New Pinarello Dogma F review: What It’s Actually Like to Ride!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • My first ride experience with the new Pinarello Dogma F in the Dolomites
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    00:00 Intro
    00:43 Frame design updates
    3:06 Tech Deep dive\
    8:20 First Ride impressions
    10:19 Riding in the Dolomites
    14:33 Summary
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Комментарии • 91

  • @keagandevilliers2832
    @keagandevilliers2832 Месяц назад +22

    “it is freeeezing cold” he says while not wearing gloves

  • @jonblake7871
    @jonblake7871 Месяц назад +11

    Well survived, David. The weather looks awful. Great review and brilliant to hear from the designer team. Look forward to more of that.

  • @peterl3463
    @peterl3463 28 дней назад +1

    David you were so lucky to ride this awesome new bike in the best place possible.
    I wouldn't mind riding my bike in that cold.
    Right now here in Athens it's 38 degrees.

  • @n22pdf
    @n22pdf Месяц назад

    Great review David 😊 not a bike for me personally but good to listen to the design teams ideas 👍🚴🏻Pete 🚴‍♀️

  • @user-ep2cn5yu8b
    @user-ep2cn5yu8b Месяц назад

    i saw the new Pinarello at my local shop yesterday just an amazing looking bike! dave your comments about the bike swerving from side to side when you are out of saddle im not an engineer but kind of makes sense due to the new narrow headset and the narrower handel bar not enough stability

  • @ovi-kernkraft400
    @ovi-kernkraft400 Месяц назад

    Great review, the bad weather adds to the content as well, if i was in the market for a £12k tarmac i might as well stretch the budget for one of these. The quick steering is something you would quickly get used to as long as no "tank slapping" happens. Just remember to carry a pair of marigolds next time.

  • @DavidStacey-tx7on
    @DavidStacey-tx7on Месяц назад +3

    That noise is standard disx brakes when they are wet or containated.

  • @fredericpressel1611
    @fredericpressel1611 Месяц назад +3

    The so called new Toray M40x fiber is already used by Canyon in some of their top end race and MTB bikes. Just doing some free research for you ❤

  • @markwright8030
    @markwright8030 Месяц назад +6

    Hi David
    Loving the new dogma🚴‍♂️👍 been a fan since day one. Great video as always

  • @jonasdecraene7908
    @jonasdecraene7908 Месяц назад +1

    Hi David, I suppose the new cockpit is perfectly compatible with the outgoing Dogma F frame and its headset? I want to go shorter and tweak my shifter position on my 2022 Dogma F… Thanks.

  • @TheChindoboi
    @TheChindoboi Месяц назад

    Appreciate the interview. Might need to pack some water resistant gloves next time 😂

  • @bjornbaron5940
    @bjornbaron5940 Месяц назад

    Beautiful place for a test ride.

  • @tonimartini-zo8ho
    @tonimartini-zo8ho Месяц назад +12

    Here is an idea for your next review: thermal gloves!!

    • @sharpcsc998
      @sharpcsc998 Месяц назад +1

      Ha ha my thoughts exactly!! Mmmm

    • @agustindavid
      @agustindavid Месяц назад

      Probably he has to handle the camera and stuff

    • @steveindorset
      @steveindorset Месяц назад

      😂😂😂

  • @andysmith2077
    @andysmith2077 Месяц назад

    Great video David. Would you swap it for your gorgeous c68?

  • @ruisantos5746
    @ruisantos5746 Месяц назад +1

    Hello from here 🇵🇹 👋 . What are your thoughts on the new dogma vs the sl8 ? 🙌

  • @user-ep2cn5yu8b
    @user-ep2cn5yu8b Месяц назад

    i have a two half year old dogma f with 42 cm handelbar and no left to right swerve out of the saddle!

  • @paulwixman8151
    @paulwixman8151 26 дней назад

    David, definitely one of your best reviews.....Cheers Mate!! (mind your fingers!!! worth more than the bloody bike) Pjw

  • @jurgenhinz6320
    @jurgenhinz6320 Месяц назад +1

    I do own a Dogma F and wonder why Pina didn´t add any extention to the name - or did I miss someting ?

  • @pawelodz8050
    @pawelodz8050 Месяц назад

    Lovely colour

  • @reinholdachleitner2069
    @reinholdachleitner2069 Месяц назад

    Awesome build and new improved Pinarello Dogma design but,boggles that you weren't wearing any form of gloves like full fingered ones.💯👌🏻✌🏻🚴‍♂️

  • @tsubasaboringnote
    @tsubasaboringnote Месяц назад

    Does anyone know where this extremely expensive Dogma F frame is made?

  • @skogling
    @skogling Месяц назад

    What date did you actually ride?

  • @fabianmolyneux2308
    @fabianmolyneux2308 Месяц назад

    The lurching from side to side when climbing looks energy sapping or inefficient. Was that what you experienced? Great review and get some gloves

  • @inferno4001
    @inferno4001 22 дня назад

    My F10 still gets the job done! That said, if I win the lottery, I'll definitely get me the latest dogma!

