The present shortcuts were okay imo and while I understand that it’s just a bunch of family members making up a story off of the top of their heads but I wish that didn’t happen so the time machine plot wouldn’t happen. @@meygana
If they introduced it as a “family tells kids a story” movie and not dropping it on us randomly halfway through the movie, it may have actually been cute
It feels like they just gave up writing about the story because they couldn't find a continuation and used the exit hatch of rendering it all fake with the father daughter thing and it really made it more confusing and less enjoyable for me It's almost like they're projecting their uncreativity onto the character
Orion and the Dark isn’t a disappointing film. The second half detracted from the movie, but the first half of the movie was solid. It was still a good movie and not a complete waste of time.
I agree %100 with this review. You could just watch the first part of this fill were they become friends and then just turn it off.(because that the only good part)
These were my reactions to the movie in that specific order. Hypatia and the Time Traveler just ruined the movie. I stopped watching it 14 minutes before the ending. No regrets.
@quinzerrak4975 Exactly my point. I was expecting Adult Orion to go back to his house with Hypatia and put her to sleep and then he would also go to bed, staring at the ceiling, and then we would see the rest of the story, maybe because he didn't want to tell Hypatia what happened next because he thought she wouldn't understand the ending quite well and something. NOT SOME LAME TIME TRAVEL!
This was my exact reaction lol. I thought it would be a wholesome story. Then when it turned out to be a story told by adult orion, I thought he was telling his child experiences with the night entities. Then When hypatia added ideas, I thought dark was actually talking to her when she was too scared to sleep, and orion just forgot parts that were a long time ago. But when hypatia came in, I got kinda disappointed. Then I had a small stroke trying to figure out the end of the story lol. (Ignore how long this paragraph is lol I needed to vent)
I thought it was a really fun movie, but once we found out the story was being made up as we went and could be edited however they wanted, it took away all stakes, and made it feel fake, totally took me out of the story. I still think it was a fun ride till that point though. Still a decent movie but I wish they hadn’t made it just a story. I was hoping darkness would come and wink at old Orion and his wife at least, but that didn’t happen either. And the time machine erased all semblance of a good plot. It’s just like, yeah, it’s fixed now cause we said so.
For me this movie is the total opposite of Ruby gillman. RG was bland and didnt stand out because it was too formulaic while Orion had the tools like good animation and good ideas but it was too convoluted that it forgets to go back to the simple plot it started.
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
SAME!! Like, it could have worked if they focused more on Orion and Dark and kept the father, daughter thing out of it until the end! That could've been more wholesome!
The idea they were expressing was that the father didn't come up with an ending to the story, because it was just a silly bedtime story to tell his daughter, which is made clear from the flashes forward to the "present" time. It was the daughter's idea to implement herself into the story and, being a good father, he let her imagination run wild and put herself into the story. Then later when it's revealed that she doesn't know how to get out, it's because the story is no longer being told from the father's perspective, it's being told from the daughter's. We can imagine the daughter's son (Tycho) asking the same prodding questions that she did as a kid when SHE tells HIM the bedtime story (shown at the end). And the same way that the father didn't quite know how to tie up all the lose ends, neither did she because it's just a bedtime story, but the beauty came from letting the child come up with their own ending that defeats their fears. It's truly beautiful and it saddens me more people don't appreciate the sentiment portrayed in the last 15-20 minutes.
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
@@DORAisD34D exactly I loved Hypatia's poem but the ending was so out of context and I was literally waiting for a scene where Orion and Sally have a conversation or something in the end but no it was just a scene of them sitting together like c'mon like at least show us a tiny convo between them that would ATLEAST make the ending interesting
Because the grandchild of the main character found a way to finish the story, it wasn't necessary but it was a cute way to incorporate the generational change into the ending.
I also felt like it was a waste of time since it felt like i couldn't see the acutal ending of the movie and just a fanfiction continuation with someone elses self insert(it thecnically is..). After it turns out the story isn't real i stopped caring.
It felt like two different movies, one a supernatural tale about a kid facing his fears and the other a father bounding with his daughter. And I actually liked both parts but they didn't always mesh well. Even though it was less adventurous when we cut to adult Orion and Hypatia, it was still nice and wholesome to see a parent and child bound and get along, pretty much all animated films just has them arguing so this was a welcome change and I also loved how because some generational story pacing on good lessons rather than trauma like Encanto and Strange World. And I loved the stuff with kid Orion and Dark but it loses its meaning a bit when you realize that it really was all fake. So yeah I didn't hate the movie but I can understand why some people didn't love it.
THIS is exact my opinion too, I feel like the writers started having in mind a supernatural adventure, but for some reason they lost confidence on it and decide to take the plot from maybe some failed previous project and made thiz bizarre mix.
100% with you on that! Both the supernatural coming of age adventure and the bonding between family generations were pretty good ideas... But they did not mesh well together AT ALL!!
Exactly! And they didn't do anything with day, he could have been a real antagonist for dark ,maybe make him jealous of dark or something, he really was not explored in the movie
This movie was missing an antagonist. Should've painted Dark being a better counterpart compared to another entity which could've been Nightmare/Fear who spends time with the Dark but hates his time limit to cause trouble and therefore tries to get rid of the Dark through Orion.
This.......... IS WHAT I CALL A PERFECT IDEA !!! I mean we already seen that Orion is scared of mostly everything so having an antagonist like fear is perfect because if Orion throughout the movie could find out that Fear is the one who is constantly controlling his life and is the reason why he is afraid of Dark, it's because of Fear, he is the reason why Orion can't talk to Sally, he is the reason why he can't stand up to his bullies, This is an amazing idea and I wish the movie could have something like an antagonist, Overall this is my opinion
I kinda wish they went with a "clash" The Night Entitles wanted a job in the light, Dream even stated that she wanted to do DayDreams instead, they all should have clashed with other entities. Dream should have met her alter self, Day Dream, Sleep, should have met Nap, the fly thing (forgot his name) should have met Anxiety, Unexplained Nosies should have clashed into whatever Entity that would make day time sounds. This clash would further explain _why_ dark is important for them, they cannot physically exist with Light, because Light has his own Entities with him. There needs to be a balance. I was a little surprised to see that Light had none of his own entities.
Day entities that can clash! (They're opposites so i gotta make them like that) Dark= Light Dreams= Daydreams Sleep= Naps Insomnia= drowsiness or anxiety (either opposites or daylight equivalents) Unexplainable noises= White noise Quiet= serenity or calm (the cooler quiet)
The original story telling idea of overcoming the fear of the dark to his daughter did kinda work, in his room and his daughters room were easter eggs to the different character, his alarm clock (insomnia), her cushion (dreams) ect. I would have liked if they told the story without the time travel elements and left it ambiguous. Did Orion meet the dark and all of the night entities or was he inspired by the different furniture of a kids room to create his story
I liked the 1st half. I would have liked if they kept the supernatural theme and adult orion basically telling his actual past with the night entities coming over to say Hi at the end rather than all of it being a story
A cooler thing since Hypatia thought it was make believe Orion could’ve just said it was even though it actually happened, so whether it was real or not he would still get his point across.
I really wanted to enjoy this movie and everything was fine until the scenes of Adult Orion and his daughter and the time traveling really dragged this movie down. In my personal opinion, the ending was so obnoxious, feels so random, it’s was in the wrong movie and it made me to lost most respect in this movie. I hate that the entire time, this was all just a fanfic movie made by a dumb kid who has no idea what he’s doing. The scenes of Adult Orion telling a story to his daughter feels more like a sloppy version of the bedtime scenes from The Princess Bride. Like instead of making a setup of him telling the story to his kid before the movie starts, they instead just paused the movie by putting random things that literally came out of nowhere and there was no setup of how this story works (it feels like they’re trying to rip off the random scene of Cartman telling a Christmas horror story from South Park). This movie would be so much better off if Dark was the main focus and protagonist instead of Orion (since I honestly think he is one of Dreamworks annoying main characters next to Oh and probably better off as a sidekick). In my personal opinion, Orion and the Dark is now one of those movies where I watch it once but never come back due to how either awful or disappointing it is.
