And the funny thing is, most of the times the violence and aggression comes from drunk people, not those with genuine mental healh issues. All of my coworkers and I dread friday and saturday evenings for a reason.
@SensationalBanana thank you for your service and saving lives. You shouldn't have to deal with drunk people like that, but you have to admit that the mental health system, at least in the uk, is it almost non existent because there is literally no funding for the nhs or people who mental health issues
@@racheldemain1940 na, this doesn't happen. They don't care. Ive been delirious and psychotic due go medication the hospital should never have given me, and was absolutely terrified for my life. I thought people were trying to harm me. The nurses said they were concerned by a change in presentation, as i was not this unwell beforehand and wasnt making any sense now, was seeing this, fully believed things that werent true. They asked the mental health team to see me again, who decided I just wanted attention. Turns out i had neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which is life threatening. They kicked me out using security while i was in this state. They put my life in danger. And this happens every single day. I fully believed i was being kidnapped by these security guards and absolutely could not get into a taxi home, believing i would not actually be taken home. I was so so scared. The most scared ive ever been. If you are seen as a 'nuisance' to them, they don't care, even if its due to a serious medical condition. They would rather you die. Thats how bad things are....
I can fully attest to the accuracy this episode exposes. I worked 20 years in a neuropsych hospital in Texas, and aggressive, combative patients were a daily thing. Myself, the worst I got was a disslocated jaw and 4 dead teeth from a man who had put 4 big men in the emergency room the within the month prior to clocking me. The medical profession demands that you be physically fit enough to hold your own in the unexpected whilst practicing your " first, do no harm".
That’s insane. You’re a nurse and a security woman and a police officer. It’s unacceptable to be responsible for all of this. Does your employer pay for all medical fees? A nurse was hidden behind a cloth cubical. The bottom 1-2 ft was not covered. She was being choked and he’d held her above the cloth. It was lucky someone spotted her. 19:06
@@bobosdoyle1355 What a dumb thing to call someone dumb for attempting to assure people of the accuracy of a video, mate. It's like you believe all videos are always 100% accurate and never cut out vital scenes or information that may have caused one to assess what they saw and heard very differently. News flash for you: There is a bunch of good reasons why video "proof" is not considered proof in a court case and the one I just mentioned is only one of them. Add to that all those scammers using AI these days to generate pictures and videos you'd better stop believing everything you see in the internet because a few years ahead AI WILL be able to completely make up super realistic videos about whatever the prompt tells them to. Even now there is so much tailored and streamlined video out here that you should be careful what you take for real and what not. Always retain some doubt unless you regularily experience these things yourself.
I’m a recently retired flight nurse. I’ve seen and dealt with it all. You can imagine the danger a mentally ill person could possibly cause in a helicopter. We had to be so very careful.
I’m so so sorry that you all who work in a&e have to go through this. No matter how poorly i i was (and I’ve been poorly, mentally and physically and emotionally while in a&e) i wouldn’t dream of treating staff like this. All they’re trying to do is help us. I’ve only got praise for the NHS workers. They are a wonderful bunch. Let’s treat them right.
Most Doctors can tell if a patient is being combative due to a brain trauma rather than being rude. I had to go to A&E last October and was a bit stressed ( with myself) but I wouldn't attack anyone who is there to care for me. They were lovely and got me patched up .
Um.... You realise that if the behaviour is due to psychosis, or a brain injury, or dementia or delirium (common in hospitals), they can't just choose not to behave like that. Not how it works. I was nearly killed by a&e staff who missed neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which had caused me to suddenly develop psychosis/delirium while in hospital. Instead of treating the medical condition, i was forcibly removed and my life put at serious risk. Maybe be sorry to those who are killed daily by ignorance instead of legitimate medical care they need. Its thinking like this that allows them to get away with this level of abuse towards patients...
Bless Scott, he seems like a really nice lad I can only imagine how embarrassed and guilty he felt when they told him what had happened when he fully came round!
My daughter is mentally I'll & wow!!! At times I had to be around & just pray for the ambulance come & get her. But after being sectioned three times, i have, thank God, decided i will try on my own, but with the Mental health team's advice, to never again take her to the hospital but to monitor her myself & see if i can do something to address the suffering of people who are mentally sick. I will hold my daughter hands & support her until my last breath on this earth. It's a very difficult task, but i am determined to help her to live a sane life as much as she can. Mental illness is the worst illness on planet earth.
As someone who has been admitted to the psychiatric hospital five separate times, I can say that this behavior from certain patients can be quite unsettling to witness in real life. I once saw a fellow patient throw a chair at a nurse.
Aside from using tranquilliser drugs, it’s clear that care in the community is not working in dealing with mental health issues and I suspect that illegal drugs are fuelling these rises in violent mental health episodes long term
@@michaeljohndennis2231 Care in the Community does work once your "on the books" of an MH team. Me personally was flaming crazy for 9 months before i finally got assessed for schizophrenia, the waiting lists are horrendous. Its almost like they totally left me to lose the plot - before i was taken seriously, to prove that i was that ill.
I have worked in ICU and ER for the last 25 years as an RN in the USA. I have both my biceps reattached by surgical means and a CHI thanks to a kick to the temple. Psych patients and ETOH patients are truly a danger to the healthcare team. And PTSD is a real thing for nurses who have been injured like I have others should be believed and treated with more empathy and respect than I got from the hospitals I worked in. To those RN’s and staff that have been injured get help and stay strong you are going to be ok.♥️💚
Sorry you went through all this. 😢 Nurses are highly underrated. A nurse friend says you can run a hospital without doctors but not without nurses. I would add that security are also essential. I guess it a team approach. Thanks for your service.
My father was a Dr/surgeon who was murderer whilst at work in the accident & emergency department. He was getting into hs car to actually pick me up from school, I was 9 at the time. There was no security at the time of his murder😢 These security should be in EVERY hostpital. Please, government
I'm so sorry.. I've lost my dad very young too - I cannot imagine how much it must have hurt to loose him in that manner. I hope that there at least was justice served and your family found peace and semblance of healing despite that devastating loss. There absolutely should be security around hospitals - I've heard horrendous stories from nurses and one female doctor about being followed to their cars or onto buses. It was cheaper to let staff park ...a few meters further, beyond a car gate...but with no fence or any other barrier for human entry - as if that'd stop an assailant. They just don't care.
I was assaulted by a schizophrenic/dementia patient. She snapped my neck and I had two surgeries,a year apart and never recovered. 65% permanently disabled. On the OTHER hand, after hip surgery I had a med reaction, pain meds and Zoloft. I had Serotonin toxicity, lost MY mind, kicked a nurse in the head and had to be tied to the bed! I thank God that I don't remember those three days!
You will probably know that people don't know what is happening when recovering from a General. All you know is what you have been told. But I remember a double ended knitting needle being drawn up through a black square on a chessboard. In the dentist's.
@20chocsaday all I'm saying is don't believe everything u see online. A lot of these people and news channels exaggerate things, and a lot of people online will make things up to get attention and try to appear sympathetic.
I’m a recently retired flight nurse in the USA. I’ve seen and dealt with it all. You can’t even imagine how dangerous a patient like this can be in a helicopter. We had to be so careful and act as best we could to prevent anyone from getting hurt. My heart breaks for truly ill patients who honestly have no control. On the other hand, there are some people who are better dealt with by police and or other agencies. It’s a delicate balance trying to help those who are truly ill and those who just want attention.
Being aggressive when coming round from surgery is quite common. I was told I was ratty and crappy coming round from spine surgery. The nurses apparently wouldn't put up with my crap and upped whatever it was that kept me quiet and asleep. I was mortified when they told me but they laughed saying it wasn't uncommon with perfectly nice people after a heavy op with lots of anaesthesia.
Sometimes it can be a bit genetic. My grandpa and aunt freak out when coming around, ripping tubes out, kicking out etc. My grandpa has passed but my aunt pre warns them whenevers shes been in since. My dad isnt affected so I hope Ive missed out on those genes.
