In order to play 4/4 that fast, you kind of have to remain perfectly still and not exert yourself too much. It’s all mainly in the wrists with that particular beat.
Dee Dee may have verbally counted off all the songs (something he was pretty famous for), but it was Johnny who selected the tempos. It doesn’t say here exactly when this footage was taken, but judging by the hair and the light speed tempo my guess is some time around Subterranean Jungle (‘82-‘83). By then their gigs had sped up considerably, and that was all thanks to Johnny.
Amazing thing to me was i've heard many bands try to replicate their sound..Nobody could..i also remember when lots of musicians said this was simple chords, songs, progressions, etc..Yet none of them ever tried it..Nobody sounded like and never will sound like 'em..RIP to all of them..
It’s like I’ve always told naysayers: it’s all too easy to accuse the Ramones of being ‘simple’ until you try to cover one of their songs, and I mean *AUTHENTICALLY* cover it… exactly the same way they played it, downstrokes and all. There’s a lot of crazy time changes and unorthodox arrangements that most people don’t even notice when they’re just listening to the music, but then you sit down and actually learn to play the songs, and then you find out. Just because there’s no 10 minute guitar solos or jazz-prog time signatures doesn’t mean this stuff isn’t difficult to master.
Actually, it was Dee Dee who I first noticed the downstroke thing with, not Johnny… but I think that was because I was in front of Dee Dee’s side of the stage the first time I saw them. At any rate, Dee Dee was my main inspiration for choosing bass as my instrument, and I was adamant about downstroke picking, at first. Later on I started ‘letting’ myself double-pick, and even finger-pick… but doing downstroke-only in the beginning was a great foundation. However I don’t recommend it for long periods of time, unless you actually want carpal tunnel syndrome.
@@CharlieMoney77 ... first off, I love the Ramones. I've been playing bass for over 50 years and always with a felt pick. This type of pick which is a little softer than plastic or shell makes it very easy to play up and down strokes and do it very quickly when necessary too. The one time I saw the Ramones was at the old Studio 54 in NYC it was probably mid 1990s and it seems like every song they played took about 43 seconds - amazing speed.
No tan simple como parece. Están pasando muchas cosas debajo de la superficie con sus arreglos y cambios de hora. Es un simple ritmo de 4/4, y son principalmente arreglos de "verso, verso, estribillo", pero con un giro. En los años 80 estaba en una banda que tenía que aprender un conjunto completo de canciones de los Ramones para un homenaje (en los días antes de que tales cosas fueran comunes), y estábamos decididos a hacerlos exactamente de la misma manera que los Ramones los hicieron. No solo la selección de abajo, sino cada pequeño matiz. Fue una tarea mucho más difícil de lo que cualquiera de nosotros esperaba.
Marky Ramone is just an utterly unbelievable drummer. To play that fast for one song is amazing, but to play an entire concert like that is just incredible
this was the tempo i heard when i saw them back in the day here in SF..Man, the word was NEVER be late for a Ramones show..it could and sometimes was over in 35 or 40 minutes..
I hated when they started playing these warp-speed tempos. It just zapped all the soul out of the songs and made them sound almost mechanical. I don’t blame Marky though. That was all Johnny’s idea. He wanted to cram as many songs into their set as possible.
I always thought this was a cover from a 60s surf band, found out today that dee dee wrote it in the style of the beach boys Just think its cool that a song writer can encapsulate a genre so well
I remember the very first time my mom listened to the Ramones when I played the Rocket To Russia album, and her exact words were “They’re just a much louder version of The Beach Boys”. That was 44 years ago, but I remember it like it was just 5 minutes ago. What a lot of people don’t know is that in their early days, or at least right around the time of the first album, they were trying like hell to be the next Bay City Rollers. Blitzkrieg Bop was their response to S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y… Night! I’ve heard this said by both Dee Dee and Tommy.
...and they hated the beach except DiDi. Rockaway beach was a dump next to Kennedy Airport, still love the song, the Ramones and home town NY. Used to see them in the Cat Club in NY, especially towering-goofy-skinny-grumpy Joey. Saw them live in Amsterdam at the Paradiso were I just walked into the dressingroom when DeDe was expressing his anger at his manger for forgetting the Oreos, or was Chips Ahoy?
Johnny was feeling it that night. Downstrokes were crazy (like always) and he played two short solos in "I Can't Make It On Time" and "Do You Remember Rock 'N' Roll Radio?"
