3 Shocking Garage Fires Involving Electric Vehicles

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
  • An electric vehicle burning in a garage can be a terrifying experience, and in this video, we'll explore three different incidents involving garage fires and electric vehicles. From battery failures to the challenges faced by firefighters, we'll uncover the hidden dangers of charging electric vehicles. Stay tuned to learn more about these shocking incidents and why it's crucial to take precautions when charging your EV. Don't forget to subscribe for more eye-opening videos like this!
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    Incident 1: • Electric Vehicle Fire
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:32 - Colorado EV (I-Pace) Garage Fire
    03:30 - Special Announcement
    04:16 - 2024 Michigan (Tesla) Electric Vehicle Garage Fire
    05:39 - 2023 Michigan (Tesla) Electric Vehicle Garage Fire

Комментарии • 445

  • @StacheDTraining
    @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +25

    I apologize - Voice audio is only on the left channel due to an editing error.

    • @JUNGLEISMASSIVE.
      @JUNGLEISMASSIVE. 6 месяцев назад +4

      No worries we heard you loud and clear.

    • @LantanaLiz
      @LantanaLiz 6 месяцев назад

      The sound is fine. I thought I heard them say in that video that the tow trucks were also owned by their fire department specifically for this sort of event? I can't see them endangering members of the public with such a procedure, so it'd make sense that it's all in house for the tow trucks and drivers.

  • @greatalaska6429
    @greatalaska6429 6 месяцев назад +63

    I like to keep the house extra warm during the winter, but not that warm.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 месяцев назад

      I think it was just trying to heat the batteries 🤔

  • @stevenikitas8170
    @stevenikitas8170 6 месяцев назад +99

    Every one of these EV fires is a toxic, hazmat situation. Where are the environmentalists to protest? How much does each one of those blankets cost?

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 6 месяцев назад +21

      Not just the cost of the blanket but also all that PPE and breathing aparatus

    • @seattlesix9953
      @seattlesix9953 6 месяцев назад +2

      Executive back room response… sucks to be you

    • @jeffreycheng5984
      @jeffreycheng5984 6 месяцев назад

      "If you want to see how much of a fraud green energy is, take the time to view the documentary Planet Of The Humans."- Dane Wigington.

    • @Livurdreamsawake
      @Livurdreamsawake 6 месяцев назад +7

      You would think Elon would love our world. Too bad he thinks he's god.

    • @delanorrosey4730
      @delanorrosey4730 6 месяцев назад +15

      *$3,500 - $4,500 per.

  • @DCGreenZone
    @DCGreenZone 6 месяцев назад +68

    Are manufacturers liable for the damage, or are our homeowner's insurance rates going to double and triple.

    • @DownEastSaw
      @DownEastSaw 6 месяцев назад

      Manufacturers are not liable for damages that their products cause after purchase, unless gross negligence can be proven. NO, Tesla/porsche/chevy/etc are not going to pay for your burned down house.
      Please open your eyes to the truth through research about the reality of electric cars. Then spread that truth. We don’t need the governments spending their citizens money to force the production of dangerous, ineffective “environmental” transportation.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 6 месяцев назад +13

      you already KNOW the answer...

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone 6 месяцев назад

      @@CosmicSeeker69 Not to worry, Leon will start an AI homeowner's insurance company that will fix everything. I promise.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 6 месяцев назад +6

      rate increase... INCOMING...!!!

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone 6 месяцев назад +6

      How many Toyota Prius with the Nickel Metal Hydride IIRC battery set themselves on broil. Wait until the rolling toaster ovens aka Cybertrucks set themselves on broil.

  • @GKMW538j
    @GKMW538j 6 месяцев назад +36

    Seems very dangerous to move while still on fire. Drivers on road exposed to burning lithium fumes.

    • @James_Bee
      @James_Bee 6 месяцев назад +1

      As opposed to exhaust fumes from the numerous other vehicles?
      While covered in the fire blanket and moving, the fumes are probably barely, if at all, making it into your vehicle.
      The initial fire did more harm, fume wise, to the neighborhood and it's residents than traffic along its route.
      Fumes aside, moving it while thermal runaway is a possibility, is very risky.

    • @BlacKnightRising
      @BlacKnightRising 6 месяцев назад

      yea? well there's no person to date that suffers from actual lung damage from ICE cars, unliket people exposed to burning teslas toxic black smoke resulting in permanent lung damage, so nice try shill@@James_Bee

  • @seattlesix9953
    @seattlesix9953 6 месяцев назад +12

    The channel’s growth is due to being in the right place at the right time.

    • @Y2Kvids
      @Y2Kvids 6 месяцев назад +1

      There would be a lot more content if it covered ICE fires .

    • @James_Bee
      @James_Bee 6 месяцев назад +1

      *gives you a captains hat*
      You are no longer just "Mr. Obvious".

