There is zero excuse to get offsides wrong, this isn't arbitrary handball or red card issues. You have the lines and the tech, this is not acceptable. Literally in shock listening to that statement.
I noticed VAR missed a penalty for Manchester United today also when a Crystal Palace player casually knocked the ball out of play using his hands 🤦♂😂
Exactly, offsides are well-defined unlike certain types of fouls which can be subjected to some kind of interpretation that will result in different judgement being passed. As you have mentioned; they have the lines, the tech and (I shall add on) the luxury of time to do the check but somehow all these came to naught.
It’s one thing making bad, subjective decisions, but when it gets to the point that even with VAR these refs are just blatantly wrong, something has to be done
Im an Everton fan but this is utterly unacceptable. Games have such high stakes these days and they are constantly being determined by the boys club. It's either clear corruption or utter incompetence. A week suspension doesn't cut it. Whoever was in charge of VAR there should be sacked. There's incidents like this nearly every week because these clowns can't do a job that 90% of the public could do better.
Respect from a Red to a Blue, your comments are very much appreciated. In a city where the family rivalry has somewhat changed to one where there is anger and distaste, it is nice to know there are some fans out there that can see through the corruption and offer a fair and unbiased point of view. We saw a horrendous decision last year in the City v EFC game. Their lies and corruption are affecting the majority of teams in the PL (it seems one team gets away with everything though). Brown envelopes are being pushed about, slid under doors and people are being bought all over the place. I hate to say it but these FPP charges against City and Everton, I reckon City will walk with a minor fine but Everton, they'll throw the book at because there's a very strange agenda and it has to be manipulated to benefit the objective. It's wrong and unjust. Something has to change because this whole league is a disaster snowballing out of control.
@noobxp1683 Red cards are subjective. Some people will sit on either side of the fence when it comes to those decisions. My opinion is irrelevant. Liverpool fans have no right to complain about red cards/fouls/penalties as they've been on the benefiting end of many of those decisions, in my opinion they shouldn't have been awarded a penalty in the first minute of the champions league final. But again, that's subjective. The disallowed goal, however, is not. That goal should have stood. And the fact that it didn't because play had started and its against protocol to go back and fix things is absurd. As a fan of the game it just doesn't sit right.
@@aizenangelFinally some non emotional football fans, very very bad mistake from the VAR team and the ref for not stopping the play or even waiting for the ball to go out. but its all should've, could've, would've. onto the next game for us Liverpool fans.
As an LFC fan I never thought I'd say this. Nice one Gary for calling the corruption, no sorry wrong word, incompetence out on air. PGMOL should be investigated immediately.
As a Spurs fan, I really don't think it's corruption, just terrible decision making and lack of competance from VAR. The thing is, if every club's fanbase is calling it out, it can't be corruption, it comes around to negatively effect everyone, even we have had terrible decisions this season. Serious change needs to be done, as it's just terrible for football going forward, means no one is happy and even Spurs fans like me can't properly celebrate a win tonight.
This is actually highly unacceptable. Bad decisions like these are gonna cost teams like Liverpool later on in the season. This sort of incompetence needs to change.
Why they said no to the semi automated offside system they use around Europe I will never know because that's how smooth, quick and accurate offside checks should look
VAR needs its own independent body to review what’s supposed to be an independent body. Absolute joke in this day and age. The PGMOL statement isn’t enough. This match fixture should be replayed and come with heavy, independent fines for the officials. This is coming from a fan of neither clubs. Embarrassing.
I agree. VAR that can run rampant without any fear of punishment is too open for corruption or foul play. The worst of it is that any club can get on the bad side of VAR and all they get is an acknowledgement of error from PGMOL. They need to adhere to their own rules and pay fines for their errors. It's easy handing out fines to coaches and players for speaking out of emotions during a game. But somehow they're free of judgement when our English league is infamous for the worst officials and refereeing body. So comical.
@@EliasRoyyou must be 13. an adult understands the importance of pointing out errors. no matter what club it effects. next saturday its your team. and youll be crying.
The only plausible explanation is that VAR must have thought that the offsides call from the linesman was made before the goal was scored. If that were the case, then yes, VAR can't intervene because the play is dead at the point of the call, which would have been before the goal was scored. But, that's not what happened here. The linesman waited to call offsides AFTER the goal, which is what linesmen are told to do so that the entire play is reviewable by VAR.
I watched this game from Australia and never in my entire life have I witnessed such blatant corruption in a football match. A match decided not by the two teams but by both onfield officials and disgraceful VAR. Liverpool were never going to win this game if they had anything to do about it, and so it turned out. I for one wont be watching the PL until bank accounts are checked as part of a full investigation.
As a West Ham fan I feel for Liverpool here, what a total disgrace. It’s ruining the game we all cherish and love. Some serious investigation is needed! Never thought I’d enjoy a Neville interview either 😂.
It's not ruining the game, the refs without VAR get these offside calls wrong all the time. But the fact they still sometimes getting it wrong with VAR is genuinely embarrassing.
I am grateful to see fans of other clubs speaking up for Liverpool. Mad respect for you guys. If these errors can happen to Liverpool, it can happen to you guys too. I would hate to watch a rigged match. I rather watch a match lost badly than a match lost due to atrocious errors.
It's been every club at some point, and it will continue to cost us all games. Could you imagine your club getting relegated over a VAR decision like Liverpool yesterday?
@@cyandrix it has been every club bar Man City who always seem to get away with several things and rarely have anything go against them. They are also charged for cheating financial fair play and it's gone quiet. kinda make sense
@cyandrix8264 I understand it affects every club but to see so many people from other clubs coming to defend something that happened to other clubs is heartwarming.
As a Utd fan I never believed Liverpool fans when they said the league was rigged for City’s favour. But after city losing today I wondered whether something would happen to favour them and it was so painfully obvious with that Diaz disallowed goal. Everyone could see he was on by about a foot and the skipping over it so quickly without even drawing lines screams of corruption at the highest level
This happens alot with city, whoever threatens them gets bad decision it happened to arsenal last season, Liverpool the years before that. The only consistent thing about the refs is how the 'poor decisions' favour oil run clubs
I'm not even a Liverpool fan, I'm a City fan and that was absolutely unacceptable from these officials. Who's to hold them accountable for stuff like this cause if there isn't any action done, then how is it fair on the teams that are disadvantaged?
if you're a city fan, better don't say anything, because the Arabs are behind these decisions, so your team has a chance to win the title again. Remember Rodri's handball? VAR said nothing. Please... 🤫
Screw all of that. If they are admitting they could not officiate the match correctly the whole match should be void. Simple. There are plenty of Non-EFL-FA-Europe mid week available fixtures to rework this and other already botched matches. Make an open admission of failure and say "The matches were not played with fairness at the heart of the sport, so replay them."@@mymemories925
Bro I'm a spurs fan and we dont deserve the win at all we were playing poorly against 9 man, Liverpool defensive was really good tho but the VAR decision was unacceptable, and I cant believe my fellow spurs fans still celebrating this win...
As an arsenal fan it's just unbelievable at this stage, you can see even without the lines that he's onside, there is no excuse. And don't even get me started on that referee today.
I'm a red and have said this for a few seasons now...I don't care if it's a decision against my own team, as long as it's correct. I'm starting to believe that there are big bets going on, on these games somewhere in the world!. Look at yourselves against Brentford last season.
I'm not a Liverpool fan. At all. But this is a disgrace. How the hell can we as fans ever forget this moment? VAR is a liability and a complete joke! I feel so bad for Liverpool and their fans. I would be fuming if it eas my club. That's completely unforgettable and unforgiveable. Fire that ref right now!
@@781David Two game suspension is not good enough. Darrent England needs to be sacked. Without refs being held accountable for their actions, nothing will change.
I’m not a Liverpool fan. But I don’t like this happening because it can and will happen to your team eventually as well. Typically the linesman is told to NOT flag offsides and allow VAR to reviews it after the goal. So the fact that it was called offsides to begin with was strange. Then without ANY lines you can see it was clearly onsides. This is more then a human error.
I'll have to watch the game again, but I don't think the linesman called offsides before the goal was scored. This allows VAR to review it. Had the linesman called offsides before the goal, VAR cannot review it because the play is dead when the offsides is called, which would be before the goal. Therefore, it's not reviewable.
...or not doing - human "error". They also knew what they were doing when they presented the Jones tackle still the way they did, and for the length of time that they did, and then only show slow mo footage from just one angle@@terrypage358
The reason why this is so shocking is because VAR is meant to correct mistakes. How can the group of individuals in the VAR booth collectively get something this simple wrong? It's madness. Fire them and get people who actually have common sense reviewing things.
They did everything correct except for the communication part with the main ref. Linesman called it offside at first so original ref’s verdict was to disallow the goal. And the VAR booth only said ‘Check complete’ not paying attention that the verdict by the main ref was offside. They should have just communicated it better
Dont be stupid 4 people in VAR , 3 refs and other staff that are supposed to have control ove the game. This is no mistake , its clear match fixing for the bookies!
But you've also benefited from decisions too. This is the biggest problem, the mistakes are happening league-wide. What worries me is that because it's happened in a Liverpool match, there's demand for a huge inquiry, yet why has it taken until this for PGMOL to acknowledge errors? Many of the smaller clubs have had to put up with shocking decisions for years now, and yet the officials and PGMOL stay silent. They either need to use the rugby TMO approach, or just axe the whole thing, because the money that's being spent for this level of ineptitude is frankly beyond farcical.