I’m gonna guess the reason he was feeling it might’ve had something to do with the fact that this was during the period where Johnny was telling them to speed everything up. At that time (early 80’s) it was still a novel concept. Everything was speeding up back then. Hardcore was in full swing, thrash was developing out of hardcore, and the Ramones were being labeled as “godfathers of hardcore” in the music press. Johnny took that as a challenge, and responded by speeding everything up to hyperspace. Personally I thought it ruined their gigs. I mean yeah, they could cram a lot more songs into their sets, but it took so much away from the original spirit of it all. I liked it better when they were playing only a tiny bit faster live than the recordings. After the turn of the decade that dynamic was gone forever. “It’s the end, the end of the seventies… It’s the end, the end of the century”
One, two, three, four Chewing out a rhythm on my bubble gum The sun is out and I want some It's not hard, not far to reach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach Up on the roof, out on the street Down in the playground the hot concrete Bus ride is too slow They blast out the disco on the radio Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach It's not hard, not far to reach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach It's not hard, not far to reach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach Chewing out a rhythm on my bubble gum The sun is out and I want some It's not hard, not far to reach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach Up on the roof, out on the street Down in the playground the hot concrete Bus ride is too slow They blast out the disco on the radio Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach Rock, rock, rockaway beach We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
That bass dee dee has is the one he gave away during a concert. He would put special moisture strips under the pick guard so sweat wouldn't fuck the electronics up.
This is the end of the 'head-down Marky era'. He sort of still plays with his head down the whole time. Later years, he advanced his posture and played 'head up' like a normal drummer.
Crazy - we have august 2023 and i read about a shark attack on a woman at "Rockaway Beach" in a german newspaper (YES-printed! Not Online!). Being a strong follower of the RAMONES since the early 1980s I immediately had to go here to listen to this song with VOLUME UP! Greater than great. It's been a long time since i heard this iconic riffs for the last time. Where have all the years gone by? Greetings from germany.
+Gothita3 they had originally put Rock Way beach instead of Rockaway ...it has been corrected since then ...and ummm yeah I live close to Rockaway Beach in Queens so yeah I know it's a real place .
Rockaway' IS a great song but this reminds me of seeing them live in the 80s & knowing something wasn't right but not realising how disillusioned the band were & just getting the gigs 'done & out of the way' before the next one ,nearly every song they played live after the lack of success of 'End of the Century' was too fast - at heart & on their records Ramones were a pop group or the last great rock n roll band ,with a groove & pacing .A mosh pit at a Ramones gig ? - 'The Horror...'
Sure I'm an 'old man' (50s now) but I wasn't in the 70s/80s- if you honestly enjoy Ramones later live performances then good( they certainly didn't)- Joey clearly didn't didn't have the vocal register for songs at that speed . I'll stick with the earlier lps & 'Its Alive' ta. I have to concur with Danny Baker on 'The end of the Century' DVD commentary saying they (later on) sound like a washing machine on spin cycle...
@@andchat6241 I see where you're coming from. Lots of early Ramones fans have the same opinion. I just happen to listen to mostly skate punk and other sub-genres of that sort, which plays really fast. That's why I take liking to their later style. It's very punk of them😅
Well they still kept the audience happy - I'm certainly not adverse to a bit of hardcore- I really liked bad brains, discharge ,MDC,Husker & Dead kennedys in 1980 was one of my favourite gigs....
Marky has always gotten a lot of flak for the tempos speeding up and what have you, and yes Tommy was great and he invented the classic Ramones style of drumming with the doubled-up hi-hat, but it really wasn’t Marky’s fault that everything went warp speed. That was all Johnny. He wanted to cram in as many songs as he possibly could into their set, without extending the length of the gigs. I think everyone knows now that the Ramones were a dictatorship, and Johnny was the one calling all the shots. All I know is that I’ve always felt a bit bad for Marky, since he always took a lot of the blame for the tempo thing. Richie too.
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Los Ramones en pasajes oscuros salvaron mi vida. Me devolvieron la alegría y la pasión por la vida.
Life is a gas amigo 🙂
If you were to give me the opportunity to go back in time to see five bands in their prime, The Ramones would be in the top two.
And what's the other band you want to see?
The Remainz??
THEY WERE FUCKING AWESOME
If I I had their ability to time travel to the past, one of the first things I would do is see the Ramones in concert.
My first gig June 77, Roundhouse, Camden Town. Talking Heads were the support band.
Markey plays the drums so effortlessly. He's hardly moving up there, yet....Killing!
no lie..no wasted motion at all..
In order to play 4/4 that fast, you kind of have to remain perfectly still and not exert yourself too much. It’s all mainly in the wrists with that particular beat.
No kidding he never gets enough credit what a dynamo and so solid!
Damn, it sounds like Dee Dee's count and tempo really gave Johnny and Marky a workout here!