It's not uncommon but it's also not ok. You need to get a very, very good workup. Psych and medical. There's something wrong. It's not a fault thing but it is a canary in the coal mine thing. Figure out what it is so you can fix it. The drugs don't make you do anything. They can completely erase inhibition and anger is a defense mechanism. Trauma isn't always something we are consciously aware of and genetic differences can alter the way you react to different meds. My son is a red head and it takes so much to numb him, they literally gave to use the absolute max for his weight and they have to be fast because he metabolizes it like air. Look really close at your childhood. Anything that could have made you feel unsafe, were your parents scary, was there a bullying incident at school that made you feel helpless and afraid? It could even be something as simply as being restrained as an infant for shots or circumcision. They didn't routinely even try to numb boys before the 80s I think and the effect it has on the infant brain looks just like soldiers traumatized by war. Get yourself looked at because it's not gone, whatever it is, it's still there. Edited to add: I just checked and it was 1978. That was when they adopted trying to numb the penis. What parents are not told is, it often doesn't work for one reason or another and the numbing itself is extremely painful and terrifying for a freshly born baby.
Been to hospital twice this last month to a&e with my husband, as he needs surgery. It’s full of drunks, mental health patients and like a druggie drop in. We heard doctors telling some patients who literally go there for not much, this is accident and emergency. You need to be seeing your GP- don’t get me wrong, I know it’s almost impossible to get doc appointments, but it really adds to wait times for people who really do have a life threatening problem. 10 hours we waited each time we had to go in. My husband was in agony. He had a massive gal bladder infection, and also diabetic. And literally some butter walking around in a dressing gown, on drugs and alcohol annoying everyone. Swearing…. We need to sort this out.
If you haven't had n accident, and it's not a medical emergency, there should be a £50 charge. Too many use A&E instead of getting an appointment with their GP.
Not all mentally ill are 8:20 drinking alchoalir drugs I don't I'm sorry your husband was wAiting a long while but I can assure you if mentally ill patients are triaged as green I've been waiting 16 hours before ivesaidbim leaving one occasion it was Onam I was told it could be six am before we're seen nodiubtyou husband was taken to resusbor bed vays that away from us on rock iron chairs were ones in danger from drunks druggies people who get talking to you and unnerve you kids have a separate wzit area if us mentally ill or learing difficulties had one either magazines friends either them
@@bunglejoy3645had to wait cpl of weeks for a dr appointment, they are available, but many want an appointment immediately. Also, many ask for 'their' doctor, just see anyone ffs. You call in at a certain time and can get a quicker appointment.
Worked in secure hospitals in uk and Australia, it’s an everyday occurrence for violence on hospital staff, skills are very quickly developed to deal with these on a verbal and physical level
I hear stories from my young bro who is a full time security at a hospital and his wife also worked at the same hospital before becoming a stay at home mom. It's wild
Some months ago I was in hospital, I also was aware my mental health was bad and the A&E doctors requested the mental health team come. They refused. I was in hospital for almost a week and in the middle of the night I had one very rare mental health crisis. Still the mental health team refused to come. Apparently they will not see someone with a mental health crisis/difficulty whilst they are being treated for a physical illness. At the end of my stay I was sent home, that was March, to this day I’ve still not had contact with the mental health team. I recognise all this is not good for NHS staff, but we also need to realise that for many, the mental health services in the UK are virtually nonexistent.
and when you finally get to the top of the waiting list the mental health team and services are rude arrogant and lazy they lie through their backteeth no wonder their is a crisis of mental health in the UK
I have Mental Health issues but I wouldn't DREAM of attaching or verbally abuse Hospotal staff. I didn't even WANT to have to go to A&E knowing others need it more than me!! It was only because I couldn't get a GP appointment. I was agitated but that was nerves. I treated the team with respect and gratitude for their help.
I've been suffering with extreme serious physical and mental health issues for 9months and I've turned up to A&E a dozen times trying to tell them there's something physical causing it all. One time I got quite aggressive because they were telling me it's all in my head while I'm crying in physical pain.
I hope the gentleman Scott who had brain surgery is doing well, I can totally understand that happening especially dealing with the brain. I started to have seizures a year or so ago at 34 years old. I’d never had them before, my husband said he woke up in the middle of the night to it happening. When I came out of the first one he said I tried to sit up and immediately went back into another one so he had to call 911. The last thing I remember is falling asleep the night before, I woke up in the hospital so confused. I didn’t know where I was or what was happening, it’s scary to see yourself hooked up to a million things and you don’t remember how you got there. It took me hours to have a clear mind, my brain hurt for like a week. I had another one shortly after, that one was so bad I bit through my tongue and cracked a tooth. My teeth must’ve been clenched so hard with my tongue stuck in between. My husband said he was scared to death, when he turned me on my side blood came out of my mouth. I’m on medication now to control them, I still don’t have a direct answer as to why they started happening.
This reminds me of my recent experience at hospital. A couple of months ago I had to keep going back into hospital each day for 4 days, each time i was told to go to A&E, each time they discharged me for a "Urine infection". It turns out I had appendicitis, the doctors didn't believe me, my family didnt, my friends didnt. I was just lucky that ONE doctor finally took the time to do a scan for me and after the scan it took the doctors noticing i was eating in a waiting room 3 hours after the scan for them to finally tell me i needed emergency surgery as it was about to burst... they will of thought i was a nuisance patient... £50 down on taxis because i physically couldnt make it to the bus stop 100 metres away and no sick pay for 2 weeks after surgery :D about to be a "nuisance patient" again as they found a cyst on my ovary at the same time that they said theyd remove in surgery but didnt and it's still causing me issues and pain to this day :)
Me too.... I was forcibly removed from the hospital for what turned out to be something life threatening that was causing ms to suddenly become extremely psychotic and delirious. This video never once really touches on how many people have NO CONTROL ocer this behaviour or it beinf the reault of seirous medical conditions they cant help. People frequently die of sepsis due to this mentality. Its truly evil. They want everyone to believe this is choice when for most people here it probably is not
@@codybrown1211Psychosis from medical condition can be easily distinguished by any semi-competent member of staff. Hell, probably even experienced housekeeping staff can tell from just the difference in behaviour.
10:10 im sorry but the british accent makes this moment seem like something from a Monthy Python movie, especielly because he immediately denies making the threat😂😂😂
In a factory one day a man stopped being very exacting in his work suddenly because an elephant bull in strength. But then was able to sit beside a female nurse on the way to hospital. The factory lost a good man and some production. I don't know where he is now but I hope he is happy.
@@bunglejoy3645 Well I have a schizoaffective type disorder my self and it's done me wonders, even got into a few local top tens on Strava but if my advice offends you, I advise you to ignore it.
I worked in psych for years sometimes use of these types of control are necessary to prevent harm to self and others. I have been spit on, bitten, scratched, hit, kicked, broken wrist and ripped tendons. But they need help so they can help themselves!
Years back I (female) was assaulted at work by a mentally unstable female. This case went to court. Years later I was in bed in a&Erin a&en in a kind of observation ward and on the other side of the dividing curtain there was a very unstable, noisy drunk. I felt very vulnerable.
I’ve never been violent but I’ve been restrained while trying to leave hospital loads when I was really unwell. Seeing people doing their absolute best to help everyone, regardless of condition or situation is under appreciated. 💙
As a retired nurse, iv'e seen lots of violence, mostly because of mental illness, alcohol/drug and relationship problems and, in every department i have ever worked. A good and valued security team is essential to call upon and yes, Accident and Emrgency is the most notorious for verbal and physical abuse towards staff.
The safety of our doctors and nurses here in the US is also increasingly under threat. God bless these wonderful people who have such dangerous jobs and yet go to work every day. You have saved my life many times. ❤❤
What exactly would you charge him with? Time-wasting isn't an arrestable offence, last I knew. The real problem in so many of these situations, is vastly unmet needs for mental health care, substance abuse treatment, and poverty/homelessness resources. Those three conditions feed one upon the other, & in any combination, render the affected individual helpless and hopeless, grasping for anything to assuage their pain, often resulting in stupid and/or terrible outcomes for themselves and others. It's a damn shame nations with great wealth continue to criminalize and marginalize those suffering from these problems rather than providing appropriate resources to meet their citizen's needs - ideally intervening prior to when a crisis state is reached - which only further exacerbates & delays the problem, and the result is exactly what we're seeing. Fatcat bureaucrats and corporate interests sure can come up with a fast billion to go to war, or bail out wealthy fraudsters, but "there's not enough money" to allocate to address these critical needs.
