You are so right. Look at the snowmobiles. They last 4000 miles then the motor blows. Most of the rental places don't rent RZR because the motors blow up.
This was a very good video I used to work at a Polaris dealer ship and am certified on all models and engines except for this this one I saw it was going to come out but never got to see or work on one before I quit
As long as people keep paying these prices they will keep raising the prices. Not only is the manufacturer to blame but so are the banks as I am sure for majority of Canadians they are financing this and not purchasing outright. If you took away financing the prices would crash and be priced accordingly.
I would rather put 10-20% down and invest the rest than hand over 40k or whatever it costs anyday. So what if i pay interest. I can make that back and more in investments.
@@jbowen1831 investing has been the smart thing to do, especially since the US government has basically been buying stock. We had a great run with low interest rates and low gas or energy prices. I don't think the market will keep going up with the increase to interest rate and fuel. I'm usually wrong on this stuff. It's just my guess.
I ran Polaris most of my life. I recently sold two Polaris snowmobiles with over 5,000 miles on each of them and the only thing that was fixed or replaced was normal wear & tear items. Never touched the engines with the exception of the carbs were cleaned and or rebuilt every fall. Great sleds. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another one if I was in the market.
For the price this thing needs to be able to go at least 100k 150k miles for me to consider buying one in that case it would serve me as another functional vehicle
@@greatwhitenorthrc509 that would be awesome I’m gonna give maybe another year so people buy them now can get some miles on them to see how long they last
@@iirovannas3908 the previous models get that mileage now an that’s why I’ve never owned one I can’t justify paying that much for something that’s not gonna last I had 2002 350 rancher that had like 22k miles on it before it blew but I only paid like 4500
I think it's great, and can't wait to buy one, but it's time to start making them street legal in all 50 states. For the price these machines cost, I feel like it being street legal is a small request.
Sure street legal would be nice. Lights, horn, windshield & wipers, etc. wouldn't be a big deal. But I gotta wonder what the DOT would say about bumpers and crumple zones and that kinda stuff.
Can't beat a good working CVT system though, IMO. And lighter weight too.That's why snowsleds use em. Sleds wouldn't but worth a hoot with a manual transmission and they'd always have a fried clutch from slipping it all the time. Kinda like the motocross racers, they go thru a lot of clutches too I believe.
@@oneninerniner3427 offer the dct on the Polaris, and while not a motorcross bike, the Honda Africa twin , street/trail motorcycle is where the dct in the talon/pioneer derived from
It damn well better last longer than 10,000 miles, I have almost 15,000 miles on my 17 general and a majority of it is at high rpm and 50 to 60 mph speeds and I’ve never had to open up the motor. Just religious maintenance routine
Amazing that much design and horse power from that motor. Think about back in 1990 most cars didn't have that horse power. Especially that power to weight.
A manual boost controller with a boost gauge and I was slayin my buddies Camaro and the other ones mustang! The added hp combined with all wheel drive and I was unbeatable…. For a little while! And to your point, 90 hp less on the naturally aspirated eclipse!
I thought the industry self regulated and had a 1000cc limit. I guess this 2.0 will be the next step in the hp war. Too rich for my blood. I will stick with my 900S.
I heard that 1000cc or less made it so no emissions or safety features and that made them road worthy in some states. I heard that was why manufacturers didn't go over 1000cc.
@@justincoats7236 I'm not sure about the specifics, but I read somewhere that over 1000 put it into a category of government regulation that they didn't want to deal with. Definitely could be the emissions regs.
Too big for my area, 1000cc and less than 2000lbs. Plus it cost more than my new chevy trailboss. I'd love to drive one but for me high boost 1L is the ticket
225 BHP through a belt? A engine that appears to be initially designed to go in a road vechile put in a off road vechile and had to modified to work properly, a 4 cylinder heavy power plant when surley a 2 cylinder with a turbo could develop the same power with less weight? And probably a price tag that's eye watering? O yer, sounds a fair bit of kit! 😂😂😂
Unfortunately our economy is based on lending That’s why it crashes when they raise the interest rates And everybody who’s making payments on something is responsible We did it to ourselves We just needed a little encouragement from the feds
It seems like a great set up, but the comment about most sxs won’t see 10,000 miles tells me this guys not a utv guy. I know a good bit of Yamaha owners past that mileage. And I’m sure they are others .