Fr tho the first act and last act feel like 2 different movies both tonally and thematically. Like even other Dreamworks movies such as Trolls 3 and Abominable wasn't this convoluted
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
The way I see it, they made it jarring on purpose, showing how it’s three different people that stitched the story together. One, a parent telling a story for his kid and gets stuck, the second, a kid who has interest in writing so it’s still a bit sloppy but heartfelt, and the third, a silly kid to took a prompt and RAN with it. I don’t think this is a phenomenal film by any means but I enjoyed it a lot! Personally a 7/10
first half: "oh yeah, this can work, basic good movie" second half: "oh shit, where is this going!?" they had a good start, but funbled the bag when wit hthe end they started going everywhere... to end nowhere
I thought that it was gonna be like a regular cartoon which is what really made the ending disappointing. I wanted to see Orion talk to his crush and over come his fears
I was enjoying the movie untill is revealed it's all made up, after this I lost all interest, the rest of the movie feels like a fanfiction and if you think about it really is lol
@ThePrincessCH but the addition of the grandchild felt so unnecessary. I was onboard with this being a Father's tale about how he got over his fear but the ending felt lackluster instead of satisfying
the problem was its inconsistency. went from overcoming your fears to ignoring them and having fun at last, then all the spirit things or whatever left and the dark guy ‘died’ because why not and now the plot was to bring dark back but then it was about adult orion and hypatatia then i forgot to mention it was suddenly entirely made up then the random ahh kid weve never seen before time tracels and now the problem is that there are space time monster things and blah blah blah orion is old now and a grandpa then missed an opportunity to bring back the spirits which was basically the enitre plot and then it ended. its as if every time it couldve ended or have started wrapping up they took a shot
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I don't think your opinion is unpopular though (almost quite the opposite). The movie gets mixed reception, so either side of opinion isn't going to be a hot take. I can see why many people aren't big fans of Orion and The Dark, but from what I've observed, many people, sometimes entirely, missed the point of what the movie is actually about and the real message the movie is trying to convey. This is actually about a family contributing to a fictional story about how Orion overcomes his fear. So first, the main focus (unfortunately) isn't going to be an exciting supernatural adventure as I and many people expected. Second, the inconsistent, messy, and sometimes wild aspects (especially near the end) in the movies are intentional (which again, aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea) because the story is improvised on the fly; The contributing story is definitely going to be imperfect and over the top (depending on who's telling the story). While I can see why people find the story confusing, I find this kind of writing rather clever since it captures the sense of a family improvised story very well. Granted, it was a shame the imaginative and interesting possibilities were sacrificed to serve this turn of narration (that makes many people upset), but I don't find the (intentionally flawed) story bad at all. In any case, I appreciate all the effort and ambition to experiment on the story rather than pumping safe and generic adventure that would potentially receive much more positive reception.
It was a good movie but the only thing I didn't like was the POV of the future. I wasn't really interested in knowing that it was a story and also when his daughter put herself in the story, it just didn't make sense anymore.
What’s weird is that the entire ending could’ve worked without Hypatia, they would barely have to rewrite anything. I see what they were going for but they really ruined the story and broke the immersion, even if it is a story within a story I was still interested
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
I wanted to love this movie because the animation of Orion's fears felt like it could top Croods 2 and Boss baby. Then the ending happened and ruined all my expectations and ended up being worse than those 2
@@noobmasterruben5167 if we cut out all the cringe scenes with the daughter and grandson, leaving only "saving the dark" and watching the night sky with that girl, then this would be a good film
The idea was great, but in my opinion they kinda ruined it with the daughter plot. I’m glad that someone agrees, because I seem like the odd one out, because the people who watched it with me really liked the whole generational thing.
Honestly i actually enjoyed the story for the most part. It became way too meta, i will admit that, but it was not until the last part witht the 3rd generation (when orion's daughter's child finished with a weird space timetravling sequence) that i was thrown off. Most of it, if not everything, felt very realistic when it came to how - not specifically a story should be written - but how a child would write a story. The best part was ofc made by orion as an adult, progressively got too on the nose with the whole 'a child wrote this part of the story'. But i had also alread it segmented into my mind that it wasn't going to he a good movie because i'd seen little to no advertising for it at all, which means dreamworks knew it was a lowball, so i could only really get neutral to positive reaction based on my expectations.
The first half I enjoyed. However…. The farther it went, the more the story began to break its own immersion for me.😅 The Orion outright saying it didn’t actually happen to his daughter was the first bit. Realizing that the entities weren’t real AT ALL, even in their own movie, just suddenly made them feel even less significant. It was even worse by the end when it suddenly became about time travel and pretty much ditched the theme of fear and the night entities altogether.😅 It was certainly realistic how kids make stories super complicated and usually aren’t that good because they get carried away with all their imagination, but it was already too realistic by then.😅 We watch these movies for a bit of escapism and the chance to focus and take a beautiful life lesson with us back to the real world, this movie kept us in the real world too much and undermined itself.😥
watched it about 3 hours before this vid and personally the movie was decent, at the start i thought of it as a diary of a wimpy kid, but it became a generic movie later
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
i loved it at the start but the end was so dang stupid 💀💀💀 it also acted as if orion and sally werent married and that it was a twist that they were like bro
No cap, the person who directed the movie, probably had mental issues throughout the movie. Plot was going surprisingly well until orion's daughter magically appears into the movie, idea of the time machine and the little time goober, was, no offense, stupid. I also kinda felt annoyed, after finding out that it was just a story that was told to orion's daughter. Other than that, my official movie rating is : 6.5/10
I watched the Movie. I kinda Liked the movie. Don't really Love or hate it tbh. I think The Idea was interesting if a bit weirdly done. Although I for some reason unlike a Lot of people here, I actually gained interest in the movie when They Showed that The story was being told by Orion to his Daughter. It was an interesting choice to do it this way. I understand the Story turning out to be not Real might be bad in some peoples eyes. After all, It is sorta like the "It was all just a Dream" kinda thing. Tho, This Movie made me question why we feel that way in the first place. I mean, At the end of the day, It IS a Movie, This story is fake. We all Knew that before watching the Film. So why do we feel like this after being told that? I mean, Even if The adventure was real, It would still technically be fake. I don't know, Just something to think about. haha. Have Lovely Day Everybody 🙏
Or you know its just a bad instance of adding too much of what is already a decent plot. Reminds me a bitof the movie Hypnotic actually. A movie that thinks adding more plot twists= better
I didn’t hate the movie at all, while I’m glad that Dreamworks is experimenting with different styles this style just doesn’t look good imo, and what happens later in the movie when the audience finds out that this is just all made up and it’s just a family making up a story as they go along was pretty forgettable and I lost my interest in it after that. I can’t exactly understand why people think this is a masterpiece in all honesty.
What was confusing about this movie was after the halfway mark, it turned to a time travel child stories, were his own daughter from twenty years in the future. It feels like two plots and I have no idea what it is telling.
I really liked a huge part of the movie and the way they represent the different night entities, especially Sweet Dreams. But I think Dreamworks really messed up the ending. Who in the studio got the idea of adding time travel to the movie?
