This might look like an ordinary black cab, but this impressive Dynamo taxi is 100% electric! Based on the Nissan e-NV200 Evalia, this is the only fully electric black cab that has been built with the driver in mind. The cheaper running costs, coupled with exemptions from London ULEZ and congestion charges, make this the most cost effective taxi currently available. It delivers up to 187 miles range, can rapid charge in an hour and looks the business. Expect to see more and more of these in cities across the UK very soon! For more information please visit - www.dynamotaxi.com/ Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a RUclips member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow
Since commenting on the Nissan Cab edition of Fully Charged + i've (today) had the occassion to drive one. I'm renting it for the next few weeks and i have to take back my assertions over the range prediction. I've had a similar experience although this was in town under ideal conditions. However, more than ever, i still say that this is vastly over priced. It is the crudest (technology aside) and most cramped cab i've ever driven. Although it claims to be a five seater, that would be extremely tight. The luggage space is inadequate, the ride is hard - i have to crawl over speed bumps and, on this example, the brakes are spongy and lack any progression - although it is possible to adapt. The drivers enviroment is also limiting, very little storage. Despite my harsh comments previously, i have been disappointed. I prefer driving it to the TX4 but i think passengers would have a different experience.
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And no replacement of battery? I heard about some Tesla taxi that ran LA to Vegas that had replaced the battery. More risk of overheating on that route than in Finland :-)
@@zapfanzapfan the Tesloop one replaced the battery early on, about 200k KMs I think, it was the first high milage car and Tesla wanted it for research. Those early cars had some issues with high milage components, but from what I've read later ones are better.
9:55 That is a jaw dropping difference in fuel costs. It just shows how much diesel in London is going phut-phut out of the exhaust of FFVs when stationary.
Out in rural Sussex this morning and as we turned off Aroad in our wonderful Kia eNiro 4 a Dynamo Taxi 100% Electric was turning on to the main road. Wow Rural Sussex at last.
Putting aside all the hardware and tech for a moment, I find the most satisfying part of the project is the 'TAXI' logo on the door: I don't know if it's an original idea, but forming the horizontal line within the circle from a battery cell is an extremely elegant and aesthetically pleasing touch.
@@Mireaze clearly you have never driven an EV or even been in one. A suggestion for you. Speak from knowledge not ignorance. That way you will not embarrass yourself again by taking total crap.
@@williamarmstrong7199 I think you have completely misunderstood here. They were making a joke about taxi drivers and passengers, not discrediting EVs.
It's public service vehicles like this which will make a difference to the air quality in cities. Great story that the cabbie had more range after driving home. Good work Fully Charged.
It was completely inaccurate of him to say though. He was quoting the estimated range shown on the dashboard which alters as you drive...for example a quick blast along a motorway will drastically reduce the estimated range, although if you follow that with a more economical few miles the estimated range will shoot back up. The most accurate gauge on my Leaf is the Battery Percentage readout which can be seen to rise on a long downhill where the vehicle is purely regenerating. P.S: But yes you are spot on, electric vehicles are no longer the future, they are here & now 👍
I'm not a Brit and I've only been in one taxi in my entire life due to how I'm a "country boy" who hates city life. However, I'm so pleased and exited by this video, and I can only hope that this will happen in America SOON. I drive a compliance Kia Soul ev with horrible range, and if I can make it work while living in the country, far from a city, then there's no excuse for most people not to at least own a used ev. They're very affordable folks! Thanks again for your awesome videos. I'm both a fan and a patron supporter.
I have a late 2015 NV200 top spec 7 seat Diesel ULEZ complaint, purchased it for £12,000 last year. With only 6,450 miles on the clock. I can do about 460 miles on one tank :) I think electric would be cheaper, but the initial cost of the van is quite high
It would be interesting for you to do a Total Cost of Ownership comparison between buying the used ICE vehicle and a brand new Electric one. Depending on how long you plan to keep your used model and the cost of financing involved with one or both purchases the numbers might be very interesting.
London should assist any cab driver who wants their own electric cab some scheme to help them buy one. It might solve the cab shortage as well. The savings from fuel alone could make it viable for new cab drivers to set themselves up with their first cab.
@@damfadd No these are licensed drivers who have already passed the knowledge. Making it available only to those who have passed the “knowledge” would be fair for anyone who has already memorised the network.
@@davidlazarus67 From my limited experience of London black cabs with drivers who should have "the knowledge" some of them will still need Google. I remember back in the early 1990s being sat in the back whilst our Prof had lean forward to direct the black cab from St Pancras to the British Library Research & Development Department for a meeting. The driver had no know idea where it was (or the road it was on was). Luckily our Prof was a regular visitor so could direct them... and that was in the days before Google Maps was a twinkling in anyone's eye.
I use the MG5 as a taxi in a small town in the Midlands. I can confirm every thing above. In the winter I am getting around 2.6 miles per KWh with tye aircon and heaters on. Now in the spring we are getting between 3.6 and 4 miles per KWh we will get more miles per KWh. Every shift I get people who get into the car as anti EV and get out convinced they are the future. At least 1 person a week says they will go EV next purchase. Sometimes the next week!
