Tbh, i hate over stanced car... In country where lane split is okay for bikes, those over stanced car might hit the leg of bikers and cause accident... Some little stanced is okay... Not overly stanced
T I M E A T T A C K Time is always my enemy since my first day in school, I am going to get a car and tune it to a time attack car and beat the crap out of time.
Nope , look at most fwd rally cars , its pretty popular here in europe , every single corner is passes by drifting in that little car , fwd drifting is absolitely possible , one of the croatian time attack and rally kings is a 220hp yugo (unbeaten to this day)
Some correction. Ricer: Looks, no performance. But their owner hypes up they have a tricked out car that can smoke the competition even though they don't.
@@DatOneCat you are right but the term "ricer" got over used by a youtube channel. I don't know the name anymore but the channel called everything "rice" that had some upgrades but it didn't make the quater mile under five seconds. Absolute ridiculous. Just let the people have fun with modifying cars
@@Lolife-lw1zg those rocket bunnies brz with no performance upgrade are Ricers, they are just in your taste. Some bozo who people consider Ricer pack some performance and actually run the wangan. Take Neon-Lambo bozos for example
IDK about stance being in the same category as tuners or other performance/hot rods.... Maybe more in same category as lowriders and other custom vehicles because they're all about style and creativity. BTW... y'all need to do an episode on lowriders. From the traditional/OG bombers, the "euro scene", up to the skimmed surface on the truck episode when mentioning minitrucks
Not saying you're wrong but I guess you could take that '64 Impala with 13" Daytons and magnesium blocks around the track too... It would make one hell of a drift scene.
I thought the same thing about stance, and I'm still on the fence with it. I think its plausible though, just because circuit track cars have more negative camber on the front wheels and are lowered for cornering stability, so tuners pay homage to those race cars in an exaggerated way. Unlike lowriders who couldn't possibly be influenced by motorsports in the slightest.
@@Kangaru13 watched my boss do zigzags around the dealership parking lot to dodge drain gates. He had to drive it 3 minutes to pull out of the parking lot
@@vazquez5969 he’s got a wrx sti on coilovers that i know for sure. Its also stripped interior and has a good amount of mods but i dont wanna talk out of my ass, all i know is its got enough money put into it that he he could have put it on bags. But its also his project car and not his daily, i only see it on the nice summer days.
@@oliverdepauw5663 alot of people go with static because of money and they probably want to slam it to the floor but if you want to slam it without risking your bumper coming off you should go with bags
I genuinely like the direction that WH has taken in the past few months... its informational, but not just on cookie cutter stuff... I know its challenging to come up with something different to research/shoot/present each week that will find appeal to everyone....Keep up the good work..
The Keiichi Tsuchia (Ik I murdered the spelling) story is way off. Drifting was never faster than grip on Touge. He was simply drifting to show off while driving in regular sportscar racing series in Japan because he was way faster than everyone else.
ahh same thought. but how about 4-wheel-drift that doesn't rely on countersteering, usually due to your hand taped to the steering wheel? I heard you could go way faster with wings coming out of your car.
yea for the most part no matter how much you have to slow down for a proper line when taking a corner, its always gonna be faster than sliding through it, as far as asphalt goes
True. Tsuchiya did a comparison test with drift vs grip, as expected drift is slower. I think I watched it on one of his hot version videos. Also, watch his definition of what tuned car actually is. Basically it shouldn't be overboard to a point that you can't use it for daily use.
Depends on what track we are talking about. If you are in a very tight hairpin turn with no racing line then it would be faster.. that's why WRC drivers drift on corners
It used to take all that to make 600hp, now there's a 2017 Civic Si coupe by PRL Motorsports making 600+ from a rebuilt version of the 1.5 turbo 4 (L15B7 Si spec). It ran a 10.8 on slicks
I respect the right that everyone has to do something stupid just like they should respect my right to call them out on it. When it becomes popular to sag your pants with a bunch of toothpicks up your ass it’s going to be difficult to defend your position on respect.
