PRICE REVEALED FOR THIS BATHROOM REFURB & A few other little PLUMBING jobs

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2022
  • A lot of people ask how I price jobs, what I charge for various jobs/bathrooms etc so I thought I would take you along for a day of looking and pricing jobs, and finishing nailing down a quote to see just how close I was to my “rough guess”
    #plumbing #bathroom #pricing
    Please note, Prices change up and down the country
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  • @MJTiffPlumbing
    @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +38

    JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT TONIGHTS VIDEO....AS IM SURE PEOPLE WILL ASK
    These are prices based upon where i live (Warwickshire) and the prices that i am happy charging my customers, in no way is it a guide to what YOU should charge.
    I hope you enjoyed the video, if so give it a like, get subscribed and drop me a comment below....

    • @rastageordie7338
      @rastageordie7338 2 года назад +5

      Can you not go underneath the bathroom to change the valve surly easier to take the celling boards down then take the bath out tiles etc

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +4

      @@rastageordie7338 it’s a little tricky below as it’s the kitchen with units on the walls etc etc… would struggle to get to the area we would need…. But it’s an option👍🏼

    • @davidtaylor7119
      @davidtaylor7119 2 года назад +7

      Fantastic insight into a jobbing plumber and getting work quoted up.
      Your experience pays dividends.
      For comparison like you asked for on the jobs you looked at I would be at.
      1st job waste pipe £55 -£70
      2nd job shower and Labour £210 - £250
      3rd job bathroom suite £5300 - £5700
      Just out of curiosity did those prices include VAT?
      Think this is a great video for trades but also customers to see what skilled trades charge so what to expect.
      Spot on mark 👍👊🤟

    • @delboy6384
      @delboy6384 2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the heads up, I’m moving into your area real quick!!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +2

      @@davidtaylor7119 thanks mate…. That’s a great comparison…… out of interest where abouts are you??
      That doesn’t include VAT as I’m not VAT registered…😉👍🏼

  • @martinbillingham5585
    @martinbillingham5585 2 года назад

    👍 Thank you again. Honesty goes a long way. Plan to start out on my own soon in a few months. Your videos, when I have time to watch, have been a massive help.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Martin, that’s great me… hope it goes well

  • @jethrohealy3277
    @jethrohealy3277 Год назад +10

    Bathrooms always take longer and cost more than any inexperienced person will ever realise because they are normally a small room that you cannot fit more than 1 or 2 people into at the same time. They also often involve, carpentry, plastering, boarding, tanking, electrics, plumbing, sometimes gas, tiling, painting, underfloor heating, flooring, etc. it is by far the trickiest room in a house to renovate. On top of that everything needs to be water proof, leak free and there are specific zones for electrics. For those guys saying it should be around £4k, you are welcome to do all my bathrooms for me but you will be out of business within a year or 2. Remember that loads of plumbers are self employed so they are not paid when off sick or on holiday and there is still insurance for vans, tools, fuel, etc.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  Год назад +1

      Exactly mate 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @nicotoscani1707
      @nicotoscani1707 4 месяца назад

      am working on a toilet room with a rising damp problem.. removed the skirting and found a bunch of black mould there cos the plaster and insulating barrier had been installed before laying the concrete flooring

  • @poufdaddy326
    @poufdaddy326 2 года назад +12

    Really appreciate this video… no one teaches you about pricing so this is a great help for people just starting out by themselves👍🏼

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it…👍🏼👍🏼

    • @poufdaddy326
      @poufdaddy326 2 года назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing a break down on how you went about pricing the barn conversion would be a good insight with the much larger jobs as well👍🏼…

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      @@poufdaddy326 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @andyfadian
    @andyfadian Год назад +1

    Great video Mark, great to hear you breakdown the work 👍

  • @peterdawson5115
    @peterdawson5115 2 года назад +19

    The pricing, chasing around and getting everything sorted takes so much time people don’t realise, great insight for people, take care, hope you get the job and get the chance to film it. 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Peter…… yep it’s the time people don’t see

  • @alexthomson7465
    @alexthomson7465 9 месяцев назад +4

    These videos are so helpful in more ways that one for a diyer like me. Not only do We learn how things are done, why things happen and how to repair them.. Also the terminology. I had no idea a blending valve existed! Thanks for all the help

  • @englishdave9986
    @englishdave9986 2 года назад +1

    Thanks mate ,I'm just starting out on the bathroom side of things,done many bathrooms but for family and friends and this Is helpful.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Glad you liked it mate👍🏼👍🏼

  • @Tony91177
    @Tony91177 2 года назад +3

    Great video Mark! Easily the best video you have done to date imo!
    Always good to get an insight into what other trades charge and how things are priced up. Keep it up mate! 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate…. Glad you liked it 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @Tony91177
      @Tony91177 2 года назад +2

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Would love more videos like this mate. I’m sure plenty of others would too. You’ll be hitting 50k subs in no time 😉🤙