Yeah, this movie was a great concept A child overcoming his fears thanks for the darkness of the night? Great idea And to give it a twist that it was actually a story he told their daughter all along and maybe change it through generations could've worked if they made it simpler and left the character's existence ambiguous. But the self insert the story does to represents filling the plot holes thanks to the family's generations, while logical and realistic, brings the entire story down by a thousand and removes all the stakes by making it a worst story and not important anymore Sucks cause the beginning was really good and they could've done the twist in a good way Great concept, bad execution
Sorry you didn’t enjoy it but I had a good time watching it I’m almost like you I think it’s okay not the best Dreamworks film out there it does have flaws but compare to some features I seen this one in my opinion just wanted as needs to be
DreamWorks has always been a mixed bag. I dont see a lot of people complain too much about their movies because again, they've always had ups and down the entire way. Unlike Disney or Pixar which have had consistent hits o er the years, it make their flops. Well. Flop harder. But when DreamWorks flops it's disappointing yeah, but its not so big because of their track record. but when they hit. BOI do they hit!
I like th first half of the movie, and I'm also fine with it being a dad telling his daughter a fictional story, but the ending did not need to be "save the world" and hypatia basically just appearing and doing the Tell don't Show
SAME!! Like, the beginning of the movie?! Great, very much so, setting up Orion's fear of everything and that whole thing in a very effective way both sweet yet surprisingly somber, then we get Dark and the other entities who are all really fun and creative characters and the highlight of the movie, and the bonding between Orion and Dark is genuinely cute and wholesome... Then that's it! A really fun and creative buddy movie, right?! YES, if the whole movie was JUST about them, the entities and the whole you know, CONQUERING YOUR FEARS THING! I'd say we have another Dreamworks banger! BUT THEN THE MOVIE KEEPS GOING!! As soon as the daughter thing came up not even in the middle of it, I was immediately thrown off! And then it kept going and going and the daughter is here now?! AND GRANDSON??!! I'm sorry! What happened to the cohesion? The fun buddy movie?! Now I'm officially out of it and I don't care about Orion or Dark anymore cause it seems like the movie just forgot about them, nothing makes sense anymore and things just happen, the whole Orion dissing Dark to the entities felt so off like, when did this happened?! They could've kept the whole "the movie is a story for his daughter" thing but until the very end! To ya know, show that he got over his fear or at least make it so we can tell that the story actually happened!! I hate that they kinda implied that it didn't! MAN! I really wanted to like this movie and the worst part is... That I did! The beginning and everything with Dark, Orion and the entities was so great and everything I expected but I can't even enjoy it case it's only like a fraction of the whole thing and the things I didn't care for take the rest of the movie's runtime!
I actually enjoyed this movie shockingly a lot! Yes it does get rather complex in the end and I definitely don’t plan on rewatching it in the future but I wouldn’t call it a huge disappointment despite its flaws because the themes are overall great and the world in this film is somewhat very pretty! But I do agree with all the points made in this video!
I liked the first half but then the argument before the climax thing, Orion and his daughter changing the story, Time Travel ruined it I thought "what the hell is going on?!" Sooo let's see Orion is a kid who's afraid of everything it's cliche but alright it works a school bully he fears Has a crush on a girl whom he hardly mentions again to Dark or the other entities We see he has a daughter 40 mins in He messes up the entities jobs and they get pissed and annoyed of him and Dark But it quickly gets resolved and Orion starts helping them and they start warming up to him and the movie wasn't even nearly over yet This movie man Idk what happened but it wasn't what I expected I lost interest after the time travel plot Dark hating on Light cause he makes people feel safe sounded like a good conflict And when they mention he will disappear if Light shines over him I was intrigued Then it happens and we cut to Orion and his daughter and when she asks what happened next and he replies "I don't know" wtf I thought it was gonna be a story where everything did happen and she asks "is that a true story?" Kind of thing The other entities I didn't care about as I thought I would The premise was interesting and the character designs was cool Insomnia though looks like Zipper from Rescue Rangers and a Inside Out character
I think the idea was. Ok . The only problem I had with it. Was the terrible character designs they literally just put 6 shapes together and called it a day. And I think the ending was quite cringe with that time travelling boy.
I think the movie does a good job showing a kid who has anxiety, with Orion's constant obsession over worst-case scenarios and skipping out on fun activities due to his paranoia. Besides that, the movie is alright, and I don't think that their decently accurate representation of someone with anxiety doesn't save the film, I think it does well.
The first part was really good, but kinda fell off after it was revealed that it was a story Although I really liked the part where quiet woke up Orion
This movie feels like if Rise of the Guardians forgot about Jack frost for 5 minutes and introduced a new OC in the finale to help him beat Pitch. Orion and the Dark is worse than Madagascar 3 and maybe even Trolls 1. Youre right this movie was a waste of time
I liked it up until the point it was revealed it was a story being told from a point in the future. I don’t know what it is about it, but it just seems fine it for me.
When I saw the ending, I was utterly confused. It seemed to me like the first half of the movie was alright, but the second half felt like it was written by gerbils with tiny typewriters.
this video is DEAD ON, like it really did want to love i thought it would best the movie i watched this year so far but at best its just mid , the beginning was great but the middle and end was god awful, also they said orion would be gone for 24 hours but in the film around 3 to 4 days fuckin passed!!!. they also mentioned how if the dark would die the big man upstairs would be upset, WHO THE FUCK IS THE BIG MAN UPSTAIRS. WHEN DARK DIED THE BIG MAN DOESNT EVEN FUCKIN APPEAR! the also imply that theres other day entities but ....WE NEVER SEE THEM. i wish we were in a alternate time line where this movie was amazing but atlas we live in this time line TwT where the movie is just .....eh
Maybe it’s because I had no expectations but I genuinely loved this film it was fun and seemed like you were watching what it’s like to play with a kid the story is always all over the place but you have so much fun playing along that’s what it felt like to me and I loved it
This movie makes no sense whatsoever. The feeling I get after this is that they started with a supernatural kid's story (which I was loving), weren't brave enough to go for it and made the "it was all imagination" move (what a terrible move, bcs everything built up until that point loses weight/meaning) and then just said "fuck it" and you know the ending. Simplicity is key. That was a storytelling ship wreck to watch. Never get so lost in new and "intelectual" ideas that you lose your characters. Who is the protagonist? What's the message of the movie? None of these basic questions can be answered, cause they wanted it all and ended with a waste of time. So disappointed.
Well my daughter liked it enough to want to watch it more than once, sort of. I keep my opinions to myself in front of her, but the movie annoys tf out of me, and the plot makes very little sense. It just aimlessly ambles along, and the sense of it being made up as it goes (the intention) is all too real, and unfortunately has a very negative impact on the story . Even my daughter loses interest by the end of it. It just has the ability to lose any interest that may have existed at the outset. It reminds me of the movie ‘Luck’. Another aimless one, though ‘Luck’ is still better. As for the characters.. The kid, his grown self, his parents, his daughter, all extremely, irritatingly, boringly, wholesome characters without any sense of humour or colour to their personalities. Just robotic examples of how good people are supposed to be apparently.. So dull. I’m a good person, but people like that cause my eyes to glaze over. Such uninteresting, spineless personalities. But that’s what good people are I guess right? 🤢🤮
OPEN with the story being just a bedtime story. Have the opening narrated by the adult Orion, or maybe even the adult daughter. It's not the generation thing itself is bad; it's execution.
When the aliens rolled in I just stopped watching. 14 minutes away from the emd, and I just left it. The aliens just came out of nowhere! Also that scene with Sleep doing her job should be removed before any kid sees it 💀💀💀
Well, the unpopularity of your opinions is why I love them so much! Unlike others who blatantly steal from others' reviews, you form your own! But me personally? This movie was pretty good!