It would have been nice to check out the cab space and driving position, happy to see that the workhorse of the taxi world now has an all electric option .
FYI it's £50k or £1k per month, which is not insane given that the fuel costs will be approx £400 pcm less than the traditional diesel taxi. Not cheap enough that uber drivers are going to start using them unfortunately.
The taxi business throughout the world needs to be pushed in this direction, especially in large cities. Thank God the vast majority haven't bee diesels!!!!! The same applies to short distance delivery vehicles. Put the charging stations in and they will come to them.
I've seen a few NV200 mini-camper conversions. Tight, but doable for 2 people, great for 1. The e-NV would be great, if you can cope with the range and slowish charging.
The most important part of this video is where Robert was talking about people taking a ride in an electric cab and then thinking about buying an electric car for the next vehicle that’s exactly what happened to us. I’m not sure we would’ve ever thought about it if the cab that turned up to take me to hospital six months ago hadn’t been electric. I’ve been interested in EV‘s for some years, but it was always a theoretical thing. On the way back the driver stopped at a charging point and showed me how the cab charge. I’m totally blind, and I could completely do it myself! Obviously until Elon musk releases the full self driving I won’t be driving it but…
In Iceland there is a taxi company called Hreyfill and they have about 10 full electric taxi (2 tesla model 3, 2 Mercedes EQV, 1 Audi E-tron 50 and 5 Volkswagen ID4. Hopefully next year I'll have my taxi license and I will have Maxus Euniq 7.
EV taxis can make so much difference in such a short time if they get on and swap to them now. Pretty sure we still don’t have a single EV taxi (or bus) in Worthing. We basically don’t have any green public transport options except the trains, which themselves haven’t changed in almost 2 decades.
Someone should explain to Mr. Heath (and to Robert that said nothing) how the range is computed in an EV. If it increases is not because of regen, but because the car has been driven at lover speed than previously computed. It’s basic physics, otherwise you have perpetual motion. Unless has been kept secret that London is on the top of a mountain. Admirable initiative but a taxi with 40 kWh battery is not going to be a good investment.
Right now, if it's fit for the daily mileage, driving conditions, shift patterns and available charging points then it's perfect. I would bet that battery tech will improve to the point where any shortcomings in the range department can be addressed with an upgrade, either physical or software.
Hi Bob. I would love to see a program on Electric car hire. Short-term hire of EV's for a day, a weekend or a week. Not long-term hire. I am interested in this because I plan to sell my car this summer and not replace it. You are quite right about cars just sitting on the driveway 90% of the time doing nothing and just a waste of money! I plan to use public transport as much as possible (especially now I have my Bus Pass) and only hire a car as and when I need to. I want that car to be a reasonably priced EV about the same size as my Golf and not a vastly too big and too expensive Tesla or a huge crossover vehicle that's way too big. So, a program on hire firms would be great. Thanks Alex
I concur Alex. I think if a lot of people wanting to give up their own car are aware of all the UK companies hiring EV's, they would just hire one when necessary and use public transport or a bike, walk, whatever when not wanting a vehicle. I think this is, unfortunately for a lot of people (especially those that love cars), the way that private/public transport is heading.
Most fleets taxis at my international airport are hybrids. Electric is on the way but changing again will require some incentive for the size of the fleet.
Great job, the only thing is the evalia doesn't have battery cooling, the env200 does (the van version), according to Nissan the evalia doesn't need it
Great to see it but as a taxi driver in rural devon the price tag of £50k is well beyond the reach of many cabbies that simply don't make enough money to make it economically viable - maybe in 5-10 years time when the second hand market becomes more saturated
I assume none will be bought outright but leased from the manufacturer or rented from a central taxi firm. So, how does the lease TCO compare to the current ICE taxis TCO doing the same routes? It is a business tool at the end of the day, so I expect the TCO will be either better with this cab or similar
@@patrickjr11 like my earlier comment alluded to this may work in areas with higher incomes such as cities but in other less affluent parts of the country a lease of £1000 a month is just not economically viable. Outside of cities it is more common to use normal passenger vehicles which is where I think the MG5 ev will become more prevalent with taxi drivers with its relatively low price point for an EV.
As is mentioned these are fleet vehicles intended for metropolitan areas. The prices will continue to come down or get a used one, since maintenance is low and wear and tear is less significant. Good luck mate
Mate, it’s beyond ours too! It’s yet another Borisism. Out of the blue in 2011, he suddenly announced as Ldn mayor we had to buy ZEC taxis from 2018. And here we are. Now he’s done it to the whole of the uk from 2030. But he’ll be long gone by then and we’ll be left with the costs
Great video, was feeling good about developments in the taxi world but then my peace was shattered by Nigel Farrage selling his doubtful products as soon as it finished. Can't you control what adds accompany you great work?
Robert, no body mention the advantages of EV. Like the EV does not use power when motor is not used. Another advantages is the is having more miles of charge then when finish your journey , due to stop, start, traffic in congested city traffic. EV, bring it on, in Australia.
