I won't write a full blown paragraph but I will say that: 1. I had no online friends 2. Warframe was the first game I touched on the PS4 3. I met alot of good friends through Warframe that I still play with to this day 4. Warframe keeps evolving and content keeps coming in (even community created content) 5. DE is one of very few game developers that listens to there community religiously 6. ....Clem!
you compare this to destiny and you've got 3 or 4 games worth of content without the bullshit "you cant use this loot" artificially increasing game time.
Palatine of facts it is absolutely rediculous how much us Tennos love this game and love hearing that other people enjoy it too. I get all smiley when I hear reviews like this.
And here I am, Skill Up, 90 hours later into Warframe after your review that got me into the game, and there is no end in sight. It is fantastic, the combat is satisfying, the community is actually amazing (polar opposite of a lot of gaming communities, like the Overwatch community) and it is so rewarding. So anyways, thank you!
First "I feel like there's nothing left to do" cap comes after 1k hours,second one 1.5k-2.5k,and if you can play 3000 hours without a very long break you're likely to be able to play indefinitely (I'm personally the type who kinda quit after 2k hours,and looks back frequently). There are dark corners of this at first sight very lovely community.Most of it comes from: -The differing opinions of youtubers and their fanbases -People who hit the before mentioned caps,and want more and better instead of DE's quite frequently lackluster updates (that simply comes from DE not having enough resources to do more&better) -Forum people being...forum people -Some of the shady stuff going on at DE's account management & community management departments.
You may think the community is great, til you realize no one gives a shit about you. It'll come. Got over 800 hours myself. Listen to a veteran and get out while you can. Or become a cash cow for DE and their sky high prices. And oh trust me you will end up spending money if you want to get ANYWHERE in it.
I'm not surprised, the game kinda sucked for a while. It was always the same framework but over the years it's been filled in and polished and now it's finally at the point that it deserves this praise. I could always feel the potential and kept checkin back in with the game until finally just a few months ago I actually got hooked. I never did before.
Remember guys, he got the *Creative Director* of *_Tom Clancy's: The Division_* to play this game; so expect *_Tom Clancy's: The Division II_* to have hovering, gliding, lances, bows, Tenno, and weapons that make music.
Skill Up, I picked this game up a couple of weeks ago and have been pestering my friends with what I thought were neat mechanics and smart design choices in a game with great style. Last night I finished The Second Dream. I sat in shock with a dumb grin on my face for probably a solid minute, then I immediately started messaging those same people, now PLEADING with them to play this game so they could experience what I thought was the most impactful gaming experiences I've encountered. The fact that this is delivered this far in a game is shocking, but what is even more incredible is that it is within a game that is Free To Play, a category that is often rightfully derided for being bereft of meaningful story or even good design. I played Warframe in 2013 and put it down after only a couple of hours, it simply wasn't for me. Now, in 2017, it's my game of the year. This game, while flawed, has grown into a masterpiece and is a testament to what a dedicated and talented team of developers can accomplish when they truly care about their product. I have nothing but respect for Digital Extremes and can't wait to experience the stories they tell in the future.
In The Second Dream when the screen went black...I somehow instantly knew what had happened, it was an incredible moment of clarity, realising who I was, and what it meant. "Dream, not of what you are..." Tenno for life.
Man.. Your videos about Warframe are full of soul and the real feeling a true Warframe player has. They touch me in strange ways, but I like it a lot. I have 650hs of this game. I'm one of those that played the first days of Warframe's Beta, and waited years without knowing what I was doing in that galaxy until Second Dream came out.That quest made my chin drops. Heart pumppin and mixed feelings almost made me cry at the end. I think their flaw is with endgame content. After so much time playing, and having everything you wanted at max level, you don't have enough stuff to do, besides playing because it's cool, and not because you wanna reach some point of the game. Now, I just play Warframe when there's a cool update that I want to try out. But.. your videos.. makes me open Warframe just to play any mission there. I think you sell Warframe better than DE theirselves. Keep on the good work, man. I'm always showing your videos to people looking for new games to play.
The actual outcome of The Second Dream is just such an Option C choice. To explain what that means, in writing and storytelling (I believe it originated in the cinematic field), there's an idea that when you write the outcome or explanation of a key detail in your story, you have three options. Option A is the easiest- it's what most people would expect, because on a surface level it makes the most sense. Option B is when you get a bit creative- not everyone would expect what happens, but it's a logical counterpart or antithesis to Option A, or can be arrived at by another line of logic, so the more astute viewers might figure it out. Option C is the core concept of the Masterstroke: something nobody in the audience could reasonably have expected, at the moment when it would be most impactful. It still makes sense, unless it doesn't need to, but for one reason or another, only the author could ever have seen it coming. The wild giraffes in The Last of Us are a brilliant masterstroke because they didn't need to be there, and are just a random touch of unexpected beauty when it would matter the most to the player. The Second Dream is different- this explanation, and these particular details of Warframe's lore, would eventually have mattered one way or another. This explanation was necessary. The Masterstroke of it was in executing this so deep into the game, both in real life and in-game, that people had been forming expectations on the subject for years, and still managing to do something completely unprecedented in its style and execution.
The irony is that for the players who were already invested into the lore, all of the clues were in the game long before the Second Dream came out. The Ember Prime codex established the true nature of the Zariman survivors, and Vor's Prize has the titular character directly state the exact relationship between the warframes and the Tenno (albeit with some poetic phrasing). The only thing we got wrong was that we believed the Tenno were energy beings, which isn't *too* far from the truth.
I've been playing Warframe for 3 years, and the meaning of The Second Dream is something I carry with great affection. The revelation I believe, has been much more shocking to those of us who have played for so long. I've always wondered if the new players could have a feeling close to what I have in relation to this quest, precisely because I think they would not have time to develop the necessary attachment. Your video made me realize that the feeling exists, and that whoever is starting today may not feel the same impact I felt, but it will have the same meaning. Thanks for this poetry in form of a video, you are one of the best acquisitions our community has ever had.
I completely agree with the fact that DE put The second dream so far into the game. It isn't that crazy if you learn *insert second dream spoiler here* before getting far in the game. The reveal completely changes what you think of the game.
TheFlameBringer I actually got it spoiled in game, but DE did so well with it being late game and people with it unlocked will probably be using later game frames. I saw a Nezha using *Second Dream reward* and I thought it was a power of that particular frame.
It also gives you enough time to develop your own headcannon and to start identifying with your warframe as being 'you'. I think that was the bit that made it so impactful.
the reason it works, is exactly because it happens so late, it comes from left field, and you dont expect it to be as impactfull as it is. and it happens late enough for you to be getting close to the end game, so you have in your head the idea that you saw everything the game has to offer. the best part is, its done so well, that it brings the people that are in just for the gameplay, and the loot, into the lore.
they really did implement so many changes, that it feels closer to warframe 3, if compared with the "vanilla" release version. from the skills changes, to the ovehaul of the parkour system, to the adition of the archwing(even when people dont enjoy it as much as me), to even the change of the relics and mod fusion, or the rework of the bosses. the game is completely diferent now.
"What makes this a masterstroke is Digital Extreme's decision to gate the quest behind 100 hours or more of game play", meanwhile all who have played Warframe since the launch know that it's more likely they threw a dart at the star chart and said "They'll unlock it there"
I was 80 hours into WF when I got to the second dream. Before hand me and my buddy were only playing to have fun, gameplay was amazing but story was almost nonexistent. My buddy got to the second dream before I did and simply told me “get off our chat, and go play this” and I did. And what blew me away the most about this quest wasn’t just how well designed it was, not how shocking, not how far into the game it is. But how the Tenno are not super soldiers, not gods, not beings higher than us. But scared, fragile, broken children, they are the child within us. And after this I rushed through and made it to new war, hands down the best quest in the game. But possibly one of the greatest quests ever next to the second dream. My buddy (like I before second dream) was falling off and wasn’t sure if it was worth it. I repayed him by buying him the Necramech (he can’t really grind because of his work life) and I simply told him “go save space mom.” And 6 hours after that he simply told me “hey it’s 2 am over here and I just got done with the quest, easy 9/10.” He helped me in April, and I helped him in August, and I don’t regret grinding through this game and paying to have my buddy finish the story because personally it was all worth it.
@@gabekillaire1588 The War Within is cool but just cannot compare to The Second Dream. Before you go through the second dream you have a completely different perception of the game itself. As he wrote it in the description, it is "just" this weird space ninja action game. It confuses you on many levels but it is kind of fun so you keep going even though there are things that frustrate you (like a hell of a lot of missing / badly displayed information within the game). And then you reach this point, the cutscene starts and suddenly everything you thought you knew about the game falls apart, changes, and becomes absolutely amazing. DE is damn brave to put this so far into the game, many people will have quit the game before reaching this point and will never see it, but those who bite through the few shortcomings of the game will be greatly rewarded by one of the best moments in their gaming history. I'm pretty sure a lot of those who make it past this point end up to be very loyal fans of the game and that's incredibly important for developers who kinda do their own thing instead of following common market practices.
