We can also teach girls that if she is totally not open to Polygamy she can let her intended know before and have it put in the marriage contract. If he doesn’t agree, then he and she may not be compatible.
This is true and two of our daughter did this. However it's important for them to understand that this clause only allows her an out should he choose to practice it versus prohibit him from practicing it.
@@outstandingpersonalrelationshi exactly, because if Allah wills him to get a second wife then it will happen anyway no matter how many times he signed that clause.
I’m all for polygamy however, when I inquired about the practicing of polygyny in the Masjid that I attend, I was told by a sister that the Iman doesn’t allow for the practice of polygyny, I was so disappointed because I don’t want to commit haram, and I desire to have a companion. What can I do besides going to another Masjid?
As salaamulakium My Sister I'm glad you were truthful and it's nothing to be ashamed of wanting to practice your way of life. We are the Best Ummah per Allah. . Let me say that first.. Now with the Imam not allowing Polygamy he is wrong. Because this is the practice of our beautiful Pro Muhammad what you should do is get with the brother the sister and a good muslim witness who has UNDERSTANDING and Wisdom Hikmah that will be a straight forward to Quran and Sunnah and hear yall out to see if yall are serious for this Deen not just Weekend Love Makking this is Not that.... it's about committed real Marriage no matter how many wives are involved... This is not to be played with.. And Brothers must take this VERY SERIOUSLY THIS NOT HIT IT AND QUIT IT... IF THO THE SHORT MARRIAGE IS ALLOWED DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULD AIM TOWARDS THAT.. Here at my Brother and Sisters Channel We stand for Outstanding Personal Relationships ...That means The Best Effort Til Jenna Period... All or Nothing... We are taking the Black Eye off Polygany so Yes Sister Stay at that Masjid and Represent and be The Best Wife and Co Wife so we can Live our Deen Correctly in America if we are ashamed or dont practice Our Religion what do we have.... ?????Nothing... more Inner Grief and Struggle you might as well stay being A Kafir instead of a Believer all Oraise to Allah west who invented Polygany for His Righteous Servants.... Your Brother Imam Mansa Musa Mohammed
I wish that the three coaches could give talks at Islamic conferences and seminars. The word needs to be spread that polygny is a valid choice for some families and not something to trigger blame or be looked down upon by our Muslim communities. At times I think some sisters turn up the volume on their denunciation of polygamy because they're afraid it could happen to them, and they want to make it socially unacceptable. Allahu ailem.
Very educational! Great points! By the way, I think when Sr. Naima said that polygyny is a male "imperative," she actually meant to say that it's the male perogative (?). (Just for those who aren't aware, polygyny isn't imperative for Muslim men to engage in-- according to Islam, it's an option, for those who have the means and ability to do it correctly.) But I dont mean to speak for Sr. Naima-- maybe she can clarify. Thank you!
emotions don't need permission to exist. They exist. The denial and repression of emotions is not a good thing. Why is it the man's imperative to have multiple partners while women are not allowed this and must repress their emotions? I am really curious how women can think this sounds like a good thing.
Men and women are different. This is wonderful. It does not mean that one has a right to dominate and repress the other. This is where the confusion lies. Women are not and should not be considered property or inferior in human rights. If a culture claims this, that has nothing to do with God or spiritual values. It is none other than Ego claiming 'right by might' and habit. Have you asked yourself what lies you have been conditioned to believe? That goes both ways... if one has the capacity for self reflection. @@centeredmuslim3436
Because women give birth. Do you imagine yourself having kids from different fathers looking after them paying bills for these men. Juggling from a house to another house to visit them while the kids stay at home with their father. Ov course these men have to stay home while you work full time as well. Does it seem possible?
@@noneofyourbuizness There are many conceivable ways of organizing this. You mention only one that is a mirror reversal. This is not at all the only way. There are cultures in existence that manage things with a woman with multiple husbands (In Tibetan and other ethnic groups within China). It is also possible to manage this using birthcontrol so that few if any, children are involved. It is common in some cultures that multiple fathers support their children while the children live with their mothers or with their mother and another man - support both fiscal and emot8onal. Many ways. The key factors are that both parent love and support their children and that the emotional needs of all are respected and supported. This is going to vary. In Western Culture and I think in much of Eastern cultures, people experience painful jealousy when their partners have other partners. If this is the case, I think it does not cover the element of supporting emotional needs of all. Historically, due to make domination, the emotional needs of women has simply been ignored and or subjugated. I don't think this is a good idea. It all depends on what people really feel... not what they will accept because they don't see a way to avoid it.