Great Ramones song! :)
Dee Dee may have verbally counted off all the songs (something he was pretty famous for), but it was Johnny who selected the tempos. It doesn’t say here exactly when this footage was taken, but judging by the hair and the light speed tempo my guess is some time around Subterranean Jungle (‘82-‘83). By then their gigs had sped up considerably, and that was all thanks to Johnny.
@@thesnesman5235 Yeah that’s what I meant by “around” that time. Let’s just say some time after Pleasant Dreams but before Subterranean Jungle.
his counting off the tempo have nothing to do with the tempo of the song.
I'm a lead guitarist and I always say id rather jam with Dee Dee Ramone than someone who's gotta be all flash,He's a really tight player man
Amazing thing to me was i've heard many bands try to replicate their sound..Nobody could..i also remember when lots of musicians said this was simple chords, songs, progressions, etc..Yet none of them ever tried it..Nobody sounded like and never will sound like 'em..RIP to all of them..
It’s like I’ve always told naysayers: it’s all too easy to accuse the Ramones of being ‘simple’ until you try to cover one of their songs, and I mean *AUTHENTICALLY* cover it… exactly the same way they played it, downstrokes and all. There’s a lot of crazy time changes and unorthodox arrangements that most people don’t even notice when they’re just listening to the music, but then you sit down and actually learn to play the songs, and then you find out.
Just because there’s no 10 minute guitar solos or jazz-prog time signatures doesn’t mean this stuff isn’t difficult to master.
One of - if not THE - greatest rock & roll bands of all time!
The only band that matters
Ummmmm
.... no
hahahahaha, you got to be kidding
I’m a big metal fan but I love the Ramones. Top 3 bands of all time.
definitely not
La mejor banda de la historia junto a otras, pero la mas infravalorada
Everyone always talks about Johnny being one of the kings of downstrokes but dee see is always right there with him. He doesn’t get enough credit.
Actually, it was Dee Dee who I first noticed the downstroke thing with, not Johnny… but I think that was because I was in front of Dee Dee’s side of the stage the first time I saw them. At any rate, Dee Dee was my main inspiration for choosing bass as my instrument, and I was adamant about downstroke picking, at first. Later on I started ‘letting’ myself double-pick, and even finger-pick… but doing downstroke-only in the beginning was a great foundation. However I don’t recommend it for long periods of time, unless you actually want carpal tunnel syndrome.
To be honest Dee Dee played single notes and not full chords so it's not that hard. Trust me I play both bass and guitar xD
@@CharlieMoney77 ... first off, I love the Ramones. I've been playing bass for over 50 years and always with a felt pick. This type of pick which is a little softer than plastic or shell makes it very easy to play up and down strokes and do it very quickly when necessary too. The one time I saw the Ramones was at the old Studio 54 in NYC it was probably mid 1990s and it seems like every song they played took about 43 seconds - amazing speed.
Absolutely bang on for sure!
Música muy sencilla,pero a ver quién toca a esa velocidad ...ufff.increible
No tan simple como parece. Están pasando muchas cosas debajo de la superficie con sus arreglos y cambios de hora. Es un simple ritmo de 4/4, y son principalmente arreglos de "verso, verso, estribillo", pero con un giro. En los años 80 estaba en una banda que tenía que aprender un conjunto completo de canciones de los Ramones para un homenaje (en los días antes de que tales cosas fueran comunes), y estábamos decididos a hacerlos exactamente de la misma manera que los Ramones los hicieron. No solo la selección de abajo, sino cada pequeño matiz. Fue una tarea mucho más difícil de lo que cualquiera de nosotros esperaba.
Marky Ramone is just an utterly unbelievable drummer. To play that fast for one song is amazing, but to play an entire concert like that is just incredible
They wanted to get the show over as fast as possible. Johnny and Joey feuded for 20 years and hated each other.
this was the tempo i heard when i saw them back in the day here in SF..Man, the word was NEVER be late for a Ramones show..it could and sometimes was over in 35 or 40 minutes..
I hated when they started playing these warp-speed tempos. It just zapped all the soul out of the songs and made them sound almost mechanical. I don’t blame Marky though. That was all Johnny’s idea. He wanted to cram as many songs into their set as possible.
Unici. Immortali. Stupendi.
I was lucky to see them twice, Once in the Venue in Victoria London and again at Leeds university. Wiil never forget the experience
Dee Dee is the fucking LORD!
LONG LIFE DEE DEE RAMONE... NEVER DIE!!