Something is seriously wrong with the system if abusive and violent people are allowed to keep coming back at will. The thing that puzzles me is, that somebody said that they have a duty of care to these people. That accounts for the pussyfooting around. What about a duty of care for the medical staff and patients. Particularly in A&E where some patients are traumatised already.
@@patriciaoreilly8907 I am sure you, and your family, will show some compassion if you get violently assaulted by someone with "mental health issues" This is too often used as an excuse by thugs to get away from any repercussions of their actions. My compassion goes to the hard working staff that are there to HELP people. They are NOT punch bags
I understand both sides here. Obviously its never ok to attack another person, however if you are literally not in control of yourself then these things can happen :( Having serious MH issues myself and times where things happen and I have no memories, its scary af. Its horrible for everyone involved. No one wants to live that way. In a time when MH is still so misunderstood and underfunded (in the uk) its frightening.
Sepsis wnd other phsyical medical emergencies cause this kind of behaviour too. Brain injuries. Dementia. Serotonin syndrome. People have no idea how little control people might have. People die due to mentalities like many in these comments. Its terrifying
I have just learned we don't have felonies in the UK. We have "arrestable" misdemeanors including all battery and "non-arrestable". "Non-arrestable" crimes are arbitrarily those where the theoretical maximum sentence for that type of crime is less than 5 years in prison, thus a warrant must be issued by a court to arrest the person. They really do make it up as they go along, don't they?
@@mikerope5785There is no such thing as an arrestable offence at all in the UK. You can be arrested for any offence but there has to be necessity for the arrest.
Unfortunately there's a few doctors and nurses who treat patients like crap because they did that to me, and when you challenge the reason you're being treated like that the nurses call security and then the police and they deem you as a problem patient which is all wrong! You go to the hospital because your unwell and want to get better and not to be greeted by a nurse and doctor that don't want to be there doing the job! But they don't show you that bit conveniently! That's why they say your not allowed to record in the hospital but they can record you! It's all wrong
Sadly too many. Like the abuse ive experienced by staff is disgusting. I was discharged with neuroleptic malignant syndrome, forcibly removed from the hospital for being 'dispruptive'. I was totally out of my mind due to a serious life threatening illness and they did not care. They put my life at risk and caused lasting damage. In my local hospital, almost everyone will view you as a nuisance. You go in wirh behaviour like this due to sepsis, your getting discharged with sepsis, and possibly dying. Its truly disgusting
I'm from Ontario Canada and I worked security in our local hospitals, mainly in the mental health wings. My scariest encounter was with a young intoxicated man brought in by police. He thought it would be a good idea to light a cigarette in one of our trauma rooms that had oxygen pipes behind the walls and portable tanks all over the room and emergency department. He was naked wrapped in a bed sheet, so where he hid the cigarette and lighter I could only guess to this day.
That aggression thing with waking up flailing about pulling drips and such out happened to me the first time I was put to sleep for an operation, I don't remember any of it though. Something called a Laryngospasm I believe, my airway snapped shut sending me into some kind of panic. My mum was a senior sister at a different hospital at the time and she said it is not that unusual. I was put to sleep for another operation 7 years later for a different thing and everything went fine that time, I wasn't smoking in the weeks before this one because I'd been told that was the likely reason for it happening the first time.
I kicked off once in the hospital - in my defence tho i was psychotic, and once medicated, apologised profusely and copped a section. Its not easy for nurses, my sister is one - and she often tells me the horror stories.
@@becky2235 Yeah, something was really wrong but I was also thrown by the comment that his red eyes were supposed to be part of his issue. They do look a lot like contacts so I also do not understand why he would have an issue with removing them if they bothered him?
What about the hospital staff being violent towards patients and providing appropriate care for mentally ill individuals due to stigma ? I just had this happen back in July. A nurse and doctor came in and physically intimidated me (I had 3rd degree burns on my feet, i could not walk, let alone be violent). But they were trying to force me to leave early. I have PTSD. This caused me MORE PTSD. I had just been in a house fire and the surgeon was like “well half our burns patients go through house fires get over it and move on and I’ll call you a taxi”.. nobody talks about these elitist, intimidating Drs and nurses who are callous or cruel who likely provoke these patients with footage we haven’t even seen😂.
The problem is as well The nhs in the uk. Is in shambles, there's not enough nurses, doctors or funds for it, and instead of actually assess in the mental health of a patient, they just call the police and security, it's ridiculous
The real problem in so many of these situations, is vastly unmet needs for mental health care, substance abuse treatment, and poverty/homelessness resources. Those three conditions feed one upon the other, & in any combination, render the affected individual helpless and hopeless, grasping for anything to assuage their pain, often resulting in stupid and/or terrible outcomes for themselves and others. It's a damn shame nations with great wealth continue to criminalize and marginalize those suffering from these problems rather than providing appropriate resources to meet their citizen's needs - ideally intervening prior to when a crisis state is reached - which only further exacerbates & delays the problem, and the result is exactly what we're seeing. Fatcat bureaucrats and corporate interests sure can come up with a fast billion to go to war, or bail out wealthy fraudsters, but "there's not enough money" to allocate to address these critical needs.
Like this daily in most A&E across the UK , poor mental health services . No wonder there is a lack of doctors and nurses , they get away with assault . It's horrendous, imagine dealing with this during a 12 hour shift .
Its hard being compassionate to these people when they are being physically violent. I think hospitals should be more strict with these kinds of people
My heart hurts for Scott. Waking up from a 10 hour surgery is brutal and it definitely doesn’t seem like his normal behavior. John is great…. They all are.
I feel for everyone who has to be deal with these situations. From the medical teams, security and other patients. I know some truly are in a different state of mind and are completely out of it. However many are just angry and/or drunk or on other substances which is no excuse. No one should go to work every day worried about their safety, their colleges safety and also the safety of their patients. It’s just like this here in the US in the medical field and unfortunately teachers (and us parents/guardians sending out children to school.)
They should have face guards on. Spitting is so common. These people are not in their right minds. They think you are the devil or someone out to do them harm and so they become combative. It is amazing how strong even little old lady’s can become when they lose it!
Not even true. So much of this isnt even mental health crisis. Its sepsis. Its hospital delirium. It's serotonin syndroms. Its brain injury. People really have no idea...
The lunatic is in my head The lunatic is in my head You raise the blade You make the change You rearrange me 'til I'm sane You lock the door And throw away the key There's someone in my head, but it's not me...............
I was in an and e before when an incident like this happened they had to shut the entire minor injuries department and get the police in. Was horrendous when ur there sick and that’s going on. Thank god the staff got it dealt with and sorted and ensured people were safe away from the person.
There are two sides for the story This is going to hurt many but truth is truth people who works there , each one of u got a CHOICE , but unfortunately patience do not! And pls remember any of these patients can be you’re loved ones tomorrow. Nothing is promised, God can take the things he has given us!!
It used to be that people cared enough to do a low paid job. Has that changed? I think not But they are overworked and don't understand why a few patients think they are for disrespecting.
Can't believe some comments refer to a "mean drunk" as special needs, would you go sit in an emergency room with him or have him removed? If he was in a curtained room, would you feel threatened and want him taken out? Yeah I thought so.
Not one mention of why people with mental health/addiction issues are going to emergency departments? That'll be the non existant ' care in the community ' .
Not getting a Doctor's appointment until the Following February took me to A&E following Self Harm last October. If I had got an appointment with my GP I would have been helped! They were lovely and didn't judge me. In fact they were horrified that the GP didn't see me.
I was a young nurse when the decision was made to start closing mental health hospitals and transition long term patients out to the community. We called it “Couldn’t Care less in the Community” and the damage to society continues. Government, Big Business, Ruling Elite, all are to blame for the destruction of society and the locking away of funds in a few hands. We are living in a dystopian world but it just isn’t acknowledged
If Dean wants to be at the hospital so much, maybe he should put down the Special Brew and apply for a porter job! He clearly doesnt have a job and seems to love spending the majority of his time at the hospital but i disagree with the mental health team - the fact he keeps doing this shows somethings not right in his head (unless it is due to his alcoholism)..Goodness me!