  • @joepcuypers4807
    @joepcuypers4807 28 дней назад +1

    Tcr advanced sl, sworks sl8 or this new dogma f?

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  27 дней назад +2

      Giant for value, Specialized for aero and weight, Pinarello for posing 😜

  • @paulwoodward8265
    @paulwoodward8265 Месяц назад

    Gloves?

  • @danielmiles3636
    @danielmiles3636 11 дней назад +1

    When can we expect a full review? I'm seriously considering this over an SL8 and really value your opinion....

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  11 дней назад +2

      The test bike has literally arrived today so soon hopefully - any specific questions?

    • @danielmiles3636
      @danielmiles3636 11 дней назад

      @@davidarthur just keen for your general review for a weekend warrior !

  • @craiglewis6821
    @craiglewis6821 Месяц назад +3

    The elephant in the room; how much David?

  • @harrylook7810
    @harrylook7810 Месяц назад +4

    are you going to review the X?

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  Месяц назад

      If they let me yeah I’d love to

  • @ariovaldogoncalves4162
    @ariovaldogoncalves4162 Месяц назад +1

    BIKES CORTANDO O VENTO IGUAIS AS ESPADAS NINJAS.
    CADA VEZ MAIS AFIADAS💡

  • @paulgrimshaw8334
    @paulgrimshaw8334 Месяц назад +2

    What lock would you mount on this bike? I’m thinking the New York Fahgettaboudit Chain and New York Disc Lock. 4.9kg but it gets a good rating. 😂

    • @steveindorset
      @steveindorset Месяц назад

      “Fahgettaboudit chain” 😂😂😂 classic mate. 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @theovannieuwenhuizen5756
      @theovannieuwenhuizen5756 Месяц назад +1

      I'd go for a used armoured truck! 🚛

  • @87togabito
    @87togabito Месяц назад

    You don’t get to say rim brakes aren’t dead, when the only model it’s still offered on is the outgoing version.

  • @steveindorset
    @steveindorset Месяц назад +12

    “What I have to suffer to bring you new reviews”?? 😆😆😆A fully all expenses paid trip to the Dolomites to ride some posh bikes up some of the world’s most famous climbs?? You had to struggle with the very best Italian food, wine & hospitality?? Oh how you must’ve suffered for us David!!🙄😜 Anyone of us would like to swap with you in a second.
    Now stop being a tart and tell us the truth. It’s uncomfortable? it’s ugly? (that bottom bracket looks like a telephone directory to me🤮) and it’s waaaaaay overpriced? But much like the emperor’s new clothes - there’s always those that’ll believe the hype and buy one! Hope you had a great trip David.😎👍🏻

  • @siitan83
    @siitan83 Месяц назад +3

    why not make the custom aero bottles??? like other brands... seems like theres plenty of saved watts hidden there. something for the next dogma f?

    • @kimwarner6050
      @kimwarner6050 Месяц назад +1

      It's not practical, the down tube is designed to shield the bottle

    • @RyonBeachner
      @RyonBeachner Месяц назад +1

      The new Trek Madonda bottles look like a pain in the ass as they can’t be stood upright as the bottle doesn’t have a flat bottom. BMC’s custom cages are designed a round bottle in the same way the frame is shaped for the Dogma. So… yeah, please no special bottles.

    • @siitan83
      @siitan83 Месяц назад

      @@kimwarner6050 3-4-5 watts saved are very practical... and the downtube could go slimmer aswell

    • @kimwarner6050
      @kimwarner6050 Месяц назад

      @@siitan83 I ride for fun, I don't care

    • @siitan83
      @siitan83 Месяц назад

      @@kimwarner6050 sure! and the bike is for those who earn a living with it.

  • @andrewwhittaker43
    @andrewwhittaker43 Месяц назад

    Say hello to Dylan at Sportskostner Corvara hopefully I will be riding an x in September!

  • @FaiscaaaH
    @FaiscaaaH 27 дней назад

    Let me try to anticipate all that was said about the "new pinarelo" 33434 % lighter 34656 % more stiffer, 46643 % more aero and 695945 % more compliance. Is this it ??

  • @decoherence926
    @decoherence926 Месяц назад +1

    Yes, because we need a new superbike in our stable every. single. year.

  • @theovannieuwenhuizen5756
    @theovannieuwenhuizen5756 Месяц назад +1

    Always like your style of producing videos. But I sometimes have trouble hearing what you say because of the tempo and accent. Positive feedback.
    Now to the content of this video. I'm trying to find the right words to describe my thoughts.
    A bike so ridiculously expensive and still the design team is unable to simulate everything? To me this just is a lot of bs. The new bike is just a little nuance compared to the old(er) one(s). Like altering the paint scheme. It's obvious that you don't have the latest and greatest because of this.
    However for most of us shedding our body weight would bring more gain than upgrading our bike.
    Reducing weight and aerodynamic drag alone will make me much faster on almost any entry level bike.
    Curious to hear what you think?
    But a stunning and very Italian looking bike and a very impressive PR job.

