During the art portion I was looking for him to answer: page dimensions, gutter space, final format book size... etc. I was a little disappointed because when you talk a lot your basic knowledge of your craft should be exceptional.
@SINVERSE137 it does matter when you want to sell your books. All the setting of book size and text bubbles are the most important so that your readers can actually you know.. Read your comic lol.
Everything is subjective, yet somehow he can tell others whats good or bad.... by what standard? His feels, cause they more important than whats real. Man thinks he's a disney princess, he's floating so high off the ground that he takes calls at work. Doesnt take his job seriously nor his own words, yet we're suppose to riffle through his ramblings to figure out what he means. Very soft behavior, which is why he concerns himself so much with what other people think. He's more interested in approval & head-pats than success. The type of person to burn themself out at 40, get bitter & blame others, but people just did what they were allowed to.
God this guy loves to yap, it's almost like the point of your videos flew over his head. Fundamentals? He can't even get color theory and composition down. No line weight or structure to his faces, nothings dynamic not even the action poses (3d model skill level type shi) the art style is default ( did you forget to add the human touch and creativity?). Is he playing a game of lets see how many words he can fit into a single speech bubble? Blurred asset bgs as opposed to hand drawn? lol. Wait a min is that Goku? He hasn't studied art for years and if he has I can't tell and this skill level is amateur since we're being honest in this channel. This isn't rage bait, Koffee has just been saying what alot of people been thinking for a long time. What really resonated was his talk about demoralization. Lets be honest yapperton, most of us wouldn't look twice at your work. Hell, I doubt you would read another story that had the same art as yours, your friend group shoulda been told you this wasn't it. The way this guy asks for a serious conversation but giggles and chuckles while on a mildly serious topic makes me think he's not right in the head. Also for your character being aware of a archetype and thinking its satire doesn't make it any less unoriginal. This is proof that even if you go into the real world and get experience it won't help you if you can't extrapolate from that reality, lol thanks for being a prime example. This man gassed up cuz he got chosen as the group leader. He bad for business.🤣
I think bro kinda contradicted himself from the beginning of the video he said “not manaa.. ya know manga not that either. Comic books” but later in the video he said his work is manga…. Lol this debate gotta get redone cause bro kept goin off topic after he was trying to state his points he was gettin a lil toooo excited 😭😭🤣🤣😭 but this was a good one Edit: imma definitely keep a look out and check out his stuff also to form my own opinions also
Fake it til you make it; blind uplifting; silent, or masked disagreement is what PEOPLE in the indie space utilize as to not upset the balance. There is no space for a budding creator to be "real" right out of the gate. That will get you axed by the zombies really quick. Play the game; play their game. Get it?
He has a animation short on his RUclips channel!!! I can tell he has been studying his angels anatomy and line work. To me it looks a lot cleaner than the comic work. At the end of the day that’s what it’s all about self improving and being better than yourself from yesterday. All in all I think bro should come back on the podcast tho but maybe have his points and objectives plus questions for koffee more organized so it will be less talking over each other because at the end of the day it’s just all a debate. The diggs to each other not what we need lol. I can tell bro was hyped up to talk to koffee I would be to because he is really one of the few giving opportunities to chat it up !!! I’ll say also art is subjective and not at the same time. Some people go by standards and have different criteria for them. I say both have unique art in their on personal style and it’s nothing wrong with that either.
It's as you were able to expose in the interview: Because this guy has created his own standards for his artwork, *of course* his work is better and it will always be better because he said so. I believe this belief comes in part from the idea that "art is subjective"....and because of that, who's there to say what makes art good or bad? -- despite there being objective standards and principles to creating art (some of which is clear he's aware of, but doesn't know yet how to apply) He reminds me of another video you have about a black artist who is unfortunately unaware that his skill level isn't at the standards of his inspirations (I think he said vinland saga was one of them) Anyways, really appreciate your videos and your mission and vision is a real inspiration - May the Lord continue to bless you with health, strength and conviction to put work out there that inspires people in the right direction
@@SINVERSE137 please re-read my comment. I wasn't talking about you being the one inspired by vinland saga. I can understand though how it could be misunderstood. As for everything else i said, what made it the dumbest comment? What is the standard for your comic and art that anyone could objectively say you're work is good, or at least better than Koffee?
