EZ Locker NO WELDER NEEDED!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2014
  • here i show yo uhow to esaly lock a peerless mst trans-axle.
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  • @restore56
    @restore56  6 лет назад +5

    Maybe in a year or so when I get back into some sort of workshop, and another project i will remake this video, with better editing, speaking, and just make a more professional and understandable video. thanks to everyone for the comments, criticism and support! a Lot of things younger me didnt take into account or consideration and now as i learn more i see how bad of a video this is and i hope to fix it the first chance i get.

  • @keepinitofftheroad6316
    @keepinitofftheroad6316 3 года назад +3

    "So u grab a big ass screw driver"😂

  • @res7itzt
    @res7itzt 7 лет назад +8

    While I applaud your tenacity and gave a thumbs up for effort, I must confess, watching this made me so glad I have a good welding machine :)

    • @MrSmoker2003
      @MrSmoker2003 7 лет назад

      amen

    • @kevinlee9751
      @kevinlee9751 3 года назад

      Nothing like the Right Tools.
      I just put a Yamaha ATV rear end under my John Deere and switched to a 700 Peerless right angle 5 speed transmission. Now I have rear suspension and excellent breaks.
      True I had to build a Subframe to mount the Yamaha But I don't have to worry about the rear end. The only weak point now Is the 700 transmission.

  • @lincolnthemadmachanic1590
    @lincolnthemadmachanic1590 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for showing this, I'm not the best welder and don't want to mess up the transaxle. PS I never thought of using a nother spider gear.

  • @mattcasdorph
    @mattcasdorph 6 лет назад +9

    Awesome, just went online and bought a spare gear for my transaxle for $12 that should lock mine, I had to order new oil seals anyway, figured I'd lock it while I had it apart. Nice option for people like myself without a welder.

  • @bleepers3
    @bleepers3 Год назад +2

    Brother you were pretty professional here....I would have smashed it off the table the 3rd or 4th time it wouldn't work lol good job, keep up learning and building

  • @strattuner
    @strattuner 3 года назад +1

    you have exactly what makes a master mechanic,PATIENCE,all good things come to those that wait,good job,never wanted to weld inside of a gear assembly,take a bow

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si 2 года назад

      I will though but mines a bit newer than that one and I'll clamp it to hold things together then start welding away and block other stuff with pieces of wood so weld splatters don't hit but first before welding anything take off all the rubber seals on the axles

    • @strattuner
      @strattuner 2 года назад

      @@Mike-su8si excellent,the spatters is what knocks out bearings and bushings and especially seals

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si 2 года назад

      @@strattuner I know

  • @morgansword
    @morgansword 5 лет назад +3

    That is a great idea. I always welded the spiders to the ends of the shaft but if you don't have a welder handy or whatever, I think this idea of yours is better... good video

    • @restore56
      @restore56  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks! i cant take all the credit, i know doc sprocket did it with a peerless 920, but with some persistence, you can lock it with the heavier duty gears. i do plan to remake this video with clearer instructions and better views. and less breathing hahahah

  • @savoielvis1
    @savoielvis1 Год назад

    Hi !!! i hade to stop in a midle of the video to write a comm.....My fully respect for you kid......just because you hade hard time to put the pieces together , you didn t cut the video....yu let us see.....thank you verry much for that!!!

  • @broughlands3999
    @broughlands3999 3 года назад +1

    Good job fella....I watched this just done mine ....

  • @stewartcaldwell5299
    @stewartcaldwell5299 5 лет назад

    You can swear if you want to. I don't mind. Thanx ! Oh, and I love it. Very realistic. Problems and all.

