My thanks also to Rick Beato for sharing his insight on Bach and pointing us to this video to expand upon it more and to not feel diminished in the slightest way by another's wonderful exposition. Bravo
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I have loved Bach all my adult life, and I had no idea how much Bach suffered during his life. I deeply appreciate this video which has given me a deeper appreciation for how Bach did not let his life of sadness stop his "passionate life". Thanks to this portrayal, I know will appreciate Bach's music all the more. And thank you Rick Beato for recommending this documentary.
this was fantastic. I was recommended this documentary through Rick Beato's channel. And this really inspired me about Bach and the classical music period. Thank you
I really hate to be pedantic, but….Bach composed in the Baroque period, but his music falls within the “classical” music designation as decided upon by recording companies long before they were aware of historical periods in the development of Western music. Just to provide context, there is the Renaissance (1400s-1500s), the Baroque (about 1600-1750), the Classical (roughly 1730-1820), the Romantic (roughly 1798 into the 20th century), and modern (early 20th century until today) periods of music, _all of which_ are now called “classical music” so that record companies knew how to market it to the buying public. Don’t you hate it when ignorant people define culture, lol??
00:00 Opening chorus from St Matthew Passion BWV 244 00:38 Opening chorus from St John Passion BWV 245 2:16 First mov. - Brandenburg Concerto n. 3 BWV 1048 3:40 Chorus Christus, Der Ist Mein Leben BWV 95 4:40 Aria Hebt Euer Haupt Empor BWV 70 5:10 Largo - Concerto for 4 Harpsichords BWV 1065 7:09 Chorus "Wenn es meines Gottes Wille" BWV 161 10:58 Chorus Christ Unser Herr Zum Jordan Kam BWV 7 12:06 Aria Des Vaters Stimme Liess Sich Hören BWV 7 12:38 Chorus Wachet, betet, betet, wachet ! bwv 70 13:36 Gigue - Cello suite BWV 1007 15:04 Pachelbel, Toccata e-minor 16:12 Johann Christoph Bach, Es ist nun aus mit meinem Leben 17:48 Sonatina, Actus tragicus BWV 106 20:17 Aria Wenn Kömmt Der Tag BWV 70 23:37 Chorus Christus, Der Ist Mein Leben BWV 95 26:39 Aria Nimm Mich Dir Zu Eigen Hin BWV 65 27:55 Chorus Gott ist mein König, BWV 71 29:14 Aria Wenn Kömmt Der Tag BWV 70 32:06 Allegro (3 mov.) - Brandenburg Concerto n. 1 BWV 1046 51:00 Allegro (3 mov.) - Brandenburg Concerto n. 3 BWV 1048 53:12 Aria Gebt Mir Meinen Jesum Wieder from St Matthew Passion BWV 244 57:40 Opening chorus from St John Passion BWV 245 1:02:07 Chorus Ruht Wohl, Ihr Heiligen Gebeine from St John Passion BWV 245 1:06:04 Opening chorus from St Matthew Passion BWV 244 1:15:20 Allegro (3 mov.) - Brandenburg Concerto n. 5 BWV 1050
The BBC did a very good thing in selecting Maestro John Elliot-Gardiner to be the presenter of this fine movie. He was, I expect, probably the main researcher and writer of the script as well, and very well-done. I salute him, his musical associates of the English Baroque Soloists, and you, Mandel Karlsson, for posting this!
When I began to study music as young as 3 as of 6 I refused to play anything else than Bach. I had to, eventually, but I would play 6 times more time Bach than any other composer. I am are sure there were many great composers that I had to play, like Mozart, Rachmaninoff. It was basically all forced on me, kind of. I was hooked to Bach and computer programing. I was not late play the piano with pedals and everything had to be like a harpsichord like sounding. Then came Shostakovich, playing but forgetting everything but Bach. Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 blew my mind straight away, CDs were coming out and I could not get enough. Great documentary and great approach.
AMAZING....I've always been a fan of Mozart, and was happy to see this documentary to re-introduce me to Bach. I remember fondly my father playing his music on the church organ we had at home. Can't wait to "meet"Johann someday.
This is exactly the kind of biography on Bach that's been missing! Thank You BBC!!! I looked high and low in America for 'Die Stille vor Bach' but couldn't find it, and used the old Dennis Kobray video for my music students. That was pretty good, but this one is much more engaged well made and in depth, actually filmed in Germany. Plus, getting to know Sir John Elliot Gardiner is an added treat! Bravo!