    • @youngroosevelt38
      @youngroosevelt38 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Y2Kvids
      Yeah but everyone knows about ice fires and what can cause them. Plus you can find that anywhere. Ev fires are different and new and he's a firefighter.

    • @DHW256
      @DHW256 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Y2Kvids I've experienced many ICE car fires because I work on/restore very old, worn-out cars. I keep extinguishers in all my cars, including three new ICE cars, the older daily driver ICE car, and the two 100 year-old ICE cars. I've never had to call a fire department to help me with any car fire, and no ICE car fire has lasted more than a few seconds. Only once did one of those fires require a rated extinguisher, and it required a squirt lasting about 1/4 second.
      It's almost infinitely easier to extinguish an ICE fire than it is an EV fire, because agents have almost immediate access to ICE car fire fuels. Sadly, firefighters typically have ZERO access to fuel sources in EVs, so the dominate methodology for dealing with EV fires is to "let them burn themselves out." In other words, comparing ICE car fires to EV car fires is like comparing apples to buffalo turds. This problem has been widely known for many decades now.
      Seeing how Ford was forced to recall about 15 million ICE cars due to an electrical problem that _could_ cause a fire, I think it's time to recall the EVs that carry the inherent risk of fire due to faulty design. Oh, wait, that would require all EVs and their battery components to be recalled!, and there's no fix for them!

  • @Diogenes425
    @Diogenes425 6 месяцев назад +8

    Sooner or later the insurance companies are going to wake up & put a halt to those EV firetraps!

  • @SuperMassman
    @SuperMassman 6 месяцев назад +35

    ☝️😑 QUESTION: what about the house itself AFTER the garage fire? Toxic fumes entering the wood, insulation, rugs, walls etc... has anyone tested for toxins?

    • @Smokkedandslammed
      @Smokkedandslammed 6 месяцев назад +8

      That's what we call "free extra flavor!"

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 6 месяцев назад

      All house fires are toxic.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 6 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly, and I am sure the homes and neighborhoods that were passed by the smoldering EV convoy were not made aware of the smokey trail of toxicity.

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s 6 месяцев назад +3

      It’s no different than a regular car fire, or setting your couch on fire. It’s all toxic.

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@markthomas207all fires are toxic, get real.

  • @jimharrow8104
    @jimharrow8104 6 месяцев назад +5

    Why are insurance companies insuring these electric bombs ???

    • @alxgu198
      @alxgu198 6 месяцев назад +1

      Because they can just charge everyone else more, to offset their losses 🤷.

  • @drunkbuzzard3237
    @drunkbuzzard3237 6 месяцев назад +4

    Rapid unscheduled disassembly

  • @kevinW826
    @kevinW826 6 месяцев назад +7

    Don’t forget about the EV bus fire in Manchester UK last Thursday. It had people on the bus.

    • @SuperBartet
      @SuperBartet 6 месяцев назад

      "@kevinW826
      2 hours ago
      Don’t forget about the EV bus fire in Manchester UK last Thursday. It had people on the bus." I have not heard about this one, I know two EV bus's exploded in London last week. If you have a link to the info, please share.

    • @kevinW826
      @kevinW826 6 месяцев назад

      @@SuperBartet the RUclips channel MGUY, a lawyer from the UK living in Australia posted a video on Friday morning with footage from the bus fire. It was a follow up to this Jaguar I-Pace fire.

    • @yodaiam1000
      @yodaiam1000 6 месяцев назад

      Don't forget about the Luton ICE car fire or the Freemantle ICE car fire. There was one died and others injured.

    • @tubewayarmy2
      @tubewayarmy2 6 месяцев назад

      Luton was a battery fire on an electric diesel hybrid.

    • @yodaiam1000
      @yodaiam1000 6 месяцев назад

      @@tubewayarmy2 It was a pure ICE diesel car. The claim that is was electric or hybrid has been debunked. A hybrid diesel combination is not very common. However, Hybrids are even worse than ICE cars and ICE cars are way more likely to catch than BEV cars.

  • @davidsmith-ry6ps
    @davidsmith-ry6ps 6 месяцев назад +8

    Not a garage fire. Its the automatic extreme cold heat function.😂

  • @EmilioBaldi
    @EmilioBaldi 6 месяцев назад +6

    "Treat it as a HAZMAT scene"
    That is an HAZMAT disaster!

    • @yodaiam1000
      @yodaiam1000 6 месяцев назад

      ICE fires are not exactly safe. Neither are tanker explosion and accidents, or pipeline leaks etc. Yes, it is a Hazmat scene but also consider there are similar issues with ICE cars.

  • @misiopuchatek152
    @misiopuchatek152 6 месяцев назад +4

    “But those are just random ultra rare accidents, not common rule”.
    Repeat this thousand times…

    • @Peter-pv8xx
      @Peter-pv8xx 2 месяца назад

      So they don't matter then is what you're insinuating? So as these rechargeable vehicles become more prolific and incidents begin involving fatalities will you continue to be nonchalant I mean normal everyday house fires are rare, I'm going to guess that maybe you aren't a homeowner and therefore this sort of thing will never happen to you, I'll bet all those people aboard the Titanic thought that they had a one in a thousand chance of ending up in the water that fateful night.

