Thank you Kier! I've been wating for this is the video (and the subsequent update). The handling of the "scenes" is really a bit complicated and without such a detailed description I have my trouble with it, too. On the other hand, the "scenes" offer a wide variety of possibilities on the Montage M.
Hi Kier, first of all thanks for your tutorials. I would like to see a video tutorial on how to organize a complete drum set with intro fills and outro on all eight scenes. Thanks
Thanks! In terms of organising a percussion part with intro/outro etc., that's really more the domain of arranger keyboards than MONTAGE family synthesizers, but if you look in the arpeggio category browser, you'll often find arpeggios with multiple variations, some of which function a bit like intro/fill/outro.
So is there an easy shortcut to easily add drums / rhythm to an existing live set? And have the drums variations correspond to each scene? Ie verse chorus type of variations. Seems like it was way easier to do on my older Modx.
No features have been removed from MODX, so if you can describe your MODX workflow, I'll tell you how to do the same thing on MONTAGE M. To add percussion with a rhythm pattern to an existing performance on MONTAGE M, just hit SHIFT + SONG/PATTERN (RHYTHM PATTERN) and you'll access the same interface as you would get with the RHYTHM PATTERN button on MODX.
Is there a Hold button per part yet? I remember many of us asking for that on the Montage forum and Bad Mister (Yamaha’s long time expert) hand waved it away as no musician should need that or use a DAW (lol to hold a part). Bought a Nord Stage, all the parts have their own key hold. Works great. Not rocket science. Haven’t touched my Montage for a long time.
There isn’t, but it could theoretically be implemented by pressing HOLD and one of the PART buttons at the same time. I’ll suggest it over at IdeaScale
I wish key range was another independent parameter under Scenes so that you could disable the actual keyboard from playing additional notes when you want a sustained sound to continue holding underneath a new selected part, but without disconnecting the sustained notes from other controllers such as the expression pedal so you could continue to shape the sustained pad. It’s too bad you can’t route another part’s MIDI output to another part without having to loop out through MIDI. The internal MIDI routing is very limited on this keyboard..
The first part of what you want - sustaining just a selection of notes while not sustaining others keyed afterwards - can already be done by connecting a sustain pedal to one of the assignable foot controller ports and setting it to sostenuto mode. The second part (directing the expression pedal etc. to the previous performance) is not doable with Montage architecture as all control inputs are directed to the currently-active performance, and I can’t imagine that will ever change.
@@KierDarby , I share that doubt that the Montage OG or M internal MIDI architecture will ever change enough to do what I was describing above. For now, I use an external MIDI controller to send CC11 on the assigned MIDI channel of the part that I disconnect from Keyboard Control after I sustain the notes (great suggestion to use CC66, by the way!). I'm grateful that at least incoming MIDI is still recognized even when Keyboard Control is disabled for a part. I used to be able to accomplish non-stop expression control of sustained parts on my Motif ES using Master ZONE Mode with a MULTI patch (SONG/PATTERN), turning off internal/local control on the string part, assigning only NOTE control to one of the ZONES, and ONLY CC control to another ZONE, both set to the same MIDI channel. Because the Motif allowed internal MIDI routing I could select NOTE and CC data send independently, meaning that I could turn off the NOTE zone, but keep the CC zone active all the time. This allowed me to sustain and shape notes of a pad or strings, while continuing on to play a different layered sound on a different MIDI channel. I so appreciated when the Montage made turning on and off zones/parts so fluid without cutting off the sound by implementing Keyboard Control. But it would have been just that much better to still be able to choose to adjust any sustaining notes even after you've stopped adding notes to the group.
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All your videos should be the standard Yamaha instruction videos on the Yamaha website. You are amazing!!
You’re too kind :)
Great introduction
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Welcome!
Thank you Kier! I've been wating for this is the video (and the subsequent update).
The handling of the "scenes" is really a bit complicated and without such a detailed description I have my trouble with it, too.
