Battery Fires Are Making Electric Cars and Bikes Look Bad

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
  • A sober look at the problem reveals less of one than hysterical headlines suggest, and some technological answers that make EVs and other vehicles far safer than gas-powered ones.
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Комментарии • 923

  • @JensSchraeder
    @JensSchraeder Год назад +100

    Gasoline car fires don’t require 20,000 gallons of water to put out unlike an EV. Not to mention that they don’t spontaneously combust. EVs also emit way more toxic chemicals when burning than ICE cars

    • @ARLGD
      @ARLGD 9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for sharing your concerns about electric vehicles (EVs). While it's true that EV fires can require a different firefighting approach, it's important to note that battery technology is continuously improving to enhance safety measures. Segway's Portable PowerStation Cube Series is a reliable option for outdoor enthusiasts, offering a massive capacity, durable design, and fast recharging capabilities. It's a great choice for outdoor gear and home backup power needs.

    • @boolaidman471
      @boolaidman471 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@ARLGDlike you said constantly improving but their expirements cause too much damage and take lives, it’s not worth risking your life, better to wait 10 years when the technology is perfected

    • @stevebennett6593
      @stevebennett6593 9 месяцев назад +5

      Way less water to put out a horse fire so that's an even better option.

    • @jamesmccluskey1476
      @jamesmccluskey1476 8 месяцев назад +1

      mine goes fast.

    • @stevencorrea8032
      @stevencorrea8032 8 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't want to be caught in a Ford Pinto top secret 1980 Val Kilmer

  • @neilburns8869
    @neilburns8869 Год назад +93

    There's a RUclips video of an electric bus in Paris, where the battery on the roof of the vehicle had caught fire and it's really quite scary just how quickly the fire spreads and engulfs the whole vehicle.

    • @JohnSmith-xd4zd
      @JohnSmith-xd4zd Год назад

      That was a natural gas fire. Debunked.

    • @JOHNTSHEA
      @JOHNTSHEA Год назад +5

      A ghastly spectacle!

    • @whocares264
      @whocares264 Год назад +8

      i saw that video , it was a hydrogen bus with pressured gas cylinders in the roof , electric vehicles don't have batteries in the roof.

    • @JOHNTSHEA
      @JOHNTSHEA Год назад +10

      Electric buses often have batteries on the roof and that Paris bus was definitely electric.

    • @alphajet2145
      @alphajet2145 Год назад +5

      Those buses (Bolloré BlueBus) have Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries, which are known to be more prone to fire than their Lithium-Ion counterparts.. They were seen by engineers as faster to charge (which they are) and thus they're just some kind of energy-craving cells that'll take anything available to them to consume all their energy fast, albeit if it means burning themselves to death.

  • @TheFrenchPug
    @TheFrenchPug Год назад +12

    I have a friend that is a fireman. He said all they can do is let the car burn and try tons of water.

  • @johnhigdon9745
    @johnhigdon9745 Год назад +11

    We can't have EVs look bad, now can we?

    • @RYTHMICRIOT
      @RYTHMICRIOT 9 месяцев назад +3

      No, as many of our elected officials own stocks in these EV companies and their future wealth is dependent on you buying what they want you to buy

    • @megacap55
      @megacap55 8 месяцев назад

      because the big lie about EVs might get uncovered, or you will have a car that always have anxiety by the battery charge and got charge a car needs hours or at least stop by 45 minutes, also if catch fire by no reason that will make many consumers keep their internal combustion cars

    • @poison7512
      @poison7512 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@RYTHMICRIOTand they didn't own stock in ICE car companies for decades and force EV development to be painfully slow? 👍🤡

  • @fun782house
    @fun782house Год назад +25

    Internal combustion engine gasoline fire is out when you’re driving on the road , not when your gasoline car is parked in your garage , these EV fires are occurring at home in the garage or in the apartment building , catching the apartment on fire, or the home on fire and killing people

    • @arturodelarosa4394
      @arturodelarosa4394 8 месяцев назад +1

      Not really, Stats say most car fires (gas cars or otherwise) are actually caused by the electrical wiring or other factors related to the cabin, the problem really is that a car is a tinderbox on wheels, the source of the fire is rarely the fuel source. I don't know where you got this idea that running gas cars spontaneously catch fire, but you managed to slander both gas cars and EVs.

    • @extec101
      @extec101 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@arturodelarosa4394 agree most of the time an ICE car is on fire it is sometning related to electric and not so often related to like an engine fire from leaking fuel system.
      also accident is a great source of making a ICE car burn but that also is a justifiable caus for an EV to start a sudden mode of spontanious combustion.
      and last the fact that its way more ICE cars around the world makes the % of burning cars per carpita 🤣much less then EVs

    • @arturodelarosa4394
      @arturodelarosa4394 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@extec101 Which is why the stat measurements are not per Capita. they are per 100k units of each type insured. It Is the first apples to apples comparison data, that is the point. An extended notation would be: Every year 52 insurance claims related to fire for every 100 thousand insured EVs. For ICE cars, that number is 1500 for every 100 thousand ICE cars.

    • @extec101
      @extec101 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@arturodelarosa4394 i asume these stats if for US market?
      im from europe and its rair that an ICE car is burning here, well its some bmw and other problematic cars but non the less its not a normal thing.

    • @arturodelarosa4394
      @arturodelarosa4394 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@extec101 yes.

  • @rabbalam
    @rabbalam Год назад +10

    A good reason not to buy an EV, but not the only one. Insurance costs for EVs are much higher than ICEs.

  • @dbronze9622
    @dbronze9622 4 месяца назад +3

    Imagine, what was said about the early gasoline automobiles. I'm sure people were saying, I'll never stop riding horses.

  • @somerandomvertebrate9262
    @somerandomvertebrate9262 Год назад +9

    Number of EV battery fires will go up as the share of EV's on the road goes up. The reason there are so relatively few of them is because almost everyone is still driving an internal combustion engine car.

  • @jeads21
    @jeads21 9 месяцев назад +3

    EV batteries end up causing fires that are Class A,B,C along with oxidizers all in a metal container that prevents access. They’re a idea that had no plan.

  • @stavrosk.2868
    @stavrosk.2868 Год назад +8

    I have known a case here in Belgium where dure fighters had to put a burning electric car in a water bassin because it kept re-igniting

    • @megacap55
      @megacap55 8 месяцев назад +1

      great, contributing to the pollution, great work, supposed the EVs "would save the planet" but it seems that be ecologist had their risks too electric cars catching fire by no reason, just using it as any other car

  • @TubeSkaterRudy
    @TubeSkaterRudy Год назад +14

    LFP batteries are almost impossible to catch fire, the only downsite is they have 25 percent less capacity for the same weight, but there are more promising versions in development.

    • @irimaximustv
      @irimaximustv Год назад +4

      Also LFP batteries can charge to 100% to 0% ( in fact it’s recommended to charge them to 100% ) without detrimental effects to the battery, if you factor that in it has a usable daily range close to the old LNC chemistry which daily shouldn’t be charged above 80-90% and not below 20% unless going on a long road trip to extend the life of the battery. Another positive of LFP is it has no metal mined by child slave labour in the Congo

    • @Telcontarnz
      @Telcontarnz Год назад +2

      That’s why we got an LFP battery…plus the nickel and cobalt mining issue.

