5 MODS to AVOID for your New Ford Mustang GT!
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*In this episode we talk about Mods/ Upgrades that I do not recommend for your new 2018-2019 Ford Mustang GT.
Here's my MOD list to avoid for your new Mustang:
1. Headers
2. Diff Bushings
3. One Piece Drive Shaft
4. Driver Side Catch Can
5. 20 inch rims
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Stang Mode; Thanks for your honesty on mods . I talked to a Ford Performance Engineer on the benefits of long tube headers . His response was the headers will only give your Mustang 10 more HP at wide open throttle . He said the sound will be louder but the factory exhaust is a great flowing exhaust . So is 10 more HP worth say $1700 ? I really don't see how . Thanks again for your video. BULLITT K0040
Not to mention the implications of getting fined $1000 if you ever visit California
@@brad3378 is that if you even drive into California or just if you're registered there?
@@tcolec540
Good question.
At $1000 per ticket, I hope that I never find out.
You get more power not only at the top end but through the rpm range . It’s way worth it IMO . Especially if you go e85 throw some timing at it it .
@@cobradwight1 Correct gains are not just peak power but through the powerband something most dont understand.
I agree with what you’re saying because I learned that lesson the hard way. It wasn’t Mustangs, but the situation is the same. It is SO easy to keep modding, and modding, before realizing that you’ve ruined your ride for street driving. And it REALLY sucks if you’re still making payments!
Just reload the parts back....DUH!!!
This is why I’m happy mine is an automatic. It has paddle shifters which make it fun, but I’d lose my mind driving that car in DFW if I had a clutch. Instead it’s +800 HP monster that I drive everyday.
Zero mods for my 18 GT350. She was perfect off the showroom.
I can honestly respect that oh, I am a little surprised no offense but I can honestly respect that. I catch a lot of heat on this channel but I love your car. I'm actually just a car geek that's all
T/A Plus Hemi We all like deferent flavors, no one is better than the other. Keep living the dream, thanks bro.
For $56k+ I'd hope it's what you want.
However, supposedly a good exhaust will increase power by 49hp and 82 lb-ft.
Oh yes when you get a Shelby the car needs nothing perfectly engineered congrats bro.
Tinted windows and maybe a air freshener and that's it.
Thanks for the insights man. We tend to get carried away with mods, as it's just fun to do. But it's really nice to hear the cons side. Hardly anyone makes a mod and then discourages you from doing the same. Stock doesn't always suck. Sometimes it's pretty damn good!
I think you’re completely correct here. I’ve went and done these modifications and wish I hadn’t for various reasons. I’ve actually reversed mods on the principles you mention here. At some point you start losing what made you love the car in the first place. I’ve done this so many times, I’m glad you touched on this in this video. Thank you sir.
Glad you enjoyed
Great advice from a guy who has been there and done that.
I agree on the 20's. I went with 19x10's for a square stance. I like the sound of long tube headers though, especially Kooks. If I were buying a 18 or 19, I would get the magneride and just do the GT350 lowering springs.
Nice video, StangMode. I completely agree with you regarding the 2018/2019 Mustang, especially if it's a daily driver. I had an over-modded 5.0 Mustang that unfortunately became such a problem to drive on the street, I had to sell it. And living here in California one has to be careful about street mods anyway.
Very good information StangMode! I agree with the wheel size especially, since I went from 18" wheels on my '08 GT500 to 20"s and the ride is much rougher. Keep up the good work.
Good stuff stang! Been watching your vid’s for a while now. You and Zander13 have the best new generation mustang content out there.
I’m still happy with my 18’ PP1 6-speed lightning blue with the less common 5 spoke wheels the PP1 comes with. On the road I’ve seen most PP mustangs have the black wheels, which do look good, but I prefer the other option 19” that are fairly rare to see.
I love that Ford looked at all the mods we made before and make it look closer to that straight out of the factory. I love the new Mustangs and I can’t wait to get one next year. For now I’ll keep on rocking my New Edge sixxer.
I am waiting on Ford to fix the front end
The Stock headers are great on a stock car. But when you start moving more air into the engine with other mods, you need to move more out. If you plan on staying na or supercharging, they will quickly become a choke point.
You literally just saved me thousands. Thanks StangMode!
