The Qadistu Boss Fight - Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- The Qadistu Boss Fight in Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance
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18:32 screaming in lowercase
The Dazai betrayal is extra harsh here. Like they didn't feel like just acquaintances in this story.
So Koshimizu is a Proto-Fiend and not the actual Tsukuyomi?
This definitely adds context to his story arc in the original as the Amatsukami are actually gone after the Tokyo incident.
In the original, Dazai and Abidel’s whole goal seemed just a little bit understandable. Even when the MC allows the myriad gods to gain their Knowledge, they’re disheartened by the conflict the world experiences, thus the Law ending is just as valid as the Chaos. Hell, even in the original, Dazai at least tried to explain his POV. Now it’s just straight up evil because Dazai actively screws over his friends-actual friends this time-and is cruel for the sake of being cruel. I personally enjoy it, but man, it felt like a total gut punch.
To anyone who, like me, struggled with this fight, here’s a trick I learnt in my 4th, and successful attempt. Before they go for the Quidistu entropy skill get one member low on hp. Then when they charge, defeat them, and when Naamah goes for it the skill will fail and their turn will end
You deadass helped me understand how to beat this boss fight thanks man 🙏
good to hear!! I thought my video wouldnt help much since I kinda cheesed them with onyankopon
@@FazPersona I couldn't make the exact team you had since I was lvl 47, so I ended up making a knock off version using Muu Shuwuu, Hayataro, and Idun which still worked just fine lol
Ahhh that’s good to hear🙏
@FazPersona I kind of wished I sided with onyankopon instead of anansi when I got to this boss 😭
At first,there was Tiamat,and then came the Horned God that defeated Tiamat,after the war,the throne was usurped by the descendants of that Horned God.
Personal Thoughts:
1.According to Enuma Elish,Tiamat gave birth to a lot of gods with Apsu. I wonder if Apsu existed in this continuity.
2.From my point of view,it seemed that this serpent/dragon slaying event might predate other “Kings” ? Earlier than YHVH,earlier than Baal,even earlier than Ra ?
3. So far,we only know 3 gods that once were “Kings”. Ra,Baal,and YHVH. While Baal and YHVH might fit in the Horned God archetype,as Baal mentioned “The Lineage of Bull God” in his own subquest,YHVH/Yahweh on the other hand,was believed by some scholars that he was once a storm and war deity when Hebrews were still polytheistic. Some even speculated that Yahweh might be portrayed as a bovine god at that time. However,is Ra also considered “Descendants of Horned God” according to Lilith’s statement ? Ra’s symbol was mainly eagle/falcon,but he too had a dragon/slaying myth in which he had to battle and conquer Apep/Apophis every night,and if we are talking about Amun-Ra,Amun,the god that identified with Ra,used ram-headed Sphinx (Criosphinx) as his symbol,and that Amun-Ra was later identified with Zeus,who was classified as a bull god/horned god in this continuity.
The god was probably Marduk, with of the myth associated was the slaying of Tiamat.
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It's possible.
If you talk to the demon Thoth at Bethel Japan after this fight he talks about how Marduk was the original horned God.
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Thoth confirms it's actually Marduk
Just waiting for a skill video to find out how many new magic skills Nahobino gets.
coming in 2 hours! he has 7 new skills
Are you uploading alot today? I'm here for it and any build advice is murakumo still the go or something else
yes and yes!
I was expecting more of the qadistu
I swear the Qaditsu were made after the devs got done watching FF7 advant children and thought they could do it better.
And they did it, the only inferior thing is that they are less hot than Sephiroth
@@johnny8363
LMAO
Win the fight.
Lose in the cutscene.
My favorite.
(Was that a haiku?)🤔
You were somewhat close. Haikus have a 5-7-5 syllable structure. Yours had a 3-5-3 syllable structure. I do agree that they could have done something better than the win the fight, lose in the cutscene.
@@SuperDanMan11100 I know. I used to write haikus into my training plans when I was in the Navy. I got really bored at sea. So bored, one time I decided to live like I was left handed for three weeks.
I need new hobbies.
Win the fight for good.
Lose sorely in the cutscene.
My favorite thing
You're welcome
@@ArakishiTokugawa I've got no sarcastic remarks. That's just beautiful. Good work.
unlocking the four for fusion anyway even though you didn't really beat them was the cherry on top
thank you bro! this boss is on my ass right now 😭😭
wow i didnt expect qadistu fusion😮
Faz, please tell me, can we fuse them in the game? I need them in the party for their.... good stats
Yes they can be fused
check the end of the video :)
Yes, you can fused them.