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      @@Tony91177 thanks mate….. just let me know what you want to see and I will see what I can do

  • @mikegallagher2107
    @mikegallagher2107 2 года назад +1

    really great content mark bang on the button and makes us realise in the valleys how we sell our self short keep up the good vid, as previously said go in through ceiling or thermal image camera as you already know till the next one

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Mike….. costings is all area relevant aswell mate👍🏼👍🏼

  • @samfabela8461
    @samfabela8461 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for this Mark asked for this few weeks ago when u did a video wanting suggestions just shows u appreciate our comments

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Sam…. Glad you enjoyed it.
      Always want to try and give the people who watch a voice and if I can help then I will 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @FishONlures
    @FishONlures 2 года назад +1

    Great video, so helpful and completely understandable. Keep up the good work and videos 👍

  • @sundarali9648
    @sundarali9648 2 года назад +2

    Thanks excellent as always.I’m doing level 2 plumbing . You are a legend

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it👍🏼

  • @becomingaplumber
    @becomingaplumber 2 года назад +2

    Great video mate. Enjoyed this, very thorough process for your pricing. As I am new in the trade and retraining it’s great to get a feel for costs . Subscribed 👍

  • @DEESyt
    @DEESyt Год назад +1

    great well balanced video keep up the good work on pricing these jobs.

  • @kanefoster6939
    @kanefoster6939 2 года назад +3

    Forget about the plumbing, the editing skills are phenomenal! Great Video Mate had me hooked from the intro.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thankyou mate, I really appreciate comments about the editing of my videos as I really do enjoy that part of it and it has to be perfect. I want to make something I would want to watch 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @juliestreet8688
    @juliestreet8688 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant video as always!
    Dont know if it helps but I have twice found a blending valve under freestanding bath next to the waste!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      That’s what I’m hoping for 🤞🏼🤞🏼

  • @norm4260
    @norm4260 10 месяцев назад +5

    If you took the bath tap out, you could potentially thread an inspection camera down the hole along the pipes and see if the mixer valve is close by.

    • @kendom33
      @kendom33 4 месяца назад

      Good idea. Or a thermal camera to trace the pipes

  • @richardsedorski1206
    @richardsedorski1206 2 года назад +1

    Cracking vid very good and very interesting keep up the good work.👍👍👍

  • @russellbaldry5095
    @russellbaldry5095 10 месяцев назад +6

    Totally agree with your pricing….i go in with a mid to high end bathroom refurb around 10-12k. Fully high end £15k upwards. Also would recommend and extractor fan if theres not one there👍🏼

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 2 года назад +2

    Good video and you covered a helluva lot there. You will be relieved to hear I have no questions or novel suggestions (because I have read the other comments😉) - however on that first video with the warm water at the bath - if the thermal imaging camera suggests the thermostatic block is under the tap - then I would suggest a quick up and under is probably worth it even if you have to take down kitchen cupboard(s) - it’s not just about being cost effective it’s also about being time effective.😉👍

  • @jamesclements8659
    @jamesclements8659 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video, really interesting to watch some else pricing. I’d have been in the exact same ball park for the bathroom

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks James….. 👍🏼👍🏼… glad you enjoyed it mate

  • @andrewhayes4914
    @andrewhayes4914 Год назад +1

    Love the window in the bath/shower I bet the neighbours have a great show every morning/night

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  Год назад +1

      If they had neighbours🤣
      It was obviously frosted before it was all handed over 😉

  • @riser41
    @riser41 2 года назад +2

    You could try borrowing a thermal imaging camera may tell you where the hot pipe goes into blending valve then goes colder after then just need to remove a few tiles hopefully? Worth a try. Glad you liked my suction pads ideas for the shower trays in the barn a few months back. Keep up the good vids and prices are good from another plumber 👍🏻

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      I will be using my thermal camera on it…Someone mentioned that earlier and I didn’t even think of it…(it was even in the van)🤣

  • @Plumbingbob
    @Plumbingbob 2 года назад +25

    With the bath I usually tell them that the ceiling below would be the cheapest option as the tiles would probably need to be totally removed and swapped for a near match or complete change.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +4

      Yep, that’s an option….. if it’s even in the floor

    • @Plumbingbob
      @Plumbingbob 2 года назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing yeah that’s the nature of that kind of job though unfortunately

  • @baku1746
    @baku1746 2 года назад +1

    Am learning quite a lot from you m8,stay Blessed 🙌

  • @lukemccaffrey4565
    @lukemccaffrey4565 Год назад +1

    Great Video. Really interesting to see your pricing. Ive done a lot bathrooms over the years and do the whole lot myself. I was around the same price too! Quoted for loads recently where I’ve been £3000more! I’ve quoted for 12days and other guys say it will take 6days only for me to get called out when there new bathroom isn’t working correctly! Builders cutting of vents and piping toilet straight into soil stack is my favourite 🤣🤣🤣

  • @steves1460
    @steves1460 2 года назад +2

    Don’t know if anybody else has commented on this as I haven’t got the time to go through over 300 comments, but an infrared sensor may well show the position of a valve (future job), depending on how much heat is going through the pipe.
    I have just used a Flir unit connected to my phone, to trace pipework in my flooring and it worked surprisingly well. Not particularly cheap, but for a pro you would likely recover the cost fairly quickly and it would save you a ton of hassle!