I finished those quests over the weekend and watched your stream highlights soon after. Mere hours after that you posted this and it really reflected how I feel about these quests too. They are pivotal to, at least, my motivation as a space ninja and keep on doing the quests. I cannot even imagine the impact this quest have on the more veteran players. I hope you are not discouraged by those who thinks you are doing this as a mere advertisement and not a genuine response. I think your responses in the streams were genuine and this video is your way to express this. Anw! Great video as usual! See you around tenno.
As a veteran player (about 1700 hours of game play) both quests made me tear up. It was all I could think and talk about weeks after completing it. @Skill Up, I just wanted to say how much I loved this review.
As a more or less veteran player (+800 hours in since update 13) and really invested in the lore, The Second Dream made me scream in the middle of the night and War Within gave me unreal amounts of goosebumps. The amount of lore bombs and quality of the gameplay, soundtrack and storytelling just made me think back to this quest even several months afterward. Btw Skill Up, gg on both quests. Your double fail to survive the purge in your own ship will never be forgotten xD
With around 900 hours ingame, and around double that if I count console too (I play both), and since update 8 I can say that the cinematic quests were pretty much the best thing to happen to Warframe >.
I had an extremely long comment comparing destiny and warframe, but for the sake of not wasting anyones time I will say this about my experience as someone who has played both since launch. “Warframe never feels like time wasted, I can go at my own pace, and it is consistently rewarding. Whereas I frequently question myself as to why I continue to play destiny, when I seldom feel rewarded for the amount of time I put into the game.” Thanks for reading if you did.
The way you do these videos is a masterpiece in itself, talking about the true essence of the game with that smooth relaxing videos. Defiantly one of my favourite channels to watch on youtube, keep up the good videos.
Dude I've grinded for all my gear. I have every prime frame even the vaulted ones (not Excalibur tho) made enough plat from trading to get all I want for fashion frame I.e deluxe skins armor and other such. And I have invested a great time in the game and feel prideful about it. I'm sure lots of us can say that it feels good go show a newbie the ropes or have them admire our hard work. The grind for me could get boring but I still like going around and killing everything with my ash like I'm guts from berseker with my huge anime sword(heavy blade skin). So as a older Tenno to you, keep enjoying the game and having fun with it. I know I do.
I remember the first time I was ejected from my ship, and the archwing connected. The cinematic, the suspense. I was hooked for life. I know a lot of others hate archwing missions. I absolutely love them. I'm excited to see what rail jack brings to the table.
@gotenks42 Bro, Archwing fucking sucks, is boring, pointless and BROKEN. The Quest called Archwing and the cinematic were pretty epic, but just that. We all hope they fix archwing and make it more interesting when Railjack comes out. The only time i actually got fun with the Archwing was in the Plains and the Vallis. btw, i kinda wanna know why you like them
It honestly pains me to see steam reviews of warframe where it’s like “player 1 hours” and the dude says “pay to win” because you can buy all the guns for platinum but they don’t know you can buy the blueprint for credits
Akoda I'm like 2 months into the game and I recently finished the war within. I still have a long way to go lol. Imagine.... that's how awesome this game is
well mostly because it has averything i love about games: good lore, fun characters, actionpacked gameplay, challanges in the lategame, deep charactercustomization, interresting factions (long live the corpus!), a plasma LMG, good melee, great music and an amazing storyline. all of that keeps me engaged. (not without breaks ofcourse, sometimes i takes a 2 week break to play other games but i ALWAYS coem back after 2 weeks even if its just to visit baro'ki'teer and see what he offers this fortnight.
Been faithful to warframe for almost 3 years. Never leaving on burnout like most. I guess that's why I've gotten so good at it. Keep it up Skill Up. It gets better with time. Great review dude.
I think a big issue with Warframe burnout is most (not all) should take it in chunks. The game is good, yes, but it’s also extremely grindy. Playing it for hours on end, every day will guarantee burn most people out real quick.
i can't stop playing warframe！thats a huge problem for me！im a LOL zed main sitting at platinum 3 and before watching your review i was at platinum 1！i wanted to hit diamond this season. What the hell happened? Now I don't even want to play LOL anymore. Damn your review skill up!
Whenever I'm feeling disappointed because I don't have many friends that appreciate the same games or entertainment I do, I often come back to this video. SkillUp knows how to set up a narrative like no other reviewer I know, and deliver and deliver a satisfying payoff while explaining the best and worst parts about an experience. This is one of his best videos ever, showing off his creative skill, while setting up a clear argument for what makes the Second Dream incredible. Seeing someone else appreciate the Second Dream this much gives me confidence that I'm not crazy. This is one of the most amazing experiences in gaming. I'm glad I got to play it when it released. And it gives me more confidence that my preferences and tastes in gaming are valid.
Got into Warframe to pass the time waiting for Destiny 2, hoping it wouldn't grab me. 30 hrs later, I'm it's bitch, still at the tip of the iceberg content-wise, and with D2 just around the corner. Fuuuuuu...* I blame you, Skill Up. :p
30 hours ? Oh you are like a frog at the bottom of a well. Totally unaware of the vastness outside and blind to the harsh task this wall climb (grind) is. Remember to always pray to RNGsus and maybe (if u sacrifice your first borne) you will only be 1-2 thousand hours away from obtaining the freedom.
Asimov Vomisa oh, I'm so totally aware how grindy this thing is. Destiny ain't got nothing on it. It wasn't only til yesterday that I got my second frame, with still two others in the virtual oven.
I think I was at about 100-150 hours or so. A few were from 2013 but I came back pre PoE and started to properly get into the game. I'm at 650 hours now, even though I have no one for any of the group stuff like vaults or eidolons.
I had my hands in my face, shaking my head, because I could not believe what i just experienced was from a free game. That feeling of "i cant even" euphoria lasted hours, and well into the mid-afternoon the next day. I don't think I've felt that way about a video game since FFVII. Incredible, yet restrained, piece of work from DE.
Ejodai My friends and I downloaded Warframe after watching the review Skill Up did. All of us are quite shocked, surprised and also disappointed. Shocked that a free to play game is this good, surprised it has mountains of content. Disappointed we didn't play it sooner. We downloaded it 5th Aug. Clocked in a huge amount of hours amongst us and just at Jupiter. Now..with Destiny 2 on the horizon..and Plains of Eidelon..I know where my time is going..DE..you've got our groups full attention. Keep up the great work. Skill up, thanks for catching our attention with your review.👍
Kylo Ren Oh I will! What I have done is avoid spoilers for the quest lines. Fortunately everyone puts up alerts on their videos so I switch them off at that point. Then bide my time to watch them once I've pushed passed that part. It's been nearly two weeks since we started, I've now got 4 frames and about to complete another 3. Now..there are about a couple of dozen frames to go..so much content! I actually purchased Oberon Prime. I felt compelled to pay for what I've received from this game so far. Did I feel cheated or aggrieved upon buying the pack? Not in the slightest. With buying things like ME andromeda, Battleborn..in the past. No way do I feel cheated. I feel thankful that a company created this game to play, enjoy and still expand upon. Great simple touches make all the differences here. Damned nice community too!
Toza dude same with me. I got the Oberon prime access and accessories pack too. Why? Because it's given me such an amazing experience that will continue to last in comparison to triple a titles with 1 or 2 year lifespans and absolutely almost no big updates that will grab and hook me again.
Update as of December 2023: Digital Extremes is releasing the Whispers in the Walls content, which is going to decouple Mastery Rank from story quest prerequisites, and the previous update, Abyss of Dagath, also included a number of quest and Junction streamlines, and also improved the free mods you get from the early game and upgraded the base starting weapons you get from the first quest you play...making the bulk of the early game MUCH smoother...to the point where if a person is focused up enough, they can probably reach Second Dream in a week, or even less, a single day. There's still a lot to do in the early game, but I don't feel this makes Second Dream any less of a masterstroke, just because it no longer takes anywhere near 100 or 150 hours to reach it.
The most incredible part of Warframe is the depth. Just as soon as you think you have it figured out, they introduce a new system that completely shakes things up. It just keeps going and going.
Nicely done mate! Can't wait to be able to push forwards to these quests. Isn't it refreshing to not be charged $60+ for a front-loaded, light content game only to be disappointed by the ending that fizzles instead of pops?
How do you not have more subscribers? Your content is of such high quality its incredible. I'm watching you talk about a video game but I FEEL like I'm being told an incredible story with a beginning, climax, and conclusion. I am literally getting chills just from watching these videos you make. Your use of storytelling and powerful imagery along with a broad knowledge of the topic is simply breathtaking. You are incredible.