  • @paulhetherington6022
    @paulhetherington6022 6 месяцев назад +11

    Great video. It would be interesting to know if any of these vehicles had been in an accident. It takes little time to pull the battery and open it up and physically check inside after a shunt but it's never done.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 6 месяцев назад +2

      I doubt, however, that a visual inspection, as you describe, would be adequate, you can't see the whole battery.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone 6 месяцев назад +1

      Find the video where they were trying to open up a Tesla battery, sealed with adhesive foam... OMG... it may have crooked smirk Munro turned cheerleader.

    • @fyahoo
      @fyahoo 6 месяцев назад +2

      You are talking toy car batteries, right??
      You obviously don't know how much work or cost it takes to pull an EV battery.

    • @fyahoo
      @fyahoo 6 месяцев назад +1

      You are talking toy car batteries, right??
      You obviously don't know how much work or cost it takes to pull an EV battery.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone 6 месяцев назад

      @@fyahoo Your computer is prone to double and triple clone posts.

  • @RealButcher
    @RealButcher 6 месяцев назад +3

    Good talk. Thanks for this differentiating on these different types of EV fire's.

  • @marcodarko6941
    @marcodarko6941 6 месяцев назад +3

    Bet that house with all that permeated smoke residue inside is more toxic and dangerous than a building that's had a meth lab inside of it.

  • @kevandrobsmusicakafrankies8765
    @kevandrobsmusicakafrankies8765 6 месяцев назад

    This was a great video. Thank you for your expertise!!!!!

  • @andreglomm9843
    @andreglomm9843 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the Video

  • @cmcer1995
    @cmcer1995 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great content and educational material. More people need to know about the hazards of electric vehicles, and I try sharing that information in comments encouraging people to check out videos on RUclips and other sources that explain the Truth about the lithium battery. I am a fan of SMFR as well, a very well-trained FD. I also learned something that I was unaware of on the difference of an electric with and without battery involvement.

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 6 месяцев назад +3

    Have you watched John cadogan or mguy Australia bouth engineer's you will learn lot of technical details including the hazard of toxic gass from ev fire's

  • @jonathonalsum9063
    @jonathonalsum9063 6 месяцев назад

    Poking the algo! Great stuff! 🎉

  • @CoryRwtfyt
    @CoryRwtfyt 6 месяцев назад +2

    I've dealt with spicy pillows in small electronics for quite awhile now. I'd never want a jumbo sized spicy pillow in my garage.

  • @pawwalton2157
    @pawwalton2157 6 месяцев назад +18

    EV chargers can keep your garages really toasty!😊

  • @DownEastSaw
    @DownEastSaw 6 месяцев назад +127

    If electric vehicle owners understood electricity, they wouldn’t have bought an electric car in the first place……….

    • @basbass429
      @basbass429 6 месяцев назад +7

      haha lol

    • @wassiswallylokhankin191
      @wassiswallylokhankin191 6 месяцев назад +8

      Like they understand gasoline.

    • @Hugo-py2ce
      @Hugo-py2ce 6 месяцев назад

      Now, this is some b******t comment, and ignorant.
      Not all EVs are created equal, and gas cars catch on fire at a way higher rate than most EVs. Do some research.
      And to be honest, teslas are 1000 times safer than the other EVs. Other EVs are pretty much crap.

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 6 месяцев назад +11

      I see you have smoked the EVangelists out.

    • @paulhetherington6022
      @paulhetherington6022 6 месяцев назад +3

      Same applies to any vehicle really.

  • @iamtheoffenderofall
    @iamtheoffenderofall 6 месяцев назад +2

    To be fair, how many car fires were there in this time frame where people had a fire in their garage?

  • @thruknobulaxii2020
    @thruknobulaxii2020 6 месяцев назад +5

    Gotta wonder, what does it do to the tow-truck’s vehicle insurance after they loaded-up a burning vehicle?
    If there was an accident en-route, do you think the insurance co. would pay up?

    • @okiesailor5417
      @okiesailor5417 6 месяцев назад

      The tow truck would not be picking the vehicle up unless the insurance company has already seen the car and completed their paperwork. If the tow truck were to get in an accident with a burned out vehicle, the insurance would still pay for the burned car as it was more than likely already totaled by the insurance company. Tow truck owners insurance would pay for the tow truck only.

    • @thruknobulaxii2020
      @thruknobulaxii2020 6 месяцев назад

      @@okiesailor5417 👍

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 6 месяцев назад +2

      On a related note, if the tow truck was carrying an EV that went into thermal runaway on the way to the shop would the tow company's insurance cover the cost to replace the tow truck?