  • @boris100ish
    @boris100ish Год назад +2

    Great content as ever. Well done you letting us know your pricing there’s more to it than materials and labour. Visit to site costing guarantee etc etc. No shame in charging for what your worth. Cowboys would charge same or more for poor work. Keep up the good work. All the best Pete 👍👍

  • @chrisholt2474
    @chrisholt2474 2 года назад +5

    Hi Mark,
    Another brilliant film, thank you for making this film. Most trades/tradesmen on RUclips appear to be apprehensive
    about discussing their price and how they cost their work/labour etc. This has been a brilliant insight, I understand that
    prices will vary in different areas of the country, like you said in the film.
    The bath tap job sounds like a ball ache, the thermal camera sounds like a good starting point.
    I look forward to the next film, take care, as always, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Really glad you liked it Chris, and yes I thought people would like to see the pricing of some jobs as it’s not usually put out there.
      👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @NAFO_Badger_Brigade
    @NAFO_Badger_Brigade Год назад +1

    Very honest to share the realities of quoting! So many will say can be done cheaper quicker etc but if it was such an amazing deal plumbers would be queuing up to fit bathrooms but they are not!

  • @jonneym
    @jonneym Год назад +4

    7-8k was my guess depending on quality of fittings. This would be for bulk standard fittings. This is why as a landlord I take on most of the work myself only using a plumber and a sparky for speed when necessary and also a Plasterer to skim coat my boarding. Doing it my way the job would take 3 weeks to do and only cost me about 3.2k total. About 1200 for a plumber, 230 plasterer, 400 for sparky installing extraction fan etc the materials being about 1400. My time is obviously free and it would be a good free weeks from start to finish to complete. I expect you would get it done in a week, depending on the plastering

  • @leemarks6622
    @leemarks6622 2 года назад +1

    Spot on, great advice, 👍

  • @MegaShan001
    @MegaShan001 2 года назад +1

    Very informative pal, Top bloke 👍🏻

  • @danieliosub7249
    @danieliosub7249 2 года назад +1

    Well done mate! A new Subscriber here! Keep up the good work 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate and welcome to the channel

    • @danieliosub7249
      @danieliosub7249 2 года назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing
      Thank you!
      Please if i would send you few pictures and explain you through a message vocale,what needs to be done,would u be able to help me quote for a bathroom to be refurbished?

  • @jordancorey
    @jordancorey 2 года назад +7

    Can you do more videos about pricing please. Perhaps pricing smaller jobs too...I.e replacing taps, fitting outside taps etc. Cheers

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      I will do over time I guess….. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @robertmorris5214
    @robertmorris5214 2 года назад +1

    Great content Mark

  • @russelliott4556
    @russelliott4556 2 года назад +1

    Really enjoy your video’s mate

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks Russ, glad you like the content mate

  • @chrispychan4547
    @chrispychan4547 Год назад +1

    Thanks mate.

  • @scotspie501douglas7
    @scotspie501douglas7 Год назад +1

    love your honesty

  • @disklamer
    @disklamer 2 года назад +1

    Good breakdowns, props for being upfront and laying it all out.
    That's a smart move to kick off with the "basic but not cheap" complete package for the bathroom, then see if the client wants upgrades.
    I'm wondering if you give people a timeline of sorts, as in it will take 8 working days or whatever your estimate is?
    Do you work off a daily or weekly price for yourself, that includes all your operating cost, margins etc? Or more directly the number you feel comfortable with (“3000 will make this worth my while”).
    I find the troubleshooting and problemsolving really interesting, I would love to see the follow up on that bath/tap situation - what turned out to be the issue, and where it was all located?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      For a straight forward bathroom I usually allow a 2 week turn around….. never usually go over that

  • @grzegorzkalis918
    @grzegorzkalis918 2 года назад +4

    Another brilliant video. I liked the fact that you did talk about pricing etc. For me it is always a big struggle to price up jobs. Never sure what to charge the labour part. What to price for say: swap inlet valve in toilet and what to charge for boiler straight swap? Materials wise I am not bad but my labour costs I am always shy and underprice myself

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it mate 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @disklamer
      @disklamer 2 года назад +1

      Consider this: "What is a working toilet worth to the customer?" Of course they're happy if it's only 50, but maybe it costs 200? Or even 1000? The client has no idea, so just be realistic. Ask enough that you can comfortably do the job, and give good service. You'll never regret a fair take.