I always saw people asking for help with the quest in the chat, in the earlier times around when I came back to the game last summer and I never understood what they were talking about. (Had only given it the week it had before destiny beforehand since I thought the free plat was the end of it, and I had no idea what to even do). When I accidentally stumbled my way into it, rather than using a guide, my mind blew by the fact I even walked into a bunch of cutscenes. It took me longer to realize what I was even doing, but I knew it was huge. Then the reveal took me by storm and the music roared something inside my heart me only halo's ever could do. Even loving destiny's soundtrack didn't touch base with it either (maybe some of D2's tho cx ) Afterwards, I fell for the game harder than anything ever before, it basically sucked my summer vacation dry. The Second Dream will forever remain one of the most moving experiences a game has ever offered me.
I've been seeing videos, like this one, pop up all over RUclips. Praising Warframe and for the most part I agree and it gets me excited. However, having already put 400 hours into this game 2 years ago, when I jump in now, there are so many new game mechanics and systems that it leaves me overwhelmed. I want to play this again and get into it but I have no idea where I left off and where to begin.
Just do the micro quest " the level to unlock new planet" this is the progression system now. It also give big quest , like war within or second dream.
Zemo do research that what I do took me 2 weeks to finish the whole star chart by myself. If someone help me it will take least then 1 week. If your on Pc add me Username: Dragonfriday I teach you the ways Tenno, you were asleep for a long time
Yes DE's attitude to the new player experience, or even the old returner is pathetic at best. Its like they almost do not want new players to continue playing the game, appalling is the word I was looking for.
To progress, refer to the planet junctions starting on the ones on Earth. As long as you complete the junction requirements, you'll find progress through the game fairly easy.
Zemo Simply find people to ask questions a bunch of old players are friendly to people that want to learn considering i help new players out sometimes via carrying them through tough missions explaining to them how to mod stuff.
I'm literally starting the second dream quest right this second!!! I love your videos @Skillup. You're the reason I started playing Warframe and I am so glad you made your review. This is one of my top games now. I'm in a clan now and I have made sooooo many new, kind, and experienced players who are now my friends. Thank you for everything you do.
Once again I am amazed with how eloquent you are with your words, you truly do the game justice and put into words what I simply could not. Thank you for this.
Skill Up i've played it three times and everytime i came to this view, i stopped there and i let it play for 30 minutes straight. It's just amazing how happy Ellie and Joe are there.
Kinda forgot what Second Dream is. Not because it was bad, but because when I played through it I was like "Yep, that's DE for you". An absolutely incredible part of the game. The story is the only thing that's keeping me tied to this game after 6 years.
The elegance on how you Explain what this game really is , is a master stroke in it's self , the way this game has evolved is amazing , when seeing Tenno Con 17, I was so hooked. And when I came back my brother a long time player was excited for me because of the Second Dream and the War Within. To see my reaction as to see it for himself for the first time. Thank you and other long time RUclips content providers for giving this game a voice.
Two words Skill Up, thank you. I enjoy your content. It is so refreshing to hear intelligent analysis, poetic articulation and passion. This is what makes You Tube so cool. So again, thank you. I am becoming a Warframer.
You are a master narrator and story teller, which is why I watch every one of your videos. I don't like Warframe, even though I've tried several times to get into it, but nonetheless you make thoughtful and interesting videos, which keep me coming back. Your Division videos are still my favorite, as is the game.
Thanks for the heart, but you really deserved it. You make videos that I haven't seen anywhere, which are so delightful to listen to, and give a real insight into the games you talk about. You should be proud of this video, and all of your other ones as well.
DE should remaster the older quests before Second Dream. The quests before Second Dream are very outdated in terms of their production values compared to the ones after. As a long time Warframe player I wouldn't mind also if DE created quests that take place before the continuity of Second Dream.
I know your comment is a year old, but I thought I'd mention: Steve and Rebecca did an interview with Mogamu, and they touched on this. Basically, nearly everyone in the studio works on every part of the game, new and old. They have so much they want to do to the "new player experience." But that coupled with the larger expansions they have, and will be putting out. They know they have spread themselves too thin. So as they like to say on devstream, "it's in the works." Lol
I watched this video 3 years ago. Before then I'd never heard of Warframe... I downloaded it the next day. Thank you for introducing me to this amazing game.
As someone who as nearing 2000 hours in Warframe, this video made me smile so much. The way you describe the Second Dream and the concept of a master stroke is EXACTLY why I wish more people would give Warframe a 2nd chance. I know so many people who stopped playing Warframe with less than 100 hours in the game because they got bored of it or found it too repetitive. Its a shame because the wait for the Second Dream and what lays ahead of it is so undeniably worth it. Also thank you for this video. You have very quickly become one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
Kinda bummed that you used Dark Souls in your "masterpiece, but no masterstroke" footage. It had a masterstroke if I've ever seen one - right at the very end of the very last game, when the theme of the Soul merges with that of Gwyn. Never have I witnessed a series (be it book, game or TV) ending a story so perfectly. Everything there is to be told has been told, and this change of theme reveals (to the observant player) that everything they did for hundreds of hours, through three long-ass games, was, in the end, futile, as the fire will just fade again after your soul was added to the Soul of Cinder. That's why I believe the fading of the flame is the true ending of Dark Souls. It doesn't corrupt the fire, as that would leave a fire to be rekindled (which is why both Dark Souls 1 endings work perfectly fine with the overall lore), and it doesn't rekindle the fire. The wheel doesn't stop turning, it is shattered.
"300 hours or more..." Then there's us, the ones who have played this game for thousands of hours. The ones who've played the game since it began. The ones who speculated, theorized, and waited for years. The Second Dream was and is very special to us.
yeah, I remembered every theory of Warframe back in 2013. And the Second Dream is basically the "naah, no way, this doesn't make any sense" theory and bombed us with this ending makes the whole twist is more crazier.
As always keep up the good work skill!! After your initial video I started playing and have been loving it. I am approaching the 70 hour mark. I am excited to reach the second dream. But I am enjoying every minute leading up to it!
I just recently begun to play this game, i'm just a few hours into it; i only unlocked Venus and got my first mastery exam and i'm completely into it! From the awesome gameplay, the possibilities with the Warframes and how you can actually get them by playing and grinding like a Champ, and how his world felt deeper than AAA games like Destiny or Tom Clancy's games (With it's exceptions of course) made me belief! I have to admit this is one of the best F2p games i have ever played and i'm pretty happy to say that by now, i'm a full and proud Tenno for life, i'm glad i found this game and it's awesome community, and thanks for make me understand what lies ahead in this experience!
I still really don't get Warframe I honestly tried it for a month straight but and while I do see why people like it I just don't see the hook that keeps them there
Your review of the game when you first started playing got me back into it and I am loving it! So thank you for the last 150 hours of gameplay (so far) that you’ve given me!
just like the quest, this video was well made. i really like it when people talk about things that make some games so special. the reveal of anor londo in dks1 beats any other reveal in dks3 because we have been fighting through dingy and brutal fights to see this amazing spectacle that me and many other players never saw coming. dks 3 shows its beautiful views at the start and it doesn't feel nearly as satisfying as anor londo does, the reveal of irithyl could have been something even more special if the whole game wasn't big reveals on beautiful areas beforehand. games need to pace special and memorable moments perfectly through their games or they just won't be memorable. if the whole of warframe had been twists and lore bombs, you expect it with every quest, when you know something huge is coming it ruins the element completely. side note i didn't even know i cared about this topic nearly as much as i did until i watched this video, thanks my dude
TheDustyChinchilla 'warframe is amazing' Financially stable player who simply likes coming home after a long day, and booting up a casual loot grinder, with some of the pest customisation options in gaming. Realizing that fashion frame is true end game,and that running missions beyond 1hour means Insta-death enemies, they instead use their time finding innovative ways to farm resources, and keep themselves busy by building a clan solely for the purpose of investing said resources into something. They also have spend quite a pretty penny on cosmetics and forma bundles.
Well , as a veteran i played warframe for fun , and i was afk a long time , i played so much that i don't have to farm ressources , only prime. (exept those fucking nitain.)
I've played Warframe and Destiny a lot now, around 200 hours in each, and I can honestly say I prefer Destiny. Lots of people say that Destiny is grindy, and it totally is, but at least there's a goal (beat raid on hard mode/get max gear score). Warframe feels like those clicker games like AdVenture Capitalist where you think it's fun until you realize you could be playing forever and there's no real satisfaction that comes with beating a raid. Finishing the star map is pretty underwhelming, and maxing out a frame only to realize there are 50 others to unlock just doesn't feel good. Warframe is just grinding the same missions over and over with a tileset that you've seen hundreds of times before just to get the resources needed for your next frame. It lacks the sense of discovery I got when I first started playing Destiny. Once you've been to a few planets in Warframe, you know that's what the rest of the game is going to be like except for some strange quests later on.
