How Much Faster Has Chip Tuning Made The 330d?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @lpedrosf8260
    @lpedrosf8260 6 лет назад +1894

    Hitting steering wheel after a turn increases acceleration by 50%

    • @jakeshipston2958
      @jakeshipston2958 6 лет назад +2

      True

    • @sam._.buswell8181
      @sam._.buswell8181 6 лет назад +11

      LPedro SF this is a legitimately funny comment 😂😂😂

    • @doit_vehicles
      @doit_vehicles 6 лет назад +1

      Haha lol

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 6 лет назад +49

      The real-life equivalent of pressing the button harder on the Xbox controller.

    • @ammarskyline7075
      @ammarskyline7075 6 лет назад +4

      That was really annoying!

  • @blower1
    @blower1 6 лет назад +402

    This 'race chip' works to a degree but is no where near what you can get with a proper remap as they are just boost pressure sensor interceptors. They also have no control over the fueling so rely on the engines protection features to stop it running too lean - the result is EGT protection can kick in and it runs very rich to try and compensate for too lean under full boost....this means that on first few runs you get a load of power but the power can fade as EGT protection will keep kicking in. Long and short of it is power gained from these things is usually inconsistent. I also worry about these things burning valves over time (again from intermittently running too lean).

    • @suitsyousir1980
      @suitsyousir1980 6 лет назад +12

      blower winning comment

    • @jankesbmw
      @jankesbmw 6 лет назад +11

      yes but they cant sell proper remap in shop.........LOL

    • @zturbo
      @zturbo 6 лет назад +16

      A diesel can not run to lean and won't get to high EGT from lean mixture.
      However those piggyback boxes are utter crap anyway.

    • @blower1
      @blower1 6 лет назад +4

      +Powerguru78 I was referring to petrol engines - of which this 'race chip' is available for. For the diesels it does seem to have some control over the fuel rail pressure sensor, but that's a poor way to control fueling. For petrol engines it has no control, their instructions also seem to indicate it doesn't even tap into the camshaft sensor for RPM measurement so on some petrol engines (if not all) it really is just a boost pressure sensor reading manipulator.

    • @karolis5332
      @karolis5332 4 года назад +1

      You are risking very much by going to a chiptunning company and letting people programm your ECU. You people can read what chiptunnig does to your car after a while. I went to BMW Krasta Auto building and asked what do they think about chiptunning and they said that most of the engine's parts will much sooner become unusable and then u'll have to go fix your car for a lot of money. And there is an artical, where a BMW enginner explains, what happens after you chip your car (really bad). Wouldn't even consider it.

  • @AggressiveSharter
    @AggressiveSharter 6 лет назад +728

    Now that the chip is in, you should really, REALLY, remove the swirl flaps in the intake manifold (if it hasn't been done by a previous owner) before they come loose and go into the engine. It's a common and well-known weakness on multiple diesel engines from BMW (like the M57 in Gareth) and is the reason for multiple broken engines.
    Also, please remove the EGR-valve and buy an aftermarket downpipe. The downpipe should realease a horse with power (maybe even two) 😎
    Damn, this must be the longest comment I've ever written. I'm quite cool, obviously

    • @onemanarmyEST
      @onemanarmyEST 6 лет назад +8

      Got those replaced with blanking plates on my '00 E38 730d, I've driven it over 50kkm since I bought it. It now has over 410kkm(255k miles) on the odometer.

    • @jonnyrocket
      @jonnyrocket 6 лет назад +3

      You are! :)

    • @ak47gat1
      @ak47gat1 6 лет назад +57

      It has been done, I checked a few days ago .... So relax !! They're not going to get snaffled by the engine

    • @alexhawes6690
      @alexhawes6690 6 лет назад +2

      Theyre also on some Alfa JTD engines,as i just found out to my horror.

    • @stahlino
      @stahlino 6 лет назад

      Yeah these bloody GM/Opel/Alfa 1,9 CDTIs eat them as well as the 4 and 6 cylinder BMWs...

  • @Fantic1980
    @Fantic1980 6 лет назад +643

    So the entire 330d series was just a setup to sell a bolt-on from the Car Throttle shop?

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 6 лет назад +105

      Yes

    • @Mr_Kurosaki
      @Mr_Kurosaki 6 лет назад +104

      Except weight reduction, they don't sell that one

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 6 лет назад +20

      @@Mr_Kurosaki But they can sell tools to do that

    • @MrNickelbrille
      @MrNickelbrille 6 лет назад +2

      Maybe they will.Thought of neongasBallons yet?Now hold on a second.This was supposed to be a joke.But that could work right???

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 6 лет назад +6

      @@MrNickelbrille Helium has a lifting force of 1 gram per liter. So if you have a balloon that contains 5 liters of helium, the balloon can lift 5 grams. So no, hydrogen would be best but you know what hydrogen does when exposed to heat.

  • @MandoMonge
    @MandoMonge 6 лет назад +609

    Dynoing would’ve been interesting to see if it really works or it’s just placebo nonsense

    • @buckybarnes3803
      @buckybarnes3803 6 лет назад +34

      I had an E46 gas, and I was told by a tuning shop that the chips won't help unless it has turbos

    • @WeirdBrick
      @WeirdBrick 6 лет назад +6

      Actually no! All that matters is what happens on the tarmac and its clear if you saw the end... Most supercar owners nowadays only go by real life 30-130 times instead of some dyno numbers which can be manipulated with ease!!
      It would of been better being dyno tuned mind...