@@robertjohnson-taylor1938 Hi thanks for the update on the new Nissan NV 250 it looks like a clone of the Renault Kangoo Which is not quite the same as the old NV 200
I'd love to know the overall difference between the cost of a "standard" London Black Cab, including all the taxes, fueling, insurance etc, compared to if the same cabbie or firm literally replaced it with an EV version. Or probably more importantly, how long it would take the cabbie or firm to "turn a profit" on the replacement cab. Yes, they are going to cost more up front, but I'd be surprised if it didnt pay itself back well within 2-3 years, and from there it would be quite the "profit".
I travelled in one of the LEVC version about 2 years ago. The driver was completely sold. Although it is a hybrid, the IC engine is only a range extender, so you can drive it in electric only mode. He drove for a fleet owner who had equipede their garage fro charging, and subsidised drivers having chargers at home. Two things had sold this driver, and apparently others, firstly it was equipped to a much higher standard than the diesel he had been driving, it was more comfortable as a work place and much easier to drive. But the killer was that it was cheaper to run by at least a factor of 10, and way more reliable. Passengers loved it because of the additional features, the comfort and the lack of noise. A quick look at prices suggests that although the upfront cost is 10% to 20% higher, because running costs are lower, leasing charges are about the same. The other interesting thing is that depreciation is much lower. It does indeed look like a win-win.
Using the example given, "2800 miles in August" and the price comparison he mention of 3p per mile, vs 25p per mile, that month, (25-3) x 2800= £616 *saving* !
@@lordpitnolen2196 I just take it that it's old tech. Now the warranty has expired the visits to a dealer are nil. Must say even though it's a late 24kw version, I have been over the moon with the rest of the car and since everything has moved on since, will have no qualms about getting a newer version when it's beyond repair.
Why manufacturers don't just allow for direct phone intergration is beyond me. They have to push their own subpar software on us. Your a car company, leave the software to software companies.
Genuine question: as traditional fuel has a HUGE % of taxation to pay for stuff we all use, do you envisage that electric will have to rise by ??% to pay for all the stuff currently paid for by fuel duty taxation? Does this then make EV less beneficial?
Electricity is used for loads of other stuff so it won't be taxed like petrol..the most likely solution to fill the £25 billion hole [from fuel duty and car tax] is micro tolls.. meaning those in the countryside who need a car will pay low toll charges per mile where as congested cities will have quite a high pence per mile..we are a few years off so by an EV now, but it will simply be a matter of linking a satnav meter that clocks your road usage.
@@julesdingle ok, I hear that. So what is being suggested is that poorer people, who usually live in towns/cities have to pay more for their electric for their e.v’s than the wealthier, who usually live in rural locations? At present of course huge, as some might say gas guzzling 4x4 etc at present pay far more rfl and indeed costs per mile in terms of tax, as those vehicles use more, yet the likes of me, who has a small car, pay zero rfl and very little tax as my cost per mile (as I use very little petrol) is lower. Do you feel that the mass of people will be prepared to wait circa 30 minutes to “top up” their car.. where will all those people go, whilst they wait. Genuine question... all best :)
@@IanParker a micro toll will be on miles of road use not electricity. Road duty is currently based on expected miles/CO2 emissions. The mass of EV users currently use 20/30 min top ups on long journeys and they go to the loo and the cafe services. In Norway shops, restraints and locations offer EV charging as an incentive to get people to visit. 100 years ago people asked where all these cars would be parked in cities and towns.
How can the government tell the difference between charging a car and a mobile phone? They may be able to tax solar panels, but I think that taxes will be on the cars themselves, not the fuel, in the future.
Sounds like they need to rotate the tires more often if only the fronts are worn out; that is assuming that the custom steering rack for the tight turning radius isn't the cause.
Can you please make a electric conversation car video in your new channel? Although your all video were very informative from to fully charge to fully charged plus too.
We can't imagine any taxi driver or company wanting to go back to an ICE vehicle after living with one of these. And think of the lives saved in cities....
I'm surprised Nissan aren't making them like this from the factory - you'd think major car manufacturers would be falling over themselves to win the taxi market.
One thing that annoys me is that no one talks about the cost of insurance for EV’s. I ended up having to change provider because my provider wouldn’t insurance the car, losing me money and then costing me an extra £200 more than my last car 🙄🙄 and believe me I searched long and hard.
Maybe not if purely city driving but I drive my 24kw leaf mixed urban & motorway so cannot really comment. I thought his claim at 4:55 was the most misinformed as he was quoting the infamous Nissan Guessometer. I think quoting battery percentage would have been more accurate. A definite BS moment there! Am amazed they are not more widely used as taxis & minicabs tbh. Have found my leaf to be amazingly reliable and lovely to drive.