  • @TheDickPuller
    @TheDickPuller 2 года назад +6

    It’s a great idea to ask the customer ‘their budget’ for a job👍👍
    Where lots of guys/gals fail at Estimating jobs is ensure they cover their overheads fully. Advice I was given about 45 years ago; calculate all your overheads & double that figure.
    DON’T GO BY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE CHARGE AS YOUR LABOUR RATE!!! Calculate your own Labour Rate, it’s no hard. Also another lesson I learned early on, look at your material & Labour ‘Mark Up’ in different ways, it can make a big difference to your final total for the job.
    There’s a tendency to add a smaller MU on materials(as Mark said 15-20%), but depending on the ratio of Labour & Material on the job, it can make a world of difference!!
    Thanks Mark👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Exactly right mate……👍🏼👍🏼
      Glad so many people are liking this video, the likes of me and you it comes pretty second nature but hopefully this helped some who are struggling 👍🏼

    • @seanmolyneux6165
      @seanmolyneux6165 2 года назад +2

      Your either a tradesman earning a wage or a business man using your trade to make money. The sooner you realise the latter the better

    • @plumbertime
      @plumbertime 2 года назад

      @@seanmolyneux6165 love that quote. I’m having it 😂👌🏻👍

  • @robshorts
    @robshorts Год назад +1

    Interesting video. I have just renovated my own bathroom which involved moving the bath and the vanity basin to another part of the room so as to accomodate a separate walk in shower. The bath and toilet were in good condition so were reused but the vanity unit was falling to pieces so was replaced and of course there was the need to buy a shower enclosure and tray on top of the tiles, paint flooring and a heated towel rail. I haven't kept a tight tally of the costs but its around 1.5 - 2k. Taken me 3 months of mostly working weekends. Have saved a lot of money doing it myself.
    However I appreciate that it would be a different story doing the same work for as a professional. It's one thing doing it in your own property that you know well, know your requirements. Would be quite another doing the same work in someone else's property that you have never worked on before, having to assess what needs doing and not knowing what you are going to find.

  • @danielarhire1770
    @danielarhire1770 2 года назад +3

    I usually cut the ceiling and fit plastic access panels to any maintenance parts.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Access from underneath is limited but it’s an option👍🏼

  • @rjp666
    @rjp666 2 года назад +1

    Some freestanding taps have a temperature limiting cartridge fitted, it looks almost the same as the one on your flog except it has a red adjustable ring fitted around the blue tooth top of the cartridge, the original installer may have removed it or it could be the cartridge itself is knackered or the incorrect one is fitted.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Exactly why I took this one out👍🏼….. it’s not a temp limiting one and still the temp is low so it points elsewhere…

  • @sadekhamid3165
    @sadekhamid3165 2 года назад +1

    I need to put my price up thanks for that vid

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate, prices are very area dependant buddy

  • @84bexter
    @84bexter 2 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @lickopotamusslurperton1944
    @lickopotamusslurperton1944 2 года назад +11

    It's great to see a plumber explain how pricing a job works. When I was an apprentice, I was always very keen to know everything about learning about how to do the manual side of the job. Working with tools and producing a great job was all that I concentrated on - and I actually became very good at it.
    But, the problem came when I found myself working for firms that were charging the customer the going rate, yet I wasn't earning much more than if I just got a shelf stacking job in Sainburys.
    I did eventually go self-employed, but I was still sub-contracting for massive firms. I did see my pay packet vastly improve when I did this, but the problem I found by doing that, was that when the work dried up, then so did my job. And because I had put all my eggs in one basket I was no better off. Even having a few grand saved in the bank will very rapidly disappear when you can't find a new situation.
    I just wished I'd been able to build up my own business without always being in someone else's pocket all the time.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +2

      I hear you mate, it’s tough and the only way to make good money is by going it on your own, but that comes with pros and cons as we all know…
      What are you doing now??

  • @iancaley2347
    @iancaley2347 2 года назад

    I look at it like this. If any potential customer thinks it's too overpriced, then ask them to source the carpenter, plasterer and electrician. Maybe even floorlayer, tiler, etc. Sorting out other trades in, can be a nightmare!
    As they'd no doubt find : )
    First and foremost, you're a plumber....not a small builder. And if the job requires other trades, then i'd place it in the latter category!
    Interesting video, Mark. Enjoyed watching it. It certainly generated a diverse array of comments, lol.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Ian… yer some great comments and also some interesting ones about pricing. Exactly why I made the video👍🏼👍🏼

  • @pb9926
    @pb9926 2 года назад +14

    I've come across that problem with the bath tap running Luke warm Mark, turned out to be the tap cartridge - it seemed to allowing the cold to run into the hot side. Try turning the hot water off and open the tap on hot only and see if you get cold water bypassing. Worth a try 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Always worth a try 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @andybb
      @andybb 2 года назад

      Me as well, and that was a plastic cartridge. Unusual to put a TMV on the bath and not on the basin, will there be an update on this job

  • @OfficalDidYouKnow
    @OfficalDidYouKnow Год назад

    Hi, love the videos.
    Question - are you fully qualified recognized or are you experienced trained?
    looking to get into the industry but only want to do the intensive course of 1st and 2nd fixing a bathroom suite ect. I'm looking to get into smaller jobs really, just a tick over for through the winter period as we go quiet then.