    • @TheFPSPower
      @TheFPSPower 6 лет назад +33

      trust me when I say chip tuning on a diesel is very noticeable, diesels get crazy amounts of torque from the simplest HP gains and that's what you feel very different

    • @dudeshark2471
      @dudeshark2471 6 лет назад +8

      Bucky Barnes don’t go back to that shop. Straight up misinformation. Sure you won’t pick up as much horsepower as a turbo car but a tune for the most part is just about throwing more timing where it is safe to do so. It might not net you peak numbers necessarily but it’ll definitely help with area under the line

    • @rosshilditch5972
      @rosshilditch5972 6 лет назад +5

      Bucky Barnes all cars have limiters from the factory to help with emissions so turbo or not your car will gain power with the limits being removed

  • @Mish93Will
    @Mish93Will 6 лет назад +179

    Race Chip is rubbish. Tested one on a MK7 GTi some time back and the car actually lost power. I don't know if they are any better now but piggy back or ECU foolers rarely work, in fact they can be quite dangerous. The only plug and play system i would trust on a BMW is Burger Motorsports's JB4 or in your case JBD. These have been proven to make good safe power. Ideally you would just want to flash a proper map on to the ECU though.

    • @BrodeyDoverosx
      @BrodeyDoverosx 6 лет назад +6

      All piggybacks fight the ECU. You will not be able to adjust the torque or cylinder pressure limiters. You are also not adjusting the AFR or timing, so stick with a proper flash tune.

    • @Mish93Will
      @Mish93Will 6 лет назад +2

      Have no experience with them and have not heard much either. You should check out forums for people's experience of them. But if in doubt, i would say just go with a reputable tuner and get a proper custom map flashed on to your ECU.

    • @Theyorkshirepirlo
      @Theyorkshirepirlo 6 лет назад +1

      Been running a jb4 for almost 3 years and it’s by far the best performance per pound. Great bit of kit

    • @Boz1211111
      @Boz1211111 6 лет назад +2

      proper maping is the way to go

    • @5ivetimes1
      @5ivetimes1 6 лет назад +1

      Race Chip destroyed the engine in my VXR, no word of a lie. Avoid this crap if you value your motor. A bespoke dyno or live map is far safer and superior.

  • @C4CH3S
    @C4CH3S 6 лет назад +820

    So when is the dyno hitting the car throttle shop so you can actually tune the car? 😂😂😂😂

    • @hojnikb
      @hojnikb 6 лет назад +35

      Santeri Saari Because they can't sell a custom dynotune on their website and the whole point of this build is to showcase their shop and products they sell. Which is nothing wrong about it, just not what you might be expecting from this build.

    • @grantscowen1308
      @grantscowen1308 6 лет назад +2

      Exactly, they can't promote and sell a custom map

    • @entrophany
      @entrophany 6 лет назад +4

      Yes, they could. :D They send you an email with attached pdf-file of 63'297 pages of binary that you can upload trough obd2.

    • @DoktrDub
      @DoktrDub 5 лет назад

      Boris Kalashnikov they do work... to a degree, nothing like a remap though obviously

  • @pedrogbranco
    @pedrogbranco 6 лет назад +131

    Its a shame you guys went for a piggyback box. It will fiddle with fuel injecting and throttle response will be way faster but you will still be limited to the original ecu torque, boost and injection maps, not to mention that over time the self adaptation of the car ecu will compensate the piggyback box overfuelling.
    So I challenge you guys for a proper review with dyno figures on install and after a week of trash driving (to give time to the ecu to adapt) and then do a proper ECU remap on a bespoked company and see the difference.

    • @Orvieta
      @Orvieta 6 лет назад +4

      ^^ This man knows what he's talking about, this is indeed not how you do tuning.

    • @breibreii
      @breibreii 6 лет назад +2

      ^^ This man knows what he's talking about, this is indeed not how you do tuning.

    • @CaptGreyBeard
      @CaptGreyBeard 6 лет назад +12

      They’ll never do it, it would jeopardize their revenue for said piggy back box they’re peddling on the shop

    • @DoktrDub
      @DoktrDub 5 лет назад +1

      Orvieta he’s talking common sense, doesn’t mean he knows his shit lol

    • @Tallandcharming
      @Tallandcharming 5 лет назад +5

      Pedro Branco sorry but you’re talking shit. I should know, I’ve bought three RaceChips, Audi Q5, BMW 428i and now in my 2.0TFSI Arteon R which is generating 334HP and 100 extra torque. I’ve had RaceChips for a combined 3+yrs and they are faultless, they do not lose power, they DO increase torque and they perform as well as any tune. Also, judging by the pissed off A45 AMG driver on Sunday who I blew off at the lights, it’s pretty bloody good value for money!

  • @henrydtstoner
    @henrydtstoner 6 лет назад +452

    Diesel tuning is one of the most satisfying things every just seeing torque figures shoot up. Like on the 1.9 TDI engines!

    • @gypsyemperor7535
      @gypsyemperor7535 6 лет назад +28

      I had a 1.9 Ibiza cupra tdi, 210 bhp on remap. Rapid.

    • @sutipd4973
      @sutipd4973 6 лет назад +9

      Just chipped my Golf 4 equipped with an AXR TDI engine,Can confirm! :D

    • @MosterEneRgyElite
      @MosterEneRgyElite 6 лет назад +9

      I also have the AXR engine, an extra 60BHP just from a remap 🤙🏼

    • @sutipd4973
      @sutipd4973 6 лет назад +8

      I got about the same,this plus a straight pipe,launch control and rev limiter=So much fun.

    • @Theycallmedoorway
      @Theycallmedoorway 6 лет назад +10

      Love my E350 CDI - remapped to 306HP and 510 FT/LBS. Aventador Torque

  • @two_number_nines
    @two_number_nines 6 лет назад +154

    Unless i see a proper dyno run i don't care. A highly edited video of crigeworthy track racing doesn't mean much, because there are much more variables other than power. i would also expect a bit of a black smoke out the exhaust when in race mode, but it was as clear as countryside air. This junk will most probably ruin your car, because it's not properly custom mapped.

