Hypermiling Roadtrip: NYC and Back with One Tank of Gas
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The most impressive part about all of this isn't the efficiency. The most impressive part is that you made it from Virginia to NYC and back with no plates, no mirror, a fairly conspicuous car, and did not get pulled over once.
They had a temp tag taped onto the hatch window.
Also, some states only require "one mirror that can see directly behind the car for several hundred feet". PA for example, I drove my aero-modded first-gen Legacy around there for years without mirrors and had no issue. (I put the mirrors back on if I had cargo blocking my view out the windows.)
Could not be more proud that my S2000 was made in the same factory as a Honda Insight.
Weird flex but okay
The funniest part of all of that is that the insight has the same steering wheel as the s2k hahaha
I want one because the gauges and wheel would match my S2k haha.
Man my Lamborghini was made on the same planet as the Honda Insight.
What ?
Why ?
🤣
"It's downhill from here. We're going South."
A man of science.
🧠
🧠
I broke my compass so it is always going south, fuel economy has been unbelievable ever since
Got that Treebeard mindset
What killed the results, was having a two people in the car. Thats like 165 extra pounds
It has very little effect. The driving habits probably did it in
@@westellmodel it's almost a 10% increase in that car
I have been searching for this comment, 2 guys and luggage.
With these guys and the luggage it’s more like 300lbs more probably
I mean sure but you're still moving 2 people instead of 1 + 1 in another car...
We are happy to sponsor this one. Nothing like a G&G road trip! A fun video with a green theme. That intimate over/ under driver switch lol.
Couldn't have made it without you guys! So fun!
Thanks for sponsoring G&G!
we need you guys in the UK!! xD
@@GearsandGasoline Hello G&G you guys are the coolest
Does that mean that autotempest paid for the entire car? Do they get to keep it after?
No external mirrors, and you didn't get pulled by a cop? Now that's the really impressive part of this video.
dont some cars have cameras instead?
@@ericflores4924 No. US law requires at least one external mirror.
And no rear plate!
@@0ttoman it's in the rear window.
@@ericflores4924 Federal law requires two mirrors, one of which must be a driver's side. It doesn't have to be external, but does have to be driver's side.
I can't help but think that an insight would be a fantastic platform for some kind of performance mods. Low drag, *super* lightweight. This things is lighter than a freakin mirage!
Check out the Insight engine swap done by LHT. They swapped a K-series engine, turbocharged it and added all-wheel drive... They'll even build you one if you provide an Insight. Top notch work.
I'm thinking electric supercharger... 144v battery, lots of juice available, 1L engine, not too much air required, could be a good application.
@@Kiloechonovember1 yeah I was about to mention that myself think they did an awd one as well
Rotary is what I was thinking
How about a lawnmower engine?
I love that they did everything they could think of to reduce drag yet they added cameras to the outside
And drove around with the windows down!
And luggage!
When they said 20 years old i was thinking 90's than they said 2000 something damn i'm getting old
Shhhhhh! Dont remind me 😐
Yeahh lol
True
At least it was of legal age to buy a beer
Yup
Girls: My Boyfriend is probably cheating on me.
Me and the boys: 14:05
14:17 nice
@@mattsee45 nice
Nice
Nice
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
Ben: "first tick was like 200 miles worth" "the last tick was like 20 miles worth"
**Cut to Ben literally filling up the fuel filling neck** 9:33
I have a first-gen Insight, and even without overflowing the filler neck, the first few bars of the gas gauge always take notably longer to disappear than they should.
It's fine though, it's the last few bars that you really need the accuracy, and it's always consistent. The indicated fuel economy is also highly consistent, reliably reads about 1.5% high.
"Gas gauge says our MPG is way off" "Oh wow our driving range ended up being exact match to our MPG"
The guage was also only off because they overfilled it
“This isn’t the first time i’ve done this in a car before...” “oh really?” 😂
Yeah, tall Ben is definitely still a virgin. 😂
congrats, you got the joke!