jesus. I'm at 3400 miles on a 2022 Suzuki KG. Your saying 10 000 miles is a lifetime. Well I've burned out 5 atv's then since 2007. Driven 120 000 miles. Wait till we're back in the 1980's. When insurance corporations pressured Atv manufactures to come up with a max speed. Limiting the gearing. Doing away with the All out fun factor. In Canada. We're lucky. But other then fire roads. (preying you don't meet someone else coming at you doing the same thing.). It's unpractical. Esp on Seasonal Snowmobile, atv trails that are narrow and single lane. Unless our governments start allowing these on the paved roads. Whats the point of buying a machine your limited in use. I'll buy a jeep or 4runner and it'll do all that and more.
I think they should contact yamaha and show them on how to build real performance engine.... ex: offroad calls for a drysump system , go all out 4 throttle bodies for performance vs 1 big one? , isnt a Yamaha apex motor 20 000+milles for a valve adjustment?....really 10 000 lol..... look at YXZ 3 bodies , dry sump and im sure valves are due way over 10 000.....common polaris??.....
Ive drag raced for 30 years.. Everyone knows you need traction to go faster not just power... 900 hp on the street will get smoked by a 600,, hp... So how much power do you need in SAND????
“ Will last decades “ is a comment that has never been true with Polaris. Hopefully they’ve done a better job than before
Lol I’ve ran polaris all my life and yes they do last decades
Especially the fragile front A's
As long as you got the wallet. You have to treat it like a MB when the warranty is up its time to dump it.
You are so right. Look at the snowmobiles. They last 4000 miles then the motor blows. Most of the rental places don't rent RZR because the motors blow up.
my 200HP Can Am has been great. I will probably stick with Can Am the rest of my life.
This was a very good video I used to work at a Polaris dealer ship and am certified on all models and engines except for this this one I saw it was going to come out but never got to see or work on one before I quit
As long as people keep paying these prices they will keep raising the prices. Not only is the manufacturer to blame but so are the banks as I am sure for majority of Canadians they are financing this and not purchasing outright. If you took away financing the prices would crash and be priced accordingly.
Why wouldn't they keep raising them, it's basically free money
So market inflation has nothing to do with it?
I would rather put 10-20% down and invest the rest than hand over 40k or whatever it costs anyday. So what if i pay interest. I can make that back and more in investments.
@@jbowen1831 exactly! 1.99% on my loan. It would be stupid to pay in cash with that low of an interest rate.
@@jbowen1831 investing has been the smart thing to do, especially since the US government has basically been buying stock. We had a great run with low interest rates and low gas or energy prices. I don't think the market will keep going up with the increase to interest rate and fuel. I'm usually wrong on this stuff. It's just my guess.
Amazing machines no doubt but the price is so high only off road enthusiasts with plenty of disposable income can afford one. Yes, I’m jealous haha!
Man that sure is one unique sound! Great video guys! Enjoyed it
Thank you!!! 👊💥
There has already been issues of oil starvation frying motors.
Please show us a creditable source.
Sxs on RUclips fried one doing donuts on ice
Could you please do another video on the transmission, cvt, and diffs?
I ran Polaris most of my life. I recently sold two Polaris snowmobiles with over 5,000 miles on each of them and the only thing that was fixed or replaced was normal wear & tear items. Never touched the engines with the exception of the carbs were cleaned and or rebuilt every fall. Great sleds. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another one if I was in the market.
Love Polaris sleds. ✌️
@@dirttraxtv *Edit "Love Polaris sleds from the 90's when the engines weren't made by Polaris" ;)
Excellent that's what I like, details. It looks like Polaris really thought this one through. Great job Polaris.