I would love to change to electric, but they are just far far far too expensive. I couldn't even replace my current vehicle with a new diesel. Outside of London, many drivers are lucky to take 80 quid a day these days. I would have to take on another job just to pay for the Taxi. Its economically impossible. There are other issues also, Currently if I get a call for a long job and I'm low on fuel, I top up and go and pick up the customer, if you're low on charge, then you have to give the job away. I also have no way of installing an electric point at home. Its just crazy.
well for a start it wouldn't take much to kit out the big taxi ranks at the stations with chargers... but most black cab drivers dont live in the centre of town, they are out in chingford etc.. where houses with drive-ways are much more common... . i mean how often do you see one parked up on the street at night? and the verage speed of a car in London is 10mph, so you just dont have time to use 150 miles of range in a single day.... maybe if you get some heathrow runs.
This concept is good, but the vehicle is too large. Needs to start as CoE type of body, without that long nasty front hood and a slightly shorter wheelbase. It will be a perfect and still comfortable and useful vehicle. Rememeber this needs to be driven though cities and space is limited, you don't need a large mpv, unless you are an airport type of shuttle. So this fits blacklane ferry services rather than regular taxi, uber, bolt type of services.
Here's what's gonna happen as soon as they get all the gas and diesel taxis off the road they will jack your electric rates through the roof. Of that there is No doubt. So If you own a cab company you need to make plans for that.
3:34 40kW _hour_ battery, not 40kW. Grrr. Why can no-one get this right! (Robert got it right). Would have been nice to see a bit of the actual vehicle too.
In London, is it ok to approach a taxi rank and say "I want the fourth one cause it's electric"? (Assuming you are first etc.) I don't care about being seen in it, nobody there knows who I am anyway. But I do care where my money is spent.
Yes as the paying customer it is up to you. You may find a situation where the EV driver tries to insist you go to the front as they don’t want to come across as if they are stealing a job but ultimately it’s your decision.
This might look like an ordinary black cab, but this impressive Dynamo taxi is 100% electric!
Based on the Nissan e-NV200 Evalia, this is the only fully electric black cab that has been built with the driver in mind. The cheaper running costs, coupled with exemptions from London ULEZ and congestion charges, make this the most cost effective taxi currently available.
It delivers up to 187 miles range, can rapid charge in an hour and looks the business. Expect to see more and more of these in cities across the UK very soon!
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Since commenting on the Nissan Cab edition of Fully Charged + i've (today) had the occassion to drive one. I'm renting it for the next few weeks and i have to take back my assertions over the range prediction. I've had a similar experience although this was in town under ideal conditions. However, more than ever, i still say that this is vastly over priced. It is the crudest (technology aside) and most cramped cab i've ever driven. Although it claims to be a five seater, that would be extremely tight. The luggage space is inadequate, the ride is hard - i have to crawl over speed bumps and, on this example, the brakes are spongy and lack any progression - although it is possible to adapt. The drivers enviroment is also limiting, very little storage. Despite my harsh comments previously, i have been disappointed. I prefer driving it to the TX4 but i think passengers would have a different experience.
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Hard not to be impressed. a great product which can only benefit everyone. be nice to see more in the smaller towns as well.
There’s a mini-cab driver in Leeds running a 24kWh env200 and he seems to be doing okay with it.
In Finland most electric Taxis are Teslas. One of the drivers has over 800 000 km in it. He is aiming for million kilometers!
I remember reading about a Model S taxi in Oz that was already at 400,000 miles. That was a couple years ago.
Same in Sweden, lots of Tesla taxis but also the Mercedes EQC all electric SUV.
Pretty sure there are already at least two over 1m, one at Tesloop in California and the other in Sweden or Norway, I don't remember which.
And no replacement of battery? I heard about some Tesla taxi that ran LA to Vegas that had replaced the battery. More risk of overheating on that route than in Finland :-)
@@zapfanzapfan the Tesloop one replaced the battery early on, about 200k KMs I think, it was the first high milage car and Tesla wanted it for research.
Those early cars had some issues with high milage components, but from what I've read later ones are better.
9:55 That is a jaw dropping difference in fuel costs. It just shows how much diesel in London is going phut-phut out of the exhaust of FFVs when stationary.
Jaw Dropping??? How about... OH MY GOODNESS!!!!
ENV200s and Nissan Leafs are popular as Taxis here in Blackpool, Lancashire. You won't drive along the prom without seeing one.
One of the companies in Blackpool split the difference in fuel cost with their drivers, everyone was satisfied.
Out in rural Sussex this morning and as we turned off Aroad in our wonderful Kia eNiro 4 a Dynamo Taxi 100% Electric was turning on to the main road. Wow Rural Sussex at last.
I saw them in West Sussex too whole driving my e niro 4 plus..might have been between Pulborough and Worthing
Putting aside all the hardware and tech for a moment, I find the most satisfying part of the project is the 'TAXI' logo on the door: I don't know if it's an original idea, but forming the horizontal line within the circle from a battery cell is an extremely elegant and aesthetically pleasing touch.
John Heath is really good infront of the camera. Good to see that we're getting away from Diesel in London.
A big 👍 the future is here today.
Love this video. Well informed video. Nissan have hit the right spot with ENV200
What is there not too like about a 100% electric black cab?
The driver?
Or if you're a driver, probably the passenger.
@@Mireaze clearly you have never driven an EV or even been in one. A suggestion for you. Speak from knowledge not ignorance. That way you will not embarrass yourself again by taking total crap.