@@adewale8759 the point of your comment being that decisions like this might mean you losing out on the title? Yes, I got that. My point in rebuttal of yours was that it's not only Liverpool this has happened to. We've seen years of decisions going against teams that could be the difference between relegation or not, European places, title races etc. We've also seen a lot of bad VAR calls the past couple of years too. I'll be honest pal, I think some people are a bit bugged by how far Liverpool are planning on taking this, how much the media are lapping it up, and what exactly PGMOL are going to do further (they've already sacked or suspended one official). It seems there's way more fury and reaction here than any previous instances of VAR controversy. For the record, I totally understand their anger at the decisions, I've been annoyed myself as a fan, but I just don't see what else they want. They aren't going to void the result and/or rescind the cards, so unless there's an overhaul of VAR, we'll be facing similar situations in the near future! By the way, claims of corruption require some kind of evidence of such activity. Incompetence and ineptitude are different things entirely.
They have one job to do. That's it. So many errors this season. Who will it be next week. Clubs need to come together on this. The integrity of the game is at stake.
The amount of money being thrown around in premier league football and they can't seem to get simple onside/offside decisions correct with in three match officials watching the game in person and room of officials using VAR, it's truly horrendous. Not a Liverpool fan, but this kind of error needs to have serious consequences for those involved.
It's amazing how they find new ways to mess up the use of what should be a very helpful tech every week. This was certainly a low point but not the only one
I’m a spurs fan so I’m obviously happy with the result but that offside not being checked by VAR is an absolute shambles and a disgrace to the premier league
@@symoredollaz610Grow up mate. I'm a Liverpool fan but nice to see a spurs fan call it out. We're all happy until it affects our team and it will affect every team because every single ref is crap.
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerYes. Do tell me, which fanbase(s) do you think would accept such an insignificant “apology” after being disadvantaged in such absurd circumstances?
this wasnt robbery, this was downright corruption. The Jones tackle was never a red card, Diaz was clearly onside even to the naked eye, Jota's first yellow wasnt even a foul let alone a yellow. These refs need to be sacked and this game needs to be replayed, theres no other way around this. A serious invesitgation needs to be done here by an independent body. Imagine the scenario we lose the league by 3 points, we can clearly say the refs have cost us the league and also money.
Simon Hooper is also the ref that didn’t give the pen for Wolves, how can you make two ‘clear and obvious errors’ in 7 games and have nothing happen to you
As an Arsenal fan, Liverpool losing would clearly benefit us,but Liverpool were clearly robbed and these shows were these is the only league were an obvious corruptions can be stated as a mistake,and it's all in favour to support one team.
I'm sorry but it felt like the officials wanted Liverpool to absolutely lose today because every decision went against them. The red cards you can sometimes expect but the VAR decision felt like blatant cheating because of how quick it was checked.
I thought Wolves was bad ( 9 yellows & 2 reds not given ) Then i saw this . When a ref is crap , we expect that like the Wolves game he was shocking but video refs have the time to look at it analyse it .Id ask for a replay of the game & wipe those 2 red cards as Null & Void
And the fact that both the commentators and pundit panel at half time and after the game just brushed over it like it was nothing... Like they were all in on it from the higher ups...
As a chelsea fan, a disgrace. The referees in this country are abysmal. A game suspended won't do nothing. Its just a day off for the refs, Suspend them for the season or sack them. This refeering can really affect a title race but the PGMOL won't take action. Absolutely insane how they didn't see that was onside with all the tech that we have in VAR. People say VAR is the problem, but no, it's the referees. They're either bias or they aren't good enough. Disgraceful.
The only "human error" was taking the huge bung. That offside was the most corrupt decision I have seen in fifty years of watching football. It makes me wonder if there is any point continuing to watch the game. None of the match officials should ever work again. It absolutely stinks.
@oldbloke135 I have to disagree on one point. Drogba goal for Chelsea at United that won them the title was the most blatant offside ever he was 2 yards offside and for some reason lino never saw it😮
Thank you Gary...as a Liverpool fan i have to say this...firstly, i have never seen so many cards thrown around like confetti before, secondly, Diaz was onside, third and last....i took longer blowing my nose than the VAR took to make that decision... it's atrocious.
I'm a man utd fan and i think you were robbed yesterday. Really awful stuff. Rivalry between teams is great but yesterday was about something sinister and nasty that will have a horrible impact on the game for all of us. . Klopp is a legend, you lucky so and sos! 😀
The red cards were justified in my opinion (1st one was a shocker), however that offside decision was genuinely appalling. The officials have no accountability, and had the nerve to put out a "we did an oopsie, hihi" statement
@@cyandrix I wasn't happy with Jota's playing at all..you could see Salah playing more of the go too position centre forward after Jota went off.. that second red was unintentional but worthy of the red ....we as Liverpool deserved at least the draw...quite unfortunate not to get the win...if Diaz goal was allowed it would have changed everything..just my opinion.
As a Spurs fan I feel for Liverpool here. I was sitting there watching at home and thinking this is surely going to be overturned and the goal awarded, as everyone and their dog and gran could see Romero's leg playing Diaz onside, with the pitch lines helping in addition. A serious reveiw needs to happen. I will even say I thought the red card and 1st Jota yellow were harsh. I have always been a fan of VAR to ensure fairness and the right calls are made that would normally slip through and have massive consequences, but if VAR is then incorrectly overturning decisions, or not intervening correctly, then get rid and go back to trust in just the officials on the pitch. Personally I want to know that my team has won fairly, and not just for draws and loses.
The way Klopp conducted himself was fantastic. And im glad that FOOTBALL fans, regardless of who they support, can see the obvious injustice in this instance.
okay so they have acknowledeged that they made a mistake, but what's the point? are they gonna get their points back? how is it gonna give back what liverpool were robbed off? Honestly, every single time this happens, they just apologize thinking its all solved, and then go on to repeat the same things again. If you aren't gonna give the points or have the match replayed n stuff like this, why can't you just fix your system. This is honestly so frustrating and tiring man, just kills the love of the game.
The only way to fix VAR it is to allow coaches to challenge a call like they do in the NFL. It forces the ref to look at the monitor and make the decision.
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker surely they would only allow them to have a set amount of challenges. Say three like they do in cricket (if I'm not mistaken)
Dude. We have the technology that no one would ever argue anything over it. Look at how they do it in World Cup and UCL. They just prefer this for corruption
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerthis isnt just going against him. The pgmol came out and said they messed up. Anybody would be upset, especially during potentially one of the biggest games of the season
Keep in mind title races the last few years have come down to ONE POINT. This embarrassment could have huge, embarrassing repercussions, on the title race.
Before i hated the super league. But like you said in your comment , since the PL is more corrupt than American politics, I think the super league should exist. Also, if more decision goes wrong to any team I’m not watching the PL. I think other fans should do the same.
Can we also talk about both of the unnecessary red cards? Two men down, an onside goal disallowed is completely robbery and blatant incompetence. This needs a FULL REVIEW AND INVESTIGATION by a third party because obviously PGMOL can't get it right. Disgraceful.
All the bad luck we could have had this season...got dished out in one game. That's my glass-half-full take on it, and i still think we can win the league.
Stupidity or corruption.. its one or the other.. and, as in all aspects of life, those two options should leave to an immediate removal of duties for Darren England & Dan Cook (VAR & assiatant-VAR). NO excuses for missed offsides.
This is inexcusable. How can they admit they got it wrong right after the game? Why not take the extra 30 seconds and actually check it? Amazing this is the third or 4th time they've come out after a Liverpool game and said they made a mistske. Its getting to the point where it has to be on purpose
This hurts, so much. It’s hard to put into words but it’s bittersweet because after last season I saw heart in the team. That was beautiful. 9 against 11 and they didn’t have a way through. YNWA
I am annoyed as a Spurs fan, of course I am happy for the 3 points but I wanted us to get them by winning the game without interference, it would've been a great game with lots of goals. But it was ruined, the Red was also harsh... I want to see my teams improvement when playing vs a good side, sadly that didn't happen. This just makes all fans on all sides upset (Liverpool fans the most) but Spurs fans will also feel like others will see Spurs as a "lucky team" or a team that didn't deserve the win when we might have deserved the win if the full game was played normally.
@@iknowball1301 No what matters is that the rules are adhered to, because the people they say oh just take the points. Your team will be next and then you'll be furious
I was shocked that VAR upheld the offside for that Diaz goal. They didn't even bother to use the lines. It has to be corruption, nothing else can explain that.
What legit bothers me as a Liverpool fan is that VAR did not even bother placing the lines to CHECK if its offside as is stipulated by there rules and protocols. The technology is fine its once again the HUMAN error that is the common theme with all these errors!
We as football fans, of whichever club want correct decisions. It doesn't matter who you support. Integrity and honesty is better than admitting you made a mistake.
Even Spurs fans including myself know that was obviously onside. Yeah, we got the win, but didn't deserve it. When something like this ruins one of our games in the future, I'll be livid. It's just not good for football, no matter if my team wins.
They did the same thing last year on Arsenal vs Brentford and honestly these apologies are just unacceptable. These decisions impact the teams position on the log in the longrun. NO NO NO!!
@@andy.m265that Brentford game was just before Manchester city. Had Arsenal won that Brentford game they go into Manchester city with a win and greening confidence. Aswell as Arsenal having a disallowed goal against man united at old trafford Martinelli. Had that goal counted im sure arsenal would’ve won that match as they don’t lose from losing positions. That’s 6 clear points VAR cost Arsenal last season and low and behold if you gave arsenal 6 points last year they finish above city with 90 points 😂
This is beyond a joke. I'm a Tottenham fan but any supporter of a Team anywhere can see this is spoiling the game; beyond the jokes about referees being on "someone's side" it's obvious that incompetence is behind it. Can't blame the technology, blame the people controlling it. Criminal.
Respect to you dude. As a red myself, it's heart warming to know there are really decent football fans out there that just want TRUE decisions being made and the game won through the skill of the game and not the corruption behind the scenes.