I’m in love with the RZR once again 😍
Brought a different touch on this engine release. Thx
Good information. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Designed for off road use but the oil system had to be modified for off road use 😆
For the price this thing needs to be able to go at least 100k 150k miles for me to consider buying one in that case it would serve me as another functional vehicle
I would think a 4 cylinder let’s call it car style engine will easily last that long
@@greatwhitenorthrc509 if u drive it full time throttle open style i think it last 15-25tkm :D
@@greatwhitenorthrc509 that would be awesome I’m gonna give maybe another year so people buy them now can get some miles on them to see how long they last
@@iirovannas3908 the previous models get that mileage now an that’s why I’ve never owned one I can’t justify paying that much for something that’s not gonna last I had 2002 350 rancher that had like 22k miles on it before it blew but I only paid like 4500
@@lukemyers1432 pro r is for racing etc, its not like daily drive... Idk how u think it should last 100k
Can’t wait to get mine!! Waiting patiently….😬
This is offroad journalism at it's finest! Awesome breakdown! I wish DT did adventure motorcycles too!
Thank you!! Thought Luke did an excellent job presenting this segment (this is not Luke writing this 😆)
I think it's great, and can't wait to buy one, but it's time to start making them street legal in all 50 states. For the price these machines cost, I feel like it being street legal is a small request.
That would be awesome.
1000% agree. How motorcycles (and even 50cc scooters!) are street legal and this with a full roll cage isn’t still boggles my mind daily.
Got me a street legal, retitled RS1
@@drewwrobel564 not in Ohio
Sure street legal would be nice. Lights, horn, windshield & wipers, etc. wouldn't be a big deal. But I gotta wonder what the DOT would say about bumpers and crumple zones and that kinda stuff.
If Polaris was smart they'd offer the same package with a manual transmission.
That'd be wild.
Can't beat a good working CVT system though, IMO. And lighter weight too.That's why snowsleds use em. Sleds wouldn't but worth a hoot with a manual transmission and they'd always have a fried clutch from slipping it all the time. Kinda like the motocross racers, they go thru a lot of clutches too I believe.
DCT, but hey what does Honda know anyway.
@@jeremymyers5643 dual clutch on a bike? Naw you must mean a car. motocross bikes are an entirely different animal of course
@@oneninerniner3427 offer the dct on the Polaris, and while not a motorcross bike, the Honda Africa twin , street/trail motorcycle is where the dct in the talon/pioneer derived from
So can it handle boost with stock internals ?
I guess tread lightly has been thrown out the window
That was thrown out the window in the 70s when the first guy tossed a SBC in a Jeep lol
Can I turbo it still and will there be a bolt on turbo available
Is there room to add a turbo?
In my book now this is classified as a regular dune buggy from the 70s
0-60 times or 1/4 mile speed and time?
Okay but when turbo??
I thought sxs were limited to 1000cc / 1L ??
Isn't the motor in the Slingshot a GM 2.0 Ecotec ?
I'm surprised no one is saying that or even knows what it's based on.
The original sling shot was powered by Gm these are polaris built and engineered engines.
So it's a shrunk Ford Raptor, with a dune buggy body, and a oil barren price tag!!
Pretty much summed it up.
It damn well better last longer than 10,000 miles, I have almost 15,000 miles on my 17 general and a majority of it is at high rpm and 50 to 60 mph speeds and I’ve never had to open up the motor. Just religious maintenance routine
There goes the neighborhood ....😎
Amazing that much design and horse power from that motor. Think about back in 1990 most cars didn't have that horse power. Especially that power to weight.
My 2.0 Mitsubishi Eclipse required a turbo to make that much power.
And that still was only 190 horses. I had one to. 135hp normally aspirated.
A manual boost controller with a boost gauge and I was slayin my buddies Camaro and the other ones mustang! The added hp combined with all wheel drive and I was unbeatable…. For a little while! And to your point, 90 hp less on the naturally aspirated eclipse!
Power to weight that s×s has nothing in my 230 hp 480 lb mountain snowmobile lol.
30 years ago you mean? 30 years before that was 1960 and cars where a fair difference then!
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏.
Thank you for sharing
Our pleasure!
I need this engine for my Jeep..
🔥💯
They still using belts?
For the price and the size of it just buy a jeep and have air conditioning lol
Can't wait to buy mine. I'll have the cash in 9 weeks hopefully i don't need to wait long Orr buy one pre owned with very little time on it
I thought the industry self regulated and had a 1000cc limit. I guess this 2.0 will be the next step in the hp war. Too rich for my blood. I will stick with my 900S.
I heard that 1000cc or less made it so no emissions or safety features and that made them road worthy in some states. I heard that was why manufacturers didn't go over 1000cc.