@@williamarmstrong7199 I think you have completely misunderstood here. They were making a joke about taxi drivers and passengers, not discrediting EVs.
It's public service vehicles like this which will make a difference to the air quality in cities. Great story that the cabbie had more range after driving home. Good work Fully Charged.
It was completely inaccurate of him to say though. He was quoting the estimated range shown on the dashboard which alters as you drive...for example a quick blast along a motorway will drastically reduce the estimated range, although if you follow that with a more economical few miles the estimated range will shoot back up. The most accurate gauge on my Leaf is the Battery Percentage readout which can be seen to rise on a long downhill where the vehicle is purely regenerating.
P.S: But yes you are spot on, electric vehicles are no longer the future, they are here & now 👍
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Brilliant let's clean up the air everywhere in UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I'm not a Brit and I've only been in one taxi in my entire life due to how I'm a "country boy" who hates city life. However, I'm so pleased and exited by this video, and I can only hope that this will happen in America SOON. I drive a compliance Kia Soul ev with horrible range, and if I can make it work while living in the country, far from a city, then there's no excuse for most people not to at least own a used ev. They're very affordable folks! Thanks again for your awesome videos. I'm both a fan and a patron supporter.
Looks good. I think the LEVC need to come up with a full BEV version of their existing electric taxi platform.
I’d say the other way round, have a diesel heater, and rex for these nissans
*Makes so much sense it's a 'no brainer'*
I have a late 2015 NV200 top spec 7 seat Diesel ULEZ complaint, purchased it for £12,000 last year. With only 6,450 miles on the clock. I can do about 460 miles on one tank :) I think electric would be cheaper, but the initial cost of the van is quite high
It would be interesting for you to do a Total Cost of Ownership comparison between buying the used ICE vehicle and a brand new Electric one.
Depending on how long you plan to keep your used model and the cost of financing involved with one or both purchases the numbers might be very interesting.
I really enjoyed this video... Though very simple, it was the best one from FC in a while, it seems to me.
London should assist any cab driver who wants their own electric cab some scheme to help them buy one. It might solve the cab shortage as well. The savings from fuel alone could make it viable for new cab drivers to set themselves up with their first cab.
and google.also .kills "the knowledge"
@@damfadd No these are licensed drivers who have already passed the knowledge. Making it available only to those who have passed the “knowledge” would be fair for anyone who has already memorised the network.
@@davidlazarus67 From my limited experience of London black cabs with drivers who should have "the knowledge" some of them will still need Google. I remember back in the early 1990s being sat in the back whilst our Prof had lean forward to direct the black cab from St Pancras to the British Library Research & Development Department for a meeting. The driver had no know idea where it was (or the road it was on was). Luckily our Prof was a regular visitor so could direct them... and that was in the days before Google Maps was a twinkling in anyone's eye.
I saw a fleet of 3 taxi's in Lyme Regis while on holiday. They are sooooooo good at going up and down the steep hills.
Can you also power filming lights and a 4k camera from the taxi? Asking for a friend
Every EV should come with proper electrical outlets.
I use the MG5 as a taxi in a small town in the Midlands. I can confirm every thing above. In the winter I am getting around 2.6 miles per KWh with tye aircon and heaters on. Now in the spring we are getting between 3.6 and 4 miles per KWh we will get more miles per KWh.
Every shift I get people who get into the car as anti EV and get out convinced they are the future.
At least 1 person a week says they will go EV next purchase. Sometimes the next week!
Hi I'm olso a taxi driver looking at MG5, what is your range in the winter urban and on motorway thanks.
MG5 is my favourite car.
It would have been nice to check out the cab space and driving position, happy to see that the workhorse of the taxi world now has an all electric option .
It's brilliant!!!! Buy one 😁👍🏽
@@NicknameSID i would love to buy one , but not right now.
Good episode. With any luck some brainiac over here in North America will catch on and we will start seeing something comparable in our large cities.
FYI it's £50k or £1k per month, which is not insane given that the fuel costs will be approx £400 pcm less than the traditional diesel taxi. Not cheap enough that uber drivers are going to start using them unfortunately.
Say less deposit and grant should be around 650 a month
Most uber drivers i see in London are moving to some form of electric now, they used to all be in hybrids
Great show .. perpetual motion 😅😂🤣 love the e-nv200 would buy another just hold there value so much so many idear so little time 🙁
It's hard to argue with saving money!
It is vehicles like this will drive the rollout of the high speed charger infrastructure national, which is improving, but more is required
I’ve just ordered one ✊🏴
The taxi business throughout the world needs to be pushed in this direction, especially in large cities. Thank God the vast majority haven't bee diesels!!!!! The same applies to short distance delivery vehicles. Put the charging stations in and they will come to them.
Thanks for another great video
I've seen a few NV200 mini-camper conversions. Tight, but doable for 2 people, great for 1. The e-NV would be great, if you can cope with the range and slowish charging.
Hope it gives a lift up to traditional taxi drivers overUber, and some extra money in their pockets. Futures looking good.
