There is genius in all of these masters. Having played over 45 years my observation is that past a level of mastery you play it the way you feel it. All these guys are having a different conversation. For me I can't ID the greatest drummer in the world, they all have something to say and I'm going to borrow anything that perks my ear. Great vocabulary with eloquence, add a cool song, great players and stir.
danny garrett Well said. I’d like to point out that Vinnies performance is the only one that is truly conversational as his solo is live and onstage, All three of these cats are top shelf and I’ve seen all live. I am very fortunate.
All of them are Awesome in their own Right. Each have their own style and that’s what makes them so unique! I wish I could play half as good as anyone of them!😁😁. They’ve worked hard and studied for years and put many, many hour behind the kit. It’s defiantly takes a Love and desire to do that. If your in it just for $$ I don’t think you’d last long. You’d have to really live it, Love it, breath it, eat it every day like they do!! Not to mention their Blessed with just RAW TALENT as well!! I’m just Thankful I get to hear and watch them in my life time like many used to watch some of the greats before I came along. Totally a Gift. Thanks!👍👍😁😁
Three of the very best players around. Chris absolutely blew my mind. Good lord, he’s explosive and flies around from a whisper to a roar. Unbelievable.
I recorded Vinnie on a project I was engineer/co-producing. He’s a good guy and explained some odd timing thing he did in a certain section of the song... Cool guy. 👍🏼💥
I like the fact that the cymbal brands vary in Chris's kit at this time. I play a mix of Zildjian, Sabian and Ufip. Each company shines in different timbres.
Good Job, Vinnie....You Have Excellent Stick Control, along with a heaping's of soul.....you and Jeff Beck is like a Root Beer Float....no root beer, no ice cream, no float.....Bring back some Jeff some awesome 'Wired Tunes and Blow by Blow...I know, but, they are true Classic Music....
Without a doubt all 3 are superb solos but Coleman stands out to me. His power burst and presicion is unrivaled. Super creative too, every lick is a new corner turned in his groove.
When you consider their entire body of work & overall genius, Vinnie is LORD!! No question... Gotta say, though Coleman is a phenomenal beast, total terrifying.
All 3 are excellent musicians with an unmistakable drum technique. However, Coleman has something of the incomparable brilliance of Lionel Messi in world soccer. Filigree technician who just knocks you off your feet. Un saludo desde España.
Smith back in 81' w Journey was MAGIC! Smooth as glass, relaxed, power & energy, rock w/jazz sensitivities, knew what a large audience wanted to hear...27 years old and already killed it...was a cut above from the others
...it's the tones of the drums that are amazing to me. Vinnie's kit sounds absolutely spectacular....with Coleman's right behind it. Back when Yamaha drums were made in Japan at the Osaka factory. I will forever scratch my head as to why Yamaha thought it's customer base would spend the kind of money they're asking for a Chinese made set up drums. I don't care HOW good they may sound.....
It’s his technique. I took his cymbal set home from Zildjian Day in New York 1984. All the cymbals used at that show (unless they were the artists personal instruments) went to the shop I was working at afterward. I played every single one at home before bringing them into work on Monday, and although all were good, only one was “wow” enough for me to buy, which was a 22” K ride, which I still own. It was nice to be able to play and compare instruments that were hand selected by Zildjian for the show.
I knew he was awesome when I saw Journey for my first concert. I was 14. I think in 85 they came to Philly, JFK stadium with the tubes, Bryan Adams, Sammy Hagar, John cougar. I just remember the smell of pot and the drumming of Steve Smith!!! Loved it
Well its 2018 and I can tell you without a doubt its Chris Coleman all the way💪😎!!! That man has progressed so much over the last 18 yrs, it's been an incredible thing too watch! Current day that mans the total package! Who wouldn't want to have the skill of Chris Coleman in present time!?! Such an awesome and nice guy as well!