It really seems like this movie over-invested in the beginning plot. When it switched over to a bed-time story in a different time periods, i started to feel like it wasnt the same movie i thought it would be.
It had very good messages buuut the presentation could've been better if you wanted those messages to REALLY stick. Also PLEASE stop setting the new Dreamworks bar to The Last Wish. Its an amazing movie and one of those rare studio masterpieces. Its not a good image to set at the start of a criticism
I didn’t even finish it. It just got so slow and tengenty and boring. It didn’t even keep my daughter interested at all. It wasn’t even worth the 45 minutes I spent watching.
The reason people say it's good is because Orion and the dark helped us understand the connections with family and the importance of time if you dig deeper.
The idea was phenomenal, but the execution was terrible. Just very VERY bad pacing. A true disappointment, because the story was going all over the place.
i agree that having it all be a story being told to a kid was just awful. it's like they knew they couldn't make this into a sequel so they had to get rid of all the world building. and it's a shame too because i felt like if it were real, it would have helped a lot of fearful children with anxiety. here's a rewrite: orion meets dark, dark tells him to stop being a baby, he shows him the wonders of the night and how beautiful the world can be at night. orion meet insomnia and noise, at first he hates them, basically blaming them for making him so scared of everything, only for dark to point out that like him, they were just doing thier jobs. later on the film, orion accepts his flaws and tries to become braver, he helps insomnia because of his head has more anxious thoughts than anyone else, and he helps noise realizing it's fun to scare people. when the next morning arrives, he is more confident, even helping his crush with a fear she has. he grows up to become a horror comic artist. he tells this story to his daughter who doesn't believe him, dark arrives and asks if it's okay to meet his daughter, orion gives him a thumbs up and the movie ends with orion's daughter and dark going on a similar journey.
So Dreamworks missed the ball this time? Not a great start to the year. Hoping Disney's 2024 animated film blows us away after how disappointing "Wish" was.
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
@@ThePrincessCHi havent met anybody who has strong anxiety like me but this movie helped me to speak up more and be more confident with my skills and stuff orion is just a comfort character to me
I feel like it was meant to cater more to the people with strong anxiety like Orion and his family, which is why it's much quieter than most other DreamWork films.
No waht are U talking about? This movie had so much going for it that its basically worse than other lesser Dreamworkd movies like Madagascar 1 & Trolls
I feel like it was meant to cater more to the people with strong anxiety like Orion and his family, which is why it's much quieter than most other DreamWork films.
Nah, those words give more realistic dialog. No one uses "safe words" in every sentence, not even kids. And if you count crap and hell as swear words, you need to grow up.
Aww i liked this movie 😭 It had some flaws, but i wouldnt call it awful. I like the ending, bc it sounds like Hypatia and Orion just rambling on and adding other stuff to the story
Why does the "twist" with the fact that the story is fictional spoil the whole movie? I really don't understand what the problem is. Why do people want the film to be a banal story with the most banal metaphor for overcoming fear that I can think of? Without the fact that the whole story is just a bedtime story, the whole ent of this world just doesn't work. At the moment with time travel, I thought about it, but continued to look further. And the finale didn't disappoint me. It is very touching, and in a sense philosophical. Personally, my rating is 7/10, but apparently people expect "Pixar" in the worst possible way:/
The movie was good from the start and middle, but shoving Hypatia into the story wasn’t a good idea and the ending really confused me. But it is still a good movie compared to Kung fu Panda 4 and Megamind 2
I’m so done with this movie, if they really wanted to go on the bedtime story route, they should have made the scene where Hypatia is with older Orion in the very beginning of this movie ! Just like in Edward scissors hands ! And why not have a scene where Hypatia asks "but did this really happen to you dad ?" and then Orion says something like "idk what do you think ?" . This movie makes me just so… AHH CAN’T IT’S SO WASTED !!!! >:(
Your review is funny as hell. A film written by Charlie Kaufman who wrote Synecdoche, New York, Being John Malkovich, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and Adaptation, and you expected a light hearted fun little film. You really don’t look into the actual creative side of projects, just the company that brought it to you
I’m sorry what? Dreamworks isn’t gonna be animating anymore but instead outsourcing??? Wtf kind of logic is that????? This film was a budget title, straight to streaming, the modern equivalent of straight-to-DVD. OF COURSE they will continue to animate the bigger budget movies in-house because what else are they gonna do with that? They wouldn’t waste precious resources and talent with their in house animation department on something straight to streaming dude.
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The idea wasn't bad, the execution was the problem
i was gonna say something about megamind 2 but i forgot
I hated the "present" shortcuts and gosh that forced ending with the time machine plot😢😢😢.
true
The present shortcuts were okay imo and while I understand that it’s just a bunch of family members making up a story off of the top of their heads but I wish that didn’t happen so the time machine plot wouldn’t happen. @@meygana
I SAID THAT TO MY GIRLFRIEND WORD FOR WORD! BAR FOR BAR!
If they introduced it as a “family tells kids a story” movie and not dropping it on us randomly halfway through the movie, it may have actually been cute
Honestly if they would have ditched the father daughter part and gone with the raw story it would've been much simpler
It feels like they just gave up writing about the story because they couldn't find a continuation and used the exit hatch of rendering it all fake with the father daughter thing and it really made it more confusing and less enjoyable for me
It's almost like they're projecting their uncreativity onto the character
Apparently, this is how Kaufman writes stories.
Orion and the Dark isn’t a disappointing film. The second half detracted from the movie, but the first half of the movie was solid. It was still a good movie and not a complete waste of time.
I agree %100 with this review. You could just watch the first part of this fill were they become friends and then just turn it off.(because that the only good part)
when it started off: 😄
when it turned out to be a story told to a kid: 🙂
when hypatia came in: 😐
when the time traveler came in: 😒
These were my reactions to the movie in that specific order. Hypatia and the Time Traveler just ruined the movie. I stopped watching it 14 minutes before the ending. No regrets.
@quinzerrak4975 Exactly my point. I was expecting Adult Orion to go back to his house with Hypatia and put her to sleep and then he would also go to bed, staring at the ceiling, and then we would see the rest of the story, maybe because he didn't want to tell Hypatia what happened next because he thought she wouldn't understand the ending quite well and something. NOT SOME LAME TIME TRAVEL!
Exactly
This was my exact reaction lol.
I thought it would be a wholesome story.
Then when it turned out to be a story told by adult orion, I thought he was telling his child experiences with the night entities.
Then When hypatia added ideas, I thought dark was actually talking to her when she was too scared to sleep, and orion just forgot parts that were a long time ago.
But when hypatia came in, I got kinda disappointed.
Then I had a small stroke trying to figure out the end of the story lol.
(Ignore how long this paragraph is lol I needed to vent)
its a story told by different children.... thats why stuff happened
I thought it was a really fun movie, but once we found out the story was being made up as we went and could be edited however they wanted, it took away all stakes, and made it feel fake, totally took me out of the story. I still think it was a fun ride till that point though. Still a decent movie but I wish they hadn’t made it just a story. I was hoping darkness would come and wink at old Orion and his wife at least, but that didn’t happen either. And the time machine erased all semblance of a good plot. It’s just like, yeah, it’s fixed now cause we said so.
For me this movie is the total opposite of Ruby gillman. RG was bland and didnt stand out because it was too formulaic while Orion had the tools like good animation and good ideas but it was too convoluted that it forgets to go back to the simple plot it started.
Honestly ever since Hypatia no clipped her way into the story my satisfaction plummeted
Same it made zero sence and went down from.there
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
SAME!! Like, it could have worked if they focused more on Orion and Dark and kept the father, daughter thing out of it until the end! That could've been more wholesome!