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ghost307that's why most don't carry them in the first place.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 6 месяцев назад +3

      Let's consider as well the cost that the county or city paid at the end of the day to put out and control one EV fire. There looked to be about 4 firetrucks,
      20 fire fighters, two or three police vehicles, and maybe 4-5 hours of multi department hourly wages.

  • @JUNGLEISMASSIVE.
    @JUNGLEISMASSIVE. 6 месяцев назад

    This is awesome content.

  • @ayylien
    @ayylien 6 месяцев назад +4

    Problem with EV is everyone thinks "EV, Go Green" but they don't understand the battery technology or electrical knowledge. This means that owners are driving spontaneous fires on wheels without even knowing amp ratings for extension cords, load on outlets, not to charge their cars in garages, or even how to escape their cars in case of total electrical failure (locks are electrical).

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 6 месяцев назад

      Oh, and believe me, as a handyman, I see so many code issues/violations in garages where someone has modified the existing outlets, lights, etc. I have seen inside a neighbor's garage where, to reach some additional attic space, someone removed a large swath of the fire rated drywall. Scary stuff, and consider too, the blowtorch created by some of these EV fires essentially negates the hour burn through originally expected with thicker fire proof drywall.

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s 6 месяцев назад

      It’s not just going green, people buy them for other reasons. Most people don’t buy them for going green, it’s a lot simpler to maintain, fuel costs and be less and they can be more fun to drive.

  • @motleydude73
    @motleydude73 6 месяцев назад +1

    Was one in NZ too, destroyed 2 houses. And a Mercedes at a showroom in Malaysia on NYE.

  • @geoff37s38
    @geoff37s38 6 месяцев назад +2

    The lesson here is to think very carefully before buying an EV. Be aware of the risks of garaging and charging in your home and make sure your smoke alarms are properly installed and working. Then ask yourself this question … is buying an EV a good idea and worth the risk? The probability of your EV destroying itself in a toxic volcano is low , but the consequences are potentially catrostrophic.

  • @bigDH123
    @bigDH123 6 месяцев назад +2

    Did anyone else see the fireman at the very start of the clip at 35 sec. actually standing directly in the toxic smoke without PPE. You can't tell me everyone was wearing proper PPE.

  • @sgonnason9120
    @sgonnason9120 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for filling in the details. Those people would start a fire with a space heater, not the cars fault. What would of happened if they had full tanks of fuel. 🔥

  • @aaron___6014
    @aaron___6014 6 месяцев назад +3

    EV's pair well with the new high density housing developments, don't you think?

  • @yamama7265
    @yamama7265 6 месяцев назад +2

    My gas car starts just fine 😂😂😂

  • @robertsandidge441
    @robertsandidge441 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’m 62 years old owned an I.C.M. Vehicle since I was 16 and have owned MANY, I don’t seem to remember ANY of them SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUSTING! EVER! But I am old.

  • @christophersmith5303
    @christophersmith5303 6 месяцев назад

    A remote power tap and an extension cord? Wow. Just wow.

  • @viskovandermerwe3947
    @viskovandermerwe3947 6 месяцев назад +1

    There should be a You Tube channel dedicated to EV fires. This channel should also be about suspected EV fires such as the Luten fire and the "Dutrch Oven" fire where EV's were present and could make an extinguishable fire impossible because EV runaway fires could exasperate the situation.

    • @Y2Kvids
      @Y2Kvids 6 месяцев назад

      Luton fire was Land Rover. Funnily the Liverpool fire in 2018 was also land rover . I think leaking fuel makes Car park fire with ICE much more dangerous than EV.

    • @viskovandermerwe3947
      @viskovandermerwe3947 6 месяцев назад

      Please read my comment again. I make ir clear that when EV's are present in a normal fire, then EV's change the character of a normal combatible fire into a "runaway fire", which may require special attention to extinguish. This is then a job for specialist fire men ,woman or other. @@Y2Kvids

  • @jranes686
    @jranes686 6 месяцев назад +5

    The one thing nobody seems to talk about is fumes from the EV fires. It has all the same issues that a normal car has with fumes plus the batteries fumes. The fumes from the batteries is so much more toxic than normal car fires that it needs to be dealt with instead of humans breathing it not know how bad the fumes are for them. Then in years or decades they have breathing issues from this toxic brew.
    I like the idea of EV's but we are so far from doing it right. It kills me that we are pushing so hard when we do not have the batteries or infrastructure to handle EV's. Its almost like the politicians have mone in the EV companies and are pushing them at all cost! ;(

  • @steelem422
    @steelem422 6 месяцев назад

    We all like your stuff good work!

  • @monarch1957
    @monarch1957 6 месяцев назад +2

    That's one reason I would never own a electric car plus the $60,000 costs to replace the batteries.

  • @jeffk4223
    @jeffk4223 6 месяцев назад +3

    Very eco friendly from start to finish.