@@justincoats7236 I'm not sure about the specifics, but I read somewhere that over 1000 put it into a category of government regulation that they didn't want to deal with. Definitely could be the emissions regs.
They made the Ecotec pretty fancy I guess.
Adding power to a already industry leading dumpster fire transmission. Should be good lol
The pro r has a totally different transmission. The engine is the fail. Oil starvation if you are a drifting type
Do a cyclone and let’s see how it oils?
a manual tranny like Yamaha would be awesome in the RZR...
37k to start, thanks but no thanks, not saying it's a nice machine. for 37k i would not want to put it in the woods
1st thing I saw was a very long valve chain......not conducive to longevity!
Put a variant of that motor in a new Indian 4 motorcycle.
Too big for my area, 1000cc and less than 2000lbs. Plus it cost more than my new chevy trailboss. I'd love to drive one but for me high boost 1L is the ticket
Soooo the elephant in the room.....how much is this thing gonna cost?
50,000
Should of tested an ultimate
Tested what we got.
225 BHP through a belt? A engine that appears to be initially designed to go in a road vechile put in a off road vechile and had to modified to work properly, a 4 cylinder heavy power plant when surley a 2 cylinder with a turbo could develop the same power with less weight? And probably a price tag that's eye watering? O yer, sounds a fair bit of kit! 😂😂😂
This commercial was brought to you by Polaris.
Unfortunately our economy is based on lending
That’s why it crashes when they raise the interest rates
And everybody who’s making payments on something is responsible
We did it to ourselves
We just needed a little encouragement from the feds
ill stick with my base x3 flash it to 205hp and save $30000
More power...really? How about a new model that's reliable, affordable, available, and tons of spare parts.
At this point just buy a keep it will be cheaper anyway
It seems like a great set up, but the comment about most sxs won’t see 10,000 miles tells me this guys not a utv guy. I know a good bit of Yamaha owners past that mileage. And I’m sure they are others .
There are plenty that are past that mileage. But they are rare when you consider the whole of the population.
Yeah, we must not know what we're talking about 🤷♂️
Most atv's and sxs in my area never see that many either. See the odd one once in a while but its rare
jesus. I'm at 3400 miles on a 2022 Suzuki KG. Your saying 10 000 miles is a lifetime. Well I've burned out 5 atv's then since 2007. Driven 120 000 miles. Wait till we're back in the 1980's. When insurance corporations pressured Atv manufactures to come up with a max speed. Limiting the gearing. Doing away with the All out fun factor. In Canada. We're lucky. But other then fire roads. (preying you don't meet someone else coming at you doing the same thing.). It's unpractical. Esp on Seasonal Snowmobile, atv trails that are narrow and single lane. Unless our governments start allowing these on the paved roads. Whats the point of buying a machine your limited in use. I'll buy a jeep or 4runner and it'll do all that and more.
1:18 where it goes to tip over ! These things are WAY too tippy and top heavy, The wheels are WAY to close together. Waste of $40 grand !
Looks like they couldn't have made it look any more top heavy. Awful.
And still running on a rubber band 👎 and the engine can seize there was one on RUclips with only 200 miles
Don’t do donuts with them
Or big jumps
I think they should contact yamaha and show them on how to build real performance engine.... ex: offroad calls for a drysump system , go all out 4 throttle bodies for performance vs 1 big one? , isnt a Yamaha apex motor 20 000+milles for a valve adjustment?....really 10 000 lol..... look at YXZ 3 bodies , dry sump and im sure valves are due way over 10 000.....common polaris??.....
@@stopbeinglazy8343 really?? .... i run a grizzly 700 its bulletproof but not a rocket!
yamaha should put the 200hp sidewinder engine in the yxz
This is just getting ridiculous
Durable hahaha hahaha you should hear your self
Just LS swap it.
Still a cvt snowmobile clutches in this pricy buggy..
More money than brains....or maybe more pen ink than brains.
Absolutely garbage
the canoooks are annoying to listen to.
Right back atcha big guy.
@@dirttraxtv You must have missed my other comment there genius.
Polaris has always been junk from day 1.
Ive drag raced for 30 years.. Everyone knows you need traction to go faster not just power... 900 hp on the street will get smoked by a 600,, hp... So how much power do you need in SAND????