I don’t wanna say “this guy had the best solo,” or “that guy beat the other two.” But I will say this. I let out several more “What the?”, and “Ooof,” and “No way,” during Coleman’s solo. Haha! I will say that.
you prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a method to get back into an Instagram account? I was dumb forgot my login password. I love any help you can offer me.
I’ve never even heard of Chris Coleman...until now!!! Holy shit!! His chops are off the scale!! Steve Smith is a talented drummer as well but Vinnie and Chris are just in a different league.
Barren Savant I totally agree. Some of those guys can place those chops in certain areas of the music and make it sound like butter. But some of Vinnie’s parts are hard to listen to because he plays so technical that it sounds overplayed with no sense of musicality but that’s just how I hear some of his music. IMO so many qualities make up a good drummer and not just the ability to play technical fills all of the time. All of those drummers mentioned are amazing in their own way and their touch on the drums and ability to know the perfect way to play for a given piece makes them in a league of their own.
Great Stuff! Must give praise to Vinnie's Guitarist! Michael Landau, Socal Mid 70's He was a crosstown Child Prodigy same time as Steve Lukather, He & Vinnie formed a Band 40 yrs ago called Dog Cheese, They made some really incredible stuff back then, Great seeing them together again!
@@catalystAl Had the distinct pleasure '76 seeing George Duke Billy Cobham Band w/ John Scofield & Alfonso Johnson not for casual ears! Checkout live in Europe cover of Hipockets Billy was the guy back then,
All three drummers are proven super professionals. Personally, I like Steve Smith the most, he has incredible rudimentary articulation and extremely elegant movements around the set. There is a lot of Bernard Rich.
Anyone catch where he looks like he turned the beat around accidentally at around 3:12? He does a fill and comes back with his snare opposite of the hand clap loop. Then he looks over like he made a mistake and then plays two backbeats in a row to get back in the right spot. Maybe he is human after all.
If these guys were cars - Steve is the aesthetic. You buy because it's too beautiful to pass up. Vinnie is the precision and how well the car handles all the hard to maneuver corners. Chris is the power and thrust that gets you from A to B safely and quickly. Talk about three of the greatest to ever live. Unbelievable how good these men are in their own respective styles. WoW!!!
Roy Beckerman I see the Gretsch lugs and throw off up close but not sure what shell it is. Being it looks dark I’d say a brass nickel plated shell and he plays 5” depth snares and it looks and sounds like a 5”-14” snare. That is my best guess hope that helps!
Colaiuta tiene algo especial.. creo que Coleman es más lo que hoy en día es baterista moderno.. (técnico.. velocidad.. potencia .. chopero.. ) una increíble bestia.. Pero colaiuta tiene algo muy llamativo para mí.. es su lenguaje.. su visión.. además de ser una bestia obviamente.. siempre destaque esa particularidad que tiene.. Va más allá de cuantos golpes.. cuánta fuerza o cuánta velocidad meta.. Tiene esa cosas de poder tocar de una manera sucia y elegante a la vez jaja.. Eh escuchado a colaiuta de demasiados discos.. bandas..etc . Se maneja en todos los ámbitos demasiado bien.. y aún así cierras los ojos y lo puedes reconocer... Por su lenguaje.. sonido.. visión.. Coleman es una tremenda máquina.. pero cerrando los ojos.. te lo puedes confundir con muchos bateros de hoy en día..
You can't compare the drummers nearly as well when for some reason, Vinnies drums sound very thin on this Modern Drummer recording. A lot of power is lost in the translation.
That ride that Steve Smith is using is so dry yet punchy, I'm a paiste alpha, rude and 2002 guy, but if you want a dry ride, you would do well to find out what model that is , lovely sound.
As incredible as Vinnie is here, he has been constantly IMPROVING each and every day since.
There is genius in all of these masters. Having played over 45 years my observation is that past a level of mastery you play it the way you feel it. All these guys are having a different conversation. For me I can't ID the greatest drummer in the world, they all have something to say and I'm going to borrow anything that perks my ear. Great vocabulary with eloquence, add a cool song, great players and stir.
danny garrett
Well said.