I once got sectioned after a mental health episode, but only after years of abuse. I just snapped, I'm all better now but I don't believe in abusing anyone trying to help you. Some of these people are just out of order!!!! I would never abuse someone one only there for your benefit. I feel sorry for those security guards, spitting is so disgusting, send him to a secure unit.
How do you kmow? Often they aren't. They're just trying to get rid of them. Even if the behaviour is caused by sepsis. Brain injury. Worsening dementia. And so much more
@@codybrown1211Medical personnel can tell the difference between medical emergency that alters consciousness and being straight up rude, threatening and entitled.
Really? I was pacing an empty ER in the US once and had a security guard try to order me to sit down but you think security in the US doesn't have things under control? Sure...
@@jayblackshire Maybe you gave off an extra broody and dangerous vibe? 😂 Or you made the guard nervous with all that pacing in a moment they could have enjoyed some actual peace and quiet? Would be understandable if they wanted you to stop in that case. :)
@@Kirmeins If a scrawny guy in a hospital gown with a blanket makes security feel unsafe, they need to reassess their line of work lmao. The staff came flying out to defend me luckily. They told him to get the fuck away from me and to let me do my pacing to my hearts content. He claimed that his boss saw me on the cameras and sent down word to make me sit down because it looked like I was up to something. I was. I was trying to self-regulate my PTSD. The same damn condition that had me walk 2 miles barefoot to that ER seeking assistance because I'd had a wicked nasty flashback and I was a risk to myself and others, but it's so ingrained in me that I get to a hospital under those conditions that I walked right in to the nearest emerg half disassociated and just recited my name and conditions to the receptionist three times before I realized that she was starring at my arm because it was covered in blood (that I still don't know what happened to).
I don't know where this is filmed It probably mentioned it in the video and I missed it. But I am astonished by how empty that A&E waiting room is? It literally shocked me. Whee I live no matter what time of the day you go it is absolutely jam packed with 6 to 8 hours waiting time for a triage with a nurse and then another 2 - 3 hours after that to see a doctor . During lockdown I went and a young man had suffered a heart attack he was unconscious in his friends passenger seat and the friend was screaming for a nurse or doctor to come and help him. I was astounded that nurses casually sauntered past the situation not doing anything after 40 minutes some medical professionals came out and started saying mockingly is he actually unconscious or just pretending. It was an hour before they got him out the car, not sure what happened to him. fast forward a few months I was back in again the place was packed and long waiting times and some old guy died in the waiting room and despite several women reporting it to the reception area he was left there for ages
The question, is why are people ending up with these mental health problems to start with. In the community people are getting failed so often at every stage of life. Poor education, poor housing, homelessness.. not enough people are tackling these injustices , the result is broken, mentally unstable, angry and violent people. It's a build up of decades of neglect.
The major problem seems to be these frequent flyers who are homeless, on drugs or alcohol, and have mental issues. They abuse resources and always win with rides and whatever they can get for free. They keep coming back and repeating the same abuse.
Some times what u see on video is not what u always see when you are in a mental hoisiptal some times the staff makes fun of ppl that should not be allowed
re MH patients, glad to see the insight that uniforms could scare people. really wish there were more women to deal with female patients though, as being manhandled by male security can be so retraumatising.
I agree, my daughter has complex mental health needs, and males in uniform terrify her due to a previous trauma, and she goes straight into fight or flight. She really can't help it. The issue I have found is that most hospitals don't know how to deal with mental health patients. However in times of crisis, there is nowhere else for them to go 🥺
@@velvetdip the other issue is leaving MH patients unattended in A&E so long that they eventually kick off or try to leave, and then they set security on them. that’s down to pressures on an overwhelmed system needing to triage according to their depleted resources, but the effect is awful. x
I feel for the ones that are genuinely mentally ill, sometimes being aggressive is driven by the absolute fear that they are experiencing.
And the funny thing is, most of the times the violence and aggression comes from drunk people, not those with genuine mental healh issues.
All of my coworkers and I dread friday and saturday evenings for a reason.
Good Doctors will see the Genuine ones suffering fear . Some of these trest Hospitals like a hotel or doss house.
@SensationalBanana thank you for your service and saving lives. You shouldn't have to deal with drunk people like that, but you have to admit that the mental health system, at least in the uk, is it almost non existent because there is literally no funding for the nhs or people who mental health issues
@@racheldemain1940 na, this doesn't happen. They don't care. Ive been delirious and psychotic due go medication the hospital should never have given me, and was absolutely terrified for my life. I thought people were trying to harm me. The nurses said they were concerned by a change in presentation, as i was not this unwell beforehand and wasnt making any sense now, was seeing this, fully believed things that werent true. They asked the mental health team to see me again, who decided I just wanted attention. Turns out i had neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which is life threatening. They kicked me out using security while i was in this state. They put my life in danger. And this happens every single day. I fully believed i was being kidnapped by these security guards and absolutely could not get into a taxi home, believing i would not actually be taken home. I was so so scared. The most scared ive ever been. If you are seen as a 'nuisance' to them, they don't care, even if its due to a serious medical condition. They would rather you die. Thats how bad things are....
Very true with dementia. We're perceived as a threat.
I can fully attest to the accuracy this episode exposes. I worked 20 years in a neuropsych hospital in Texas, and aggressive, combative patients were a daily thing. Myself, the worst I got was a disslocated jaw and 4 dead teeth from a man who had put 4 big men in the emergency room the within the month prior to clocking me. The medical profession demands that you be physically fit enough to hold your own in the unexpected whilst practicing your " first, do no harm".
Attest to what dumbo its a video we can see it happening 😂😂😂 not like its speculation.
Oh deathbed 3rd ax erg NJ
That’s insane. You’re a nurse and a security woman and a police officer. It’s unacceptable to be responsible for all of this. Does your employer pay for all medical fees? A nurse was hidden behind a cloth cubical. The bottom 1-2 ft was not covered. She was being choked and he’d held her above the cloth. It was lucky someone spotted her. 19:06
@@bobosdoyle1355 What a dumb thing to call someone dumb for attempting to assure people of the accuracy of a video, mate. It's like you believe all videos are always 100% accurate and never cut out vital scenes or information that may have caused one to assess what they saw and heard very differently. News flash for you: There is a bunch of good reasons why video "proof" is not considered proof in a court case and the one I just mentioned is only one of them. Add to that all those scammers using AI these days to generate pictures and videos you'd better stop believing everything you see in the internet because a few years ahead AI WILL be able to completely make up super realistic videos about whatever the prompt tells them to. Even now there is so much tailored and streamlined video out here that you should be careful what you take for real and what not. Always retain some doubt unless you regularily experience these things yourself.
I’m a recently retired flight nurse. I’ve seen and dealt with it all. You can imagine the danger a mentally ill person could possibly cause in a helicopter. We had to be so very careful.
I’m so so sorry that you all who work in a&e have to go through this.
No matter how poorly i i was (and I’ve been poorly, mentally and physically and emotionally while in a&e) i wouldn’t dream of treating staff like this. All they’re trying to do is help us. I’ve only got praise for the NHS workers. They are a wonderful bunch.
Let’s treat them right.
Not just Accident and Emergency it's on all the wards too
Most Doctors can tell if a patient is being combative due to a brain trauma rather than being rude. I had to go to A&E last October and was a bit stressed ( with myself) but I wouldn't attack anyone who is there to care for me. They were lovely and got me patched up .
Um.... You realise that if the behaviour is due to psychosis, or a brain injury, or dementia or delirium (common in hospitals), they can't just choose not to behave like that. Not how it works. I was nearly killed by a&e staff who missed neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which had caused me to suddenly develop psychosis/delirium while in hospital. Instead of treating the medical condition, i was forcibly removed and my life put at serious risk. Maybe be sorry to those who are killed daily by ignorance instead of legitimate medical care they need. Its thinking like this that allows them to get away with this level of abuse towards patients...