Even me as a Spurs fan could see that Diaz was onside, didn't need to even look at it twice nevermind having technology to assist you. Don't think Jota should've been sent either. Jones was unlucky with how he landed but i did think it was a red. Didn't learn a lot about Spurs yesterday though, would've much preferred the full 90 to be 11 v 11.
This event can't be put down to human error. They didn't even check it. Everyone who watched the match saw it was too quick. There is VAR and VAR assistant, and neither bothered to check an event as significant as a goal. What possible explanation can they have? They forgot. Said check complete by accident and didn't bother correcting it? The only thing that makes sense at this point is a blatant attempt to affect the result of a match.
So even if VAR was not there, the goal would still have been disallowed because the onfield call was offside... So it was a mistake not some conspiracy to make Liverpool loose the match.
@@simonsimon325 Bro it was not VAR technological failure but a communication gap between VAR and on field referee. VAR thought the onfield call was goal and he just said "check complete" thinking goal will be given but since the onfield decision was offside, the goal was disallowed and later on when they realised the mistake, nothing could be done as play had moved on.. So it was nothing like they had not checked or they did quickly or in a hurry but a 'human error'
I mean why not draw the lines for the offside, first red card fine atleast they checked it (eventhough i totally disagree with the decision)@@mathjoker
@@mathjoker This wasn't a mistake. It was clear corruption. They could ask the ref to review the yellow card for Jones but could not draw even a single line for an offside goal that looked onside to even the normal eye no matter what angle you looked at it. This is NOT a mistake
@@Michael-fc7noI agree the red Jones got is a straight red and there's no reason for a player to ever make a challenge like that. However the 2 yellows Jota got in an interval of under 5 minutes were pretty absurd. First one is a clearly accidental soft contact with the opponents heel (not even his toes, so could hardly argue it's a trip). Something like that is a soft foul, definitely not a yellow. The second yellow was also pretty harsh. Yes he got none of the ball, but it was a pretty soft low tackle. It's fair to give a first yellow for something like that, but to give a second is overkill.
This is ridiculous, these sort of decisions can potentially cost teams League titles. Im not even a Liverpool fan but if they lose out by one or two points then these goals could.make all the difference.
The penalty area line is quite different though, the angle is really confusing as well. If I go by the pitch line, then sure, onside. But pitch lines aren't "official", so to speak. Otherwise? Who the hell knows?
@ondrejturecek2850 the pitch lines aren't official but they are 100% straight. The penalty area line isn't in question here. Its obvious he's onside either way.
@@ondrej1893 you are watching a video explaining they have released their official statement saying it was onside and you’re still trying to argue it could’ve been offside? 😂
Apparently the VAR thought the goal had been given, so when they checked and saw the player was onside and said check complete, they thought they were confirming that it was a legitimate goal whereas they were confirming the actual on-field decision that it was offside. This explains why the check was completed so quickly as it was pretty obvious even without drawing lines that the player was onside. It still beggars belief that the VAR didn't know that the goal had been called offside, there's clearly a communication breakdown or the VAR wasn't paying proper attention to the game or got confused somehow. And why just say check complete, why not clearly state the outcome of the check. If they'd said the player was onside, or the goal stands, then the on-field ref would have reversed the offside decision.
This is a terrible day for the game. The officials/directors/producers and whoever is behind the scenes running the programming just straight up lied to everyone involved with the match. There has to surely be some sort of match fixing going on. As Gary said, there's been a couple of others the past couple of weeks where the lines and angles just haven't looked right either. Something is really going on behind the scenes.
It's maddening that corruption is so rarely mentioned in instances like this. There's no way anyone who's gone through all the training to become a top level referee, is getting decisions like this so incredibly wrong. It reeks. You can tell the pundits have to bite their tongues when accusing referees of serious wrong doing but it's getting so brazen that Im amazed no one has finally just said it
Don't be afraid to use your brain@@yupman95 . I'm not even a Liverpool fan, and while the game could have gone either way, that goal would have changed the entire complexion of the game/results.
@@yupman95 Not sure if you can add up but a goal given for liverpool could have seen both teams end up with a point instead of 3 for Tottenham and 0 for Liverpool and could effect league positions at the end of the season.
The match was the biggest of the weekend and beamed around the world for millions to see. This is absolutely embarrassing for the league and the brand as a whole.
Dear Dean: Dramatic delivery. However, the further away viewers are from the UK -- the less enthusiasm they feel (as in the US, for example), as their office/workplace social butterfly topic system works differently.
@@eddyvideostar you can't bring USA, football not that big there. And if you wonder, PL TV right highest coming from abroad : Asia, Africa, South America, Europe and there are billion spectators around the world
@@hills863: I appreciate your well-written response. Correct. The USA's enthusiasm for football/soccer wanes, which cannot be used for social *butterflying* at the workplace.
Refereeing in general across all professional leagues in England is at its worst I think it’s ever been. The standard of officials is so far below acceptable levels it’s frightening. Nothing will happen though as the referees club are too protected and have too much ego to change anything. It’s a disgrace.
How unfortunate were we? Decisions going against us in the 1st half to then playing with 9 men and then losing the game right in the end. And now PGMOL with their dumb statement. I feel sick right now man 😫😫😫
Var didn't fail to intervene. Even VAR knew it was onside but they relayed the information as "stick to your decision". Unfortunately the on field decision was offisde so the VAR in big screen showed it's offside even though the VAR knew it's onside.
I said this from the start . The VAR team needs to be a separate entity and personnel that has no association with premier league refs at all, on the pitch and off .
The fact that even spurs fans are openly admitting the chaos means soemthing. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the opposing team do that. The beautiful game is well and truly finished
Don't want the game ruined thats why. Spurs fans know what its like the be screwed by bad refs, as do most other fans too. Just want a fair game. That could of easily been a match of the season yesterday with two teams that love to attack, instead we got to watch a team struggle to break down a 9 man wall and a stupid offside call.
VAR is definitely involved in some form of match fixing. This brings me back to last year's nightmare with Arsenal against Brentford where the PGMOL said after the match that VAR simply didn't put the lines down for a blatant offside by Brentford. The PGMOL themselves should be investigated by an independent party.
Being a Liverpool fan, what happened last night was so wrong. Leaving aside the red cards and everything else, when you clearly do not get a goal for an onside goal it ruins the game entirely. Please take action against the corruption.
This 'offside' was the worst decision of the match, it was beyond ridiculous. I've just watched old MOTD videos on RUclips which had similarly appalling offside calls, and that was way before VAR was introduced. Jota should not have been on a yellow before the second one (which incidentally WAS a booking). Jones though I felt deserved a red. The challenge was dangerous and going over the ball in a 50/50 like that will often run the risk of a potential leg breaker. That one call out of several bad ones doesn't remotely excuse the officials though.
@@Nightopian1982 That's true. But besides, the offside which was clearly blatant, I can clearly recall many incidents where everything was favoured towards Spurs. I don't remember a single 50 50 decision going our way. Udogie who was suggesting a yellow card for Jota was also on a yellow himself, so he should have been sent off as well.
@@anipal029 I watched the game, but I'm sure there were a couple that went Liverpool's way. I'm sorry, but we've had this for years now in football, with home teams getting favourable decisions. It shouldn't take this match for something to happen with VAR. Like I said, the trouble now is that they'll be expected to apologise after every game where there are wrong calls. I've watched United games over the past couple of years where we've also been robbed, but I've not been on here demanding apologies or replays. Why? Because it's a bit rich coming from a fan of a big club. I just wish they'd never bothered with VAR. Football was far more free-flowing and exciting before.
@@NankerPhelge65 Wow, I mean if only every case was so easy to reach a verdict on, eh? You come up with a theory, and that's it, no evidence required, it's precisely what you say happened. You seriously think Liverpool aren't at the forefront of the football establishment's minds in this country? Believe me, I hate what City have transformed into, and what's happened to top flight football as a result, but 'case closed'? Please.
How? There is only one explanation that I can come to. Man City lost, so Liverpool had to lose as well. If you spend £1.5 billion building your team, a few million making sure the officials are on your side is chicken feed. The Premier League officiating makes Barcelona look honest.
As a spurs fan When it got ruled out I was genuinely In shock and disbelief. I kept thinking ‘nah that’s clearly on, they’ll bring it back/look again in a couple of minutes when the ball goes out’. VAR has come under so much pressure when it comes to ‘subjective’ calls like handballs, but this. This is its BREAD AND BUTTER. Awful day for football.
Once Spurs take the free kick the game can't be stopped which is why they tell players to wait. We are the only country with VAR that still use it so poorly.
The VAR teams need to be retrained. It's absolutely ridiculous. A few years ago at my place of work, my entire department was replaced because our Quality Assessment results wasn't up to scratch. As a team, we made nowhere near as much mistakes as VAR seem to make. There seems to be at least 1 embarrassing mistake every gameweek. VAR are getting away with mistakes far too often. Gary Neville is right. They need to use the correct camera angles. If that means football clubs are forced into putting in more cameras to cover more angles, then so be it.
How do they do offside technology in champions league and FIFA World cup? Because i swear its like some computer image that perfectly detects it, in the premier league it looks like some guy is drawing lines on a computer himself?
So sad PGMOL is always sinking Liverpool and giving advantages to Liverpool rivals. Last season VAR won City the league by not awarding everton a clear penalty when Rodri handled the ball in the penalty area. Now out of six games this season, liverpool had been clearly cheated in three different occasions,this is absurd
I was fuming last year with some decisions against Arsenal. They did Liverpool dirty here. I saw during the game that this could never have been offside.
