational, and here you have a bunch of people talking over each other, rushing things over, and appearing in complete panic over the fact that they have to go over through a simple decision. If there ever was evidence that VAR is making things worse, this is it!!!
VAR hasn't made anything worse, still more right calls than wrong. The issue is with idiotic refs that don't know how to use technology. There should be processes in place to confirm a call being made, they should repeat out the full decision and ensure it's correctly understood before making it final.
the people they put in var have zero training being a ref on pitch and a video ref are two different skill sets. they should have took retired or nearing retired officials to train as var officials
VAR is great. It's the protocols and the incompetent people that are bad. Getting rid of VAR would be an even bigger mistake. Protocols need to be changed and we need to start hiring the world's best referees
Your coverage of this situation has been nothing other than professional, putting rivalries and all aside for the greater good of the sport we all love !
Those officials for what ever reason both on and off the pitch. Had the full intention that the result of that game was the result of the game. Liverpool where never meant to win that game and they made it happen.
Also look at the clip of Simon Hooper during the Spurs throw in. He could clearly HEAR the VAR room. It's a complete lie that he wasn't aware of what was going on.
As a Liverpool supporter, I've accepted that there probably won't be any changes to the game/result/loss points/etc. But as a football supporter, I'm just glad this is being pursued for the sake of future matches that can be affected
As a Liverpool fan I do feel a bit calmer, even though the rules are ridiculous and they feel they couldn't change it. They did notice it, the rules are just bad. This should spark a change, before the next game is kicked off. But hearing them effing and jeffing actually realising the mistake does help. Because in my mind I was expecting some sort of bias nonsense.
It's still not good enough, they're still complete morons who can't think critically and get buried under protocol and bureaucracy. To hell with it. Just shout into the refs ear: "STOP THE GAME IMMEDIATELY. THAT WAS A GOAL." Sure they get a slap on the wrist for breaking the rules, but who cares, it's a stupid rule anyway. And can you imagine the credit they'd be getting for preserving the integrity of the game? Instead all 4 of those fools decided to stay silent and in the process ruined their reputations.
Im a spurs fan but i was confused about it, but they followed the rules properly, they just thought they were making a different decision. I also want to ask if the reaction would be this severe if it was spurs who were robbed of a goal instead. I dont think it would, i think the general reaction would be that its 'typical spurs'. So while i do feel sympathy, i do feel it is a sort of justice as liverpool have benefited more from var mistakes than any other team since the introduction of var. The problem is that var is being operated with pre var rules. That is why they cant go back after a decision is made. Because pre var rules say that officials cant go back and change decision after. The rules should have been adjusted to allow more chance to go back and change incorrect decisions.
@@flakygaming2647 How can you say they followed the rules properly if they didn't even know what the on field decision was? And I think you're wrong to suggest that the reaction from the masses would have been any different were this to happen to Spurs. This isn't an issue of tribalism; this cuts deeply into the integrity of the process we as fans are told to trust, and everyone can feel it equally. Everyone not peddling an agenda thinks, "This could happen to my team next," and they will fight against it. We can't let tribalism stop us from holding the PGMOL to a professional standard.
I work a high level job. I conduct evidence based economic research for a government department. If I make a statement on my work which is going to end up on a Minister's desk, then I HAVE to be right. My research is checked and verified by multiple people before it reaches any senior officials or Minister's desk. If I provide incorrect analysis or statement claiming it's correct, I would face serious consequences for it being wrong. The sheer lack of communication is incredible by the officials. It's so chaotic it's a disgrace
Coming from a Liverpool fan, you’re a legend, Mark. Thank you for speaking out and standing up for the sake of the game, regardless of your allegiances.
For people who will listen to it, or if you go and listen again The voice who says 'offside, check complete' and 'cant do anything. Can't do anything ' That fella had literally just flown out to Man Cities owners' country United Arab Emirates.
Let's face it, no one is gonna want England reffing one of their games again in future. At the best a numpty, at the worst corrupt. Kudos to the replay operator though. The only one doing their job well.
Who remembers when Man Utd were given a penalty vs Brighton even though the game had ended? It's stupid that they couldn't stop the game. This is just absurd. The best example of assisted officiating is in cricket, the communication between the third umpire and the on-field umpire is so clear. There's no chance of something like this happening.