No non of us would but we don't know what future holds with mental health issues
Bless Scott, he seems like a really nice lad I can only imagine how embarrassed and guilty he felt when they told him what had happened when he fully came round!
It's an occupational hazard, it happened to me once as well. I've no memory of it though.
@@Chicken-x6q6d Coming out of anesthesia badly? :-/
@@nerysghemor5781 Yeah.
@@Chicken-x6q6d That’s got to suck. I guess it’s best that you don’t remember it.
My daughter is mentally I'll & wow!!! At times I had to be around & just pray for the ambulance come & get her. But after being sectioned three times, i have, thank God, decided i will try on my own, but with the Mental health team's advice, to never again take her to the hospital but to monitor her myself & see if i can do something to address the suffering of people who are mentally sick. I will hold my daughter hands & support her until my last breath on this earth. It's a very difficult task, but i am determined to help her to live a sane life as much as she can. Mental illness is the worst illness on planet earth.
May God help you.
Good for you I'm proud of you hope she improves but it's vital you get breaks even it's a foot spa when she's inbed or a luxury bath
🙏💙
If a flower is ill, check the environment.
It truly is the worst because only one person can really see it. Best of luck to you and your daughter, the mind is not an easy thing to deal with
As someone who has been admitted to the psychiatric hospital five separate times, I can say that this behavior from certain patients can be quite unsettling to witness in real life. I once saw a fellow patient throw a chair at a nurse.
ive been in and out of psych hospitals my whole life and ive seen it all. i watched a drunk guy fight a cop and get tased multiple times
My husband has been in and out for years. I hate hearing the screaming when I talk to him on the phone! It’s a nightmare.
It’s a sad state of affairs when it’s come to this. Attacking the people who are trying to help. I’m a nurse and see this regularly.
Aside from using tranquilliser drugs, it’s clear that care in the community is not working in dealing with mental health issues and I suspect that illegal drugs are fuelling these rises in violent mental health episodes long term
@@michaeljohndennis2231 Care in the Community does work once your "on the books" of an MH team. Me personally was flaming crazy for 9 months before i finally got assessed for schizophrenia, the waiting lists are horrendous. Its almost like they totally left me to lose the plot - before i was taken seriously, to prove that i was that ill.
Here is where we show how we have stopped looking after each other on an informal basis with the background of Christianity.
Me too. They talk to us any way they want.
@@michaeljohndennis2231 no I don't take drugs never have I've bpd, autism, psychosis paronis
I have worked in ICU and ER for the last 25 years as an RN in the USA. I have both my biceps reattached by surgical means and a CHI thanks to a kick to the temple. Psych patients and ETOH patients are truly a danger to the healthcare team. And PTSD is a real thing for nurses who have been injured like I have others should be believed and treated with more empathy and respect than I got from the hospitals I worked in. To those RN’s and staff that have been injured get help and stay strong you are going to be ok.♥️💚
Sorry you went through all this. 😢 Nurses are highly underrated. A nurse friend says you can run a hospital without doctors but not without nurses. I would add that security are also essential. I guess it a team approach. Thanks for your service.
My father was a Dr/surgeon who was murderer whilst at work in the accident & emergency department. He was getting into hs car to actually pick me up from school, I was 9 at the time. There was no security at the time of his murder😢 These security should be in EVERY hostpital. Please, government
I'm so sorry.. I've lost my dad very young too - I cannot imagine how much it must have hurt to loose him in that manner. I hope that there at least was justice served and your family found peace and semblance of healing despite that devastating loss.
There absolutely should be security around hospitals - I've heard horrendous stories from nurses and one female doctor about being followed to their cars or onto buses. It was cheaper to let staff park ...a few meters further, beyond a car gate...but with no fence or any other barrier for human entry - as if that'd stop an assailant. They just don't care.
I do feel for dean abit , he’s obviously got some very deep rooted mental health issues and what he’s doing is probably a cry for help
I was assaulted by a schizophrenic/dementia patient. She snapped my neck and I had two surgeries,a year apart and never recovered. 65% permanently disabled. On the OTHER hand, after hip surgery I had a med reaction, pain meds and Zoloft. I had Serotonin toxicity, lost MY mind, kicked a nurse in the head and had to be tied to the bed! I thank God that I don't remember those three days!
You fruitcake!😳
Fake as fuck
Fake as shit
You will probably know that people don't know what is happening when recovering from a General.
All you know is what you have been told. But I remember a double ended knitting needle being drawn up through a black square on a chessboard. In the dentist's.
@20chocsaday all I'm saying is don't believe everything u see online. A lot of these people and news channels exaggerate things, and a lot of people online will make things up to get attention and try to appear sympathetic.
I’m a recently retired flight nurse in the USA. I’ve seen and dealt with it all. You can’t even imagine how dangerous a patient like this can be in a helicopter. We had to be so careful and act as best we could to prevent anyone from getting hurt. My heart breaks for truly ill patients who honestly have no control. On the other hand, there are some people who are better dealt with by police and or other agencies. It’s a delicate balance trying to help those who are truly ill and those who just want attention.
I love flight nurses. I have a soft spot for them. My veins are difficult and they tend to not miss near as much.
Being aggressive when coming round from surgery is quite common. I was told I was ratty and crappy coming round from spine surgery. The nurses apparently wouldn't put up with my crap and upped whatever it was that kept me quiet and asleep. I was mortified when they told me but they laughed saying it wasn't uncommon with perfectly nice people after a heavy op with lots of anaesthesia.
Sometimes it can be a bit genetic. My grandpa and aunt freak out when coming around, ripping tubes out, kicking out etc. My grandpa has passed but my aunt pre warns them whenevers shes been in since. My dad isnt affected so I hope Ive missed out on those genes.
It's not uncommon but it's also not ok. You need to get a very, very good workup. Psych and medical. There's something wrong. It's not a fault thing but it is a canary in the coal mine thing. Figure out what it is so you can fix it. The drugs don't make you do anything. They can completely erase inhibition and anger is a defense mechanism. Trauma isn't always something we are consciously aware of and genetic differences can alter the way you react to different meds. My son is a red head and it takes so much to numb him, they literally gave to use the absolute max for his weight and they have to be fast because he metabolizes it like air. Look really close at your childhood. Anything that could have made you feel unsafe, were your parents scary, was there a bullying incident at school that made you feel helpless and afraid? It could even be something as simply as being restrained as an infant for shots or circumcision. They didn't routinely even try to numb boys before the 80s I think and the effect it has on the infant brain looks just like soldiers traumatized by war. Get yourself looked at because it's not gone, whatever it is, it's still there.
Edited to add: I just checked and it was 1978. That was when they adopted trying to numb the penis. What parents are not told is, it often doesn't work for one reason or another and the numbing itself is extremely painful and terrifying for a freshly born baby.
@@franny5295🤣 what a load of shit!
Been to hospital twice this last month to a&e with my husband, as he needs surgery. It’s full of drunks, mental health patients and like a druggie drop in. We heard doctors telling some patients who literally go there for not much, this is accident and emergency. You need to be seeing your GP- don’t get me wrong, I know it’s almost impossible to get doc appointments, but it really adds to wait times for people who really do have a life threatening problem. 10 hours we waited each time we had to go in. My husband was in agony. He had a massive gal bladder infection, and also diabetic. And literally some butter walking around in a dressing gown, on drugs and alcohol annoying everyone. Swearing…. We need to sort this out.
If you haven't had n accident, and it's not a medical emergency, there should be a £50 charge.
Too many use A&E instead of getting an appointment with their GP.
Not all mentally ill are 8:20 drinking alchoalir drugs I don't I'm sorry your husband was wAiting a long while but I can assure you if mentally ill patients are triaged as green I've been waiting 16 hours before ivesaidbim leaving one occasion it was Onam I was told it could be six am before we're seen nodiubtyou husband was taken to resusbor bed vays that away from us on rock iron chairs were ones in danger from drunks druggies people who get talking to you and unnerve you kids have a separate wzit area if us mentally ill or learing difficulties had one either magazines friends either them
@@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrimyou can't get GP appoints done mental health issues are often undera psychiatrist so you can't go running to gpd
@@bunglejoy3645had to wait cpl of weeks for a dr appointment, they are available, but many want an appointment immediately. Also, many ask for 'their' doctor, just see anyone ffs. You call in at a certain time and can get a quicker appointment.