Coffee, I'm not a fan of yours typically, but in this debate, I was behind you 100%. I don't know the other dudes name but he made himself look so bad and so ignorant. He came on your platform too, trying to lil bro and failing 😂Truly terrible hunchback
Your a better man than me koffee, I would’ve ended the call after 15 minutes….. But good on you on taking on more confrontational debates, looking forward to the next chapter of bloody hell
I only just find out about this fool cause of koffee, bro is just a random nobody like almost everybody in comments section( bro likes to switch topic when he can't give a proper answer). Bro really said you losing the conversation, like he really thinks he's winning in the 1st place.
@@JaustAFan-ir9qfI know you wasn't talking about yourself lol( just fooling around). My point in my comment was to say this guy thinks he's better than us, when in reality he's a nobody like me and everybody in the comment section( with bad art too).
From pages that I’ve seen, the how to draw comics the marvel way would have benefitted him cause the gesture and composition is making me angry as someone learning the fundamentals of art
This dude is talking a lot of mess with his Calarts goku wannabe, lol. It looks like he made this in MS paint. Koffee, real talk, these debates aren't fair. It sounds like you're arguing with someone's little brother. At this rate, you might be able to launch a comedy corner or comedy segment. You got me cracking up while I'm trying to draw and listen to this. Good shit, bro. 51:17 Is this dude calling this manga? No wonder american manga is looked down upon just by saying american manga. Man, this guy really exists....LMAO!
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 he made a updated post on Instagram about the future. I’m hoping everything is good on his end. But tbh it’s time to show more support.
Koffee is one of the few people to do a review video on Apple Black volume 4. He literally starts the video by saying Whyt's art is fantastic. He does give compliments where it's due. People seem to label him a hater because he critiques people and their work. But you critique something because you want it to be better.
Bro really thinks he's better, bro seems too soft. Why the hell is his character speech bubble so dam big and have paragraphs in them( bro needs a editor fast) its worst than hxh.
Wealth can be built without comics and manga, as long as you understand the concept of money. So that should not be a requirement to get into it, let alone a standard. Finacial freedom first, not the otherway around. Difficult to make comics and anime if you're broke and have no idea how to manage money, that's not going to change if you have more money coming in and you still can't control your spending.
The thing is that he needs to understand that there are standards in manga, and if Koffee comics can’t tell you then a Japanese person will and they’ll tell you by not telling you anything…
By looking at some of your videos, your art is definitely better than his. Your mc looks cool and original, whereas his looks like a Goku clone. His art looks like he drew it in photoshop w/ a mouse, copy and pasted and resized it as if he was in a graphics design class. The colors are flat, backgrounds are horrible; basically everything is lackluster compared you Koffee. He can do better with practice and research though, but to say that his art is better... Oof.
Koffee i would recommend you check out the manga ''Chasing Squirrels" on the top 10 list in the monthly awards in Manga Creators Plus. I think it deserves to win an award for this month. Either way awesome video bro!
another boo-hoo-waa artist complaining that he didnt like what koffee said, and the cherry on top of the cake... he says his art is better than koffee, prob better than everyones here 😱
By the way koffe I go by Midnight, this is my other account, I own an animation studio and employ several manga artists I wish for you to criticize my content and give me tips on how to get better
Jay sinner is still chasing his five minutes of clout instead of grinding to improve his work and it shows. Nobody after watching this discussion will go buy or check out his work. One hour wasted on meaningless points, instead of improving your basic storytelling fundamentals. Shout out to Muzi for giving another troll some attention and spotlight they so desperately need!😂
Ima be real with you, no hate you taking the time to comment says the same thing about you id advised you work on your one shot considering that last one you did for Saturday am wasn’t good
Storytelling fundamentals? Aren't you the same one who's entire story is built on ignorance, the sun exploded in your world, not only would all life die but the entire planet would be eviscerated, the entire solar system
what kind of goofy ass looking art is that lol, he really got some balls showing that 🤣🤣
show you art@@DraztikMeasurez
Are you at work?? I fuckin died when that happened
I just got to that part😂 wtf
Battle of mid
Battle of gods
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 nah, both mid, pointless arguments, mid art on both sides, the only thing that's big here is their egos.
@@Asukyo bruh its a dragonball référence, dont you get it?
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 I watched dragon ball 16 years ago I don t remember all of it and if it s the new shit I'm not interested
@@Asukyolmao
I love you Koffee and I want the best for you, but I agree that you need to be more respectful. You’re burning bridges brotha.