Second dream is probably my favorite quest in my entire gaming life... I don't think I was ever moved by a video games quest the way second dream did.. It hit me on an emotional level I've rarely felt in everyday life.. Love your channel keep up the good work and glad to have you in the Warframe community
I very rarely comment on videos, but ive been following u for awhile skillup and just wanted to ty for the passion u bring to ur videos. Always speaking intellectually, i always have to sit and think about what i just watch. Ur work is superb and i cant wait for ur masterstroke!!! Well played sir.
I remember, after completing that quest, I kept sitting on my chair for around an hour without doing anything. The screams of Margulis were ringing in my head, and I was crying as if I have lost someone who was really dear to me. I have not played much games, but even if I did, I would still say Margulis and Lotus are two of the best mother-figures among the whole gaming industry.
I found your channel in the days of weekly vendor resets, and controversial opinions. You stood out back then, and now you're really coming into your own. The new style is amazing, well thought out, and well executed. Keep up the great work! I look forward to what comes next.
The Second Dream was fantastic I just experienced it a few weeks ago and you’re right, the emotion wouldn’t have been the same if it was just given cheaply and quickly; you have feel the development of the story, live with the characters for a while. You know it was special to you because when you try to describe what had happened the person opposite you looks blankly and says “...cool” I had the same moment trying to describe the BSG episode Unfinished Business or trying to describe Bioshock. Loving this game and glad you’re reviewing it and helping giving it the spotlight it deserves. Keep it up dude!
My dude you have a way with words. I tune in to your channel because you give evenhanded reviews of games and I sense an honesty\passion with your work. I can honestly say I will try this game because of you
@Skill Up I just want to tell you that im so glad you made it through the second dream, congratulations. I also would like to inform you that in the codex there are bios on specific warframes that explain a hidden past in pieces. Bios such as: excalibur, ember prime, rhino prime, mag prime, and the stalker. What makes this special is the fact it was here for 2 years before the second dream was even announced. DE is amazing! And I hope your read this.
honestly the fact most people quit before reaching second dream i think just proves that warframe only rewards players who are willing to put in the effort. if you are unable to do the 20 to 30 hour grind to reach second dream then you havent earned the right to witness one of the best moments in gaming. the moment when you see just how deep the rabbit hole goes and once you have begone desending you will never want to stop till you reach its end
dammit skill up ... you always bring tears to my eyes... because its true what you say, few games can bring such a nice comunity and for so long, like this game... and you did not suckup to no one, it was this same comunity that embrace you and wanted to show up some of the best parts of this game that we all love and cherish so much. i hope you have a great time in the future and i wish you well on your future missions tenno.
Damn you Mr Skill Up! Every time I have a frustrating time on Warframe (usually after a Spy mission, grrr) I think I will take and break and do something else with my time (such as talk to my wife, walk the dogs, watch tv, bathe, eat, etc). I then, however, hop on to RUclips and inevitably catch your latest vids. Your goddam enthusiasm for this game just reminds me why I am playing the game in the first place. The grind is on!!
Warframe is the single most beautiful game I have ever played. From when I started to now I've subconsciously appreciated what de have done and how they have told Warframe story and you have put everything I have been feeling about this master peice into words that I would have never found and for that I thank you skill up.
"Vanishing Grace", the name of the piece that plays during that iconic Last of Us scene, I think has, to be one of my favorite gaming pieces ever. Its either that or "Dearly Beloved" from Kingdom Hearts. Its so subtle, and haunting, but beautiful and when you analyse, there's so much more room to add other melodies, harmonies or other instruments but it's perfect as it is because of where in the game it's placed. Gustavo you are a legend in my eyes
THANK YOU!!! this video explain exactly the experience i had when i played second dream..... that awesome... The incredible feeling of satisfaction, adrenaline and reward after o many hours playing the game.... warframe Has a fantastic character. When you think you've seen everything it has to offer, it surprises you with a new mechanic or something totally different from what you've been experiencing
I won't write a full blown paragraph but I will say that:
1. I had no online friends
2. Warframe was the first game I touched on the PS4
3. I met alot of good friends through Warframe that I still play with to this day
4. Warframe keeps evolving and content keeps coming in (even community created content)
5. DE is one of very few game developers that listens to there community religiously
6. ....Clem!
7 space mom , 8 space megan , 9 i feel ya
Clem
Clem!
Clem
CLEM
the second dream quest made the game feel like a $60 game.
warframe is a $200 game tbh. but its free and that makes it better.
you compare this to destiny and you've got 3 or 4 games worth of content without the bullshit "you cant use this loot" artificially increasing game time.
MR fodder is cancer
Can definitely confirm this
not for me because it didn't ran on 20+ FPS all the time xD
u had to wait 150 hours to play the second dream, I WAITED 3 YEARS, UR LUCKY NEW PLAYERS
I had 87 when I completed second dream, haha.
I’m JUST now starting it ... jumped back in after wasting my life wit Destiny 1.. and 2 lol .. and man I can’t put it down
Royal Cronana only 3 years mate? Over 4 here
yeah beem waiting since update 11.
Been waiting since Beta.
am i the only one who started smiling as soon as he said second dream?
really btfo'd by this game, especially the fomorians and how they destroy relays forever, and you can avenge them with raids !
THe COntrarian Dude. I smiled and tears came out suddenly and shivers all over.
Palatine of facts it is absolutely rediculous how much us Tennos love this game and love hearing that other people enjoy it too. I get all smiley when I hear reviews like this.
No. That quest was beautifully done
NOPE
And here I am, Skill Up, 90 hours later into Warframe after your review that got me into the game, and there is no end in sight. It is fantastic, the combat is satisfying, the community is actually amazing (polar opposite of a lot of gaming communities, like the Overwatch community) and it is so rewarding. So anyways, thank you!
+BigLittle Gamer welcome :=
You don't need a hazmat suit to be in the Warframe community
amirite
BigLittle Gamer I play overwatch but warframe is where im nice to people because i didnt get stage 3 cancer from playing it like overwatch.
First "I feel like there's nothing left to do" cap comes after 1k hours,second one 1.5k-2.5k,and if you can play 3000 hours without a very long break you're likely to be able to play indefinitely (I'm personally the type who kinda quit after 2k hours,and looks back frequently).
There are dark corners of this at first sight very lovely community.Most of it comes from:
-The differing opinions of youtubers and their fanbases
-People who hit the before mentioned caps,and want more and better instead of DE's quite frequently lackluster updates (that simply comes from DE not having enough resources to do more&better)
-Forum people being...forum people
-Some of the shady stuff going on at DE's account management & community management departments.
You may think the community is great, til you realize no one gives a shit about you. It'll come. Got over 800 hours myself. Listen to a veteran and get out while you can. Or become a cash cow for DE and their sky high prices. And oh trust me you will end up spending money if you want to get ANYWHERE in it.
Can not believe it took warframe four years to get the recognition it deserves. Thanks skill up and continue on.
The game is very different from what it was like 4 years ago though, it's wasn't that good at all
As a vet yeah , warframe isn't warframe anymore , it's warframe 2 or 3 .
Chances are were moving up to Warframe 4 soon
i just commented something very similar in another post, lol, warframe changed so much that its closer to warframe 3 than the release version.
I'm not surprised, the game kinda sucked for a while. It was always the same framework but over the years it's been filled in and polished and now it's finally at the point that it deserves this praise. I could always feel the potential and kept checkin back in with the game until finally just a few months ago I actually got hooked. I never did before.
Remember guys, he got the *Creative Director* of *_Tom Clancy's: The Division_* to play this game; so expect *_Tom Clancy's: The Division II_* to have hovering, gliding, lances, bows, Tenno, and weapons that make music.
yo we got exploding crossbow i think that's a start?
Most of hours in Warframe are just me standing around in my ship afk
That's every warframe player ever.
gabe killaire Staring at trade chat*
gabe killaire join a clan do sorties go raid
Sliding down the ramp while waiting for something to do, 10/10
Probably about 50 hours spent on that alone
Skill Up, I picked this game up a couple of weeks ago and have been pestering my friends with what I thought were neat mechanics and smart design choices in a game with great style. Last night I finished The Second Dream. I sat in shock with a dumb grin on my face for probably a solid minute, then I immediately started messaging those same people, now PLEADING with them to play this game so they could experience what I thought was the most impactful gaming experiences I've encountered. The fact that this is delivered this far in a game is shocking, but what is even more incredible is that it is within a game that is Free To Play, a category that is often rightfully derided for being bereft of meaningful story or even good design.
I played Warframe in 2013 and put it down after only a couple of hours, it simply wasn't for me. Now, in 2017, it's my game of the year. This game, while flawed, has grown into a masterpiece and is a testament to what a dedicated and talented team of developers can accomplish when they truly care about their product. I have nothing but respect for Digital Extremes and can't wait to experience the stories they tell in the future.