Polayamary studies are positive for longevity in the west .20% of population is accepting. It’s strange how Islam it’s decreasing. I had to sign legal doc I agree for a stout Islamic country. It’s kind of sad when there are so many Muslimah sisters as old maids and widows or abandoned worldwide. Brothers step up. Sisters empathy .
No one goes thru this life knowing it will be rainbows and painfree. Polygny hits in a place different than normal life's disappointments and painful situations. Example... Losing a job. Health challenges. .. taking care of my mother till she passed with cancer in my 20's with 5 little children...no matter how hard my life has been up till now..... nothing prepared me for the emotional roller coaster of polygny. Nothing I believe someday there will be a time i say polygyny is a blessing 😮. Inchallah! That is where my energy flows...blessings
May Allah increase you and reward you for your service to your mother. One of the greatest strengths people possess is the ability to thrive and be resilient. Having the ability to learn, think, and be grateful to Allah for His wisdom is an incredible blessing. There's one caveat though, the human being must pursue and make an effort or else they will fail. الحمد لله
@Outstanding Personal Relationships...awww thank you! I totally agree with you! As long as I have known you, your message is the same. Who do we want to show up as, hostile, negative, hurtful, hateful, see pain wherever we look, or show up supportive, helpful, loving, patient and see the good in this way of life? Re frame...think differently...Outstanding Personal Relationships, best practices, and living so our Creator will be pleased, and ultimately we are granted Jenna is an intentional decision! I know that is a lofty goal...however it puts it into perspective, don't you 🤔 think?
LOL, the other wife seems to always need help and Hubby asks me to pitch in. Although he gave her money….Her bills are behind, she hasn’t bought the children winter coats, she needs to find a new place to live etc. He wants me to show her healthy cooking. The old me would be completely aggravated, but I’ve come to a much better place. ❤
We can also teach girls that if she is totally not open to
Polygamy she can let her intended know before and have it put in the marriage contract. If he doesn’t agree, then he and she may not be compatible.
This is true and two of our daughter did this. However it's important for them to understand that this clause only allows her an out should he choose to practice it versus prohibit him from practicing it.
@@outstandingpersonalrelationshi exactly, because if Allah wills him to get a second wife then it will happen anyway no matter how many times he signed that clause.
May ALLAH(SWT) reward you all, Ameen
Educational.....
mashallah
I’m all for polygamy however, when I inquired about the practicing of polygyny in the Masjid that I attend, I was told by a sister that the Iman doesn’t allow for the practice of polygyny, I was so disappointed because I don’t want to commit haram, and I desire to have a companion. What can I do besides going to another Masjid?
Why don’t you just find a single man?
As salaamulakium this is not what the said, she wants a co wife .Do not cause fitnah on this channel We are encouraging Our Way of Life in Al Islam...
As salaamulakium My Sister I'm glad you were truthful and it's nothing to be ashamed of wanting to practice your way of life. We are the Best Ummah per Allah. . Let me say that first.. Now with the Imam not allowing Polygamy he is wrong. Because this is the practice of our beautiful Pro Muhammad what you should do is get with the brother the sister and a good muslim witness who has UNDERSTANDING and Wisdom Hikmah that will be a straight forward to Quran and Sunnah and hear yall out to see if yall are serious for this Deen not just Weekend Love Makking this is Not that.... it's about committed real Marriage no matter how many wives are involved... This is not to be played with.. And Brothers must take this VERY SERIOUSLY THIS NOT HIT IT AND QUIT IT... IF THO THE SHORT MARRIAGE IS ALLOWED DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULD AIM TOWARDS THAT.. Here at my Brother and Sisters Channel We stand for Outstanding Personal Relationships ...That means The Best Effort Til Jenna Period... All or Nothing... We are taking the Black Eye off Polygany so Yes Sister Stay at that Masjid and Represent and be The Best Wife and Co Wife so we can Live our Deen Correctly in America if we are ashamed or dont practice Our Religion what do we have.... ?????Nothing... more Inner Grief and Struggle you might as well stay being A Kafir instead of a Believer all Oraise to Allah west who invented Polygany for His Righteous Servants....
Your Brother Imam Mansa Musa Mohammed
I know in North & South Carolina Imans will not marry you Islamically unless you are also marrying with a civil court license.
@@tmlegalservicestmlegalserv2323 where in Islam does it tell women to look for a co-wife? This sounds like a western thing
I wish that the three coaches could give talks at Islamic conferences and seminars. The word needs to be spread that polygny is a valid choice for some families and not something to trigger blame or be looked down upon by our Muslim communities. At times I think some sisters turn up the volume on their denunciation of polygamy because they're afraid it could happen to them, and they want to make it socially unacceptable. Allahu ailem.