  • @Mr_Tecumseh
    @Mr_Tecumseh 7 лет назад +3

    Long term do those spider gears start wearing from having a 3rd or 4th wedged in to stop the others. There is still a little play every time you go from forward to reverse so I am wondering how those spiders hold up from the constant jerking back and fourth from being wedged to stop them vs. welding them. Have you re-checked one you did like that after a lot of use to see how they were holding up?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  7 лет назад +4

      they have not worn out yet, still installed on the tractor with about the same amount of play, i have not opend one, but the back-forth jerking would not be any more stress than normal, because there is still play when the diff is open, the extra stress would be from turning on pavement or rock crawling, where the gears are binding as intended, so i feel, with a lot of abuse on my off roader, and two others i have done this to, this is a long term solution and will hold up to anything a welded diff would take, and i might dare say possibly stronger.

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si 2 года назад

      Here's my transaxle transmission hydro gear 150071 319-0650 that's the one I might weld up and I have 2 others and a 5 speed. take the axles out clean it off then weld it up clean it off again and reinstall back in the oil case and see if it makes it slower

  • @dakotacallahan5175
    @dakotacallahan5175 4 года назад +3

    Good job kid nice work, a little more prep and some editing ur on ur way to be something great keep it up brahhzzzz

  • @curtisbrowning4682
    @curtisbrowning4682 4 года назад

    Good video.. Thanks for sharing

  • @droptheblades895
    @droptheblades895 3 года назад +1

    lol, I just welded my dif the "traditional way", it broke in like 2 minutes. (probably because I was using a stick welder with rods that were for mild steel. so I just welded all the spider gears together and it seems to be holding up. good idea with the added spider gear.

    • @droptheblades895
      @droptheblades895 3 года назад

      restore56, you can delete this comment if you want; I have a video coming out soon on it. and some serious testing. incomplete video sneak peek!: ruclips.net/video/tDu44sSTO-s/видео.html

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si 2 года назад

      How long did the welding stick together and what's the point of locking it up once i know why people do it I'll understand better will I mow the yard faster or what

    • @botskifani22
      @botskifani22 Год назад

      @@Mike-su8si it will make your rear wheels spin at the same speed all the time so it wont give more torque to your outer wheel when making a turn and ut wont tear your grass up

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si Год назад

      @@botskifani22 alright thanks for telling me.

  • @restore56
    @restore56  8 лет назад +1

    lol. it's funny when every one says "its not possible". ive never been able to fit two though.... thanks for the comment!

  • @danielkeirsteadsr6939
    @danielkeirsteadsr6939 5 лет назад +2

    Just takes a little practice but is a great way to do it

  • @restore56
    @restore56  8 лет назад +1

    To find an extra spider gear, you can sometimes find some online, but best way is to get a spare transmission. try craigslist. make sure you get the same tooth count you need

    • @JodBronson
      @JodBronson 6 лет назад

      Easier with Ebay :), but People can always find alternatives!

  • @garyblevins3532
    @garyblevins3532 6 лет назад

    I've been in a few transaxles myself and it's not always easy.

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      no its not easy at all with the i think it was 13 tooth spider gears. might be mistaken, but if you have the i think 16 tooth gears its alot eaiser! haha

  • @hoareplussy
    @hoareplussy 6 лет назад

    That (little washer) you left out was the thrust washer which takes the end thrust and stops the spider gear from wearing the casing away you goose !!!!!

  • @damienwolff1752
    @damienwolff1752 8 лет назад

    finaly, thought i was the only one, any ways i have stuck 2 in the first time i tried the extra spiders 2 years ago, it is a puzzle, it still works, i had to shave the sides down on the last one, kept pushing my axles out

  • @318871rs
    @318871rs 6 лет назад +12

    All the heavy breathing makes me nervous. Lol

  • @mattcasdorph
    @mattcasdorph 6 лет назад +1

    I locked it using this method, but have a shitty time trying to turn, it wants to push forward regardless if the front tires are turned, makes it a pain in the ass when trying to cut the grass with it. Does yours have any problem steering after locking the diff? I thought about making some wheel weights out of cement and seeing if extra weight would help but IDK, I may just disassemble it and remove the gear.

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад +2

      Matt Casdorph this is a side-effect of a solid locked diff. For off roaders it's not as noticable, I would not recommend for a cutting machine unless your using it for more traction demanding situations, but to help reduce it pushing, add weight to the front or reduce weight in the rear. U want the fronts to have more traction or the rears to have less so they can force one of the rear wheels to skid a little.