The most important part of this video is where Robert was talking about people taking a ride in an electric cab and then thinking about buying an electric car for the next vehicle that’s exactly what happened to us. I’m not sure we would’ve ever thought about it if the cab that turned up to take me to hospital six months ago hadn’t been electric. I’ve been interested in EV‘s for some years, but it was always a theoretical thing. On the way back the driver stopped at a charging point and showed me how the cab charge. I’m totally blind, and I could completely do it myself! Obviously until Elon musk releases the full self driving I won’t be driving it but…
In Iceland there is a taxi company called Hreyfill and they have about 10 full electric taxi (2 tesla model 3, 2 Mercedes EQV, 1 Audi E-tron 50 and 5 Volkswagen ID4. Hopefully next year I'll have my taxi license and I will have Maxus Euniq 7.
My mistake it is Maxus Euniq 5.
Great video. Would have been equally well placed on the main channel.
And then they went bust, and now 400 drivers have no warranty on the conversion parts. Brilliant 👍
EV taxis can make so much difference in such a short time if they get on and swap to them now. Pretty sure we still don’t have a single EV taxi (or bus) in Worthing. We basically don’t have any green public transport options except the trains, which themselves haven’t changed in almost 2 decades.
Someone should explain to Mr. Heath (and to Robert that said nothing) how the range is computed in an EV. If it increases is not because of regen, but because the car has been driven at lover speed than previously computed. It’s basic physics, otherwise you have perpetual motion. Unless has been kept secret that London is on the top of a mountain.
Admirable initiative but a taxi with 40 kWh battery is not going to be a good investment.
Right now, if it's fit for the daily mileage, driving conditions, shift patterns and available charging points then it's perfect. I would bet that battery tech will improve to the point where any shortcomings in the range department can be addressed with an upgrade, either physical or software.
My Dad says that London is a name which means a city of seven hills in Latin. Don't know where he got that from.
Living in London walking every day in London there have been very few Taxis on the road during the Lockdown with even now not that many around..
The rival firm LEVC will have to up their game... and offer a pure EV cab rather than a hybrid.
Hi Bob. I would love to see a program on Electric car hire. Short-term hire of EV's for a day, a weekend or a week. Not long-term hire. I am interested in this because I plan to sell my car this summer and not replace it. You are quite right about cars just sitting on the driveway 90% of the time doing nothing and just a waste of money! I plan to use public transport as much as possible (especially now I have my Bus Pass) and only hire a car as and when I need to. I want that car to be a reasonably priced EV about the same size as my Golf and not a vastly too big and too expensive Tesla or a huge crossover vehicle that's way too big. So, a program on hire firms would be great.
Thanks
Alex
I concur Alex. I think if a lot of people wanting to give up their own car are aware of all the UK companies hiring EV's, they would just hire one when necessary and use public transport or a bike, walk, whatever when not wanting a vehicle. I think this is, unfortunately for a lot of people (especially those that love cars), the way that private/public transport is heading.
I like that they aren't trying to go retro like that Chinese one
The United States also needs to adopt electric taxi, air port cars and other black car services.
Most fleets taxis at my international airport are hybrids. Electric is on the way but changing again will require some incentive for the size of the fleet.
is it available in Canada ?
Thank you!
Great job, the only thing is the evalia doesn't have battery cooling, the env200 does (the van version), according to Nissan the evalia doesn't need it
Great to see it but as a taxi driver in rural devon the price tag of £50k is well beyond the reach of many cabbies that simply don't make enough money to make it economically viable - maybe in 5-10 years time when the second hand market becomes more saturated
I assume none will be bought outright but leased from the manufacturer or rented from a central taxi firm. So, how does the lease TCO compare to the current ICE taxis TCO doing the same routes? It is a business tool at the end of the day, so I expect the TCO will be either better with this cab or similar
@@patrickjr11 like my earlier comment alluded to this may work in areas with higher incomes such as cities but in other less affluent parts of the country a lease of £1000 a month is just not economically viable. Outside of cities it is more common to use normal passenger vehicles which is where I think the MG5 ev will become more prevalent with taxi drivers with its relatively low price point for an EV.
@@davefromdevon I did a test drive in the MG 5. It's a really good car.
As is mentioned these are fleet vehicles intended for metropolitan areas. The prices will continue to come down or get a used one, since maintenance is low and wear and tear is less significant. Good luck mate
Mate, it’s beyond ours too! It’s yet another Borisism. Out of the blue in 2011, he suddenly announced as Ldn mayor we had to buy ZEC taxis from 2018. And here we are. Now he’s done it to the whole of the uk from 2030. But he’ll be long gone by then and we’ll be left with the costs
Brilliant! That's I have to say. Go green from France 🙂
Great video, was feeling good about developments in the taxi world but then my peace was shattered by Nigel Farrage selling his doubtful products as soon as it finished. Can't you control what adds accompany you great work?
Robert, no body mention the advantages of EV. Like the EV does not use power when motor is not used. Another advantages is the is having more miles of charge then when finish your journey , due to stop, start, traffic in congested city traffic. EV, bring it on, in Australia.