  • @saphireg8094
    @saphireg8094 Месяц назад +1

    This or the madone?

    • @ekm3820
      @ekm3820 Месяц назад

      Madone

    • @louis1904
      @louis1904 28 дней назад

      Dogma F anyday, many difference

  • @davtwill531
    @davtwill531 Месяц назад +38

    £15,000 and they can’t even set up the brakes correctly 🤦‍♂️

    • @gabrieljohannson6777
      @gabrieljohannson6777 Месяц назад +3

      £15K comment right there 😂

    • @christophertan3195
      @christophertan3195 24 дня назад +1

      it's usually like that when in the wet it's normal

    • @oneschance
      @oneschance 9 дней назад +1

      @@christophertan3195 100% agreed. I was at a Pinarello demo day yesterday. Brakes were 100% fine and quite remarkable with no squeaking. It started raining and that game was over immediately. Was on the Campagnolo Ekar(known for great breaking) for that run. For the event I was on three different brakes systems of different manufacturers(SRAM Red, Dura Ace and Campag Ekar). There was no squeaking on any of the bikes until it started raining.

    • @christophertan3195
      @christophertan3195 8 дней назад +1

      @@oneschance makes me think it's the commentary that is wrong LOL If you've ridden in the wet long enough squeaking is normal

  • @niklaskristensson2231
    @niklaskristensson2231 Месяц назад

    Great " machina"😊

  • @Eirikkinserdal
    @Eirikkinserdal Месяц назад +1

    Looks like an road e bike 😂 maybe it is one too? 😂

  • @kieron88ward
    @kieron88ward Месяц назад

    What's the point of it being more aero if you end up having to ride further because it zigzags up every road? 😂

  • @ariffau
    @ariffau Месяц назад

    I want that new cockpit. 140mm stem, 34cm handlebar. But on a Dogma X. 🤤

  • @myxti3669
    @myxti3669 Месяц назад +2

    Gloves?! 🤣

  • @lacyleech7798
    @lacyleech7798 Месяц назад

    If is so cold, why not using gloves?!

  • @MiataBRG
    @MiataBRG 26 дней назад

    Where are your gloves?!

  • @elviracatherinetalaoc2070
    @elviracatherinetalaoc2070 Месяц назад +1

    The back looks like venge.

  • @pabs3065
    @pabs3065 Месяц назад +2

    Looks lovely… apart from the bottom bracket. That looks awful. Chunky monkey.

  • @brbiofa
    @brbiofa Месяц назад

    Van Rysel 😅

  • @carlobalzer3238
    @carlobalzer3238 Месяц назад

    Amazing bike £15k 😲 😲💰💰💰🙄

  • @ageofsigmar7236
    @ageofsigmar7236 Месяц назад +4

    Prototype in Pinarello HQ, next mess production Still made in China 😂

    • @ravenmoto5948
      @ravenmoto5948 Месяц назад +3

      China or Tawain, that's where almost every bike is made these days.

  • @benoitmurray85
    @benoitmurray85 Месяц назад

    Far away from California! Lol

  • @dickieblench5001
    @dickieblench5001 Месяц назад

    God help us

  • @byrondixon4648
    @byrondixon4648 Месяц назад +2

    Sounds like it's not the most ideal bike for the majority of people who could afford it.

    • @barneyklingenberg4078
      @barneyklingenberg4078 Месяц назад +1

      Obviously, it’s made to win races. And they only make professional race trim versions.
      I can’t ride it comfortably. I wouldn’t mind going through the pain for 3 days Dolomites with an premium hotel with wonderful Italian food and wine though.

    • @byrondixon4648
      @byrondixon4648 Месяц назад

      @@barneyklingenberg4078 yes, I'd put my hand up for that too. But I would want the weather to be better. 😉

  • @JayGrofte
    @JayGrofte Месяц назад +2

    Aero thru axles. What nonsense

    • @paulgrimshaw8334
      @paulgrimshaw8334 Месяц назад

      Gaffer tape. Done! Now I have a bike with the latest aero feature. 🤣

  • @dylanwynroberts
    @dylanwynroberts Месяц назад +4

    Advert? Sorry but no way a pushbike is worth £15k!

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  Месяц назад +3

      No it's not an advert

    • @dylanwynroberts
      @dylanwynroberts Месяц назад

      Fair enough, fair play for travelling to the Dolomites to review a Pinarello bike on your own accord!!

  • @mlee6136
    @mlee6136 28 дней назад

    If you wear gloves like a normal person instead of for fashion maybe your hands wouldn’t be freezing 😂

  • @neilrobinson7965
    @neilrobinson7965 Месяц назад +1

    So to summarise: Over reactive, twitchy steering and uncomfortable. Hmm.

    • @kmmntrls
      @kmmntrls Месяц назад

      ... and ugly. 😅

  • @chrisscott558
    @chrisscott558 Месяц назад +2

    As per usual well overpriced