On the other hand, the "scenes" offer a wide variety of possibilities on the Montage M.
Are you finding Scenes easier to work with now?
Yes! But it takes some time to fully understand the complexity of this feature.
Your explanations made it a lot easier for my.
Brilliant. Thanks for a great, well structured and logical tutorial. Again, well done.
Glad you liked it!
I must confess, I felt that this video was a little less well-structured than the others, but I’m happy to hear that you didn’t think so!
Hi Kier, first of all thanks for your tutorials.
I would like to see a video tutorial on how to organize a complete drum set with intro fills and outro on all eight scenes. Thanks
Thanks! In terms of organising a percussion part with intro/outro etc., that's really more the domain of arranger keyboards than MONTAGE family synthesizers, but if you look in the arpeggio category browser, you'll often find arpeggios with multiple variations, some of which function a bit like intro/fill/outro.
Thanks! Excellent series! I was a bit lost before happening on this series! Cheers!
Glad to help!
Thanks!
Thank you!
So is there an easy shortcut to easily add drums / rhythm to an existing live set? And have the drums variations correspond to each scene? Ie verse chorus type of variations. Seems like it was way easier to do on my older Modx.
No features have been removed from MODX, so if you can describe your MODX workflow, I'll tell you how to do the same thing on MONTAGE M.
To add percussion with a rhythm pattern to an existing performance on MONTAGE M, just hit SHIFT + SONG/PATTERN (RHYTHM PATTERN) and you'll access the same interface as you would get with the RHYTHM PATTERN button on MODX.
Is there a Hold button per part yet? I remember many of us asking for that on the Montage forum and Bad Mister (Yamaha’s long time expert) hand waved it away as no musician should need that or use a DAW (lol to hold a part). Bought a Nord Stage, all the parts have their own key hold. Works great. Not rocket science. Haven’t touched my Montage for a long time.
There isn’t, but it could theoretically be implemented by pressing HOLD and one of the PART buttons at the same time. I’ll suggest it over at IdeaScale
I wish key range was another independent parameter under Scenes so that you could disable the actual keyboard from playing additional notes when you want a sustained sound to continue holding underneath a new selected part, but without disconnecting the sustained notes from other controllers such as the expression pedal so you could continue to shape the sustained pad. It’s too bad you can’t route another part’s MIDI output to another part without having to loop out through MIDI. The internal MIDI routing is very limited on this keyboard..
The first part of what you want - sustaining just a selection of notes while not sustaining others keyed afterwards - can already be done by connecting a sustain pedal to one of the assignable foot controller ports and setting it to sostenuto mode.
The second part (directing the expression pedal etc. to the previous performance) is not doable with Montage architecture as all control inputs are directed to the currently-active performance, and I can’t imagine that will ever change.
@@KierDarby , I share that doubt that the Montage OG or M internal MIDI architecture will ever change enough to do what I was describing above.
For now, I use an external MIDI controller to send CC11 on the assigned MIDI channel of the part that I disconnect from Keyboard Control after I sustain the notes (great suggestion to use CC66, by the way!). I'm grateful that at least incoming MIDI is still recognized even when Keyboard Control is disabled for a part.
I used to be able to accomplish non-stop expression control of sustained parts on my Motif ES using Master ZONE Mode with a MULTI patch (SONG/PATTERN), turning off internal/local control on the string part, assigning only NOTE control to one of the ZONES, and ONLY CC control to another ZONE, both set to the same MIDI channel. Because the Motif allowed internal MIDI routing I could select NOTE and CC data send independently, meaning that I could turn off the NOTE zone, but keep the CC zone active all the time. This allowed me to sustain and shape notes of a pad or strings, while continuing on to play a different layered sound on a different MIDI channel.
I so appreciated when the Montage made turning on and off zones/parts so fluid without cutting off the sound by implementing Keyboard Control. But it would have been just that much better to still be able to choose to adjust any sustaining notes even after you've stopped adding notes to the group.