During the art portion I was looking for him to answer: page dimensions, gutter space, final format book size... etc. I was a little disappointed because when you talk a lot your basic knowledge of your craft should be exceptional.
@SINVERSE137 it does matter when you want to sell your books. All the setting of book size and text bubbles are the most important so that your readers can actually you know.. Read your comic lol.
he really said he better😮💨😮💨
😂😂i cant with this man if he wasn't trolling then its truly dissapointing
I give it to koffee, that guy is missing alot on what makes comics attractive
If you can, you should really stream these live. Take super chats and answer questions live would be really cool.
I want to, but the random power cuts, bro...
True true, Eskom be like that man, but I hope now that you've started monetizing the RUclips channel, you can save up for a power inverter.
@@YaBoi_BlackArts and move to a better place 🙏
Everything is subjective, yet somehow he can tell others whats good or bad.... by what standard? His feels, cause they more important than whats real.
Man thinks he's a disney princess, he's floating so high off the ground that he takes calls at work. Doesnt take his job seriously nor his own words, yet we're suppose to riffle through his ramblings to figure out what he means. Very soft behavior, which is why he concerns himself so much with what other people think. He's more interested in approval & head-pats than success. The type of person to burn themself out at 40, get bitter & blame others, but people just did what they were allowed to.
@@SINVERSE137look at this loser lol.
God this guy loves to yap, it's almost like the point of your videos flew over his head. Fundamentals? He can't even get color theory and composition down. No line weight or structure to his faces, nothings dynamic not even the action poses (3d model skill level type shi) the art style is default ( did you forget to add the human touch and creativity?). Is he playing a game of lets see how many words he can fit into a single speech bubble? Blurred asset bgs as opposed to hand drawn? lol. Wait a min is that Goku? He hasn't studied art for years and if he has I can't tell and this skill level is amateur since we're being honest in this channel. This isn't rage bait, Koffee has just been saying what alot of people been thinking for a long time. What really resonated was his talk about demoralization. Lets be honest yapperton, most of us wouldn't look twice at your work. Hell, I doubt you would read another story that had the same art as yours, your friend group shoulda been told you this wasn't it. The way this guy asks for a serious conversation but giggles and chuckles while on a mildly serious topic makes me think he's not right in the head. Also for your character being aware of a archetype and thinking its satire doesn't make it any less unoriginal. This is proof that even if you go into the real world and get experience it won't help you if you can't extrapolate from that reality, lol thanks for being a prime example. This man gassed up cuz he got chosen as the group leader. He bad for business.🤣
You gotta break up the sentences every 5 sentences
I think bro kinda contradicted himself from the beginning of the video he said “not manaa.. ya know manga not that either. Comic books” but later in the video he said his work is manga….
Lol this debate gotta get redone cause bro kept goin off topic after he was trying to state his points he was gettin a lil toooo excited 😭😭🤣🤣😭 but this was a good one
Edit: imma definitely keep a look out and check out his stuff also to form my own opinions also
“Muh art better muh panels better muh book better and my mc Badder than yours“ 😤🔥💀
His art is garbage
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf are you ok dawg?
Fake it til you make it; blind uplifting; silent, or masked disagreement is what PEOPLE in the indie space utilize as to not upset the balance. There is no space for a budding creator to be "real" right out of the gate. That will get you axed by the zombies really quick. Play the game; play their game. Get it?
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf ayyyeee following me around now.
He has a animation short on his RUclips channel!!!
I can tell he has been studying his angels anatomy and line work. To me it looks a lot cleaner than the comic work.
At the end of the day that’s what it’s all about self improving and being better than yourself from yesterday.
All in all I think bro should come back on the podcast tho but maybe have his points and objectives plus questions for koffee more organized so it will be less talking over each other because at the end of the day it’s just all a debate. The diggs to each other not what we need lol.
I can tell bro was hyped up to talk to koffee I would be to because he is really one of the few giving opportunities to chat it up !!!
I’ll say also art is subjective and not at the same time. Some people go by standards and have different criteria for them. I say both have unique art in their on personal style and it’s nothing wrong with that either.
This one is actually legendary
It's as you were able to expose in the interview:
Because this guy has created his own standards for his artwork, *of course* his work is better and it will always be better because he said so.