Naamah = Glasya-Labolas (You need Dormarth, Anzu and Macabre to gets Glasya-Labolas) + Succubus + Dominion
Eisheth = Mitra + Loki + Forneus
Agrat = Seth + Efreet + Queen Medb
Lilith = Cherub + Cybele + Lamia + Lilim
Nahobino type Tsukuyomi. Nice
I curious about the new endings in the Vengeance route, are they considered to be Law and Chaos ? Or it's going to be like IV Apocalypse where they are just 2 different versions of Neutral
Probably 3 instead of 4 in the Creation Route since that additional ending is alternate take on the neutral ending
They’re law and chaos
Man this fight was so awesome, VERY difficult but still awesome
Took me 40 minutes to beat because I didn’t know only Lilith had to go down. Now I feel extra good about doing it the harder way😂
@@tylerhurst1046 it's actually a good idea to kill naamah first because of her stupid charm ability also she weal to the most basic thing fists.
@@DamonAkuma92 dekaja was actually why I made it my mission to get rid of her first. Made Idun’s setup useless and burnt through a ton of her mp, so she had to be the first one to go
Hold up, did they remove knowledge of tools miracle?
No, they put it in one of the Abscesses in Shinjuku instead of the second area.
23:32
The core?
I still don't get Dazai's heel turn. It was random in the original and it's just as random in Vengeance!
He was just acting goofy and flopping his legs around in the scene with Mastema, and now he's a mustache-twirling villain! It's complete tonal whiplash!
His heel turn here is being mastema manipulated dazai with his "advice"
obligatory atlus "we need to make the abrahamic side look bad" asspool when they've done it much better in the past with better buildup and reasoning.
mastema: *typical megalomaniac evengalist preaching*
dazai: "wow, guess i'm a radicalist now. thank you, dubious guy who just turned me to salt moments ago!"
It's a SMT tradition. There is always that 1 friend who turns into a lawful angel cuck just because.
The law side tends to be "just return to the status quo of a peaceful world." So to make it not the obvious best choice, the people who represent the law route tend to be aholes.
Japanese culture is very suspicious of any religion that overwrites the existing japanese cultural code of conduct. Doubly so when such a religion proselytizes and boldly says their way is the objectively correct way. The culture of secular polite groupism is their norm, and Japanese society doesn't look favorably on people with different beliefs from the Japanese norm. Even today, Japanese Christians are viewed as weirdos and pariahs in japanese society.
Sheesh Dazai still is lame. I really was hoping he wouldn't be this time around.
But now you can blame Maztema for it lol instead of being randomly creepy out of nowhere. Guy tempted him with power and his usual silver tongue.
This fight kicked my ass because I thought you had to kill all of them. Had I known it was only Lilith that had to get taken down, I would have approached this wayyy differently💀😭
Dear god, please transfer all of Ryuji's pain to Ichiro Dazai
Fem-boy to Fem-man
Does anyone know how you go about fusing onyankopon
You unlock him after doing either then Anansi or Onyankopon quest in Shinjuku
Clear two side quests with Onyakopon and Anansi. In Shinjuku you have alignment choice, for who you side. Law route is Onyakopon, when you must beat Anansi, Chaos route is Anansi, when you must beat Onyakopon. Similar side quest with Kresnik and Kudlak (Kresnik is Law pick, Kudlak is Chaos). Onyakopon and Kresnik are far better demons than Anansi and Kudlak, so i recommend Law route for both side quests.
this fight is really difficult lol
Just kill in first turn Agrat, and start spamming Tetrakarn. If Lilith summon again Agrat, repeat this process. Don't kill Eisheth this is important, focus on Lilith and Agrat.
I was upset when yuzuru was mudered by abdiel and dazai, I actually liked his character a lot in the canon of vengeance
I don't get what the hydra looking demon is at all.
I beat them in hard and they were EXTRA HARD had to use all my somas. I was not prepared so had to cheese lilith slowly and baiting with tetrakarn
Yeah, you need cheese this fight with Tetrakarn. First kill ASAP Agrat, then spam tetrakarn (second turn is always Eisheth who have only physical moves). Without that strategy this battle is long and hard.
... what's the point of this boss fight if you just lose via cutscene anyway?
14:12 what happened here? lmao
So in the vengeance, aogami death? Please tell me
Note : i am the person who dont care about spoiler, so is no effect for me, please tell me XD
Thanks to Tao, the young man escaped being sacrificed to revive Tiamat. Aogami perished.
SPOILERS
yes he dies, but he does come back and nahobino's form will be back as well for the last 2 bosses
visuals aside this fight is one of my least favorite in the series.