Well shit...
The longer time you spent exploring the game before doing the second dream, the better it will feel.
Hopefully they add Clem Prime soon.
They better
prime clem
Clem Vandal
i buy it for 100 bucks man
Clem wraith is more reasonable
Knew you would make this video because of how long you were baffled that you were 150h into the game
In The Second Dream when the screen went black...I somehow instantly knew what had happened, it was an incredible moment of clarity, realising who I was, and what it meant. "Dream, not of what you are..."
Tenno for life.
And then the Lotus stabbed us in the back a few quests later
@@jacobmathewkeluthara2867 And then Ballas stabbed her in the back.
@@LukiKruki And we stab Ballas. Lotta stabbing.
@@mightyiron5552 Ballas stabbed Lotus in her back and that's how Tenno born. The end.
@@mightyiron5552 and then ballas stubed us... and then we... and then mom.. what the fuck..........
Man.. Your videos about Warframe are full of soul and the real feeling a true Warframe player has. They touch me in strange ways, but I like it a lot. I have 650hs of this game. I'm one of those that played the first days of Warframe's Beta, and waited years without knowing what I was doing in that galaxy until Second Dream came out.That quest made my chin drops. Heart pumppin and mixed feelings almost made me cry at the end. I think their flaw is with endgame content. After so much time playing, and having everything you wanted at max level, you don't have enough stuff to do, besides playing because it's cool, and not because you wanna reach some point of the game. Now, I just play Warframe when there's a cool update that I want to try out. But.. your videos.. makes me open Warframe just to play any mission there. I think you sell Warframe better than DE theirselves. Keep on the good work, man. I'm always showing your videos to people looking for new games to play.
The actual outcome of The Second Dream is just such an Option C choice. To explain what that means, in writing and storytelling (I believe it originated in the cinematic field), there's an idea that when you write the outcome or explanation of a key detail in your story, you have three options. Option A is the easiest- it's what most people would expect, because on a surface level it makes the most sense. Option B is when you get a bit creative- not everyone would expect what happens, but it's a logical counterpart or antithesis to Option A, or can be arrived at by another line of logic, so the more astute viewers might figure it out.
Option C is the core concept of the Masterstroke: something nobody in the audience could reasonably have expected, at the moment when it would be most impactful. It still makes sense, unless it doesn't need to, but for one reason or another, only the author could ever have seen it coming. The wild giraffes in The Last of Us are a brilliant masterstroke because they didn't need to be there, and are just a random touch of unexpected beauty when it would matter the most to the player. The Second Dream is different- this explanation, and these particular details of Warframe's lore, would eventually have mattered one way or another. This explanation was necessary. The Masterstroke of it was in executing this so deep into the game, both in real life and in-game, that people had been forming expectations on the subject for years, and still managing to do something completely unprecedented in its style and execution.
The irony is that for the players who were already invested into the lore, all of the clues were in the game long before the Second Dream came out.
The Ember Prime codex established the true nature of the Zariman survivors, and Vor's Prize has the titular character directly state the exact relationship between the warframes and the Tenno (albeit with some poetic phrasing).
The only thing we got wrong was that we believed the Tenno were energy beings, which isn't *too* far from the truth.
I've been playing Warframe for 3 years, and the meaning of The Second Dream is something I carry with great affection. The revelation I believe, has been much more shocking to those of us who have played for so long. I've always wondered if the new players could have a feeling close to what I have in relation to this quest, precisely because I think they would not have time to develop the necessary attachment.
Your video made me realize that the feeling exists, and that whoever is starting today may not feel the same impact I felt, but it will have the same meaning.
Thanks for this poetry in form of a video, you are one of the best acquisitions our community has ever had.
Cheers mate :)
I was playing when Loki was a starting frame, mind was completely blown when I played The Second Dream.
I started warframe a couple of months ago and the quest hit me hard. Maby not as hard as it hit you but the exicution of it was flawless.
well i had played for 230 hours befor second dream and its prob one of the best quests i have played in a long while ^^
I’m new and had that feeling. My friends hate warframe yet they don’t realize the masterpiece that the game is
I completely agree with the fact that DE put The second dream so far into the game. It isn't that crazy if you learn *insert second dream spoiler here* before getting far in the game. The reveal completely changes what you think of the game.
TheFlameBringer it is my carrot on the stick. I have fought every urge to watch it on RUclips.
I am about 50-60 hours away from it.
TheFlameBringer I actually got it spoiled in game, but DE did so well with it being late game and people with it unlocked will probably be using later game frames. I saw a Nezha using *Second Dream reward* and I thought it was a power of that particular frame.
Stacy Hilt you can do it in the first 30 or so hours as long as you make sure you level your frames and weapons and mod them properly
It also gives you enough time to develop your own headcannon and to start identifying with your warframe as being 'you'. I think that was the bit that made it so impactful.
the reason it works, is exactly because it happens so late, it comes from left field, and you dont expect it to be as impactfull as it is. and it happens late enough for you to be getting close to the end game, so you have in your head the idea that you saw everything the game has to offer.
the best part is, its done so well, that it brings the people that are in just for the gameplay, and the loot, into the lore.
Warframe is the perfect example of a bottle of fine wine in gaming, and that is that it gets better with age...
So true!
That exactly it.
Agree indeed
Well said
they really did implement so many changes, that it feels closer to warframe 3, if compared with the "vanilla" release version. from the skills changes, to the ovehaul of the parkour system, to the adition of the archwing(even when people dont enjoy it as much as me), to even the change of the relics and mod fusion, or the rework of the bosses.
the game is completely diferent now.
"What makes this a masterstroke is Digital Extreme's decision to gate the quest behind 100 hours or more of game play", meanwhile all who have played Warframe since the launch know that it's more likely they threw a dart at the star chart and said "They'll unlock it there"
[GARA AND GARUDA INTENSIFY]
XAndroid1 PTSD from trying to find drones intensifying
@@rileymoore7025 Hey Gara has an actual lore reason as to why she's unlocked in the plains.
Garuda... well...
@@PeterComputerino yeah...... they can't b.s their way out that one.
I was 80 hours into WF when I got to the second dream. Before hand me and my buddy were only playing to have fun, gameplay was amazing but story was almost nonexistent. My buddy got to the second dream before I did and simply told me “get off our chat, and go play this” and I did. And what blew me away the most about this quest wasn’t just how well designed it was, not how shocking, not how far into the game it is. But how the Tenno are not super soldiers, not gods, not beings higher than us. But scared, fragile, broken children, they are the child within us. And after this I rushed through and made it to new war, hands down the best quest in the game. But possibly one of the greatest quests ever next to the second dream. My buddy (like I before second dream) was falling off and wasn’t sure if it was worth it. I repayed him by buying him the Necramech (he can’t really grind because of his work life) and I simply told him “go save space mom.” And 6 hours after that he simply told me “hey it’s 2 am over here and I just got done with the quest, easy 9/10.” He helped me in April, and I helped him in August, and I don’t regret grinding through this game and paying to have my buddy finish the story because personally it was all worth it.
Today I completed "The Second Dream" quest, I was speechless...
Octavian Lari The War Within is the good one
@@gabekillaire1588 The War Within is cool but just cannot compare to The Second Dream.
Before you go through the second dream you have a completely different perception of the game itself.
As he wrote it in the description, it is "just" this weird space ninja action game. It confuses you on many levels but it is kind of fun so you keep going even though there are things that frustrate you (like a hell of a lot of missing / badly displayed information within the game). And then you reach this point, the cutscene starts and suddenly everything you thought you knew about the game falls apart, changes, and becomes absolutely amazing.
DE is damn brave to put this so far into the game, many people will have quit the game before reaching this point and will never see it, but those who bite through the few shortcomings of the game will be greatly rewarded by one of the best moments in their gaming history. I'm pretty sure a lot of those who make it past this point end up to be very loyal fans of the game and that's incredibly important for developers who kinda do their own thing instead of following common market practices.
people cried when the Second Dream first dropped.
Not out of happiness tho.
raped Slime i don't know yours, but my tears were from joy
I cried
u almost have the same as me... creepy
I didn't cry, maybe you just a snowflake.
I finished those quests over the weekend and watched your stream highlights soon after. Mere hours after that you posted this and it really reflected how I feel about these quests too. They are pivotal to, at least, my motivation as a space ninja and keep on doing the quests. I cannot even imagine the impact this quest have on the more veteran players.
I hope you are not discouraged by those who thinks you are doing this as a mere advertisement and not a genuine response. I think your responses in the streams were genuine and this video is your way to express this. Anw! Great video as usual! See you around tenno.
Thanks very much for the support :)
As a veteran player (about 1700 hours of game play) both quests made me tear up. It was all I could think and talk about weeks after completing it.