Just phenomenal ~ thank you Sir Gardiner❣️ A documentary so exquisitely crafted and such a marvellous tribute and justice done musically, intellectually and spiritually about one of the most profound geniuses who lives on in our hearts and souls ~ all due to his timelessness , spirit and human accessibility.
I'd attribute it to people not making allowances for Gardiner's personal and particular preferences, speculations, biases, and performance style. I have those same misgivings, but that hasn't stopped from viewing this twice and recommending it to other Bach enthusiasts. Quite frankly, it's one of finest documentaries about Bach *because* of Gardiner's zeal and prejudices.
I came here recommended by Rick Beato. I came here for the beauty of the music. But you could call me blind to any beauty had I failed to notice (and truly appreciated) another beauty here: the one in scarf, colour vin rose, in the choir, at 59:58, then 1:02:15 far left, then, momentarily, 1:03:27 to :33; 1:09:57 and a couple other times. So graceful and nice!
Feb. 11, 2023 - I also thank Rick Beato for recommending this. The documentary is excellent - John Eliot Gardner is superb as an interpreter and teacher, let alone conductor! The musicians are terrific! Only 2 issues for me: 1) @ 1:08:03 the word "prophecy" appears on the screen when it should be "prophesy". As a retired Lutheran minister who heard lay people mix up the words for 39 years, I would tell them the noun "prophecy" has a "C" and is pronounced Prophe-"C" ["see"]. "Prophesy" - the verb - is pronounced like "sigh" - it's in Matthew 26:68. Only because the documentary is excellent and John Eliot Gardner is masterful, did that misspelling on the screen, astonish me - someone with an education missed it! 2) second issue - the contribution of the psychologist @ 1:14:14 is - I believe - shallow and unhelpful, and I guess because the psychologist was consulted (and respected) the psychologist's insight had to be included in the documentary - that isn't the only explanation for Bach's behavior or temperament - look at Washington, DC today - how you like to have your life and work under the eye of MAGA Republicans - Paul Gosar, Marjorie Taylor Greene and even Harvard educated ones like Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz - dealing with authority figures who are sentient but not sensible would be a pain, and if we agree - that Bach really truly was a Genius - I don't think its paranoia to believe "they" don't understand and "they" don't care - they being city, church, gov't officials. That little piece of psychology was unhelpful. Also, the philosopher/critic Raymond Tillis was very insightful and helpful and wore one of the most beautiful ties I've ever seen. [ when I saw "Tillis", Thomas Tallis came to mind]. And "O Sacred Head, Now Wounded" [tune Hans L Hassler, 1564 - 1612] popped into a snippet of the St. Matthew Passion.
I feel like ancient Greek music was more sophisticated than what we know of, just the entire ancient civilization was most likely more advanced than what history suggests
Although he undoubtedly had a satisfying experience in his lifetime, you kind of wish Bach could hear his music produced now with modern instruments, tuning and engineering.
I'm not sure Bach had a satisfying experience in his lifetime. In Mühlhausen, he complained about the lack of quality instruments and musicians available to him. I believe he also made similar complaints in Leipzig. Bach was also one of the first to test out the new innovation of the piano. I personally believe that Bach was looking forward to instruments that could fully capture the majesty of his music. I think the same could also be said of other virtuosi such as François Coupérin.
Biographies of great personalities are always interesting. Great musicians can offer a differnent profounduty. The human condition on which speak Bach (Corelli/ Vivaldi), Mozart (Handel/ Allegri), Beethoven and the Russians (Tchaikovski/ Rachmaninov), is so much richer for having their insights. What a nice summary: Bach translates divine perfection into a form within human grasp.
Thank you so much for putting this only, it is magnificent. (and shows what an un-politicized BBC could do in olden times) The fugue at the end invites comparison to Mozart singing his own requiem (written for someone else, but then it became his own) with friends in his last hours. This documentary or rather piece of art in itself clarifies an obvious contradiction between severe protestantism and baroque Catholicism: Bach was born in the wrong place. He truly flourished in praise of the Lord when in contact with catholicism in his last years, where I would always have placed him anyway. He lived in the wrong place, too much north. Don´t many of us feel like living in the wrong place or time? Bach as the ultimate baroque man clearly needs to be understood with a baroque "Lebensgefühl". The incredible hardships of his life, with 9 out of 22 children prematurely deceases, his parents and even his first wife, are chilling. The professional difficulties with employers not understanding his genius forced the true genius, "the diamond created from carbon under pressure", by the limitations to his expression. This film taught me even more that Bach, like Shakespeare, Aquinas, Heisenberg, is one of those beings normal humans can only wonder at from a modest distance, living in spheres we can only glance at. Wonderful. Thank you, Sir Gardiner. Jens Schirner, a Bavarian Catholic and lover of the renaissance and Barock.