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      this is a side-effect of a solid locked diff. when done to off-roaders, its not as cumbersome, especially with a heavier engine up front, i would not normally recommend a locked diff for a grass cutter unless your using it for some pretty demanding tasks, but if you want to keep it locked, add weight to the front, or remove weight from the back. you want the rear wheels to be able to skid a little when turning. good luck.

    • @stevelecain886
      @stevelecain886 6 лет назад +1

      everytime you lock a transaxle or rear diff in anything they want to plow because you no longer have a differential.

    • @JodBronson
      @JodBronson 6 лет назад +1

      +Matt Casdorph - DO NOT LOCK IT, if you are still using to do Garden things... Like Mowing, etc.... You only LOCK THIS for " Off Road " or " Riding Only ".

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si 2 года назад

      Good to read this old ass comment now I know not to fuck up my transmission that's good
      So then I'll just buy the parts I'm needing and gasket maker put it all back together and skip fucking mine up like that cause i don't go off roading anyhow i mow my grass and other people's grass
      So I'm glad to have read your old comment i was about to weld mine up but I'm not going to now

  • @croweknowsmowers1877
    @croweknowsmowers1877 3 года назад +1

    I know this is an old video but, why is it called EZ LOCK? didn't look very Ez to me!

    • @restore56
      @restore56  3 года назад +2

      Mainly the idea that you don't need specialty tools or major skills to do it. Mind you also this was long time ago and welders were a little less cheap and easy to get.
      Just gotta fiddle with it for a bit haha

  • @doubleagent6951
    @doubleagent6951 5 лет назад +1

    RIP Murray transaxle

  • @Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt
    @Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt Год назад

    Need suggestions for adding an extra ground to my grandpas 93 Sears Craftsman 18hp opposed twin. It’s a speed…not sure if it has a parasitic draw occurring or if the battery is draining faster due to starter age? The battery that manual called for was 230cca which I have sense replaced with a 275cca…should I return and get 300cca? Appreciate any feedback…and Thank you for the informative content. Your videos and workmanship has really evolved.

    • @restore56
      @restore56  Год назад

      So it cranks ok when battery is charged, but battery died quickly, does it die after one or two starts or after several? Am I understanding the main issue correctly?

    • @Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt
      @Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt Год назад

      @@restore56 Trying to determine what would cause the battery to not charge correctly while on the mower? Before the motor fire up (not instantly but a few seconds of turning the key). About six months ago I began noticing that while trying to start the motor I felt the negative cable grounding bolt located on the frame was really warm (left side next to battery). Also appeared that the battery would need to be charged more frequently in order to get the motor fire up. As of late the motor will only spin but not actually fire up. Had the battery tested and it was dead…it was only two years old (Walmart 230 CCA). I read reviews stating their lawn tractor batteries have a short life span although I remember other lawn tractor batteries lasting longer ….so I bought another battery that is 275 CCA but have not yet installed it as I want to make sure I have wiring/ground concerns taken care of. I’m not entirely sure if the battery draining was caused by starter beginning wear out, ground issue or if the battery cca were not high enough thus straining the battery etc….apologies for be long winded response. Open to suggestions for adding an extra ground strap (size gauge, where to mount it etc) also any areas to inspect….Thanks again

  • @stevesyncox9893
    @stevesyncox9893 4 года назад +1

    windshield wash antifreeze in the back tires for plow traction/

  • @262_nate
    @262_nate 6 лет назад +1

    i like your channel make more vidieos

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      Thanks, i want to, but at the current time life has gotten in the way but i plan to return sometime.

  • @misterminer7748
    @misterminer7748 4 года назад +2

    you kids and your trans axles...