Great video
As the ENV 200 is now discontinued what will the taxi drivers use now great channel by the way
The e-NV200 is definitely still production. The NV200 has been replaced by the NV250.
@@robertjohnson-taylor1938 Hi thanks for the update on the new Nissan NV 250 it looks like a clone of the Renault Kangoo Which is not quite the same as the old NV 200
Way to go. Commercial ev's will provide the impetus for mainstream adoption. Profit margins also bigger. Now for the Tesla semi.......
Hi its abdul just seen the video like it but one think not mentioned how much is the cost of vehicle if some want buy it?
£48k. Only.
Very good
I love that the title includes asking us to subscribe! Lol
I'd love to know the overall difference between the cost of a "standard" London Black Cab, including all the taxes, fueling, insurance etc, compared to if the same cabbie or firm literally replaced it with an EV version. Or probably more importantly, how long it would take the cabbie or firm to "turn a profit" on the replacement cab.
Yes, they are going to cost more up front, but I'd be surprised if it didnt pay itself back well within 2-3 years, and from there it would be quite the "profit".
I travelled in one of the LEVC version about 2 years ago. The driver was completely sold. Although it is a hybrid, the IC engine is only a range extender, so you can drive it in electric only mode. He drove for a fleet owner who had equipede their garage fro charging, and subsidised drivers having chargers at home. Two things had sold this driver, and apparently others, firstly it was equipped to a much higher standard than the diesel he had been driving, it was more comfortable as a work place and much easier to drive. But the killer was that it was cheaper to run by at least a factor of 10, and way more reliable. Passengers loved it because of the additional features, the comfort and the lack of noise. A quick look at prices suggests that although the upfront cost is 10% to 20% higher, because running costs are lower, leasing charges are about the same. The other interesting thing is that depreciation is much lower. It does indeed look like a win-win.
Using the example given, "2800 miles in August" and the price comparison he mention of 3p per mile, vs 25p per mile, that month, (25-3) x 2800= £616 *saving* !
As mentioned a taxi for the inner city area.
When I looked at the nv200 the guy at Nissan said they don't do a bus version.
I hope that the drivers don't depend on Nissan standard satnav.
My LEAF came with year behind mapping in 2017 and can't be updated.
😹👍
My 'upgrade' was a phone holder and Google Maps!
So why do we pay Nissan?
@@lordpitnolen2196 I just take it that it's old tech. Now the warranty has expired the visits to a dealer are nil. Must say even though it's a late 24kw version, I have been over the moon with the rest of the car and since everything has moved on since, will have no qualms about getting a newer version when it's beyond repair.
Why manufacturers don't just allow for direct phone intergration is beyond me.
They have to push their own subpar software on us.
Your a car company, leave the software to software companies.
@@tmarritt Yep this
Does anyone know what they are replacing this in 2022 as Nissan have stopped producing these
Does this TfL's requirements for a tight turning circle?
Yes.
Brilliant. 👌
Fantastic! I want to invest in this company...
it makes sense to me to have EV taxi's, EV busses, and then offer up EV's as rental cars
Excellent.👍👍⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Genuine question: as traditional fuel has a HUGE % of taxation to pay for stuff we all use, do you envisage that electric will have to rise by ??% to pay for all the stuff currently paid for by fuel duty taxation? Does this then make EV less beneficial?
Electricity is used for loads of other stuff so it won't be taxed like petrol..the most likely solution to fill the £25 billion hole [from fuel duty and car tax] is micro tolls.. meaning those in the countryside who need a car will pay low toll charges per mile where as congested cities will have quite a high pence per mile..we are a few years off so by an EV now, but it will simply be a matter of linking a satnav meter that clocks your road usage.
@@julesdingle ok, I hear that. So what is being suggested is that poorer people, who usually live in towns/cities have to pay more for their electric for their e.v’s than the wealthier, who usually live in rural locations? At present of course huge, as some might say gas guzzling 4x4 etc at present pay far more rfl and indeed costs per mile in terms of tax, as those vehicles use more, yet the likes of me, who has a small car, pay zero rfl and very little tax as my cost per mile (as I use very little petrol) is lower. Do you feel that the mass of people will be prepared to wait circa 30 minutes to “top up” their car.. where will all those people go, whilst they wait. Genuine question... all best :)
@@IanParker a micro toll will be on miles of road use not electricity. Road duty is currently based on expected miles/CO2 emissions.
The mass of EV users currently use 20/30 min top ups on long journeys and they go to the loo and the cafe services.
In Norway shops, restraints and locations offer EV charging as an incentive to get people to visit.
100 years ago people asked where all these cars would be parked in cities and towns.
How can the government tell the difference between charging a car and a mobile phone? They may be able to tax solar panels, but I think that taxes will be on the cars themselves, not the fuel, in the future.
@@موسى_7 Black boxes will become mandatory for insurance. At that point the government can just tax your milage.
Sounds like they need to rotate the tires more often if only the fronts are worn out; that is assuming that the custom steering rack for the tight turning radius isn't the cause.
