MASTER OF WINE Tries white VIVINO AWARD Winners for Under $30
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As usual - this video is not sponsored by Vivino, and I will review these wines completely independently. A lot of you guys use the app, so it is a great way to help you separate the good from the bad wines. Vivino started the Wine Styles Awards a few years ago as the only industry awards which are determined solely by wine drinkers, not critics or wine experts. For the 6th edition, Vivino went through the ratings from millions of users and select the best reds, whites, and sparkling wines as well as the best Values. To qualify, wines must have received a minimum of 50 ratings from Vivino users. I looked at the best value wines that cost less than 30 Euro, received great ratings and I have selected wines that are fairly widely available so if you want to taste along you should be able to get them in your market. I want to find out how useful these scores are and will rate the wines myself according to the 100 point scale. I am going to taste the wines the same way a Vivino user would taste them - not blind. But now: Let's get into the wines.
Would love a video explaining what determines a wine’s drinking window. What factors in reds and whites make them short or long lived, why higher quality wines age better, what’s the difference for example between a cru bourgeois and a first growth Bdx that makes one last decades longer than the other? How does the vintage change ageability? It’s fascinating to me.
Seconded!
Yes!
Yes !
Basically speaking, high alcohol, acidity and tannins are needed, so are intensity and body. In sweet wines, sugar, acidity and alcohol hold up ageability. But then there are other factors like the intended style for the wine, winemaking practices eg stricter selection of grapes, extended skin contact, the use of oak, etc. Some wines are meant for early drinking eg Dolcetto, so you shouldn’t age it anyway. Other than that, qualification systems like the ones you mention could also be useful indicators about their age-ability. Would love to see the approach on this topic by a master of wine though.
Would love to see a video on unknown champagne chateaus at a mid-level price range.
Any decent sparkling wine from CA = a mid-level Champagne. IMHO. (Stay away from fruity ones... that's not Champagne.)
Another amazing video!! Funny enough I tasted the El Enemigo 2018 Chardonnay 3 days ago and I was taken off guard by how much I enjoyed it. Definitely a good value. Glad to know you did as well!
Looking forward to more of your awesome content. Cheers from 🇨🇦!
Topics to discuss? I really like the micro series within the youtuber’s channel. A 5 part series on this region. And then a 7 part series on the next region. Etc. There’s so much to cover in the world of wine. For me, your appeal is your toned down nature while you deliver tons of knowledge.
Another fascinating video - well done! I do not recall seeing any of these wines in the government-run wine stores here in Canada where I live, but I will watch for the really good ones. As for future videos, I would enjoy seeing one about your day job, whatever it is. Obviously it must be in the wine industry - I doubt that anyone has ever become a Master of Wine as a hobby - but I think knowing a bit more about your story would be very interesting.
Konstantin, I must say that your channel is truly magnificent! The combination of your knowledge, presentation and production quality of these videos will ensure that you will be to 100,000 subscribers in no time! Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Recht hat er 😁
This comment aged well, he's at 90,000 hahaha :)
Good stuff! Personally I really enjoy these "good value" suggestions, it's right in my wheelhouse.
I would love to see a series of great value recommendations of fairly accessible wines that are "typical" or a good example of their genre, be it a type of grape, a style or a region. If that's at all possible.
Some blind tastings in cooperation with other knowledgeable friends of yours would be fun too. Something like what wineking does :)
great review! ideas for future videos - region and vintage : taking 4-5 wines/varietal from the same region and vintage and analyzing the region and vintage through this experience. it can be a series of many videos and can continue over time.
Love these videos !! Keep up the great content 😄
Thank you for the thoughtful reviews
Great video man! Keep them coming.
I would like to see more vídeos about south american wines! In the same time, I have to say that I like this”Vivino’s analyses ‘. It’s very interisting and close to the reality of the regular consumers. Thank you Konstantine.
Love the videos. But would be nice if you listed the wines in the description as well :-)
Keep up the good work.
Thank you for doing a white wine tasting and under $30...You listened and I am very impressed...Thank you for your talent and knowledge in sharing!! KUDOS!!