In 2004, I drove my stock 2000 Insight manual from Boulder, Colorado to Chicago, over 1,000 miles, on 8.5 gallons of gas. I had downgrade elevation and tailwinds on my side, but I did it. It was amazing to do such a long road trip across two days without stopping for gas. That was my claim to fame in that car.
I smell cap
that is 117 mpg, damn
I don't believe you
Maybe cap; however, Boulder is over 5000 ft above see level. Rolling down hill doesn’t take much.
I have an ioniq and I get about 67 mpg around town and about 65 on the highway, I feel like from the springs to Tennessee I’d only actually have to fill up once as my average range with electric and fuel is about 690-700 miles on every fill up on 87 grade fuel.
3:26 "and also your rear wheels aren't turning"
Well that's going to increase drag significantly
Missing a part of the underbody that deflects air around the front tires, makes a big difference. Full throttle driving like a jerk and you can get the mpg down around 45ish
Your video editing guy needs a pay raise holy crap
Yeah, very dope.
I believe that both Ben’s do a lot of the editing themselves. Saw it on one of their videos titled “who is gears and gasoline” 2020. Something like that
They record and edit everything themselves, thats why they the goats!!!
yeah they're previous video students, they have tons of equipment and knowledge. their editing is crazy. I think they showed it on their first roadtrip series.
Plot twist: you're the video editor
I'm an automotive engineer for Honda. I wanted to point out that the tape in the hood added back the drag if not more that you removed from taking the wipers out. Every time a tiny piece of tape moves, it creates a huge vacuum towards the back slowing you down. See if you can get a wind tunnel to test tape positions for better efficiency. Last, the mirrors actually lowered the coefficient, by taking them off you guys added some more drag back. Great try guys 👍.
Just wondering, how did removing the mirrors add back drag?
@@al1g8r94 the engineers take for account the vortex created by the different parts of the car, like the mirrors, wipers, badges, etc. That's why the rear wheel is covered to compensate for the vortex created in the front. Removing them, causes the air to distort differently than expected before it reaches the back. Also, tape adds surfaces that makes the wind react in a manner it was not expected, slowing the car down.
They should have just claybarred and waxed the car instead of messing with some of the tape
I knew something was not right with this trick but I was not finding the logical explanation behind it. Surely everything that is on that car is a whole that helps and makes sence👍
And this guy was driving 76mph, no way that’s the most efficient speed
Nice work guys!
723 miles on 11.1 gallons in my Kia Niro is my personal record. Just inside of 65mpg overall.
Nice! That's quite good for a car that size.
I absolutely love this video. It shows how much appreciation you guys have for any well engineered automotive venture. Its quite impressive to get those kinds of mpgs, where depending on the platform, making a lot of HP isnt that impressive anymore.
TALL BEN'S HAIR IS SO GOOD NOW
Frosted tips
Keisuke takahashi no more.
Don’t remind me I am 25 no facing hair loss lol
Video is old...
Yea it looks cool
cant wait for the k-swap insight
Rotary swap 🤷♂️
I think bisimoto did that already
@@TheDking666 Bisimoto’s insight was a F22 SOHC. It was LHT Performance that did the K-sight.
Or LS Swapped Insight
Hypermiling at nearly 80 mph? Come on, guys.
Seriously
More mph than hp lmao.
They are idiots. The car won’t even be able to use lean burn at that speed. I forget the cutoff, but I believe it was in the 60’s.
50-55 mph maybe...not at the speeds they were running. Heck i got 45 mpg in a 87 golf driving from philly to Atlanta
Was so angry that they went through so much effort to lighten the car, be aerodynamic, make it useless as a daily driver, but then throw that all away with speed.
I am so glad you guys fully respected this car, this shows that you guys are true car anthusiasts.
I like how they showed so much love and respect for this car
Yeah, too many RUclipsrs shit on cars that aren't supercars just for the sake of it.
Same, I got one of the new 2020 models. It only gets 57 miles city which is pretty good. I spend no money on gas since all my driving is city, also I put a 10in sub in the back to pass the time getting from place to place
insight is based on the CRX, which is a legendary old tuner car. Just because it's efficient doesn't mean it's not cool!