The idea they were expressing was that the father didn't come up with an ending to the story, because it was just a silly bedtime story to tell his daughter, which is made clear from the flashes forward to the "present" time. It was the daughter's idea to implement herself into the story and, being a good father, he let her imagination run wild and put herself into the story. Then later when it's revealed that she doesn't know how to get out, it's because the story is no longer being told from the father's perspective, it's being told from the daughter's. We can imagine the daughter's son (Tycho) asking the same prodding questions that she did as a kid when SHE tells HIM the bedtime story (shown at the end). And the same way that the father didn't quite know how to tie up all the lose ends, neither did she because it's just a bedtime story, but the beauty came from letting the child come up with their own ending that defeats their fears. It's truly beautiful and it saddens me more people don't appreciate the sentiment portrayed in the last 15-20 minutes.
You guys realiza its based off a book
The idea and the first half of the movie was fine, the second half felt like they written themselves into a corner.
@@Noneya409shit. Because this can only come out through the ass*
BEFORE:Why wasn’t this in theaters
AFTER: I can see why it wasn’t in theaters
It was a good movie, just not great. People hating were just expecting puss in boots
Makes me wish I was watching Capt Underpants or Home instead.
@@MrBooonetruth
@@noobmasterruben5167 those are good movies
@@anonymouslucario285 but not convoluted tho
I enjoyed this movie until the ending. How did a story about overcoming your fears turn into a time travel story at the end?
I got kind of confused about the ending as well
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
@@DORAisD34D exactly I loved Hypatia's poem but the ending was so out of context and I was literally waiting for a scene where Orion and Sally have a conversation or something in the end but no it was just a scene of them sitting together like c'mon like at least show us a tiny convo between them that would ATLEAST make the ending interesting
Because the grandchild of the main character found a way to finish the story, it wasn't necessary but it was a cute way to incorporate the generational change into the ending.
I definitely find that concept sweet, overall I thought this movie was good@@XDpandas
I also felt like it was a waste of time since it felt like i couldn't see the acutal ending of the movie and just a fanfiction continuation with someone elses self insert(it thecnically is..). After it turns out the story isn't real i stopped caring.
FR, after Orion I wanted to go back and watch Eternal Sunshine to remind me what a good Kaufman film looks like
It felt like two different movies, one a supernatural tale about a kid facing his fears and the other a father bounding with his daughter. And I actually liked both parts but they didn't always mesh well. Even though it was less adventurous when we cut to adult Orion and Hypatia, it was still nice and wholesome to see a parent and child bound and get along, pretty much all animated films just has them arguing so this was a welcome change and I also loved how because some generational story pacing on good lessons rather than trauma like Encanto and Strange World. And I loved the stuff with kid Orion and Dark but it loses its meaning a bit when you realize that it really was all fake. So yeah I didn't hate the movie but I can understand why some people didn't love it.
THIS is exact my opinion too, I feel like the writers started having in mind a supernatural adventure, but for some reason they lost confidence on it and decide to take the plot from maybe some failed previous project and made thiz bizarre mix.
Agreed!
100% with you on that! Both the supernatural coming of age adventure and the bonding between family generations were pretty good ideas... But they did not mesh well together AT ALL!!
Exactly! And they didn't do anything with day, he could have been a real antagonist for dark ,maybe make him jealous of dark or something, he really was not explored in the movie
Absolutely agreed
This movie was missing an antagonist. Should've painted Dark being a better counterpart compared to another entity which could've been Nightmare/Fear who spends time with the Dark but hates his time limit to cause trouble and therefore tries to get rid of the Dark through Orion.
This..........
IS WHAT I CALL A PERFECT IDEA !!!
I mean we already seen that Orion is scared of mostly everything so having an antagonist like fear is perfect because if Orion throughout the movie could find out that Fear is the one who is constantly controlling his life and is the reason why he is afraid of Dark, it's because of Fear, he is the reason why Orion can't talk to Sally, he is the reason why he can't stand up to his bullies, This is an amazing idea and I wish the movie could have something like an antagonist, Overall this is my opinion
Yeah that would’ve been way better
The movie just doesn’t have any stakes once they reveal it’s all made up
I don’t know why but this felt like a pixar movie to me
I kinda wish they went with a "clash"
The Night Entitles wanted a job in the light, Dream even stated that she wanted to do DayDreams instead, they all should have clashed with other entities. Dream should have met her alter self, Day Dream, Sleep, should have met Nap, the fly thing (forgot his name) should have met Anxiety, Unexplained Nosies should have clashed into whatever Entity that would make day time sounds.
This clash would further explain _why_ dark is important for them, they cannot physically exist with Light, because Light has his own Entities with him. There needs to be a balance.
I was a little surprised to see that Light had none of his own entities.
Day entities that can clash! (They're opposites so i gotta make them like that)
Dark= Light
Dreams= Daydreams
Sleep= Naps
Insomnia= drowsiness or anxiety (either opposites or daylight equivalents)
Unexplainable noises= White noise
Quiet= serenity or calm (the cooler quiet)
the funny thing is, they do mention Day entities in the movie but they never elaborate it on it at all
The original story telling idea of overcoming the fear of the dark to his daughter did kinda work, in his room and his daughters room were easter eggs to the different character, his alarm clock (insomnia), her cushion (dreams) ect. I would have liked if they told the story without the time travel elements and left it ambiguous.
Did Orion meet the dark and all of the night entities or was he inspired by the different furniture of a kids room to create his story
I liked the 1st half. I would have liked if they kept the supernatural theme and adult orion basically telling his actual past with the night entities coming over to say Hi at the end rather than all of it being a story
A cooler thing since Hypatia thought it was make believe Orion could’ve just said it was even though it actually happened, so whether it was real or not he would still get his point across.
It was going straight to Netflix to begin with so Dreamworks knew this was gonna fail.
it was so avoidable though
@@Ultraname meh
I really wanted to enjoy this movie and everything was fine until the scenes of Adult Orion and his daughter and the time traveling really dragged this movie down. In my personal opinion, the ending was so obnoxious, feels so random, it’s was in the wrong movie and it made me to lost most respect in this movie. I hate that the entire time, this was all just a fanfic movie made by a dumb kid who has no idea what he’s doing.
The scenes of Adult Orion telling a story to his daughter feels more like a sloppy version of the bedtime scenes from The Princess Bride. Like instead of making a setup of him telling the story to his kid before the movie starts, they instead just paused the movie by putting random things that literally came out of nowhere and there was no setup of how this story works (it feels like they’re trying to rip off the random scene of Cartman telling a Christmas horror story from South Park).
This movie would be so much better off if Dark was the main focus and protagonist instead of Orion (since I honestly think he is one of Dreamworks annoying main characters next to Oh and probably better off as a sidekick).
In my personal opinion, Orion and the Dark is now one of those movies where I watch it once but never come back due to how either awful or disappointing it is.
This movie was good just the end I was getting confused
Fr tho the first act and last act feel like 2 different movies both tonally and thematically. Like even other Dreamworks movies such as Trolls 3 and Abominable wasn't this convoluted
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
The way I see it, they made it jarring on purpose, showing how it’s three different people that stitched the story together. One, a parent telling a story for his kid and gets stuck, the second, a kid who has interest in writing so it’s still a bit sloppy but heartfelt, and the third, a silly kid to took a prompt and RAN with it.
I don’t think this is a phenomenal film by any means but I enjoyed it a lot! Personally a 7/10
@@novamythic_8 Exactly how I saw it. Though, I wish the story Orion was telling actually happened.