Brentford game changed the title race. Has happened to Liverpool when competing with City before too (Kompany knee high tackle on Salah, Jota penalty+Kane red at Spurs, Rodri handball). If you get too close to City, suddenly you get decisions against you and for them.
I feel so bad for Liverpool I was celebrating in such a disrespectful way as if we deserved it and give Liverpool the point we don’t want points that we don’t deserve
Tbh not bothered losing to Spurs. I hope you guys beat Man City and win a trophy soon. However yes very unfair on Liverpool. Good luck spurs for the rest of the season
Villa fan, no sports fan here. As there is such a blatant error on VAR part, we should have what they have in the NFL. Your allowed 3 challenges per team, if you challenge a decision and it’s correct in your favour ( player wasn’t in an offside position etc ) you keep your 3 challenges. If the decision goes against you, you lose it! Have 3 decisions per half. What’s the worst thing that could happen is a delay of play. It is going to be worse if these decisions keep getting made, with no immediate response or comments from match officials and managers, coaches and players get fined for questioning the decision!! These decisions are costing matches. They are going to add up to making the difference between winning or losing on winning or losing lifting a title or relation! I am sure most fans would rather it came down to 90 minutes every weekend rather than repeated unexplained very questionable decisions!! Why not have former players or coaches with the VAR to help in making decisions?
City were robbed at ot its nit a case of city getting the decisions is incompetence but in the other hand how many times have spurs been getting all theses decisions
Pathetic Sterling pen the 2021 2022 season, rodri obvious pen,arsenal vs city debacle the same season,arsenal getting robbed against Brendford for the SAME freaking reason as today,Ws i an convinced city is involved
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There is zero excuse to get offsides wrong, this isn't arbitrary handball or red card issues. You have the lines and the tech, this is not acceptable. Literally in shock listening to that statement.
They have ex ManUtd player Howard Webb in charge…. So no shocker
FACTS.. there should be investigated for match fixing.. this coming from an Arsenal fan.. its all BS..
I noticed VAR missed a penalty for Manchester United today also when a Crystal Palace player casually knocked the ball out of play using his hands 🤦♂😂
Exactly, offsides are well-defined unlike certain types of fouls which can be subjected to some kind of interpretation that will result in different judgement being passed.
As you have mentioned; they have the lines, the tech and (I shall add on) the luxury of time to do the check but somehow all these came to naught.
It’s a disgrace, completely agree
It’s one thing making bad, subjective decisions, but when it gets to the point that even with VAR these refs are just blatantly wrong, something has to be done
Why weren't liverpool fans calling this out a few years ago when VAR was helping them out. Oh wait......
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerhahaha get a grip
They're manipulating angles over in the VAR room. Its probably worse than we think when it comes to match fixing and "errors"
theres no accountability with the refs
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerGive one example of PGMOL admitting an error that benefitted Liverpool. I'll wait
Im an Everton fan but this is utterly unacceptable. Games have such high stakes these days and they are constantly being determined by the boys club. It's either clear corruption or utter incompetence. A week suspension doesn't cut it. Whoever was in charge of VAR there should be sacked. There's incidents like this nearly every week because these clowns can't do a job that 90% of the public could do better.
Respect from a Red to a Blue, your comments are very much appreciated.
In a city where the family rivalry has somewhat changed to one where there is anger and distaste, it is nice to know there are some fans out there that can see through the corruption and offer a fair and unbiased point of view. We saw a horrendous decision last year in the City v EFC game. Their lies and corruption are affecting the majority of teams in the PL (it seems one team gets away with everything though). Brown envelopes are being pushed about, slid under doors and people are being bought all over the place. I hate to say it but these FPP charges against City and Everton, I reckon City will walk with a minor fine but Everton, they'll throw the book at because there's a very strange agenda and it has to be manipulated to benefit the objective. It's wrong and unjust. Something has to change because this whole league is a disaster snowballing out of control.
It's both. The failure to address the incompetence is corrupt.
There should be a check on their bank accounts too
i'm a spurs fan, couldn't of put it any better.
Just the grass cut line shows it.
I can't be the only one who laughed harder each time that Neville said, "Oh No."
Was cracking up 😂
You definitely weren't, it was funny.
But he was right, atrocious decision.
If he is on the same page with LFC... you see it is this serious!
lol....like someone died
VAR needs to take the rugby approach, clear and open communication from the refs needed going forwards.
It wont make a difference. What happened when Marco Silva was showing screens to prove city's goal was offside?
If they did that, PGMOL would get exposed. Of course it will never happen.
Absolutely. Rugby gets this spot on. Football is living in total denial that it's poorly implementing a system purely because of ego
But if we take that sensible approach how are the officials gonna make a killing in bribes?
Thank you, been saying this for years
I'm a Liverpool fan and Neville muttering throughout the first 10 seconds actually made me laugh for the first time this evening 🤣
God, he's unbearable...
Same lmao, absolutely sent me with the oh no
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You know it's bad when Gary Neville makes those kind of noises.
Gary Neville actually supporting Liverpool is a massive shock. If he can see it, then a blind man can.
He's not supporting liverpool he's speaking the truth up neville come on give him credit
objective fact should come before support for any club
@@admiralseabass8993 Thus is Neville, a man famous for his hate if Liverpool. Up Neville for this.
It's a well known fact to people who know him that Neville hates City with a passion, he absolutely loathes them.
@@JTScottOfficial but he isn't calling for change,he says the same guy should do VAR duty after 3 games out
Even as a Spurs fan, whose team benefited from the decision, this is terrible and unacceptable.
Just wondering, what is your opinion of the red card? I feel that it shouldn't have been one.
@noobxp1683 Red cards are subjective. Some people will sit on either side of the fence when it comes to those decisions. My opinion is irrelevant. Liverpool fans have no right to complain about red cards/fouls/penalties as they've been on the benefiting end of many of those decisions, in my opinion they shouldn't have been awarded a penalty in the first minute of the champions league final. But again, that's subjective. The disallowed goal, however, is not. That goal should have stood. And the fact that it didn't because play had started and its against protocol to go back and fix things is absurd. As a fan of the game it just doesn't sit right.
I'm a Spurs fan as well and I think this sucks. It's not good for the game. The VAR and his assistant need sacking straight away.
@@aizenangelFinally some non emotional football fans, very very bad mistake from the VAR team and the ref for not stopping the play or even waiting for the ball to go out. but its all should've, could've, would've. onto the next game for us Liverpool fans.
As an LFC fan I never thought I'd say this. Nice one Gary for calling the corruption, no sorry wrong word, incompetence out on air. PGMOL should be investigated immediately.
Couldn't agree more, there is something rotten within the pgmol and there should have police investigations years ago.
it's possible to be a massive fan of a club, and still see things like this objectively
As a Spurs fan, I really don't think it's corruption, just terrible decision making and lack of competance from VAR. The thing is, if every club's fanbase is calling it out, it can't be corruption, it comes around to negatively effect everyone, even we have had terrible decisions this season. Serious change needs to be done, as it's just terrible for football going forward, means no one is happy and even Spurs fans like me can't properly celebrate a win tonight.
But watching the game live he said it was offside even after watching the replay
Yeah but Gary at the time says it's offside himself!
This is actually highly unacceptable. Bad decisions like these are gonna cost teams like Liverpool later on in the season. This sort of incompetence needs to change.
VAR already cost us a title when Everton were robbed of a penalty when a city player clearly handballed it a few seasons ago.
And they could cost teams like Tottenham.
Match fixing is big money
Surely the game should be replayed now? It's a disgrace. Could cost Liverpool the league again.
@@TheUltimateMueller I would suggest that but it'd cause fixture issues.
Absolutely disgraceful. I’m not a Liverpool fan, but something needs to be done by this. Absolute insanity
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Why they said no to the semi automated offside system they use around Europe I will never know because that's how smooth, quick and accurate offside checks should look
England is a disgrace to European football
Fully agree. VAR officials need investigating.
@@shivutd Because British people are "special" and need to do everything differently.
Garry Neville
“Ohhh noooos” in the first 15 seconds are quality 😂😂😂
Neville quietly saying 'oh no' in the first 10 seconds is hilarious, can we please get him to do this during every news bulletin.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
VAR needs its own independent body to review what’s supposed to be an independent body. Absolute joke in this day and age. The PGMOL statement isn’t enough. This match fixture should be replayed and come with heavy, independent fines for the officials. This is coming from a fan of neither clubs. Embarrassing.
Funny how this performance comes after city's loss to wolves. I'm sure Hooper was aware of what that meant for the table leading up to this game....
@@timeisontheessence Cry more.
I agree. VAR that can run rampant without any fear of punishment is too open for corruption or foul play.
The worst of it is that any club can get on the bad side of VAR and all they get is an acknowledgement of error from PGMOL. They need to adhere to their own rules and pay fines for their errors.
It's easy handing out fines to coaches and players for speaking out of emotions during a game. But somehow they're free of judgement when our English league is infamous for the worst officials and refereeing body.
So comical.
Gaming commissions regulate crooked tables. This sport should not be gambled on
@@EliasRoyyou must be 13.
an adult understands the importance of pointing out errors. no matter what club it effects.
next saturday its your team.
and youll be crying.
You know something is really, REALLY wrong when even Gary Neville openly defends Liverpool.
Even as a Spurs fan, I cant stand idle when something this bad happens. This wasnt a close one, this was a guy clearly onside.
What are you doing then?
Never thought I'd say this but I feel for Liverpool here. Shocking decision 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Zayden842OK
This decision against Liverpool fills me with absolute joy
@@stephenkent4618but still wrong
The only plausible explanation is that VAR must have thought that the offsides call from the linesman was made before the goal was scored. If that were the case, then yes, VAR can't intervene because the play is dead at the point of the call, which would have been before the goal was scored. But, that's not what happened here. The linesman waited to call offsides AFTER the goal, which is what linesmen are told to do so that the entire play is reviewable by VAR.