I’d like to point out that Vinnies performance is the only one that is truly conversational as his solo is live and onstage,
All three of these cats are top shelf and I’ve seen all live.
I am very fortunate.
PERFECTLY,ADEPTLY&SUCCINCTLY STATED!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
All of them are Awesome in their own Right. Each have their own style and that’s what makes them so unique! I wish I could play half as good as anyone of them!😁😁. They’ve worked hard and studied for years and put many, many hour behind the kit. It’s defiantly takes a Love and desire to do that. If your in it just for $$ I don’t think you’d last long. You’d have to really live it, Love it, breath it, eat it every day like they do!! Not to mention their Blessed with just RAW TALENT as well!! I’m just Thankful I get to hear and watch them in my life time like many used to watch some of the greats before I came along. Totally a Gift. Thanks!👍👍😁😁
This clip by Colaiuta and Carisma is the best presentation that Modern Drummer has had at their festival and will never be surpassed by anyone!
How come I never heard of Chris Coleman before? What a talent!
coz his playing tour with religious group. and play for church before.
@@streetsmartdrumming9567 Cheers man.
@@user-m3w5g 🍻🍻🍻
Three of the very best players around. Chris absolutely blew my mind. Good lord, he’s explosive and flies around from a whisper to a roar. Unbelievable.
I recorded Vinnie on a project I was engineer/co-producing. He’s a good guy and explained some odd timing thing he did in a certain section of the song... Cool guy. 👍🏼💥
Vinnie any day of the week!
Coleman.....wow! Whoever set up mics deserves some kudos as well. This drummer is fantastic!
Coleman is the one of the Bests)
That sound depends by the reso head. My toms sound the same, even with cheap mics i can obtain that sound because is the drum itself tuned properly
Agreed...except for his bass drum. Sounds like a digital casio drum. Terrible.
I like the fact that the cymbal brands vary in Chris's kit at this time. I play a mix of Zildjian, Sabian and Ufip. Each company shines in different timbres.
Steve Smith is the master! The man gets better with age!
Good Job, Vinnie....You Have Excellent Stick Control, along with a heaping's of soul.....you and Jeff Beck is like a Root Beer Float....no root beer, no ice cream, no float.....Bring back some Jeff some awesome 'Wired Tunes and Blow by Blow...I know, but, they are true Classic Music....
Without a doubt all 3 are superb solos but Coleman stands out to me. His power burst and presicion is unrivaled. Super creative too, every lick is a new corner turned in his groove.
They're masters drummers !!. Study, Discipline and Talent. Saludos desde Argentina.
WOW! What amazing musicianship and chops and sound. I am so inspired!!
All three are great! The sound of Coleman`s Sonor Kit is so good, just perfect!!
John Friedrichsen using Yamaha here
@@scsdrummer I thought Chris would endorse and play Sonor?? I never saw him play other drum kits?
John Friedrichsen he does but this was quite a long time ago before he got that endorsement
@@scsdrummer Okay, I didn`t know that! Anyway, this kit sounds amazing and Yamaha seems to make good drums too ;-))
Coleman didn't even break a sweat. Dude's a machine. Still going as the video fades...
When you consider their entire body of work & overall genius, Vinnie is LORD!! No question... Gotta say, though Coleman is a phenomenal beast, total terrifying.
Chris Coleman is amazing. Uncomparable!
Now, I wish I hadn’t stopped playing for those over 20 years!!!
Vinnie is a monster what a great Drummer saw him with zappa he is by far one of the greatest
I wouldn't mind having ANY of their chops! Inspiring players!
UNbelievably talented drummers. First one's performance, reminds me of Art Blakey.
Close. Steve Smith's form is based on a Max Roach composition called "Drums Unlimited".
@@sixtieskid062 no one asked you
I head DCI blue devils drumline but if played on drums when I heard Coleman play. Brilliant!
still love the drums!! I believe that God also resides in the drums
I am about the same age as Vinnie and grew up less than a half hour away from him in SW PA! But, never knew of him till recently!!