I like the way he tries to convey the general 'spirit' of the piece that he's conducting to the performers. It's not all just musical notes, but an attitude and feeling/state of mind of the composer
1:13:48 The greatest of musicians with a happy family and life of faith has "paranoid personality disorder". I'll have some of that. I hereby diagnose the professor with terminal inferiority complex.
I am here because Rick Beato told me this is the greatest documentary in the history of the world on the subject of Bach. And I believe everything that Rick Beato says. Everything
Grateful for this! Bach is not like Mozart and Beethoven. He is like a ghost. Very little was documented in his life! Its very challenging to find anything! It is very frustrating!
Quando ouvimos a música de Bach desde suas primeiras cantatas, passando por suas obras seculares e também pelas Paixões de São Matheus e São João, culminando com sua obra máxima "A Arte da Fuga", percebemos com espanto a inteligência privilegiada que ele tinha. Ele foi a vida inteira um operário de sua arte e infelizmente não teve seu talento reconhecido pelos seus contemporâneos.
it's incredible how much credit, in modern society, is given to psychologists interpretations. How long will it take to people to realize that theories without facts are worthless?
Yes, they seemed eager to put a dysfunctional label on someone who was clearly a genius. All those things he was complaining about were true, they were hindering him, they were jealous of him; he had a vision that they could never see. So, right after these experts say he's paranoid, they say he's a genius....DUH! That's the true explanation.
@@coloraturaElise You're quite right. This evaluation makes as much sense as an astrological one. I understand that if you love Bach, you want to feel him entirely. And you search all perspectives. But you must make an effort towards him, not the other way around.
I don’t know who Rick Beats is, but given that they referred a lot of people to a documentary on J. S. Bach, it’s a safe bet that they have exquisite taste in music
Check out his RUclips channel. He’s a very talented, accomplished, and knowledgeable musician and music educator who iprimarily focuses on modern popular music and jazz.
A great docu other than the absurd bit of pseudo-psychoanalysis at around 1:13. "Paranoid personality disorder" indeed. The man as a genius, so naturally he was frustrated by the shortcomings of those he had to deal with!
Very enjoyable. Although, I thought it was odd that it was emphasized how we don’t have much in the way of letters and “facts” about Bach, and then it characterized him as having “paranoid personality disorder” based on that limited info.
I'm very skeptical as to the value of diagnosis with psychological disorder someone that lived centuries ago and of whom we know so little. It is a step, or several, too far, in my opinion, and may even muddy our understanding further, rather than clarify. Aside from that, it's a wonderful film. For those that enjoyed this documentary, it is worth getting a copy of Music in the Castle of Heaven, a book by Gardiner on the same topic, but which includes, of course, much more detail.
Did anyone notice that the cellist seen most often (and who played the Prélude to Suite No. 1 in G major) was the cellist from the film Beethoven's Èroica.
Superb. See also Luther's classic biography, Here I Stand, by Bainton; and of course the superb movie, Martin Luther: Protest Changed the Course of History, 105 min. DVD, dramatic B&W 1952 classic, and also the movie, "The Great Mr. Handel" (1942; 110 min.). Robert, Ancient Heritage Foundation
Your video is quite good,, notwithstanding your personal, intrusive judgements about Bach's psychological make-up. Your "psychologist" simply pats your back. Many children are bullied, abused and don't come remotely close to the creativity and humanity of Bach. You try to force one of you guests to agree with you that Bach was "Zen-like," and he did not take the bait. Bach is a genius, often guided by the Holy Spirit.
"often guided by the Holy Spirit" - wow. That's some agenda you're pushing there - highly speculative, and utterly with empirical basis. The psychological analysis, however, has considerable empirical basis. I should know. I do psychological research and am a highly experienced psychothapist. Welcome to the 21st century.
@@liammurphy2725 Absolutely. Psychotherapy is the treatment of psychopathology, so of course we study it, and research it as well. Empirical knowledge of it is foundational to our profession.