Keep up the great work! I would like to see a tasting video in which wines from hobby winemakers compete against wines from commercial wineries.
Great to hear your views on wine from various countries. Australia has one wine style in particular that is unmatched anywhere else in the world . It is Aged Hunter Valley Semillon. You should try it
Thank you for another excellent video, Konstantin!
Here in Malaysia it is somewhat tricky, especially in the value category. I do use Vivino as a guide along with Wine-searcher and Cellertracker. Recently had a Hugel Classic Gewurtztraminer which was good - a hint of bitterness in the finish.
Maybe some essential reading for those interested in learning more about winemaking and what sets good winemakers apart from the rest.
Great idea!
Hey Konstantin, please go on with posting these videos. I love it.
Thank you for the info, I always have hard time picking up good whites, this is going to help.
El Enemigo is great value!
You mentioned Tokaj… would love to watch a video dedicated to it.
This is the price range I drink in most commonly, thanks.
It would be cool to see a few of the grapes or blends you consider to be under appreciated for their value. Touriga nacional and carmenere might make the list for me.
Had both El Enemigo and Trimbach (maybe even the whole line of theirs) and enjoyed them. As your subscriber, I'd love to watch videos about some not-so-mainstreamed wines. For instance, I have tried Escalada do Sil by Alberto Orte and was pleasantly surprised by the complexity of this wine. I'm sure I'd never buy this wine randomly but the sommelier in our restaurant opened a bottle to taste. If you have a chance to cover some not-so-popular grape varietals it would be amazing
Great video. It has given me ideas to buy three wines I have never tried. This is exactly the kind of video that offers your viewers great value.
A suggestion for a video. It might be nice to do a taste comparison between some mid-priced right bank and left bank Bordeauxs. Another wine channel recently sang the praises of a right bank Bordeaux I have never heard of, Chateau Monbousquet, a Merlot/Cabernet Franc blend. I like a left bank Bordeaux, Chateau Talbot, a Cabernet Sauvignon/Merlot blend. They cost about the same ($70 to $80), which is expensive, but affordable by the standards of classified Bordeaux.
I really enjoy the wine in 10 videos so more of those would be interesting! And the one about minerality was very interesting as well, if you have other insights like that or maybe something about how to build up your own vocabulary of descriptors.
Thanks for the great video! I happened to taste the same Pinot Gris Reserve from Trimbach and found it unbalanced with noticeable alcohol on the palate...
About Adrianna Catena who colaborate with Ale Vigil, she is the daughter of Nicolas Catena, the owner of Catena Zapata and grandson of the founder Nicola Catena, and also Andrianna is the sister of Laura Catena (owner of Luca Wines and other proyects)
I am really enjoying your videos, Kostantin. I would like a feature on Rioja. I am a big fan of the wines around Haro, and would like your thoughts on the region and how the Tempranillo based wines are distinguished from other varieties.
Your videos are truly awesome, thank you! Have you ever tried good Brazilian wines? Sparkling maybe? Could you consider doing a video on them?
Congratulations about your easy but detailed explanations. Very nice videos. What about garnacha (grenache) wines? World differences, flavours to look at, best value areas. Thanks
Sounds like I have to try that El Enemico, too. Liked all of your videos by know but as said in my last comment I would like to have some more videos about grape varieties and wine regions. Thank you.
I've been waiting a long time for a white wine tasting video.
Hi Konstantin! I love your videos. Would you mind making a video about books and/or magazines you would suggest to be always updated about the world of wine? I'm about to begin to study for the WSET Diploma and I'd like to have suggestions on what to read from you. Thanks, stay thirsty!
Thank you for these videos! Blind tastings are very interesting. Was excited about this video, as I just bought the El enemigo - and I hated it! Thought the oak was completely overpowering. Looked forward to you trash the wine, but maybe I am the one at fault :)
As a beer enthusiast I found these videos very interesting to watch. Maybe someday I will know something also from the world of Wines. MFG aus Finnland.