  • @silentbob2029
    @silentbob2029 2 года назад +1

    Some pillar bath taps have what is basically a ibox in the floor with the thermostatic mixer inside it. Given size of floor plate I’d say it’s that. So try take the tap out first.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate, I did wonder if that may be the case hence taking the valve out to see if it was anything like that.
      Deffo worth a try….👍🏼👍🏼

  • @gezmonder
    @gezmonder Год назад +3

    I'm looking at doing a very similar job on my own bathroom, at around 5k in labour I'm glad I can do it all myself (minus plastering)

  • @dannyp7791
    @dannyp7791 2 года назад +3

    Hey! Regarding bathroom renovation. How's about moving shower position to the opposite end. 1500 X 700mm tray with a 1000mm wet room slab of glass. Rather than a sliding door so no moving parts to go wrong. Alternatively, could go with an 800mm wet room glass with a 300mm flipper on the end, would give more elbow room to get in and out. Fantastic vids 👍 great work.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Yep, that’s an option but the customer wanted a price for a full “cubicle” style.
      I like fitting the flipper screens, think they work well

    • @dannyp7791
      @dannyp7791 2 года назад

      Gotta go with what customer wants mate. I say spot on with those prices 🎯 down on south coast.

  • @leonslater298
    @leonslater298 2 года назад +1

    Here we go, pricing as I watch before you reveal Mark. Sitting here with my son who’s a second year plumbing apprentice and asking him too so he gets a feel for pricing. Repair the soil attach with new boss and inch and a quarter solvent pipe back to basin £180 plus VAT inc materials.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      👍🏼👍🏼….. very similar to my quote

  • @patto2168
    @patto2168 2 года назад

    Job 2, try a FLIR cam buddy run the hot on the basin and bath and try the cam from above and below hopefully you can see a blender from below, also try unscrewing the bath tap from the Mount and pull the tap out from the floor as far as it will go to see if they kinked the hot flex. Just a thought buddy, top vid👍.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate, had a thermal camera on it in a follow up video… still no joy

  • @michaelangus1195
    @michaelangus1195 2 года назад +1

    Go from underneath to find that blender mate then get the plasterer to repair make good might be a good shout Iv had that before

  • @PlumbingMaintenance
    @PlumbingMaintenance 2 года назад +1

    Great video this has really helped me as I’ve started going out on my own. Really appreciate you taking the time on these videos. Do you have any advice for someone starting out on there own. I don’t want to be under selling myself.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate, glad you like the content.
      Advice would be work hard and build up a good name for yourself. Be on time

    • @PlumbingMaintenance
      @PlumbingMaintenance 2 года назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Thank you. Look forward to new content also any tools that you would recommend pricey or cheap don’t matter

  • @PlumbLikeTom
    @PlumbLikeTom 2 года назад +5

    You could possibly try a thermal image camera to find that blender, it could just show it

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      That mate is a VERY VERY good shout…… 👏🏼👏🏼
      I may well give that a try👍🏼

  • @copperskills3973
    @copperskills3973 2 года назад +3

    Last bathroom i done in Southampton was £8k on the dot. Bath out 1700 tray in,wet room shower screen, shower mixer, basin toilet vanity unit, 1200 towel rad. Aquaboard shower area and splash back, reskim walls and ceiling, move light switch to outside and extractor fan installed and waterproof Malmo click flooring.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Near on this price then buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @effervescence5664
    @effervescence5664 2 года назад +2

    2nd job is very similar to a block of new build flats we now look after, built 3 years ago and blending valves buried in walls. Absolutely mental, some of them don't have blending valves so they just turned the tank temperature down below legionella requirements. So many corners cut when it comes to new builds, no idea what developers are thinking.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      It’s a nightmare mate, honestly…..
      And the worse bit is you can’t price for something you don’t know

    • @effervescence5664
      @effervescence5664 2 года назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah, I have to go to the block on Tuesday and find where the rising main has given up. All boxed in and likely run up the building in 28mm speed fit if the workmanship in the flats was the norm. If you're going to look for it though, get a thermal camera and run the hot out the outlets it'll make life much easier - remembering there's only supposed to be 1-1.5m between TMV and outlet it will give you an idea if they have indeed put it near the outlet or behind the hot outlet of the tank/ entrance to the bathroom.
      Those are the standard locations we have been finding for them in these new builds anyway.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      @@effervescence5664 good luck with that mate….
      Yer will get the camera out and see what I can find