@@Mike-vh3bd name-calling is no substitute for a thoughtful response. Do not confuse jargon with babble. Technical vocabulary, commonly refer to as jargon, serves a vital purpose in any professional domain. It improves specificity and efficiency of communication. Just because you do not understand something does not mean that you're dealing with babble. And this is a thoughtful discussion, not a schoolyard brawl. I suggest you join in at the level in which it is offered.
1) As if to bookend German Protestant Reformer Martin Luther's most famous hymn Ein Feste Burg (A Mighty Fortress) that he composed while young and still a Catholic, so did J.S. Bach, the greatest Lutheran composer, in the last years of his life create the Mass in B Minor, a monumental setting of the Catholic liturgy's Ordinary in Latin. 2) As a prefiguring of Mozart's incomplete Requiem, I refer to The Art of the Fugue's unfinished # XIV as Bach's 'Contrapunctus Maledictis'. 3) 1:26:31-43: "My fantasy is that it's completely deliberate and actually it's that unfinished business that I've written my music for the future and someone else is going to carry on now." Would that 'someone else' be P.D.Q. Bach (Peter Schickele, b. 1935 in Ames, Iowa, USA), whose works include The Art of The Ground Round (S. $1.19/lb.)? 4) There are unconfirmed rumors that P.D.Q. Bach also composed The Art of the Fudge Swirl to demonstrate his proficiency at chocolatey counterpoint in various assorted confections.
Thank you Rick Beato for recommending this documentary.
Same here
that's how i ended up here, too
Same, big thanks really.
My thanks also to Rick Beato for sharing his insight on Bach and pointing us to this video to expand upon it more and to not feel diminished in the slightest way by another's wonderful exposition. Bravo
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I was stupid forgot the password. I love any tips you can offer me.
Rick beato brought me here
Me too!
Same here !
Yep
Same here
Me too👍🏻
the greatest preacher, ever, was Bach, and he never opened his mouth.
What a great and striking point. We'll said.
“Preach the gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words"
Francis Assisi
I have loved Bach all my adult life, and I had no idea how much Bach suffered during his life. I deeply appreciate this video which has given me a deeper appreciation for how Bach did not let his life of sadness stop his "passionate life". Thanks to this portrayal, I know will appreciate Bach's music all the more. And thank you Rick Beato for recommending this documentary.
this was fantastic. I was recommended this documentary through Rick Beato's channel. And this really inspired me about Bach and the classical music period. Thank you
Me too 😂
I really hate to be pedantic, but….Bach composed in the Baroque period, but his music falls within the “classical” music designation as decided upon by recording companies long before they were aware of historical periods in the development of Western music. Just to provide context, there is the Renaissance (1400s-1500s), the Baroque (about 1600-1750), the Classical (roughly 1730-1820), the Romantic (roughly 1798 into the 20th century), and modern (early 20th century until today) periods of music, _all of which_ are now called “classical music” so that record companies knew how to market it to the buying public. Don’t you hate it when ignorant people define culture, lol??
00:00 Opening chorus from St Matthew Passion BWV 244
00:38 Opening chorus from St John Passion BWV 245
2:16 First mov. - Brandenburg Concerto n. 3 BWV 1048
3:40 Chorus Christus, Der Ist Mein Leben BWV 95
4:40 Aria Hebt Euer Haupt Empor BWV 70
5:10 Largo - Concerto for 4 Harpsichords BWV 1065
7:09 Chorus "Wenn es meines Gottes Wille" BWV 161
10:58 Chorus Christ Unser Herr Zum Jordan Kam BWV 7
12:06 Aria Des Vaters Stimme Liess Sich Hören BWV 7
12:38 Chorus Wachet, betet, betet, wachet ! bwv 70
13:36 Gigue - Cello suite BWV 1007
15:04 Pachelbel, Toccata e-minor
16:12 Johann Christoph Bach, Es ist nun aus mit meinem Leben
17:48 Sonatina, Actus tragicus BWV 106
20:17 Aria Wenn Kömmt Der Tag BWV 70
23:37 Chorus Christus, Der Ist Mein Leben BWV 95
26:39 Aria Nimm Mich Dir Zu Eigen Hin BWV 65
27:55 Chorus Gott ist mein König, BWV 71
29:14 Aria Wenn Kömmt Der Tag BWV 70
32:06 Allegro (3 mov.) - Brandenburg Concerto n. 1 BWV 1046
51:00 Allegro (3 mov.) - Brandenburg Concerto n. 3 BWV 1048
53:12 Aria Gebt Mir Meinen Jesum Wieder from St Matthew Passion BWV 244
57:40 Opening chorus from St John Passion BWV 245
1:02:07 Chorus Ruht Wohl, Ihr Heiligen Gebeine from St John Passion BWV 245
1:06:04 Opening chorus from St Matthew Passion BWV 244
1:15:20 Allegro (3 mov.) - Brandenburg Concerto n. 5 BWV 1050
Thank you^_^
You forgot WIR EILEN MIT SCWACHEN @ 1:03:56
Where's the First Cello Suite Prélude ?
