How Did Adamantium Poison Wolverine?
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It was his drinking. Which had an ingredient that kills off mutants
Trick therory They explained in logan that they were putting something in the food & drinks to eradicate the mutant gene thats why wolverine was dying as his healing ability was no longer working
I honestly don’t like the adamantium poisoning retcon.
Because there ISN'T a metal-poisoning retcon. It was a studio decision, nothing more. There are dozens of these kinds of videos on RUclips, but none of them really relate to what's actually happening. Jackman didn't want to play the character anymore, and since he's iconic as Wolverine, the only way to ease fans into it, was to claim he died, but how do you kill someone who's invincible? Adamantium poisoning, how else! Old Man Logan was a kind of What If run that did exactly what the movie did, killed the character, but the character still lives in the actual X-Men comics.
Wolverine metal claws look more like kitchen knives instead of boney claws covered in metal😂. And in som comics his claws look like literal razor blades
I've said that many times.. but I guess the metal just altered his bone claws to look like a ninja sword blade.🤷🏻
His claws actually do look somewhat blade like even in their natural state but they shouldn't be that smooth lol
Good point 😅
They should have just made his original bone claws look the same as when they were covered in metal since when he first appeared in the comics he already had metal claws. Whoever first wrote and designed Logan in his backstory before weapon x made the stupid mistake to change what his claws looked like with adamantium
I always thought they were triangular in shape and were covered kinda like how chocolate covers things 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾 I could just be hungry tho 😂😂😂
Came for wolverine, stayed for biology review.
and left with wariness for Corn Syrup
Honestly wolverines claws and metal skeleton should not poison him, they coated the adammantuim on to his bones but the healing factor fused it , Logan’s healing factor changed the metal into adamantuim beta , which has all the benefits of the metal but allow his bones to work since A Beta has organic properties now. In theory if some how he lost a limb he should be to grow it back , and also believe it be metal still. And if not metal at least bone . The writers just got lazy and need to give him a weakness
I've been arguing this exact thing. with my friends for years!!
Because Jackman's reluctance to play the character further.
@@ronsexton3891 lol i feel your pain
I thought it had something to do with how the food and beverage industry put mutant killing properties in foods.
It's also a factor why Logan's healing factor weakens. That plus the poisoning ultimately weakens Logan and kills him.
Yeah he mentions it towards the end
The sucrose in foods negate the x factor in mutants so his hilling powers stopped working to fight off the hevey mettle poisoning
you’re essentially right the poison was designed to completely shut down the X gene within carriers and kill the ones that have active X genes.
Which is why they restrained in the beginning of the movie from eating processed food. Because the active ingredient the poison was mixed with is in nearly everything that’s processed.
Numerous Marvel characters have adamantium implants, including several base humans. The comics have mentioned that the Adamantium used on Wolverine was medically inert, but there are several radioactive isotopes of that substance.
My theory is that his hyperactive immune response continually attacks the Adamantium, sheering off electrons and converting the metal bonded to his skeleton into a less stable form that produces ionizing radiation.
As for the Logan film, Wolverine drinks copious amounts of whiskey, which can have a mash bill (the starches that ferment to produce alcohol for distillation) can be more than 50% corn. This is apparently done to dull the pain.
It's all conjecture.
The writers and creators, not the fans, have full say about their creation. It's good to have theories, it shows that you have a logical thought process, but remember, the Fox movies have nothing to do with the MCU.
@@kiillabytez At least until Deadpool & Wolverine bulldoze into the MCU in July. As for conjecture, it’s a mechanism to suspend disbelief. Asking the fans to accept that a single gene can express in such a dramatic fashion, granting various anomalous abilities that are unique to every individual without some form of mental gymnastics is a bit much. There’s only so much you can ignore.🤷♂️
Wolverine was weakened in the Logan film because of the transigen virus, which targets mutants and was added into the food supply. The only reason he's still alive in the film and all the other x-men/mutants are dead is because of his healing factor. The reason his clone and Laura are healthy is because they were raised in a lab with access to clean food.