I believe this belief comes in part from the idea that "art is subjective"....and because of that, who's there to say what makes art good or bad? -- despite there being objective standards and principles to creating art (some of which is clear he's aware of, but doesn't know yet how to apply)
He reminds me of another video you have about a black artist who is unfortunately unaware that his skill level isn't at the standards of his inspirations (I think he said vinland saga was one of them)
Anyways, really appreciate your videos and your mission and vision is a real inspiration - May the Lord continue to bless you with health, strength and conviction to put work out there that inspires people in the right direction
Yup this right here
@@SINVERSE137 please re-read my comment.
I wasn't talking about you being the one inspired by vinland saga. I can understand though how it could be misunderstood.
As for everything else i said, what made it the dumbest comment?
What is the standard for your comic and art that anyone could objectively say you're work is good, or at least better than Koffee?
@@SINVERSE137 i dont like talking about other people but what makes you think your comic is a manga?
@@SINVERSE137 i saw your profile picture there is no way your art is manga. Its baby art at best. Do better next Time, incel
@@SINVERSE137 ur not real
Coffee, I'm not a fan of yours typically, but in this debate, I was behind you 100%. I don't know the other dudes name but he made himself look so bad and so ignorant. He came on your platform too, trying to lil bro and failing 😂Truly terrible hunchback
@wivyYA Koffee didn't have to. That’s how bad the other guy was. Every time he rambled, he just kept digging his grave deeper
Agree, blud failed. Ninjas beefing with comics now is crazy
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf If you're talking about the word hunchback I used it because it's in the title
aint no way this mf thinks his art is better, his art gives off the " graphic design is my passion" meme hahaha
Lmao he is a narcissist
It gets no realer than this koffee give everyone a platform to say they piece
Your a better man than me koffee, I would’ve ended the call after 15 minutes…..
But good on you on taking on more confrontational debates, looking forward to the next chapter of bloody hell
I love that profile picture 😂
Speaking of “ be on the lookout”… be on the look out for my sanity after this podcast. Lol 😂
Bro this dude trolling
He is a narcissist
I know this dude. I used to talk to him on Instagram 😂
I only just find out about this fool cause of koffee, bro is just a random nobody like almost everybody in comments section( bro likes to switch topic when he can't give a proper answer). Bro really said you losing the conversation, like he really thinks he's winning in the 1st place.
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf who are you?
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797the right question to ask.
@@twinbrosgamersja4919 lmaooo thèse people are nobodies 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf npc
@@JaustAFan-ir9qfI know you wasn't talking about yourself lol( just fooling around). My point in my comment was to say this guy thinks he's better than us, when in reality he's a nobody like me and everybody in the comment section( with bad art too).
This man argues with emotion, no reasoning what so ever
Koffee just quit RUclips 😢😢😢
Why?
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 I don't know something on Instagram 🤔
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 if you guys can join the pateron he has content on there
From pages that I’ve seen, the how to draw comics the marvel way would have benefitted him cause the gesture and composition is making me angry as someone learning the fundamentals of art
This dude is talking a lot of mess with his Calarts goku wannabe, lol. It looks like he made this in MS paint. Koffee, real talk, these debates aren't fair. It sounds like you're arguing with someone's little brother. At this rate, you might be able to launch a comedy corner or comedy segment. You got me cracking up while I'm trying to draw and listen to this. Good shit, bro.
51:17 Is this dude calling this manga? No wonder american manga is looked down upon just by saying american manga. Man, this guy really exists....LMAO!
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf what is cow arts? And what is American moga? I haven't heard of these. Please inform me.
Where do you find these characters XD
@@MiguelFernandez-ke4jg Yes, send me all the goofballs with "opinions". Who needs sanity.
@@aka_zenko 😂
@@MiguelFernandez-ke4jg Wait....did I miss something? I didn't think was a target "yet".
@@MiguelFernandez-ke4jg 😂
@JaustAFan-ir9qf he saw my youtube and sent me a dm.
I mean, I was joking, but this guy probably contacted him.
It’s been 2 whole days without any new koffee content. Naw man I dnt like that at all
Lmao Facts
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 he made a updated post on Instagram about the future. I’m hoping everything is good on his end. But tbh it’s time to show more support.
Koffee is one of the few people to do a review video on Apple Black volume 4. He literally starts the video by saying Whyt's art is fantastic. He does give compliments where it's due. People seem to label him a hater because he critiques people and their work. But you critique something because you want it to be better.