Did all my mods by me just me. The steeda stop hop kit.installed properly nothing, no nvh, no whine. Perfect since my long tubes drown out any road noise if there was any to complain about. Driveshaft is essential in losing rotation mass and launching hard, just ask the many that broke em to pieces, and lived to tell about it blasting into the drivers compartment. Love the channel and the car and your personality. Just another angle from another 18 perf pack owner with those mods as described. There worth every penny for my taste and driving.. cheers!
I absolutely concur with every option you mentioned. Thank you for your unbiased opinion here.
I agree with headers because of how loud the exhaust becomes and how difficult it is to tame it afterwards AND it means you start looking at blowers only because if you go turbo they have to come out again. I agree about the 20's also but in my case I went with a 315/35/20 so I have just as much sidewall as before and the tire I chose is fairly quiet (conti sport)
Stang mode speaking truth! Full drag car or road course car by all means go for it, but I'll keep my street car street and comfortable
I agree with most of your list. I did the full suspension routine on my 2014 (Ford Racing Adjustable). Yes it looked better an inch lower but I couldn't drive into half the parking lots around because I'd scrap the chin spoiler. I also ended up with clunks in the back every time i hit a bigger dip in the road and in Pa there are a lot of holes and patches. All this for $2,500 that I never got back at trade-in time. When I got my 2018 I put the money into factory options such as Magniride and tunable exhaust and have left the car pretty much unmolested. The only things I put on it were jacking rails and a passenger side catch can and I'm happy with it with the exception on the black rims. Given time I'll probably replace them. A big reason people put 20s on is because most 19s don't clear the Brembo brake calipers - Shelbys do and that's probably the direction I'll go in.
Man I am so scared of speed bumps and steep driveways lol
Thank you for your great advice. I feel much better keeing my (semi) stock. I love your channel.
Even in 480p this still looks good.
You you pretty much got to have a tiled out screen for the GT350R not to look good
lol
Agree 100% with you, thanks for sharing your opinion!
I have a great deal more confidence driving in a very spirited fashion on my favourite or any mountain roads with my Shockwerks coil-overs (body roll effectively eliminated) and 20 inch rims (better grip and handling with 275/305 tires)) that the benefits and pleasure received far outway putting up with any downside. Besides that, the black/machined Steeda wheels fitted to my 2018 are very unique in Australia and are an eye/head turner and I regularly get comments on how sexy the car looks - sometimes the 'wow' factor destroys the down side of a mod, and particularly, if the downside is quite liveable and not such a downside even for every day driving.
Everything you brought up as far as not needed 💯%. You hit every single one perfectly and explained why well. I have a 2017 GT PP. 19” rims perfect, headers expensive and in CA not legal and a hassle, driver side catch is illegal in CA but not needed. Bushing just make the ride harsh and tend to break other parts and the drive shaft only needed for more power just like you said. Good list bro
CA sucks....if you're making big boy power which you can't in CA...longtubes are necessary...maybe buy a Tesla?
Just bought my 19 GT, thank you for this list. Saved me a lot of $$$ and time
Completely agree with you on everything. I have a 18 Mustang GT Premie, perf pkg3, active exhaust, magna ride, active wing and track apps and believe it’s a great set up from the factory. The only mod I did was through the dealer to secure the warranty and that was the Roush performance pk 1 which is the cold air intake kit and flash tune. It made a notable difference. I occasionally drive it on track days and enjoy the easy track set up for performance and handling using a couple of switches. It’s a beautiful handling beast with everything I want on road or track.
Hey Sir, what got me on my 2008 Bullitt was the cams. Forever stuck with custom Dino tunes. Super hare and headers, I liked a lot. But you are absolutely correct on the suspension parts. Great content!
Stang Mode. I am 66 years old I own the 112th 2013 gt500 Super Snake. I have had a litiany of cars. I built most of the early ones and then started buying them already built. To pass along a little knowledge my father the lifetime mechanic gave to me, is that the corporations spend billions on the design of the chassis, suspension and engines. So you think that you can make it run better with a few bucks here and there.