    • @JWyuh
      @JWyuh 2 месяца назад

      What can I say? Mud mowers are badass machines 😂

  • @johnsiren5951
    @johnsiren5951 5 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing but it looks hard

    • @restore56
      @restore56  5 лет назад +1

      It's not as much difficult as it is just being patient with it, Id say it's a pretty good option for those who don't have access to a welder

  • @mtdracer69
    @mtdracer69 3 года назад

    Has it ever broke on ya yet? Just curious because I want to rin this set up at 25mph

    • @restore56
      @restore56  3 года назад +2

      Nope! Still trucking. I run about 12 mph top, but it's holding up good. I've since put 23in stryker atv tires on, and those have been sweet, and no complaints from axle

    • @mtdracer69
      @mtdracer69 3 года назад

      @@restore56 awesome! Thanks for the video and response!

  • @dhm3115
    @dhm3115 5 лет назад +1

    You removed the thrust washer? Not good....wear...wear...wear...BOOM!!!

  • @nicholascayton
    @nicholascayton 7 лет назад

    What happens if you use a different size/ different spider gear?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  7 лет назад +1

      they will not fit, you will not be able to line them up so they can sit properly.

    • @mattcasdorph
      @mattcasdorph 6 лет назад

      just look up your model and buy a spare off ebay, 12 bucks for a spare gear (same gear part number as the other spider gears on the diagram will guarantee the right fit), still cheaper than some would charge to weld it.

  • @streetaddiction7315
    @streetaddiction7315 8 лет назад +2

    Where can I get a spider gear?

    • @felixparvais970
      @felixparvais970 3 года назад

      Best bet is too take get a different transaxle form another lawn mower and take the spider gears out of it that’s what I would do

  • @danielshank4622
    @danielshank4622 2 года назад +1

    NOT---SO EZ locker.... Lol 😂😆

  • @MikeJones-rk1un
    @MikeJones-rk1un 7 лет назад

    Screw driver for prybars.... How about cleaning your part before opening it to the elements?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  7 лет назад +5

      Mike M I actually had cleaned it the best I could with what I had. this transmission is still working its ass of in my tractor with no problems at all.

    • @Mr_Tecumseh
      @Mr_Tecumseh 7 лет назад +5

      Those are split open with flathead screwdrivers all of the time. There is no gasket in between just old RTV a screwdriver will not hurt it and gets the job done. Its also why the have a notch in the back to pry it apart gently with a flat screwdriver, pry bar what have you. You can sit their with a hammer all day it may not open with out a little pry action, its done very gently and they pop fast and easy. He's fine.

  • @dbrecreation6836
    @dbrecreation6836 7 лет назад +1

    Where can you find an extra spider gear?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  7 лет назад

      you can sometimes find some online, but best way is to get a spare transmission. try craigslist. make sure you get the same tooth count you need

  • @billcarter1199
    @billcarter1199 6 лет назад

    Welding would have worked what happens if the extra spider gear works loose could rip the whole Trans apart

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад +1

      it wont, once properly assembled, it is locked in place, i still have this installed in my murray and its still as solid as when i first installed it, but the problem is yes, welding would work, but with everything, IF done Properly, with a quality welder, and good skill. with lack of either, one resorts to other means. my first tranny i welded with a 120 harbor freight welder, (all we could afford) and my VERY limited skill and prep work. that weld later broke, and by then my skills or welder did not get much better, so i looked into other means.

  • @clintmcnair6962
    @clintmcnair6962 6 лет назад +7

    90 $ welder from hf cause this may say ez but its not even ez to watch

  • @danielshank4622
    @danielshank4622 2 года назад

    Definitely should change the title.....lol

  • @boblazarrss
    @boblazarrss 2 года назад

    Yah but how will that off balance weight do at about 115 mph?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  2 года назад

      Probably not to well at all. It might just uninstall itself in about 13.762 seconds flat. I'll let ya know once I get wound up that high!