  • @JohnHughes2002
    @JohnHughes2002 6 месяцев назад

    Loving your pronunciation of 'garage' from Blackpool, England. 😂👍

  • @TheColonelKlink
    @TheColonelKlink 6 месяцев назад +1

    Shocking but unfortunately not surprising.

  • @supertec2023
    @supertec2023 6 месяцев назад +3

    I'm reading a lot of comments right now because of the cold weather in Chicago now people are charging all their cars in the garage because it's too cold outside to charge them that means you're going to have more of these situations and somebody's going to lose their life a because it's too damn cold outside or they burn

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 6 месяцев назад

      I wonder what's higher, that or people getting co poisoning from leaving their cars running in the garage?

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 6 месяцев назад +2

      Gives a whole new meaning to range anxiety 😂

    • @supertec2023
      @supertec2023 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ianrobertson3419 will on modern cars I could tell you that most of them will not allow to idle for more than 10 minutes I've seen this on several new Honda models and it is a problem of possibility and luckily most people do know about the danger of carbon dioxide poisoning unlike EV charging in a home garage.

  • @39FORTYWATER
    @39FORTYWATER 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is there a blanket large enough for big vehicles? How can they wrap it and tow the truck or bus?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +1

      At this point, no. A blanket that size would likely be too heavy to manage.

  • @yodaiam1000
    @yodaiam1000 6 месяцев назад

    The firefighters did a great job. In terms of damage to the houses, it looks similar to an ICE car fire probably because they were able to get the HV battery out of the garage. Definitely bad to use a long high gauge extension cord mangled with a bunch of other wires. Use a GFI on the circuit for 120V.
    Regardless of ICE or BEV, there is a risk with a car in an attached garage but a BEV is less likely to catch fire.

  • @AllSeeingHeart
    @AllSeeingHeart 6 месяцев назад +1

    🔥 Electric Vehicles Seem Like a GR8 IDA. Strength! GODspeed!

  • @user-Orkb186-3
    @user-Orkb186-3 6 месяцев назад +2

    Help. I am severely handicapped, I have a disability scooter and a stair lift both of which have lithium-ion batteries, one kept in the garage and the other permanently fixed to the staircase.

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts 6 месяцев назад

    The EV manufacturer & its product liability insurance should be paying for all the damages, including property damages, vehicles & the cost of the fire suppression & response when its their fault

  • @Tonyscasa
    @Tonyscasa 6 месяцев назад

    I came for the informative video and I stayed for the epic moustache

  • @harrymoto6951
    @harrymoto6951 6 месяцев назад

    "Shocking" garage fires involving EVs
    I was still giggling half way through the video. 😂😅🤣
    In all seriousness, thanks for the excellent content. I worry about my tesla owning friends...

  • @ahorton6786
    @ahorton6786 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wow that's a huge amount of resources to deal with a simple car fire. How many vehicles, personnel and equipment were involved, the cost yo the tax payer must have been huge.

  • @SuperchargedSupercharged
    @SuperchargedSupercharged 6 месяцев назад +2

    For my condo HOA, is there somewhere I can find rules already in place? What I want to do is present rules to ban parking or charging EV's or PHEV under the structure in the car ports.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 6 месяцев назад +1

      I searched the internet recently for any legislation pending or already enacted, concerning the charging of EVs in multi-family buildings. I live in southern California, an area where Teslas are very popular and the state government is "all in" for making EVs the only ride in town. So, I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised that nobody in our legislative houses has even considered the danger. Instead, I found legislation written, or passed, demanding the existing apartment complexes, and such, provide community charges somewhere in the public parking areas and any new construction will have it incorporate charging facilities into the overall plan. I live in an HOA and we do have several homeowners that charge in their garages at night. Our buildings are 8 units each with shared walls. We have a lot of couples starting their families, five or six babies born recently. Scheduled for tonight's HOA meeting is a discussion on proposed amendments to the CCR concerning EVs and the charging issues. A preview of what that involves includes increased insurance liability for homeowners insurance (at their expense) if they park and charge inside the garage. The state may be AWOL on the issue but HOAs and insurance companies are not.

    • @vanessabailey4092
      @vanessabailey4092 6 месяцев назад

      They have the same freedom to live their lives as you. Mind your own business. Or pray about it!

    • @SuperchargedSupercharged
      @SuperchargedSupercharged 6 месяцев назад

      You do not have the freedom to burn my condo down or poison me with toxic off gassing while the EV does not get put out in time.@@vanessabailey4092

  • @paulf9459
    @paulf9459 6 месяцев назад +4

    EV Hack, don't park your EV in your garage, park it 50 feet from your house or apartment.

  • @jeffmagers7182
    @jeffmagers7182 6 месяцев назад

    when was the last time a battery tanker crashed and 600 yards of soil had to be excavated because it was polluted?