    • @DoktrDub
      @DoktrDub 5 лет назад +4

      Two_Number_Nines it just mainly increases fuel pressure, shouldn’t do anything harmful to the car, they’ve been tuned for the specific model of ECU, they have these things in mind you know, they are going to know if it messes with the car or pumps out black smoke lol

    • @phrg8332
      @phrg8332 5 лет назад

      @@DoktrDub only thing the box does is overfueling. The ECU can easily adapt after about a week. Then the box does basically nothing. Proper remapping will stay permanent and will work way better

    • @ilijapetrovic3888
      @ilijapetrovic3888 3 года назад +1

      I think so too. I can in comment to confirm. I would not put that thing in my car. Don't promote stuff just for the buck

  • @alexandruv847
    @alexandruv847 6 лет назад +162

    this thing is more expensive than a custom tune with dyno sheet in my country

    • @a_maze_snaps
      @a_maze_snaps 6 лет назад +10

      Even in uk its cheaper to get a proper dyno tune. This box is for people who have no clue. No petrol head will ever want a box.

    • @Liam94Smith
      @Liam94Smith 4 года назад +3

      @@a_maze_snaps Ah the usual "no real petrol head will ever like this thing I don't agree with for no factual reason" comment. 👍

  • @yeetmanishere
    @yeetmanishere 6 лет назад +23

    i feel like this is towars the car throttle shop than the actual project car and that annoys me

  • @Pro88teC
    @Pro88teC 6 лет назад +1215

    You spend so much money on this car and dont buy a proper machine for measurement the exakt time ot the laps. This is totaly ridiculous.

    • @randomname839
      @randomname839 6 лет назад +28

      Pro88teC seriously

    • @dudeshark2471
      @dudeshark2471 6 лет назад +318

      Haha it’s so that they can fudge numbers a bit for products that really don’t do shit

    • @FrodoTEST
      @FrodoTEST 6 лет назад +201

      Because you can't buy that in the CT shop.

    • @theuglynakedguyfromfriends8134
      @theuglynakedguyfromfriends8134 6 лет назад +13

      It's not about getting there , it's about how to get there .

    • @Zak-ob5ze
      @Zak-ob5ze 6 лет назад +3

      And you can't even spell. So...

  • @gtlegacy8
    @gtlegacy8 6 лет назад +120

    At this point it cheaper just to buy a e46 m3

    • @philtripe
      @philtripe 6 лет назад +4

      what fun is that...besides you can do it to a E46, C3PO and even an R2D2 if you want

    • @gtlegacy8
      @gtlegacy8 6 лет назад +33

      M3 is way more fun than a diesel station wagon trust me

    • @xcskex3389
      @xcskex3389 4 года назад

      CSL would have been ideal

    • @Jayger-bomb
      @Jayger-bomb 4 года назад +1

      They did this more for the content, this was more enjoyable to watch than them buying an e46 m3 and doing lap times

    • @cheesebandan
      @cheesebandan 4 года назад +1

      Not in fuel

  • @LimitedTraction
    @LimitedTraction 6 лет назад +769

    The torque on these Diesels! 👌🏼👌🏼

    • @Speedgear
      @Speedgear 6 лет назад +8

      ive got an e39 from 99 530d tunned map with 230hp and 550nm, daily ride

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 6 лет назад +3

      @@Speedgear turn the torque down and the power up.

    • @timothyb7749
      @timothyb7749 6 лет назад +42

      Life isn´t a video game, power is the product of torque and the RPM you make. [ HP = ( Torque in nm x RPM ) / 5252 ], diesels generaly redline at around 5000 - 5500RPM and make peak torque at around 1500 - 2500 RPM, this is why even though they have more torque then petrol engines, they tend to make less power. This is also the reason why the huge freight trucks who redline at around 1500RPM seamingly make so little power while having huge torque numbers.

    • @lazar2175
      @lazar2175 6 лет назад +20

      @@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 The torque and the power are tied together.

    • @mattpashley5493
      @mattpashley5493 6 лет назад +5

      @@WryJab bullshit i only got 335bhp outta my 330d 245bhp e92 with a few hardware mods no way u got that. Show us a graph from rolling road

  • @SD-tj5dh
    @SD-tj5dh 6 лет назад +55

    1) seeing comparisons on a dyno for actual before/after figures would have made this more credible.
    2) the m3 you tested isn't stripped out, so why should we lose the interior in Gareth? It's no longer directly comparable to the m3.
    3) your mates thumb still has enough margin for error that your lap performances are also barely credible.
    4) for a show with a budget like yours I would expect far more accurate comparisons to individual mods.
    This segment is really frustrating because I really want to see genuine proof of improvements for each modification. Lap times, g meters, dyno's. Numbers will prove your shop gear is worth a damn

    • @CaptGreyBeard
      @CaptGreyBeard 6 лет назад +1

      Scott Dann that’s why it will never happen

    • @starshape6650
      @starshape6650 6 лет назад +2

      2) It wasn't comparable to the M3 in the first place, since it's a Diesel Estate car... Plus they lost the interior on the IS 200 and that helped a lot.

    • @SD-tj5dh
      @SD-tj5dh 6 лет назад +4

      @@starshape6650 I would rather see the car almost make it with a full interior than just beat it with no interior. I guess I want to see it as still an everyday daily driver still.

    • @23gatesy
      @23gatesy 5 лет назад

      How big do you think their budget is. It's a fun video not a scientific experiment.

    • @Gonken88
      @Gonken88 4 года назад

      @@23gatesy Well the channel is worth around $1 million and Alex is worth $86 million as of 2020, so I'd say they're not exactly on as tight of a budget as many of their shows seem to suggest. Then again, they may want to keep the material closer to their viewers than to themselves.

  • @MasterBolitz
    @MasterBolitz 6 лет назад +328

    USE PROPER TIMING SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it makes no sense doing it with iphone timer

    • @WeirdBrick
      @WeirdBrick 6 лет назад +16

      Yep i love these vids but that part is a huge fail! Wouldnt be hard at all to get a vbox and measure the lap times! Im sure they have one but probably dont know the feature is on there(the gps maps any track you want to make)

    • @randomname839
      @randomname839 6 лет назад

      MasterBolitz seriously

    • @maxdengler7580
      @maxdengler7580 6 лет назад +4

      Or just use the date from the camera at the start?