Don’t blame the VAR technology for this. Get competent refs to operate it with a proper system and it will work out very well. Look at other top leagues in Europe, I don’t see anyone complaining in those. Yet this is the best league in the world and can’t fix the officiating.
The more worrying issue is if they can’t get a factual decision correct such as offside, how can anyone trust the hundreds of decisions that have been made on subjective incidents such as penalties and red cards?
Great update. Great video. This whole fiasco is a complete head scratcher!!! Where do we go from here? Who knows, I’d send in Ronnie Pickering. At least he gets his message across
Spot on again Mark totally agree with all you say. I hope Liverpool pursue this all the way. The very idea of football is to score goals so when a goal is scored and officials say it wasn't a goal when it clearly was...what is the point of competing!
Agree, incompetence. Liverpool have every right to take it further but I wish I new what their options are. I wouldn't be against them suing the PGOML. Then may be they will have a better standard of doing their job correctly.
The VAR officials think they're so high and mighty sat in that bloody 4th official box. Put some commoner football fans up in there and see how the game improves!
Can't believe they have rejected the reds appeal on Curtis Jones sending off. Someone's throwing their toys out the pram because the reds aren't backing down.
Obviously ridiculous that they can't go back when the game has just been restarted. Another big problem is that the final communication of the "verdict" is "check complete" instead of "NOT OFFSIDE NOT OFFSIDE NOT OFFSIDE" which of course it should be to avoid confusion. VAR has been in the premier league for 4 years and they never thought of this, wouldn't trust them to make proper procedures for communication now, need an independent body to investigate and work out better procedures.
Hopefully this will make people realize that it is the application that is broken, NOT the technology. The protocol and execution has to be updated. Football NEED video assistance, but the referees and the system in place HAS to be improved.
The thing is, last season everybody complained VAR was way too slow. This season they're doing it much faster (which is nice when it works), but then their communication protocol has to be updated to accomodate this. I don't think it should be about the ref individually, he's only a human being and I actually feel kind of sorry for him. But the communication system needs to be changed to be much less ambiguous
What pisses me off more, is the fact that it was a brilliant finish from an individual player. An he should have another goal to his tally for the season. Its corruption at its finest, Premier League allowed Kane a goal a few years ago after what went down as an own goal, in relation to Diazs goal. As for the game itself, how can you say cant do anything the games restarted? The game had finished between united an Brighton a few years ago, an VAR ruled a penalty to Man United after the ref had blown the whistle. Absolute joke!
When they want throw in taken quickly and rushing to get things moving and it’s the same in VAR room. Talking over it each other is just madness when making decision
As a Liverpool fan I have to say thank you Mark.
This isn't just about Liverpool this is bigger and it could be another team next week. They need to sort this mess out.
Those guys in the VAR booth don't reassure me of the future. They sound amateur
I was waiting for a Scouse to come out with the "if they can do this to us, they can do it to you" Guess what, they have already been doing it to us for decades but we didn't get an emergency meeting at the UN or COBRA special measures.
@@mikezappaso what do you want exactly, besides a quick moan?
Right
@@mikezappabecause other clubs didnt take it this far, they coukd have but chose not to.
That's exactly WHY its gotten this bad, because no one ever holds the PGMOL to account.
It's the "Can't do anything, can't do anything" that gets me. Yes, you can. Give the bloody goal and take the flak for going against the rules because it was the right thing to do. Rules are there to guide, but logic has to take precedence over rules. They should never get to ref the PL ever again, honestly.
You nailed this statement 🎉
That's not how rules work.
@@SanxBile Except it's exactly how rules work, there are always exceptions. When you make a mistake of this magnitude in the best league in the world, with potentially 100s of millions of pounds at stake, you fix it even though the official rules say you can't. Literally no one would complain about the rule being "broken", because it's just common sense to correct the mistake.
@@northpaul707yeah do the right thing lose your job and you can't provide for your family but at least you did the right thing according to football fans 😂
@northpaul707 I wish that was the case, it just isn't. The outcome of high stake situations are rarely decided by common sense.