  • @cosak23
    @cosak23 6 месяцев назад

    i can sense the insurance people ramping up the premiums as the video is playing :))

  • @dwayne7356
    @dwayne7356 6 месяцев назад +3

    (first fire) I understand that the blanket was left on to protect other exposures. Judging by the snow on the ground, I think if I could safety remove the blanket I would ASAP. It will help cool down everything instead of "acting like a blanket" and holding the heat in the battery. I realize than the blanket does nothing for the chemical reaction. I am looking forward to more experience on what the best thing to do. I also think that batteries fire responses will be different under different weather conditions too. Another thing to remember is that road salt and water is highly conductive and may make EV likely to short out faster than on a dry summer day if evolve in a car accident.
    Is there a site with a database examining the conditions of EV fires and what worked best or best practices so far?

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 6 месяцев назад

      Cooling will do nothing. A Telsa still burnt under water.. It's a battery fire. The blanket is only to stop combustion of interior materials.

    • @jdgvee9313
      @jdgvee9313 6 месяцев назад

      Just remember the blanket keeps oxygen out so everything else doesn't catch fire. Pull the blanket off and it allows more oxygen in to set everything ablaze 🔥

    • @dwayne7356
      @dwayne7356 6 месяцев назад

      @@jdgvee9313 Think about that for a second. I agree for the first day or two. But how is everything else going to catch on fire again if it is allowed to cool down removing one leg of the old fire triangle? The batteries are going to flare up with or without the blanket. Once the car is put in a safe place does it matter if the batteries cause "everything" to finish burning?
      Maybe the response should be to bring a liquid oxygen truck and turn the fire into a pretty blue flame to ensure complete combustion and be done with in an hour or two.

  • @suzanneberger8202
    @suzanneberger8202 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hazards on wheels, in motion or not 😮

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 6 месяцев назад

      re: "Hazards on wheels, in motion or not..." ref: "Unsafe At Any Speed: The Designed-in Dangers of the American Automobile", Author Ralph Nader, published circa 1965. also ref: "Those who don't know History are DOOMED to repeat it..." - George Santayana (1863-1952)

  • @jimhill6586
    @jimhill6586 6 месяцев назад

    Many years ago, I would demonstrate a damaged battery runaway. I would take an old cell phone large battery, charge it, run a screw into it. It will burn and become a blow torch. Understand it is stored energy and metals that burn.

  • @virus-hoax
    @virus-hoax 6 месяцев назад +1

    No doubt, cities are gong to start billing EV owners for the additional expense their vehicle caused the city fire dept. The fire blanket alone costs up to $5K.

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 месяцев назад +1

    and the HOA doesn't want to see any trucks, because of aesthetic reasons, so now you're forced to charge your electric CyberTruck and or Rivian in the garage connected to your home, very very smart.

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 месяцев назад +1

    and now they are trying to silence him!

  • @thehairygolfer
    @thehairygolfer 6 месяцев назад +3

    Mini cheynobel on wheels just waiting to poison your street.

    • @pbxn-3rdx-85percent
      @pbxn-3rdx-85percent 6 месяцев назад

      Russia have the Novichok chemical weapon.
      Tesla have the Tesla-chok. Mobile chemical weapon dispenser for civilian use.

  • @anomamos9095
    @anomamos9095 6 месяцев назад

    I know those blankets cost around three to seven thousand dollars, are they reusable or do they just get added to the insurance bill?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +1

      They should be reusable. However, how do you clean them. Removing contaminates is going to be a challenge.

  • @rabokarabekian409
    @rabokarabekian409 6 месяцев назад

    What, not SHOCKING in all caps?
    Lok it up: with gasoline/diesel vehicles, there are an average of 3,384 fires per year out of a total of 4.4 million vehicles, a fire rate of 1 in 1,300.

  • @dereknicol5284
    @dereknicol5284 6 месяцев назад +1

    Neither of the two Tesla fires were started by the vehicle.

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 6 месяцев назад

      Does that matter?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      That if the point of the video.

  • @Bob-ts2tu
    @Bob-ts2tu 6 месяцев назад +1

    when your tesla goes up in smoke it's gods way of saying you have too much money and too little sense

  • @nv1493
    @nv1493 6 месяцев назад

    I'm betting insurance companies are already figuring out non payment exclusions related to EVs.

  • @Livurdreamsawake
    @Livurdreamsawake 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's the Elohim. Thor's Revenge😮

  • @jeffmagers7182
    @jeffmagers7182 6 месяцев назад

    exxon valdez battery spill...remember how much that costed?

  • @jeffmagers7182
    @jeffmagers7182 6 месяцев назад

    when was the last time a battery pipeline leaked into a river?

    • @rburns9730
      @rburns9730 6 месяцев назад +1

      That all happens in Africa to people you don't care about so it's all good.