    • @boblazarrss
      @boblazarrss 2 года назад

      @@restore56 ;) thanks for the vid it was very helpful

  • @craftsmancrusher207
    @craftsmancrusher207 3 года назад

    Can you explain a little more on why you dont use 2 to jam it

    • @restore56
      @restore56  3 года назад +1

      Due to the heavy duty version of the pearles used spider gears that have an odd number of teeth, and that makes it almost impossible to fit two extra in. If you use the even number spider gears, you can fit two

    • @craftsmancrusher207
      @craftsmancrusher207 3 года назад

      @@restore56 is it better to do one or the other

    • @iwin1833
      @iwin1833 3 года назад +2

      Just keeping it real I like that. You didn't sugar coat the video and make it look all easy breezy .👍👍

  • @erikmckaygunsmithing6470
    @erikmckaygunsmithing6470 Год назад

    Sold me on welding it up. Much easier

  • @hillbillyatvs1064
    @hillbillyatvs1064 7 лет назад

    Did this work and how long did it last .

    • @restore56
      @restore56  7 лет назад

      yes, in this vid. it was the second trans axle i had done it to and booth are still runin strong.

    • @hillbillyatvs1064
      @hillbillyatvs1064 7 лет назад

      Ok cool so u only put in one spider gear right not two . I love this idea I am not a big fan of welding the gears they just don't last it is a stupid material they make them out of

    • @ianbuilds7712
      @ianbuilds7712 7 лет назад +1

      u can weld them... I grind deep grooves into the gear where it meets the shaft and make sure fill those with weld... but in a lot of cases if u use the right spiders u can get two in there.. I think with this trans(mst) in order to get 2 in u actually need to grind the backs of the spiders round to match the contour of the inside of the bull gear.. but in my 930 the gear is square inside and 2 extra spider gears fit with no problems (granted u have the right parts)

    • @ianbuilds7712
      @ianbuilds7712 7 лет назад +1

      check out my vids if u interested... I just finished my newest atlt build its a craftsman body on murray frame with almost full suspension... I've never seen anyone do it the way I did and it's actually lighter than the Murray tractor I started with

  • @DavidJones-smiley
    @DavidJones-smiley 2 месяца назад

    It’s been 9 years what are you working on today?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  2 месяца назад +1

      I am a ASE Master tech, I have a Brick nose f150 and a 68 mercury cougar, and i still have this old tractor! broke this transmission a few times by now. all still built with this gear jam locker.

    • @DavidJones-smiley
      @DavidJones-smiley 2 месяца назад

      @@restore56 that’s great brother! Keep on keeping on 👍🇺🇸

  • @jedidiahjohnson6516
    @jedidiahjohnson6516 Год назад

    How did it hold up?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  Год назад

      Held up great! Ended up breaking the trans case. But the diff held and didn't cause the damage. I've since put some striker tires on it, and was pulling vines with the tractor. Ended up hitting hit a little to hard. I've rebuilt it with same axles and diff, with some bearings on the axle shafts this time.

    • @jedidiahjohnson6516
      @jedidiahjohnson6516 Год назад

      @@restore56 wow that’s really good I’m definitely doing this

  • @jameswieser483
    @jameswieser483 5 лет назад

    oMG!!,

  • @thatonespecialhead
    @thatonespecialhead 2 года назад

    We’re do you get a spider gear like that

    • @restore56
      @restore56  2 года назад

      Stole it from another transaxle. Note that there are two different sizes, I believe it is 16 tooth vs 13 tooth. The 13 is stronger, but difficult to line up properly.

    • @restore56
      @restore56  2 года назад

      Honestly, I'm in the case as of now, broke it with a little bit to hard of a clutch dump hahah. I could remake this video if I get up the motivation.

    • @thatonespecialhead
      @thatonespecialhead 2 года назад

      Ok thanks

  • @yeehawcletus1611
    @yeehawcletus1611 6 лет назад

    does it work

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      furious mudder yes it does or I would not have posted the video. Still in my mover today

  • @hunterstewart6509
    @hunterstewart6509 6 лет назад

    I tried locking mine like this and it blowed my rearend up

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад +1

      Hunter Stewart Sounds like the same thing the happen d to Joshua Luke, I explained what probably happened under his comment

    • @electricdeckhead3083
      @electricdeckhead3083 5 лет назад

      personally I would be trying to reduce the amount of moving breakable parts in the rear end rather than adding more. look into the doc locker set up if you want reliability.