    • @juliogonzo2718
      @juliogonzo2718 Год назад +1

      @@irimaximustv you will significantly increase the number of charge cycles if you do not fully deplete the battery every time. 100-0 is still usually good for 2000 cycles at least but by not fully discharging can be many thousands more cycles

    • @jamesocker5235
      @jamesocker5235 8 месяцев назад

      Promising many time leads to unfulfilled result, when it works and can scale and be affordable and safe then it may make it.

    • @josephdewuhan
      @josephdewuhan 8 месяцев назад

      When made in prismatic shape like the blade batteries, the LFP can have a similar volume density to the round lithium ion batteries.

  • @DCuerpoJr
    @DCuerpoJr Год назад +38

    I work in a city fire department and we rarely see electric vehicle fires. Though it typically happens after a collision that compromises the battery.
    Electric bike and scooter fires have become exponentially more frequent because 1) people charge them inside their homes often next to other combustible materials, 2) people don’t check to see if the battery has physical damage, 3) they park them in areas that block escape routes, 4) using a cheap 3rd party battery or charger and 5) lithium ion battery fires burn way faster than normal household items. They can become out of control within 30 seconds and don’t trigger smoke alarms.

    • @FlorinArjocu
      @FlorinArjocu Год назад +2

      That is olso because they are still quite rare. Hopefully they make them.safer, as when one EV burns, there is nothing one can do to stop the fire, hack, it burns for a long time even with the forefighters trying to stop it.

    • @pgiatrakis
      @pgiatrakis Год назад +2

      @@FlorinArjocualso a company that developed an electrolyte that drastically reduces the risk of combustion if a rupture occurs.

    • @DCuerpoJr
      @DCuerpoJr Год назад +2

      @@pgiatrakis yes, solid state electrolytes are intended to not be as volatile, but we probably won’t see mass production of such batteries for another decade due to cost.

    • @pgiatrakis
      @pgiatrakis Год назад

      @@DCuerpoJr yes, however I’m also talking about a current additive featured by Electric Viking just recently that could be added soon to all lithium batteries that drastically reduced the probability of combustion causing the design of batteries to be slightly altered to reduce the thermal management system’s size and allow for more densely packed modules indirectly increasing density as the risk of thermal runaway has been reduced. This is just an additive that increases thermal tolerance of the battery and can be implemented in all known manufacturing methods also increasing the probability of a company adopting the additive.

    • @robburrows2737
      @robburrows2737 Год назад +1

      Thanks for your helpful info.

  • @edvoon
    @edvoon Год назад +8

    Ironic that the fire department training uses a Nissan LEAF as the test vehicle, given that LEAFs, despite their well known battery issues, are in fact not known to have fire issues. It is rare for a Nissan LEAF to catch fire unless it was deliberately induced. They probably used it because old LEAFs also happen to be the cheapest EVs around.

    • @dmclegg66
      @dmclegg66 9 месяцев назад +4

      It's probably because the leaf has a really small battery it only has about 80 miles or so.

  • @zunedog31
    @zunedog31 Год назад +13

    Anyone remember the GTA mod that turned the sticky bombs into Galaxy Note 7s?

  • @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
    @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Год назад +72

    I think the most important thing to note is what was said half way through this video: there are more gas car fires than battery car fires (I don't think anyone cares about something like your smart phone catching fire). According to AutoWeek, there are 1,529.9 fires for every 100K gas vehicles and only 25.1 fires for every 100K electric vehicles. Obviously, even one fire is one too many. I just want to put things in perspective. If there's a car fire, almost certainly it will be a gas one.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 Год назад +1

      there are over 900k gas car fires each Year , yet the MEDIA does not Report on them.

    • @JensSchraeder
      @JensSchraeder Год назад +24

      EV fires require up to 20,000 gallons of water to put out. Not so eco friendly now eh?

    • @charlespratt8663
      @charlespratt8663 Год назад +23

      @@JensSchraeder And can burn for days.

    • @asommer518
      @asommer518 Год назад +12

      @@kilgorefarms2169 You don't understand. For every 100,000 gasoline cars made 1,500 catch fire. For every 100,000 EVs made 25 catch fire. Exact same number is being compared.
      These stats are from the Insurance Industry. How is that skewed?

    • @craighermle7727
      @craighermle7727 Год назад

      @@asommer518 NH isn't too fond of electrics, in particular, the city I live in doesn't support them at all. There was an EV fire here that made headlines here for days, yet in the past couple of weeks there have been at least a dozen car fires that were religated to "page 6".

  • @forrestp33
    @forrestp33 Год назад +12

    The local news has stopped paying attention to car fires, it's not even low-hanging fruit on a slow news day.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Год назад

      Almost like they've been happening for a century.

    • @latetotheparty184
      @latetotheparty184 8 месяцев назад

      It goes against the green energy will save us narrative.

  • @ShortVersion1
    @ShortVersion1 Год назад +9

    That's why I love gas cars and bikes! They literally never catch on fire, and they really aren't that bad for your respiratory system when you inhale the fumes!

    • @sherrimoquin5553
      @sherrimoquin5553 Год назад +1

      Gas cars can catch fire if you get into a serious accident on the road

    • @SuperSy99
      @SuperSy99 Год назад +3

      ​@@sherrimoquin5553EV is ticking bomb compare to gas.Avoid ride EV on flood.

    • @sherrimoquin5553
      @sherrimoquin5553 Год назад +1

      @SuperSy99 I would never buy a ev car anyway

  • @namvet_13e
    @namvet_13e Год назад +14

    Good video, but it misses one troubling attribute of the EV and that is the number of cells in an EV battery pack. You may remember that in 2016 the Samsung company did a recall of all the Note cellphones due to fire risk in their batteries. I never saw any report of how likely (in fire incident per hour of use) for that product but that cell phone probably was similar to others in having a single cell in the battery. The typical EV has anywhere from about 2500 to over 12000 cells in its battery pack. That mean the risk of fire in an EV battery pack is many thousands of times more likely than the risk of fire from a cellphone, laptop computer, tablet or other device. When this probability of a fire is combined with the almost certainty that a cell fire in an EV battery pack will rapidly cascade through all the cells in the battery pack then it becomes clear that the EV is a very serious fire risk whether on the road or just parked. Ask yourself how quickly you can safely get an EV parked and evacuate all the passengers. If an EV spontaneously ignited in your garage, while you are asleep in bed, would you survive? The fact these devices are currently promoted by government policy and the fire risk ignored appears to be criminally negligent. When the number of EV fires are compared to the number of ICE vehicle fires remember that there are many, many times the number if ICE vehicles with an enormous range of age and maintenance state and many ICE vehicle fires are intentionally started in criminal acts to remove evidence after they have been stolen. The Dept of Transportation needs to make fire risk analysis a criteria for evaluation of the safety of the EV.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Год назад

      I wonder how the new NCMA batteries from GM will compare in safety, given they're much bigger cells.

    • @BioniqBob
      @BioniqBob Год назад +3

      Hybrids reflected the most at 3,475 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
      This is most likely because hybrids utilize two powertrains.
      ICE vehicles caught fire substantially less often, at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.
      EV fires were significantly lower than the others, with 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
      So of the approximately two million EVs on U.S. roads, less than two out of a 1,000 will catch fire.