@@mattshort4001 Multiverse. Days of Future's Past
@@mattshort4001 Phalanx Covenant
It was also becouse in Logan humans started adding something that was killing mutants and this slow down his healing factor
It was the corn syrup. And it’s also in beer or soda which Wolverine drinks quite often.
Imagine if Logan lived another year and the condition of his ligaments then. He would be a mess.
More like 300lbs the metal makes him weigh round 500lbs
My gosh that's ALOT! I would fear swimming if I had that!
Adamantium poisoning doesn't make sense brother if the metal is indestructible it doesn't break or corrode its just a studio decision to kill of the character, in the comics this isn't a thing they try to kill him by encasing him in adamantium and he broke out
if adamantium is suppose to be unbreakable then how can it corrode ? but adamantium is supposedly lower tier if compared to vibranium.
The science of Adamantium has nothing to do with them poisoning Wolverine.
The actor is simply getting too old to play Wolverine so they had to come up with some strange storyline where he suddenly started aging at the same rate as normal humans.
One of the dumbest ways they have destroyed a character.
Like I've always said, politics. Old Man Logan was a What If story line.
In all other X-titles, Wolverine is still alive and shredding foes to this day. The OML story was so popular, Fox decided to make a movie about it. Now that Wolverine is part of the X-Men, and X-Men is part of the MCU, (and Disney) the movie Deadpool and Wolverine exists. Therefore, the OML story is NOT canon.
6:31 Maybe I'm looking into it too much. But white blood cells are provided by bone marrow. Which is also what the body needs to heal wounds. If his bones are coated completely in metal, his bone marrow cannot release white blood cells into the body. So what's up with that?
Should have just coat the claws with adamantium instead of the whole skeleton like x23
good vídeo, and thanks
The reason is simple, wolverine is just as durable as a regular man with the exception of his metal skeleton, but has a healing factor, so if you put something in his body that's very toxic, the healing factor wont cancel it out but could only delay the effects. Or in some cases, it can't stop the poison at all. I didnt watch this video, but thats the answer.
If an adamantium bullet is shot at him and removed than he wouldn't get poisoned, but if left in it would.
I wonder if Logan’s claws and bone density would’ve come close to being as strong as adamantium after constant breaking and healing making th heal back stronger and stronger and evolving similar to doing weights tearing our muscles causing to heal and become stronger and denser
I heard a theory once that the reason Logan was dying was because his healing factor is affected by his will to live. The stronger his willpower and desire to keep living, the stronger he heals, hence why the earlier films he was invincible but by Logan he is barely breathing. I mean, it kinda makes sense when you think about it.
Possible spoiler warning for those that haven’t watched Logan (which I doubt are many since it came out nearly a decade ago but still, just in case):
Throughout the whole film, he’s incredibly depressed and has become an alcoholic. All his friends and family are dead or dying, and soon he’ll be all alone. He even admits that he has an adamantium bullet for when he’s had enough (if you catch my drift). I think it’s possible that a combination of this, the adamantium poisoning, and the corn syrup theory could be why his healing factor is severely stunted.
Even when he gains some hope by saving Laura and the other young mutants (thus maybe increasing his will to live) the damage is done and his healing factor simply can’t keep up, thus why he dies at the end.
That’s just my theory on it though. I haven’t really fully seen the movie, just bits and pieces at different times that eventually add up to most if not the full film, so it’s possible I missed something or misinterpreted something.
The theory is wrong. It was political. Nothing more.
Bullseye also gets Adamantium on his bones after the method of bonding was perfected with no side-effects whch i imagine cant be too hard considering it already doesnt release any excess metals into the body
Bullseye also doesn’t cut through his skin with claws all the time
He wasn't poisoned by adamantium before Days of Future Past. Stryker got Wolverine too early when the movie ended. Stryker hadn't put enough scientific perfecting of the metal at that point in time.
I dislike this topic, there's multiple examples of other characters with adamantium implants and base healing never getting sick like this.