Gregg, new subscriber
I've mentioned this elsewhere, but here in Australia, the 18/19 only comes pretty much fully loaded, with the only options being Magneride, Recaros, spoiler and special paint/stripes. Dealers only order in the stocker (i.e. with dash, exhaust, leather, B&O, PP etc), or they order them in with all the above-mentioned options (sometimes also omitting stripes). I'm looking at a GT with just the Magneride, so I'll have to wait a few months, but that'll be the perfect setup for me.
Yep, been there an I agree with all your points. I ran 18's on my 11 to get a bit more sidewall due to the rough streets plus that size was a little cheaper than going with the 20's.
I totally agree with the wheels i was thinking about 20's but i thought they looked too big for the car so i went with 19's staggered , im glad i made the right choice!!
i just lowered my 2019 mustang gt with eibach sportlines, and i can take turns twice as fast and freeway entrance loops at like 50mph. it handles INSANELY better with springs just wanted to put that out there
Forgineer do you have any issues with clearance? (Speed bumps, steep driveways etc)
Same with my 19 with the Steeda progressive rate.
I must say, this video I agree with. Headers unless boosted,. suspension, s197 for the win just add struts and shocks plus control arms. One piece driveshaft for the win. Nothing rides better and hooks better than drag wheel set up! Plus cheaper performance tires.
But this is the joy of mustang ownership, huge aftermarket plus reasonably priced parts. Happy modding!
Thanks Stangmode! I have a '16 GT Premium with 19 in. wheels.. thought about going to 20 in.... I will stay with 19s after hearing your advice. Great vid!
Great video stangmode...you inspired me to purchase a black GT...I have been following you for about a year and you are probably the best mustang video blogger. Keep doing your thing👍👍👍
Awesomeness glad you enjoyed congratulations on ur GT! God Bless
Agree
For suspension; BMR, Steeda, Ford Performance, etc. have kits that take out the guess work for the streets. Hell, the Ford Performance Track Pack is quiet, significantly improved handling, is very affordable and still quite comfortable.
God Bless
Yes and with a nice wheel hop
I’m glad I watched this video before I start modifying my 2020 GT 👍🏼
I kept my stock 18's for winter. I have 20's for summer. I don't track. Daily driver only. Thanks for the heads up. I am getting lowing springs soon.
I’m giving up TV and just watching your RUclipss. Thanks for the ride.
Ha! Thanks glad you enjoyed
I totally agree! Coming from owner of a 15' GT with a borla cat-back exhaust , 19 inch gt350 style wheels/nitto NT05's,passenger side catch can, clutch pedal extender (cause i'm short)and window tint ! And that's it ! Completely happy with it . Owned since new. I'm not a fan of lowering springs because there are no roads that flat and smooth here in Indy except the track.
I Whippled my 2017 Stang GT so I had to do most of these. I agree with you that I miss many of the civilities of my “brand new” stang but it is my weekend carver. I just bought my wife a 2019 Charger 392 with adjustable suspension and the 6 pot brembos and we won’t be modding it for the reasons you just mentioned. Good content here, my friend. Don’t mod unless you know beforehand what you are sacrificing that which you fell in love with in the first place. Happy Stangin!!
I agree with all but the 20 inch wheels. I have 20 s on mine and it rides and performs phenomenal. Great video.
I have 20s on my 2017 gt. I will say it did stiffen up the feel of the car a bit compared to factory. I personally like this but I can see why others wouldn’t. What is your opinion on changing out factory for x-pipes or axle backs? 🤔 Thanks for a great video!
I changed the rear license plate trim on my '19. Everything else about it works great. Can't imagine lowering it. Crests hills in the country just fine. Don't want a rough ride or to be scraping the bottom off the car. Mine came stock with 20" rims. I have no issue with the ride or handling and they are sexy AF. Guess I'll have to get a test drive in one with 19" to see if I can tell the difference.
What a great video, very informative. I wanted headers for the noise but did not realise the work involved so I will avoid now thank you. I do want those 20’s though. I had the Porsche Cayman and the ride in that was so hard, every pot hole hurt. I think it will be like that again with 20” on the Stang.
Thank you for making this!👍
Thanks for the info! Just droped 50k on a used 2020 mustang gt from dealership, has 32k miles on it. Looking forward to checking out all your vids when I get time. Definitely subbed!!!!