    • @Tubecraft1
      @Tubecraft1 Год назад

      Yes point well made and i wish your comment was at the top. I would hazard a guess that most liquid fuel cars are running around half or quarter full and the chance of diesel self igniting is zero and if it combusts due to deliberate acts or a crash the stored energy of quarter tank of diesel must surley be a lot less than a full or near full battery

    • @BioniqBob
      @BioniqBob Год назад

      @@Tubecraft1 You guess!!! lol
      Why is it 60 times more likely the ICE will go up in flames? No guessing. Puss future batteries will be safer.
      Note: It is gas fumes to worry about not the liquid. But once the fumes go up, the liquid will evaporate . . .

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 8 месяцев назад

      @@pootispiker2866I know of two battery fires at their new Zero Plant... One was reported, the other was not... I am sure there have been more than these two fires.

  • @McMillanScottish
    @McMillanScottish Год назад +3

    Even if electric vehicles could work, they are so far off that it's completely insane to think we're going to get rid of gas cars anytime before 2123.

  • @ruthcormack1765
    @ruthcormack1765 Год назад +3

    Battery tech is coming along by leaps & bounds! that means your shiny new EV has BUILT IN OBSOLESCENCE. A W E S O M E

  • @HoverLambo
    @HoverLambo Год назад +8

    Its also down to the fact they store energy, all things being equal, the more energy stored the greater the fire hazard. And modern batteries are far more energy dense than old lead-acid batteries.

    • @carlocalarco6718
      @carlocalarco6718 10 месяцев назад +2

      You don’t see many EV fires where your at probably because there’s very little of them around… if you look at how many of them are on the road compared to gas cars it’s only about 3 % world wide at this point.. now if you research, you will see that around the world there are a lot of EV fires everywhere and authorities are keeping it quite… camera footage around the world has caught a lot of EV fires…. Look at the airport parking lot in the U.K. authorities are saying the car that started it was a diesel car and it destroyed something like 1500 cars…. I looked at video carefully and it definitely was not diesel fire, it was a battery fire… it was either a full on EV or a hybrid and they both use same battery.. diesel fuel just does not burn like that.. I’m a mechanic and I have held a blow torch to a small amount of diesel and it would not burn at all… diesel requires an extreme amount of temp to ignite… for as long as I can, I will always stick to a gas car… besides the whole thing on climate change is the biggest scam of all time… Let’s all keep paying that wonderful carbon tax because that’s going to change our weather and make it better… for those that believe that, take your head out of the sand and give it a good shake… I’ve studied the climate and all of this nonsense and I can tell you it’s all BS…..

  • @LFTRnow
    @LFTRnow Год назад +20

    It will be interesting to see the Sodium-Ion batteries come out. They will be vastly cheaper to manufacture and require no lithium. How well their safety pans out though will be interesting to see. It probably will need a few years of redesigning to get it right, just as the Lithium ones have.

    • @davesutherland1864
      @davesutherland1864 Год назад +1

      I was wondering the same thing as I watched this video.

    • @JensSchraeder
      @JensSchraeder Год назад +7

      And someday we will ride unicorns.

    • @dmclegg66
      @dmclegg66 9 месяцев назад +1

      Sodium and water = boom ill pass.

    • @truth959
      @truth959 8 месяцев назад +1

      They never got Lithium batteries right.

    • @starpawsy
      @starpawsy 8 месяцев назад

      Sodium batteries are MUCH safer but have even less range and for the same energy are heavier than Lithium batteries. They are completely unsuitable for vehicles, but are excellent for static applications such as grid batteries.

  • @xzibito187
    @xzibito187 Год назад +16

    You can extinguish an ICE vehicle, while an EV cant be extinguished and the vehicle needs to be parked in an open field for weeks or submerged in water for a long period of time.

  • @jojoy1191
    @jojoy1191 5 месяцев назад +2

    An EV caught fire near where my parent lived last week. Apparently the person driving got out fortunately. There was a black hole in the road and it was cordoned off. Road had to be resurfaced. My folks wondered why we aren’t seeing this on the news, it’s the second incident they’ve witnessed. I’ll be sitting out and waiting on this one… again

  • @KILLKING110
    @KILLKING110 Год назад +3

    one of the potential hazards of a EV fire is cobalt exposure as when they burn the cobalt goes airborne and is highly toxic and can disable you if you are exposed to high enough levels of cobalt

  • @Jodyrides
    @Jodyrides Год назад +2

    battery fires are not. The only thing that makes them look bad.
    A good friend bought a used electric motorcycle at a salvage auction.. it had relatively minor damage, but the frame was scuffed. Anytime the frame of a motorcycle is even scuffed slightly, that machine is totaled by the insurance company… my friend owns,a body shop, collision, repair shop. He goes to the auction every week and buys fix a bowl cars for decades. This electric motorcycle was up for auction, and being a motorcycle junkie like myself, he took a chance on it for $1200. It was actually able to replace the broken foot peg, the bent handlebars, the scaffold, body parts, and buff out the frame where the Scots were.
    It was a novelty, he couldn’t go more than 70 miles from home because it was 70 miles back to the charger. Generally he would only go about 40 miles from home, which was fine. If he wanted to go out for an all day ride, he would ride one of his Ducati’s.
    He went onto a blog for electric motorcycles, someone on their advised him to completely discharge the battery by leaving the key on overnight. The claim was, if you totally discharge the battery, it will take a greater charge when you do charge it and it will give you more range. He did that.
    That was the worst advice he ever got. His battery would not take a charge at all. He called the factory and spoke to a rep. The rep talked him through a test sequence. The decision was that his battery is unsalvageable., and the only fix is a new battery
    so my friend asked well how do I go about buying a new battery and how much is it?..
    keep in mind he only had $1200 invested in this motorcycle plus a few hundred dollars for replacement parts to repair the minor crash damage..
    The battery consists of individual battery cells. Seven of them… each battery sell costs $6000. Multiply that seven times. $42,000 is the cost of a new battery, plus shipping, plus tax.
    my friend pointed out to the rep on the phone with him that a new Brahma electric motorcycle only cost $21,000. The rep said, I know, but that’s the way things are…
    my friend searched the Internet for another, crashed Brahma, electric motorcycle in hopes of getting a salvageable battery for over a year he searched. One of them never came up on the site that he uses often in his business, when searching for replacement parts for the damaged cars he buys and fixes.
    He ended up listing and selling the motorcycle as is - for repair on eBay

    • @poison7512
      @poison7512 8 месяцев назад

      Your friend is a total moron for buying a SALVAGE electric vehicle.

  • @XalenMaru
    @XalenMaru Год назад +9

    Good old 2016. An explosive vape pen in one pocket and a flammable Galaxy 7 in the other.

  • @markplott4820
    @markplott4820 Год назад +1

    the TOYOTA Prius is , NOT a long range car , the TESLA model S can go 400+ miles on single charge.

  • @RyanWilliams222
    @RyanWilliams222 Год назад +5

    2:03 Chevy Bolt driver here! Not gonna lie, I charged it away from the house until they replaced the battery for free under the recall. Thankfully, GM and LG (eventually) figured out what the manufacturing problem was. 👍🏼

    • @sum42guy2k
      @sum42guy2k Год назад +1

      I continued charging mine inside my garage.

    • @RyanWilliams222
      @RyanWilliams222 Год назад +1

      @@sum42guy2k Yeah, that would’ve been fine for most people. But if you were particularly unlucky…yikes.