Bullseye, hammerhead, cyber, sabertooth, lady deathstrike, donald pierce, tigershark, Romulus, Lara, deathlock, and daken are all participants without sickness.
The odd thing is i wonder how sabretooth can even damage wolverines skeleton
Could you do a video on that
I'll put that on the list! Thank you for the idea!
@@tricktheorists hope you didn't forget
It was stupid to call it adamantium poisoning. My guess it was more about bone marrow. If all his bones are completely covered in adamantium, theres no way for anything to flow in or out of his bones. His regeneration was able to handle its absance as his mutation regenerates from the cells in general. Once he started drinking and eating food made in the us that was laced with mutant suppressing chemicals, the lack of bone marrow and the cells they generated heavily started to affect him.
The adamantium itself is not the cause as it doesn't degrade nor can his mutant regeneration brake it down. So its more like adamantium blockage poisoning. Again, my guess.
Adamantium did not poison Wolverine. The reason he was weakened in the logan film and the rest of the x-men/mutants are all dead is because of the transigen virus, which was added to the food supply. The only reason wolverine is still alive is because of his healing factor. The reason his clone and Laura were not affected is because they were raised in a lab with clean food.
Learning about Wolverine led me to ponder what it would take for a person to be born with his type of immune system metabolism healing capabilities. Fortunately the most highly evolved aspects of femininity and masculinity life death souls spirit Mother Earth nature and wildlife have provided answers in the way of those proclaiming power personified over all such.
WTF are you talking about?
According to the movie he has been facing the poison from the start but due to corn that almost a lot of people eat effects the mutant gene hence weakening his mutant/healing power because of his drinking habit hence making his healing slower and that’s how spoiler:
He dies
I'm gonna resound with a deafening, NO!
No. This is just how they write the story. They write it however they want. Many of the story's Marvel write are utter, Bull-shit! Give Logan his metal and, leave him alone. Period.
Why did they infuse his whole skeleton? Why not only the claws?
I wonder how Wolverine's body would react to vibranium if that were the metal used to cover his skeleton.
he take less blunt force
@orlandobritt1460 the vibrations when struck being so close to vital organs would produce mental issues like a seizure in most, or heart attacks for others as the vibrations released when vibranium is hit, are immense. The Shockwave are part of attacks later on in films. This wouldn't work for this simple reason that most lifeforms would have multiple system failures from the vibranium working as intended/predicted. They'd be strong as possible otherwise however weakened in general from the afflictions it causes.
Hugh Jackman aka Wolverine
Powers/Abilities:
○ Wolverine Physiology
• Bone Claws
• Decelerated Aging
• Enhanced Physique
• Enhanced Senses
• Feral Mind
• Regenerative Healing Factor
Experimentations:
○ Adamantium Implant
Weaknesses:
○ Adamantium
You're wrong about at least two items: Wolverine physiology and feral mind.
He's still human in form and function.
Feral mind? He's more human than most people. A feral mind would make him more like Green Hulk, totally running on animalistic instinct alone. His Berserker Rage is a totally different thing entirely.
@@kiillabytez True. But haven't you seen how he's acting like an animal? Xavier even called him "you were an animal" in Logan.
@@davekisman2763 Logan wasn't canon and you know it.
I ot only reject this movie but hated it.
Probably cause the comic was so good.
The writing ✍️ killed Wolverine 😂
Plot armor ... There is your answer 😏
Profoundly disappointed at the writers WEAK choice to choose something as absurd as adamantium poison - as a pathetic character development.
I wonder what would have happened if near the end of "Logan" the Adamantium was taken from Logan's body. If that doctor really had a way to free him of it, would his body go into overdrive one last time and burn out, or would he start to heal and age backward a bit?
In a comic, Magneto forced all the Adamantium out of Logan's body, the process was so painful that the healing factor was overworked and after it healed him from that incident, it stopped working completely. And that was Magneto, an Omega level mutant. I don't believe a normal doctor can achieve such a thing without giving Logan a major disability afterwards.