I'd really love to hear more about macerated wines which are not like orange-wine styles. more precisely made, puristic but with the maceration enhancing the flavours. would love to learn more about it, also have some wines as examples.
Also interesting could be more about fungal-resistent grape varietys.
These tasting videos are interesting, but I prefer when you talk about a certain topic and teach us on it. I would like to see more "educational" videos in the future, maybe separated by a tasting every now and then.
Also, you could start one or more mini-series of videos linked by a theme. An example would be "Intro to France", where the first video is an introduction to the region and following videos talk about different wines and regions of the country. You could also do the same to analyse in more depth some topics like "The most famous white wine varietals" or something else.
Nice video as always, keep up the good work!
I like the “so you think you know wine” format a lot. Invite some colleagues and make some sort of a blind tasting competition?
YES!🙌
Most enjoyable video. it would be useful to have a list of the wines tasted in your comments. Cheers
Lovely cellar! I have enjoyed the Trimbach. Good video, entertaining, relaxing 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
You asked for suggestions of wines to review and I would like to see you review Canadian wines from the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia
Konstantin! I would love to see a video trying some good brazilian wines!
Hola Konstantin, thanks for your knowledgeable but still down to earth way of explaining the wines, it’s very refreshing! If you happen to be near Catalonia on the 4th and 5th of June I would be very happy to meet you, and to show you around a small wine fair I organise, Arrels del Vi, with twenty-something vineyards from the DO Empordà. Let me know if you’re interested. Salut!
Cool! I bought el Enemigo Chard last week, but haven’t opened. At the risk of opening myself up to laughs from elitists, my standard for comparison is Kendall Jackson Chardonnay which I can buy for about $12 a bottle. I often spend up to $30 or so on whites and at least half the time I’m disappointed because they are not as pleasing as the KJ. Most of my stash is red, but some meals and summer in Florida scream for white.
I occasionally watch others, but you have become my favorite wine channel.
Let me know whether you like it. It is better than KJ in my opinion
Italian white wine. They have so many different and local grapes, which is sadly often overlooked
YES!🙌
I am currently enjoying a glass of Venus from Venus La Universal - baby of Sara Perez and Rene Barbier Jr. In Montsant. Cheers!
When it comes to the videos you make I really enjoy the learning part. Even though it is just tasting the insights about the region, methods used etc. Are very valuable. I loved the video about heat/cold and it's impact on wine - an eye opener!!
In this video I am surprised with Albarino from Rias Baixas being top of the top value wines knowing that for this price you can get some truly amazing bottles like 69 arrobas or Ferrero Cepas Viejas.
Keep doing what you do - you are great at it! Maybe it is a time to do a live? 2h with wines and live QnA? That is what I would like to see!!!
Live sounds good!
Excellent video, well done!
Looking forward to the red wine version!!!
Now you have to taste "El Enemigo" Malbec! Amazing wine
Would be nice to have a video where you show the best wines from Baden, of course on your opinion.
Great albariño Envidia Cochina,agree with you in my opinion 92-93 points!and totally amazing pairing it with seafood dishes from Galicia!cheers🥂
What is the name of the glass youre using?
Great videos btw❤️
I'd love a in-depth German riesling video--talking about how the grape plays out in the different regions or doing a vertical of a producer. After all it's your "terroir" why not use it?
Or some of the funky regional wine making laws, like CdP's rule about "organic" labeling requiring your neighbors also to be organic.
El Enemigo Chardonnay is a bomb!!! Amazing wine!
A colleague introduced me to the Enemigo Chardonnay, and I was blown away by the value for money. I knew Cantena mostly for excellent reds - a BIB restaurant in Copenhagen printed all their menu’s with an error in the price of one of the Cantena top wines and decided not to reprint the menu’s a sell the wine at a loss. Great idea! What is your reservation concerning the ratings of Suckling?
Can you show us your knowledge on how the wine develop with a “cellar” ageing,
Same wine but like 10-15 year of difference in vintage explaining with you palate how to taste older vintage compare to the young fresh ones and why sometime is better to wait rather than open bottles that could definitely improve with age.