    • @rickagfoster
      @rickagfoster Год назад +1

      I charge two teslas in my garage every night, and my bedroom is directly above them! And I sleep like a baby. 💤

  • @Watch-0w1
    @Watch-0w1 Год назад +23

    Thank you for being neutral. I hate those anti ev group that take any fact to win argument.
    Like seriously let the tech mature. They only want big Petro gas Corp to keep they power.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Год назад +1

      @@Kpsm_golf he doesn't own a ev , at least claim he doesn't.
      And you don't complain when using your damn phone right now to comment.guess what it run on the same battery tech that can catch fire and burn your house down.

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 Год назад +3

      The electricity for charging comes from fossil fuels though 😂

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Год назад

      @@realnapster1522 good job for pointing out the issue

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 Год назад

      @@Watch-0w1 if we can produce massive electricity from Nuclear fusion or solar farms will be good but it’s not practical for every country on earth.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Год назад

      @@realnapster1522 That's still better than having both fossil fuel cars and power plants.

  • @davidmacesr5672
    @davidmacesr5672 Год назад +21

    Thanks for your very well done information on very important matters such as this one. 🖖

  • @ppen62
    @ppen62 Год назад +2

    What I haven’t heard is anything about electric cars driving through high water without being damage

  • @peterolsen9131
    @peterolsen9131 Год назад +3

    its not just the rapid onset fire that is difficult to escape, its the next level toxins that come out of them in the smoke , if the hydroflouric acid vapour and the cyanide dont drop you on the spot to be consumed in the resultant fire, the cobalt may make you permanently disabled from nerve damage the next day or so , failing that , the hexavalent chromium is one of the most carcenogenic substances barring radioactive things! so if it doesnt get you straight away, or the next day, then in 6mths from cancer! and they wont even tell people simple safety things like " get upwind in a fire" because its " damageing to the narrative " ev's will save the planet" dont get me started on that gaslighting campaign...

  • @keegan773
    @keegan773 Год назад +2

    1,600 YES ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED vehicles destroyed by EV fire in Luton airport multi story car park, the car park also collapsed.

  • @adilator
    @adilator Год назад +7

    Anyone in the RC hobby field could have told you so. Every Lipo battery will burst into flames sooner or later no matter what you do.
    I'm not getting an electric car until there is new techonology that is more durable and safe.
    Gasoline cars that catch on fire always do that when the engine is on and you're there to do something about it, electric cars can set your house on fire at anytime.

    • @Skfkf1393a
      @Skfkf1393a Год назад

      I agree with everything you say except I’m pretty sure some BMW and Hyundai have caught fire while not being driven.

    • @adilator
      @adilator Год назад +1

      @@Skfkf1393a I didn't look into the bmw/kia issue since it's only in the US, but the engine must have been on at some point for the fuel to catch fire.
      I drive diesels anyway, which can't catch fire even you try.

    • @steveurbach3093
      @steveurbach3093 Год назад

      Tell my friend whose Lead Battery decided to blow up while parked. Unusual, but happens. Or about Catalytic converter caused fires caused from parking over flammable material

  • @Weeklongwind647
    @Weeklongwind647 Год назад +2

    Good thing Elon Musk is now making nickel batteries. Welp now we know what’s the safest electric car company to trust in the future. Oh wait that’s still a type of lithium ion…
    Edit: Funny thing how I got an advertisement for an E-Bike while watching this video 💀💀💀. “Wow smart marketing plan.”

  • @AdmiralBison
    @AdmiralBison Год назад +3

    We've hit the limitations of Lithium Ion and are overdue for more advanced battery technologies, because it will hold back other future technologies and innovations.

    • @michaeld5888
      @michaeld5888 Год назад

      Expensive business buying in to experimental technology pushed by panicking virtue signaling environmentalists, especially of the Swedish schoolgirl variety, so best avoided if at all possible unless you can light your cigars with dollar bills. Not saying there is not a potential problem but this rather late rush to fix things quickly is in a bit of a mess and needs slowing down.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Год назад

      @@michaeld5888 "Electric cars offend me because gasoline is my whole personality!"

  • @muhlenberg2608
    @muhlenberg2608 8 месяцев назад +2

    They are so limited. And here we see they are a menace to life, limb, and property.

  • @franknew9001
    @franknew9001 11 месяцев назад +4

    EV now means Explosive Vehicles!!

  • @megacap55
    @megacap55 8 месяцев назад +1

    the big problem with EVs are , the world is NOT READY TO THEM, EVEN STREETS, POTHOLES, LITTLE GROUND IRREGULARITIES AND USAGE OFF ROAD AND ALREADY IS NOT A SUSPENSION SYSTEM THAT CAN DEAL WITH POTHOLES AND AVOID VIBRATIONS INSIDE THE CHASSIS AND BATTERY PACK

  • @CharliePryor
    @CharliePryor Год назад +8

    Out of every 100,000 electric vehicles, there are 25 fires per year. Out of the same number of gasoline vehicles, that number is over 1500.
    So no… actually, the extreme rarity of EV fires make them look good

    • @dickriggles942
      @dickriggles942 Год назад +3

      Sources please, thanks.

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk Год назад

      Are you sure you didn't meant to say 100,000? 1500 out of 10,000 seems very high. That's what like 15% ?

    • @CharliePryor
      @CharliePryor Год назад +1

      @@oplkfdhgk YES 100K! My bad! Missed a zero there. Edited.

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk Год назад

      @@CharliePryor no problem. 🙂

  • @zoobiewa
    @zoobiewa Год назад +2

    Shouldn't we know fires PER CAPITA of gas cars versus electric? The raw numbers are pretty meaningless when we don't know exactly how many of each are on the roads.

  • @mattbell1907
    @mattbell1907 Год назад +21

    My Camry had to go in for repair because of a fire risk recall.
    It was an issue with the lubricant on the power window switch.
    Car fires can start a lot of ways

    • @rebeltvr6046
      @rebeltvr6046 Год назад +4

      Yeah, but there are far more fires with EVs than ICE cars, and that's the point here.

    • @rabbalam
      @rabbalam Год назад

      Yes, but the percentage of total EVs that catch fire is astronomically higher than ICEs (Meaning: your chance of getting killed is astronomically higher)

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 Год назад +1

      The percentage of gas cars randomly catching fires is low compared to EVs. That’s the point.

    • @BioniqBob
      @BioniqBob Год назад

      @@rebeltvr6046 Hybrids reflected the most at 3,475 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
      This is most likely because hybrids utilize two powertrains.
      ICE vehicles caught fire substantially less often, at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.
      EV fires were significantly lower than the others, with 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
      So of the approximately two million EVs on U.S. roads, less than two out of a 1,000 will catch fire.

    • @BioniqBob
      @BioniqBob Год назад

      @@realnapster1522 Wrong by a long shot.

  • @BostonPower
    @BostonPower Год назад +2

    Looks a lot worse when you're in one.... Power grids cannot support this and parking structures cannot support the weight of those cars and if you're driving along in your car your normal car and one of these extremely heavy cars hit you you're dead

  • @luisaguilar3959
    @luisaguilar3959 Год назад +7

    Here in Arizona during the summer, about four cars, a week ignite and catch fire.