Stance could hurt me in fact, it is not safe in any way, that amount of camber means that in the event that he has to brake to not hit me or simply has to steer away from me it is almost impossible not to cause an accident that could've been avoided. Oh and if it rains it the car is practically a rolling coffin. I'm not one of those always function over form guys, but if lifes are at stake...
@JasonHook100 the thing is that it does not have to be extreme to be unsafe on the road, and 90% do have extra camber that is not tuned for performance, which generally means the car is unsafer. I do like the look of a lowered car with some camber, but it is not safe in any way.
@JasonHook100 good tyres do help but they still need a good contact patch, if you reduce it to half of the contact patch you will need tyres that have double the grip, which is normally not possible. Still, if you manage to mitigate the loss of handling, that's fine by me, normal performance and good looks is a good deal to me.
Early 00s: mAsSiVe BoDy KiTs, Nitro, Aftermarket Stuffs, Custom Interior (honk for ride) 2019: Clean Body, Engine tuning, almost stock interior, most importantly Pumphrey's Dad got a popoppuppa headlight
In Puerto Rico they still have custom interiors the Grandpa's live their big ass subwoofers and in Canada they have epic trucks with big tires and tube chassis I'm Puerto Rican and Canadian I'm planning on getting a truck but my dad which is a ricer 🇵🇷 and my mom who has back problems🇨🇦 so I need a car at stock ride height and no hugeass subs or riced parts
The tuner car is, by definition of Wikipedia.org, is both an industry and a "Hobby" in which a car is modified in order to improve its performance and handling and improve the owner's driving style.
You guys should watch on how Tsuchiya define what's a tuner is. Basically it's all about "tuning" you daily driver to be better than stock (be it changing your suspension or exhaust system, etc) BUT without going overboard and turn it into track car or "weekend" car. Go watch hot version and see how to properly "tune" a car.
I used to drift in my 1985 Plymouth Horizon -- that's how you drive on gravel roads. Maybe we should have rally racing in the states like in Europe. Set up stages on Forest Service roads. It would be great.
You guys are always doing a great job! Don't quit making your videos! I've recently heard about Lee Iacocca passing. Maybe you could do a video on him soon?
Fast and the Furious times where fun, I still remember my 95 turbo DSM with the blitz body kit and underglow lights. And the priceless looks on muscle car guys face when I beat them at the strip. I miss those days.
Technically the first tuner was Bertha Benz! On the first road trip from Mannheim to Pforzheim, she has tuned original brake system on the car. Now I think she was faster than AMG or BRABUS.
I’m imagining your car being a Fiesta with ten extra HP. “When I left the supermarket, everyone was in awe when they saw what this baby could do ;)”. Actual situation: he cut off a mother trying to cross the road with her stroller.
I personally have kinda come up with a definition of tuner, which is : "A sports car lineup which focuses on heavily overdoing the driving components allowing the user to modify the vehicle in the way the user wants, thus providing great flexibility". I did use "lineup" liberally because the companies which make tuner cars usually have a whole or two lineups. INCLUDING Ford, thanks to the Focus and the Escort.
I remember all these scenes. They were all interesting in their own way. Now, I simply do what I want to do to my car without needing anyone to tell me what is right. Thank you for this video Noland.
1:00 Street Racing history(The birth of F&F) and racing games eg. NFS,Midnight Club) 2:16 Drag Racing(Nolan’s Hot Take) and Steve Papatardis’s Drag Civic 3:55 Drifting (Haichi Tsuchiya,Initial D and Formula Drift) 5:20 Time Attack 6:58 Stancing
Yes and no, because people make different builds to pursue different purposes is it car culture? Yes, but does it have a specific build? Also yes. From drag racing, drifting, auto cross, time attack, rally, and even stance. Car enthusiasts build cannot just be listed as "car culture" because they will certainly tell you different.
its just when people do dumb shit to their cars that doesnt improve them it hurts the scene......stance,donks,mall crawler 4x4's are all hideous and annoying
A little bit of history I think ya'll might like, is that the game Midnight Club pays homage to a car gang from Japan known as the Mid Night Club, who raced on the Wangan from '87 to '99. The Japanese lettering in the title also says Wangan in Kanji. The makers of the game, Rockstar Games, rented Times Square in NYC to capture the cover art for the game. This was all happening as the tuner scene was really taking off in America. Tuning cars has been going on for about as long as racing cars have. People all over the world have done it, but when we're talking about the tuner scene, we're associating it to the import scene in America as a trend that carried over from illegal street racing gangs in '90s Japan.