Agree with most of this; the catch can is the only one that is a maybe not...depends is what I think the answer is, but another larger issue.
Drivability for daily driving is a major factor.
Thank you for your input I have a axle back on my ram truck. I like it but it gets old on a long run. That being said I want to get a cat back for my mustang. If I do it's going to be a touring or street version no drone. Like always 👍
Thanks for being real bro,, I was thinking about that whippel, Borla ATAK,Ford performance shock and struts on E-sportline .on 2017 convertible gt daily driver..what u think?
Nice R
Here the owner likes dudes
I do like the look of my 20 inch rims in the summer , but when I put on my 18 inch all season tires in winter it does feel like a totally different car driving so smooth.
I second your opinion about the catch cans. I have 2 of them on my 2019 Mustang GT and the driver side stays empty. The passenger side is always the one that fills up with oil.
Thanks for this. I'm waiting for my new 2022 Mach 1 and might consider some mods. I always thought the same with 20's, nice looking but not worth the rough ride etc. I did not know headers were that much of a pain to install, so I might leave them for now. The only thing I'd add to your list is simply, drive your car stock for six months to get used to a baseline and see how you like it stock. Thanks bud.
I really enjoy your video. I have a GT and thinking of some little modifications, it's funny though, all your tips were about what I was about to. I already install the upper front strut bar (a must) and planifiing changing de swea bars and adding de K-member and the rear subframe support braces. Should I stop there? Should I consider lowering it just a little bit? 460 hp is good enough but I would liked her to be more stable in the corners.
I agree with headers. I've had them on other cars. My 17 is my first Ford. It's fine if it's your weekend car. Exhausts are money pits. I have a Corsa sport system. Sounds great but I know it didn't add any power. These cars make crazy power with boost and stock exhaust.
Totally agree. I have 20s and wished I had been patient and got 19s. Tires were out of stock when i wanted to order.
18s are the better than 19s imo
I agree with every one on your list. I am going power adder, still debating between Whipple and Procharger. With that being said, I am definitely replacing the half shafts. What do you think of the BMR suspension kits for the rear to strengthen everything, all that Zander put in. Let me know!!
Thank you stangmode I recently bought a 2019 5.0 and the only mod I may install are lowering springs
Good video, agree on all 5...how do your rtr tech 5 feel for daily driving compared to stock? I'm torn btween getting tech 5 or the sve sp2 (19x11 rear)
I have 20s on 35 side wall ,now a 30/ 25 side wall is harsh, an my wheels there ultra light an they ride an handle better than the factory 18s . But on everything else you mentioned I agree with
Stangmode, can you do a video that highlights all the unwanted NVH from diff bushings and one piece driveshaft? My ‘19 is a daily driver/weekend strip car and this would help me decide which mods to do or not do based on added noise.
Can’t wait to see the new look for the Mamba! Cheers
My 18 Mustang GT Premium comes with the factory 20’s the ride is phenomenal. I had a 14 GT and that one came with the Track Pack 19’s and was also a great ride. It had summer tires and when I changed them to a all-season, the comfort went away. So I really have to say it’s the tire vs. the rim.
Thanks for sharing all this information from mistakes that others have made and this is so true for all vehicle some mods are just not with the money .
My 20's on my 02 rode very well for my daily use. I only encountered a rough ride when I lowered my car and now some of the sounds from the long tube headers kinda vibrate the car. Unlike some, I actually have to have a cCatch Can because I have a KB 2.8LC installed. But I hate having to empty it! Overall I still love my ride. However, it is true that you loose the drivability when you add certain Mods.
My 18 Mustang GT is my daily. The only mods I have done are Barton Hybrid shifter, Raceseng Weighted Shift knob, Ford Performance X-Pipe (I live in California lol) and Steeda Lowering Springs. I think for the most part I am done. The lowering springs have really helped. Especially, for people that didn’t get magneride. From factory, the ride was too floaty. Sometimes, I would get this weird noticeable hop. Once, I went with the lowering springs, don’t really feel that any more. I think it depends on the wheels regarding 19s or 20s. I recently upgraded my tires and got 20s. Combine that with the lowering springs. The car handles better. Maybe it is a tad harsh. But hardly noticeable in my opinion.
Wilson Ramirez did you get the progressives? Also did you need camber bolts?