@@Darwizzy_TheGoat-LFConce in so many years refs favoured someone else instead of Liverpool
I watched this game from Australia and never in my entire life have I witnessed such blatant corruption in a football match. A match decided not by the two teams but by both onfield officials and disgraceful VAR. Liverpool were never going to win this game if they had anything to do about it, and so it turned out.
I for one wont be watching the PL until bank accounts are checked as part of a full investigation.
Only if people stop paying for subscriptions will this improve - hit them where it hurts...
watch Spurs vs Brighton from last season. Also a referee shitshow, that favored spurs
Who the hell would be paying for tottenham to win a game 😂😂😂
@@RBernsCarterArabs or Jews
Corruption for sure!
As a West Ham fan I feel for Liverpool here, what a total disgrace. It’s ruining the game we all cherish and love. Some serious investigation is needed! Never thought I’d enjoy a Neville interview either 😂.
Replay the game
It's not ruining the game, the refs without VAR get these offside calls wrong all the time. But the fact they still sometimes getting it wrong with VAR is genuinely embarrassing.
It's also unacceptable for players to be diving, cheating, faking injury etc
I am grateful to see fans of other clubs speaking up for Liverpool. Mad respect for you guys. If these errors can happen to Liverpool, it can happen to you guys too. I would hate to watch a rigged match. I rather watch a match lost badly than a match lost due to atrocious errors.
It’s Liverpool this week but it will be their clubs next week with these officials
It's been every club at some point, and it will continue to cost us all games. Could you imagine your club getting relegated over a VAR decision like Liverpool yesterday?
@@cyandrix it has been every club bar Man City who always seem to get away with several things and rarely have anything go against them. They are also charged for cheating financial fair play and it's gone quiet. kinda make sense
@cyandrix8264 I understand it affects every club but to see so many people from other clubs coming to defend something that happened to other clubs is heartwarming.
@@cyandrix VAR decisions towards the end of the season, what can possibly go wrong?
Some costly mistakes, perhaps.
As a Utd fan I never believed Liverpool fans when they said the league was rigged for City’s favour. But after city losing today I wondered whether something would happen to favour them and it was so painfully obvious with that Diaz disallowed goal. Everyone could see he was on by about a foot and the skipping over it so quickly without even drawing lines screams of corruption at the highest level
Its not a mistake, its pure corruption.
EXACTLY
This happens alot with city, whoever threatens them gets bad decision it happened to arsenal last season, Liverpool the years before that. The only consistent thing about the refs is how the 'poor decisions' favour oil run clubs
They have always been corrupting this League and it will always affecting Liverpool it’s so sad put what can we do ??
Is the same league that are charging man city with 115 offences zzzzzzz
I'm not even a Liverpool fan, I'm a City fan and that was absolutely unacceptable from these officials. Who's to hold them accountable for stuff like this cause if there isn't any action done, then how is it fair on the teams that are disadvantaged?
if you're a city fan, better don't say anything, because the Arabs are behind these decisions, so your team has a chance to win the title again. Remember Rodri's handball? VAR said nothing. Please... 🤫
This is where rivalries need to be put aside! If pgmol want to redeem themselves that little bit? Give spurs and Liverpool a point simple!
Screw all of that. If they are admitting they could not officiate the match correctly the whole match should be void. Simple. There are plenty of Non-EFL-FA-Europe mid week available fixtures to rework this and other already botched matches. Make an open admission of failure and say "The matches were not played with fairness at the heart of the sport, so replay them."@@mymemories925
@@mymemories925 cos they have to pleasw the bookies n betting follk
Bro I'm a spurs fan and we dont deserve the win at all we were playing poorly against 9 man, Liverpool defensive was really good tho but the VAR decision was unacceptable, and I cant believe my fellow spurs fans still celebrating this win...
As an arsenal fan it's just unbelievable at this stage, you can see even without the lines that he's onside, there is no excuse. And don't even get me started on that referee today.
At least it’s not just us getting these ridiculous decisions…. Funny how it happens to City’s rivals….
Same here .he was card happy had a mare
What if you weren't an Arsenal fan...?
I'm a red and have said this for a few seasons now...I don't care if it's a decision against my own team, as long as it's correct. I'm starting to believe that there are big bets going on, on these games somewhere in the world!. Look at yourselves against Brentford last season.
@@TwistedSoul2002 what are you yapping about? The Wolves player who scored the winner should’ve been sent off.
I'm not a Liverpool fan. At all. But this is a disgrace. How the hell can we as fans ever forget this moment? VAR is a liability and a complete joke! I feel so bad for Liverpool and their fans. I would be fuming if it eas my club. That's completely unforgettable and unforgiveable. Fire that ref right now!
The VAR official (Darren England) & assistant VAR (Daniel Cook) have apparently been stood down from their appointments at games today.
@@781David Thank god for that.
@@781David Two game suspension is not good enough. Darrent England needs to be sacked. Without refs being held accountable for their actions, nothing will change.
Premier league just Lost all credibility for me today not watching any more games
@@781Davidjust for 2 days mate then back to fixing matches. !!
I’m not a Liverpool fan. But I don’t like this happening because it can and will happen to your team eventually as well. Typically the linesman is told to NOT flag offsides and allow VAR to reviews it after the goal. So the fact that it was called offsides to begin with was strange. Then without ANY lines you can see it was clearly onsides. This is more then a human error.
That's inaccurate. The linesman is told to hold the flag until play has concluded in order not to affect the play, as he did here.
I'll have to watch the game again, but I don't think the linesman called offsides before the goal was scored. This allows VAR to review it. Had the linesman called offsides before the goal, VAR cannot review it because the play is dead when the offsides is called, which would be before the goal. Therefore, it's not reviewable.
They are corrupt. Simple as that,they knew exactly what they were doing.
...or not doing - human "error". They also knew what they were doing when they presented the Jones tackle still the way they did, and for the length of time that they did, and then only show slow mo footage from just one angle@@terrypage358
Well, already happened to us. Forgot to draw the lines in Arsenal vs brentford last season.
The reason why this is so shocking is because VAR is meant to correct mistakes. How can the group of individuals in the VAR booth collectively get something this simple wrong? It's madness. Fire them and get people who actually have common sense reviewing things.
Howard “ManYoo” Webb should be sacked
@@tf2368United have had similarly shocking VAR decisions go against them too. It’s VAR as a whole that’s a mess not somebody being biased
They did everything correct except for the communication part with the main ref.
Linesman called it offside at first so original ref’s verdict was to disallow the goal. And the VAR booth only said ‘Check complete’ not paying attention that the verdict by the main ref was offside. They should have just communicated it better
I'm saying this isn't a mistake..how can 4 persons in a booth make that mistake..at least one should've looked and made the right decision
Dont be stupid 4 people in VAR , 3 refs and other staff that are supposed to have control ove the game.
This is no mistake , its clear match fixing for the bookies!
A total shame to the epl.
Liverpool disgraced the epl with those two red card challenges.....
@OfficialGobbledyGooker trying so hard mate, you're head must be fried
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change
It seems obvious that you haven't watched the game. @@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
Cancel VAR. it’s a sham. What’s the point in having it if they’re missing it.
As a liverpool fan who has endured losing the league twice by just 1 point, this is totally unacceptable
But you've also benefited from decisions too. This is the biggest problem, the mistakes are happening league-wide. What worries me is that because it's happened in a Liverpool match, there's demand for a huge inquiry, yet why has it taken until this for PGMOL to acknowledge errors? Many of the smaller clubs have had to put up with shocking decisions for years now, and yet the officials and PGMOL stay silent.
They either need to use the rugby TMO approach, or just axe the whole thing, because the money that's being spent for this level of ineptitude is frankly beyond farcical.
@@Nightopian1982liverpool fans are too entitled
@@Nightopian1982 You're missing the point of my comment
@@dplkrtdss9805 Entitlement is speaking up against corruption???
@@adewale8759 the point of your comment being that decisions like this might mean you losing out on the title? Yes, I got that. My point in rebuttal of yours was that it's not only Liverpool this has happened to. We've seen years of decisions going against teams that could be the difference between relegation or not, European places, title races etc. We've also seen a lot of bad VAR calls the past couple of years too.
I'll be honest pal, I think some people are a bit bugged by how far Liverpool are planning on taking this, how much the media are lapping it up, and what exactly PGMOL are going to do further (they've already sacked or suspended one official). It seems there's way more fury and reaction here than any previous instances of VAR controversy. For the record, I totally understand their anger at the decisions, I've been annoyed myself as a fan, but I just don't see what else they want. They aren't going to void the result and/or rescind the cards, so unless there's an overhaul of VAR, we'll be facing similar situations in the near future! By the way, claims of corruption require some kind of evidence of such activity. Incompetence and ineptitude are different things entirely.
Gary Neville just saying “Oh No” through out. 😂😂😂
They have one job to do. That's it. So many errors this season. Who will it be next week. Clubs need to come together on this. The integrity of the game is at stake.
It's really a concern 😟
The integrity of the game is 100% compromised
@@davyprendergast82 non conformity
It's football, there is zero integrity. Winning is all that matters.
Even as a spurs fan this is unacceptable because it could literally happen to anyone. Games should be won fair and square. Sorry liverpool fans.
It's not your fault buddy nothing to be sorry for... the refs need to be sorry.
Well played lad 👏 for the benefit of the beautiful game the corruption needs to end, may the best team win
points can still be split. if its against the rules. change rules
@@nourishcherish9593the match should be replayed
@@uzairjhd9685 thats not possible. Not easy as it said. Splitting points is the remedy for now
The amount of money being thrown around in premier league football and they can't seem to get simple onside/offside decisions correct with in three match officials watching the game in person and room of officials using VAR, it's truly horrendous. Not a Liverpool fan, but this kind of error needs to have serious consequences for those involved.
