I like how Henry doesn't have a comeback for all that Katharine is saying, because he knows - He knows deep down that what she is saying is true so he tells her to go away
@@gretahassock8914 Henry couldn't kill Catherine of Aragon if he didn't want to start a war with Spain. Which was more powerful than England at that time.
I feel bad for Mary in a way. She was just left to rot. In a way I understand Elizabeth’s reluctance to marry aside from politics. She knows how she will be seen as less with a man by her side.
Even at the end of her life, and after all that he did to her, she did indeed call herself the rightful Queen of England, the rightful wife of the King. She'd have been that even if Arthur, Henry's older brother, had lived to be King instead. Which while I'm sure Catherine wondered what would have happened had that occurred, she still accepted what fate gave her and didn't give up on her rightful titles.
@@molasorrosalom4846 Anne/a of Cleves was the most luckiest since she didn't last long in his hands or else maybe beheaded or died. Anne Boleyn has the most worst hand since she was beheaded of false accusation of having treason and sleeping with other mens. She was beheaded because she cannot gave Henry a son he wanted. Katherine Howard's fate was kinda worst since she was molested at 13th and was yearning true love and all that she got was lust. She was raised to be perfect by her parents that until the last night of her life, she practiced laying her head down the execution block all night. She was the youngest of them all, still a child.
@@twiceornone8391 Anne of Cleves never remarried or had any children though. And I believe she had a fall from favor towards the end and had a ton of her properties taken from her
Katherine and Anne were both dealt awful hands. We can debate all day which was worse or deserved, but at the day's end the fact is that both those poor women married a monster.
I think he needed to be haunted by all of his wives honestly. Sure we got Catherine, Anne, and Jane but I wanted Anna and Katherine to also make appearances (despite Anna not being dead)
I think he was only haunted by Catherine, Anne and Jane because they were the wives that had his children. I know what you mean though, i would've liked to see Howard's ghost too
Nah, Anna got the best deal out of all of them so she wouldn’t have haunted him. Henry and Anna had a wonderful friendship after their marriage was annulled and Anna was even called “the King’s beloved sister”
to be honest i feel like Catherine, Anne and Jane came to teach him something, Catherine was there to tell him a bad farther to mary, Anne came back to tell him that she was innocent of her crimes, Jane came back to tell him about there son was going died young and it was his fault for locking him up from the world and did just like his father did, as for Anna and Katherine, anna she was still alive until 1557 way after henry died, Katherine was brought up by Anne but still Katherine was a spoiled brat.
This was a good show but it was filled with some inaccuracies, Queen Katherine was blue eyed and had red hair. I also see at the bottom of the screen that The Borgias would start in one week. I ❤️❤️❤️ that show 🥰
At first I was upset he didn't show more remorse for Catherine's buttttt knowing Henry LOL I think he was scared of her he asked why she came back I think he was hoping to avoid a beat down
She didn't but after she was beyond her childbearing years, Henry would have had to have children with mistresses and those children would be illegitimate.
@@sindelscat9336 Yes. Too bad nobody knew it was Henry's problem and not Catherine; she gave birth to 7 children in all, but they didn't die because of her, Catherine could have given many heirs to England before she passed her fertility years. And this was also proved with Anne Boleyn. *HE* was the problem
marriage is an institution taking place in front of god. Abusive people have sinned and are no longer children of god so divorce in such case is acceptable. But to divorce for infatuation of a younger lover or unwillingness to work things out.... that is simply unacceptable
Henry actually didn't ask for a divorce, he asked for an annulment. A divorce recognises that a marriage has taken place before splitting it in two. An annulment is a claim that the marriage did not exist in the first place. Henry argued that because Catherine had been his brother's wife, their marriage was against church law and so they had never been truly married in the first place. The distinction is important.
Let's just agree that pretty much all of them had it worst in their own right (tho Cleves had only faced humiliation from Henry but then recovered after inheriting a crap ton of fortune.)