Worked in secure hospitals in uk and Australia, it’s an everyday occurrence for violence on hospital staff, skills are very quickly developed to deal with these on a verbal and physical level
God bless these doctors, nurses and security ❤❤❤. They are so valuable to todays society.
And we're losing them in droves, they need more resources and every country is going through this. It's terrible 😢
..and the police 🚔 👍
What’s a god?
How many “todays” could there be?
I hear stories from my young bro who is a full time security at a hospital and his wife also worked at the same hospital before becoming a stay at home mom. It's wild
Some months ago I was in hospital, I also was aware my mental health was bad and the A&E doctors requested the mental health team come. They refused. I was in hospital for almost a week and in the middle of the night I had one very rare mental health crisis. Still the mental health team refused to come.
Apparently they will not see someone with a mental health crisis/difficulty whilst they are being treated for a physical illness.
At the end of my stay I was sent home, that was March, to this day I’ve still not had contact with the mental health team.
I recognise all this is not good for NHS staff, but we also need to realise that for many, the mental health services in the UK are virtually nonexistent.
and when you finally get to the top of the waiting list the mental health team and services are rude arrogant and lazy they lie through their backteeth no wonder their is a crisis of mental health in the UK
I have Mental Health issues but I wouldn't DREAM of attaching or verbally abuse Hospotal staff. I didn't even WANT to have to go to A&E knowing others need it more than me!! It was only because I couldn't get a GP appointment. I was agitated but that was nerves. I treated the team with respect and gratitude for their help.
I've been suffering with extreme serious physical and mental health issues for 9months and I've turned up to A&E a dozen times trying to tell them there's something physical causing it all. One time I got quite aggressive because they were telling me it's all in my head while I'm crying in physical pain.
@@Owen-sm7obcan you possibly get help from your doctor ? I hope you can then just take one day at a time ❤❤
Thank.god there are people like you to deal with these unhinged individuals ....!
Too many unhinged ones walk among us. Like Reform Ltd voters.
Products of today’s society. 😢
@@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim…or so called asylum seekers.
I hope the gentleman Scott who had brain surgery is doing well, I can totally understand that happening especially dealing with the brain. I started to have seizures a year or so ago at 34 years old. I’d never had them before, my husband said he woke up in the middle of the night to it happening. When I came out of the first one he said I tried to sit up and immediately went back into another one so he had to call 911. The last thing I remember is falling asleep the night before, I woke up in the hospital so confused. I didn’t know where I was or what was happening, it’s scary to see yourself hooked up to a million things and you don’t remember how you got there. It took me hours to have a clear mind, my brain hurt for like a week. I had another one shortly after, that one was so bad I bit through my tongue and cracked a tooth. My teeth must’ve been clenched so hard with my tongue stuck in between. My husband said he was scared to death, when he turned me on my side blood came out of my mouth. I’m on medication now to control them, I still don’t have a direct answer as to why they started happening.
I hope all is well with you.❤️🩹
This reminds me of my recent experience at hospital. A couple of months ago I had to keep going back into hospital each day for 4 days, each time i was told to go to A&E, each time they discharged me for a "Urine infection". It turns out I had appendicitis, the doctors didn't believe me, my family didnt, my friends didnt. I was just lucky that ONE doctor finally took the time to do a scan for me and after the scan it took the doctors noticing i was eating in a waiting room 3 hours after the scan for them to finally tell me i needed emergency surgery as it was about to burst... they will of thought i was a nuisance patient... £50 down on taxis because i physically couldnt make it to the bus stop 100 metres away and no sick pay for 2 weeks after surgery :D
about to be a "nuisance patient" again as they found a cyst on my ovary at the same time that they said theyd remove in surgery but didnt and it's still causing me issues and pain to this day :)
Me too.... I was forcibly removed from the hospital for what turned out to be something life threatening that was causing ms to suddenly become extremely psychotic and delirious. This video never once really touches on how many people have NO CONTROL ocer this behaviour or it beinf the reault of seirous medical conditions they cant help. People frequently die of sepsis due to this mentality. Its truly evil. They want everyone to believe this is choice when for most people here it probably is not
@@codybrown1211Psychosis from medical condition can be easily distinguished by any semi-competent member of staff. Hell, probably even experienced housekeeping staff can tell from just the difference in behaviour.
10:10 im sorry but the british accent makes this moment seem like something from a Monthy Python movie, especielly because he immediately denies making the threat😂😂😂
My brother has schizophrenia. If his meds don't get filled or he misses one...........BOY!!! He can move mountains!
Should get him a push bike.
In a factory one day a man stopped being very exacting in his work suddenly because an elephant bull in strength.
But then was able to sit beside a female nurse on the way to hospital.
The factory lost a good man and some production. I don't know where he is now but I hope he is happy.
@@probablygrimI don't think that's funny
@@bunglejoy3645 Well I have a schizoaffective type disorder my self and it's done me wonders, even got into a few local top tens on Strava but if my advice offends you, I advise you to ignore it.
I worked in psych for years sometimes use of these types of control are necessary to prevent harm to self and others. I have been spit on, bitten, scratched, hit, kicked, broken wrist and ripped tendons. But they need help so they can help themselves!
Years back I (female) was assaulted at work by a mentally unstable female. This case went to court. Years later I was in bed in a&Erin a&en in a kind of observation ward and on the other side of the dividing curtain there was a very unstable, noisy drunk. I felt very vulnerable.
Double nasty. Especially as they can't be chained down any longer.
I work in a major london a&e and its scary how accurate this actually is! This is a daily basis! We have our own security team just for a&e
Our local Hospital has security!! It's scary that we need it here in a supposedly quiet town.
And this folks is why nurses are leaving the profession
I’ve never been violent but I’ve been restrained while trying to leave hospital loads when I was really unwell.
Seeing people doing their absolute best to help everyone, regardless of condition or situation is under appreciated. 💙
Omg I LOVE these kinds of shows!! Everyone I know in the profession and myself have had to deal with this stuff.
As a retired nurse, iv'e seen lots of violence, mostly because of mental illness, alcohol/drug and relationship problems and, in every department i have ever worked. A good and valued security team is essential to call upon and yes, Accident and Emrgency is the most notorious for verbal and physical abuse towards staff.
iv done hospital security and some people genuinely are ill mentally. unfortunately there are some pure idiots
It's makes me angry that people think it is okay to assault the paramedics and NHS staff who are just trying to help them
Refusing to leave because he's not got any accommodation is ridiculous. Nothing NHS issue.
Great job keeping everyone safe.
The safety of our doctors and nurses here in the US is also increasingly under threat. God bless these wonderful people who have such dangerous jobs and yet go to work every day. You have saved my life many times. ❤❤
It’s world wide, not just‘Merica. At least the rest of the world doesn’t have ridiculous gun laws I suppose.
dean should be arrested and charged each time for wasting all this time
What exactly would you charge him with? Time-wasting isn't an arrestable offence, last I knew. The real problem in so many of these situations, is vastly unmet needs for mental health care, substance abuse treatment, and poverty/homelessness resources. Those three conditions feed one upon the other, & in any combination, render the affected individual helpless and hopeless, grasping for anything to assuage their pain, often resulting in stupid and/or terrible outcomes for themselves and others.
It's a damn shame nations with great wealth continue to criminalize and marginalize those suffering from these problems rather than providing appropriate resources to meet their citizen's needs - ideally intervening prior to when a crisis state is reached - which only further exacerbates & delays the problem, and the result is exactly what we're seeing. Fatcat bureaucrats and corporate interests sure can come up with a fast billion to go to war, or bail out wealthy fraudsters, but "there's not enough money" to allocate to address these critical needs.
Well said. My thoughts exactly
Something is seriously wrong with the system if abusive and violent people are allowed to keep coming back at will.
The thing that puzzles me is, that somebody said that they have a duty of care to these people. That accounts for the pussyfooting around.