It's amazing how they find new ways to mess up the use of what should be a very helpful tech every week. This was certainly a low point but not the only one
I’m a spurs fan so I’m obviously happy with the result but that offside not being checked by VAR is an absolute shambles and a disgrace to the premier league
@@chandraswaroop2061 Why such a comment ? He was being honest.
@@chandraswaroop2061 weird flex we ain’t got one mate not that that was anything to do with what I said but ok 👍
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change now
You shouldn't even be referring to it as offsides because it wasn't. Period.
@@symoredollaz610Grow up mate. I'm a Liverpool fan but nice to see a spurs fan call it out. We're all happy until it affects our team and it will affect every team because every single ref is crap.
Apology not accepted
Sincerely,
All Liverpool fans.
Scousers are so friendly aren't they......
Apology and a point, accepted.
Or a rematch.
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerYes.
Do tell me, which fanbase(s) do you think would accept such an insignificant “apology” after being disadvantaged in such absurd circumstances?
A little more will be needed if this is to change for good, from all teams being affected by this
have a day off karen@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
this wasnt robbery, this was downright corruption. The Jones tackle was never a red card, Diaz was clearly onside even to the naked eye, Jota's first yellow wasnt even a foul let alone a yellow. These refs need to be sacked and this game needs to be replayed, theres no other way around this. A serious invesitgation needs to be done here by an independent body. Imagine the scenario we lose the league by 3 points, we can clearly say the refs have cost us the league and also money.
Only corruption when it's against Liverpool......
Simon Hooper is also the ref that didn’t give the pen for Wolves, how can you make two ‘clear and obvious errors’ in 7 games and have nothing happen to you
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerno, not just against liverpool. any football fan with half a brain can see it happens constantly
Steady lad 😂 "corruption" is a strong word
@@JonasRodgerslol jota first yellow the spurs player tripped on his own
The “oh no” was killing me😂
When Neville is defending Liverpool you know it’s not right
I don't think he was defending Liverpool per se. He was calling it for what it was, a combination of shocking decisions which ruined the game.
As an Arsenal fan, Liverpool losing would clearly benefit us,but Liverpool were clearly robbed and these shows were these is the only league were an obvious corruptions can be stated as a mistake,and it's all in favour to support one team.
who?
I still think Liverpool finish above Arsenal
@@miur4134ofc man city
@@miur4134 The very obvious club, the one and only mancity
@@foksmashdoor2272Literally, not the point that anyone was making.
I'm sorry but it felt like the officials wanted Liverpool to absolutely lose today because every decision went against them. The red cards you can sometimes expect but the VAR decision felt like blatant cheating because of how quick it was checked.
We got Taxed 😂
Video assistant tax?
I thought Wolves was bad ( 9 yellows & 2 reds not given ) Then i saw this . When a ref is crap , we expect that like the Wolves game he was shocking but video refs have the time to look at it analyse it .Id ask for a replay of the game & wipe those 2 red cards as Null & Void
And the fact that both the commentators and pundit panel at half time and after the game just brushed over it like it was nothing... Like they were all in on it from the higher ups...
Boo! You should have left it as 'VAT'
As a chelsea fan, a disgrace. The referees in this country are abysmal. A game suspended won't do nothing. Its just a day off for the refs, Suspend them for the season or sack them. This refeering can really affect a title race but the PGMOL won't take action. Absolutely insane how they didn't see that was onside with all the tech that we have in VAR. People say VAR is the problem, but no, it's the referees. They're either bias or they aren't good enough. Disgraceful.
They won't as they share the same lodge.
The refs taking the goal to VAR was already bad enough, but a real kick in the balls was the fact that THE LINES WEREN’T EVEN PUT ON THE SCREEN
Match fixing
😂 tell yourself whatever you need to mate 😂
@@tims5268he’s not telling himself it it’s just true
@@tims5268 everything I said literally happened in the game, did you even watch it?
@@tims5268drop your address mate ill tell you something in person
Absolutely outrageous, is inconceivable that these types of "errors" are happening in the EPL. Luis Diaz was clearly onside.
English PL refs are the worst in the world. They have no business officiating anything. This is a clear example.
@@iu2 Spot on!
The only "human error" was taking the huge bung. That offside was the most corrupt decision I have seen in fifty years of watching football. It makes me wonder if there is any point continuing to watch the game. None of the match officials should ever work again. It absolutely stinks.
@@MichaelPepera Thank you!
@oldbloke135 I have to disagree on one point. Drogba goal for Chelsea at United that won them the title was the most blatant offside ever he was 2 yards offside and for some reason lino never saw it😮
Thank you Gary...as a Liverpool fan i have to say this...firstly, i have never seen so many cards thrown around like confetti before, secondly, Diaz was onside, third and last....i took longer blowing my nose than the VAR took to make that decision... it's atrocious.
I'm a man utd fan and i think you were robbed yesterday. Really awful stuff. Rivalry between teams is great but yesterday was about something sinister and nasty that will have a horrible impact on the game for all of us. . Klopp is a legend, you lucky so and sos! 😀
@@kangamangus95 cool man... was a bad day in someones office today, especially with Klopp on the other side of it 😂
The red cards were justified in my opinion (1st one was a shocker), however that offside decision was genuinely appalling. The officials have no accountability, and had the nerve to put out a "we did an oopsie, hihi" statement
@@cyandrix I wasn't happy with Jota's playing at all..you could see Salah playing more of the go too position centre forward after Jota went off.. that second red was unintentional but worthy of the red ....we as Liverpool deserved at least the draw...quite unfortunate not to get the win...if Diaz goal was allowed it would have changed everything..just my opinion.
The got a promise for future riches from Mansour in UAE to destroy Liverpool's title race
As a Spurs fan I feel for Liverpool here. I was sitting there watching at home and thinking this is surely going to be overturned and the goal awarded, as everyone and their dog and gran could see Romero's leg playing Diaz onside, with the pitch lines helping in addition.
A serious reveiw needs to happen.
I will even say I thought the red card and 1st Jota yellow were harsh.
I have always been a fan of VAR to ensure fairness and the right calls are made that would normally slip through and have massive consequences, but if VAR is then incorrectly overturning decisions, or not intervening correctly, then get rid and go back to trust in just the officials on the pitch.
Personally I want to know that my team has won fairly, and not just for draws and loses.
The way Klopp conducted himself was fantastic. And im glad that FOOTBALL fans, regardless of who they support, can see the obvious injustice in this instance.
okay so they have acknowledeged that they made a mistake, but what's the point? are they gonna get their points back? how is it gonna give back what liverpool were robbed off? Honestly, every single time this happens, they just apologize thinking its all solved, and then go on to repeat the same things again. If you aren't gonna give the points or have the match replayed n stuff like this, why can't you just fix your system. This is honestly so frustrating and tiring man, just kills the love of the game.
The only way to fix VAR it is to allow coaches to challenge a call like they do in the NFL. It forces the ref to look at the monitor and make the decision.
That will mean Klopp crying every game if a decision goes against him.....
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker surely they would only allow them to have a set amount of challenges. Say three like they do in cricket (if I'm not mistaken)
Dude. We have the technology that no one would ever argue anything over it. Look at how they do it in World Cup and UCL. They just prefer this for corruption
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookereach team could have a certain amount of reviews
If the review is proves to be correct they don’t lose the review
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerthis isnt just going against him. The pgmol came out and said they messed up. Anybody would be upset, especially during potentially one of the biggest games of the season
One of the worst decisions I've ever seen in my life. Absolutely disgraceful!!
your right, it wasn't even close.
Keep in mind title races the last few years have come down to ONE POINT. This embarrassment could have huge, embarrassing repercussions, on the title race.
Yep, they allowed Rodri's handball against palace, costed lfc the title.
Edit: Not palace but Everton
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change
Before i hated the super league. But like you said in your comment , since the PL is more corrupt than American politics, I think the super league should exist. Also, if more decision goes wrong to any team I’m not watching the PL. I think other fans should do the same.
It’s supposed to.
@@zayanislam6497Just watch illegal streams
Even as a spurs fan, i couldnt understand how this wasnt onside, we got lucky tonight, gotta give Liverpool credit from there performance tonight
Cheers lad with 9 men i thought we did sendational to not let any in
This match was fixed....Dodgy refreing
Absolute disgrace, we were robbed of a clearly ONSIDE GOAL
Cry more 😂😂😂.....
Was offside so cry
@@cool068 should’ve gone Specsavers mate
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker sorry, we are still top 4 in the table unlike chelshit
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker15th, 1 billion spent, CRY MORE 😂😂😂
Can we also talk about both of the unnecessary red cards? Two men down, an onside goal disallowed is completely robbery and blatant incompetence. This needs a FULL REVIEW AND INVESTIGATION by a third party because obviously PGMOL can't get it right.
Disgraceful.
If it takes 2 red cards, a wrongfully disallowed goal, a corrupt referee and an own goal to beat Liverpool we will achieve great things. YNWA
U do realised it was ur self's that got the red cards
So you're saying that you played poor then......
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker I’m saying the refs played poor
All the bad luck we could have had this season...got dished out in one game. That's my glass-half-full take on it, and i still think we can win the league.
"corrupt" 😂😂😂😂😂
Stupidity or corruption.. its one or the other.. and, as in all aspects of life, those two options should leave to an immediate removal of duties for Darren England & Dan Cook (VAR & assiatant-VAR). NO excuses for missed offsides.
Exactly. Any average joe that is this incompetent gets a p45.