Again, you rated El Enemino 2 points lower than other critics. I will ask again to see a wine that hit 100 points from you. (I Still want to buy this wine). Great content!
My professor in viticulture always said that if the soil is so extreme that phylloxera cannot live there then the soil will have much more impact on the vine than the fact that it has its own roots. Sounds logical to me. Cheers!:)
I share your sentiment about Argentinian Chardonnay, although there are several good ones. I haven't tasted that one yet.
Great video!
Awesome video.
"Yep, that's how that master does it". Classic.
Would like a episode on
Washington and Oregon wines
Great vid again! Create a small wine list for a fictitious restaurant; Bistro Baum..?
I’d love to you try and review D.V. Catena Malbec 2019! It has a 4.4 on vivino and is really affordable!
My partner is a caviste in Paris and has to deal with customers consulting Vivino after he's given them a thorough explanation of what they could purchase... In any case, I'm curious to try at least a couple of these!
I'm very interested in a video about your 5 favorite white and/or red wines under 50€. 😃
great show. i love white wines and some good ones there.
mjr
tokyo
Vinoble in Jerez is coming soon at the end of May.Are you coming?
can we get a video about some lesser known white varieties? thinking here about Sicilian varieties like carricante, catarratto or juhfark from Hungary, etc.
very well done
Do you know if Vivino ratings are different in the US versus Europe? Their US website refers to 10.3 million US members and leads me to believe that some of the information may be geofenced, for instance, mine page show favorite wines in Florida. I thoroughly enjoyed this presentation and the format. As for future topics, I am interested in learning about second labels that you would recommend.
Thanks for the info!
Hi there, Ossian has been a household favorite here for quite some years. However, there has been significant vintage differences. To me, the 2018 was also a disappointment. Try some of the older once - I remember the 2013 the best of those I have tasted. Regards from Oslo
Really great wine channel - almost as good as 2 Guys 2 Flutes
For the next video, please do a wine tasting of Screaming Eagle
Saving the Screaming Eagle for my 1000th Episode
Adrianna Catena has also made the very expensive White Bones and White Stones chardonnay. Can you test/taste them ?
4:01 you can have a proper Alvarinho from the Monção and Melgaço Sub-region for 15 euros, something like Muros de Melgaço from famed oenologist Anselmo Mendes.
Anselmo Mendes is really good ;)
Can you blind taste sparkling wines from different countries? Would be interesting to compare french, english and german bubbles :)
Konstantin, that was a great breakdown on those wines. You nailed it on the El Enimigo. Sucklings score is over the top but yours is not. This may be the best buy in top notch Chardonnay available. I scored it 91+ thinking it needed 2-4 years to evolve. Another Argentine Chardonnay producer you might enjoy is Pulenta, where Paul Hobbs consults.
30 euros seems to be a common used threshold in tastings. Not sure why? I usually find myself in the 12 to 18€ range. What I'm interested in is is it really worth spending those 10€? What's the main difference between wines at different price points, within a certain region?
If you tried Quite a few wines, 10€ can make huge differences to a Trained Tounge, But can also be just a wine which wants high profits
The producer, the maintenance of the vineyard, the vineyard-locations/soiltypes and the winemaking process make the difference within the region. I am with you on the threshold of 30 euro. In fact that is already expensive for one bottle. Should be a very good wine. I usually shop between 10 - 25 euro, with a exception for portwines. Some great German dry entry Rieslings cost 10-14 euro. Or another example: Ca' Rugate Soave Saint Michèle can be purchased under 12 euro. I would take that lovely wine over any Gavi de Gavi. For great affordable and interesting reds, look at the Alentejo in Portugal.
the last one sounds like a saison from hill farmstead.. =)
Please do something similar to this but for reds!
Can you do a similar video but with red wines under 30 euros from vivino?
I would love to get a tour in your winecellar
One thing I wonder is: how do your skills are noticble in other things? Can you tell different spices in meals or what about spirits do you also can all the nuances of whiskey or gin?
