And they always find the cheapest clapped out FG on marketplace for 15K and say “SEE you can still get them that cheap!” While ignoring that it’s literally the only one that’s under 20K.
Or for similar money start with an NA and put a built motor in it, the price difference is pretty similar to the cost of a built motor, and if you want lots of power you have to replace most of the factory turbo parts anyway
To be honest I have a turbo (retirement prezzy from the missus) and an NA. The turbo is stock, won’t touch it, whereas the NA daily is my toy, happy to modify it as it’s worth stuff all. Everybody has a different view or opinion, regardless it’s great seeing a community young and old keeping these Aussie icons on the road. Great video, learnt a lot and thanks.
Cost wise it makes sense to start with NA if you want bulk power. I spent similar money on my factory turbo, I bought all the stuff you bought except for things like the map sensor, fuel rail, manifolds etc. so really if you want power you're spending like $1500 more to start with an NA than it would cost to do the mods with a turbo that costs a lot more than $1500 more to buy.. The big difference though is you do have a stronger engine and trans with a turbo. if you want more than like 500kw though there is no reason to start with a turbo because you need to replace damn near every factory component at that point.
Exactly this. Almost every big HP build you see started as an NA because it’s so much cheaper than spending 20K on a car that’s going to get stripped down and rebuilt anyway.
Another option to turbo is to buy one off auctions wrecked. Cost me 7500 plus 750 to get it shipped over. Was a black xr50 turbo. The car was stolen and not a lot of damage so didn’t wreck it but if I was to could have easily made a decent amount back.
Just curious. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy a XR6T engine which would come with the a lot of the things you had to do to the NA and fit it? I am thinking about doing either what you did or doing the turbo engine conversion.
@@UnimpressedAussie Came pre mint, lil leather/roof lining damage, the bro had it sitting in the garage for 9months, couldnt get it regoed, did me a deal as i hit a roo in my ute, came with 4 20inches n Stock 18s. Gave the bro 500 also to give it a service and chuck a new battery in. 👌
I keep coming back to your video , as well as others , thinking mmm , should i keep me fg lpg car or motor and turbo it . Or should i hot up my lpg fgx . Decisions , decisions . Either way , you did a great job 👍😁
There is a 3rd option, buy an already completed NA+T. They are worth less than factory turbo cars. So you might find thats the least expensive way to do it.
ahahah great to be featured at the start. Lovely! Great video once again. also off topic a bit, but have you been hitting the gym? You're looking a bit swole dude.
I have a na xr50 that I love and want to +t it so bad. I can afford parts of the 15k ish price tag but to get some1 to install it is what's holding me back. I have very limited mechanical knowledge and would def need the assistance. How much did the install cost u in Townsville?
I have to totally disagree. A N/A turbocharged car will not sell for anywhere near a XR6T in year's to come. So to say spending 17k on transforming a N/A into a turbo is better financially then buying a xr6t is incorrect. In 10+ year's I can assure you that the xr6t will be worth at least double to what it is today. In 20 years the sky is the limit. In fact a totally stock xr6t particularly in manual, will be worth crazy money.
Great stuff as always Mr fg mods . If u add the cost of the car which is total cost of the build . Car is a massive part of the build . 😉 . U can have my XR50T for 20k .
Try paying an actual performance engine builder to build the engine with the conversion and let me know. Yes definitely cheaper if you can do everything yourself but if you can't you could easily add thousands of dollars labour cost to it.
$17,000? Absurd. Should have just bought a turbo engine for $4000 online, along with a few parts. Also, imagine paying all that cash for a ZF conversion and putting in the wrong ZF. Keep alert!
Just buy a turbo motor and a few parts? The “few parts” being literally everything needed to convert the car from NA to Turbo 😂 Is the turbo ZF not good enough for you?