Well he already did
Love listening to these guys during my workouts. Pumping
😃🤟
Hi, what is your phone number
I always thought this was a cover from a 60s surf band, found out today that dee dee wrote it in the style of the beach boys
Just think its cool that a song writer can encapsulate a genre so well
Rockaway Beach Queens NYC!!
I remember the very first time my mom listened to the Ramones when I played the Rocket To Russia album, and her exact words were “They’re just a much louder version of The Beach Boys”. That was 44 years ago, but I remember it like it was just 5 minutes ago.
What a lot of people don’t know is that in their early days, or at least right around the time of the first album, they were trying like hell to be the next Bay City Rollers. Blitzkrieg Bop was their response to S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y… Night! I’ve heard this said by both Dee Dee and Tommy.
@@Shikta-poobah67 she was spot on
Marky wearing one of his better wigs here.
hahaha
??????????
Seeing his gig was one of the best nights ever. I don't care about his wig, maaan he can play !
Back then it was his natural hair
They'll be talking about this band 400 years from now. I guarantee ramones will still be influential then.
I’d really be amazed if the human race survives another 50 years, much less 400.
...and they hated the beach except DiDi. Rockaway beach was a dump next to Kennedy Airport, still love the song, the Ramones and home town NY. Used to see them in the Cat Club in NY, especially towering-goofy-skinny-grumpy Joey. Saw them live in Amsterdam at the Paradiso were I just walked into the dressingroom when DeDe was expressing his anger at his manger for forgetting the Oreos, or was Chips Ahoy?
Joey loved the beach.
Johnny was feeling it that night. Downstrokes were crazy (like always) and he played two short solos in "I Can't Make It On Time" and "Do You Remember Rock 'N' Roll Radio?"
I’m gonna guess the reason he was feeling it might’ve had something to do with the fact that this was during the period where Johnny was telling them to speed everything up. At that time (early 80’s) it was still a novel concept. Everything was speeding up back then. Hardcore was in full swing, thrash was developing out of hardcore, and the Ramones were being labeled as “godfathers of hardcore” in the music press. Johnny took that as a challenge, and responded by speeding everything up to hyperspace. Personally I thought it ruined their gigs. I mean yeah, they could cram a lot more songs into their sets, but it took so much away from the original spirit of it all. I liked it better when they were playing only a tiny bit faster live than the recordings. After the turn of the decade that dynamic was gone forever.
“It’s the end, the end of the seventies…
It’s the end, the end of the century”
Li hai visti dal vivo a Castel Sant'Angelo?
One, two, three, four
Chewing out a rhythm on my bubble gum
The sun is out and I want some
It's not hard, not far to reach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Up on the roof, out on the street
Down in the playground the hot concrete
Bus ride is too slow
They blast out the disco on the radio
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
It's not hard, not far to reach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
It's not hard, not far to reach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Chewing out a rhythm on my bubble gum
The sun is out and I want some
It's not hard, not far to reach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Up on the roof, out on the street
Down in the playground the hot concrete
Bus ride is too slow
They blast out the disco on the radio
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
Rock, rock, rockaway beach
We can hitch a ride to rockaway beach
Thanks. Ramones 4 life
SO GOOD, GOLDEN AND HARD-DRIVING! 😁😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎😎😍😍😍😍😍😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭👫👫👫👫👫👦👦👦👦👦👧👧👧👧👧👨👨👨👨👨👩👩👩👩👩👴👴👴👴👴👵👵👵👵👵💖💖💖💖💖🏖🏖🏖🏖🏖🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎙🎙🎙🎙🎙🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🏄🏄🏄🏄🏄🌇🌇🌇🌇🌇🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
that downstroke speed is insane
Ben Stiller on drums
Marky Ramone Dumb
Drummer for ants.
That bass dee dee has is the one he gave away during a concert. He would put special moisture strips under the pick guard so sweat wouldn't fuck the electronics up.
Gonna take a ferry to Rockaway beach next week 😍😍😍😎😎😎
You can take the D train or the Cross Bay Bridge. Why take a ferry?
You can take a fairy to Fire Island though
ラモーンズ全員あの世に行ったね ロックは終わったのかな?
¡CUANTO PODER Y ENERGÍA TENÍAN ESTOS GENIOS!
RAMONES POR SIEMPRE!
I dated that crazy Fulker! Great guy he spent more time in Hunter dorms than I think he wanted to..lolo😅😅
Wow! Save some yayo for the rest of the world guys!!!
This is the end of the 'head-down Marky era'. He sort of still plays with his head down the whole time. Later years, he advanced his posture and played 'head up' like a normal drummer.
Rockaway Beach oouoerre !! like
Simplicidade genial....
View no. 5
Still rock..