Can you please make a electric conversation car video in your new channel? Although your all video were very informative from to fully charge to fully charged plus too.
And it's wheelchair accessible.
My big question is are the fares reflective of the running costs?
When there is competition between EV drivers, the market will make that happen
@@موسى_7 Yes I suppose you are right however, most fares are set by county councils.
We can't imagine any taxi driver or company wanting to go back to an ICE vehicle after living with one of these. And think of the lives saved in cities....
Did I miss the discussion about purchase price comparison ? That’s surely a key bit on info ??
I just did a google and it looks like the electric cab is 48,000 and the lowest priced black cab is 55,000.
Operation cost of fuel so low must be really irking the fossil fuel industry.
How much is the Nissan Cab and how much The LEVC
Stop talking how good it is , what’s the purchase price ?
I'm surprised Nissan aren't making them like this from the factory - you'd think major car manufacturers would be falling over themselves to win the taxi market.
Where possible I will always get an electronic text as the are cleaner and much much quieter
Have invested in this through seedrs..feel good about contributing to the future
NEEDS A PULLOUT RAMP AND 6 SEATS IN THE BACK, AND AN OPTION FOR A FLIP SEAT IN THE FRONT
Will it bring down the cost of taking the taxi as well? :)
No, that’s governed by local authorities (as a maximum)
One thing that annoys me is that no one talks about the cost of insurance for EV’s. I ended up having to change provider because my provider wouldn’t insurance the car, losing me money and then costing me an extra £200 more than my last car 🙄🙄 and believe me I searched long and hard.
U are lucky. My insurance on taxi last yr was 5400 euro
I wish the US would speed up the rate of transition to EVs. Thanks
To be clear, this is a vehicle which is able to be purchased privately, but it has rarely been used as a taxi which it is being now
London taxis have very strict requirements, so it's a heavily modified nissan, will not bear much relation to the original vehicle internally.
Don't overlook the modifications to seating, steering etc.
but how much is a new battery ?
Having owned an env200 for 18 months, I can tell you this guy is massively exaggerating the range of his taxi's.
Maybe not if purely city driving but I drive my 24kw leaf mixed urban & motorway so cannot really comment.
I thought his claim at 4:55 was the most misinformed as he was quoting the infamous Nissan Guessometer. I think quoting battery percentage would have been more accurate. A definite BS moment there!
Am amazed they are not more widely used as taxis & minicabs tbh. Have found my leaf to be amazingly reliable and lovely to drive.
How do you know, if he is exaggerating while you have env200 not Dynamo?
@@bonsaiminigarden2218 Because it's 99.999% the same vehicle. If anything my old van should get better range as it's lighter.
Everything a driver wants -- No Toilet 🤣
How much are these cabs
why no video of the taxi itself?
Does cheaper running costs mean we will be able to get cheaper fares?
I would love to change to electric, but they are just far far far too expensive. I couldn't even replace my current vehicle with a new diesel. Outside of London, many drivers are lucky to take 80 quid a day these days. I would have to take on another job just to pay for the Taxi. Its economically impossible. There are other issues also, Currently if I get a call for a long job and I'm low on fuel, I top up and go and pick up the customer, if you're low on charge, then you have to give the job away. I also have no way of installing an electric point at home. Its just crazy.
Trouble with having more electric taxis is that there will be a black cab plugged into every fast charger in London.
well for a start it wouldn't take much to kit out the big taxi ranks at the stations with chargers... but most black cab drivers dont live in the centre of town, they are out in chingford etc.. where houses with drive-ways are much more common... . i mean how often do you see one parked up on the street at night? and the verage speed of a car in London is 10mph, so you just dont have time to use 150 miles of range in a single day.... maybe if you get some heathrow runs.
This concept is good, but the vehicle is too large.
Needs to start as CoE type of body, without that long nasty front hood and a slightly shorter wheelbase.
It will be a perfect and still comfortable and useful vehicle. Rememeber this needs to be driven though cities and space is limited, you don't need a large mpv, unless you are an airport type of shuttle. So this fits blacklane ferry services rather than regular taxi, uber, bolt type of services.
Don't denigrate the old technology it got us where we are now, but promote electric.
Here's what's gonna happen as soon as they get all the gas and diesel taxis off the road they will jack your electric rates through the roof. Of that there is No doubt. So If you own a cab company you need to make plans for that.
3:34 40kW _hour_ battery, not 40kW. Grrr. Why can no-one get this right! (Robert got it right). Would have been nice to see a bit of the actual vehicle too.
I want here in the United States
So your fare gets in a taxi at Bristol and says 'London please drive'. You say 'ah there's only one problem there sir............'
In London, is it ok to approach a taxi rank and say "I want the fourth one cause it's electric"? (Assuming you are first etc.) I don't care about being seen in it, nobody there knows who I am anyway. But I do care where my money is spent.
Yes as the paying customer it is up to you. You may find a situation where the EV driver tries to insist you go to the front as they don’t want to come across as if they are stealing a job but ultimately it’s your decision.
@@harryc505 Thanks!
Personally I wouldn't want to piss off the cabbies.