Sei uno dei più grandi batteristi al mondo ,potenza precisione sviluppo dei rudimenti , sei fantastico.
That song from Vinny, WOW, i feel so lucky to own a pair of drums stick from him now !
The Great Michael Landau on Guitar, Him & Vinnie had a Band together 40 yrs ago called Dog Cheese in Socal
Colemans solo here was best. However Steve smith is a musical beast. And Vinnie is the odd time king.
That was my fave too!:)
Well said 👏🏼🥁
Said "Larry" with some un warrented certainty.
All 3 are excellent musicians with an unmistakable drum technique. However, Coleman has something of the incomparable brilliance of Lionel Messi in world soccer. Filigree technician who just knocks you off your feet. Un saludo desde España.
Smith back in 81' w Journey was MAGIC! Smooth as glass, relaxed, power & energy, rock w/jazz sensitivities, knew what a large audience wanted to hear...27 years old and already killed it...was a cut above from the others
To me Vinnie is a god, but all three of these musicians are of the top in the world. So incredible!
You can pick you favorite here and not be wrong.
How can a human be God?
@@xlarge7370 a God.
Steve = sutileza, feeling
Vinnie = fusion, jazz, speed
Chris = swing, Power, tecnics
Vinnie = fusion, jazz, speed , swing, Power, tecnics ,sutileza, feeling
Man, Do I love that ringing tom and hi hat sound of Coleman
Interesting solo as well
That sound depends mostly by the reso head (and his skill too)
...it's the tones of the drums that are amazing to me. Vinnie's kit sounds absolutely spectacular....with Coleman's right behind it. Back when Yamaha drums were made in Japan at the Osaka factory. I will forever scratch my head as to why Yamaha thought it's customer base would spend the kind of money they're asking for a Chinese made set up drums. I don't care HOW good they may sound.....
I favor Vinnie --- naturally ----- but Mr. Coleman is more inspiring. Holy hell he's fun to listen to.
Holy shit dude Vinnie's killing it!!!
Just keep on comparing and you'll get your hero one day!!
Some people are just so talented! I wish I could play as good as any of these guys.
Great demonstrations with very contrasting styles. Although I think Vinnie is just very special.
Vinnie always gets the best sounding cymbals!
How does he do it?
Nah, is just the way he plays... He would smoke on a CB700 and some Harpy cymbals. Those A Customs do sound dope though! :D
Zildjian Ks
That's why he moved to pAisTe.
It’s his technique. I took his cymbal set home from Zildjian Day in New York 1984. All the cymbals used at that show (unless they were the artists personal instruments) went to the shop I was working at afterward. I played every single one at home before bringing them into work on Monday, and although all were good, only one was “wow” enough for me to buy, which was a 22” K ride, which I still own. It was nice to be able to play and compare instruments that were hand selected by Zildjian for the show.
I knew he was awesome when I saw Journey for my first concert. I was 14. I think in 85 they came to Philly, JFK stadium with the tubes, Bryan Adams, Sammy Hagar, John cougar. I just remember the smell of pot and the drumming of Steve Smith!!! Loved it
Well its 2018 and I can tell you without a doubt its Chris Coleman all the way💪😎!!! That man has progressed so much over the last 18 yrs, it's been an incredible thing too watch! Current day that mans the total package! Who wouldn't want to have the skill of Chris Coleman in present time!?! Such an awesome and nice guy as well!
It was never a contest you dolt
All Greats !!! Chris Coleman though!!! 👍👍Damn !!!
Vinnie and Colemann , great Talent Masters of all times.
I don’t wanna say “this guy had the best solo,” or “that guy beat the other two.” But I will say this. I let out several more “What the?”, and “Ooof,” and “No way,” during Coleman’s solo. Haha! I will say that.