SubhanAllah! ❤ السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته Good job guys for shedding some much more needed light on this topic of polygamy!🧕👳♂️🧕 جزاك الله خيرا
I would love to speak with Sis. Naima .❤️
In my community that I came from polygamy, is very hard to hear the good side of polygamy.
Very educational! Great points! By the way, I think when Sr. Naima said that polygyny is a male "imperative," she actually meant to say that it's the male perogative (?). (Just for those who aren't aware, polygyny isn't imperative for Muslim men to engage in-- according to Islam, it's an option, for those who have the means and ability to do it correctly.) But I dont mean to speak for Sr. Naima-- maybe she can clarify. Thank you!
I have seen that women is against polygyny for how it is done; not the institution itself.
emotions don't need permission to exist. They exist. The denial and repression of emotions is not a good thing. Why is it the man's imperative to have multiple partners while women are not allowed this and must repress their emotions? I am really curious how women can think this sounds like a good thing.
Men and women are different. This is wonderful. It does not mean that one has a right to dominate and repress the other. This is where the confusion lies. Women are not and should not be considered property or inferior in human rights. If a culture claims this, that has nothing to do with God or spiritual values. It is none other than Ego claiming 'right by might' and habit. Have you asked yourself what lies you have been conditioned to believe? That goes both ways... if one has the capacity for self reflection. @@centeredmuslim3436
Because women give birth. Do you imagine yourself having kids from different fathers looking after them paying bills for these men. Juggling from a house to another house to visit them while the kids stay at home with their father.
Ov course these men have to stay home while you work full time as well.
Does it seem possible?
@@noneofyourbuizness There are many conceivable ways of organizing this. You mention only one that is a mirror reversal. This is not at all the only way. There are cultures in existence that manage things with a woman with multiple husbands (In Tibetan and other ethnic groups within China). It is also possible to manage this using birthcontrol so that few if any, children are involved. It is common in some cultures that multiple fathers support their children while the children live with their mothers or with their mother and another man - support both fiscal and emot8onal.
Many ways. The key factors are that both parent love and support their children and that the emotional needs of all are respected and supported. This is going to vary. In Western Culture and I think in much of Eastern cultures, people experience painful jealousy when their partners have other partners. If this is the case, I think it does not cover the element of supporting emotional needs of all. Historically, due to make domination, the emotional needs of women has simply been ignored and or subjugated. I don't think this is a good idea. It all depends on what people really feel... not what they will accept because they don't see a way to avoid it.
Yesss this interview will be great. I'm a hebrew Israelite, and I love sister Na'ima's view on many topics HalleluYAH all praises to Elohim
I like the idea of teaching that monogamy is not the only future for you. I think that mindset would help a lot of people
Polayamary studies are positive for longevity in the west .20% of population is accepting. It’s strange how Islam it’s decreasing. I had to sign legal doc I agree for a stout Islamic country. It’s kind of sad when there are so many Muslimah sisters as old maids and widows or abandoned worldwide. Brothers step up. Sisters empathy .
I think you mean polygyny? Polyamory is where the men and women aren't necessarily married and have multiple partners each, generally speaking.
No one goes thru this life knowing it will be rainbows and painfree. Polygny hits in a place different than normal life's disappointments and painful situations. Example... Losing a job. Health challenges. .. taking care of my mother till she passed with cancer in my 20's with 5 little children...no matter how hard my life has been up till now..... nothing prepared me for the emotional roller coaster of polygny. Nothing
I believe someday there will be a time i say polygyny is a blessing 😮. Inchallah! That is where my energy flows...blessings
May Allah increase you and reward you for your service to your mother. One of the greatest strengths people possess is the ability to thrive and be resilient.
Having the ability to learn, think, and be grateful to Allah for His wisdom is an incredible blessing.
There's one caveat though, the human being must pursue and make an effort or else they will fail. الحمد لله
@Outstanding Personal Relationships...awww thank you!
I totally agree with you! As long as I have known you, your message is the same. Who do we want to show up as, hostile, negative, hurtful, hateful, see pain wherever we look, or show up supportive, helpful, loving, patient and see the good in this way of life? Re frame...think differently...Outstanding Personal Relationships, best practices, and living so our Creator will be pleased, and ultimately we are granted Jenna is an intentional decision! I know that is a lofty goal...however it puts it into perspective, don't you 🤔 think?
LOL, the other wife seems to always need help and Hubby asks me to pitch in. Although he gave her money….Her bills are behind, she hasn’t bought the children winter coats, she needs to find a new place to live etc. He wants me to show her healthy cooking. The old me would be completely aggravated, but I’ve come to a much better place. ❤
Riveting, indeed......
Sister Fatima, May Allah reward you for your patience and tolerance with the best reward
I love you guyssss!!!
I love you so much for the sake of Allah!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