@@fgmods Great that you finally have the car set up with the turbo and all, but you could have sold the NA for $10,000 then bought a turbo for $20,000, which is $7,000 less than you spent to have a non genuine turbo FG to begin with. I dislike the idea of selling an NA to get a turbo, instead of turning it into a turbo generally, as it is very cheap to turbo an N/A Falcon. But at the price you paid, it seemingly would have been a good idea. I've done this mod on 3 Falcon's so far - BF 2 to FG series 1. You buy a $400 gt3582 turbo and intercooler kit from Ebay, exhaust manifold from wreck yard or online for $600 or so, etc, etc. Set it to 6psi, Good for 250kw at the fly, safe for an NA setup with 5 gears, and even more power with the ZF NA and Turbo/V8 six speed. Exhaust setups are bought cheap too online, and everywhere, wastegates are cheap, and so on. Total cost of under $2500 with tuning each time, using the stock BTR 4 speed, 5 speed mustang gear box, and the N/A ZF. Now, you've spent $17,000 - That's absurd - and it isn't even a genuine thingo, or a whatsamajigga. That cash would have been better spent elsewhere is my whole point. Again, great that you have the car, but you seemingly ripped yourself off. For example, Holden's are ugly, but a VE SS is being sold for $12-$20,000 online, and is already quicker and stronger in stock form than the FG turbo. Had you of bought one of them for $14k and spent $3k on mods, it would absolutely fly. Should be more clever with the cash, $17,000 is an absurd amount to pay/spend to turbo these cars. Should be under $5000 absolute max in all cases, especially for the amount of power you are happy with. Of course you'd start with the strongest version of the car you could to begin with - not go through a conversion of gearboxes and so on which is just wasted cash in the end, added to the cost of turboing the FG. You could also do a backyard job, just strap the turbo on and run a safe 5psi to get about 240kw at the fly. Engine ECU will compensate, car should run fairly decent without a tune. Best to get a tune though. If you find a spare grand lying around, buy a ratty BA Falcon and try it out. If it blows up, whatever. If it doesn't, you've got a baseline! That said, keep up the good work. I enjoy your content. Peace.
A mixture of doing it myself and help from friends. You can see all the work the guys at Elite did in the turbo conversion video. Other than the stuff in the engine, it’s all quite simple and I think the average car person could do it themselves and save a lot on labour costs.
Doesn’t make much sense to include the cost of the car when I already own the car and have for many years. This is about turbocharging a car you already own. Not going out and buying a car THEN turbocharging it.
@@fgmods so if you could sell your n/a for 10k then it would be cheaper to purchase a turbo car for 25k with mods ( which are out there ) then turboing your n/a
not really these days fg xr6ts are selling for below 20k now, seen one with 180k kms brembos x hwp for 15k on marketplace, they are coming down fast.. bought mine 2022 for 17k 250k kms though.
Buying a flogged out, busted arse ex HWP car is something I would steer the fuck away from. Some have low km's, but everything underneath is broken, or body seams are loose at the spotwelds
If I ever wake up one day, with a Ford Falcon sitting in the driveway...*REALLY* wanting to prove the "n/a motor can take boost"...I hope I die by lunchtime
Honestly you might feel good about it all but that's a lot of money to make not a lot of power all on a stock NA rotating assembly. It will blow up too if you thrash it or race it. You sound like a dreamer in this video man. NA Falcons sux
This is low quality bait. But I’ll bite anyway. Over 500HP is “not much power”? What dream world do you have to be in to think that’s not much power. As I said in the video, it cost less than buying a factory turbo & it’s been running just fine for ages now. You might wanna check my Insta if you think I haven’t raced or thrashed it. Because I’ve been handing out the chops from the day it was finished.