Carmen, you're amazingly kind, thank you very much indeed !!!
Very nice job. Thank you!
This is brilliant! I would also like to thank Rick Beato and his video discussing Bach for the recommendation in watching this video.
Likewise! Thank you
Great Bachumentary.
The BBC did a very good thing in selecting Maestro John Elliot-Gardiner to be the presenter of this fine movie. He was, I expect, probably the main researcher and writer of the script as well, and very well-done. I salute him, his musical associates of the English Baroque Soloists, and you, Mandel Karlsson, for posting this!
Very well said. I think this is the best Bach -biogrhy at RUclips
Thank you Rick Beato for recommending this fantastic documentary.
Why do I return here so often ?
Thank you all ! And may God bless you all !
Pope John Paul said once: If the angels play for themselves they are used to play Mozart….but if they play for god they certainly play BACH…😊
I came here via Rick Beato, and wow Bach must be the greatest composer ever, only God could have sent one as him to this earth
When I began to study music as young as 3 as of 6 I refused to play anything else than Bach. I had to, eventually, but I would play 6 times more time Bach than any other composer. I am are sure there were many great composers that I had to play, like Mozart, Rachmaninoff. It was basically all forced on me, kind of. I was hooked to Bach and computer programing. I was not late play the piano with pedals and everything had to be like a harpsichord like sounding. Then came Shostakovich, playing but forgetting everything but Bach. Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 blew my mind straight away, CDs were coming out and I could not get enough. Great documentary and great approach.
Thanx Rick Beato... This is a Heaven's Gift...!
I love this. And yes, Rick Beato brought me here. Thank's Rick.
I skipped class and now I gotta watch this whole thing at home 😐🥲😭
bro thats horrible- my strings class is doing this and i dislike it greatly.
@@thicccgoddess i got music appreciation where all you do is write notes about instruments and don’t even touch one
@@fabianesparza7525 lol thats funny, better hide the 4 violins i have and that piano-
@@fabianesparza7525 same ughhh
AMAZING....I've always been a fan of Mozart, and was happy to see this documentary to re-introduce me to Bach. I remember fondly my father
playing his music on the church organ we had at home. Can't wait to "meet"Johann someday.
so touching .. :)
B A C H ? Wow. I had no idea. That last choral performance around his burial place was divine.
What piece was that?
JESU, MEINE FREUDE BWV227@@ElliHamzaAliHamza
This is exactly the kind of biography on Bach that's been missing! Thank You BBC!!!
I looked high and low in America for 'Die Stille vor Bach' but couldn't find it, and used the old Dennis Kobray video for my music students. That was pretty good, but this one is much more engaged well made and in depth, actually filmed in Germany. Plus, getting to know Sir John Elliot Gardiner is an added treat!
Bravo!
Just phenomenal ~ thank you Sir Gardiner❣️
A documentary so exquisitely crafted and such a marvellous tribute and justice done musically, intellectually and spiritually about one of the most profound geniuses who lives on in our hearts and souls ~ all due to his timelessness , spirit and human accessibility.
Thank you thank thank you for making this wonderfully narrated and filmed documentary available! 🙏🏻
I rented this on DVD from Netflix many years ago. I despaired of ever seeing it again, but here it is on RUclips! Best music documentary ever!
What an extraordinary document! Thank you Mr. Gardiner. How can anyone "dislike" this jewel?
I'd attribute it to people not making allowances for Gardiner's personal and particular preferences, speculations, biases, and performance style. I have those same misgivings, but that hasn't stopped from viewing this twice and recommending it to other Bach enthusiasts. Quite frankly, it's one of finest documentaries about Bach *because* of Gardiner's zeal and prejudices.
Ggg
This is one everybody should see, preferably more than once.
I came here recommended by Rick Beato. I came here for the beauty of the music. But you could call me blind to any beauty had I failed to notice (and truly appreciated) another beauty here: the one in scarf, colour vin rose, in the choir, at 59:58, then 1:02:15 far left, then, momentarily, 1:03:27 to :33; 1:09:57 and a couple other times. So graceful and nice!