I heard the term "battle areo" used for the stance boi car with all the track parts and i think it sums it up pretty nicely. I used to hate stanced cars but vip cars changed my mind. There is just something about a bagged ls400 i cant get enough of.
No, they can be held liable. You just need to know the law be and be careful. My tuner fully fucked me so I sued them and won because they are scum (not all tuners, maybe most). No, I did not get all I was entitled to but I was not as careful as I should have been. Anyhow, I don't disagree with you I just encourage people to stand up to white collar scum bags.
Kevin Norris is there such thing as bad advertisement. Some times I think I'm better off not getting there name out. Any how it was Bren in Ma. The tune itself was ok. But for everything else he was a clueless hack and shamelessly lies to my face. He supposed to be an expert on my 2005 WRX but he was clueless for sure. Several tries and he could not even fix something as simple as power steering. He left dents in my car. He kept breaking my abs tone ring on like 3 axles. I'm sure I'm leaving stuff out. He also has a real smug attitude. Oh, and mechanics always say how nice my cat is and I take care of it all he says is rusty bolt rusty bolt so he can up charge. Truly the wosrt buying experience in my life. I did win my case however I did not get all what I should have. Thanks for asking homie, Have a great night.
Car noob here but since I had to scrap my first car, I took an interest in all the components and tuning scene since: 1. I've already done everything from bungie jumping to skydiving and enjoy thrills. I'd love to try a proper drag race with my daily with enough practice. 2. I like having a slightly more distinct look than everyone else. Would it be better to buy a pricier car with more HP or just tune a 💩box (cost-effectively)?
I honestly thought that tuners got their name because they could "tune" their cars with computers while muscle cars would tune with mechanical skills with carburators.
Wheelhouse suggestion - How to buy a car. Cover topics such as insurance, fees, steps to take at the bank. What is "as is?" Recommend from a dealer or private sale? New or used? Finance or lease?
Honda’s are so dope. They’re cheap, underestimated, and have huge potential. My friend has one with a big turbo, NOS, and a fully built engine, and it puts 325+ HP down easy. It’s so light it just smokes anything. Muscle cars always harass him and then he leaves them in the dust no problem. It’s nice to see some respect put on the brand.
Tuning is LITERALLY making harmonious music inside an engine! Each power pulse must have a perfect pathway unimpeded, in a perfect dance with each and every other power pulse, from infancy when they are not one unit, but a volume of air here, and a squirt of fuel there all needing a perfect and easy pathway to the perfect marriage under pressure (the Big Bang)! Then when they are one and perfected, the exit must be perfect and loudly announce that their song is over!
i think a tuner car is a car that natural just wants to go fast and be modified, normally w a great engine and chasse, and a tuned car is a car that’s modified for performance over looks even if it’s just a intake sway bars and coils, i would consider that a tuner car because it’s focoused around performance
He even said they have a small contact patch in the video, yet still defends them. And adding super stretched tires to the mix makes them even less safe on the road.
This video really made me nostalgic about the car scene in the late 90s and 2000s. I was able to buy my own tuner car and was saw first hand with my own eyes how the tuner culture split in to different sub-genres in the mid-2000s. I personally aligned myself with the autocross/time attack/track day scene, while some of my friends wholeheartedly embraced the stance scene. None of us gravitated toward the show-drift scene because of how expensive it is to keep a shitbox, ratty drift car up and running.
Static stance will always look stupid to me. I will crack jokes about you and your car, not in a mean spirited way. If you get upset by it then to me you don't have enough confidence to even be driving that car.
like hopefully the gas tax doesn't increase cause the asphalt's getting scraped up, like man we just paved this block and now that unibody done did spatula'd it all up to heck, grindin' all kinds of bumper plastic flakes in between the cracks, rubbin' all kinds of fender well debris up in here, ain't nobody got time fo' that, shootin' Sparcos up from the dangle do diddly muffler pipes, Smokey the bear's not happy, i see the Michelin man put on his Goodyear sneakers today, stompin' out this mess.