  • @jsullivan6289
    @jsullivan6289 6 месяцев назад +1

    The problem with your stats regarding ice vehicles is that it doesn’t provide the number of fires for each type of vehicle to the number of vehicles registered in each of the two categories. In 2022 (latest available) EV fires were 2.1% of registered EVs. ICE vehicles were 0.07%. Approximately 300 times more frequent.

  • @toms5996
    @toms5996 Год назад +9

    According to statistics the event of any of those things you mentioned happening is more rear than having an electric shock from some device. This is a discussion like 'Are planes safe? Is flying safe?'. When making a video like this - don't spread fear and misinformation but links to studies.
    Edit: this video is funny since we use gasoline in so many products - an explosive, flammable extremely dangerous liquid.

  • @apercy
    @apercy Год назад +1

    Buy product! Don't question safety and buy more product!
    Gasoline bad!! Buy electric product!
    Yeah, this video totally isnt damage control.

  • @catbird1759
    @catbird1759 Год назад +11

    Looking thru the comments you see the hate of gas or electric. Let it be your decision what you want. I've worked in the mechanic field for over 40 years, I see the good and bad. I also have seen improvements and we can't see anything invented perfect out of the box. Human factor is involved in everything made and how it is used. Good video

    • @juliogonzo2718
      @juliogonzo2718 Год назад

      I saw a video where they removed the plastic tub from the "frunk" of an f150 and it looked like a turbine engine with cooling system hoses and lines everywhere. It made me glad I made a career change from being a truck and coach technician 10 years ago

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 Год назад +1

      If an EV is in a crash, it’s sure to catch fire if battery is ruptured. Do gas cars explode too? Yes but compared to number of cars on road, percentage is less compared to EVs.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Год назад

      @@juliogonzo2718 Change is inevitable. Adapt or fail.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Год назад +1

      @@realnapster1522 Kia currently has an issue with their gasoline-powered cars catching fire after catastrophic engine failures. Take that as you will.

    • @juliogonzo2718
      @juliogonzo2718 Год назад +1

      @@pootispiker2866 only thing that will be failing is that cooling system in about 3 years. Unfortunately most people think a Rube Goldberg engineering style means that more complicated means "more gooder" all it means is more failure points. Oh well people like me who can fix things will be in high demand in future so long as people can actually afford to pay them.

  • @erichstocker8358
    @erichstocker8358 4 месяца назад +1

    Gas fires don't burn at 2000 C. Also, they don't put out the huge volume of poisonous gases. They also don't spontaneously combust. All the EV fan boys kept talking about the percentage of fires rather than the nature of the fires.

    • @ptech88
      @ptech88 2 месяца назад

      Why not go look at the numbers yourself. May not like the results

  • @matthewbaynham6286
    @matthewbaynham6286 Год назад +5

    Petrol and Diesel cars are twice as likely to catch fire compared to electric cars.

  • @sonnyeastham
    @sonnyeastham 9 месяцев назад +1

    After insurance companies base the risk of EV's on the age of the EV battery instead of the driving record of the EV owner....the green-scam is over

  • @Maxim.Teleguz
    @Maxim.Teleguz Год назад +222

    Gasoline car fires are making gasoline cars look really bad.

    • @jaygreenn92
      @jaygreenn92 Год назад +3

      He don’t dig that some of these electronic cars & bikes or water proof like mines I done rode e bike through the craziest rainstorm & still point a to point b & still ride it fully waterproof e bike & take 4 hours to charge when the battery on E

    • @jaygreenn92
      @jaygreenn92 Год назад +1

      Crazy part I rode my e bike through 4 different crazy rain storms & still moving at the same speed through the rain

    • @jaygreenn92
      @jaygreenn92 Год назад +1

      I always watch reviews

    • @jaygreenn92
      @jaygreenn92 Год назад +3

      Sometimes devices not hazards dumb people are

    • @mikeandbrenproductions9944
      @mikeandbrenproductions9944 Год назад +2

      lol....truth!

  • @garydzidowski1134
    @garydzidowski1134 Год назад +2

    Very good presentation. There needs to be a way to have insurance companies and car resellers be required to remove the battery pack from any damaged or salt water flooded car. Then work with battery recyclers to safe these batteries and recycle them. They are nearly 100% recyclable if done properly. Removing the battery from the car, scooter, bike, etc. will make it safer if it does burn. Most of the problem comes from the burning rubber, plastic, etc. Or maybe we could go back to horses and mules, they rarely caught fire.

    • @whocares264
      @whocares264 11 месяцев назад

      Yes horse and mules have that in common with evs they both rarely catch fire....but horse and mules pollute more

    • @saralotti7174
      @saralotti7174 10 месяцев назад

      @@whocares264fertilizer isn’t pollution 😂
      You like food right?

  • @maschwab63
    @maschwab63 Год назад +2

    A lot of the problem is Lithium battery fires occur while charging at home, taking out the home. Vs car fires generally occur on the road with momentum and time to stop out of the way. Also, Sodium seems safer with only a slightly higher weight and much higher availability.

    • @killman369547
      @killman369547 Год назад +1

      How is sodium safer? Alkali metals become more reactive as you go down the periodic table not less. We've all seen those old youtube videos of idiots throwing chunks of sodium in water yeah?

    • @maschwab63
      @maschwab63 Год назад +1

      @@killman369547 getting Lithium hot enough or putting a metal object between layers shorts out the lithium battery and causing a fire. I think the sodium battery won't do this.

    • @ashleym2878
      @ashleym2878 11 месяцев назад

      Sodium less power less range and don't expect some magical thing to happen where batteries some how become super efficient and better and better. It's about as good as it will ever get

    • @arturodelarosa4394
      @arturodelarosa4394 8 месяцев назад

      You are the second person to repeat this lie. I don't know where this is coming from but someone lied to all of you. Most car fires start in the cabin or in the electrical wiring, and the cabin is where it first spreads, gas car engines do not go around spontaneously catching on fire as you drive them, that is insane and slander. Nor do EVs batteries spontaneously catch fire in your garage. Statistically speaking this is not the reason why most car fires occur. And yes most care fires happen while parked, regardless of the car fuel source, it happens cause cars cabins are tinderboxes of plastics and fabrics.

  • @leostask
    @leostask Год назад +1

    Had a samgsung phone rupture in my pants pocket , I was driving my motorcycle at the time! I was able to pull over and remove the phone post haste! The samgsung representative was very concerned if I burnt myself or a destruction of any thing! Got a new updated phone out of them, but I don't leave my phone in my pocket on the motorcycle, I use a handlebar phone holder! You can teach an old dog new tricks!

  • @TheIncomparableGolfer
    @TheIncomparableGolfer Год назад +4

    5:03 you are not talking about the important number. The number of gas cars that catch fire divided by total gas cars sold is the % you should be talking about. And same for EV

    • @MatejaMaric
      @MatejaMaric Год назад

      In that case, it’s 10x lower for EVs. That is per mile driven, not per sales.

    • @TheIncomparableGolfer
      @TheIncomparableGolfer Год назад

      @@MatejaMaric Let me know when you figure out the "per sales %" number. Miles driven is a manipulated number

    • @MatejaMaric
      @MatejaMaric Год назад

      @@TheIncomparableGolfer Manipulated? Care to explain how so? And even if it somehow is, is it manipulated to a factor of 10?
      X per mile driven is the industry standard. And it make sense, since we’re really only interested in vehicles that are actually being used and driven. Or maybe you’re implying that the US National Fire Protection Association and the Department of Transportation don’t know what they’re talking about? Right…

    • @TheIncomparableGolfer
      @TheIncomparableGolfer Год назад

      @@MatejaMaric Department of Transportation has been wrong before. I'll answer your question after you answer my original question instead of trying to sound smart by adding information no one asked for.
      I bet you still haven't figured out the % of fires that happen to all vehicles sold.