  • @darrellkovecsi5205
    @darrellkovecsi5205 6 месяцев назад +1

    Buyers need to check your Warranty before buying EV.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

  •  6 месяцев назад

    If the Cobra cutting lance can work on Lithium batteries.
    Why aren't cars and Lithium power storage systems like this designed with water cooling built into the battery packs to cool battery partitions by flooding with water if high temperatures are sensed?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      Packs do have a thermal management system that uses glycol. Thermal runaway will quickly overwhelm the system.

    •  6 месяцев назад

      @StacheDTraining
      Yes, but if you could connect one of your hoses directly to the battery pack flooding it in a fire, would that not be a good thing?

  • @basbass429
    @basbass429 6 месяцев назад

    I really do not understand how people can use cheap no-name extension cords that sometimes even have a lower power rating than the fuse behind the outlet. Duh that will burn. My extension cords, i use many, never any of those got warm on high load. But i make sure the capacity is correct and check regularly for damage. And replace them when they get really old (rubber/plastic degrades over time).

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG 6 месяцев назад

      Extension cords that can't handle the full capability of the rest of the system and don't even have a fuse to prevent overheating shouldn't be legal. So many people buy them because they're the cheaper option without understanding the risks. Instead the solution has been to plaster warnings 'do not use this device with an extension cord' over everything instead of actually fixing the root problem.

  • @Gmanxxx1214
    @Gmanxxx1214 6 месяцев назад

    It's a paradox. Charge the car inside and the garage burns down. Can't charge the car outside in the cold. LOL

  • @anthonyvalenti9093
    @anthonyvalenti9093 6 месяцев назад +2

    So, it sounds like buyers of electric vehicles need to pass a test prior to the purchase. Otherwise, no auto or homeowner’s insurance.
    Might consider a hazmat suit also?. Maybe, become a paramedic? Watch when your neighbor sues you for owning an EV.
    ICE anyone?

  • @Poxenium
    @Poxenium 6 месяцев назад

    what do you think about installing sprinkler system in the garage above the cars?
    dry ice or liquid nitrogen to cool the battery?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +1

      Dry Ice / Liquid nitrogen isn't great due to the specific heat capacity. A sprinkler would help keep a fire in check but won't extinguish a battery fire.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 6 месяцев назад

      In general, sprinkler systems will delay the spread of a fire until the professionals arrive.

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 6 месяцев назад +2

      How about we just keep driving ICE vehicles and stop pretending to make up ideas to be safe with EV's..

  • @OtisFlint
    @OtisFlint 6 месяцев назад

    So of these 3 examples, one was a known defective car, and the other two were bad wiring unrelated to the car. If charging, you have continuous draw, which means you should only run 80% of the capacity of the circuit. I hardwired a 48A charger on a 60A circuit. Very simple.

  • @jaba430
    @jaba430 6 месяцев назад

    The vehicle on the tilt tray truck was a Hyundai Tucson I think, not the original Jag. Or were they both EV's?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      There were two vehicles involved in the Colorado incident. I only focused on the I-pace due to the known battery issue.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 6 месяцев назад

    In these cases, the Teslas weren't directly entirely responsible for the fires, but philosophers could debate the precise allocation of blame. If a vehicle type (Ev) with a particular technology, (Li ion batteries) requires charging devices that are badly implemented, where can cause be allocated?

  • @David-135
    @David-135 6 месяцев назад

    They’re safe when it’s cold!

  • @MyersRacingMXC
    @MyersRacingMXC 6 месяцев назад

    Oh man.. I know you didn't show the Tesla cabin fire reflection video at the end like it was real.. 😅

  • @maszkalman3676
    @maszkalman3676 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you my left ear enjoyed this video 🤣

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      Sorry about that. Seems to be an editing error.

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 6 месяцев назад

      @@StacheDTraining No problem :D

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 месяцев назад

    I wish RUclipsrs also included what mic or camera they use when errors like this happens.

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +1

      Turns out there was an error in the editing stage.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper 6 месяцев назад +1

      When you get an error like this, only audio on the left side, it is usually because microphones are mono and the video is stereo.
      So the RUclipsrs have to copy the mono track into both left and right of the stereo channel, failing that it goes mono on RUclips.
      Just wish RUclips would have had a fix to force that mono channel to stereo per video.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 месяцев назад

      thanks gents!

  • @TonyTiger-xg9cr
    @TonyTiger-xg9cr 6 месяцев назад

    Why hasn't Consumer Protection stopped the sales of EVs

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      That's not the function of that agency.

  • @cvrart
    @cvrart 6 месяцев назад

    Now, imagine if the transition to EV's is very successful, and you have a condo building with dozens or even hundreds of EV's in an underground parking garage. A fire in one EV could quickly spread to others nearby and create a fire that could be virtually impossible for firefighters to put out - there wouldn't be enough EV fire blankets on hand, and it would probably even be impossible and deadly to try to go into the fire. There wouldn't be enough water to have any impact on the intensity of a fire involving dozens or more EV's. The only option would be to evacuate the building and surrounding buildings and let it burn down - most likely, the intense heat of the fire in the parking garage would cause structural failure in the supports of the building, leading to a structural collapse, similar to what happened to the Champlain Towers South building in Florida. But, I guess we'll wait for this kind of tragedy to happen first before we put the brakes on the EV transition.