@@novamythic_8 good for you. The movie is still painfully average tho 😞
first half: "oh yeah, this can work, basic good movie"
second half: "oh shit, where is this going!?"
they had a good start, but funbled the bag when wit hthe end they started going everywhere... to end nowhere
Kinda reminds me of The Flash with how much of a mess the 3rd act is
*Does anyone else think that Orion looks exactly like the boy from “In a Heartbeat”? (That gay animated short film from like 2017/2018).*
I remember watching that short a long time ago and it took me way to long to find out the guy was gay.
yeah but he turned into a midget and likes girls now
Omfg, Orion is gay
I thought that it was gonna be like a regular cartoon which is what really made the ending disappointing. I wanted to see Orion talk to his crush and over come his fears
I was enjoying the movie untill is revealed it's all made up, after this I lost all interest, the rest of the movie feels like a fanfiction and if you think about it really is lol
Seriously the trailer was so misleading for this movie
@@noobmasterruben5167 True :/
it was kind boring. like i wouldnt rewatch it for fun though.
The more you talked about the story the more and more my mouth gaped open and my brain hurt LMAO why did they make it so needlessly complicated?
This movie feels like 3 or 4 writers trying to one up each other by adding more instead of going along with what the first writer intended
@noobmasterruben5167 Considering it's mainly three people adding to the story, I think it's supposed to feel that way.
@ThePrincessCH but the addition of the grandchild felt so unnecessary. I was onboard with this being a Father's tale about how he got over his fear but the ending felt lackluster instead of satisfying
@@noobmasterruben5167no, it's literally just how Charlie Kauffman writes fsr
@@noobmasterruben5167agreed
the problem was its inconsistency. went from overcoming your fears to ignoring them and having fun at last, then all the spirit things or whatever left and the dark guy ‘died’ because why not and now the plot was to bring dark back but then it was about adult orion and hypatatia then i forgot to mention it was suddenly entirely made up then the random ahh kid weve never seen before time tracels and now the problem is that there are space time monster things and blah blah blah orion is old now and a grandpa then missed an opportunity to bring back the spirits which was basically the enitre plot and then it ended. its as if every time it couldve ended or have started wrapping up they took a shot
Yeah it’s a REALLY weird movie.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I don't think your opinion is unpopular though (almost quite the opposite). The movie gets mixed reception, so either side of opinion isn't going to be a hot take. I can see why many people aren't big fans of Orion and The Dark, but from what I've observed, many people, sometimes entirely, missed the point of what the movie is actually about and the real message the movie is trying to convey.
This is actually about a family contributing to a fictional story about how Orion overcomes his fear. So first, the main focus (unfortunately) isn't going to be an exciting supernatural adventure as I and many people expected. Second, the inconsistent, messy, and sometimes wild aspects (especially near the end) in the movies are intentional (which again, aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea) because the story is improvised on the fly; The contributing story is definitely going to be imperfect and over the top (depending on who's telling the story).
While I can see why people find the story confusing, I find this kind of writing rather clever since it captures the sense of a family improvised story very well. Granted, it was a shame the imaginative and interesting possibilities were sacrificed to serve this turn of narration (that makes many people upset), but I don't find the (intentionally flawed) story bad at all. In any case, I appreciate all the effort and ambition to experiment on the story rather than pumping safe and generic adventure that would potentially receive much more positive reception.
It was a good movie but the only thing I didn't like was the POV of the future. I wasn't really interested in knowing that it was a story and also when his daughter put herself in the story, it just didn't make sense anymore.
What’s weird is that the entire ending could’ve worked without Hypatia, they would barely have to rewrite anything. I see what they were going for but they really ruined the story and broke the immersion, even if it is a story within a story I was still interested
I was enjoying the movie until time travel that just came out of nowhere it ruined the story man 😢😢
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
I wanted to love this movie because the animation of Orion's fears felt like it could top Croods 2 and Boss baby.
Then the ending happened and ruined all my expectations and ended up being worse than those 2
@@DORAisD34Dypuge just copy pasted that on like every comment lmao
@@noobmasterruben5167 if we cut out all the cringe scenes with the daughter and grandson, leaving only "saving the dark" and watching the night sky with that girl, then this would be a good film
Thank you. I felt so weird not liking this movie much at all then reading all the positive reviews. And you make good points too instead of ranting.
The idea was great, but in my opinion they kinda ruined it with the daughter plot. I’m glad that someone agrees, because I seem like the odd one out, because the people who watched it with me really liked the whole generational thing.
Honestly i actually enjoyed the story for the most part. It became way too meta, i will admit that, but it was not until the last part witht the 3rd generation (when orion's daughter's child finished with a weird space timetravling sequence) that i was thrown off. Most of it, if not everything, felt very realistic when it came to how - not specifically a story should be written - but how a child would write a story. The best part was ofc made by orion as an adult, progressively got too on the nose with the whole 'a child wrote this part of the story'. But i had also alread it segmented into my mind that it wasn't going to he a good movie because i'd seen little to no advertising for it at all, which means dreamworks knew it was a lowball, so i could only really get neutral to positive reaction based on my expectations.
The first half I enjoyed. However…. The farther it went, the more the story began to break its own immersion for me.😅 The Orion outright saying it didn’t actually happen to his daughter was the first bit. Realizing that the entities weren’t real AT ALL, even in their own movie, just suddenly made them feel even less significant. It was even worse by the end when it suddenly became about time travel and pretty much ditched the theme of fear and the night entities altogether.😅 It was certainly realistic how kids make stories super complicated and usually aren’t that good because they get carried away with all their imagination, but it was already too realistic by then.😅 We watch these movies for a bit of escapism and the chance to focus and take a beautiful life lesson with us back to the real world, this movie kept us in the real world too much and undermined itself.😥
watched it about 3 hours before this vid and personally the movie was decent, at the start i thought of it as a diary of a wimpy kid, but it became a generic movie later
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
i loved it at the start but the end was so dang stupid 💀💀💀 it also acted as if orion and sally werent married and that it was a twist that they were like bro
nt my cup of tea, Iost DreamWorks trust
I haven’t heard of this movie and I will have to check it out and see it I agree with your opinions.
No cap, the person who directed the movie, probably had mental issues throughout the movie.
Plot was going surprisingly well until orion's daughter magically appears into the movie, idea of the time machine and the little time goober, was, no offense, stupid.
I also kinda felt annoyed, after finding out that it was just a story that was told to orion's daughter.
Other than that, my official movie rating is :
6.5/10
I watched the Movie. I kinda Liked the movie. Don't really Love or hate it tbh. I think The Idea was interesting if a bit weirdly done. Although I for some reason unlike a Lot of people here, I actually gained interest in the movie when They Showed that The story was being told by Orion to his Daughter. It was an interesting choice to do it this way.
I understand the Story turning out to be not Real might be bad in some peoples eyes. After all, It is sorta like the "It was all just a Dream" kinda thing. Tho, This Movie made me question why we feel that way in the first place. I mean, At the end of the day, It IS a Movie, This story is fake. We all Knew that before watching the Film. So why do we feel like this after being told that? I mean, Even if The adventure was real, It would still technically be fake. I don't know, Just something to think about. haha.
Have Lovely Day Everybody 🙏
Or you know its just a bad instance of adding too much of what is already a decent plot. Reminds me a bitof the movie Hypnotic actually. A movie that thinks adding more plot twists= better
I didn’t hate the movie at all, while I’m glad that Dreamworks is experimenting with different styles this style just doesn’t look good imo, and what happens later in the movie when the audience finds out that this is just all made up and it’s just a family making up a story as they go along was pretty forgettable and I lost my interest in it after that. I can’t exactly understand why people think this is a masterpiece in all honesty.