@@fgmods It's not bait at all. Ive owned three turbo Falcons and the current one sits at 1300hp and is built right. You NA boyz will NEVER stop spending on your taxis because you will never have them where you really want them to be, and that is fast and reliable. 500hp in a Falcon is fairly lazy, my brothers I30n would probably give you trouble, as in you're all into it to even beat that car. Hence the money wont stop getting pumped in because as I said, NA Falcons sux, NA+T are slow. BTRs are crap, and non turbo ZFs are not good for much power too. So essentially you can keep dreaming that you've cracked the code or just accept that it's a lot of money for not such a great end result. Oh and 18psi on an NA motor is a ticking time bomb. Blown up a couple too. If you think it's fast take it roll racing and see what happens. You will get chopped and it will most likely pop due to all the hot lapping. NA valves, are not your friend mate. Also 350rwkw on 12psi with that turbo sound optimistic even on E85
@@billetbarra6069Fair call mate, BUT...what other NA Ford Falcon would give such streetable power for $16 K ? All the classic Falcons are out, just coz boomers have scooped the market dry before you get anything vaguely worth putting a tuff clevo in to start. Forget how much money the motor and drive line will cost - $16k will be the motor by itself - on top of the rust repairs/paintwork to have something even registerable. He has a point, for those young guys who got a FG on P plates, put a ton of coin doing bushes and springs/shocks etc, then go full license and finally earning good money, they don't wanna just throw it all away, and see what he did and think, "Ya know, that looks do-able" !!! 🍺👍
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I just hate the people that are like "my dad's, boyfriend's, sister's, plumber has an xr6 turbo that he bought for 20k so why don't you just do that."
And they always find the cheapest clapped out FG on marketplace for 15K and say “SEE you can still get them that cheap!” While ignoring that it’s literally the only one that’s under 20K.
Or for similar money start with an NA and put a built motor in it, the price difference is pretty similar to the cost of a built motor, and if you want lots of power you have to replace most of the factory turbo parts anyway
To be honest I have a turbo (retirement prezzy from the missus) and an NA. The turbo is stock, won’t touch it, whereas the NA daily is my toy, happy to modify it as it’s worth stuff all. Everybody has a different view or opinion, regardless it’s great seeing a community young and old keeping these Aussie icons on the road. Great video, learnt a lot and thanks.
what a sick present from your wife good on ya
Good to see you back. Hopefully some more visoes coming soon
Hopefully going to be a few more good videos in the coming weeks.
Cost wise it makes sense to start with NA if you want bulk power. I spent similar money on my factory turbo, I bought all the stuff you bought except for things like the map sensor, fuel rail, manifolds etc. so really if you want power you're spending like $1500 more to start with an NA than it would cost to do the mods with a turbo that costs a lot more than $1500 more to buy.. The big difference though is you do have a stronger engine and trans with a turbo. if you want more than like 500kw though there is no reason to start with a turbo because you need to replace damn near every factory component at that point.
Exactly this. Almost every big HP build you see started as an NA because it’s so much cheaper than spending 20K on a car that’s going to get stripped down and rebuilt anyway.
Ain't no fun in buying a car thats ready.
The process is priceless.
Respect mate. Car is looking amazing. Nice job.
Another option to turbo is to buy one off auctions wrecked. Cost me 7500 plus 750 to get it shipped over. Was a black xr50 turbo. The car was stolen and not a lot of damage so didn’t wreck it but if I was to could have easily made a decent amount back.
Yeah transplanting a turbo motor and all the other gear from a wrecked car is a great way to do it if you can find one and afford it.
Hmm, this sounds like someone I know 🤔
Just curious.
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy a XR6T engine which would come with the a lot of the things you had to do to the NA and fit it? I am thinking about doing either what you did or doing the turbo engine conversion.
One thing i like is everything goin on is new. Lota stock turbos who knows' all the best cheers
I brought an N/A Fg of a mate for $1500, and this makes me more excited for the conversion to turbo
$1500 is a steal!
how fucked is it tho?
@@UnimpressedAussie Came pre mint, lil leather/roof lining damage, the bro had it sitting in the garage for 9months, couldnt get it regoed, did me a deal as i hit a roo in my ute, came with 4 20inches n Stock 18s. Gave the bro 500 also to give it a service and chuck a new battery in. 👌
im doing a similar thing but ef falcon, using 6 boost sohc>barra adapter and all stock barra parts
I keep coming back to your video , as well as others , thinking mmm , should i keep me fg lpg car or motor and turbo it . Or should i hot up my lpg fgx . Decisions , decisions .
Either way , you did a great job 👍😁
Seen many Territory factory Turbos for less then 10k
There is a 3rd option, buy an already completed NA+T. They are worth less than factory turbo cars. So you might find thats the least expensive way to do it.