Feb. 11, 2023 - I also thank Rick Beato for recommending this. The documentary is excellent - John Eliot Gardner is superb as an interpreter and teacher, let alone conductor! The musicians are terrific! Only 2 issues for me: 1) @ 1:08:03 the word "prophecy" appears on the screen when it should be "prophesy". As a retired Lutheran minister who heard lay people mix up the words for 39 years, I would tell them the noun "prophecy" has a "C" and is pronounced Prophe-"C" ["see"]. "Prophesy" - the verb - is pronounced like "sigh" - it's in Matthew 26:68. Only because the documentary is excellent and John Eliot Gardner is masterful, did that misspelling on the screen, astonish me - someone with an education missed it! 2) second issue - the contribution of the psychologist @ 1:14:14 is - I believe - shallow and unhelpful, and I guess because the psychologist was consulted (and respected) the psychologist's insight had to be included in the documentary - that isn't the only explanation for Bach's behavior or temperament - look at Washington, DC today - how you like to have your life and work under the eye of MAGA Republicans - Paul Gosar, Marjorie Taylor Greene and even Harvard educated ones like Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz - dealing with authority figures who are sentient but not sensible would be a pain, and if we agree - that Bach really truly was a Genius - I don't think its paranoia to believe "they" don't understand and "they" don't care - they being city, church, gov't officials. That little piece of psychology was unhelpful. Also, the philosopher/critic Raymond Tillis was very insightful and helpful and wore one of the most beautiful ties I've ever seen. [ when I saw "Tillis", Thomas Tallis came to mind]. And "O Sacred Head, Now Wounded" [tune Hans L Hassler, 1564 - 1612] popped into a snippet of the St. Matthew Passion.
Thank you so much for posting this.
Bach and Handel: titans of the baroque period music
“The highest goal of music is to connect one’s soul to their Divine Nature, not entertainment” --Pythagoras
I feel like ancient Greek music was more sophisticated than what we know of, just the entire ancient civilization was most likely more advanced than what history suggests
@@guitarlover1370 Totally agree with you!
You travel around Germany and you'll kind of randomly run into either "Luther was here" or "Bach was here". Those dudes got AROUND!
Although he undoubtedly had a satisfying experience in his lifetime, you kind of wish Bach could hear his music produced now with modern instruments, tuning and engineering.
I'm not sure Bach had a satisfying experience in his lifetime. In Mühlhausen, he complained about the lack of quality instruments and musicians available to him. I believe he also made similar complaints in Leipzig. Bach was also one of the first to test out the new innovation of the piano. I personally believe that Bach was looking forward to instruments that could fully capture the majesty of his music. I think the same could also be said of other virtuosi such as François Coupérin.
happy birthday Bach!!!
Much better than Netflix.
the music in the background is too awesome, i can't concentrate on what is said
I too was sent by Rick Beato. It is absolutely fabulous!!
Thanks for this amazing documentary.
I'm indebted to Rick Beato.
...'the gold standard' never a truer word spoken
True. I never thought of these words.
It's an excellent word of his whole legacy.
Sheer brilliance! This piece is a treasure!
"30 miles away, walking the whole way"
"260 miles away, walking the whole way"
He didn't give a crap, the man had somewhere to go and he just went
Universal culture. We can't forget! I wish it would be taught in school
Biographies of great personalities are always interesting. Great musicians can offer a differnent profounduty. The human condition on which speak Bach (Corelli/ Vivaldi), Mozart (Handel/ Allegri), Beethoven and the Russians (Tchaikovski/ Rachmaninov), is so much richer for having their insights. What a nice summary: Bach translates divine perfection into a form within human grasp.
Thank you so much for putting this only, it is magnificent. (and shows what an un-politicized BBC could do in olden times)
The fugue at the end invites comparison to Mozart singing his own requiem (written for someone else, but then it became his own) with friends in his last hours.
This documentary or rather piece of art in itself clarifies an obvious contradiction between severe protestantism and baroque Catholicism: Bach was born in the wrong place. He truly flourished in praise of the Lord when in contact with catholicism in his last years, where I would always have placed him anyway. He lived in the wrong place, too much north. Don´t many of us feel like living in the wrong place or time?
Bach as the ultimate baroque man clearly needs to be understood with a baroque "Lebensgefühl". The incredible hardships of his life, with 9 out of 22 children prematurely deceases, his parents and even his first wife, are chilling. The professional difficulties with employers not understanding his genius forced the true genius, "the diamond created from carbon under pressure", by the limitations to his expression.