This is inexcusable. How can they admit they got it wrong right after the game? Why not take the extra 30 seconds and actually check it? Amazing this is the third or 4th time they've come out after a Liverpool game and said they made a mistske. Its getting to the point where it has to be on purpose
Of course it is on purpose. City have an infinite amount of money and the PGMOL want to share in the wealth. The game is totally corrupt.
This hurts, so much. It’s hard to put into words but it’s bittersweet because after last season I saw heart in the team. That was beautiful. 9 against 11 and they didn’t have a way through. YNWA
I am annoyed as a Spurs fan, of course I am happy for the 3 points but I wanted us to get them by winning the game without interference, it would've been a great game with lots of goals. But it was ruined, the Red was also harsh... I want to see my teams improvement when playing vs a good side, sadly that didn't happen. This just makes all fans on all sides upset (Liverpool fans the most) but Spurs fans will also feel like others will see Spurs as a "lucky team" or a team that didn't deserve the win when we might have deserved the win if the full game was played normally.
who cares what matters is the 3 points
Fair play. All fans should be very concerned about officiating mistakes today, esp var for offside.
@@iknowball1301 No what matters is that the rules are adhered to, because the people they say oh just take the points. Your team will be next and then you'll be furious
@@iknowball1301Seriously that's what you gonna say 😳
Should be embarrassed being a spurs fan against 9 men at home with wrong officiating
I was shocked that VAR upheld the offside for that Diaz goal. They didn't even bother to use the lines. It has to be corruption, nothing else can explain that.
They didn’t even check it.
What legit bothers me as a Liverpool fan is that VAR did not even bother placing the lines to CHECK if its offside as is stipulated by there rules and protocols. The technology is fine its once again the HUMAN error that is the common theme with all these errors!
What do they even get paid for? Stealing a living.
Mate they had the still image up for less than 4 seconds its a joke!! Knew it was coming tho that oil money at work
Spurs have oil money now?@@Crazytimewins
@@Crazytimewins "oil money at work"
Whose oil money? Please explain.
Now you know how we felt as Arsenal fans during the Brentford draw last season
We as football fans, of whichever club want correct decisions. It doesn't matter who you support. Integrity and honesty is better than admitting you made a mistake.
Even Spurs fans including myself know that was obviously onside. Yeah, we got the win, but didn't deserve it. When something like this ruins one of our games in the future, I'll be livid. It's just not good for football, no matter if my team wins.
It will happen to you sometime in the future. The whole league and football is just pure coruption and it has gotten worse
I hope it happens to you every match forward
didnt deserve it haha they kicked lumps out of us and parked the bus🤣🤣
Liverpool were already down to ten men when diaz scored so probably would of lost anyway🤣🤣@cooltrainerorote2257
the second half was one way traffic 🤣🤣
They did the same thing last year on Arsenal vs Brentford and honestly these apologies are just unacceptable. These decisions impact the teams position on the log in the longrun. NO NO NO!!
The refs are definitely paid by oil money man city
Yep, that Brentford decision would have meant we lost the league by just 3 points !!
I know we messed up ourselves at the end, but even so !
They always do it when City are struggling strangely. 😂
@@andy.m265 it might have changed momentum completely.
@@andy.m265that Brentford game was just before Manchester city. Had Arsenal won that Brentford game they go into Manchester city with a win and greening confidence. Aswell as Arsenal having a disallowed goal against man united at old trafford Martinelli. Had that goal counted im sure arsenal would’ve won that match as they don’t lose from losing positions. That’s 6 clear points VAR cost Arsenal last season and low and behold if you gave arsenal 6 points last year they finish above city with 90 points 😂
This is beyond a joke. I'm a Tottenham fan but any supporter of a Team anywhere can see this is spoiling the game; beyond the jokes about referees being on "someone's side" it's obvious that incompetence is behind it. Can't blame the technology, blame the people controlling it. Criminal.
Respect to you dude. As a red myself, it's heart warming to know there are really decent football fans out there that just want TRUE decisions being made and the game won through the skill of the game and not the corruption behind the scenes.
Even me as a Spurs fan could see that Diaz was onside, didn't need to even look at it twice nevermind having technology to assist you. Don't think Jota should've been sent either. Jones was unlucky with how he landed but i did think it was a red. Didn't learn a lot about Spurs yesterday though, would've much preferred the full 90 to be 11 v 11.
This event can't be put down to human error. They didn't even check it. Everyone who watched the match saw it was too quick. There is VAR and VAR assistant, and neither bothered to check an event as significant as a goal. What possible explanation can they have? They forgot. Said check complete by accident and didn't bother correcting it? The only thing that makes sense at this point is a blatant attempt to affect the result of a match.
Yes sir - logical deduction right there.
match fixing and bet money
So even if VAR was not there, the goal would still have been disallowed because the onfield call was offside... So it was a mistake not some conspiracy to make Liverpool loose the match.
@@someone82453 It's all about a failure of VAR. So the on-field decision and hypothetical scenarios about VAAR not existing are irrelevant.
@@simonsimon325 Bro it was not VAR technological failure but a communication gap between VAR and on field referee. VAR thought the onfield call was goal and he just said "check complete" thinking goal will be given but since the onfield decision was offside, the goal was disallowed and later on when they realised the mistake, nothing could be done as play had moved on.. So it was nothing like they had not checked or they did quickly or in a hurry but a 'human error'
Corruption pure and simple. No excuses for it. Someone is getting paid off for these 'mistakes'.
It's far more likely it's actually a human error. Humans make errors all the time, even massive ones, at all levels of expertise.
I mean why not draw the lines for the offside, first red card fine atleast they checked it (eventhough i totally disagree with the decision)@@mathjoker
@@mathjoker This wasn't a mistake. It was clear corruption. They could ask the ref to review the yellow card for Jones but could not draw even a single line for an offside goal that looked onside to even the normal eye no matter what angle you looked at it. This is NOT a mistake
Gary Neville is an absolutely fantastic pundit. Regardless of bias or preference he speaks the truth and it's quite admirable.
He didn't speak the truth about the Liverpool sending offs. Both were justified reds/2nd yellows
lol
@@Michael-fc7nonah jota wasn’t in my opinion first yellow was stupid
@@Michael-fc7no Absolutely not. The straight red is only a straight red to people who have never played the game.
@@Michael-fc7noI agree the red Jones got is a straight red and there's no reason for a player to ever make a challenge like that. However the 2 yellows Jota got in an interval of under 5 minutes were pretty absurd.
First one is a clearly accidental soft contact with the opponents heel (not even his toes, so could hardly argue it's a trip). Something like that is a soft foul, definitely not a yellow.
The second yellow was also pretty harsh. Yes he got none of the ball, but it was a pretty soft low tackle. It's fair to give a first yellow for something like that, but to give a second is overkill.
Mistakes like this not only anger fans but makes fans ask if the fix is in for teams and an apology just doesnt cut it.
This is ridiculous, these sort of decisions can potentially cost teams League titles. Im not even a Liverpool fan but if they lose out by one or two points then these goals could.make all the difference.
Its not an error its corruption. Literally obvious he was onside by lines on the pitch.
The penalty area line is quite different though, the angle is really confusing as well. If I go by the pitch line, then sure, onside. But pitch lines aren't "official", so to speak. Otherwise? Who the hell knows?
@ondrejturecek2850 the pitch lines aren't official but they are 100% straight. The penalty area line isn't in question here. Its obvious he's onside either way.
@@ondrej1893 you are watching a video explaining they have released their official statement saying it was onside and you’re still trying to argue it could’ve been offside? 😂
Gary’s “oh noe” is golden, NPC vibes 😂
Apparently the VAR thought the goal had been given, so when they checked and saw the player was onside and said check complete, they thought they were confirming that it was a legitimate goal whereas they were confirming the actual on-field decision that it was offside. This explains why the check was completed so quickly as it was pretty obvious even without drawing lines that the player was onside.
It still beggars belief that the VAR didn't know that the goal had been called offside, there's clearly a communication breakdown or the VAR wasn't paying proper attention to the game or got confused somehow. And why just say check complete, why not clearly state the outcome of the check. If they'd said the player was onside, or the goal stands, then the on-field ref would have reversed the offside decision.
This is a terrible day for the game. The officials/directors/producers and whoever is behind the scenes running the programming just straight up lied to everyone involved with the match. There has to surely be some sort of match fixing going on. As Gary said, there's been a couple of others the past couple of weeks where the lines and angles just haven't looked right either. Something is really going on behind the scenes.
It's maddening that corruption is so rarely mentioned in instances like this. There's no way anyone who's gone through all the training to become a top level referee, is getting decisions like this so incredibly wrong. It reeks. You can tell the pundits have to bite their tongues when accusing referees of serious wrong doing but it's getting so brazen that Im amazed no one has finally just said it
@@waththecluck 100% spot on 💯💯💯💯
Calm down dear, you're hysterical.
Tepat dan cerdas analisa anda.
It's also unacceptable for players to be diving, cheating, faking injury etc
This is the difference between us taking the league and not, we were very hard done by. Onwards and upwards for Liverpool ❤
Don't be afraid to use your brain@@yupman95 . I'm not even a Liverpool fan, and while the game could have gone either way, that goal would have changed the entire complexion of the game/results.
@@yupman95 Not sure if you can add up but a goal given for liverpool could have seen both teams end up with a point instead of 3 for Tottenham and 0 for Liverpool and could effect league positions at the end of the season.
Can't believe iam agreeing with a Liverpool fan 👍
You stopped crying yet? 😢😢😢
@@dode5064give back the phone to your mum
That’s not unbelievable.. that’s criminal!
When league titles are lost by 1pt at times. It makes it even harder to take.