HAHA so true.... what a beast. First time that i listen to him, unlike vinnie or Steve
@drewper73 Check out his 4-part Vic Firth artist spotlight with the metronome. It’s actually some of his better work.
Steve smith is a machine!!!!👍
a very good drummer a great success
young chris coleman really out here with the heat.
Intense solo from Coleman. His snare work and speed is insane!
So Musical as well as creative.
I don't think I've heard a drummer with better touch than Steve Smith.
You should check out will kennedy from the yellowjackets. His dynamics and touch on the albums are amazing, especially with his cymbal artistry.
Twotontessie Danny Seraphine, drummer of Chicago could be
Hey Steve...good job...my teacher was your teacher .Bill Shinstine ! He also taught Ed Shaughnessy..keep rockin
Smith - learning rudiments, Colaiuta - how to apply rudiments , Coleman how to feel it both ! All are great in different ways . )
you prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a method to get back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb forgot my login password. I love any help you can offer me.
@Axton Michael Instablaster ;)
Chris Coleman is a Machine! 🙏🏻💥
two of the greats......love both of them and all their work !!!!!!!!
Stará dobrá klasika. Tahle deska je zvláštní a skvělá. Co se týká Vinnieo. :)
COLEMAN IS THE BEST, ABSOLUTELY
THE DRUM KIT COLEMAN IS PLAYING SOUNDS AMAZING. THOSE TOMS WOW. IT'S A YAMAHA MAPLE CUSTOM ABSOLUTE NOVUOU.
I’ve never even heard of Chris Coleman...until now!!! Holy shit!! His chops are off the scale!! Steve Smith is a talented drummer as well but Vinnie and Chris are just in a different league.
Barren Savant I totally agree. Some of those guys can place those chops in certain areas of the music and make it sound like butter. But some of Vinnie’s parts are hard to listen to because he plays so technical that it sounds overplayed with no sense of musicality but that’s just how I hear some of his music. IMO so many qualities make up a good drummer and not just the ability to play technical fills all of the time. All of those drummers mentioned are amazing in their own way and their touch on the drums and ability to know the perfect way to play for a given piece makes them in a league of their own.
Does anyone know what Steve Smith is doing at the 0:46 mark of that first solo?
Chris Coleman his chops are rare never heard like the other greats His on TOP!
The fact
Don't forget Vinnie's studying. He's a Berkley Boston guy with insane sight-reading skills and lots of wood-shedding. Studied a LOT.
Koi Noval probably because ther's more to drumming than chops
Holy shit. Steve Smith is pretty much at Obi-Wan, Gandalf The White levels of touch by now.
Great Stuff! Must give praise to Vinnie's Guitarist! Michael Landau, Socal Mid 70's He was a crosstown Child Prodigy same time as Steve Lukather, He & Vinnie formed a Band 40 yrs ago called Dog Cheese, They made some really incredible stuff back then, Great seeing them together again!
I have considered Michael Landau as the best guitar player I’ve recorded in L.A. back in the ‘80’s-‘90’s
@@catalystAl Had the distinct pleasure '76 seeing George Duke Billy Cobham Band w/ John Scofield & Alfonso Johnson not for casual ears! Checkout live in Europe cover of Hipockets Billy was the guy back then,
Крутые драммеры!!! Уровень-космос!
Michael Landau guitar....YES
Play from 4:39 to 4:55 at .75% speed. Tasty.
well ?
I love how Vinnie hits his crash cymbal from underneath... at 3.47.
All three drummers are proven super professionals. Personally, I like Steve Smith the most, he has incredible rudimentary articulation and extremely elegant movements around the set. There is a lot of Bernard Rich.
And please don't forget MR L.BELSON
Two drummers from another planet...
Luc.drum1972 Lucky 3
@@jstixx ...comparing Steve Smith ....mmmm....no way...for me...still two drummers...
Throw in a little Sean Rickman, Marvin Smitty Smith and Gene Lake . . . drum heaven right there baby.
Where can I find the full performance of Vinnie?