This film taught me even more that Bach, like Shakespeare, Aquinas, Heisenberg, is one of those beings normal humans can only wonder at from a modest distance, living in spheres we can only glance at.
Wonderful. Thank you, Sir Gardiner.
Jens Schirner, a Bavarian Catholic and lover of the renaissance and Barock.
Bach stimulates the mind and takes the soul to the presence of God. Who else does that?
Rick Beato brought me here. Amazing documentary, so much great music awaiting close listening....
Yes thanks Rick. Enlightened 🎶😊
Rick brought me here too. And I’m glad he did!
Don't Forget he was God's Musician...
His perfect astounding PIECES OF Work CAME OUT OF His Passion For CHRIST regardless of all the work he did...
Amen!
What happened to men like Bach. In every field of endeavor modern man falls short of all glory . . .
@@corneliusfronto660 clearly you havent listented to Playboi Carti
@@Fildoggy lmfaoooo
I'm not a hungover middle chool music teacher, but I put this on the tv about as often.
Amazing documentary.
Awesome doc, truly beautiful. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you, Rick Beato, for recommending this documentary
It enlightened me about Bach’s life and his music history.
I like the way he tries to convey the general 'spirit' of the piece that he's conducting to the performers. It's not all just musical
notes, but an attitude and feeling/state of mind of the composer
1:13:48 The greatest of musicians with a happy family and life of faith has "paranoid personality disorder". I'll have some of that.
I hereby diagnose the professor with terminal inferiority complex.
J.S. Bach is the MOSES of music.
I am here because Rick Beato told me this is the greatest documentary in the history of the world on the subject of Bach. And I believe everything that Rick Beato says. Everything
I am coming to this video over and over to listen its version of Erbarme Dich. That singer is amazing.
Here 1:09:56
Would you happen to know the piece at 5:45?
Me too :)
@@piggy2309 BWV 1065 Concerto for 4 Harpsichords in Am.
@@joyousmonkey6085 THANK YOU SO MUCH
Oh my God - that singer is unbelievable!!
What's her name?
Fine documentary, thanks.
I came here on recommendation by Rick Beato's (pop) music channel.
Great documentary, offering lots of insights! I wish there was more to watch and more to learn about Bach's life. Thanks for sharing this.
1:16:26 - background wind instrument (Title given 1 minute later on)
Grateful for this! Bach is not like Mozart and Beethoven. He is like a ghost. Very little was documented in his life! Its very challenging to find anything! It is very frustrating!
It's a shame this isn't available on disc. I'd love to have a blu-ray copy.
Quando ouvimos a música de Bach desde suas primeiras cantatas, passando por suas obras seculares e também pelas Paixões de São Matheus e São João, culminando com sua obra máxima "A Arte da Fuga", percebemos com espanto a inteligência privilegiada que ele tinha. Ele foi a vida inteira um operário de sua arte e infelizmente não teve seu talento reconhecido pelos seus contemporâneos.
Fabulous doc. Many thanks.
That lady in the choir is out of a historical painting.
Cute and cool
Well done...thank you
it's incredible how much credit, in modern society, is given to psychologists interpretations. How long will it take to people to realize that theories without facts are worthless?
Yes, they seemed eager to put a dysfunctional label on someone who was clearly a genius. All those things he was complaining about were true, they were hindering him, they were jealous of him; he had a vision that they could never see. So, right after these experts say he's paranoid, they say he's a genius....DUH! That's the true explanation.
@@coloraturaElise You're quite right. This evaluation makes as much sense as an astrological one. I understand that if you love Bach, you want to feel him entirely. And you search all perspectives. But you must make an effort towards him, not the other way around.
@@jabaruoqui Excellent comment.
I don’t know who Rick Beats is, but given that they referred a lot of people to a documentary on J. S. Bach, it’s a safe bet that they have exquisite taste in music
Check out his RUclips channel. He’s a very talented, accomplished, and knowledgeable musician and music educator who iprimarily focuses on modern popular music and jazz.
The part at 1:45 blew me away, I had to pause the video and sit in silence full of awe
THANKS FOR SHARING, MANDEL... AND THANKS TO RICK BEATO TOO...PITY CAPTIONS ARE UNAVAILABLE...
Highly interesting documentary interspersed with music clips.
I want to thank you too, Rick Beato, for recommending this documentary. I love music!