If I use an FG OEM log style turbo exhaust manifold on my BA, will the FG dump pipe fit properly ?
I’m a year off my ls with a 08 fg but 5 speed slips and coolant leak from a hose. what should i do?
ahahah great to be featured at the start. Lovely! Great video once again.
also off topic a bit, but have you been hitting the gym? You're looking a bit swole dude.
I have a na xr50 that I love and want to +t it so bad. I can afford parts of the 15k ish price tag but to get some1 to install it is what's holding me back. I have very limited mechanical knowledge and would def need the assistance. How much did the install cost u in Townsville?
I have to totally disagree. A N/A turbocharged car will not sell for anywhere near a XR6T in year's to come. So to say spending 17k on transforming a N/A into a turbo is better financially then buying a xr6t is incorrect. In 10+ year's I can assure you that the xr6t will be worth at least double to what it is today. In 20 years the sky is the limit. In fact a totally stock xr6t particularly in manual, will be worth crazy money.
18psi it will be making around 400kw 540hp
Great stuff as always Mr fg mods . If u add the cost of the car which is total cost of the build . Car is a massive part of the build . 😉 . U can have my XR50T for 20k .
I just bought an NA FG with a ZF6 for 4K
Try paying an actual performance engine builder to build the engine with the conversion and let me know. Yes definitely cheaper if you can do everything yourself but if you can't you could easily add thousands of dollars labour cost to it.
What about labour costing?
What did it cost for them to put it all in and tune in within 3 days? And ya know ya can do it for under 12k
$17,000?
Absurd.
Should have just bought a turbo engine for $4000 online, along with a few parts.
Also, imagine paying all that cash for a ZF conversion and putting in the wrong ZF.
Keep alert!
Just buy a turbo motor and a few parts? The “few parts” being literally everything needed to convert the car from NA to Turbo 😂
Is the turbo ZF not good enough for you?
@@fgmods Great that you finally have the car set up with the turbo and all, but you could have sold the NA for $10,000 then bought a turbo for $20,000, which is $7,000 less than you spent to have a non genuine turbo FG to begin with.
I dislike the idea of selling an NA to get a turbo, instead of turning it into a turbo generally, as it is very cheap to turbo an N/A Falcon.
But at the price you paid, it seemingly would have been a good idea.
I've done this mod on 3 Falcon's so far - BF 2 to FG series 1.
You buy a $400 gt3582 turbo and intercooler kit from Ebay, exhaust manifold from wreck yard or online for $600 or so, etc, etc.
Set it to 6psi, Good for 250kw at the fly, safe for an NA setup with 5 gears, and even more power with the ZF NA and Turbo/V8 six speed.
Exhaust setups are bought cheap too online, and everywhere, wastegates are cheap, and so on.
Total cost of under $2500 with tuning each time, using the stock BTR 4 speed, 5 speed mustang gear box, and the N/A ZF.
Now, you've spent $17,000 - That's absurd - and it isn't even a genuine thingo, or a whatsamajigga.
That cash would have been better spent elsewhere is my whole point.
Again, great that you have the car, but you seemingly ripped yourself off.
For example, Holden's are ugly, but a VE SS is being sold for $12-$20,000 online, and is already quicker and stronger in stock form than the FG turbo.
Had you of bought one of them for $14k and spent $3k on mods, it would absolutely fly.
Should be more clever with the cash, $17,000 is an absurd amount to pay/spend to turbo these cars.
Should be under $5000 absolute max in all cases, especially for the amount of power you are happy with.
Of course you'd start with the strongest version of the car you could to begin with - not go through a conversion of gearboxes and so on which is just wasted cash in the end, added to the cost of turboing the FG.
You could also do a backyard job, just strap the turbo on and run a safe 5psi to get about 240kw at the fly.
Engine ECU will compensate, car should run fairly decent without a tune. Best to get a tune though.
If you find a spare grand lying around, buy a ratty BA Falcon and try it out.
If it blows up, whatever. If it doesn't, you've got a baseline!
That said, keep up the good work.
I enjoy your content.