@PLYTATN I mean, hey, human doctors put it in him. That moment with the doctor just seemed wasted in the movie. It had no resolution. I'm aware of him getting his adamantium ripped from him in the comic. Can't wait to see feral bone claws on xmen 97. My thoughts were more so about what would this doctor thought he could accomplish.
@@immortalfallen That doctor can give him more of that green medicine at best, not taking the metal out of Wolverine.
Besides, you don't understand Adamantium. The human doctor that put it in him simply was using the liquid form of the metal he got from the ore. But once the metal got injected into Logan and cooled down, it is practically indestructible, i don't see anyway that you can get that much metal out of him without hurting him, given how worse his healing factor got in the movie i don't think he can even survive the procedure. Just because a human doctor put it in him doesn't mean a human doctor can take it out.
@PLYTATN so in the comic book movie, you think it's impossible for the doctor to have some way of removing it? Also, I've been reading comics for 30 years. I understand Wolverine and his adamantium. Not rocket science.
@@immortalfallen if you have been reading comics for 30 years, you would already know by now that it is impossible for a normal human being to just "remove" Adamantium. It is one of the strongest metal, alongside Vibranium.
Geez weapon x didn't know what they were doing they just acted on the first thought they had he was more dangerous without it but instead gave him a bunch of weaknesses
Logan's healing factor heals almost instantaneously. He has survived complete cellular deconstruction and reformed completely, only scarring his mental state.
The only reason they wrote the character the way they currently have is because Jackman had no desire to play the character anymore. So, the REAL reason is because of studio politics.
NOW, since Disney has the rights to the character, we now have a fully regenerating Wolverine.
See? Politics, not wild, metal-poisoning theories.
Its simple they were putting chemicals in food to try and cure mutants making all mutants weaker thats why his healing factor was so shit in that movie
So when he lost his healing factor in The Wolverine, he shouldn‘t have been able to use his Claws
He likely still could use them without the healing, but the claws cut through his skin just to extend, so he would have bad bleeding out if the healing was reduced.
@@KaosNova2 Yes thats what I meant. But It‘s a superhero Movie so I accept that😂
i don't think marvel or anyone else considers this canon.
Only reason the theory exists is because of OML, a one-off story line.
It sucks to be wolverine literally he should of found a way to get the metal out
I Love Wolverine, Sounds like a realistic power I could deal with. Just Mix in some magic 🪄 & BAM 💥, Wolverine is immortal. You’re welcomed.
He always was immortal. No magic involved, just science.
@@kiillabytezReal life science is that the more cell divisions a cell has undergone, the less effective it gets at replicating. So basically if you had superfast healing like Wolverine, in real life it would cause you to age really fast as well.
@@KaosNova2 I guess that's why Logan looks like he's 500 years old then?
He was poisoned by the food that made mutants extinct.
And the metal too, his healing factor is keeping the poison at bay
No, he was poisoned by bad writing.
I would like to have it.
That director James mangold was ruined Wolverine movies!!
OK, I’ve pointed this out a couple of different times and the old man Logan movie he was not poisoned by Adam Antum they talk about it in the movies the stuff that they’re putting in the corn the stuff that they’re adding to food and how they were eliminating mutants, but nobody seem to notice that nobody seem to think that they were intentionally implying that the big agriculture was mitigating the mutant response within the population. It was obviously a political boy talking about something that was pretty obvious that’s going on in this country today
His healing degraded, then the Adamantium inhibited it the rest of the way. Put in mind Adamantium would constrict the rest of your body healing because it would constrict marrow in your bones, and the marrow allows for the replenishment of your other bodily cells due to the bone marrow being pluripotent. Your blood, skin, organs, etc, need bone marrow to heal. Wolverine would have a major advantage but with his regeneration brought down, he would start having his own body reduced because he wouldn’t have as much bone marrow getting out of the bones
now thats just lazy writing
It’s toxic. Just saved you 9 minutes and 39 seconds