What about a duty of care for the medical staff and patients. Particularly in
A&E where some patients are traumatised already.
Hospital security officers do a hard job and don't get enough respect
Had to deal with this for 8 years. I’m glad this part of my life is over, this job aged me so badly.
Thank you for your service 🙏🏻
Absolutely disgusting, that staff are subjected to this kind of violence
They are mentally ill 🤒 show compassion.
@@patriciaoreilly8907 how the hell can you show compassion when hard working staff are being violently attacked!!
@@patriciaoreilly8907 I am sure you, and your family, will show some compassion if you get violently assaulted by someone with "mental health issues"
This is too often used as an excuse by thugs to get away from any repercussions of their actions.
My compassion goes to the hard working staff that are there to HELP people. They are NOT punch bags
@@patriciaoreilly8907Mental illness doesn't excuse this behaviour.
@@iceman20031979Being drunk used to be used 'in mitigation' till a judge doubled the penalty because of that plea.
I understand both sides here. Obviously its never ok to attack another person, however if you are literally not in control of yourself then these things can happen :( Having serious MH issues myself and times where things happen and I have no memories, its scary af. Its horrible for everyone involved. No one wants to live that way. In a time when MH is still so misunderstood and underfunded (in the uk) its frightening.
Sepsis wnd other phsyical medical emergencies cause this kind of behaviour too. Brain injuries. Dementia. Serotonin syndrome. People have no idea how little control people might have. People die due to mentalities like many in these comments. Its terrifying
I totally agree I have serious mental health issues I gave to be honest I don't know where future goes for us
A hospital is NOT a hotel 🤷♀️
It's quite a miserable place to be really
I’m here in America in Illinois and it’s a felony to assault a health care worker of any kind
How can they consider Fred 'mentality okay '?
Our country has fallen to be an embarrassment
I have just learned we don't have felonies in the UK. We have "arrestable" misdemeanors including all battery and "non-arrestable". "Non-arrestable" crimes are arbitrarily those where the theoretical maximum sentence for that type of crime is less than 5 years in prison, thus a warrant must be issued by a court to arrest the person. They really do make it up as they go along, don't they?
@@mikerope5785There is no such thing as an arrestable offence at all in the UK. You can be arrested for any offence but there has to be necessity for the arrest.
Some behavour staff isnt very nice to
Unfortunately there's a few doctors and nurses who treat patients like crap because they did that to me, and when you challenge the reason you're being treated like that the nurses call security and then the police and they deem you as a problem patient which is all wrong! You go to the hospital because your unwell and want to get better and not to be greeted by a nurse and doctor that don't want to be there doing the job! But they don't show you that bit conveniently! That's why they say your not allowed to record in the hospital but they can record you! It's all wrong
Sadly too many. Like the abuse ive experienced by staff is disgusting. I was discharged with neuroleptic malignant syndrome, forcibly removed from the hospital for being 'dispruptive'. I was totally out of my mind due to a serious life threatening illness and they did not care. They put my life at risk and caused lasting damage. In my local hospital, almost everyone will view you as a nuisance. You go in wirh behaviour like this due to sepsis, your getting discharged with sepsis, and possibly dying. Its truly disgusting
I'm from Ontario Canada and I worked security in our local hospitals, mainly in the mental health wings. My scariest encounter was with a young intoxicated man brought in by police. He thought it would be a good idea to light a cigarette in one of our trauma rooms that had oxygen pipes behind the walls and portable tanks all over the room and emergency department. He was naked wrapped in a bed sheet, so where he hid the cigarette and lighter I could only guess to this day.
There is a lack of understanding regarding mental health at A&E's across the country.
security is paramount to good health, great show guys
It's not just the workers, but it's also other sick/ill patients and visitors 😮
Some people have epilepsy there seizures only manifests as anger!!!
Of my 25 years as an RN I was fortunate that I wasn’t assaulted in any way. I never worked in A&E though ❤️
That aggression thing with waking up flailing about pulling drips and such out happened to me the first time I was put to sleep for an operation, I don't remember any of it though. Something called a Laryngospasm I believe, my airway snapped shut sending me into some kind of panic.
My mum was a senior sister at a different hospital at the time and she said it is not that unusual. I was put to sleep for another operation 7 years later for a different thing and everything went fine that time, I wasn't smoking in the weeks before this one because I'd been told that was the likely reason for it happening the first time.
Can only say that a angry person with a good heart is dangerous too.
Got to realise dark spirits exist. They operate the world leaders too. Wake the people up medical industry. Humanity first.
This feels like they needed a straight jacket. No wonder why patients are aggressive and misbehaving. Unbelievable.
What a great show!
It's very sad that hospitals are now needing security staff
I kicked off once in the hospital - in my defence tho i was psychotic, and once medicated, apologised profusely and copped a section. Its not easy for nurses, my sister is one - and she often tells me the horror stories.
It's good that you can see both sides.
Wearing red contacts and passing it off as being sick... Smh
Are you a doctor? To be kept in for 2 weeks something was really wrong! Maybe he liked the contacts
Talk about judgemental?!
@@becky2235 Yeah, something was really wrong but I was also thrown by the comment that his red eyes were supposed to be part of his issue. They do look a lot like contacts so I also do not understand why he would have an issue with removing them if they bothered him?
I know! He’s just a drug abuser who doesn’t want to work. As if it’s the hospitals responsibility that he decided to be a scumbag.
What about the hospital staff being violent towards patients and providing appropriate care for mentally ill individuals due to stigma ? I just had this happen back in July. A nurse and doctor came in and physically intimidated me (I had 3rd degree burns on my feet, i could not walk, let alone be violent). But they were trying to force me to leave early. I have PTSD. This caused me MORE PTSD. I had just been in a house fire and the surgeon was like “well half our burns patients go through house fires get over it and move on and I’ll call you a taxi”.. nobody talks about these elitist, intimidating
Drs and nurses who are callous or cruel who likely provoke these patients with footage we haven’t even seen😂.
They told you to leave and "get it over with" with 3rd degree burns?
I concur. I'm stll injured 2 years after being attacked by a patient in a medium secure psychiatric hospital
The problem is as well The nhs in the uk. Is in shambles, there's not enough nurses, doctors or funds for it, and instead of actually assess in the mental health of a patient, they just call the police and security, it's ridiculous
This. People die of things lile sepsis because they dont assess people fully. They just call security
SOME times ppl dont want to be sent to mental hoisiptals bc some say they don't like how they get treated
The real problem in so many of these situations, is vastly unmet needs for mental health care, substance abuse treatment, and poverty/homelessness resources. Those three conditions feed one upon the other, & in any combination, render the affected individual helpless and hopeless, grasping for anything to assuage their pain, often resulting in stupid and/or terrible outcomes for themselves and others.
It's a damn shame nations with great wealth continue to criminalize and marginalize those suffering from these problems rather than providing appropriate resources to meet their citizen's needs - ideally intervening prior to when a crisis state is reached - which only further exacerbates & delays the problem, and the result is exactly what we're seeing. Fatcat bureaucrats and corporate interests sure can come up with a fast billion to go to war, or bail out wealthy fraudsters, but "there's not enough money" to allocate to address these critical needs.
Like this daily in most A&E across the UK , poor mental health services . No wonder there is a lack of doctors and nurses , they get away with assault . It's horrendous, imagine dealing with this during a 12 hour shift .
Isnt just mental health. Sepsis can cause behaviour like this...
Its hard being compassionate to these people when they are being physically violent. I think hospitals should be more strict with these kinds of people
My heart hurts for Scott. Waking up from a 10 hour surgery is brutal and it definitely doesn’t seem like his normal behavior. John is great…. They all are.
I feel for everyone who has to be deal with these situations. From the medical teams, security and other patients. I know some truly are in a different state of mind and are completely out of it. However many are just angry and/or drunk or on other substances which is no excuse. No one should go to work every day worried about their safety, their colleges safety and also the safety of their patients. It’s just like this here in the US in the medical field and unfortunately teachers (and us parents/guardians sending out children to school.)