    • @shaonian
      @shaonian Год назад

      A gas car is 60x more likely to catch on fire than an EV according to data from the NTSB.

  • @davidbrandenburg8029
    @davidbrandenburg8029 4 месяца назад +2

    if your near a EV fire make sure you are, up wind if you don't want Cobalt poisoning!.

    • @ptech88
      @ptech88 2 месяца назад

      Good call, as opposed to other fire that are healthy to inhale right?

  • @surfntrucks
    @surfntrucks Год назад +3

    0:03 Brian says "long rang cars." and the editor shows a Prius.🤣

  • @HumanNothing-n6c
    @HumanNothing-n6c 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ev fires wasn't this common when lead acid batteries were used. But to get higher power companies started using li ion batteries. I think companies should provide ev with lead acid batteries at least as optional for them who want a safer car .

  • @PatsinPA
    @PatsinPA Год назад +4

    CNET, I’m conflicted about watching Brian Cooley. While he’s the main EV spokesman for your RUclips channel and presents a lot of great information about the vehicles and tech, he doesn’t actually own or drive an EV. This feels like a mistake having him in charge these segments then. While I like his relatable presenting style, it would be like an Amish farmer reviewing flatscreen tvs. Just because he visited a Best Buy, or googled a topic is not enough to be a subject matter expert. Have someone presenting who is more living the EV lifestyle than a skeptic who is waiting for the magical future of 500mi EV range for under $30k with chargers at every gas station or parking lot. Nope, the future is now. Thanks!

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 Год назад +1

      BRIAN is a paid MOTHPIECE for gm/FUD motors.
      BRIAN is a LIAR & FRADULANT.

  • @Funcentric
    @Funcentric Год назад +2

    Also mid way through, many of those examples of fires are of lipo batteries, not lithium ion. A little misleading.

  • @thinktoomuchb4028
    @thinktoomuchb4028 Год назад +15

    This was great! But I think the public would also benefit from a more in depth comparison between EV and ICE car fires.

    • @hunterxcraft8328
      @hunterxcraft8328 Год назад +2

      Lmao what more depth do u need? Electric cars burn for days and require 10s of thousands of gallons of water to put out. Gas fires burn till the couple gallons of gas are gone or someone turns a hose on it. Definitely don’t need an in depth comparison to know which one u would rather be in in an accident

    • @thinktoomuchb4028
      @thinktoomuchb4028 Год назад +9

      @@hunterxcraft8328 I meant the topic in general, not just how they burn. Examples: What were the common causes of the 175,000 ICE car fires in 2021? How many EV and ICE fires involved accidents? I think there's a fear that an EV can look fine, but then start flaming seemingly out of nowhere. How often does that happen with ICE cars? There were far fewer EV fires, but how many EV and ICE fires were there as a percentage of vehicles in use or vehicles sold? Aside from the fire itself, how often do EV's explode vs ICE cars?

    • @tribalypredisposed
      @tribalypredisposed Год назад +1

      @@hunterxcraft8328 uhm, so you would rather have a far higher chance of dying in an accident in your ICE car? Teslas have the highest crash safety ratings ever seen. Yes, some Teslas have caught on fire, and in the last ten years with now 3.5 million cars on the road, a total of 44 people have died in a Tesla that caught on fire, and most of them were in crashes at speeds that are just not survivable anyway.

    • @tribalypredisposed
      @tribalypredisposed Год назад +2

      @@thinktoomuchb4028 ICE cars are way more likely to catch on fire without a crash.

    • @Tz3952ii
      @Tz3952ii Год назад

      @@thinktoomuchb4028 Exactly. I also want to know if they are comparing the same year models or mileage on them because older the cars more likely to get into an accident therefore catches the fires. Also fatality rate per fire. There are many non fatal car fires on road especially for older gas cars.

  • @fast-trackhack6637
    @fast-trackhack6637 20 дней назад +1

    Some countries require you to buy and maintain a fire extinguisher for your gasoline vehicle, because they have so many gasoline car fires when driving. And it gets worse in accidents when gasoline is spilled all over the road.
    But it could be dangerous for an amature to try to open the hood or look for the smoke and fire and use the extinguisher? Better to stay away from a burning gasoline vehicle?
    In my lifetime, I've seen many burning gasoline vehicles alongside the road in several countries, and not one burning EV. You would think given that Norway's new vehcile registrations are over 90% EV that they would have some news about burning EVs, but they don't.
    Go figure.

  • @joshhoward1289
    @joshhoward1289 Год назад +18

    Good video, always enjoy a balanced discussion.

  • @nameuser4406
    @nameuser4406 Год назад +2

    If your engine catch fire there will be signs before it fully erupts. With Ev's you are sitting on top of the battery. Big difference.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 Год назад +1

      FALSE, EV fires start with battery failure, usually is LIMITED to just single module.
      IF module is not made Correctly , the whole module can catch fire,.
      TESLA has fuses on each indiviual cell , each cell is smothered in FIRE retadant foam , and each Module self ISOLATES from other cells .

    • @nameuser4406
      @nameuser4406 Год назад

      @@markplott4820 ok pal

  • @staunchlyspeaking
    @staunchlyspeaking Год назад +4

    The 10,000 gasoline fires a day are making the combustion engine look bad

    • @steveurbach3093
      @steveurbach3093 Год назад

      Only 10K? About 2500+ per minute.... (inside the cylinders)

    • @staunchlyspeaking
      @staunchlyspeaking Год назад +1

      @@steveurbach3093 this must be mechanic humor.

    • @Mshi-
      @Mshi- Год назад

      He literally added more context near the end

  • @kaijen2688
    @kaijen2688 Год назад +1

    Ev's have 25 fires/ 100,000 vehicles while ICE vehicles have 1530/100,000 fires. With sodium batteries there is no thermal runaway, temperatures dont effect the battery and you can drill or beat it wirh hammer and not have any issues.

  • @jameshuppenthal3586
    @jameshuppenthal3586 Год назад +1

    What are we going to do with the 120,000 tons of lithium battery waste. Don’t tell they will be recycled.

  • @grachirussel1805
    @grachirussel1805 Год назад +3

    In respect to your idea, not everyone can afford to purchase an E car besides it's quite costly even to maintain it🤷how do the common man go about it?

    • @austinmiller2411
      @austinmiller2411 Год назад

      It's the 21 century or more lol but men you should get yourself involved in the modern world, they're many opportunities out there that can actually bring good incomes for ya , that's how you escape the rat race.

    • @freddiethomas3704
      @freddiethomas3704 Год назад

      Tesla's especially 😂it take a huge bag to get that baby, but I will get it or my son will, in due time 🤞

    • @grachirussel1805
      @grachirussel1805 Год назад

      @ctolarson4002 Thanks so much for the info , yeah I got my eyes on some good options, probably sell some of property but got some funds in the bank, I hope I get things right anywhere.

  • @1xm_mx1
    @1xm_mx1 5 месяцев назад +1

    What's the carbon footprint of EV's catching fire around the globe, not including the fire damage and injuries it causes?