The movie was great, the end was a lil bit goofy though. Other than that it was a good film
Now tell me “who’s having a bad start in their anniversary?” Now!
What was confusing about this movie was after the halfway mark, it turned to a time travel child stories, were his own daughter from twenty years in the future. It feels like two plots and I have no idea what it is telling.
I think it's just supposed to be a quiet film that's just supposed to be. It is likely for people with anxiety issues like Orion and his family.
I really liked a huge part of the movie and the way they represent the different night entities, especially Sweet Dreams. But I think Dreamworks really messed up the ending. Who in the studio got the idea of adding time travel to the movie?
You know what else is a disappointment? Not having Miraculous Retrospectives.
Yeah, this movie was a great concept
A child overcoming his fears thanks for the darkness of the night? Great idea
And to give it a twist that it was actually a story he told their daughter all along and maybe change it through generations could've worked if they made it simpler and left the character's existence ambiguous.
But the self insert the story does to represents filling the plot holes thanks to the family's generations, while logical and realistic, brings the entire story down by a thousand and removes all the stakes by making it a worst story and not important anymore
Sucks cause the beginning was really good and they could've done the twist in a good way
Great concept, bad execution
It's like writers just gave up half way and just shat over the rest of the movie.
Sorry you didn’t enjoy it but I had a good time watching it I’m almost like you I think it’s okay not the best Dreamworks film out there it does have flaws but compare to some features I seen this one in my opinion just wanted as needs to be
DreamWorks has always been a mixed bag. I dont see a lot of people complain too much about their movies because again, they've always had ups and down the entire way. Unlike Disney or Pixar which have had consistent hits o er the years, it make their flops. Well. Flop harder. But when DreamWorks flops it's disappointing yeah, but its not so big because of their track record. but when they hit. BOI do they hit!
I like th first half of the movie, and I'm also fine with it being a dad telling his daughter a fictional story, but the ending did not need to be "save the world" and hypatia basically just appearing and doing the Tell don't Show
Is really annoying
SAME!!
Like, the beginning of the movie?! Great, very much so, setting up Orion's fear of everything and that whole thing in a very effective way both sweet yet surprisingly somber, then we get Dark and the other entities who are all really fun and creative characters and the highlight of the movie, and the bonding between Orion and Dark is genuinely cute and wholesome... Then that's it! A really fun and creative buddy movie, right?! YES, if the whole movie was JUST about them, the entities and the whole you know, CONQUERING YOUR FEARS THING! I'd say we have another Dreamworks banger!
BUT THEN THE MOVIE KEEPS GOING!! As soon as the daughter thing came up not even in the middle of it, I was immediately thrown off! And then it kept going and going and the daughter is here now?! AND GRANDSON??!! I'm sorry! What happened to the cohesion? The fun buddy movie?! Now I'm officially out of it and I don't care about Orion or Dark anymore cause it seems like the movie just forgot about them, nothing makes sense anymore and things just happen, the whole Orion dissing Dark to the entities felt so off like, when did this happened?! They could've kept the whole "the movie is a story for his daughter" thing but until the very end! To ya know, show that he got over his fear or at least make it so we can tell that the story actually happened!! I hate that they kinda implied that it didn't!
MAN! I really wanted to like this movie and the worst part is... That I did! The beginning and everything with Dark, Orion and the entities was so great and everything I expected but I can't even enjoy it case it's only like a fraction of the whole thing and the things I didn't care for take the rest of the movie's runtime!
Me in the middle half: im actually enjoying the movie
Me after the middle half:.... MAN WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
I actually enjoyed this movie shockingly a lot! Yes it does get rather complex in the end and I definitely don’t plan on rewatching it in the future but I wouldn’t call it a huge disappointment despite its flaws because the themes are overall great and the world in this film is somewhat very pretty! But I do agree with all the points made in this video!
I liked the first half but then the argument before the climax thing, Orion and his daughter changing the story, Time Travel ruined it
I thought "what the hell is going on?!"
Sooo let's see Orion is a kid who's afraid of everything it's cliche but alright it works
a school bully he fears
Has a crush on a girl whom he hardly mentions again to Dark or the other entities
We see he has a daughter 40 mins in
He messes up the entities jobs and they get pissed and annoyed of him and Dark
But it quickly gets resolved and Orion starts helping them and they start warming up to him and the movie wasn't even nearly over yet
This movie man Idk what happened but it wasn't what I expected
I lost interest after the time travel plot
Dark hating on Light cause he makes people feel safe sounded like a good conflict
And when they mention he will disappear if Light shines over him I was intrigued
Then it happens and we cut to Orion and his daughter and when she asks what happened next and he replies "I don't know" wtf I thought it was gonna be a story where everything did happen and she asks "is that a true story?" Kind of thing
The other entities I didn't care about as I thought I would
The premise was interesting and the character designs was cool
Insomnia though looks like Zipper from Rescue Rangers and a Inside Out character
I think the idea was. Ok . The only problem I had with it. Was the terrible character designs they literally just put 6 shapes together and called it a day. And I think the ending was quite cringe with that time travelling boy.
I think the movie does a good job showing a kid who has anxiety, with Orion's constant obsession over worst-case scenarios and skipping out on fun activities due to his paranoia. Besides that, the movie is alright, and I don't think that their decently accurate representation of someone with anxiety doesn't save the film, I think it does well.
The first part was really good, but kinda fell off after it was revealed that it was a story
Although I really liked the part where quiet woke up Orion
I think it was a neat film for kids with high anxiety like Orion and his family to see that fear is normal.
This movie feels like if Rise of the Guardians forgot about Jack frost for 5 minutes and introduced a new OC in the finale to help him beat Pitch. Orion and the Dark is worse than Madagascar 3 and maybe even Trolls 1. Youre right this movie was a waste of time
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ANXIETY GAWH MAN, As someone who has it a bit, I'm not crying! ur CRYING!
I liked it up until the point it was revealed it was a story being told from a point in the future. I don’t know what it is about it, but it just seems fine it for me.
When I saw the ending, I was utterly confused. It seemed to me like the first half of the movie was alright, but the second half felt like it was written by gerbils with tiny typewriters.
this video is DEAD ON, like it really did want to love i thought it would best the movie i watched this year so far but at best its just mid , the beginning was great but the middle and end was god awful, also they said orion would be gone for 24 hours but in the film around 3 to 4 days fuckin passed!!!. they also mentioned how if the dark would die the big man upstairs would be upset, WHO THE FUCK IS THE BIG MAN UPSTAIRS. WHEN DARK DIED THE BIG MAN DOESNT EVEN FUCKIN APPEAR! the also imply that theres other day entities but ....WE NEVER SEE THEM.
i wish we were in a alternate time line where this movie was amazing but atlas we live in this time line TwT where the movie is just .....eh
6:53 same, i hate that it's just a story is not real, i feel like waste of time 😢😭
Maybe it’s because I had no expectations but I genuinely loved this film it was fun and seemed like you were watching what it’s like to play with a kid the story is always all over the place but you have so much fun playing along that’s what it felt like to me and I loved it
This movie makes no sense whatsoever. The feeling I get after this is that they started with a supernatural kid's story (which I was loving), weren't brave enough to go for it and made the "it was all imagination" move (what a terrible move, bcs everything built up until that point loses weight/meaning) and then just said "fuck it" and you know the ending.
Simplicity is key. That was a storytelling ship wreck to watch. Never get so lost in new and "intelectual" ideas that you lose your characters. Who is the protagonist? What's the message of the movie? None of these basic questions can be answered, cause they wanted it all and ended with a waste of time. So disappointed.