@@JaustAFan-ir9qf youre a fan npc
@JaustAFan-ir9qf I agree with you. But his opinions shouldn't bother anyone because they are subjective.
Ts game me quite a laugh ngl, ego is the worst thing you could have as an artist
Aren’t you the idiot you laughed at me?
Bro really thinks he's better, bro seems too soft. Why the hell is his character speech bubble so dam big and have paragraphs in them( bro needs a editor fast) its worst than hxh.
Nah don't compare hxh with this fodder
Ooh goodness…. The guest is just…. Wow. Insufferable.
Wealth can be built without comics and manga, as long as you understand the concept of money. So that should not be a requirement to get into it, let alone a standard. Finacial freedom first, not the otherway around. Difficult to make comics and anime if you're broke and have no idea how to manage money, that's not going to change if you have more money coming in and you still can't control your spending.
That guy has a big ego
He is a narcissist
The thing is that he needs to understand that there are standards in manga, and if Koffee comics can’t tell you then a Japanese person will and they’ll tell you by not telling you anything…
Exactly you cant draw everything at once. You have to follow some steps then you will be really good
Dude at work having a dept. at least he can multitask
I don’t know how he thinks his art is better than yours. I’m baffled
How can this freak say this to u bro u offer pure caffeine 😭💯
By looking at some of your videos, your art is definitely better than his. Your mc looks cool and original, whereas his looks like a Goku clone. His art looks like he drew it in photoshop w/ a mouse, copy and pasted and resized it as if he was in a graphics design class. The colors are flat, backgrounds are horrible; basically everything is lackluster compared you Koffee. He can do better with practice and research though, but to say that his art is better... Oof.
An he knows onsorugo people hes big cappin 😂😂😂😂
Koffee i would recommend you check out the manga ''Chasing Squirrels" on the top 10 list in the monthly awards in Manga Creators Plus. I think it deserves to win an award for this month. Either way awesome video bro!
Really?
Yeah its pretty good
Man calls you a hater yet he was the one crying
@@SINVERSE137sure, what ever u think
another boo-hoo-waa artist complaining that he didnt like what koffee said, and the cherry on top of the cake... he says his art is better than koffee, prob better than everyones here 😱
52:40 💀 bro roasted yo shi 😂
56:28 💀💀💀
This is embarrassing he attacked Muzi and has trash art and story that’s crazy
Garuntee you didn’t read it
Sounds like this guy just wanted clout
Man these amateur artist should focus on their finances
Love koffe lol! Soon i will have you review my manga!
By the way koffe I go by Midnight, this is my other account, I own an animation studio and employ several manga artists I wish for you to criticize my content and give me tips on how to get better
@calebwest3797 well dude, I hope u saw my ad, that it'll cost u $20 for that.
He is corny
Jay sinner is still chasing his five minutes of clout instead of grinding to improve his work and it shows. Nobody after watching this discussion will go buy or check out his work. One hour wasted on meaningless points, instead of improving your basic storytelling fundamentals. Shout out to Muzi for giving another troll some attention and spotlight they so desperately need!😂
Just wanna tell you that um if the sun blew up there would be no life in earth lol don’t seem like you thought that one through😭😭😭
Ima be real with you, no hate you taking the time to comment says the same thing about you id advised you work on your one shot considering that last one you did for Saturday am wasn’t good
@@MaxLeffens lol!
Storytelling fundamentals? Aren't you the same one who's entire story is built on ignorance, the sun exploded in your world, not only would all life die but the entire planet would be eviscerated, the entire solar system
@@plague5547 lol!
58:32
Dude got his ass cooked and then played it off as him trolling and getting publicity from your channel 🤣🤣
54:36🤣
This reminds of the comics linkara made
Rage bait attention is still attention
😂 I love how they bring Africa into the debate when they try to discredit Koffee. How is his art better? 😂😂 Dude was trolling.
Koffee your art compètes with some shonen manga his art looks like a kid draw it
No it doesn't, like not one manga in shonen that it competes with art wise
"Koffee your art competes with some shonen manga" 🤣🤣🤣
@@plague5547 démon slayer you npc
@@SINVERSE137I checked out your RUclips channel and seen your animation short!!! I can tell you been improving
@@wivyYA wait what happen to his comment?