@@milk_chocolxte Sorry dude, she had it real bad that's true, but Catherine was humiliated and mistreated for YEARS, she lost five babies, he king cheated on her all the time, she had no friends, then a girls appears out of nowhere breaking her 24 years marriage, her husband abandoned her, declare their only surviving child a bastard, he didn't even let her see her own daughter, not even when she was dying sick, even after she died he still mistreated Mary not letting her go to her own mother's funeral where he and Anne were celebrating. Howard was a child and suffer a lot, she got use over and over again, I'm never going to deny that, but clearly Catherine of Aragon had it the worse.
Although Henry turned out to be a tyrant I do feel sorry for him because he also had a pretty unfortunate life. I also kind of wanted to see Mary crying, so it would show the abandonment and the torment she went through for all those years.
She should be held accountable for the actions Mary did as queen since Mary did them to avenge her. Team Anne and Elizabeth all the way and I don’t care that Catholics suffered under Elizabeth
I like how Henry doesn't have a comeback for all that Katharine is saying, because he knows - He knows deep down that what she is saying is true so he tells her to go away
So true. All he can do is whine about her "chiding" him. And of course she gets in the last word.
Well at least she didn't get beheaded
Except the part where she says that she's still his wife.
@@gretahassock8914 Henry couldn't kill Catherine of Aragon if he didn't want to start a war with Spain. Which was more powerful than England at that time.
Henry vii to ghost:
Jane Seymour Ghost: (nothing really)
Katherine of Aragon Ghost: Go away!
Anne boleyn ghost: Anne pls dont go
I feel bad for Mary in a way. She was just left to rot. In a way I understand Elizabeth’s reluctance to marry aside from politics. She knows how she will be seen as less with a man by her side.
Even at the end of her life, and after all that he did to her, she did indeed call herself the rightful Queen of England, the rightful wife of the King. She'd have been that even if Arthur, Henry's older brother, had lived to be King instead. Which while I'm sure Catherine wondered what would have happened had that occurred, she still accepted what fate gave her and didn't give up on her rightful titles.
But we rather be Protestant.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 you would rather be Protestant
@@sindelscat9336 I rather be President.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 oh yeah and how did that turn out for you?
@@sindelscat9336 A very bad Headache. But I will run again.
#LINCOLN2020!!!
She was dealt the worse hand and the least deserving of what she got :/....
I wouldn't say she was dealt the worst, he didn't have her publicly executed.
@@molasorrosalom4846 Anne/a of Cleves was the most luckiest since she didn't last long in his hands or else maybe beheaded or died. Anne Boleyn has the most worst hand since she was beheaded of false accusation of having treason and sleeping with other mens. She was beheaded because she cannot gave Henry a son he wanted. Katherine Howard's fate was kinda worst since she was molested at 13th and was yearning true love and all that she got was lust. She was raised to be perfect by her parents that until the last night of her life, she practiced laying her head down the execution block all night. She was the youngest of them all, still a child.
@@twiceornone8391
Anne of Cleves never remarried or had any children though. And I believe she had a fall from favor towards the end and had a ton of her properties taken from her
@@molasorrosalom4846 Cause marriage and children are the measure of happiness, right?
Katherine and Anne were both dealt awful hands. We can debate all day which was worse or deserved, but at the day's end the fact is that both those poor women married a monster.
Am I the only one who feels there could have been a ghost of Henry's father, or his brother, prince Arthur?
I thought there should have been a ghost of Catherine Howard
Yes! To tell him that he will be the end of their line, and have Arthur berate him for his treatment of Katherine
I would love to see him talking to his father
@@sindelscat9336 definitely
You don’t introduce new characters during a series finale.
I think he needed to be haunted by all of his wives honestly. Sure we got Catherine, Anne, and Jane but I wanted Anna and Katherine to also make appearances (despite Anna not being dead)
I think he was only haunted by Catherine, Anne and Jane because they were the wives that had his children. I know what you mean though, i would've liked to see Howard's ghost too
Nah, Anna got the best deal out of all of them so she wouldn’t have haunted him. Henry and Anna had a wonderful friendship after their marriage was annulled and Anna was even called “the King’s beloved sister”
to be honest i feel like Catherine, Anne and Jane came to teach him something, Catherine was there to tell him a bad farther to mary, Anne came back to tell him that she was innocent of her crimes, Jane came back to tell him about there son was going died young and it was his fault for locking him up from the world and did just like his father did, as for Anna and Katherine, anna she was still alive until 1557 way after henry died, Katherine was brought up by Anne but still Katherine was a spoiled brat.