  • @dalemr2
    @dalemr2 2 месяца назад +1

    I think you're spot on with the pricing for that bathroom. The people on here saying 4k haven't a clue
    I've just redone my bathroom myself (first time ever) its a little bigger than the one you've shown but not by loads. I did everything except the plastering so i know the true cost. It was similar to what you was going to do, ie: rip the tiles off, plaster, replaster the ceiling
    All the materials including the plasterer came to £4200. Its basically a £10k bathroom had i had it fitted by someone.
    By comparison the next door neighbor did his (himself) at exactly the same time. His cost £1300. But it looks a bodge, he's tiled over 3 sets of existing tiles and everything is basically a cover up instead of ripping out and starting fresh..
    You get what you pay for

  • @stuckinatruckscotland
    @stuckinatruckscotland 7 месяцев назад +2

    i always went through ceilings before lifting floors/tiles etc,so if thats an option could save your customer some dough,and easier to fix than a tiled floor :)

  • @danielanderson2002
    @danielanderson2002 2 года назад +4

    With the bath tap you may find it under the bath? Best thing i bought was an inspection camera (you can get cheap ones that work with your phone) that way you only need to do little damage in the ceiling below to see if it is in the floor? 👍🏻

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Yep we are hoping it’s under the bath….
      (And watch out for tomorrow nights video😉)

    • @vinylspinner87
      @vinylspinner87 2 года назад +1

      Cane to say the same thing.. and those inspection cameras are so good. For around 20quid on eBay you can get a Wi-Fi one that connect to your phone. So handy for the price.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      @@vinylspinner87 will take a look👍🏼👍🏼

    • @vinylspinner87
      @vinylspinner87 2 года назад

      They're awesome. Even has little adjustable led lights on the end too 👍 perfect for Plumbers and sparks

  • @steveworkman4289
    @steveworkman4289 2 года назад

    Try seeing what is underneath bracket, as in less damage if you come up thru ceiling [submarine] haha worth a go if nothing better🤙

  • @wfalzon5121
    @wfalzon5121 2 года назад +1

    Really interesting to see the pricing of a complete refurbishment, hope to see more like this.
    What would be the price of installing a new unvented cylinder from an old vented system? Thanks

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Depends On so many things to be honest mate

  • @dale_ch
    @dale_ch 2 года назад +2

    As an ex Kitchen & Bathroom fitter of 10 years experience, I like your honesty in the video Mark - no BS - just the honest facts of life. The bathroom job does sound a tad pricey? but I'm thinking your work is 5* - the customer must appreciate you do get what you pay for with tradesmen (& women of course!) - unfortunately with many European plumbers, the price starts low in the original quote, then escalates during the progress of the job and the standards aren't always the best - 'que sera sera' as the saying goes! Enjoyed watching your video matey, I'd be happy for you to quote for my job 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate, that’s just what the channel is about, Real World Plumbing…. Showing it all as it is.
      Bathroom wise some people have said it’s too cheap, it’s all very different up and down the country for prices…
      Glad you liked the video buddy👍🏼👍🏼

  • @rossMIE
    @rossMIE 5 месяцев назад

    Re that bath, could you use a infa red/ heat tracking camera and trace it that way, maybe from the ceiling from below even? Should be a good temp gradient up to the mixer.

  • @jamesfortune5119
    @jamesfortune5119 2 года назад +7

    Interesting …. To be honest that price for the bathroom is reasonable, and I’m Bristol based, I might be just a little cheaper.
    It helps being transparent with the pricing so if the customer does query you have nothing to hide and don’t look like a rip off merchant.
    Great video mate. 👍🏻

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks James, interesting to know it’s a similar price your way…👍🏼
      Glad you like the channel James and thanks for watching & commenting

    • @juliestreet8688
      @juliestreet8688 2 года назад

      Similiar to me in Oldham although a lot of cowboys out there quoting under 5k. If customers budget is 5k I am nice about it but I dont even go and look.

    • @kurluk04
      @kurluk04 Год назад

      I’m bristol based - I’d charge about 8 for this job - depending if customers want top tier utilities or a more basic set.

  • @r5u26d3
    @r5u26d3 5 месяцев назад +1

    I like the upfront frankness. Only experience can tell you what you’re up against. That bathroom I would say today around the 10k mark. 7.5k is a great price.

  • @chriswilson7413
    @chriswilson7413 2 года назад

    Best running the bath tap hot feed pipe into a bucket to check the temperature and flow rate. Hopefully help narrow down the cause a bit better then. And if it is a hidden blending valve just sack off finding it. Price to run a fresh hot pipe from the basin to the bath tap. Maybe via the ceiling below for minimum disruption

    • @cixsmiley3618
      @cixsmiley3618 4 месяца назад

      First thing to check is the hot and cold fed from the same source easy to do if there is 2 sources turn one off.

    • @cixsmiley3618
      @cixsmiley3618 4 месяца назад

      Seen hot fed from the attic and cold from mains b4.

    • @cixsmiley3618
      @cixsmiley3618 4 месяца назад

      That will be 3k please.