    • @DANEX7799
      @DANEX7799 6 лет назад +8

      If they do so, how they could increase time with this tuning?🤔

    • @Rusiputki
      @Rusiputki 6 лет назад +13

      the times are fake anyway, it's like watching Top Gear guest laps.

  • @Dim4ik2012
    @Dim4ik2012 4 года назад +2

    Guys, 2 years past and THIS is still MY FAVORITE youtube series

  • @hughjarse4627
    @hughjarse4627 6 лет назад +147

    Get it mapped you mincer

  • @HkBgNuiB
    @HkBgNuiB 6 лет назад +5

    Just found this series today and binged it all wondering when the next one was coming

  • @Dan88888
    @Dan88888 6 лет назад +116

    I’m after some biceps like those on Gareth, but can’t find them on the car throttle shop??

    • @wiliambanquiter8039
      @wiliambanquiter8039 6 лет назад +5

      @SDD525 racecars run on e85...

    • @zippycentral
      @zippycentral 6 лет назад +5

      Check in the steroid section.....

    • @maarten332
      @maarten332 6 лет назад +3

      You can save your money and buy them 2nd hand in a mortuary.

  • @wgcgav
    @wgcgav 6 лет назад +1

    Had one of these from tdi tuning uk on my old golf gt tdi, 2 injectors died 4 months later, mechanic said it was because of this box and a proper map would’ve been a lot safer

  • @Gochsener
    @Gochsener 6 лет назад +36

    my 2.0 TDI is getting an optimization next friday from a very experienced tuner. can't wait! way better than these data cheating, non individual devices. my tuner is setting up the boost, fuel amount, security stuff, ignition timing with petrols, have it dynoed etc. for not much more money than the expensive race chip. and the cheap ones suck even more. and you don't see a software change, while this box is right in your face.

    • @slowdriver6868
      @slowdriver6868 6 лет назад

      Sick!

    • @Vellinga94
      @Vellinga94 6 лет назад

      Went from 180hp and 400Nm to 250hp and 600Nm. Stage 1. 2.7TDI

    • @Twigsterify
      @Twigsterify 6 лет назад

      I did it with my dads, golf GTD, I myself have GTI. Both mark 7 the GTD is know faster with a whopping 225 HP and 460 nm of torque its insane

    • @Twigsterify
      @Twigsterify 6 лет назад

      40.000 miles further with the dsg gtd and still no problems. Its at 80k miles now

  • @soulforsale2834
    @soulforsale2834 6 лет назад +9

    Ethan’s face when a faster lap is done is priceless XD

  • @MR2Sensei
    @MR2Sensei 6 лет назад +499

    Used to enjoy this series... now is getting a joke... no dyno proof , as we know and being tested , these chips are bs..... but yeah , you sell them on your shop... ffs , stop taking times with an iphone and get proper tools...

    • @timmeh101851
      @timmeh101851 6 лет назад +5

      I think you maybe missing the point...this isn't BTCC

    • @MR2Sensei
      @MR2Sensei 6 лет назад +42

      @@timmeh101851 you are missing the point. Here they talk about IMPROVING the performance of a car. You have to prove that properly when you are a "car show" .

    • @Orvieta
      @Orvieta 6 лет назад +12

      Indeed the moment a chip comes with "engine warranty" I roll my eyes, there's no way they can do that. With more power comes more wear, on all components.

    •  6 лет назад +10

      @daniel guta chips actually work on turbo dieselt unlike those 20€ ebay chips for your civic

    • @MR2Sensei
      @MR2Sensei 6 лет назад +16

      @ 1. I don't own a civic.
      2. No dyno test , no proof.
      3. You have no idea how these "chips" work :)

  • @mickstick2830
    @mickstick2830 Год назад

    People who doubt any of these , i have the last version of the 330D e91 with the M57 engine , 6 speed manual and X-drive , with option to turn it off. Absolutely quick cars ! 316 hp and 750Nm on a stage 2 tune and downpipe/Egr delete / Swirl flaps. Sad thing is tho, after this , you need to spend A LOT of money to find a worthy UPGRADE. SO better keep it :D

  • @BMWE90HQ
    @BMWE90HQ 6 лет назад +276

    Flash>piggyback I would never put one in my car.

    • @waifuracer6516
      @waifuracer6516 6 лет назад +16

      If you have the money, go ahead, but if someone just wants to have fun on the budget, chips will do. Its not killing your engine, thats a hefty lie. I wrote it above but I write it again, my neighbour has a mk2 octavia 1.9tdi pd fitted with a chip at around 200k miles, now its on 367k and still no issues whatsoever, chip increased the power from 105hp and 250nm to 120hp and 300nm and all that for 79 pounds instead of the 300 pound remap. Not everyone has the budget to just get a remap.

    • @sergeantspeed5941
      @sergeantspeed5941 6 лет назад +55

      @@waifuracer6516 totally ignoring the fact that it's a generic tune that doesn't follow the proper mapping. These things are notorious for both overfueling and under fueling. Proper tuning makes sure the ECU follows the fuel mapping the tuner set, which is specifically set for that exact motor. Why would you risk fuel washing the cylinders, or burning the rings just to save a couple hundred dollars, when a rebuild is roughly a couple thousand?
      Your logic is flawed. Save your pennies for a few months and get the right tune.

    • @waifuracer6516
      @waifuracer6516 6 лет назад +4

      You are the one ignoring the facts here not me. If it didnt cause any issue under 167k miles, than why do you still think its gonna fuck the engine? Also who in the right mind rebuilds an engine that is used for commuting, when you can buy complete engines off of ebay for under 1k especially for cars like the octavia that is litterally everywhere, the parts are everywhere and since there are a lot the prices are quiet low... Of course I wouldnt chip a car like an A6 2.5 because that engine is a pain in the ass to begin with and if it blows a new engine is costly as well but with a 330d or an octavia? nah man. Chill

    • @sergeantspeed5941
      @sergeantspeed5941 6 лет назад +13

      @@waifuracer6516 bahaha you're telling Me to chill when you're going through the comments telling everyone they're wrong, you literally just ignored FACTS with your anecdotal evidence. That's called straw man.
      Run along straw man.