Well my daughter liked it enough to want to watch it more than once, sort of. I keep my opinions to myself in front of her, but the movie annoys tf out of me, and the plot makes very little sense. It just aimlessly ambles along, and the sense of it being made up as it goes (the intention) is all too real, and unfortunately has a very negative impact on the story . Even my daughter loses interest by the end of it. It just has the ability to lose any interest that may have existed at the outset. It reminds me of the movie ‘Luck’. Another aimless one, though ‘Luck’ is still better.
As for the characters.. The kid, his grown self, his parents, his daughter, all extremely, irritatingly, boringly, wholesome characters without any sense of humour or colour to their personalities. Just robotic examples of how good people are supposed to be apparently.. So dull.
I’m a good person, but people like that cause my eyes to glaze over. Such uninteresting, spineless personalities. But that’s what good people are I guess right? 🤢🤮
OPEN with the story being just a bedtime story. Have the opening narrated by the adult Orion, or maybe even the adult daughter. It's not the generation thing itself is bad; it's execution.
When the aliens rolled in I just stopped watching. 14 minutes away from the emd, and I just left it. The aliens just came out of nowhere! Also that scene with Sleep doing her job should be removed before any kid sees it 💀💀💀
Well, the unpopularity of your opinions is why I love them so much! Unlike others who blatantly steal from others' reviews, you form your own! But me personally? This movie was pretty good!
It really seems like this movie over-invested in the beginning plot. When it switched over to a bed-time story in a different time periods, i started to feel like it wasnt the same movie i thought it would be.
It had very good messages buuut the presentation could've been better if you wanted those messages to REALLY stick. Also PLEASE stop setting the new Dreamworks bar to The Last Wish. Its an amazing movie and one of those rare studio masterpieces. Its not a good image to set at the start of a criticism
I didn’t even finish it. It just got so slow and tengenty and boring. It didn’t even keep my daughter interested at all. It wasn’t even worth the 45 minutes I spent watching.
The reason people say it's good is because Orion and the dark helped us understand the connections with family and the importance of time if you dig deeper.
I only don’t like that the girl made her way into the story I just wish she wasn’t besides the point it was a good movie
GOD i swear they messed up so much when they casually spawned a random girl in the story
The idea was phenomenal, but the execution was terrible. Just very VERY bad pacing. A true disappointment, because the story was going all over the place.
As a person who has anxiety I loved the beginning but then it got really stupid in the end
Overcoming fears to Time Travelling is just really stupid in ny opinion.
i agree that having it all be a story being told to a kid was just awful. it's like they knew they couldn't make this into a sequel so they had to get rid of all the world building. and it's a shame too because i felt like if it were real, it would have helped a lot of fearful children with anxiety. here's a rewrite: orion meets dark, dark tells him to stop being a baby, he shows him the wonders of the night and how beautiful the world can be at night. orion meet insomnia and noise, at first he hates them, basically blaming them for making him so scared of everything, only for dark to point out that like him, they were just doing thier jobs. later on the film, orion accepts his flaws and tries to become braver, he helps insomnia because of his head has more anxious thoughts than anyone else, and he helps noise realizing it's fun to scare people. when the next morning arrives, he is more confident, even helping his crush with a fear she has. he grows up to become a horror comic artist. he tells this story to his daughter who doesn't believe him, dark arrives and asks if it's okay to meet his daughter, orion gives him a thumbs up and the movie ends with orion's daughter and dark going on a similar journey.
So Dreamworks missed the ball this time? Not a great start to the year. Hoping Disney's 2024 animated film blows us away after how disappointing "Wish" was.
Honestly, Dreamworks drops the ball plenty, so I wouldnt be surprised
Heres hoping KFP 4 isnt gonna be a forgettable movie
Here comes Moana 2! About to kick Megamind 2 and DreamWorks a$$ this year!
@@JeremyMasterson938 I can't wait to see how many flaky fans praise Disney when it comes out when they said the company was dying last year.
Was this plot AI generated? It was so messy
this movie felt like it was written by AI
The only part of the movie i enjoyed was when hypatia said “quiet is for people to be heard” or something like that during her poem. That, and a few funny scenes. Other than that, the movie was trying to say something, but literally said nothing. Does it want us to be walking alone at night?! It turns night and suddenly everyone stops fighting, making noise, and no traffic? That’s stupid
I feel like it was meant to cater more to the people with strong anxiety like Orion and his family. It's just a quiet film for anxious people.
@@ThePrincessCHi havent met anybody who has strong anxiety like me but this movie helped me to speak up more and be more confident with my skills and stuff
orion is just a comfort character to me
What are you talking about? I love this movie!
The first part of the movie was amazing but the second part was mishandled.
I agree, but I see his points to, the story feels very fever-dreamy and experimental those kinds of stories aren't for everyone
@@kaykay8855the ending was mishandled*
I feel like it was meant to cater more to the people with strong anxiety like Orion and his family, which is why it's much quieter than most other DreamWork films.
No waht are U talking about? This movie had so much going for it that its basically worse than other lesser Dreamworkd movies like Madagascar 1 & Trolls
Yeah, I agree, it’s literally TV-Y7 and it had swear words like “crap” & “hell” in it. Should’ve been TV-PG.
I feel like it was meant to cater more to the people with strong anxiety like Orion and his family, which is why it's much quieter than most other DreamWork films.
Nah, those words give more realistic dialog. No one uses "safe words" in every sentence, not even kids. And if you count crap and hell as swear words, you need to grow up.
I liked this movie imo
Aww i liked this movie 😭 It had some flaws, but i wouldnt call it awful.
I like the ending, bc it sounds like Hypatia and Orion just rambling on and adding other stuff to the story
It was good until hypatia story came through
i was literally like: "NOOOO!!! YOU'RE RUINING IT!!"
Why they need to introduce Time travel into this? Unnecessary 😂
The acting and visuals are cool. The writing? Good lord... I couldn't follow shit in the second act. Also there's way too much telling and not showing
I actually ended up falling asleep at some point while watching this.
Why does the "twist" with the fact that the story is fictional spoil the whole movie? I really don't understand what the problem is. Why do people want the film to be a banal story with the most banal metaphor for overcoming fear that I can think of? Without the fact that the whole story is just a bedtime story, the whole ent of this world just doesn't work. At the moment with time travel, I thought about it, but continued to look further. And the finale didn't disappoint me. It is very touching, and in a sense philosophical.
Personally, my rating is 7/10, but apparently people expect "Pixar" in the worst possible way:/
The movie was good from the start and middle, but shoving Hypatia into the story wasn’t a good idea and the ending really confused me.
But it is still a good movie compared to Kung fu Panda 4 and Megamind 2
I’m so done with this movie, if they really wanted to go on the bedtime story route, they should have made the scene where Hypatia is with older Orion in the very beginning of this movie ! Just like in Edward scissors hands ! And why not have a scene where Hypatia asks "but did this really happen to you dad ?" and then Orion says something like "idk what do you think ?" . This movie makes me just so… AHH CAN’T IT’S SO WASTED !!!! >:(
Your review is funny as hell. A film written by Charlie Kaufman who wrote Synecdoche, New York, Being John Malkovich, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and Adaptation, and you expected a light hearted fun little film. You really don’t look into the actual creative side of projects, just the company that brought it to you
I’m sorry what? Dreamworks isn’t gonna be animating anymore but instead outsourcing??? Wtf kind of logic is that????? This film was a budget title, straight to streaming, the modern equivalent of straight-to-DVD. OF COURSE they will continue to animate the bigger budget movies in-house because what else are they gonna do with that? They wouldn’t waste precious resources and talent with their in house animation department on something straight to streaming dude.