  • @stevelecain886
    @stevelecain886 6 лет назад +1

    dude you need to go through these projects before you do videos, people will get frustrated watching you.it will take the stress off you and make it enjoyable, i got tired watching you battle this.you got promise for sure just do your homework. keep at it you will get it and you speak really plain and easy to understand and thats a good thing..cheers

  • @edmondpecotjr.8888
    @edmondpecotjr.8888 5 лет назад

    forgot the two bolts underneath ??? lol...

    • @restore56
      @restore56  5 лет назад +1

      Hahaha For the broken case? No I didn't forget those, while putting the top half on one of the bushings with the tab on it rotated and caused it to crack once it got in a mud hole hah

    • @edmondpecotjr.8888
      @edmondpecotjr.8888 5 лет назад

      @@restore56 aww no brah huh lol.. that bites...hahahhahahq.. ima do what you said man on my tractor isa beast... "widebody"... I kill rear ends... but your locker idea looks really cool... ima do that because I've tried almost everything else and I break cases in half like cutting a sandwich with a knife lol... thanks for such a classy video man...its really gonna help me out tomaro.. thanks again brah.. i subd earlier...

  • @joshualuke6537
    @joshualuke6537 6 лет назад +1

    I did this and I broke it in half

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      Joshua Luke the whole transaxle?

    • @joshualuke6537
      @joshualuke6537 6 лет назад

      restore56 basically did ya

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      Joshua Luke well I'm sorry but something either the bushings in the jack shafts or the spider gears were miss aligned causing abnormal stress leading to it hand-Grenading itself

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад +1

      New ones are about 150. There used to be new ones for that but the used market has many. You will want to match the last digit of the "MST-20x-xxxy" y will be a letter from A to E. There internals usually survive so you swap in your old internals with the new case.

    • @JodBronson
      @JodBronson 6 лет назад

      Basically, it MUST BE the SAME TOOTH COUNT !!!

  • @vaioskaliakoudas6388
    @vaioskaliakoudas6388 6 лет назад

    Would this mod work in an automotive diff?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  6 лет назад

      Vaios Kaliakoudas no. This is specifically for lawn tractor transaxels, automotive diffs are designed differently and will not work with such a metiod

    • @billcarter1199
      @billcarter1199 6 лет назад

      Don't try it you'll blow your rear end apart not a good idea man

    • @JodBronson
      @JodBronson 6 лет назад

      +Vaios Kaliakoudas - DO NOT DO THIS TO AUTOMOTIVE... CARS / TRUCKS !!!

  • @chevymanmacias4840
    @chevymanmacias4840 Год назад

    Easier just go weld it...

    • @restore56
      @restore56  Год назад +1

      consider at this time i was in middle school, and did not have the funds or skills for a welder. this was a solution i found online, and posted about how i accomplished it. its a compromise.

  • @jon020275
    @jon020275 3 года назад

    should of practiced a bit more before posting but yeah i'll stick with the welder..

    • @restore56
      @restore56  3 года назад +1

      Yeah man, i getcha. I was like 15 then, now i can weld good enuff to get the job done, i probably will weld my next one hahha

  • @chrisjask8814
    @chrisjask8814 Год назад

    Not looking too ez there maybe change the title of this

    • @restore56
      @restore56  Год назад

      Well, considering you don't need to fabricate or weld anything, the. Skill level is relatively low.

  • @scootergem
    @scootergem 5 лет назад

    where you stopped is where you should have started. you know you blew the video so after you figure it out toss the old vid and go again. don't put out something that you already know is bad. people see all the bloopers and, as the Japanese put it, you 'lose face'. good try, but next time don't show all the 'not for prime time' stuff, ok?

    • @restore56
      @restore56  5 лет назад

      i though this was okay when i posted it. i realize now its bad. i do not have the time resources or space to remake this video into something better

  • @owensrayfeilds6800
    @owensrayfeilds6800 Год назад

    you need yoga,,training....