Can’t believe they didn’t listen to Michael Oliver when he said the game should be delayed. Shocking
Absolutely agree with you
the fact that michael oliver was the one making the most sense here is shocking
‘There’s nothing I can do’ bro thought he was Napoleon😭
@@richierichie1332not really surprising tbh. He's always been near universally considered the best referee in the PL. Not because he's exceptional, more than he's the best out of an awful bunch
@@richierichie1332 that’s what I’m saying says a lot about this officials
Thanks for standing in the breach where others have back-tracked Mark. You've gained a lot of Liverpool supporters respect with how you've voiced your anger over this debacle. I'm sure i'm not the only LFC fan who appreciates you mate. Top man!!
no deffinetly ima lfc fan and this is why i listen to mark
Same. At some point we all have to fight to protect football on a level deeper than clubs.
I’m also a LIV fan & I find all my news here.. keep it up
Mark can be biased to us at times but other than that he's a living legend
Yeah I'm a scouser and lfc supporter and he has respect and talks sense
It was a shambolic interaction between the VAR and the ref
This is a distraction. There was no intent to award Liverpool a goal. They knew what they were doing
@@Four_rl Nice conspiracy, they were just incompetent...
@@notaspeck6104that’s why they were in Saudi the day before . Also it’s a theory not a conspiracy
Absolutely what a joke!@@Four_rl
As a united fan I take great pleasure in your clubs shortcomings but this wasn't right
People believe it's incompetence but there's corruption here somewhere as well.
Give the replay operator a medal
The fact that it wasn't even a trained referee who was first to notice the mistake as well😭
@@fivestarman5130 Its the point though, its probably someone who has been trained in technology and how it is used.
Not a ref thats been put in a position he shouldn't be.
PL needs more untrained refs than trained.....
Everyone is right when they say technical nerds should run var alone
@@fivestarman5130lad exactly that!
Interesting how the 2 people that knew it was wrong were the computer operator and the guy that runs the Hub. The 2 'trained referees' were clueless
System that defaults to “check complete” instead of saying the decision is horrible. If they just said “VAR DECISION ONSIDE” or “VAR DECISION PENALTY” Instead of “check complete”, the problem goes away…
I agree, that "Check complete" should be followed by "GOAL" or "NO GOAL"
and that is so simple, literally something a programmer with 1 day of experience can make
@@Azzazz1n97 We are dealing with football authorities, so logic goes out the window with these clowns.
The banner read “disallowed goal” and check for offside. The commentators and everyone knew that the goal had been disallowed before the check. Those in VAR knew what happened to that point. VAR and AVAR played dumb, were intentionally vague up until the point of refusing to correct the decision. The replay operator seemed entirely baffled and had to repeat himself verbatim multiple times, as though VAR’s eyes and ears had stopped working whilst everyone else could understand what was happening; that is absolutely not normal and seemed very intentional.
I agree, VAR should have said their decision. Check complete is onside/penalty/foul/etc.
"we cant do anything" like they didnt give ManU a pen after the final whistle vs brighton
And literally nobody supported that decision.
The was about a season or two ago pal. Pretty old history there. Not sure why you named dropped united in there other then. You know the obvious
@@spookystorytime2774 especially since those are two completely different situations
@@spookystorytime2774 dont get defensive mate, all they meant was that VAR could've done something after realizing their screw up
@@gabrielhicks8043 also I agree VAR should have delayed the game and made the right decision. Not disagreeing on that
As a Liverpool fan.. Rivalries aside Mark. THANKYOU !!
You're a legit proper football fan 👏
Regardless of what team you support, we should all get behind this 💯
“Not that I’ve ever been to one” 😂😂😂 Top content mate, as always
I feel for Liverpool even though I support United, shocking decision 💀
If this happens to united I would feel for united. This is about the integrity of the game. Rivalries aside!
@@sushipizza4439 🙌🙌
Aye things like this are just beyond team allegiance and everyone should be behind calling it out for how insane it is
We all like seeing goals scored. It's was a nice goal. It's why we all watch the game. I'd feel the same for every team.
@@86Brasco Change hopefully will come now 🙏
Well Done Mark Keep Up The Good Work Mate 👍
I watch rugby. I watch cricket. The sheer difference in protocol and organization for a off-field review in those sports vs football is ABSOLUTELY staggering. No talking over each other, working together to get the right decision. It's ridiculous.
this is the same company for all sports mentioned. it’s the crap officials feeling sorry for themselves that their jobs aren’t as important anymore not allowing tech to be implemented as fully as it needs to be to be successful
communication is key. they don’t have it. Also the way Mark describes things is hilarious 😂😂
Creasing about the medication bit 😂😂
If they had told the teams what happened, they most likely would have agreed to just let Liverpool score. It has been done multiple times in the past when a team scored during a play in which they were supposed to return the ball.