I drove a 2nd gen Insight for a few weeks, and it was the most stressful thing, because I was treating the MPG gauge as a challenge.
that’s me in my civic
@@pineLmc me in my tdi
Like they said, you could ignore the MPG meter and still get stellar efficiency. I would still try to learn efficient habits like cruising at around 60-70.
That’s me on my 2010 Honda Insight 😅😂
I did that for the first month of owning my 2011 Insight, and then I basically settled for having the cruise control do as much as possible. I tend to just follow (at a safe distance) behind lorries on the motorway and it's a bit of fiddling with speeds in the city and on rural roads, but in the end I get about 4.3L/100km and I'm fine with that. I use the heated seats and climate control like a normal person, so I'm sure I could squeeze out that bit more, but I can't be bothered.
These two are destined to be legendary.
21:04 why is he doing 76mph? That’s not hypermiling come on man
Coasting down a steep hill?
I owned an Insight for 12 years, and averaged 75 mpg. Once you learn how to best use the lean burn mode, it’s easy to cruise along at 100+ mpg on the highway. I’ve since gone full EV, but still miss that little car.
Which EV do you own?
One good smack from a delivery van or Suburban when you are in a miniature car and all your gas savings goes out in medical bills .
@@BeefT-Sq this is not really a good argument, you can get hit in any kind of car lol
@amelia the protogen these are tin cans compared to cars nowadays
@@BeefT-Sq Piss poor arguement
Be honest Ben, when is it getting K swapped and turned into a race car?
Wonder what kinda gas mileage that would get 🤔 probably high 30s low 40s
@@davidf2392 I think Hasport reported 55mpg in theirs before they added a turbo and other go-fast bits.
Or they could build the factory engine
@@whatsyourname5166 problem with that is that they'd need to build everything bespoke. It's a cool idea, but nobody makes parts to upgrade the 1.0l 3-cylinder.
@@musewolfman you have just spark my imagination. An Insight with the 3 cyl from the GR Yaris 😂
if he left him there at the pit stop i was gonna laugh. why shed 1 pound when you can shed 126 pounds lol
Great video, glad to see the Insight getting some appreciation! I have a 2006 manual Insight with 265K on the odo... fantastic car and very much worth the quirks and the maintenance. Keep practicing with that hypermiling thing... you can absolutely get into the mid to high 70s MPG on a stock manual first gen if you learn all the tricks and take it easy!
Couple things that weren't mentioned in this video that really help with fuel economy in your Insight: air your tires up to maximum sidewall pressure, it makes a surprisingly big difference in MPG on these cars by further lowering rolling resistance. Also, use lower road speeds (try to stay under 60 MPH) and focus on driving with load (give it less throttle on uphills/more on downhills) to keep in lean burn longer and more frequently. A wideband air-fuel gauge will let you see when you're in lean burn and how far into it you are (or get an OBDC&C for lots more Insight-specific data).
Also a couple maintenance things you could do: you were missing some panels under the front bumper that weren't replaced by the Killer3Cyl panel (there should be one in front of each wheel, these are pretty important for aero). It's also worth learning more about your IMA battery and checking up on its health, as these had very rudimentary battery management systems and can go out of balance easily and lose performance even if they still appear to function. For someone who's never driven an Insight before it could be hard to tell this is the case, since you've only ever driven it with the battery in its current condition.
There are lots more tips on the Insight Central forums and the community there is extremely helpful- check it out if you haven't already, it is a treasure trove of information.
"You wanna go over, or under?"
"You go over ..I'm kind of..."
looool
I got to this video quicker than the Honda got to 60
Insight owner. Can confirm.
@@stitch2k1 it does 60? 😂
@@thatcopenguy I've done 90mph in it. It should do 100.
@@stitch2k1 They go 112 flat out, speed limiter kicks in.
You had plenty of time then haha
Had an insight for a few years and loved that car more than any other. Handled like a go-kart, never needed gas and was surprisingly good in the snow. I only got rid of it because I couldn't find someone to work on it other than the dealership. I still regret it. Found a mechanic that loves them and enjoys working on them not a few weeks after selling it. I've tried to find another for a price I can afford and haven't had any luck. Man, I miss that damn car!!!