    • @sergeantspeed5941
      @sergeantspeed5941 6 лет назад +2

      @@waifuracer6516 this video was recently released, with the chip installed. That's not 167k
      Go ahead and ignore my warning, and keep washing those cylinder walls. I'm sure just because you don't notice the compression loss immediately it certainly isn't happening.. riiiighhttt

  • @mic_4931
    @mic_4931 6 лет назад

    I love the fact that u took an old, cheap and reliable car and showed that to have fun you don't need an expensive car

  • @lipozor
    @lipozor 6 лет назад +46

    Preprogramed Piggy Box is very much BS.Declared HP increase never going to happen.But anyway I enjoyed this advertisement,hopefully you will go on rollers and see reality on dyno tune.Keep it up good work!

    • @rizawibawa5824
      @rizawibawa5824 6 лет назад +3

      WellWisher proper tune is much much better though.. but what about JB tuning? A lot of people done it and makes a lot of number for 320i 328i 335i (turbo gasoline)

    • @davidkilner207
      @davidkilner207 6 лет назад

      drag strip testing would've been adequate

  • @lukamoric9300
    @lukamoric9300 6 лет назад

    Hi there, my name is Luke and I'm really proud of your time and work on Gareth. I want to say that i have been watching every single video that you make and I'm thankful for helping me get over my deppression

  • @ramenking8473
    @ramenking8473 6 лет назад +93

    Put a new diff on Garreth

    • @RatDog
      @RatDog 6 лет назад +16

      I dont think they will. They can't sell them on their store

    • @martijntalma
      @martijntalma 6 лет назад +2

      And a new better flowing exhaust!

    • @duvobikes3953
      @duvobikes3953 6 лет назад

      weld it

    • @lui2k183
      @lui2k183 6 лет назад

      U need to weld it if u want to drift not to race

    • @Sspencerr02
      @Sspencerr02 6 лет назад

      DUVO Bikes why weld a diff on a track car 😂😂

  • @danielthomas2621
    @danielthomas2621 6 лет назад +26

    That's great but where's the new V6 MX-5???

  • @harisnp99
    @harisnp99 6 лет назад +22

    That poor turbo you can hear it screaming to death after some rounds. That heatsoak loses more than 10hp. You should improve the cooling if your going for more power.

  • @russellmasters5764
    @russellmasters5764 3 года назад +1

    Of course they missed the biggest upgrade opportunity ... give Alex some race driving training. That’s not a snippy comment, would genuinely be interesting to see how much faster he could go with just improving his own race software

  • @martinkolew2419
    @martinkolew2419 6 лет назад +74

    Hybrid turbo injectors front mounted intercooler and it goes like a spaceship

    • @MrSchorschschorsch
      @MrSchorschschorsch 6 лет назад +7

      a) it already has a front mounted intercooler (where else would it go?)
      b) the turbo is actually pretty sophisticated (VNT and all)
      c) the injectors aren't the problem since it's not a gasoline powered car.

    • @BMWE90HQ
      @BMWE90HQ 6 лет назад +10

      And a real tune

    • @BMWE90HQ
      @BMWE90HQ 6 лет назад +1

      MrSchorschschorsch it would go where the stock one is. Lol new to modding cars ?

    • @NoName-oh6pc
      @NoName-oh6pc 6 лет назад

      @@MrSchorschschorsch Top mount intercoolers do exist...

    • @martinkolew2419
      @martinkolew2419 6 лет назад +2

      @@BMWE90HQ yeah it really needs a real duno tune, but they cant sell a dyno tune on their store.

  • @e30tomas54
    @e30tomas54 6 лет назад

    I did in my 2004 330d dyno run, and it made 222HP stock. Changed IC for bigger one and re-mapped it and it gave me nice 280HP. Great engine. Loved this car so much... Unfortunately wrecked it and almost killed myself. I miss her so much...

  • @JP-ug1xr
    @JP-ug1xr 6 лет назад +43

    When does Garreth get a LSD? Get that diesel grrrrrunt some 2 wheel gription goodness!

    • @Mr_Kurosaki
      @Mr_Kurosaki 6 лет назад +2

      they don't sell those...

    • @jebbush8491
      @jebbush8491 6 лет назад +2

      I think that's against RUclips's guidelines.

    • @bishoos123
      @bishoos123 6 лет назад

      @@jebbush8491 what is against youtube guidlines.

    • @bishoos123
      @bishoos123 6 лет назад +2

      @@jebbush8491 a car diffrential is against youtube guidelines.

    • @r129r16pfl
      @r129r16pfl 6 лет назад

      Will not make much difference if any, and it's a costly upgrade.

  • @richardboggon6639
    @richardboggon6639 6 лет назад +17

    Schlurp, schlurp..instead of just guzzling sponsorship schlong, how about explaining how the magic box actually works? Like, how does it effect the mapping to increase power, for example? Previously, there was close attention to detail with some really good technical people explaining suspension setup, but here there seems to be no explanation of how the plug-in is functioning. It's hard not to conclude that you're selling out somewhat.

    • @CaptGreyBeard
      @CaptGreyBeard 6 лет назад +2

      richard boggon This. It’s painful watching some of these nowadays, like the days of Clarkson Top Gear, it will probably never be as good from here on out

  • @NC750X
    @NC750X 6 лет назад +13

    Yes mate I do like these different series of videos.
    Spot on

  •  6 лет назад +3

    Had something similar to this chip box (I think it was called KCR Diesel) to try for free on my M57D25 E39. These boxes do make difference, but in my case it was pretty shitty. Yes, the car felt quicker and the throttle response was better, but other than that the engine had strangely more vibration and also fuel consumption has gotten from 8/100km to about 10.5/100km. So I guess these will never be as good as a proper dyno'ed remap

  • @harrywight7964
    @harrywight7964 6 лет назад +17

    we want phil back !!