I think most ppl will call jdm, beamers (not the most luxury, expensive and superclass like bmw's, but more like older m4's etc), mid-class sports cars, and older sleeper cars tuners
LOL the end example pretty much describes my civic. 500 horses and I time attack it, but i drive it to the local car meet on thursdays and i slam the coilovers and crank the camber kits just to trigger people. Besides im pretty about the "Hard Parking" looks sick and i dont street race, local track is cheap and open till midnight.
I like all the things you went over they are all cool in their own respective ways and camber can be a performance upgrade for drift and track and style
Tuner: upgrading/modifying your car with performance parts and then having to have it tuned to optimize said parts for street use. Any specific style is it's own class of car as in drift/stance/drag/time attack.
I can’t believe this whole video didn’t talk about the jdm tuner scene. The late 90s early 00s where the focus was getting the best parts from Japan for your car
I have always been part of the Group B guys! Rally is a way life! Speed bump, no problem! We fly over anything faster than stance bois! At least I'm not the one getting honked at for not getting over the speed bump!
Nolan, I like your Dad's videos better but you are keeping me watching. I will say that I like how you enforce, that no matter what we all do to our rides, they should all be respected. If ya don't like something, shut it! Good to see that promoted nowadays. Cheers to another good episode and thanks for making me feel old. FYI - "Tuner" to me will always be import/Honda related as that is what I saw when it was prevalent. But, the term in general is certainly applicable to all things "tuned" on vehicles. So I get it.
Another great episode, very cool of you to take someone from the 'Merican Muscle Car world to cover this not someone who grew up on it. Great to have a semi outside perspective. On a side note...hard to believe we now have an entire generation of "Car Presenters" who were toddlers when F&F hit theaters... man time flies!
I don't mind people with stanced cars. I make a ton of money fixing oil pans, suspension components and motor mounts.
Anthony i would imagine people selling tires like them too.
What about tires? lol
Hahaha.. Awesome.. You break it, we'll be here to replace it.. Check..
I sold lot's of tires to this kind of people! Loved it!
Tbh, i hate over stanced car... In country where lane split is okay for bikes, those over stanced car might hit the leg of bikers and cause accident... Some little stanced is okay... Not overly stanced
Nolan: "...but if they aren't hurting You or others..."
*Stanced Mustang wants to know your location*
*stock mustangs
@@giovannidohogusto2609 Now imagine the stock mustang with even worse handling and less tire surface on the road...
@@martinhubinette2254 let the massacre begin
*Mustang drivers leaving car shows everywhere hitting second gear*
@@martinhubinette2254 wouldn't go over the curb.
Yes, exactly. If someone stances their car, don't get mad. Just leave them alone.
Completely.
Don't talk to them.
Yeah don't tell them about the oil pan they left at the last speed bump either 🤣🤣
Gothic most are self aware and even joke about it. A lot
IF people stance their car just let them be.
@@vixxgaming3834 no one said that all 13 year olds are dumbasses. Some are actually kinda mature for their age dude.
Jared Bennett shut up snowflake
T I M E A T T A C K
Time is always my enemy since my first day in school, I am going to get a car and tune it to a time attack car and beat the crap out of time.
😂
Sakuya in Maelstrom's Mansion same
I hear DeLorean makes a good chassis for that.
@@AlexandarHullRichter lol
and i find it even funnier that i have a DeLorean as my pfp
2jz swapped btw
@@zacharydasilva5322 thats called 2jizzing a car
3:55 *Whoever edited this is a meme God*
What is that eurobeats name?