A great docu other than the absurd bit of pseudo-psychoanalysis at around 1:13. "Paranoid personality disorder" indeed. The man as a genius, so naturally he was frustrated by the shortcomings of those he had to deal with!
Brilliant!
Very enjoyable. Although, I thought it was odd that it was emphasized how we don’t have much in the way of letters and “facts” about Bach, and then it characterized him as having “paranoid personality disorder” based on that limited info.
I'm very skeptical as to the value of diagnosis with psychological disorder someone that lived centuries ago and of whom we know so little. It is a step, or several, too far, in my opinion, and may even muddy our understanding further, rather than clarify. Aside from that, it's a wonderful film.
For those that enjoyed this documentary, it is worth getting a copy of Music in the Castle of Heaven, a book by Gardiner on the same topic, but which includes, of course, much more detail.
“This Leipzig cantor is the manifestation of God: pure and yet inexplicable.” Carl Friedrich Zelter
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there are composers, there are great composers, and then there is J.S. Bach.😅
Thank you for this
Wonderfully done.
THANKS A LOT for such a content
Thank you Mary Ellen Haupert for recommending this documentary.
This was amazing
I'm a big boy I found this doc all by myself lol.
Did anyone notice that the cellist seen most often (and who played the Prélude to Suite No. 1 in G major) was the cellist from the film Beethoven's Èroica.
Thanks Rick Beato, great doc!
And if Bach were alive today, I'll bet Rick Beato would interview him.....or spend every day trying to anyway 😉
Superb. See also Luther's classic biography, Here I Stand, by Bainton; and of course the superb movie, Martin Luther: Protest Changed the Course of History, 105 min. DVD, dramatic B&W 1952 classic, and also the movie, "The Great Mr. Handel" (1942; 110 min.). Robert, Ancient Heritage Foundation
Rick Beato recommended this movie to me
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The presenter wrote a rather comprehensive biography of Bach, on which this seems based. Titled: Music in the Castle of Heaven. Recommended 👍🏼
same here!
@1:03:55 Clare Wilkinson & Julia Doyle
Your video is quite good,, notwithstanding your personal, intrusive judgements about Bach's psychological make-up. Your "psychologist" simply pats your back. Many children are bullied, abused and don't come remotely close to the creativity and humanity of Bach. You try to force one of you guests to agree with you that Bach was "Zen-like," and he did not take the bait. Bach is a genius, often guided by the Holy Spirit.
"often guided by the Holy Spirit" - wow. That's some agenda you're pushing there - highly speculative, and utterly with empirical basis.
The psychological analysis, however, has considerable empirical basis. I should know. I do psychological research and am a highly experienced psychothapist. Welcome to the 21st century.
@@TomCloyd Does a psychothapist study psychopathy?
@@liammurphy2725 Absolutely. Psychotherapy is the treatment of psychopathology, so of course we study it, and research it as well. Empirical knowledge of it is foundational to our profession.
@@TomCloyd Psychobabble
@@Mike-vh3bd name-calling is no substitute for a thoughtful response. Do not confuse jargon with babble. Technical vocabulary, commonly refer to as jargon, serves a vital purpose in any professional domain. It improves specificity and efficiency of communication. Just because you do not understand something does not mean that you're dealing with babble. And this is a thoughtful discussion, not a schoolyard brawl. I suggest you join in at the level in which it is offered.
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1) As if to bookend German Protestant Reformer Martin Luther's most famous hymn Ein Feste Burg (A Mighty Fortress) that he composed while young and still a Catholic, so did J.S. Bach, the greatest Lutheran composer, in the last years of his life create the Mass in B Minor, a monumental setting of the Catholic liturgy's Ordinary in Latin.
2) As a prefiguring of Mozart's incomplete Requiem, I refer to The Art of the Fugue's unfinished # XIV as Bach's 'Contrapunctus Maledictis'.
3) 1:26:31-43: "My fantasy is that it's completely deliberate and actually it's that unfinished business that I've written my music for the future and someone else is going to carry on now." Would that 'someone else' be P.D.Q. Bach (Peter Schickele, b. 1935 in Ames, Iowa, USA), whose works include The Art of The Ground Round (S. $1.19/lb.)?
4) There are unconfirmed rumors that P.D.Q. Bach also composed The Art of the Fudge Swirl to demonstrate his proficiency at chocolatey counterpoint in various assorted confections.
Not here for the story just here for the music
They should have called the documentary 'Bach: Underneath the wig' :)