If it is a matter of mastering (including combining whole lot of rudiments unexpectedly), still Vinnie is the king
Anyone catch where he looks like he turned the beat around accidentally at around 3:12? He does a fill and comes back with his snare opposite of the hand clap loop. Then he looks over like he made a mistake and then plays two backbeats in a row to get back in the right spot. Maybe he is human after all.
I liked that Coleman is using whatever cymbals he wants, zildjian, sabian and wuhan
What a great drummer.
Vinnie's fill at 5:00 is just plain sick!
If these guys were cars - Steve is the aesthetic. You buy because it's too beautiful to pass up. Vinnie is the precision and how well the car handles all the hard to maneuver corners. Chris is the power and thrust that gets you from A to B safely and quickly. Talk about three of the greatest to ever live. Unbelievable how good these men are in their own respective styles. WoW!!!
Colemans kit sounded soo good
Damn, what group was Vinnie with? They are all so good, and Vinnie is the King!
Perseus Rex Karizma
David Garfield on keys
Michael Landau on guitar
Neil Stubenhaus on bass
@@adityadarmadi6303 thanks my friend
What’s Vinnie’s tight, cracking snare...great sound.
Roy Beckerman I see the Gretsch lugs and throw off up close but not sure what shell it is. Being it looks dark I’d say a brass nickel plated shell and he plays 5” depth snares and it looks and sounds like a 5”-14” snare. That is my best guess hope that helps!
I think it’s a 14x5 Gretsch COB
My brother Steve' Smith ❤
Chris Coleman is my fave
Wow Chris is a machine
Vinnie @4:05 - 4:20...pure genius!! Overall, this is not Vinnie's best performance.
May i listen Vinnie on Steves drum set, please? ;-)
The comparison would be more valid if Vinnies drums were recorded as well as Steves.
totally agree about his sound with the Yamahas verses the sonar..😁
The first solo is very similar to a Max Roach title (from the Drums Unlimited album I believe).
Chris Coleman--monster no. 1
Three different things. A lot different ,but we're the winners.
Colaiuta tiene algo especial.. creo que Coleman es más lo que hoy en día es baterista moderno.. (técnico.. velocidad.. potencia .. chopero.. ) una increíble bestia..
Pero colaiuta tiene algo muy llamativo para mí.. es su lenguaje.. su visión.. además de ser una bestia obviamente.. siempre destaque esa particularidad que tiene..
Va más allá de cuantos golpes.. cuánta fuerza o cuánta velocidad meta..
Tiene esa cosas de poder tocar de una manera sucia y elegante a la vez jaja..
Eh escuchado a colaiuta de demasiados discos.. bandas..etc .
Se maneja en todos los ámbitos demasiado bien.. y aún así cierras los ojos y lo puedes reconocer... Por su lenguaje.. sonido.. visión..
Coleman es una tremenda máquina.. pero cerrando los ojos.. te lo puedes confundir con muchos bateros de hoy en día..
thats the way it should be.......perfect!!!!!!!!!!
You can't compare the drummers nearly as well when for some reason, Vinnies drums sound very thin on this Modern Drummer recording. A lot of power is lost in the translation.
agree! if you've heard the bootleg recording of this gig where they played 3 more songs (not on the video), you'll be surprised! cheers!
stretch54 johonbonham drumfestivl
I
Was that Landau on guitar, with Vinnie?
That ride that Steve Smith is using is so dry yet punchy, I'm a paiste alpha, rude and 2002 guy, but if you want a dry ride, you would do well to find out what model that is , lovely sound.
Steve Smith had the best sounding drums.
What snare was he using.....Sonor ?
I wonder if Coleman moves with this speed, agility, and finesse when he's frequenting a buffet, such a master, great drummer too!
Me gusta el estilo de chris coleman tremendo
I gelled most with Coleman. Tasty.
Oh MY GOD BRO THE LEFT HAND KICK ROLL ON THE BAND PERFORMANCE