Im in the island Jamaica, and i really appreciate the work you guys do for our entertainment.....you're like TOP GEAR reloaded hahha. Seriously thou, please keep on keeping on....love the chemistry, the scenery, the cinematography...top class production!!!
Just like the EK Civics, this video is going to inflate the Insight market prices. Always great to see you guys on my Saturday mornings!
It's ridiculous, because I want one now... dear God, FB marketplace, here I come.
Have these videos really had that much of an effect on EK prices?
@@emilkozak4012 no every car is expensive rn just because the market right now & covid.
@@emilkozak4012 No, but you see these comments every time when a big-ish youtube channel buys a new car.
I have one listed on offer up, in Houston. It's a 2004, engine/trans in good condition, although the hybrid battery needs reconditioning.
they didn't clean the ERG plate. im an insight owner, and cleaning the EGR plate made a huge difference in how efficient the car drives. still, 65mpg with 2 guys and luggage in the trunk is very impressive
EASSSILLY the best. You guys could of been over each other soooo long ago, but that dynamic couldn’t exist or recreate itself. 🤣❤️
Wow, this video was very good, I didn't even realize I spent 30 mins watching till the end.
3.8l/100km is bloody good economy. Awesome video guys!
My lupo vw 3L uses 3L/100km at 140km/t
i can do that with 1.9SDI
Mine is at 490000km still going like new
For a car that slippery and stripped down 3.8l is actually pretty bad.
Thx
"We're saving the planet" while being filmed in a big ass Pick up truck hahahaha
12:15 is a real Bro moment
Fantastic car. Also would like to point out the outstanding production quality. This channel is really something. Glad I found it.
Loved this. Not only because it's cool, but obviously because of your story telling and editing and... Most of all, because you two are working together on a car and road tripping together for a change!! Loved it!
I'm surprised you guys didn't do 55 the entire way? Towards the end the speedo literally read 76 or something
Yea I caught that too... but also some cars get better mileage on some higher speeds
@@Vandallolwut The best mileage is accomplished, for the most part, by achieving the highest speed at the lowest RPM.
And in the case of a manual, (and some automatics) that is accomplished by holding the lowest, but most maintainable, speed at the highest gear.
My '97 Camry's best, on it's automatic 4 speed, is around 40-45 mph. I can manaage around 30mpg holding that speed on flat ground.
Which i think is pretty damn good for an old, slightly worn, cast iron engine.
I have a 2001 Insight, on a long trip 60 mph seems to give the best MPG. When I drove slower, the engine bogs down too much in 5th gear and the mpg suffers. So if they were to go 50mpg to 65mpg using, pulse and glide when they can’t draft; then you need to get right up on the truck to draft. You are helping his mpg as well. They could have easily broken 100mpg on the whole trip. Just traveling at 60mpg with no drafting they could have done 80mpg. (They should have finished tuning up the engine and battery). Fuel injector cleaner and re-balancing the cells (which is really easy). Easier than changing the oil or spark plugs.
Also, once the IMA battery is over 75%, you can use the AC going down hill and stay comfortable while going over 100 mpg. However, they did have the fuel cell; so they HAD to run out of gas to use it. So I imagine there is some footage where they were getting too high of an MPG and figured they had to drive faster and more inefficiently to make sure they ran out of gas. BTW, when accelerating you WANT to use the assist. As long as you don’t go over 3/4 throttle. In fact, my best mileage of over 800 miles on 9 gallons of gas; I would accelerate and decelerate using the IMA. If you don’t use the assist, you get WORSE mileage!
They also could've made things much easier by only having one person in the car and carrying extra luggage in the camera car from the start. I think it's pretty clear they didn't actually want to succeed.
I love this. Great work as always guys.
Extremely relevant video today in March 2022
Man I wonder what kind of snacks G&G packed for a one-tank trip to NYC.
oh
This has given me new insights on fuel economy
I see what you did there 😀
Pun intended
12:23 "That is not the navigational stalk"
couldn't resist. I was rewatching this scene from MIB 2
Watched one of your videos and I’m already loving this channel!