  • @diddywright6165
    @diddywright6165 2 года назад +3

    Nice content mate, I admire your honesty and I clearly don’t charge enough😂👍🏻

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
      Prices are all area relevant

  • @jackwoodcock9240
    @jackwoodcock9240 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting mark , I’m a “London plumber “ some of the things you’ve quoted for would get taken to the cleaners down here , you can imagine .😂
    Very fair prices to be fair .
    Love your vids 👍🏻

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate…. Yer I can imagine some prices are crazy in London.
      Glad you enjoyed it mate 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @JB-jb8qm
    @JB-jb8qm 2 года назад +7

    Great video as always. I might have been watching a bit too much PB lately, but would a thermal imaging camera be an option for that bath mixer? Thanks for all the content and hope it keeps coming

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Yep the thermal camera will be coming out this week on it😉

    • @JJ-bv7fc
      @JJ-bv7fc 2 года назад

      Any recommendations of thermal cameras?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      @@JJ-bv7fc
      Keep your eye out on my channel at 6pm tomorrow😉😉

  • @adierob1
    @adierob1 2 года назад +3

    Nice to see you fit and well again mark you where spot on with them prices I said 120-140 for that leak on the waste. That freestanding tap I would remove it from the floor and check the hot inlet isn't blocked if you can't get any adjustments on the main tap, there is usually a plastic ring you can turn to adjust the temperature on the main tap. Only an idiot would hide a blender, if there is a blender it's not under the sink behind them drawers is it?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Thanks mate, nope the basin Pipework again just goes into the wall… but that is red hot.
      Thermal imaging camera is the next port of call, someone suggested it on here and I hadn’t even thought of that….. and it was sat in the van!!!

    • @adierob1
      @adierob1 2 года назад +1

      Good call thermal imaging camera mine has saved me a lot of time fault finding and from ripping things up 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      @@adierob1 yep, handy tools….👍🏼👍🏼

  • @richardthorpe1741
    @richardthorpe1741 Год назад +3

    Bath = access through downstairs ceiling = massive savings for the customer as apposed to alternative. 12.5mm 8x4foot plasterboard sheet would be more than enough to cover the bathrooms access needed. Repair access with said board and skim entire ceiling = 1 day plastering and plastering materials only £450.00 tops. I would not want to get involved in that tiling looking at the rest of the work you presented. Great video 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  Год назад +3

      All sorted now…. It’s in a video… interesting result

  • @englishrifleman6556
    @englishrifleman6556 2 года назад +1

    Bath. My way would be from room below. 80mm drilled hole in cieling take a look in void. or feel if pipes are blended yet. if not see what dirrection and drill hole further away then see if pipes are blended yet. after your done battern holes put cores back in, bit of filler. and access panel where valve is ( IF you even find it). They could have even brought pipes up under bath and back out. So Holes from below should be easyest and cheapest to start..Good Luck MT

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate, thermal imaging it to hopefully see if I can find it, failing that access below is an option aswell

    • @englishrifleman6556
      @englishrifleman6556 2 года назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Now that would be ideal (Thermal Image) i hadnt even thought of that. Good Shout

  • @keanMechanic
    @keanMechanic Год назад +1

    Mark,could you use the thermal imager to find the blending valve and pipe run ?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  Год назад

      I’ve tried that mate…. Still no joy🙈🙈

  • @tirvplumbing
    @tirvplumbing 2 года назад +4

    Still watching but my thoughts on that ridiculous bath tap blender would be an infrared camera to chase the hot feed either under the tiles or from the ceiling below. Might give you a non destructive way to narrow it down.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Yep thermal camera will be used this week to try and help the location…👍🏼

  • @JJ-bv7fc
    @JJ-bv7fc 2 года назад

    Great video

  • @Zeus_1983
    @Zeus_1983 2 года назад +4

    Tiff, do you ever get the customers who want to do the ripp out themselves? Taking out all the fixtures and fittings, tiles etc

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Yes from time to time….. will save them a few hundred quid, but usually takes them longer to be perfectly honest

  • @stevenlee5353
    @stevenlee5353 2 года назад

    Great video mate.
    Stupid question about the blending valve issue but would it not be easier to pop the cellings below to find it then make good cellings, replaster and paint? No tile matching etc??

    • @stevenlee5353
      @stevenlee5353 2 года назад

      Or as it has downlights can you pop one or two daom and put a small camera up and look for the pipe work then follow it??

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Yep there options as others have said👍🏼👍🏼

  • @davelovestech1734
    @davelovestech1734 2 года назад +1

    I’ve had dirt in the flexi of the tap before so the cold was overpowering the hot .