Yes, I am a terrible guest at a dinner party...
Another great video, Konstantin. Thanks! I’d like to see a review on wines that have ABV of 12.5 to 13%. Wines these days are made with very high alcohol content and in my opinion create very poor Flickr profiles. It is getting very hard to find wine that is less than 14 ABV. Please help!
“Flavor profiles”
You should look out for dry German Riesling they mostly are 12.5 to 13%, some dry from Mosel even just 12%
@@LiveLifeLasting actually I’m referring to reds (old school) but thank you for the info.
I don't do much shopping off of Vivino. However, I DO use the app to save the wines I've had with the photo of the labels. Would you be able to review wines from the grocery retailer Aldi? but that might just be silly and a waste of your time. I can't always get to my local wine store to grab these wines you recommend.
well said
I am getting that Chardonnay.
About formats I like: I find it cooler when the wines are blind tasted. This video, for example, could be a blind tasting :D
I love your comment "97 points by James Suckling makes my suspicious" or something like that. I often feel the same way when I see super high scores from popular critics/wine media. I think some just chronically overscore. Not you of course!
On Vivino, virtually every wine I own or research has a preponderance (about 75-80%) of four-star ratings with about 20% in 3-star and 5-star ratings, with those skewed toward 3 or 5 usually correlated to price. Higher price usually more 5 than 3, lower price usually more 3 than 5. There’s usually a smattering - maybe 1%-of 2-star or 1-star. But still, nearly every wine is predominately 4-star with that predictable distribution around 4-star. What does this say about the wines, the rating system, and/or the people rating the wines?
Where dose the best wine come from what Region?
I just bought a bottle of El Enemico Chardonnay 2018 at Mövenpick for SFr. 26.-- and wonder if it can beat my Black Stallion Chardonnay 2018 from Napa Valley at Coop for SFr. 23.50.
Let me know. I think the Enemigo is a bit better
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine El Enemico has a very light colour as compared to Black Stallion. In the nose, there is more fruit (citrus) in the Black Stallion, but El Enemico is kind of brighter, meaning that it stimulates more parts of my nose. On the palate, both wines are intense and a pleasure to hold in your mouth. After a few seconds, however, the Black Stallion, although being a little bit more intense, gets a bit agressive (acidity) whereas El Enemico remains beautifully balanced and there is no urge to swallow. All in all, I would agree with you.
Special button, partially buttened :)
Shame you weren’t a big fan of Ossian. It’s one of our most popular top whites. But I doAgree; it doesn’t SCREAM Spain, though the alcohol let’s you know. I think a lot of winemakers here are trying to almost mimic French styles sometimes. And I don’t know if that’s necessarily a good thing. I’m sure you have tried it, but Belondrade y Lurton make a lovely Verdejo too.
how about Mexican wines, or new world bubbly?
Would be great if you make a video with wine recommendations up to € 15. Simply 2-3 white, 2-3 red and 2-3 rosé. 🙏
PS: I would also really appreciate if you would list all wines of your tasting in the description. Makes it much easier to search for it.
good show, bro
i've just subscribed
mjr
tokyo
Hallo Herr Baum, probieren Sie Franco M. Martinetti 'Minaia' Gavi (nicht Nicola Bergaglio 'Minaia' Gavi di Gavi). 'La Scolca' is für MÖCHTE GERNE weinkenner. Es könnte sein, dass niemand verkauf der Wein in Deutschland. Sie nehmen dieses 'vivino' ding (was Die da alles schreiben) nicht seriös...., oder?
James Suckling has very weird scoring standard because he is driven by the money behind so basically I never use his score as a reference, I don't want be rude but these American wine critics has weird Coca-Cola and Starbucks palate should never let them manipulate customer's choice, After all love ur knowledge and very impressive showcase.
Envidia cochina means Dirty Envy in spanish, and talking about spanish, does mexican Wine is not avaible in your country? Since i see many argentinan wines i wonder if you can taste the Mexican Wines.
Would love to taste some