I think Anna would have just bullied him until he cries or something like that
@@justingame4459 and Anne was a temptress, she manipulated the king she never really loved him.
He got what he deserves I came to haunt him cause he was treating me like shit
Tell them Queen
Henry was a bad man
agreed even what he did to mary
Some of the wives were bad too
Yes he was a bad man, and a horrible husband.
This was a good show but it was filled with some inaccuracies, Queen Katherine was blue eyed and had red hair. I also see at the bottom of the screen that The Borgias would start in one week. I ❤️❤️❤️ that show 🥰
Katherine of Aragon died from a broken heart. Literally. She had cardiac cancer.
At first I was upset he didn't show more remorse for Catherine's buttttt knowing Henry LOL I think he was scared of her he asked why she came back I think he was hoping to avoid a beat down
She didn’t deserved this
agreed
She didn't but after she was beyond her childbearing years, Henry would have had to have children with mistresses and those children would be illegitimate.
sindel kahn they were illegitimate
@@GermanRojas-wf3hr yes they were, but he needed legitimate heirs, and Catherine could no longer give him the son he needed at that point
@@sindelscat9336 Yes. Too bad nobody knew it was Henry's problem and not Catherine; she gave birth to 7 children in all, but they didn't die because of her, Catherine could have given many heirs to England before she passed her fertility years. And this was also proved with Anne Boleyn. *HE* was the problem
marriage is an institution taking place in front of god.
Abusive people have sinned and are no longer children of god so divorce in such case is acceptable. But to divorce for infatuation of a younger lover or unwillingness to work things out.... that is simply unacceptable
Catherine did try to make him happy by ever time he said no.
I say amen
I wonder what god thinks if both parties agreed to end the marriage.
Henry actually didn't ask for a divorce, he asked for an annulment. A divorce recognises that a marriage has taken place before splitting it in two. An annulment is a claim that the marriage did not exist in the first place. Henry argued that because Catherine had been his brother's wife, their marriage was against church law and so they had never been truly married in the first place. The distinction is important.
Who needs the entire competition part of Six the Musical?? Catherine of Aragon OBVIOUSLY wins!
**Katherine Howard has entered the chat**
@@milk_chocolxte Oh yeah
Let's just agree that pretty much all of them had it worst in their own right (tho Cleves had only faced humiliation from Henry but then recovered after inheriting a crap ton of fortune.)
Nah Its Anne boleyn.
@@milk_chocolxte Sorry dude, she had it real bad that's true, but Catherine was humiliated and mistreated for YEARS, she lost five babies, he king cheated on her all the time, she had no friends, then a girls appears out of nowhere breaking her 24 years marriage, her husband abandoned her, declare their only surviving child a bastard, he didn't even let her see her own daughter, not even when she was dying sick, even after she died he still mistreated Mary not letting her go to her own mother's funeral where he and Anne were celebrating. Howard was a child and suffer a lot, she got use over and over again, I'm never going to deny that, but clearly Catherine of Aragon had it the worse.
Intimate stranger
Such a beautiful actress
ayyyyy that's me
Although Henry turned out to be a tyrant I do feel sorry for him because he also had a pretty unfortunate life. I also kind of wanted to see Mary crying, so it would show the abandonment and the torment she went through for all those years.
She should be held accountable for the actions Mary did as queen since Mary did them to avenge her. Team Anne and Elizabeth all the way and I don’t care that Catholics suffered under Elizabeth
Where is this from?
The Tudors, it’s a TV series I’m pretty sure you can find on Netflix
Katherine didn’t love Henry. It was an arranged marriage.
Why only Katherine? What about those of others whom he so freely exevuted?
🤣🤣