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Oh this is deffo a valve somewhere, all the other properties around have had a similar issue🙈
      But thanks for the comment mate👍🏼

  • @benthomas0715
    @benthomas0715 2 года назад +1

    Hi mate Being a builder/plumber myself I mostly do repair work , a 100 % percent take tiles up as last resort . Go from ceiling below. Try and cut nice square holes between joist . As this looks better for the customer and also is easier/cheaper to repair and make good. Draw a square or cut round a wooden template with a multi tool . Also don’t cut to deep to avoid hitting cables or pipe work .

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @Micktheadventurer
      @Micktheadventurer 11 месяцев назад

      ​@M J Tiff Plumbing 😂😂😂😂 and don't forget to tie your shoelaces and put socks on

  • @ericthekingthekingtheking4842
    @ericthekingthekingtheking4842 2 года назад +1

    When you whip that bath out youv got the area that the bath covers to make access to find the mixer !! I bet its bang under the bath tiles

  • @Ste2023
    @Ste2023 Год назад +1

    Reg, to that Bath (isolation) feed etc ....where ideally would u put a isolation valve on those fancy freed standing Taps/ Baths ...
    any ideas ...we're to fit isolation valve 🤔🤔

  • @timothyhillis5826
    @timothyhillis5826 2 года назад +1

    My hourly rate is 135 an hour. But with most of my work, I just come up with a price, I always go on the high end.. example 40 gallon water heater.. 1500-1700. That includes new flexes gas and water, gas shut off while using the existing earth quake straps and disposal of old unit..Iam located in L.A county , CA. South Bay Area.. a little pricing my way, keep up the great work

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Nice one Timothy 🙌🏼🙌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @thomasmoxon3423
    @thomasmoxon3423 2 года назад +1

    Could you take a floorboard up outside the bathroom and get a inspection camera under to see if you can see the blending valve?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Always an option… and going from below

  • @davidb2464
    @davidb2464 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Mark, really enjoying the vids, on this one, was there a reason you didn't use the bath taps to put in a bar shower and forget the dreaded electric shower??

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks buddy….. can’t remember what it was tbh

  • @Bathrooms77
    @Bathrooms77 2 года назад +3

    Camera then only need to drill some 10mm holes to put end in
    Don't remove tiled floor always ceiling underneath as plasterer can patch it in cheaply by feathering it in

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Yep that’s an option, however it’s a fully fitted kitchen below with limited access due to unit positions etc…. Hopefully it’s just under the bath🤞🏼

  • @nigelrogers2474
    @nigelrogers2474 Месяц назад +1

    Have you tried using that rapid blue stuff, it would be good to see a video with you using it and feedback on what you think.

  • @henryeadie7972
    @henryeadie7972 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video this, hope you get the bath job, be cool to see what disasters lie beneath that floor given the "quality" of the builders other work.
    Do they have downlights in the room below? Can you stick an inspection camera up there and find the valve that way?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад

      Yer that’s an option…. Fully fitted kitchen below so access would be tricky but another angle

  • @johnbrookshull
    @johnbrookshull 2 года назад +1

    Id be taking a tile up thats under the bath and try finding the tmv , if you find it jackpot, take it out and put bath back, no one would ever know you’ve been!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      That’s where I will be starting I think

  • @luvit7567
    @luvit7567 2 года назад +2

    Great video, gonna subscribe 👍
    With the bath, would it not have been easier to go up through the ceiling below? Much easier and cheaper to repair.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate….
      Below is a fully fitted kitchen so would struggle, also it turns out that it’s had a camera put into the ceiling a few months back with no joy… sadly.
      This is going to be fun that’s for sure!!

  • @markrainford1219
    @markrainford1219 Год назад +2

    Have you tried looking under the utility room sink base unit for the TMV. Would be the first place I'd look. 😂

  • @leecoster4450
    @leecoster4450 2 года назад +2

    A insight to how you do the taxes would be super helpful!!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Plenty of channels for that mate, I won’t be showing that much detail on here I’m afraid.

    • @leecoster4450
      @leecoster4450 2 года назад

      Okaaay, that’s no worries! Love watching your vids tho! I’m Training to become a plumber and this is awesome stuff!

  • @kendom33
    @kendom33 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video Mark. Can you get hold of a thermal camera ? Might help

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
      There is a follow up video…. Make sure you check it out😉

  • @brighton_locksmith
    @brighton_locksmith 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always mate. Just catching up now.
    What about going from below the bathroom and having a bit of ceiling down? Probably been mentioned by someone else 😊

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate, yer that’s an option, as is a thermal imagine camera to see if we can locate it…

    • @brighton_locksmith
      @brighton_locksmith 2 года назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing that’s a good shout 👍🏼 Good luck with it bud 🤞🏼

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      @@brighton_locksmith cheers mate…🤞🏼

  • @garyredfern2542
    @garyredfern2542 2 года назад +1

    What about a thermal imaging camera to see if you can see the pipes for that bath.
    Have you looked in the loft. Sound silly but who knows ? 👍👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 года назад +1

      Yep been in the loft, looked everywhere accessible👍🏼
      Thermal camera coming out next week on it👍🏼