  • @tjmmcd1
    @tjmmcd1 6 месяцев назад

    If it hasn't already happened, you can bet insurance companies soon won't provide coverage if tow companies retrieve a burned EV or maybe even ALL EV's due to the risk of spontaneous fires. Same goes with junkyards and storage facilities. Not only will the have to isolate junked EV's due to possible spontaneous combustion, the batteries are consider toxic, hazardous waste and have highly-expensive, intricate EPA disposal requirements. No junkyard will want any EV's.

  • @althunder4269
    @althunder4269 6 месяцев назад +6

    Lesson: Don't buy an EV.

  • @134alexander
    @134alexander 6 месяцев назад +3

    A very good argument for having an extremely detached garage especially if your going to join the EV fad.

  • @chrissmith2114
    @chrissmith2114 6 месяцев назад

    Just as I suspected in the Michigan fire, EV owners do not understand electricity....

  • @claytomgraham4680
    @claytomgraham4680 6 месяцев назад

    Nothing is mentioned about containing the contamination water that was put on the ev

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      At this point, the studies say that water contamination is not an issue.

    • @claytomgraham4680
      @claytomgraham4680 6 месяцев назад

      @@StacheDTraining hi I wish I could send the article I read where they talked about the contamination from the water that was used to put the fire out if I find it I will send it to you ,thanks for reading my message

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 месяцев назад

    my smartphone would not even charge if it is cool
    XD!

  • @Nolegu
    @Nolegu 6 месяцев назад

    They're capable of heating itself up in 5 minutes, idiots that uses an external heater will fry the batteries leading to this.

  • @Allangulon
    @Allangulon 6 месяцев назад +1

    Garage fire proofing might soon be big business.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 6 месяцев назад

      A great example of why a wall that's common to the garage and the living space needs to be fire rated (including the door).

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 6 месяцев назад

      You do realise how hot those battery fires are?..

    • @pbxn-3rdx-85percent
      @pbxn-3rdx-85percent 6 месяцев назад

      With automatic closing air tight hatches, rotary warning lights, Klaxon alarm and a robotic voice instructing the garage owner:
      'You have 15 seconds to evacuate your garage before hatches are sealed. Please follow the arrows to exit the premises. Have a nice day"

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@pbxn-3rdx-85percent I have been in quite a few computer rooms with that exact same warning.
      They also have a spring loaded button at the door to keep the fire suppression gas from discharging for as long as it is depressed to allow those few extra seconds for people on the far side of the room to get to the door.
      Once the gas is released...you definitely don't want to be in there.

  • @nevillemills9517
    @nevillemills9517 6 месяцев назад +1

    No don't take it to a salvage yard, take it straight back to where you bought it or to the car maker and tell them to deal with it and you want to be paid for the damages. After all they have damaged your property and sold you a faulty product. PUSH BACK PEOPLE!!! THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO TURN THIS SHIT AROUND.

  • @elmerfudd7674
    @elmerfudd7674 6 месяцев назад

    Uh......clear video of Commirado firefighter covering vehicle with blanket with no SCBA on.

  • @deleteduser3749
    @deleteduser3749 6 месяцев назад

    ... They towed two cars away??

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +1

      There were two vehicles in the garage.

  • @brokencactus9854
    @brokencactus9854 6 месяцев назад +1

    4:58 - excellent insight. So many people are blaming the cars for “spontaneously” catching fire when it’s actually ignorant owners using underrated electrical connections and cables. Kinda like blaming gas cars for catching fire when people are smoking at the gas pump.

  • @practicalguy973
    @practicalguy973 6 месяцев назад +1

    If the batteries are off-gassing under that fire blanket wouldn't there be a risk of hydrogen building up and exploding since it being contained?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад +1

      It is a concern.

    • @practicalguy973
      @practicalguy973 6 месяцев назад +1

      I keep my 18v lithium tool batteries in small metal tool boxes in case they go off, I'm starting to question enclosing them even though the tool box is not air tight.

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 6 месяцев назад

      Where is the hydrogen coming from?
      AFAIK hydrogen is given off when charging a lead acid battery.
      I am willing to learn if my assumption is wrong

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  6 месяцев назад

      @g8ymw lithium-ion batteries release hydrogen when in thermal runaway. They do not release anything during normal operation.

    • @practicalguy973
      @practicalguy973 6 месяцев назад

      @@g8ymw Look back through the videos on this channel, he does a video on this topic. Lithium batteries off gas a lot of hydrogen. That's why we see some EVs explode when the cabin fills with a smaller percentage of hydrogen and other toxic gas.