Not really. VAR is contentious.
Unfortunately I doubt Spurs would have agreed to that when it was 0-0
@@jimmybloxham3434idk if they would or wouldn’t but it would be asking a lot of them
Darren England "Check complete, its fine, perfect... off" That is no human error. Cheating of the highest order.
"CAN'T DO ANYTHING! "
It should be like a flight check in a cockpit.
Original decision: offside
Do the lines
VAR - Player position onside
VAR Assistant - Onside
Clear and obvious? Yes
Player onside, award goal
Job done
Mark is spot on. Too many people wanting to say their own thing. Having a structured formula would help everyone.
Really loving the content, have to say as a Liverpool fan that it’s refreshing to hear someone who actually just cares about football.
Agree.. he is the true football fan..
The real problem for me after hearing that is, if that's the kind of chaos that goes on behind the scenes, how can you trust these people with 'any' decision? You'd imagine a technology driven process to be cold, almost mechanical, very rational, and here you have a bunch of people talking over each other, rushing things over, and appearing in complete panic over the fact that they have to go over through a simple decision. If there ever was evidence that VAR is making things worse, this is it!!!
VAR hasn't made anything worse, still more right calls than wrong. The issue is with idiotic refs that don't know how to use technology. There should be processes in place to confirm a call being made, they should repeat out the full decision and ensure it's correctly understood before making it final.
And zero accountability.
the people they put in var have zero training being a ref on pitch and a video ref are two different skill sets. they should have took retired or nearing retired officials to train as var officials
@@themadmoderator8465 Anybody could do that job mate, any level of education litrally anybody could do VAR no problem at all.
Opportunity for them to use taxpayers’ money to pump more finances into “improvements”
VAR is great. It's the protocols and the incompetent people that are bad. Getting rid of VAR would be an even bigger mistake. Protocols need to be changed and we need to start hiring the world's best referees
Your coverage of this situation has been nothing other than professional, putting rivalries and all aside for the greater good of the sport we all love !
The VAR had a holiday in UAE Thursday before game, the reason he couldn't stop the game because he would have to give his pay check back
If any of us had a blunder of similar consequence at our place of work we all would have gotten the sack…
Chef: John, you've pissed in the soup! Put it down, don't give it to the customers!
John the Waiter: Can't do anything.
If only Premier league clubs weren't so commercially affiliated, there'd actually be a strike about this
Those officials for what ever reason both on and off the pitch. Had the full intention that the result of that game was the result of the game. Liverpool where never meant to win that game and they made it happen.
Talking of Gary Neville , he's fairly changed his tune over the last 24 hours !! ( must have got the memo from sky !! 😉).
Also look at the clip of Simon Hooper during the Spurs throw in. He could clearly HEAR the VAR room. It's a complete lie that he wasn't aware of what was going on.
As a Liverpool supporter, I've accepted that there probably won't be any changes to the game/result/loss points/etc. But as a football supporter, I'm just glad this is being pursued for the sake of future matches that can be affected
Same here mate
Absolutely beyond words and ideas! 😮
Thank you Mark for your unbiased and level headed take on this whole situation, from a liverpool fan 👍
On top of all this they upheld Jones's red card which was never a red card to begin with.
As a Liverpool fan I do feel a bit calmer, even though the rules are ridiculous and they feel they couldn't change it. They did notice it, the rules are just bad. This should spark a change, before the next game is kicked off. But hearing them effing and jeffing actually realising the mistake does help. Because in my mind I was expecting some sort of bias nonsense.
It's still not good enough, they're still complete morons who can't think critically and get buried under protocol and bureaucracy. To hell with it. Just shout into the refs ear: "STOP THE GAME IMMEDIATELY. THAT WAS A GOAL." Sure they get a slap on the wrist for breaking the rules, but who cares, it's a stupid rule anyway. And can you imagine the credit they'd be getting for preserving the integrity of the game? Instead all 4 of those fools decided to stay silent and in the process ruined their reputations.