Peace.
Did you install everything yourself? How much would labour be if you couldn’t install all those parts in the car by yourself?
A mixture of doing it myself and help from friends. You can see all the work the guys at Elite did in the turbo conversion video.
Other than the stuff in the engine, it’s all quite simple and I think the average car person could do it themselves and save a lot on labour costs.
You said it cost you 16 odd thousand to turbo the car. Which is cheaper than buying a XR6 Turbo. But did you include the cost of your car.
Doesn’t make much sense to include the cost of the car when I already own the car and have for many years.
This is about turbocharging a car you already own.
Not going out and buying a car THEN turbocharging it.
@@fgmods so if you could sell your n/a for 10k then it would be cheaper to purchase a turbo car for 25k with mods ( which are out there ) then turboing your n/a
Can this be done to a g6 that’s stock na
not really these days fg xr6ts are selling for below 20k now, seen one with 180k kms brembos x hwp for 15k on marketplace, they are coming down fast.. bought mine 2022 for 17k 250k kms though.
Lol 😆 🤣
We need to see sh##t lips 💋
Like I said in the video, the occasional clapped turbo for 15K doesn’t mean the prices are coming down. The average is still over 20K.
Buying a flogged out, busted arse ex HWP car is something I would steer the fuck away from.
Some have low km's, but everything underneath is broken, or body seams are loose at the spotwelds
Mate I bought a xr6t for 3 spent 7 iv got 750hp all for 10g
3k? how fucked is it?
How much would this cost say In 4 years from now
You’d have to accurately guess the rate of inflation and value of the Australian dollar to answer that 😅
If I ever wake up one day, with a Ford Falcon sitting in the driveway...*REALLY* wanting to prove the "n/a motor can take boost"...I hope I die by lunchtime
What an odd thing to say
@@fgmodsyep , really odd .
You've added more horsepower and more value
Honestly you might feel good about it all but that's a lot of money to make not a lot of power all on a stock NA rotating assembly. It will blow up too if you thrash it or race it. You sound like a dreamer in this video man. NA Falcons sux
This is low quality bait. But I’ll bite anyway.
Over 500HP is “not much power”?
What dream world do you have to be in to think that’s not much power.
As I said in the video, it cost less than buying a factory turbo & it’s been running just fine for ages now.
You might wanna check my Insta if you think I haven’t raced or thrashed it. Because I’ve been handing out the chops from the day it was finished.
@@fgmods It's not bait at all. Ive owned three turbo Falcons and the current one sits at 1300hp and is built right. You NA boyz will NEVER stop spending on your taxis because you will never have them where you really want them to be, and that is fast and reliable. 500hp in a Falcon is fairly lazy, my brothers I30n would probably give you trouble, as in you're all into it to even beat that car. Hence the money wont stop getting pumped in because as I said, NA Falcons sux, NA+T are slow. BTRs are crap, and non turbo ZFs are not good for much power too. So essentially you can keep dreaming that you've cracked the code or just accept that it's a lot of money for not such a great end result. Oh and 18psi on an NA motor is a ticking time bomb. Blown up a couple too. If you think it's fast take it roll racing and see what happens. You will get chopped and it will most likely pop due to all the hot lapping. NA valves, are not your friend mate.
Also 350rwkw on 12psi with that turbo sound optimistic even on E85
@@billetbarra6069 an i30N? 100% bait
@@billetbarra6069Fair call mate, BUT...what other NA Ford Falcon would give such streetable power for $16 K ? All the classic Falcons are out, just coz boomers have scooped the market dry before you get anything vaguely worth putting a tuff clevo in to start. Forget how much money the motor and drive line will cost - $16k will be the motor by itself - on top of the rust repairs/paintwork to have something even registerable. He has a point, for those young guys who got a FG on P plates, put a ton of coin doing bushes and springs/shocks etc, then go full license and finally earning good money, they don't wanna just throw it all away, and see what he did and think, "Ya know, that looks do-able" !!! 🍺👍
16k. no thanks
Cheaper than buying an XR6T
imagine saying no to 500hp for $20k ground-up