@Skill Up, I just wanted to say how much I loved this review.
As a more or less veteran player (+800 hours in since update 13) and really invested in the lore, The Second Dream made me scream in the middle of the night and War Within gave me unreal amounts of goosebumps. The amount of lore bombs and quality of the gameplay, soundtrack and storytelling just made me think back to this quest even several months afterward.
Btw Skill Up, gg on both quests. Your double fail to survive the purge in your own ship will never be forgotten xD
kontradictions Same 1300 hours vet pround of myself to be a tenno
With around 900 hours ingame, and around double that if I count console too (I play both), and since update 8 I can say that the cinematic quests were pretty much the best thing to happen to Warframe >.
Friendship ended with Valve
Now Digital Extremes is my best friend
Valve is proudy
I had an extremely long comment comparing destiny and warframe, but for the sake of not wasting anyones time I will say this about my experience as someone who has played both since launch.
“Warframe never feels like time wasted, I can go at my own pace, and it is consistently rewarding. Whereas I frequently question myself as to why I continue to play destiny, when I seldom feel rewarded for the amount of time I put into the game.”
Thanks for reading if you did.
The way you do these videos is a masterpiece in itself, talking about the true essence of the game with that smooth relaxing videos. Defiantly one of my favourite channels to watch on youtube, keep up the good videos.
Cheers mate :)
DEFIANT DEFIANT DEFIANT
The Second Dream is amazing. Only quest in any video game that gave me goosebumps.
Play Souls/Borne then learn the lore after that play again and have goosebumbs with addition of master onion ninjas :D
Didnt play the witcher series did you
top legend war within too
top legend Someone hasn't played a souls game.
I get goosebumps everytime I just listen to the theme. The flush of emotions is just overwhelming.
Dude I've grinded for all my gear. I have every prime frame even the vaulted ones (not Excalibur tho) made enough plat from trading to get all I want for fashion frame I.e deluxe skins armor and other such. And I have invested a great time in the game and feel prideful about it. I'm sure lots of us can say that it feels good go show a newbie the ropes or have them admire our hard work. The grind for me could get boring but I still like going around and killing everything with my ash like I'm guts from berseker with my huge anime sword(heavy blade skin). So as a older Tenno to you, keep enjoying the game and having fun with it. I know I do.
Have you thought about throwing DE a few bucks for making such a great FTP game,
Pssh what are you talking about Archwing Quest ftw amiright
The Guy Things bro what?? limbo theorem has archwing and excavation lmaoooo get rekt scrub
I remember the first time I was ejected from my ship, and the archwing connected. The cinematic, the suspense. I was hooked for life. I know a lot of others hate archwing missions. I absolutely love them. I'm excited to see what rail jack brings to the table.
@gotenks42
Bro, Archwing fucking sucks, is boring, pointless and BROKEN. The Quest called Archwing and the cinematic were pretty epic, but just that. We all hope they fix archwing and make it more interesting when Railjack comes out.
The only time i actually got fun with the Archwing was in the Plains and the Vallis.
btw, i kinda wanna know why you like them
@@Sage3635K Archwing is good at it's core. But doesn't have enough content.
@@Sage3635K yeah, especially the mission "Pandora" on Saturn... it gave me PTSD
It honestly pains me to see steam reviews of warframe where it’s like “player 1 hours” and the dude says “pay to win” because you can buy all the guns for platinum but they don’t know you can buy the blueprint for credits
Your videos have gotten me fully in to this game. 10 hours in I already feel hooked.
+Aaron Milton :)
you have a long road ahead. but i can tell you: if you like grind and powerfantasies you may end up like me with 5700 hours of playtime.
+TerribilisScriptor Teach me your ways, I beg of you. How does one play one game so much ? xD
Akoda I'm like 2 months into the game and I recently finished the war within. I still have a long way to go lol. Imagine.... that's how awesome this game is
well mostly because it has averything i love about games: good lore, fun characters, actionpacked gameplay, challanges in the lategame, deep charactercustomization, interresting factions (long live the corpus!), a plasma LMG, good melee, great music and an amazing storyline.
all of that keeps me engaged. (not without breaks ofcourse, sometimes i takes a 2 week break to play other games but i ALWAYS coem back after 2 weeks even if its just to visit baro'ki'teer and see what he offers this fortnight.
Been faithful to warframe for almost 3 years. Never leaving on burnout like most. I guess that's why I've gotten so good at it. Keep it up Skill Up. It gets better with time. Great review dude.
I think a big issue with Warframe burnout is most (not all) should take it in chunks. The game is good, yes, but it’s also extremely grindy. Playing it for hours on end, every day will guarantee burn most people out real quick.
i can't stop playing warframe！thats a huge problem for me！im a LOL zed main sitting at platinum 3 and before watching your review i was at platinum 1！i wanted to hit diamond this season. What the hell happened? Now I don't even want to play LOL anymore. Damn your review skill up!
I hit gold as Vi main 2 seasons ago. That was my peak :)
Gabriel Han Wanna play Dota 2?
I leave LoL because of Warframe, I used to be D2, but trust me, with the lotus experience, I don´t care my division anymore.
Whenever I'm feeling disappointed because I don't have many friends that appreciate the same games or entertainment I do, I often come back to this video. SkillUp knows how to set up a narrative like no other reviewer I know, and deliver and deliver a satisfying payoff while explaining the best and worst parts about an experience. This is one of his best videos ever, showing off his creative skill, while setting up a clear argument for what makes the Second Dream incredible. Seeing someone else appreciate the Second Dream this much gives me confidence that I'm not crazy. This is one of the most amazing experiences in gaming. I'm glad I got to play it when it released. And it gives me more confidence that my preferences and tastes in gaming are valid.
Got into Warframe to pass the time waiting for Destiny 2, hoping it wouldn't grab me.
30 hrs later, I'm it's bitch, still at the tip of the iceberg content-wise, and with D2 just around the corner.
Fuuuuuu...*
I blame you, Skill Up. :p
+RAF1172 :)
30 hours ? Oh you are like a frog at the bottom of a well.
Totally unaware of the vastness outside and blind to the harsh task this wall climb (grind) is.
Remember to always pray to RNGsus and maybe (if u sacrifice your first borne) you will only be 1-2 thousand hours away from obtaining the freedom.
Asimov Vomisa oh, I'm so totally aware how grindy this thing is. Destiny ain't got nothing on it. It wasn't only til yesterday that I got my second frame, with still two others in the virtual oven.
Forget about Destiny 1.5.
Just play warframe. You might as well wait for them to finish making Destiny before playing it.
EcchiRevenge I am tempted to wait but...no, sorry. I'll see how I alternate between both grinds. Yay.
I did second dream at 450 hrs in the game.........
Respect.
when they drop it no ?
i had around 400 hrs as well
I had 90 hours when I completed war within haha.
I had 1700 hours before doing the quest. Mostly 'cause it didn't exist for the vast majority of those. ~.~
I think I was at about 100-150 hours or so.
A few were from 2013 but I came back pre PoE and started to properly get into the game.
I'm at 650 hours now, even though I have no one for any of the group stuff like vaults or eidolons.
It took me about 80 hours to get to Second Dream.
It was worth it
I'm just going to start linking Skill-Ups videos when people have questions about things like Warframe lol.
I had my hands in my face, shaking my head, because I could not believe what i just experienced was from a free game. That feeling of "i cant even" euphoria lasted hours, and well into the mid-afternoon the next day. I don't think I've felt that way about a video game since FFVII. Incredible, yet restrained, piece of work from DE.
Skill Up has this incredible ability to make you feel things when he talks about games his passion is infectious.
Clearly, Warframe is worth the investment.
Ejodai My friends and I downloaded Warframe after watching the review Skill Up did. All of us are quite shocked, surprised and also disappointed. Shocked that a free to play game is this good, surprised it has mountains of content. Disappointed we didn't play it sooner.
We downloaded it 5th Aug. Clocked in a huge amount of hours amongst us and just at Jupiter. Now..with Destiny 2 on the horizon..and Plains of Eidelon..I know where my time is going..DE..you've got our groups full attention. Keep up the great work.
Skill up, thanks for catching our attention with your review.👍
Toza don't forget new cinematic umbra quest and new frame
Kylo Ren Oh I will! What I have done is avoid spoilers for the quest lines. Fortunately everyone puts up alerts on their videos so I switch them off at that point. Then bide my time to watch them once I've pushed passed that part.
It's been nearly two weeks since we started, I've now got 4 frames and about to complete another 3. Now..there are about a couple of dozen frames to go..so much content!
I actually purchased Oberon Prime. I felt compelled to pay for what I've received from this game so far. Did I feel cheated or aggrieved upon buying the pack? Not in the slightest.
With buying things like ME andromeda, Battleborn..in the past. No way do I feel cheated. I feel thankful that a company created this game to play, enjoy and still expand upon. Great simple touches make all the differences here.