Im a spurs fan but i was confused about it, but they followed the rules properly, they just thought they were making a different decision. I also want to ask if the reaction would be this severe if it was spurs who were robbed of a goal instead. I dont think it would, i think the general reaction would be that its 'typical spurs'. So while i do feel sympathy, i do feel it is a sort of justice as liverpool have benefited more from var mistakes than any other team since the introduction of var. The problem is that var is being operated with pre var rules. That is why they cant go back after a decision is made. Because pre var rules say that officials cant go back and change decision after. The rules should have been adjusted to allow more chance to go back and change incorrect decisions.
@@flakygaming2647 Don't know if it would have been the same reaction, but it should be, no matter which team would have been affected by it.
I blame leadership and rule makers. They have put refs in bad place. Mistakes will happen and they do not allow any way to retract mistakes.
@@flakygaming2647 How can you say they followed the rules properly if they didn't even know what the on field decision was? And I think you're wrong to suggest that the reaction from the masses would have been any different were this to happen to Spurs. This isn't an issue of tribalism; this cuts deeply into the integrity of the process we as fans are told to trust, and everyone can feel it equally. Everyone not peddling an agenda thinks, "This could happen to my team next," and they will fight against it. We can't let tribalism stop us from holding the PGMOL to a professional standard.
I work a high level job. I conduct evidence based economic research for a government department. If I make a statement on my work which is going to end up on a Minister's desk, then I HAVE to be right. My research is checked and verified by multiple people before it reaches any senior officials or Minister's desk. If I provide incorrect analysis or statement claiming it's correct, I would face serious consequences for it being wrong. The sheer lack of communication is incredible by the officials. It's so chaotic it's a disgrace
Coming from a Liverpool fan, you’re a legend, Mark. Thank you for speaking out and standing up for the sake of the game, regardless of your allegiances.
Liverpool fan here and you’ve absolutely nailed it Mark 👍
For people who will listen to it, or if you go and listen again
The voice who says 'offside, check complete' and 'cant do anything. Can't do anything '
That fella had literally just flown out to Man Cities owners' country United Arab Emirates.
Let's face it, no one is gonna want England reffing one of their games again in future. At the best a numpty, at the worst corrupt. Kudos to the replay operator though. The only one doing their job well.
Do you mean one of the most luxurious places to go visit?
Liverpool fan here,,,all I wanna say is Thank you Mark ❤
Who remembers when Man Utd were given a penalty vs Brighton even though the game had ended? It's stupid that they couldn't stop the game. This is just absurd. The best example of assisted officiating is in cricket, the communication between the third umpire and the on-field umpire is so clear. There's no chance of something like this happening.
Well said Mark. Absolutely spot on
Don’t blame the VAR technology for this. Get competent refs to operate it with a proper system and it will work out very well. Look at other top leagues in Europe, I don’t see anyone complaining in those. Yet this is the best league in the world and can’t fix the officiating.
Well said, absolutely spot on. What's worse, a slap on the wrist for breaking a stupid rule or to be hung from a lampost???
The more worrying issue is if they can’t get a factual decision correct such as offside, how can anyone trust the hundreds of decisions that have been made on subjective incidents such as penalties and red cards?
Well done Mark. You have spoke about this incident better than anyone else. Nailed it
Great update. Great video.
This whole fiasco is a complete head scratcher!!!
Where do we go from here?
Who knows, I’d send in Ronnie Pickering. At least he gets his message across
No one's going to talk about the jones red card extended to a 3-match suspension?
LFC fan here. I actually subscribed to your channel a few months ago because you speak the truth and love football. Much appreciated.
Spot on again Mark totally agree with all you say. I hope Liverpool pursue this all the way. The very idea of football is to score goals so when a goal is scored and officials say it wasn't a goal when it clearly was...what is the point of competing!
Agree, incompetence. Liverpool have every right to take it further but I wish I new what their options are. I wouldn't be against them suing the PGOML. Then may be they will have a better standard of doing their job correctly.
Spot on once again, mark. I hope liverpool will start the fight for better rules and VAR protocols. From Liverpool supporter
i love mark as a liverpool fan for supporting us ty ♥
All the referee had to ask was: "was it offside?"
Clear as day, no doubts about it.
Hooper wanted a spurs win, he heard what he wanted to hear
The VAR officials think they're so high and mighty sat in that bloody 4th official box. Put some commoner football fans up in there and see how the game improves!