@@dhanushnambiar7187 if I had to guess, running in the 90's, but it's hard to tell with the recorder and being such a short audio clip
Matt it is running in the 90s
Atleast have the courtesy to watch the first stage of Initial D, before talking such bullcrap
@@kshitijsinha2029 nobody talked bullcrap
"Drifting is pretty much impossible in a front wheel drive car"
Japanese Econobox Drifters : Hold my PVC pipe
Nope , look at most fwd rally cars , its pretty popular here in europe , every single corner is passes by drifting in that little car , fwd drifting is absolitely possible , one of the croatian time attack and rally kings is a 220hp yugo (unbeaten to this day)
@@va7entino46 loses surfaces makes anything slides
But on tarmac where your car grips up, it dosen't really slides out
Its called a powerslide
@@LukzForEver no , im talking about full on drifts thrue the mountains
@@Jason-si7ic Hmm, look what happen on Karowa street where all FWD makes drifts
Please do an Up to Speed episode on Pumphrey’s Dad!
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Ricer: Looks, no performanmce
Tuner: Looks and performance
Sleeper: No looks, performance
@@evilassjitnem Show car?
Who said ricers had looks??
It's mostly hideousity bro
Some correction.
Ricer: Looks, no performance. But their owner hypes up they have a tricked out car that can smoke the competition even though they don't.
@@DatOneCat you are right but the term "ricer" got over used by a youtube channel. I don't know the name anymore but the channel called everything "rice" that had some upgrades but it didn't make the quater mile under five seconds. Absolute ridiculous. Just let the people have fun with modifying cars
@@Lolife-lw1zg those rocket bunnies brz with no performance upgrade are Ricers, they are just in your taste.
Some bozo who people consider Ricer pack some performance and actually run the wangan. Take Neon-Lambo bozos for example
The first Fast and The Furious Movie is what got me into cars
IDK why but I was a petrol head from birth XDXD.... I always admired them.
SuperDan Same here
Same
I would say tuning started during the Prohibition in the 20's-30's to out run the cops moonshiners would tune their cars
IDK about stance being in the same category as tuners or other performance/hot rods.... Maybe more in same category as lowriders and other custom vehicles because they're all about style and creativity. BTW... y'all need to do an episode on lowriders. From the traditional/OG bombers, the "euro scene", up to the skimmed surface on the truck episode when mentioning minitrucks
@JasonHook100 yes but just standing your car isnt tuner
Not saying you're wrong but I guess you could take that '64 Impala with 13" Daytons and magnesium blocks around the track too... It would make one hell of a drift scene.
I thought the same thing about stance, and I'm still on the fence with it. I think its plausible though, just because circuit track cars have more negative camber on the front wheels and are lowered for cornering stability, so tuners pay homage to those race cars in an exaggerated way. Unlike lowriders who couldn't possibly be influenced by motorsports in the slightest.
First car with hydraulics was corvette c2
Yeah I agree, stance is more looks more than anything
I miss Science Garage pls bring it back
I second this motion
They still do the Snapchat ones, but that's not good enough
Prestado too
realHKV they fired him
@@josemanuel5749 probably not going to bring prestado back because of the haters.
8:33 this would have been a great moment to include the hit single *POP UP, UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS*
Lucas Stiles or 🙌 *Ramchargers* 🙌
Pop up up and down headlights uh
Pop up up and down headlights uh
How do I make that my ringtone?
Lol
🤟
*y e s
please dont take away points from drifters when they reverse entry drift
“Not hurting you or others.. just leave them alone”
Until you get hit by one of those stance kids because their tire debeads on the highway 🤦🏾♂️
I think stance looks nice but holy fuck is it impractical
@@Kangaru13 watched my boss do zigzags around the dealership parking lot to dodge drain gates. He had to drive it 3 minutes to pull out of the parking lot
@@oliverdepauw5663 if he has air suspensions he wouldn’t have to but not everyone can afford Bags 😂😂
@@vazquez5969 he’s got a wrx sti on coilovers that i know for sure.
Its also stripped interior and has a good amount of mods but i dont wanna talk out of my ass, all i know is its got enough money put into it that he he could have put it on bags.
But its also his project car and not his daily, i only see it on the nice summer days.