Its not- treat everyone the same , unfortunately mental health patients need alittle more
They should have face guards on. Spitting is so common. These people are not in their right minds. They think you are the devil or someone out to do them harm and so they become combative. It is amazing how strong even little old lady’s can become when they lose it!
If the government properly funded mental health then things like this wont happen as often
Not even true. So much of this isnt even mental health crisis. Its sepsis. Its hospital delirium. It's serotonin syndroms. Its brain injury. People really have no idea...
People like Fred should be told NO MORE NHS CARE after they assaulted a nurse
Uman rights infringement
Ryanair uses that principal.
and so is assaulting anybody for any reason in the UK and plenty of other countries around the world, save the middle east, sadly.
You can't refuse patient some care in case they die
@@bunglejoy3645 who is responsible if a patient dies from neglect while waiting in emergency departments?
Is every where not only in UK, it’s the mental problem and the lack of support for this patients.
TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ❤🙏🏽🙏
The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade
You make the change
You rearrange me 'til I'm sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head, but it's not me...............
We get this all day every day in A&E. It is just accepted.
I was in an and e before when an incident like this happened they had to shut the entire minor injuries department and get the police in. Was horrendous when ur there sick and that’s going on. Thank god the staff got it dealt with and sorted and ensured people were safe away from the person.
But where do they go for treatment if not at A+E they WILL die but then again were out of site out of mind we often feel same way
I've worked as security in a hospital, and it can be rewarding but also hard work ive bin attacked multiple times
@0:28 IS THAT THE WHITE DEE FROM THAT BENIFIT PROGRAM THAT WAS ON A FEW YEARS AGO LOL
Some of the security guards are well good looking 😅
100% agree with zero tollerance to idiots who turn violent on staff of any kind in hospital.
Most of these people need mental health hospitals, why the f were they all shut down
The "Q" word is a no-no in every medical center the world over. 😉
never say that. it'll jinx everything lmao
The q word? Queen? Honestly, I don't know.
@@reneebarnhart1836 18.22 q = quiet
And a bus drivers
What does the word Q even stand for??
There are two sides for the story
This is going to hurt many but truth is truth people who works there , each one of u got a CHOICE , but unfortunately patience do not!
And pls remember any of these patients can be you’re loved ones tomorrow.
Nothing is promised, God can take the things he has given us!!
It used to be that people cared enough to do a low paid job.
Has that changed? I think not But they are overworked and don't understand why a few patients think they are for disrespecting.
Can't believe some comments refer to a "mean drunk" as special needs, would you go sit in an emergency room with him or have him removed? If he was in a curtained room, would you feel threatened and want him taken out? Yeah I thought so.
Don't drink if it makes you mean.
Not one mention of why people with mental health/addiction issues are going to emergency departments? That'll be the non existant ' care in the community ' .
Not getting a Doctor's appointment until the Following February took me to A&E following Self Harm last October. If I had got an appointment with my GP I would have been helped! They were lovely and didn't judge me. In fact they were horrified that the GP didn't see me.
I was a young nurse when the decision was made to start closing mental health hospitals and transition long term patients out to the community. We called it “Couldn’t Care less in the Community” and the damage to society continues. Government, Big Business, Ruling Elite, all are to blame for the destruction of society and the locking away of funds in a few hands. We are living in a dystopian world but it just isn’t acknowledged
The hospital I work at has a full Security Staff and codes that we call to keep us safe. Sad.
67,000 assaults. What a pain.
If Dean wants to be at the hospital so much, maybe he should put down the Special Brew and apply for a porter job! He clearly doesnt have a job and seems to love spending the majority of his time at the hospital but i disagree with the mental health team - the fact he keeps doing this shows somethings not right in his head (unless it is due to his alcoholism)..Goodness me!
I once got sectioned after a mental health episode, but only after years of abuse. I just snapped, I'm all better now but I don't believe in abusing anyone trying to help you. Some of these people are just out of order!!!! I would never abuse someone one only there for your benefit. I feel sorry for those security guards, spitting is so disgusting, send him to a secure unit.
I wish they had some good security team like this in Canada as I have seen what security does to some patients and its aweful,
I was at A and E last week - it was packed out and there was 4 police officers there !!
Absolutely appalling
The staff are trying to help
It’s sad
How do you kmow? Often they aren't. They're just trying to get rid of them. Even if the behaviour is caused by sepsis. Brain injury. Worsening dementia. And so much more
@@codybrown1211Medical personnel can tell the difference between medical emergency that alters consciousness and being straight up rude, threatening and entitled.
We need this kind of security in the US!
Really? I was pacing an empty ER in the US once and had a security guard try to order me to sit down but you think security in the US doesn't have things under control? Sure...
@@jayblackshire Maybe you gave off an extra broody and dangerous vibe? 😂 Or you made the guard nervous with all that pacing in a moment they could have enjoyed some actual peace and quiet? Would be understandable if they wanted you to stop in that case. :)
@@Kirmeins If a scrawny guy in a hospital gown with a blanket makes security feel unsafe, they need to reassess their line of work lmao.
The staff came flying out to defend me luckily. They told him to get the fuck away from me and to let me do my pacing to my hearts content. He claimed that his boss saw me on the cameras and sent down word to make me sit down because it looked like I was up to something.
I was. I was trying to self-regulate my PTSD. The same damn condition that had me walk 2 miles barefoot to that ER seeking assistance because I'd had a wicked nasty flashback and I was a risk to myself and others, but it's so ingrained in me that I get to a hospital under those conditions that I walked right in to the nearest emerg half disassociated and just recited my name and conditions to the receptionist three times before I realized that she was starring at my arm because it was covered in blood (that I still don't know what happened to).
I don't know where this is filmed It probably mentioned it in the video and I missed it. But I am astonished by how empty that A&E waiting room is? It literally shocked me. Whee I live no matter what time of the day you go it is absolutely jam packed with 6 to 8 hours waiting time for a triage with a nurse and then another 2 - 3 hours after that to see a doctor . During lockdown I went and a young man had suffered a heart attack he was unconscious in his friends passenger seat and the friend was screaming for a nurse or doctor to come and help him. I was astounded that nurses casually sauntered past the situation not doing anything after 40 minutes some medical professionals came out and started saying mockingly is he actually unconscious or just pretending. It was an hour before they got him out the car, not sure what happened to him. fast forward a few months I was back in again the place was packed and long waiting times and some old guy died in the waiting room and despite several women reporting it to the reception area he was left there for ages
The question, is why are people ending up with these mental health problems to start with. In the community people are getting failed so often at every stage of life. Poor education, poor housing, homelessness.. not enough people are tackling these injustices , the result is broken, mentally unstable, angry and violent people. It's a build up of decades of neglect.
And a lot pretend they have mental health issues just to get bigger benefits.
NEVER say that its been calm. Rule 1 of the A&E
The major problem seems to be these frequent flyers who are homeless, on drugs or alcohol, and have mental issues. They abuse resources and always win with rides and whatever they can get for free. They keep coming back and repeating the same abuse.
It's because there's no other resources for these people after mass closures of mental hospitals.
0:51 Is that White Dee from the hit TV show, Benefits Street?
It sounds just like her. I thought the exact same thing. Strange how her face is blurred
Some times what u see on video is not what u always see when you are in a mental hoisiptal some times the staff makes fun of ppl that should not be allowed
re MH patients, glad to see the insight that uniforms could scare people. really wish there were more women to deal with female patients though, as being manhandled by male security can be so retraumatising.
I agree, my daughter has complex mental health needs, and males in uniform terrify her due to a previous trauma, and she goes straight into fight or flight. She really can't help it. The issue I have found is that most hospitals don't know how to deal with mental health patients. However in times of crisis, there is nowhere else for them to go 🥺
@@velvetdip the other issue is leaving MH patients unattended in A&E so long that they eventually kick off or try to leave, and then they set security on them. that’s down to pressures on an overwhelmed system needing to triage according to their depleted resources, but the effect is awful. x
@IsaLinaLuna Absolutely this. It's happened to my daughter numerous times, and it's just heartbreaking to witness x
I wonder what had happened to Dean for him to behave that way?
When will more hospitals especially here in the south get security like this , look at how much of a difference it makes