This applies to all teams
The match was the biggest of the weekend and beamed around the world for millions to see. This is absolutely embarrassing for the league and the brand as a whole.
Agree, billions people around the world can see it
Dear Dean: Dramatic delivery. However, the further away viewers are from the UK -- the less enthusiasm they feel (as in the US, for example), as their office/workplace social butterfly topic system works differently.
@@eddyvideostar you can't bring USA, football not that big there. And if you wonder, PL TV right highest coming from abroad : Asia, Africa, South America, Europe and there are billion spectators around the world
@@hills863: I appreciate your well-written response. Correct. The USA's enthusiasm for football/soccer wanes, which cannot be used for social *butterflying* at the workplace.
Best football league in the world but...but worse referee in the world.
Refereeing in general across all professional leagues in England is at its worst I think it’s ever been. The standard of officials is so far below acceptable levels it’s frightening. Nothing will happen though as the referees club are too protected and have too much ego to change anything. It’s a disgrace.
How unfortunate were we? Decisions going against us in the 1st half to then playing with 9 men and then losing the game right in the end. And now PGMOL with their dumb statement. I feel sick right now man 😫😫😫
Has nothing to do with fortune.
the match should have been 2.2...
Var didn't fail to intervene. Even VAR knew it was onside but they relayed the information as "stick to your decision". Unfortunately the on field decision was offisde so the VAR in big screen showed it's offside even though the VAR knew it's onside.
I said this from the start . The VAR team needs to be a separate entity and personnel that has no association with premier league refs at all, on the pitch and off .
They'd still just get bribed or their kids' lives quietly threatened by shady operatives with ties to sheikhs acting above international law anyway
The fact that even spurs fans are openly admitting the chaos means soemthing. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the opposing team do that. The beautiful game is well and truly finished
Don't want the game ruined thats why. Spurs fans know what its like the be screwed by bad refs, as do most other fans too. Just want a fair game. That could of easily been a match of the season yesterday with two teams that love to attack, instead we got to watch a team struggle to break down a 9 man wall and a stupid offside call.
VAR is definitely involved in some form of match fixing. This brings me back to last year's nightmare with Arsenal against Brentford where the PGMOL said after the match that VAR simply didn't put the lines down for a blatant offside by Brentford. The PGMOL themselves should be investigated by an independent party.
I second this.Howard Webb also needs to be sanctioned
Absolutely my friend, 100%, its ruining the game, every bloody week!!!
We need VAR camera blade runners!
I think it's just pure incompetence. If it was match fixing they'd be so useless at it, it would've been leaked already.
Great to see fans from all clubs coming together on this one. Something strange is going on.
Being a Liverpool fan, what happened last night was so wrong. Leaving aside the red cards and everything else, when you clearly do not get a goal for an onside goal it ruins the game entirely. Please take action against the corruption.
This 'offside' was the worst decision of the match, it was beyond ridiculous. I've just watched old MOTD videos on RUclips which had similarly appalling offside calls, and that was way before VAR was introduced. Jota should not have been on a yellow before the second one (which incidentally WAS a booking). Jones though I felt deserved a red. The challenge was dangerous and going over the ball in a 50/50 like that will often run the risk of a potential leg breaker. That one call out of several bad ones doesn't remotely excuse the officials though.
@@Nightopian1982 That's true. But besides, the offside which was clearly blatant, I can clearly recall many incidents where everything was favoured towards Spurs. I don't remember a single 50 50 decision going our way. Udogie who was suggesting a yellow card for Jota was also on a yellow himself, so he should have been sent off as well.
@@anipal029 I watched the game, but I'm sure there were a couple that went Liverpool's way. I'm sorry, but we've had this for years now in football, with home teams getting favourable decisions. It shouldn't take this match for something to happen with VAR. Like I said, the trouble now is that they'll be expected to apologise after every game where there are wrong calls. I've watched United games over the past couple of years where we've also been robbed, but I've not been on here demanding apologies or replays. Why? Because it's a bit rich coming from a fan of a big club. I just wish they'd never bothered with VAR. Football was far more free-flowing and exciting before.
The wolves / city game was fixed. millions changed hands, prem took its cut and City demanded that liverpool not win. Case Closed.
@@NankerPhelge65 Wow, I mean if only every case was so easy to reach a verdict on, eh? You come up with a theory, and that's it, no evidence required, it's precisely what you say happened. You seriously think Liverpool aren't at the forefront of the football establishment's minds in this country? Believe me, I hate what City have transformed into, and what's happened to top flight football as a result, but 'case closed'? Please.
How can they fail to intervene on an on-side/offside goal decision?! It’s unreal to fail to intervene… var is there for that precisely!!!
How? There is only one explanation that I can come to. Man City lost, so Liverpool had to lose as well. If you spend £1.5 billion building your team, a few million making sure the officials are on your side is chicken feed. The Premier League officiating makes Barcelona look honest.
As a spurs fan When it got ruled out I was genuinely In shock and disbelief.
I kept thinking ‘nah that’s clearly on, they’ll bring it back/look again in a couple of minutes when the ball goes out’.
VAR has come under so much pressure when it comes to ‘subjective’ calls like handballs, but this. This is its BREAD AND BUTTER.
Awful day for football.
Once Spurs take the free kick the game can't be stopped which is why they tell players to wait.
We are the only country with VAR that still use it so poorly.
The VAR teams need to be retrained. It's absolutely ridiculous.
A few years ago at my place of work, my entire department was replaced because our Quality Assessment results wasn't up to scratch. As a team, we made nowhere near as much mistakes as VAR seem to make. There seems to be at least 1 embarrassing mistake every gameweek. VAR are getting away with mistakes far too often.
Gary Neville is right. They need to use the correct camera angles. If that means football clubs are forced into putting in more cameras to cover more angles, then so be it.
Can we get semi-automated offsides in the Prem already
No. They’re way too accurate. It wouldn’t be English football without countless, constant match-changing errors.
@@haventjotaclue facts right here
Nah. You need to make room for corruption. Too much at stake here
Prem was offered it and they turned it down. Worked in the World Cup. Like goal line tech it should be 100% factual and not up for debate
How do they do offside technology in champions league and FIFA World cup? Because i swear its like some computer image that perfectly detects it, in the premier league it looks like some guy is drawing lines on a computer himself?
So sad PGMOL is always sinking Liverpool and giving advantages to Liverpool rivals. Last season VAR won City the league by not awarding everton a clear penalty when Rodri handled the ball in the penalty area. Now out of six games this season, liverpool had been clearly cheated in three different occasions,this is absurd
I was always proud to be a LFC fan but after this match I'm more proud than ever
Whoever was behind VAR last night needs to get sacked, simple as that. No excuse for that, it’s complete incompetency.
Respect to Gary for speaking out for us! Shame to the PGMOL and VAR officer!
This has to stop!! They are killing the game!!
This didn't age well😂
how so?
@@bloomer234
I was fuming last year with some decisions against Arsenal. They did Liverpool dirty here. I saw during the game that this could never have been offside.
When things like this used to happen to Arsenal all the time no one cared lol. Now suddenly Pool and manure Fans crying
This referee should step down a real shame.shame for epl.english referees are bad in decision making but today is worst.
Brentford game changed the title race. Has happened to Liverpool when competing with City before too (Kompany knee high tackle on Salah, Jota penalty+Kane red at Spurs, Rodri handball). If you get too close to City, suddenly you get decisions against you and for them.
@@joachimfigga5995You obviously care more about your team winning than the inherent corruption.
@@thetopfootycoach A lot of truth in your comment.
I feel so bad for Liverpool I was celebrating in such a disrespectful way as if we deserved it and give Liverpool the point we don’t want points that we don’t deserve
I respect you ever so highly
i agree Var gifted us today. on another day liverpool would have thrashed us
You should take your win either way
I know. Spurs are literally a crap club. Always getting favors from the refs.
Tbh not bothered losing to Spurs. I hope you guys beat Man City and win a trophy soon. However yes very unfair on Liverpool. Good luck spurs for the rest of the season
Villa fan, no sports fan here.
As there is such a blatant error on VAR part, we should have what they have in the NFL.
Your allowed 3 challenges per team, if you challenge a decision and it’s correct in your favour ( player wasn’t in an offside position etc ) you keep your 3 challenges.
If the decision goes against you, you lose it!
Have 3 decisions per half.
What’s the worst thing that could happen is a delay of play.
It is going to be worse if these decisions keep getting made, with no immediate response or comments from match officials and managers, coaches and players get fined for questioning the decision!!
These decisions are costing matches. They are going to add up to making the difference between winning or losing on winning or losing lifting a title or relation!
I am sure most fans would rather it came down to 90 minutes every weekend rather than repeated unexplained very questionable decisions!!
Why not have former players or coaches with the VAR to help in making decisions?
They intervine to give a red card but not for a clear wrong offside call. This is awful and there have to be consequences
So it failed to intervene during the offside check but it intervened during the red card check how does that work 🙃
Because we're Tottenham and we own VAR 🤔😂🤣😂🤣🤣
@@Adamslifesentence lol can't wait till VAR stiffs you when you face City 😂😂😂🙃
Funny how these mistakes keep happening to teams that could be challenging City for the title.
Somebody making good use of the Oil money🤨
mate, city were robbed at old trafford last season. Lay off it
City were robbed at ot its nit a case of city getting the decisions is incompetence but in the other hand how many times have spurs been getting all theses decisions
So you're saying city paid the refs to help tottenham😹
Pathetic Sterling pen the 2021 2022 season, rodri obvious pen,arsenal vs city debacle the same season,arsenal getting robbed against Brendford for the SAME freaking reason as today,Ws i an convinced city is involved
Wasn’t a human error. It was on purpose. No one can screw up that bad!!!