12:24 He was about to say " I'm more of a bottom" and stopped lmao
just about to say that lmfaooo
Caught that too.
Always loved the insight dash as it is literally an eco version of the s2000 dash.
And it has a non leather wrapped s2000 steering wheel
I saw that and got flash backs.
This is the car that prompted me to start a conversation with my now wife! Thanks 2005 Honda Insight!
I will forever love hybrids. In August 2022, me and my best man rented a 2021 Prius and drove it to Las Vegas from Cleveland Ohio. While in Vegas we drove to Death Valley and back and all around the city. Then drove home. When it was all over, we spent 260 bucks in gas. And gas wasn’t cheap either.
I used one of these to commute 117 miles one way for 5 months and every journey was this thrilling.
240 miles is right around the longest I've ever traveled by car in a single day lol, obviously not living in the US of A
@@brreeaad wtf, i just drove 700km yesterday and I live in Sweden, where do you live?
@@alexstromberg7696 Sweden as well, longest trip in a day was from my city to Stockholm in the morning and back in the evening. Any longer than that and I go by train
@@brreeaad går väl de med. Körde 70mil för att hämta en huv
Loved the insight facts and trivia. Pls keep that on future roadtrips but put it more to the top or bottom of the screen so we can see more of the drone shots :)
I had one of these for a few years. Definitely got a lot of comments and questions about it. I did like some of the detail that you all included, especially the spark plugs and tires, not many people know those details or realize the hit on efficiency that they can make. The car more than paid for itself, I was doing multi state road trips every few weeks with it. (My wife was living about 600 miles away at the time....or about one tank.
My first car was an Insight, it was driven to high school and back and to nearby friends houses pretty much exclusively. I remember filling it up about once every 2 months and that made all the jokes about it worth it
I love how they're strategizing even before they leave the driveway
NGL, they had us in the first half. Credit goes to the snack box.
Absolutely phenomenal video guys!
Never seen your channel before, it’s so well produced this is a TV show. 10/10 immediate subscribe
Them: Remove everything from the inside and some parts from the outside to make the car lighter
Them also: processed to put a luggage, camera equipment and two adults inside
Me: 👁👄👁
Well yeah, its to offset the weight, If they kept all that stuff in it would be even heavier.
@@degenerateweeb8383 a camera car is following them🙄
@@anishdynamo Yeah but you'd have to make stops to get the luggage. Which would consume more fuel.
@@degenerateweeb8383 wouldn’t you stop to get to the luggage either way
@@Thepathyouseek Yeah looking back that response isn't exactly solid. A better reason would be that they don't want to cheat outright. Like only if they have to.
15:02 Ben contemplating if he should leave Asian Ben and go by himself and save at least 160 lbs weight reduction
Yeah, they took the mirror out but still kept a passenger....weird choice!
Lmao
Should have sent second person in the camera car and talk by radio.
Then again, this just makes the Insight look even more badass.
The seats are actually incredibly heavy as well. Nearly 40lbs, IIRC.
"And we're going downhill now, going south." heh
Great video. Great times.
Anyone else shout out in hype when they revealed the snack box?? 😂
lmao i was finished! i burst out laughing , honestly did not see that coming (bamboozled! and well played guys !!)
Great reveal. But on a serious note, it probably added 50 lbs to the car.
I tasted imaginary Doritos on that part…
This is the video we didn't know we needed.. Amazing.
left a comment on your "cars won't make you happy" video a few days ago about owning this car. imagine my surprise when i came across this video haha the early insight was a great little car. i miss it often, but i always smile whenever i see another on the road :)
12:38 that was WAYYYY to smooth haha
If this couple decides to break up, I swear love is dead. Awesome video as always!
They are a couple?
You guys have some of the best RUclips quality especially for a automotive channel I love you guys you never disappoint
I still have a road and track magazine featuring this, but was rated for 78mpg. It's definatly an amazing car. I love my civic thou, need the fast acceleration sometimes to avoid crashes. Good video
198k on mine , brother has 3 more plus parts .... an amazing creature that stands the test of time !