O Cruz hi I got the progressive springs. I did not need camber bolts.
How much better is the Barton shifter? Do you still get high rpm lockout? That's the one thing that really bugs me right now. 😠
Kurt F Man, it is so much better. I would experience the lockout on 3rd gear at least once, twice a week. With the weighted shift knob and Barton hybrid shifter. Shifting is soooo much better. I don’t rev to red line often. If I do, I usually take a breath then shift lol. Haven’t experienced lock out. But that being said, Yolo the Douche Bag, had mentioned that factory clutch is ass and contribute to the lockout. (I think it was something like that.)
Great Video and I am agreeing with the suspension comment. I have done full coil over suspensions with my previous S550 but I recently bought a GT and my god does it make all the noise you where referring too. I guess its got eibach lowering springs, steeeda stop hop kit, some after market sway bars front and back and every time I pull up into a damn driveway it makes so much clunking sounds I want to just ram my car into a wall. WHY? WHY do I get all these sounds it seems like I am chasing things from previous owner who had it on Mustang Lifestyle. Shame on me for buying a Heavily modified car . Anyway great videos keep them coming.
I disagree with the headers being no go. I installed them on mine and I love the way the coyote sounds with them. They were a little pricy and the install was a pain but I’d definitely do it again.
You don’t need to keep repeating yourself. That’s why we have rewind. Could have save 7 mins of my life.
Needs that money for a gt500 lol
Had to hit the 10 min mark, and just.
Have a v6 for 6 years and got 20s like last week and just seen this video I been thinkin they drive like shit compared to my 18s but they do look better
I agree, I have 20’s. 19’s def ride better but the 20’s look better. I have 305’s in the rear though so I still have plenty meat on the road.
Good stuff and I like the reasoning behind your list choices.
The gloss on your car in the quick photo looks amazing, it looks charcoal, are you making a "Eleanor" ... That would be cool 👍
I hate my bloody swapped diff bushings, the nvh is nuts. Sounds almost like busted wheel bearings.
Regarding the rims brother, with the magneride you will find it hard to notice a difference between 19 and 20".
I got the 19 gt pp2 got the passenger side catch can replace Michelin tires bold tires for 305/30/19 nitto nt555 great riding tires trying to decide between h pipe or x pipe that's it great looking car you have there enjoy
I agree with yes.. For the cost for some of the mods, might as well suck up the cost and power add it...
Just got 10k today with my 18, not much in the mods department yet, mostly nice external ones. Power added, will do on the 1yr Mark and sure the bugs are out with warranty in tacked, also see what comes out... (Had a couple stall issues, but clean for a while).
Wow I just saw this now. I agree with everything you said and in that order! Also I don’t think you need a catch can period. Unless your power upgrading for race/track. Thoughts?
Funny I opted for factory 18 on my car for that same reason, plus I am still on stock tune. Waiting on a catch can passenger side only. On suspension upgrade front lower to the PP LCA and invested that money not spent on headers, wheels on an MPVI2 pro and a new laptop. Now I can data-log all day every day any time. and do changes as I see fit..
Good video. Definitely take all this into consideration. 👍
As all the aftermarket companies take a hit out on stangmode!🤣
Why take a hit out on him? Everything he says is only HIS OPINION.It isn't LAW,..It doesn't mean shit.
Good info and pretty much accurate thanks 🙏
StangMode i bought a 2020 GT PP1 auto, installing a JLT CAI, ported stock mani, Kooks 1 7/8 catted headers, 87mm throttle body, Corsa cat back and 93 tune, what power would you expect at the crank, I got 20 in wheels but they were a good price
I agree with the 20" rims. My 2015 came with them on it and yea they look awesome but for where I live they have been nothing but a headache.
You're on point if you want a comfortable daily, but if you're looking for big power, the ground work you have done to Black Manba is what you do. Once you boost it, you better get a catch can system with check valves so you dont blow oil out various gaskets. Been there done that.
Agree 100% with everything you said. My 19 is still stock and probably won't change a thing. I love the car.
See, I have a 95 gt with the roush stage 1 sidepipes from factory, just about everything you talked about ( except the 20” rims) are huge helps. Do you have any experience with pushrods? If so, what do you recommend for trying to get to 7 grand rpm, only have mine at 6200.