Damned nice community too!
Toza dude same with me. I got the Oberon prime access and accessories pack too. Why? Because it's given me such an amazing experience that will continue to last in comparison to triple a titles with 1 or 2 year lifespans and absolutely almost no big updates that will grab and hook me again.
It's free2play .. and I have no money - yet I feel the need to bombard DE with cash just for doing this :'>
You're my favourite warframe youtuber!
I would recommend you to join the warframe fandom app as the community is great and they help a lot in the game!
Naramon squad, represent!
Represent!
Shadow steppers XD
Critical hit chance all the way.
Hopefully getting nerfed in the focus rework.
You mean Cheese Squad
Update as of December 2023: Digital Extremes is releasing the Whispers in the Walls content, which is going to decouple Mastery Rank from story quest prerequisites, and the previous update, Abyss of Dagath, also included a number of quest and Junction streamlines, and also improved the free mods you get from the early game and upgraded the base starting weapons you get from the first quest you play...making the bulk of the early game MUCH smoother...to the point where if a person is focused up enough, they can probably reach Second Dream in a week, or even less, a single day.
There's still a lot to do in the early game, but I don't feel this makes Second Dream any less of a masterstroke, just because it no longer takes anywhere near 100 or 150 hours to reach it.
I'll spoil it here: During the second dream, it is revealed that the lotus was clem all along.
Spoilers wtf
Bruh why you gotta spoil the new players not cool
oh no
The most incredible part of Warframe is the depth. Just as soon as you think you have it figured out, they introduce a new system that completely shakes things up. It just keeps going and going.
Nicely done mate! Can't wait to be able to push forwards to these quests. Isn't it refreshing to not be charged $60+ for a front-loaded, light content game only to be disappointed by the ending that fizzles instead of pops?
As someone who was with Warframe since almost the very start, this quest was AMAZING to me.
How do you not have more subscribers? Your content is of such high quality its incredible. I'm watching you talk about a video game but I FEEL like I'm being told an incredible story with a beginning, climax, and conclusion. I am literally getting chills just from watching these videos you make. Your use of storytelling and powerful imagery along with a broad knowledge of the topic is simply breathtaking. You are incredible.
I always saw people asking for help with the quest in the chat, in the earlier times around when I came back to the game last summer and I never understood what they were talking about. (Had only given it the week it had before destiny beforehand since I thought the free plat was the end of it, and I had no idea what to even do). When I accidentally stumbled my way into it, rather than using a guide, my mind blew by the fact I even walked into a bunch of cutscenes. It took me longer to realize what I was even doing, but I knew it was huge. Then the reveal took me by storm and the music roared something inside my heart me only halo's ever could do. Even loving destiny's soundtrack didn't touch base with it either (maybe some of D2's tho cx ) Afterwards, I fell for the game harder than anything ever before, it basically sucked my summer vacation dry. The Second Dream will forever remain one of the most moving experiences a game has ever offered me.
A master-stroke? “Would you kindly”
I've been seeing videos, like this one, pop up all over RUclips. Praising Warframe and for the most part I agree and it gets me excited. However, having already put 400 hours into this game 2 years ago, when I jump in now, there are so many new game mechanics and systems that it leaves me overwhelmed. I want to play this again and get into it but I have no idea where I left off and where to begin.
Just do the micro quest " the level to unlock new planet" this is the progression system now. It also give big quest , like war within or second dream.
Zemo do research that what I do took me 2 weeks to finish the whole star chart by myself.
If someone help me it will take least then 1 week.
If your on Pc add me
Username: Dragonfriday
I teach you the ways Tenno, you were asleep for a long time
Yes DE's attitude to the new player experience, or even the old returner is pathetic at best. Its like they almost do not want new players to continue playing the game, appalling is the word I was looking for.
To progress, refer to the planet junctions starting on the ones on Earth. As long as you complete the junction requirements, you'll find progress through the game fairly easy.
Zemo Simply find people to ask questions a bunch of old players are friendly to people that want to learn considering i help new players out sometimes via carrying them through tough missions explaining to them how to mod stuff.
gotta love people who gave a like even before watchin the video lol 😊
lol, the moment I saw the video preview, knew it was about the quest xD I see 2nd dream, I upvote
Amen brother! Amen.
(All hail the thicc) *raise hands to the sky* Hmmmmmmm Ahmmmmmmmmm~~
Yeah I do that a lot 😅
I'm literally starting the second dream quest right this second!!! I love your videos @Skillup. You're the reason I started playing Warframe and I am so glad you made your review. This is one of my top games now. I'm in a clan now and I have made sooooo many new, kind, and experienced players who are now my friends. Thank you for everything you do.
Once again I am amazed with how eloquent you are with your words, you truly do the game justice and put into words what I simply could not. Thank you for this.
OMG THAT THE LAST OF US MOMENT
Hits me in the feels every time...
Skill Up i've played it three times and everytime i came to this view, i stopped there and i let it play for 30 minutes straight. It's just amazing how happy Ellie and Joe are there.
Clicks on warframe video in feed, gets The Last of us spoiled, thanks.
h4x02eD I hope that's a joke?
h4x02eD lol agree but I won't play that game because I don't have a PlayStation...
Pc master race baby!
h4x02eD the last of us has been out for how long?
h4x02eD ellie dies by an alien and joe gets captured by a dinossaur :^)
Just like opening a box of kitkat to also suddenly get my 'surprise dinner' instead.
Kinda forgot what Second Dream is. Not because it was bad, but because when I played through it I was like "Yep, that's DE for you".
An absolutely incredible part of the game. The story is the only thing that's keeping me tied to this game after 6 years.
The elegance on how you Explain what this game really is , is a master stroke in it's self , the way this game has evolved is amazing , when seeing Tenno Con 17, I was so hooked. And when I came back my brother a long time player was excited for me because of the Second Dream and the War Within. To see my reaction as to see it for himself for the first time. Thank you and other long time RUclips content providers for giving this game a voice.
Two words Skill Up, thank you. I enjoy your content. It is so refreshing to hear intelligent analysis, poetic articulation and passion. This is what makes You Tube so cool. So again, thank you. I am becoming a Warframer.
You are a master narrator and story teller, which is why I watch every one of your videos. I don't like Warframe, even though I've tried several times to get into it, but nonetheless you make thoughtful and interesting videos, which keep me coming back. Your Division videos are still my favorite, as is the game.
To this day I still check mastery ranks with randoms to not spoil spoiler mode
It's your duty tenno.
Keep up the good work!
Agreed
I WAITED 4 YEARS
and I was please with the delivery, despite the grind for it.
Skill man, the way you compose your videos like this one with music woven in is artful - stunning content. Keep it up mate.
Thanks SkillUp for being the you tuber Warframe needed! The more publicity and success it gets the greater the game will be!
I watched this 100 hours into warframe and said to myself "how?"
151 hours in now :-)
Good video mate
Thanks for the heart, but you really deserved it.
You make videos that I haven't seen anywhere, which are so delightful to listen to, and give a real insight into the games you talk about.
You should be proud of this video, and all of your other ones as well.
DE should remaster the older quests before Second Dream. The quests before Second Dream are very outdated in terms of their production values compared to the ones after. As a long time Warframe player I wouldn't mind also if DE created quests that take place before the continuity of Second Dream.
They do. Both Saya's Vigil and Vox Solaris both take place before the Second Dream.
I know your comment is a year old, but I thought I'd mention:
Steve and Rebecca did an interview with Mogamu, and they touched on this. Basically, nearly everyone in the studio works on every part of the game, new and old. They have so much they want to do to the "new player experience." But that coupled with the larger expansions they have, and will be putting out. They know they have spread themselves too thin. So as they like to say on devstream, "it's in the works." Lol
I watched this video 3 years ago. Before then I'd never heard of Warframe... I downloaded it the next day. Thank you for introducing me to this amazing game.
As someone who as nearing 2000 hours in Warframe, this video made me smile so much. The way you describe the Second Dream and the concept of a master stroke is EXACTLY why I wish more people would give Warframe a 2nd chance. I know so many people who stopped playing Warframe with less than 100 hours in the game because they got bored of it or found it too repetitive. Its a shame because the wait for the Second Dream and what lays ahead of it is so undeniably worth it. Also thank you for this video. You have very quickly become one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
I can hear Warframe players cheering because of the recognition it is getting. Me included.
Kinda bummed that you used Dark Souls in your "masterpiece, but no masterstroke" footage. It had a masterstroke if I've ever seen one - right at the very end of the very last game, when the theme of the Soul merges with that of Gwyn. Never have I witnessed a series (be it book, game or TV) ending a story so perfectly. Everything there is to be told has been told, and this change of theme reveals (to the observant player) that everything they did for hundreds of hours, through three long-ass games, was, in the end, futile, as the fire will just fade again after your soul was added to the Soul of Cinder. That's why I believe the fading of the flame is the true ending of Dark Souls. It doesn't corrupt the fire, as that would leave a fire to be rekindled (which is why both Dark Souls 1 endings work perfectly fine with the overall lore), and it doesn't rekindle the fire. The wheel doesn't stop turning, it is shattered.