I'll just leave this here:
We went on a hypermiling trip too, with my Golf Mk6 with 200hp and reached a mileage of 75mpg.
I miss my Golf, such an awesome car it was!
Just out of curiosity, was that US gallons or UK gallons? I've seen that trip people up a lot.
@@JETZcorp I don't know anymore, i converted it as i'm using liters per 100km
@@JETZcorp But if you're interested, during the Hypermiling Trip, we were averaging a consumption of 3,3L/100km
@@Kerbhunter_Alex Wow, that is impressive. Comes out to 71mpg US or 85 UK. I have to assume it's a TDI?
For reference, in my Insight I averaged about 68 (US) on the highway, and my 1-way record was 86. In your units that's 3.5 and 2.75 respectively. The larger number had a very healthy tailwind.
I highly doubt it
That "low speed torque though" 😂🤣
It looked like a lot of the video you guys were going 70+. Had you cruised around 50 you'd have gotten a lot further.
One of the most entertaining videos I have watched in ages!! You guys are too funny oh and btw, the dark hair guy with the got-ee is one cute dude! Just adorable!
How about insight vs prius cross country road trip?
I'd watch that.
Efficiency battle would be fun. Who can make it further before being stranded.
My money is on insight by FARRRR
Absolutely pointless. Both city cars.
2000 Insight vs 2001 Prius...
Great video! Dedicated Insight'er myself. Best tank for me has been 96MPG with some modding and dedicated driving (without the electric assist enabled, too).
Love this video much love from VA
For a few years I had an '03 Civic Hybrid, not as thrifty as the Insight but with four seats a lot more practical...and that thing went well over 750 miles on a single tank. On the Blue Ridge Parkway, it just got better and better, the perfect mesh of gearing, power and terrain.
Fantastic vid gents! I love the Gen 1 Insight. It's going to be a collectible in the future for sure. I've got a Gen 3 Insight as a daily and while it is almost double the weight of the Gen 1, it's got modern luxuries, safety tech, and I can still hit 67 mpg in the city. The spirit of the Insight lives on!
it would be impressive to see you guys make the insight a race car
Boosted k series for sure!
Insight Lucky Dog car?
This was even more fun to watch in 2x.
I couldn't stop looking at that box the whole video, that's funny
I’ve been commenting asking for a hypermiling road trip and they listened :))))) life is good
this is without a question my fav. car channel now. The videos you guys put out are just so good. Mad respect from germany, keep it up guys :)
I love how they have to get in the doors like the dukes of Hazzard but it's a friggin insight
These videos are goated
In cycling the mantra is ‘aero is everything’. Wind tunnel testing has proved that nothing else really matters.
weight matters
@@MJ-uk6lu it matters for decel and acceleration but not once you are set at your cruising speed
@@tinatpasselepoivre weight is important for drag coefficient
@@MJ-uk6lu execpt it doesn't enter in either the Cx or sCx calculus ?
@@tinatpasselepoivre It reduces rolling resistance and transmission losses.
Major Top Gear challenge vibes, so many funny moments
Awesome episode. This one is for the nerds 🤓
Love that Honda Insight
I've seen one of these in person, it's clearly a hyper miller, but it's ALSO kei car sized so it's actually potentially great for downtown driving
I loved the efficiency of the insight when I was in high school and even wrote my senior research paper on it. Do you guys remember the mpg insight battle that car magazines wrote about in the early 2000s? The winner ended up renting a large suv with side opening doors. they would literally make the insight drive up to the back bumper of the suv while the doors were open. They'd only move apart when a cop car was spotted so they wouldn't get a ticket. Got over 100mpg and beat everyone else by about 30 mpg.
btw, did you ever check the battery age and how well it holds the charge?
Proving the Honda could make the whole trip on the stock tank alone would have been nice but proving you've got the integrity to not tamper with the test by gassing up off camera, that's so much cooler. Nicely done boys, were proud of you.
Too bad they've not got the integrity to do the challenge properly by opening the windows, messing with the drag, accelerating fast, going too fast etc etc.
I love the way the insight looks. Would love to put a B series in it for gen III CRX vibes