Hey ho let's go🇮🇩🇮🇩
Che bomba!!!
RIP Dee Dee Ramone
RIP the entire original lineup
A Igreja Universal garante que este show foi no ano 1965, no Brasil. Eu duvido.#nada.a.perder, Edir Macedo, Sonia Hernandez.
è un concerto a Roma? in che anno? la Rai ha in archivio un concerto dei ramones..?
1980, Castel Sant'Angelo (Roma)
Mitico
Grandi Ramones.... E perché non lo trasmettono alla RAI al posto della merda che mandano in onda oggi.... ??
Ir para abajo todo el tema no es para cualquiera
Crazy - we have august 2023 and i read about a shark attack on a woman at "Rockaway Beach" in a german newspaper (YES-printed! Not Online!). Being a strong follower of the RAMONES since the early 1980s I immediately had to go here to listen to this song with VOLUME UP! Greater than great. It's been a long time since i heard this iconic riffs for the last time. Where have all the years gone by? Greetings from germany.
Música simple en la teoria, pero imposible tocar la guitarra cómo el Jhonny.... él jamás podría tocar cómo Hendrix pero Hendrix cómo el tampoco.
Dedicated to Carlo !❤
Pure raw power 🤟💪
I was severely grounded and wasn't allowed to go to the final Ramones tour😭 still salty
Anyone know where this concert was held?
😍
Man man growing up the Damien’s where it!!!
Eternos❤❤!!!!!!!
Non ci credo, la Rai ha mandato in onda un concerto dei Ramones?! 🤣🤣
È vero incredibile.... A cosa cazzo siamo ridotti oggi invece... Grandi Romones
Carlo, Alfredo and everybody..!! Grande Joey
💖🔥🔥💘🎶🎸🎸🦄🦄💖💖🕊🕊😍😍
Rock Way Beach. LMAO
Rockaway beach is actually a place. Don't know why you're laughing?
+Gothita3 they had originally put Rock Way beach instead of Rockaway ...it has been corrected since then ...and ummm yeah I live close to Rockaway Beach in Queens so yeah I know it's a real place .
More like Faraway Beach
Fuckin' hell! the speed of of Johnny, more like Runaway Beach
Rockaway Beach sucks (the beach, not the song). I found someone's dentures there once lol
Is no one going to mention the fact that the caption says “ROCK WAY BEACH”?
The beach has chosen its way. Support your local beach.
Rockaway Beach Queens! NYC!
@@rich1223 live there
@@declanlohan7951 Cool! I grew up in Far Rockaway! But lived all over the Rockaways!
Full show
皆、大好きばいね！！
Rockaway' IS a great song but this reminds me of seeing them live in the 80s & knowing something wasn't right but not realising how disillusioned the band were & just getting the gigs 'done & out of the way' before the next one ,nearly every song they played live after the lack of success of 'End of the Century' was too fast - at heart & on their records Ramones were a pop group or the last great rock n roll band ,with a groove & pacing .A mosh pit at a Ramones gig ? - 'The Horror...'
Old man! They sound so powerful when they play faster, especially in the 90s
Sure I'm an 'old man' (50s now) but I wasn't in the 70s/80s- if you honestly enjoy Ramones later live performances then good( they certainly didn't)- Joey clearly didn't didn't have the vocal register for songs at that speed . I'll stick with the earlier lps & 'Its Alive' ta. I have to concur with Danny Baker on 'The end of the Century' DVD commentary saying they (later on) sound like a washing machine on spin cycle...
@@andchat6241 I see where you're coming from. Lots of early Ramones fans have the same opinion. I just happen to listen to mostly skate punk and other sub-genres of that sort, which plays really fast. That's why I take liking to their later style. It's very punk of them😅
Well they still kept the audience happy - I'm certainly not adverse to a bit of hardcore- I really liked bad brains, discharge ,MDC,Husker & Dead kennedys in 1980 was one of my favourite gigs....
@@andchat6241 I ♥️ 80s hardcore
it was so much better with tommy ramone on drums
Marky has always gotten a lot of flak for the tempos speeding up and what have you, and yes Tommy was great and he invented the classic Ramones style of drumming with the doubled-up hi-hat, but it really wasn’t Marky’s fault that everything went warp speed. That was all Johnny. He wanted to cram in as many songs as he possibly could into their set, without extending the length of the gigs. I think everyone knows now that the Ramones were a dictatorship, and Johnny was the one calling all the shots. All I know is that I’ve always felt a bit bad for Marky, since he always took a lot of the blame for the tempo thing. Richie too.
Thanks to RCA records.... totally corporate band,much as I loved them....and I made Joey's guest list in '85....I didn't go....