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 6 лет назад +1

    Wish you'd do these runs with a rolling start - say, idle speed in 1st. That would eliminate inconsistencies with your clutch work - and make the results more useful.

  • @nate7906
    @nate7906 6 лет назад +40

    Get the car tuned on a dyno. Not a silly chip.

  • @aaronpederson7910
    @aaronpederson7910 6 лет назад +1

    If it's AT ALL POSSIBLE to get ahold of an E46 M3 it would make a solid benchmark to this endeavour as well.
    It would be impressive to see Garreth match an E46 M3 in time around this (now famous and world renown) track.

  • @iea96
    @iea96 6 лет назад +8

    When he said it was something people have been crying out for in the comments, I thought he would introduce a proper lap timer :(

  • @PicardZ4
    @PicardZ4 5 лет назад

    Real-world case study: Tried RaceChip for an F30 328i N20. Threw codes and produced odd burning smell from under hood. There was a power bump but I was concerned about the side effects. Was returned for tweaking by reseller. Same result. Lost trust in the product. It seemed to be turning up the boost to produce power in an unsophisticated fashion. Binned it and went for an ECU tune, Bootmod3. No codes and no burning smell. Have gone from Stage 1 now to Stage 2 without complications.
    In conclusion, if you want refinement from your tune and perhaps better longevity, it’s an ECU tune not a piggy back. For me, it’s BM3 for the win...
    PS - I am not sponsored by either.

  • @bpatryk69
    @bpatryk69 6 лет назад +13

    Oh I see, so they won't do a remap because they won't be able to sell it on their website, it starts to make sense!

  • @mohamedatef2383
    @mohamedatef2383 5 лет назад

    This series is so much entertainment and so educational, I learned a lot about suspension and mechanics than how my Engineering school taught me (CS major !).
    Thanks a lot !!!

  • @nikoszaxaris2895
    @nikoszaxaris2895 6 лет назад +58

    so were supposed to believe that this bullshit changed something without showing us the car on the dyno . alirght

    • @oiled_grapes2993
      @oiled_grapes2993 5 лет назад +3

      thing is this stuff actually works, it's worth the small price compared to other modifications

    • @23gatesy
      @23gatesy 5 лет назад +1

      It's not that difficult to believe

    • @raygud
      @raygud 4 года назад

      yes this needs dyno test,

  • @CineeK911
    @CineeK911 6 лет назад

    Because of these series of videos, I'm actually looking for 330d to buy. This is addictive

  • @villho
    @villho 6 лет назад +4

    It’s friday and RUclips feed was showing already-seen videos.... until.... Gareth!

  • @CryMoar_
    @CryMoar_ 6 лет назад

    This is the best mini series you’ve done Alex

  • @doit_vehicles
    @doit_vehicles 6 лет назад +13

    Few more episodes and you guys are going to make it like an M5

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 6 лет назад +1

    I'm confused, if the chip tune really did knock a whole second off the 0-60 time, then how come the overall lap time was only 0.44 seconds faster?
    Somethings not adding up there... unless the maximum speed on the lap is under 60mph??

  • @pjagger69
    @pjagger69 6 лет назад +6

    When are you going to paint some go faster stripes on and kill all lap records by weeks.

  • @jzx100jlp4
    @jzx100jlp4 2 года назад

    Lads come on get the 330d project up and going again such a fun project as the gains are epic. GARETH needs some more tuning

  • @m98alissa
    @m98alissa 6 лет назад +3

    His reactions to the chip reminded me of their car salesmen video 😁😂

  • @USA4thewin
    @USA4thewin 5 лет назад

    just proves that more power is always the answer

  • @spencersnursery1547
    @spencersnursery1547 6 лет назад +4

    When car throttle uploads it's like an event

  • @p0s3s3sD
    @p0s3s3sD 6 лет назад

    Well I had an Audi A6 Quattro 2.7 tdi Stock 170hp with the Race Chip supposedly 220hp I never dyno tested it but you could DEfinetely feel a huge difference the pull overall was really much much better.

  • @mrlilmatt123
    @mrlilmatt123 6 лет назад +5

    240HP is a very low number for one of these! Could've easily gone more with a similar remap

    • @joshuarosen6242
      @joshuarosen6242 5 лет назад +1

      Until recently I had a C350 CDI and that had 240BHP stock. 240 doesn't sound particularly impressive.

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman 6 лет назад

    I was at this circuit yesterday! It's so much more engaging to see you drive it knowing how it feels.

  • @MinhalQ
    @MinhalQ 6 лет назад +5

    You need new tires .. all those laps, thread is most likely wearing off.. those race tires aren't made to last too long...

  • @HexlGaming
    @HexlGaming 6 лет назад

    i love that you're building an actually quicker, safer, handier and more stable car instead of just making it a rocket that's trying to kill you every time you look away.. :)

  • @asztaloszoltan2001
    @asztaloszoltan2001 6 лет назад +38

    Poot it on a dyno and show it! I don't believe in these plug in power modules! 99% Of them don`t work!

    • @OG-97
      @OG-97 5 лет назад +1

      go look yourself? plenty of videos on the internet

    • @rauliod23
      @rauliod23 4 года назад +1

      asztaloszoltan2001 I have the GTS black in my 2014 BMW M5 and from 560hp from the stock engine after I dyno it it went to 715hp

    • @Liam94Smith
      @Liam94Smith 4 года назад +2

      Poot? 😂 Just look on RUclips

  • @thatoneguy454c
    @thatoneguy454c 11 месяцев назад

    So, running the course over and over again can account for that much improvement by itself. There is a reason that the straight line acceleration test is the best way to visualize an increase in HP and Ft Lbs. Nothing has changed with the car other than the "tune" so a straight line or a dyno would have been a much better indication.