@@oliverdepauw5663 alot of people go with static because of money and they probably want to slam it to the floor but if you want to slam it without risking your bumper coming off you should go with bags
Up to Speed on Keiichi Tsuchiya would be real cool, I want to know his whole backstory
My only idol that i love since i was 4 years old i remember seeing Tsuchiya-san in his AE86 drifting around Ebisu East Course Circuit!
Yeah!
I tune my car every day
As long as the radio counts as “tuning”
Oml you're a tuner 😨
Lol
Nice pic m8
I’m “tuning” into my radio
Eric Hawkins The strongest of all Tuners! :o
slap on some te-37s and you’re a tuner by default
ben nguyen then ur a stance ricer
@@freeautoinsurance365 naw those are works
How are you a ''stance ricer'' with TE37's??
TE37SL look soo good
Normie.
2:01
The 4 Factions of JDM: The street kids, the track bros, the slidey bois and the stance squids.
sounds like nfs carbon crews. Man I miss that game.
and ricers
@Kirzo HD So... the guy who drifts his riced out daily?
I genuinely like the direction that WH has taken in the past few months... its informational, but not just on cookie cutter stuff... I know its challenging to come up with something different to research/shoot/present each week that will find appeal to everyone....Keep up the good work..
The Keiichi Tsuchia (Ik I murdered the spelling) story is way off. Drifting was never faster than grip on Touge. He was simply drifting to show off while driving in regular sportscar racing series in Japan because he was way faster than everyone else.
ahh same thought. but how about 4-wheel-drift that doesn't rely on countersteering, usually due to your hand taped to the steering wheel? I heard you could go way faster with wings coming out of your car.
yea for the most part no matter how much you have to slow down for a proper line when taking a corner, its always gonna be faster than sliding through it, as far as asphalt goes
True. Tsuchiya did a comparison test with drift vs grip, as expected drift is slower.
I think I watched it on one of his hot version videos.
Also, watch his definition of what tuned
car actually is. Basically it shouldn't be overboard to a point that you can't use it for daily use.
Aah the King 🤴
Depends on what track we are talking about. If you are in a very tight hairpin turn with no racing line then it would be faster.. that's why WRC drivers drift on corners
It used to take all that to make 600hp, now there's a 2017 Civic Si coupe by PRL Motorsports making 600+ from a rebuilt version of the 1.5 turbo 4 (L15B7 Si spec). It ran a 10.8 on slicks
I love that y'all are so positive and respect other people's style. Encourages others to do the same. Keep it up!
David or maybe they just respect everyone
I respect the right that everyone has to do something stupid just like they should respect my right to call them out on it. When it becomes popular to sag your pants with a bunch of toothpicks up your ass it’s going to be difficult to defend your position on respect.
“Well if the wheels be spinnin and the engine be spittin I’m one fasty boi”
- my bashed up s13
How about the subaru vivio gang
Nolan, I love your “Live and let live” attitude towards the car scene as a whole. I feel the same way!
Stance could hurt me in fact, it is not safe in any way, that amount of camber means that in the event that he has to brake to not hit me or simply has to steer away from me it is almost impossible not to cause an accident that could've been avoided. Oh and if it rains it the car is practically a rolling coffin. I'm not one of those always function over form guys, but if lifes are at stake...
@JasonHook100 the thing is that it does not have to be extreme to be unsafe on the road, and 90% do have extra camber that is not tuned for performance, which generally means the car is unsafer. I do like the look of a lowered car with some camber, but it is not safe in any way.
@JasonHook100 good tyres do help but they still need a good contact patch, if you reduce it to half of the contact patch you will need tyres that have double the grip, which is normally not possible. Still, if you manage to mitigate the loss of handling, that's fine by me, normal performance and good looks is a good deal to me.
Make an up to speed on Plymouth
don't you dare this is wheelhouse not up to speed
@@enverabdrahim9082 wont stop doing it on all of their video until they actually make it happened
They already made one
@@thebrodieee7797 wdym
On Plymouth what? They don't usually do whole manufacturers, they talk about specific things.