Great video couldn't agree more.. The Roush Power pack 1 gets close to 445hp at the tire.. Not bad given you keep your warranty, obviously a flex or e85 gets you better gains.. Even catch cans aren't really needed since the 18/19 have port side injection which keeps the valves clean, HOWEVER!! I did get a Ford Performance catch can, just for peace of mind.
Bought mine with 20's. I think it looks n drives Great..do you recommend Ingen Cold Air Intake without Tune?
Nicely done and agree with you 100% on all of these (2016 GT Performance Pack owner)
Good advice! Don't believe the aftermarket stores videos when they say there is no increase on vibration or noise when doing bushings. They just care about selling you crap. I learned the hard way.
I bought a 2020 GT Premium in May. One of the things I don’t like is I feel every bump,and after watching your video I’m thinking maybe that’s why. I have 20’s all around. Am I wrong?? Also you are right that they look amazing with 20’s. If I could fix 2 things the intense bump feeling is 1. The other is every time I hit the bumps,The Hop is CRAZY!!!
I’m keeping my engine/exhaust stock for now, and The only reason I’m debating a driveshaft, is I’d like to drop as much rotational mass as possible.. wheels and tires saved me 8lbs per, saving 20lbs off a driveshaft would put me around a 350lb static equivalent. (don’t know exact conversion from rot. To static) as well as a mid pipe to drop a few more lbs and sound better. But retaining factory manifolds/ active valve mufflers. Also, rather than bushings I went the steeda supports/ stop the hop, and didn’t sacrifice quality of the ride!! It feels great, and no extra noise/vibration.
What tires you recommend I have19”
I have 20’ wheels on my roush jackhammer. Car rides so good and comfortable
That’s good to hear
I only have an '11 GT but I went with 20s thinking I'd get big brakes, and then it'd be ready for boost down the line, possibly.
StangMode but that’s probably cause my cars roush suspension is tuned for 20” wheels
I have 20's on my 18 and the ride is great. Also no magneride!
Roush suspension
I agree with almost all of this Stangmode. Where I differ is on the 1 piece driveshaft. If you are going to be tuning the vehicle; I believe out of safety reasons the 1 piece is a must. Not strictly because of power reasons but because of the transbrake now being unlocked and available. I understand not everyone will use it but the combination of power (especially on E85) and temptation of 3500 transbrake launches the 1 piece is bordering on a necessity. If you’re going to drag race tuned, even casually, you need one. Thoughts?
I love your channel, bro. I've been watching for a long time. Thank you for all the hard work.
When it comes to mods, you almost have to learn the hard way. Back in the day, I learned the hard way and now I thoroughly enjoy my totally stock 2018 GT, except for the BBQ tick. The Ceratec onlly kept it quiet for a short time, so now I'm just going to live with the tick.
Good points video for daily driver.
Your deff correct on the size of the rims but ppl would still get them for the look but you're pretty spot on with everything
I am going to get the Steeda Cold air Intake, and eventually will be looking to get a 2018 ported intake for my 2017 but was wondering will I need a retune, Or can I just put the 2018 Intake right on my 2017? They say it helps it Rev out an extra 1000 RPM if Ported too.. But wondering if it will benefit without a tune????
I have my 07 gt500 so not as familiar with the newer cars. I will agree that headers suck to install plus mine have some pretty good heat soak into the cabin, as you said without a lot of power or power adders they aren't that necessary. I think your'e spot on with the bushings as well. The driveshaft i'll say to be careful and it may be needed if you lower the car a few inches in coilovers. My center bushing on the stock 2 piece began to click after i dropped it on coilovers. the drivers side catch can isn't needed but ill absolutely argue the passenger side is, ESPECIALLY if you add boost. Also argue that 20s look best on the cars i don't think theres anything wrong with 18 or 19 but i think 20's just look perfect for the cars.
Thanks for the content. I want better ride quality than my stock suspension on my Mustang since I do not have the Magna Ride. Any ideas?
I ordered steeda lower control arm spherical bushings and steeda differential bushings insert for my 2018 mustang gt pp1. Will either or both of these mods cause my ride to suffer? Seeing this video caused me some concern.