  • @josephluna4949
    @josephluna4949 6 лет назад +3

    smaking the wheel adds +50 horsepower

  • @leer5858
    @leer5858 6 лет назад

    I've had my XF-S 3.0 TTD V6 remapped from 271bhp to 325bhp, 600nm to 700nm, not a huge boost as it is already tuned by Jag over the standard model. That said, it is noticeably faster than before plus it's had one of those exhaust mods which increase power quite bit :D

  • @thundasean42
    @thundasean42 6 лет назад +8

    I love the 330d want to do my own👍🏼
    Like Number 1😄

  • @sarcastixx74
    @sarcastixx74 6 лет назад

    Taking out the interior of any E46 has a dramatic effect on the grunt. I got taken out in a stripped out E46 track prepped car when I last picked up my car from being serviced and the difference was astonishing. CF doors and panels all round, roll cage, usual coilovers and BBK, but currently stock power on the unit. I swear this thing could easily hit 60 in well under 5 secs with a good launch. After taking the heavy seats and liners out ol' gareth will possibly have nearly another 3/4 of a sec to shave off that lap time, taking it well within a midges' nad off that stock E92 time! Be very interesting to see the result. Making me look again at those Sparco R333 race seats now...

  • @bazzyg
    @bazzyg 6 лет назад +5

    Went to the shop. They only do it for diesel and turbo models. I've got a 330Ci so you can't chip a NA.

    • @bazzyg
      @bazzyg 6 лет назад

      Thanks for the advice. What do you think about a CAI? Any noticeable gains there?

    • @DanielStancex
      @DanielStancex 6 лет назад

      Not really any improvements on N/A cars with chip. Minimal gains and maybe raised RPM limit.
      CAI makes little to no difference.
      If you want to try get some power you should get aftermarket headers, cat delete etc etc.
      If you have the money, supercharger is also an alternative. ESS has some good ones.

    • @MashO356
      @MashO356 6 лет назад

      Don't know if the coupe is different but a manual 330i touring has a 2.94:1

    • @JusTCheap15
      @JusTCheap15 6 лет назад

      zeroyon223 put a downpipe in it with remap maybe 20 hp

  • @DvK1908
    @DvK1908 6 лет назад

    Chiptuning on diesels is amazing, we had A Volvo V70 D5 summum and after the tune we had 235 whp

  • @Raul-yd8yg
    @Raul-yd8yg 6 лет назад +8

    Who else can't wait for that weight reduction??!

  • @matto2k9
    @matto2k9 6 лет назад

    its not just a generic map for the 3000 cars this is available for, its been dyno'd for each engine, no get it right, its been dyno'd for possibly a handful of the same engine but not each individual engine therefore results will vary and why a proper remap at roughly the same cost will always be a much better option

  • @allodumi
    @allodumi 6 лет назад +33

    Why no a complet chip tuning by obd??? This is a stupid thuning and not eficient like a normal remap ....

    • @wik1613
      @wik1613 6 лет назад +7

      allodumi because it’s not on the Car Throttle shop

    • @allodumi
      @allodumi 6 лет назад +1

      WP sad....

  • @yesway
    @yesway 6 лет назад

    Editor is a real madlad at 2:18

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 6 лет назад +4

    I don't want to sound like an ass but a 30% increase in power is a bit optimistic for a chip tune. Unless BMW are really incompetent in tuning a car properly that is.

    • @StuTubed
      @StuTubed 6 лет назад +2

      Depends. Most manufacturers detune their engines slightly to comply with emissions/noise regulations, make it more reliable and resilient against lower quality fuels, and sometime to keep the car within a power bracket so that it doesn't compete with a better specc'd car.

    • @tomholton235
      @tomholton235 6 лет назад

      That’s pretty realistic for most turbo diesels for a proper dyno tune.

    • @gofres
      @gofres 6 лет назад

      The 30% figure applies to torque not power. He got it wrong. Power gains are around 8~10%

  • @gareth_ross
    @gareth_ross 6 лет назад

    Glad to see Gareth is still doing well

  • @mehdimahoui9295
    @mehdimahoui9295 6 лет назад +10

    DYNO THIS THING AND THAN WE'LL Talk STOP The Marketing BS

  • @sandvicheatfresh
    @sandvicheatfresh 6 лет назад

    bucket seats so you aren't thrown around a lot.
    minor weight reduction e.g. removing the roof rack things which will also make the car a bit more aerodynamic
    filter the pumps/pipes which may clog up over time e.g. fuel ones
    install new spark plugs and clean air filters.

  • @kvd1m
    @kvd1m 6 лет назад +5

    Torque isn't that informative as power. Long story short, F1 cars (about 670Nm) and Yamaha R1 (100Nm) have ridiculously low torque and diesel trucks (3500Nm) have it insane. The reason is that for example that e46 diesel engine has the redline at 5000rpm and petrol at 6500rpm. So lets just say they have exactly the same top speed (65km/h) at 1st gear. That means that with every 1000rpm the diesel engine will accelerate 13km/h and the petrol only 10km/h. So the diesel engine is handicapped as the gear ratio for the same top speed has to be lower as the petrol engine. For an "average torque" of 650Nm on the wheels with a diesel engine, the car will accelerate exactly the same as an "average torque" of 650/6500*5000 = 500Nm on the wheels with a petrol.... More over the diesel is twice handicapped as it delivers the maximum torque between 2000 and 4000rpm meanwhile the petrol gives it almost constant in all the range of the rpms... So with diesel engine is sometimes better to shift at 4500rpm instead of 5000rpm just because the torque from 4500 to 5000rpm is ridiculously low. My e46 330CI (231hp and 300Nm) does stock 0-100km/h in 6,5 sec. Exactly the same as the tunned Gareth, but after 200km/h my stock 330CI will smash that diesel, as it will go on the high revs. and the diesel will loose power and torque and even his dignity

    • @codenamecordon
      @codenamecordon 6 лет назад

      Kmn Dmt then explain to me, how did a civic type-R keep up with a modified 330dA up to ~180km/h and then start falling behind, and even more so as the speed went up past 200km/h?