  • @OldManse09
    @OldManse09 Год назад +3

    A little perspective here. Chevy recalled 140,000 Bolts for possible battery problems. There have been 19 battery fires. 0.014%. Yes any fire is too many. This report could use a few less sweeping generalities and a few more hard facts.

    • @gregkramer5588
      @gregkramer5588 Год назад

      Yes, He left out the cause which was a MFG issue with a fold of metal. I thought overall this was not well researched for the video.

  • @geoffwells6724
    @geoffwells6724 11 месяцев назад +1

    Gasoline fires can be put out relatively easy compared to Ev's.

  • @oleksiychekin1257
    @oleksiychekin1257 Год назад +3

    The main problem with battery fire that in the time some things melt inside of the battery and produce oxygen as part of the process. Its because of that its hard to stop the fire until it completely burn.

  • @thefreem0
    @thefreem0 Год назад +1

    It's not the new tech that people are concerned about EV fires... it's the fire is 100% uncontrollable... a single fire extinguisher can put out a fire in ICE car if caught early... this not true for EV when the smoke happens it is game over for that car.

  • @Hjenkinsfsh
    @Hjenkinsfsh Год назад +4

    Gasoline fires are making ICE cars look bad. Have you ever tried carrying Gasoline on the airplane. Compare the stats and tell me which is more dangerous.

    • @wtfchazpwnt
      @wtfchazpwnt Год назад

      Lol sure true. This video is just harvesting unjustified fear of a new technology to generate clicks.

    • @jaym9846
      @jaym9846 2 месяца назад

      There whole lot of jet fuel under passengers. Are you saying Li-Ion powered airplanes would be safer?

  • @heyaisdabomb
    @heyaisdabomb Год назад +1

    The problem is everyone has been saying this since the original Tesla Roadster about batteries. CNET was a bad actor in this too. You guys used to report on EVERY Tesla fire like it was headline news. Don't act like you weren't part of the problem in the early days. And no one ever put it into perspective of gas car fires, because that would kill the story. EVeryone tried to kill the electric car before it could get going, thankfully, Elon was too determined to be stopped.

  • @tonyd9830
    @tonyd9830 Год назад +4

    Electric cars are for the rich and famous

    • @kenyattaclay7666
      @kenyattaclay7666 Год назад +1

      No they aren’t.

    • @thinktoomuchb4028
      @thinktoomuchb4028 Год назад

      Tesla and some others started out that way. Very expensive to start a car company.. especially one based on new tech. So make the cars appealing to celebs and the rich, then make less expensive cars as economy of scale makes them cheaper to produce. Brilliant strategy!

    • @dickriggles942
      @dickriggles942 Год назад

      They're for the rich if you keep one as a toy. It's definitely not something I would want as a daily driver.

    • @dickriggles942
      @dickriggles942 Год назад

      @@thinktoomuchb4028 What are you talking about?

    • @gregkramer5588
      @gregkramer5588 Год назад

      Unless it is a Bolt that is not one priced well but save you a bunch of money every year.

  • @fanelli57
    @fanelli57 9 месяцев назад +1

    They're not making electric cars and bikes look bad, electric cars and bikes ARE bad.

  • @mikeandbrenproductions9944
    @mikeandbrenproductions9944 Год назад +7

    I know that the big mine trucks have a fire suppression system that can be activated just incase a fire occurs in the radiator. Could a similar system be implemented on cars (near the battery) as an extra measure of safety? Great video btw!

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk Год назад

      I think it would be pretty hard to do that cus i have seen many ev battery fires and it seems like they need ridiculous amount of water to put it out so it makes probably more sense to try to stop the fire before it happens.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Год назад +2

      motorsport applications also often have fire suppression systems where lines can be sent to various areas of the vehicle (like exhaust manifolds, fuel lines, driver compartment etc). Probably possible to have similar developed and integrated into an EV for it's battery pack, but I bet it is simply cost prohibitive and not seen as necessary due to how relatively infrequent fires are.

    • @ronaldking1054
      @ronaldking1054 Год назад +3

      Rich Rebuilds had a vehicle that had the battery punctured. The battery vented steam to prevent the fire. There were three batteries in the vehicle, and only the punctured battery was destroyed.

    • @davesutherland1864
      @davesutherland1864 Год назад

      Based on what was said in this video, Li Ion batteries have their own supply of oxygen. Passed a threshold of damage they will be almost impossible to stop from burning. However, I am sure you can design a battery to increase the threshold where you reach that point.

    • @jeffreystorer4966
      @jeffreystorer4966 Год назад +1

      Very expensive to install and maintain ,the same thing that snuff out fire could snuff out passenger ,cabs of mentioned trucks are separated from the suppression systems

  • @corujao08
    @corujao08 Год назад +1

    BRAZIL POLITICIANS SHOULD MAKE A LAW PROHIBITING ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN UNDERGROUND PARKING LOT AND IN BUILDINGS AS IT WOULD BE A CASTROPHE IN CASE OF A FIRE IN AN EXPLOSION OF
    VEHICLE BATTERY IN THE BUILDING PARKING RISK OF FIRE IN THE BUILDING LIKE A BOMB.

  • @JustWasted3HoursHere
    @JustWasted3HoursHere Год назад +3

    I'm glad you pointed out that EV fires are less common than gas car fires. But really they are FAR less likely with EVs. Like about 60 times less likely, whether you go by total number or percentage of EVs. Sodium Ion batteries are a technology currently in the testing phases and seem to be extremely safe so far.

    • @BioniqBob
      @BioniqBob Год назад

      Hybrids reflected the most at 3,475 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
      This is most likely because hybrids utilize two powertrains.
      ICE vehicles caught fire substantially less often, at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.
      EV fires were significantly lower than the others, with 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
      So of the approximately two million EVs on U.S. roads, less than two out of a 1,000 will catch fire.

    • @stevenbass732
      @stevenbass732 11 месяцев назад +1

      Less common perhaps but incredibly more destructive.

  • @Navigator-apex
    @Navigator-apex Год назад +1

    Catastrophic results when they go up in flames especially in the wrong place.

  • @jctai100
    @jctai100 Год назад +14

    Loving these more meta takes on the tech industry!

  • @arturodelarosa4394
    @arturodelarosa4394 8 месяцев назад +1

    5:26 I don't think the point was clear enough. Statistical reports from insurance claims say that number equals 60x more gas car fires than EV fires (that's 25 fires for every 100k EVs), is not even close. EV fires are statistically so rare that is ridiculous we are even talking about it.