Why couldnt we hear the ref or the fourth official? Surely the ref asks to confirm the outcome? To make sure he heard it correctly
Absolutely right Mark…..couldn’t agree more.
"Offside yeah,goal yeah" 😂
No leadership, no one in control!
literally just read the transcript; based on that can we bin the refs and just let the guy operating the replays do the job
I want to see some heads rolling. This is not acceptable. This is unforgivable. They must be accountable.
Applaud your coverage of this issue - this is bigger than individual clubs
To avoid the confusion the public VAR screens merely had to display 'ONSIDE' rather than 'CHECK COMPLETE'
Or GOAL or NO GOAL
There’s no need for “check complete”. Just give us the verdict.
Ridiculous how many people are involved looking at a simple decision on a screen
Can't believe they have rejected the reds appeal on Curtis Jones sending off. Someone's throwing their toys out the pram because the reds aren't backing down.
This is a very good channel Mark - from a Liverpool fan. 👍👍
Compare that to how Rugby referees communicate with TMO.
Howard Webb has to go, he's the boss, the buck stops with him
Give em hell Mark! Please! For all our sakes. For those of us without a voice! Appreciate what your trying to do.
I’ve been refreshing waiting for this video to drop. You are a legend Mark
“Not that I’ve ever been to one” thanks for clarifying Mark 😂😂
Well said and I completely agree!
"Offside, goal, yeah," & "I can't do anything" are iconic
Hats off to this bloke,, the only person throughout this farce that has spoken any sense👍👏👏👏👏
Mark, you are the sensible voice of football. Well done!
Spot on Mr.Goldbridge as usual. A man with simple common sense and isn't scared to say what he wants to.
2:49 most mark goldbridge thing ever 💀
Sky caught lying too claiming the did’nt have the lines when clearly they did 🤬🤬
Obviously ridiculous that they can't go back when the game has just been restarted. Another big problem is that the final communication of the "verdict" is "check complete" instead of "NOT OFFSIDE NOT OFFSIDE NOT OFFSIDE" which of course it should be to avoid confusion. VAR has been in the premier league for 4 years and they never thought of this, wouldn't trust them to make proper procedures for communication now, need an independent body to investigate and work out better procedures.
This is how policemen and politicians work. Exactly like that!!....
“Can’t do anything move on”
Translates to:
“Hopefully no one notices and we can get away with it”
Hopefully this will make people realize that it is the application that is broken, NOT the technology. The protocol and execution has to be updated. Football NEED video assistance, but the referees and the system in place HAS to be improved.
Tremendous video. Should be trending, thank you 👏👏
It was absolutely shocking
Massive respect from a Liverpool fan
Too many people involved in the decision making process. Bureaucracy gone mad!
They need to have a VAR leader, who talks to everyone. Not everyone talking like a bunch of idiots
Correct the communication! Not the rule about reviewing plays after the retake is taken. Simple.
The thing is, last season everybody complained VAR was way too slow. This season they're doing it much faster (which is nice when it works), but then their communication protocol has to be updated to accomodate this. I don't think it should be about the ref individually, he's only a human being and I actually feel kind of sorry for him. But the communication system needs to be changed to be much less ambiguous
Appreciate this Mark, from a football fan first, a Liverpool fan second 👍
It's not only the disallowed goal guys.. the full game was a joke..
need to take it to the Court of sports arbitration!
What pisses me off more, is the fact that it was a brilliant finish from an individual player. An he should have another goal to his tally for the season. Its corruption at its finest, Premier League allowed Kane a goal a few years ago after what went down as an own goal, in relation to Diazs goal. As for the game itself, how can you say cant do anything the games restarted? The game had finished between united an Brighton a few years ago, an VAR ruled a penalty to Man United after the ref had blown the whistle. Absolute joke!
Award points to Liverpool
When they want throw in taken quickly and rushing to get things moving and it’s the same in VAR room. Talking over it each other is just madness when making decision
I think the replay operator should become VAR 👏
Thank you Mark. I'm a big fan of your show. And I'm an LFC fan.
The mistake they made is still tolerable , but the decision they made after it is not.
They should have told the ref straight away
Insane that the replay operator was the only component man there. It just makes the argument that VAR should be handled by none Refs.
Salute again Mark..you chose straight facts over silly sound bites
Brilliant as always Mark. Loving your comments on this mess