    • @kvd1m
      @kvd1m 6 лет назад

      Well, I'm comparing petrol and diesel engines for the same type of car. If that type-R has more aggressive aerodinamycs or just less power, it will definitely lose agains the modified e46. If you compare 300hp diesel with 200hp petrol, the diesel will win. Also the type-R has less weight and less weight helps a lot on the start but not that much at high speed. At high speed you need power and aerodinamycs. Maybe that e46 was just more powerful and the type-R lighter. But my petrol e46 and the Gareth have more or less the same power, so in a drag race the petrol engine has advantige. If both cars have to pull a lorry, the diesel will do it better than the petrol, as the diesel has more torque

  • @Luke_NorseSpeed
    @Luke_NorseSpeed 6 лет назад +1

    Perfect hype video for my autocross tomorrow morning!

  • @Sarin-Dan
    @Sarin-Dan 6 лет назад +3

    Probably won't get taken notice of but.......... How about some professional tuition? I mean bouncing off the kerbs must be slower than actually having the tyre in contact with the asphalt.

    • @RobiB95
      @RobiB95 6 лет назад +1

      Dan gould exactly!!

    • @Sarin-Dan
      @Sarin-Dan 6 лет назад +1

      @@RobiB95 I'm sure their could be 2 seconds easily by tidying up lines.....

    • @RobiB95
      @RobiB95 6 лет назад

      Dan gould I must say he sucks att driving, he has driven that track hundred of times, he better know the lines now.... I’ve been to couple trackdays, learned the track quite fast lol

    • @Sarin-Dan
      @Sarin-Dan 6 лет назад +1

      @@RobiB95 yea I feel the same.... I pick up lines quickly but then again I'm on an R6 so a bit different

    • @RobiB95
      @RobiB95 6 лет назад +1

      Dan gould Glad someone has their mind in the right place haha ;)

  • @jodyh4805
    @jodyh4805 6 лет назад

    I think there is a lot of people bitching in these comments “why don’t you just buy an m3 e46” “not a rolling road though” etc, I think you’re missing the point, he’s trying to show you in a really simple way how much difference basic mods make, the stuff almost all Car guys have dabbled with or attempted on their own cars at some point. I think it’s a good laugh! Yes it’s not truly accurate but it’s a bit of fun.... and shows what difference each mods ROUGHLY make. Pretty down to earth guy, if it was a bean in a lab coat I’d have switched to another video/channel within 1 minute.
    Good work car throttle !

  • @berticusmaximus00
    @berticusmaximus00 6 лет назад +6

    Now turbo it to 70 psi so you can make 1500 ft lbs!

  • @dazaro3
    @dazaro3 6 лет назад +1

    You should have put the car on a Dyno so we can see the increase of torque and horsepower , would have been proof it works.

  • @lume.3887
    @lume.3887 6 лет назад +6

    ecu tuning only pls

  • @avgFloridian
    @avgFloridian 6 лет назад +2

    I'd love to see a dollar per second statistic at the end of these builds. Obviously it doesn't take fun into account, but it's interesting to see how much it costs to get a car X amount faster.

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Год назад

      considering the cost between a 90-series M car cost and a 1500 dollar m46 diesel, the cost is negligible. as in, you could probably build several of these cars in comparison to a 90sM

  • @yondaimehokage3343
    @yondaimehokage3343 6 лет назад +4

    its a nurburgring family wagon car,dun expect stripping interior,lol

  • @gianmadridiv
    @gianmadridiv 6 лет назад

    Who needs so much tools to access an ECU?
    Only reason why I like car throttle

  • @superben2000
    @superben2000 6 лет назад +5

    timing boxes are for noobs... odb tune is superior in virtually every respect.

  • @finn_dann
    @finn_dann 6 лет назад

    Next time on Project E46: Alex strips Gareth forcefully, then proceeds to go inside him without consent. He firmly grips Gareth's stick, relentlessly moving it back and forth as he pushes Gareth further than he's ever been before.

  • @junglejim8781
    @junglejim8781 6 лет назад +8

    When are you gonna spend money on driver training?

  • @AndreasSchwarzinger
    @AndreasSchwarzinger 6 лет назад

    Regarding the „warranty“ of the Racechip: I urge you to read the warranty details because most of the times race track use of the vehicle is explicitly excluded in the warranty - something worth mentioning to consumers!

  • @transport21
    @transport21 6 лет назад +13

    The chip made no difference
    Your welcome

  • @CallOfDoodeh
    @CallOfDoodeh 6 лет назад

    I tested a Racechip Ultimate (now changed the name to GTS Black) on my Seat Ibiza Cupra 192 PS... and it was running 9 psi prior to the chip and 14.35 psi after the chip. Revo claim their remaps run at around 14.5 psi, so it’s pretty damn close!
    Also, a dyno run showed that power increased from 189bhp to 246bhp! Running premium unleaded and an upgraded intake as well.
    Having said that, my friend used one on his N54 335i and had misfiring issues and constant management lights...

  • @jerher4604
    @jerher4604 6 лет назад +17

    Those have to be the ugliest wheels I’ve seen in some time.

    • @TomMowbrayPrivate
      @TomMowbrayPrivate 5 лет назад +1

      Those wheels look great, bro, are you good?

    • @JGreen444
      @JGreen444 4 года назад

      @@TomMowbrayPrivate They're ugly

  • @Domnaek
    @Domnaek 6 лет назад

    simply one of the best intros Ive ever seen. ever

  • @carsaremything.3051
    @carsaremything.3051 6 лет назад +3

    I want to see this chip vs a manufactor chip who want to see it too :P ??

  • @karpetcm
    @karpetcm 6 лет назад

    I do commend you for the effort thats for sure. As many times that you’ve driven that track with your 330, same amount of seat time and you will run faster in the M3. Faster cars are harder to drive fast around a track. Traction being one issue due to much more power. After your done with your 330 you should really invest a few days in the M3 idf the owner allows and you’ll see you can run fast then a 37.07. Im not biased to either car but seat time in a car is HUGE.