    • @-V-K-
      @-V-K- 8 месяцев назад

      EV were TWICE as likely to catch fire as ICE :
      Data obtained through a Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed that in 2019 the London Fire Brigade dealt with 54 electric vehicle fires compared with 1,898 petrol and diesel fires.
      Vehicle registration numbers from the Department for Transport (DfT) show there are 50,000-plus plug-in cars licensed in the capital out of a total 4.63 million licensed cars.
      Looking at the London Fire Brigade data, that would suggest an incident rate of 0.04% for petrol and diesel car fires, while the rate for plug-in vehicle is more than double at 0.1%.
      EVs TWICE twice as likely to catch fire as ICE

    • @arturodelarosa4394
      @arturodelarosa4394 8 месяцев назад

      @@-V-K- Because this article is clearly doubtful, i went and used the methodology they propose to calculate this number myself and the following conclusions come forward, they hay the proportion of register cars roughly right for the time, Somewhere around 1.5% off all vehicles in london were electric back then, using the 2021 data that is the first one available, it seems they forgot to exclude electric bikes, since of course those don't count as registered vehicles. Now the dataset is extremely small, we are talking 170 fires out of which 15 classify as EVs, if you do the math with those numbers you get something similar to what they have wich is EVs catch on fire more than ICEs, the problem is the classification of EVs is applied to many cars who are not battery electric EVs, this means hybrids, which on their own are extremely pron to fire acording to the stats, to make it worst this includes evs with range extender like tech (think BMW i3 rex) but also traditional non plug-in hybrids. if you remove hybrids from the stats then you get a fire proportion of 1.5% which i'm guessing is no coincidence it matched the proportion of registered vehicles, Which means the catch on fire equally, this makes even more sense when you realize that the number one cause of fire (by a big margin) listed is (and i quote from their data set): "Heat source and combustibles brought together deliberately". There is one thing clear, batteries are not catching on fire spontaneously in london cars, the data is thrown off if you include bicycles, since the data you are comparing to is registered vehicles and bikes are not registered. For some reason hybrids are the type of cars than burn more statistically. And human error is the number one cause of fire in london.

  • @evoemperor3776
    @evoemperor3776 Год назад +5

    Ev cars is more heavier than the equivalent ice car so there is that too.

    • @kenyattaclay7666
      @kenyattaclay7666 Год назад

      And what does that have to do with fire risk? He literally just talked about how ICE vehicles are just as much if a higher risk of catching fire as an EV.

  • @tonysheerness2427
    @tonysheerness2427 Год назад +1

    what percentage of gas cars catch fire compared to the percentage of Battery Cars?

  • @DymaxionDon
    @DymaxionDon Год назад +6

    I have watched and enjoyed many of your videos on RUclips but this is not one of them. This is pure damage control for the EV industry while need transparency about these vehicles not coverup.

  • @dalebenton3354
    @dalebenton3354 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just thinking of this as well,After knowing Electric bikes and Electric scooters been catching fire,Also been thinking the same with Electric cars also catching fire as well,Same with any other electrical items can also easly burst in to high flames,Ive never really had no bad luck with fires,Part from my chip pan catched fire one day,I found a quickest easy way of putting that out with a soaking wet towel

  • @miguelvega7769
    @miguelvega7769 Год назад +8

    I mean think about the EV cars, not enough charging stations, and fast charging stations, anyone who’s watched Rich Rebuilds and Hoovies will see you can’t use a truck like a truck and Not enough charging stations, but the looks and feel of EV are flawless

    • @danharold3087
      @danharold3087 Год назад +4

      You really should not be basing anything on Hoovie which is a fun but not exactly an unbiased or factual channel. It is entertainment. He was playing to all the guys who love to roll coal and giving EV haters in general a chance to laugh. As for charging stations most cars will be charged at home overnight. If you can't do that don't buy an EV yet.
      Transport Evolved used their F150 lightning to tow a full sized trailered car from portland to Colorado. It took longer than an ICE but it was not like hoovie made it out to be. And it did not fund putin's war or opec!

    • @zombl337og
      @zombl337og Год назад +1

      EV cars are a lot more feasible right now than trucks

    • @danharold3087
      @danharold3087 Год назад

      @@zombl337og That does not say EV trucks are unfeasible.

  • @charlespratt8663
    @charlespratt8663 Год назад +2

    Never trust a cheap Chinese lithium battery.

  • @MrAljackie
    @MrAljackie Год назад +6

    Thanks soo much for leveling the playing field!!! People are too quick to point fingers at EVs'

  • @christophercharles3169
    @christophercharles3169 Год назад +1

    By it's first day of service, an EV has already generated 1/2 the carbon dioxide that an equivalent ICE vehicle will use in it entire lifetime. EVs don't amount to much more than virtue signaling in my opinion.

  • @JT_771
    @JT_771 Год назад +6

    Rare to see lots of real, proper detail in such reports. Well done.

  • @garymathis1042
    @garymathis1042 Год назад +1

    Gasoline fires are easy to put out; EV fires not so much.

  • @brushlessmotoring
    @brushlessmotoring Год назад +3

    Good job CNET - well written, well presented, and great to see you delve into LiFePO4 too (LFP) - BYD's blade battery can be drilled without combustion.
    UL certification for e-bikes and re-manufactured packs will help I think - Propel Bikes also did a good episode about the perception issues around scooters and e-bikes catching fire in apartments. This does seem like a golden opportunity for Oil and Gas to exploit and fear monger about - and they seem to seizing it.
    Great to see a balanced video about batteries.

  • @litestuffllc7249
    @litestuffllc7249 Год назад +1

    Lithium Ion is a dead end for BEVs. Simple math. If a Model Y takes 20 lbs of lithium; and 100,000 lbs of lithium were produced in 2022; how many Model Ys can you make if you use lithium for nothing else? Hint - about 10 million. So what if you use half the lithium for cell phones etc.. 5 or 6 million? What is the annaul small vehicle market? 100 million!. That 100,000 tons of Lithium used 1% of the worlds fresh water to refine. So is it close to real to think you'd use 10% of the worlds fresh water and make 25% of the market? No it isn't. Add to that they catch on fire, they don't live up to range expectations, they use more CO2 to make. THey need a better battery.

  • @josephpiskac2781
    @josephpiskac2781 Год назад +5

    Great important briefing. So when my lithium battery fails how do I get rid of it?

    • @jjlarson74
      @jjlarson74 Год назад +4

      well throw it in a landfill for starters! then you shoot a few spotted owls, then change your life by going on a whale hunting expedition … eat allot of meat! and curl up by your gas fire while you stay warm in your fox-fur sleeper, (its goose down!) 😂🤣

    • @josephpiskac2781
      @josephpiskac2781 Год назад +1

      @@jjlarson74 Thanks that does help a lot.

    • @detritus23
      @detritus23 Год назад +2

      Depends on the battery and its condition. If it a standalone rechargeable, then household waste management companies may take it separately from household trash. Most big box stores (Best Buy, Staples, Home Depot) have rechargeable battery disposal boxes and will (depending on State) accept retired electronics with permanently installed batteries. Finally, some manufacturers-Apple, specifically- will accept their devices for recycling as long as it is undamaged and the battery intact (unpuffed).

    • @josephpiskac2781
      @josephpiskac2781 Год назад

      @@detritus23 The battery is puffed do you think I can leave it at Best Buy?

    • @detritus23
      @detritus23 Год назад +1

      @@josephpiskac2781 You would probably have to ask them. Puffed batteries are always dicey.

  • @YTSD
    @YTSD Год назад +1

    There are so many electric vehicles now that the Texas grid operator is sending conservation text this summer. I know it’s hot outside but it’s Texas! So it’s hot in here but now the electric grid can’t keep up because we are using the AC to keep cool and at the same time a bunch of electric vehicles owners charging their vehicles. It’s not only cars, it’s buses, bikes, scooters etc! So let’s make more electric vehicles. Also make more fire stations!

  • @bingchilindotnogo
    @bingchilindotnogo Год назад +4

    A great topic to discuss in this moment.

    • @joshhoward1289
      @joshhoward1289 Год назад

      100%. Discussion on topics of all manners is always important.