"300 hours or more..." Then there's us, the ones who have played this game for thousands of hours. The ones who've played the game since it began. The ones who speculated, theorized, and waited for years. The Second Dream was and is very special to us.
yeah, I remembered every theory of Warframe back in 2013. And the Second Dream is basically the "naah, no way, this doesn't make any sense" theory and bombed us with this ending makes the whole twist is more crazier.
As always keep up the good work skill!! After your initial video I started playing and have been loving it. I am approaching the 70 hour mark. I am excited to reach the second dream. But I am enjoying every minute leading up to it!
I just recently begun to play this game, i'm just a few hours into it; i only unlocked Venus and got my first mastery exam and i'm completely into it! From the awesome gameplay, the possibilities with the Warframes and how you can actually get them by playing and grinding like a Champ, and how his world felt deeper than AAA games like Destiny or Tom Clancy's games (With it's exceptions of course) made me belief! I have to admit this is one of the best F2p games i have ever played and i'm pretty happy to say that by now, i'm a full and proud Tenno for life, i'm glad i found this game and it's awesome community, and thanks for make me understand what lies ahead in this experience!
You know TSD is great when he’d rather spoil The Last Of Us than it
One is still a man after crying at the Second Dream ending scene
Warframe makes D2 look worse and worse to me
Lol I just switched from D2 last week. So glad I did. Bungie can’t hurt me anymore
Warframe is everything Destiny promised to be and should have been.
I was extremely bored by Destiny within 5 minutes while for this game I was hooked.
@@shadowsbane171091 don't think so
I still really don't get Warframe I honestly tried it for a month straight but and while I do see why people like it I just don't see the hook that keeps them there
Your review of the game when you first started playing got me back into it and I am loving it! So thank you for the last 150 hours of gameplay (so far) that you’ve given me!
just like the quest, this video was well made. i really like it when people talk about things that make some games so special. the reveal of anor londo in dks1 beats any other reveal in dks3 because we have been fighting through dingy and brutal fights to see this amazing spectacle that me and many other players never saw coming. dks 3 shows its beautiful views at the start and it doesn't feel nearly as satisfying as anor londo does, the reveal of irithyl could have been something even more special if the whole game wasn't big reveals on beautiful areas beforehand. games need to pace special and memorable moments perfectly through their games or they just won't be memorable. if the whole of warframe had been twists and lore bombs, you expect it with every quest, when you know something huge is coming it ruins the element completely. side note i didn't even know i cared about this topic nearly as much as i did until i watched this video, thanks my dude
"Warframe sucks." - impatient entitled gamers who play 2 hours and drop the game because it doesn't hand you everything immediately
Or people just don't enjoy the game lol really has nothing to do with being entitled but you little fanboy's do you I guess
TheDustyChinchilla 'warframe is amazing'
Financially stable player who simply likes coming home after a long day, and booting up a casual loot grinder, with some of the pest customisation options in gaming. Realizing that fashion frame is true end game,and that running missions beyond 1hour means Insta-death enemies, they instead use their time finding innovative ways to farm resources, and keep themselves busy by building a clan solely for the purpose of investing said resources into something.
They also have spend quite a pretty penny on cosmetics and forma bundles.
Well , as a veteran i played warframe for fun , and i was afk a long time , i played so much that i don't have to farm ressources , only prime. (exept those fucking nitain.)
TheDustyChinchilla then complains when a game hands them everything and gets bored
I mean eventually you're gonna get tired of it.. But whats the reason to tell others that it sucks?
I've played Warframe and Destiny a lot now, around 200 hours in each, and I can honestly say I prefer Destiny. Lots of people say that Destiny is grindy, and it totally is, but at least there's a goal (beat raid on hard mode/get max gear score). Warframe feels like those clicker games like AdVenture Capitalist where you think it's fun until you realize you could be playing forever and there's no real satisfaction that comes with beating a raid. Finishing the star map is pretty underwhelming, and maxing out a frame only to realize there are 50 others to unlock just doesn't feel good. Warframe is just grinding the same missions over and over with a tileset that you've seen hundreds of times before just to get the resources needed for your next frame. It lacks the sense of discovery I got when I first started playing Destiny. Once you've been to a few planets in Warframe, you know that's what the rest of the game is going to be like except for some strange quests later on.
The Last of Us Part 1 - Master Stroke
The Last of Us Part 2 - Master Woke
Second dream is probably my favorite quest in my entire gaming life... I don't think I was ever moved by a video games quest the way second dream did.. It hit me on an emotional level I've rarely felt in everyday life.. Love your channel keep up the good work and glad to have you in the Warframe community
I very rarely comment on videos, but ive been following u for awhile skillup and just wanted to ty for the passion u bring to ur videos. Always speaking intellectually, i always have to sit and think about what i just watch. Ur work is superb and i cant wait for ur masterstroke!!! Well played sir.
I remember, after completing that quest, I kept sitting on my chair for around an hour without doing anything. The screams of Margulis were ringing in my head, and I was crying as if I have lost someone who was really dear to me. I have not played much games, but even if I did, I would still say Margulis and Lotus are two of the best mother-figures among the whole gaming industry.
Nakib Zaman oh god should we tell him
Best. RUclipsr. Ever
Thanks bromeo :P
Madurai squad 💯
I found your channel in the days of weekly vendor resets, and controversial opinions. You stood out back then, and now you're really coming into your own. The new style is amazing, well thought out, and well executed. Keep up the great work! I look forward to what comes next.
The Second Dream was fantastic I just experienced it a few weeks ago and you’re right, the emotion wouldn’t have been the same if it was just given cheaply and quickly; you have feel the development of the story, live with the characters for a while. You know it was special to you because when you try to describe what had happened the person opposite you looks blankly and says “...cool”
I had the same moment trying to describe the BSG episode Unfinished Business or trying to describe Bioshock. Loving this game and glad you’re reviewing it and helping giving it the spotlight it deserves. Keep it up dude!
4:17 for the warframe stuff :P
kkkk este vídeo entrega todos os seus 10 minutos no título.
My dude you have a way with words. I tune in to your channel because you give evenhanded reviews of games and I sense an honesty\passion with your work. I can honestly say I will try this game because of you
@Skill Up I just want to tell you that im so glad you made it through the second dream, congratulations. I also would like to inform you that in the codex there are bios on specific warframes that explain a hidden past in pieces. Bios such as: excalibur, ember prime, rhino prime, mag prime, and the stalker. What makes this special is the fact it was here for 2 years before the second dream was even announced. DE is amazing! And I hope your read this.
honestly the fact most people quit before reaching second dream i think just proves that warframe only rewards players who are willing to put in the effort. if you are unable to do the 20 to 30 hour grind to reach second dream then you havent earned the right to witness one of the best moments in gaming. the moment when you see just how deep the rabbit hole goes and once you have begone desending you will never want to stop till you reach its end
dammit skill up ... you always bring tears to my eyes... because its true what you say, few games can bring such a nice comunity and for so long, like this game... and you did not suckup to no one, it was this same comunity that embrace you and wanted to show up some of the best parts of this game that we all love and cherish so much. i hope you have a great time in the future and i wish you well on your future missions tenno.
Damn you Mr Skill Up! Every time I have a frustrating time on Warframe (usually after a Spy mission, grrr) I think I will take and break and do something else with my time (such as talk to my wife, walk the dogs, watch tv, bathe, eat, etc).
I then, however, hop on to RUclips and inevitably catch your latest vids.
Your goddam enthusiasm for this game just reminds me why I am playing the game in the first place. The grind is on!!
Warframe is the single most beautiful game I have ever played. From when I started to now I've subconsciously appreciated what de have done and how they have told Warframe story and you have put everything I have been feeling about this master peice into words that I would have never found and for that I thank you skill up.
"Vanishing Grace", the name of the piece that plays during that iconic Last of Us scene, I think has, to be one of my favorite gaming pieces ever. Its either that or "Dearly Beloved" from Kingdom Hearts. Its so subtle, and haunting, but beautiful and when you analyse, there's so much more room to add other melodies, harmonies or other instruments but it's perfect as it is because of where in the game it's placed. Gustavo you are a legend in my eyes
THANK YOU!!! this video explain exactly the experience i had when i played second dream..... that awesome...
The incredible feeling of satisfaction, adrenaline and reward after o many hours playing the game....
warframe Has a fantastic character. When you think you've seen everything it has to offer, it surprises you with a new mechanic or something totally different from what you've been experiencing