Early 00s: mAsSiVe BoDy KiTs, Nitro, Aftermarket Stuffs, Custom Interior (honk for ride)
2019: Clean Body, Engine tuning, almost stock interior, most importantly
Pumphrey's Dad got a popoppuppa headlight
In Puerto Rico they still have custom interiors the Grandpa's live their big ass subwoofers and in Canada they have epic trucks with big tires and tube chassis I'm Puerto Rican and Canadian I'm planning on getting a truck but my dad which is a ricer 🇵🇷 and my mom who has back problems🇨🇦 so I need a car at stock ride height and no hugeass subs or riced parts
"stance isnt hurting you"
Your right until stance boi vape lyfe forgets its gonna rain and im driving home around him and he loses traction
Don't forget they can't get over the lowest speed bump and block the traffic...
@@Frodokeuh the real enemy here is people that block traffic going over speed bumps in a stock height car
@UCqmVDfFxO2xpP1ixwGHNPeA I'm not going over speed bumps at 20mph eat it
"I guess no matter what you call it, I think it's easiest just to call it cool"
Those are some good words
The tuner car is, by definition of Wikipedia.org, is both an industry and a "Hobby" in which a car is modified in order to improve its performance and handling and improve the owner's driving style.
@Swampy stance?
kaan kuruüzümcü He said non-stock so yes.
El Yeti De Georgia wrong because it doesn’t improve any aspect of a car, certainly not by any constraints of wiki’s definition
IM ETHAN BRADBERRY
So does stance qualify in this or not? because imo I don’t think it does, unless you have some horsepower under your hood.
Need For Speed Carbon wants to know your location
AH YES GIVE ME MOAR
In my opinion that was the last good need for speed game, they went away from letting u customize I quit buying them.
@@M.Boatwright ?. Nfs payback is the game with most customization avaible on the new platforms
@@Jimrlst if came came out recently I haven't tried it the last 2 or 3 need for speed games I bought sucked so I quit buying them
@@M.Boatwright it came out 2017. The customization is the only thing good with the game so I don't really reccomend it
Hell yeah! Municipal WASTE! Dig the terror shark shirt.
Municipal Waste is gonna fuck you up!!!!!!! Glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
@@matchbonusxp2579 saw them again last weekend. still dope af!
I got the same one! So awesome
Levi e36 I got tickets for the LA concert!🤘
Great music taste up there
You guys should watch on how Tsuchiya define what's a tuner is.
Basically it's all about "tuning" you daily driver to be better than stock (be it changing your suspension or exhaust system, etc) BUT without going overboard and turn it into track car or "weekend" car.
Go watch hot version and see how to properly "tune" a car.
nimay13 👍🏼 Best MOTORing
@@anthonyarmstrong5012 thanks for correcting
When I hear tuner or imports I automatically think jdm that’s it
Freaking eurozone body kits lmao I almost did that shit back in 2010 thank god that shit left fast
I used to drift in my 1985 Plymouth Horizon -- that's how you drive on gravel roads. Maybe we should have rally racing in the states like in Europe. Set up stages on Forest Service roads. It would be great.
*Nice ride, what's the retail for one of those?*
Only ogs know that scene
More than you can afford. Ferrari
“Smoke him”
*More than you can afford, pal. It's a Ferrari.
I don't think that's og knowledge. Just enthusiasts.
I knew a guy back in my street racing years that had an accord with 800hp, the turbo was the size of a bucket.
You guys are always doing a great job! Don't quit making your videos!
I've recently heard about Lee Iacocca passing. Maybe you could do a video on him soon?
Up to speed on the Ford Capri. This car was awesome and this year is the 50 anniversary.
Thanks ^^
One of the forgotten Ford. Shadowed by the great Escort.
The Capri Mk.III with the 3.0L Essex V6 is a car I'd love to own.
7:52 but it hurts my eyes so hard 😵
I'm sooooo glad your a metalhead. I see your municipal waste and periphery shirts!
this video shows nothing but car positivity and i love it.
Fast and the Furious times where fun, I still remember my 95 turbo DSM with the blitz body kit and underglow lights. And the priceless looks on muscle car guys face when I beat them at the strip. I miss those days.
Technically the first tuner was Bertha Benz! On the first road trip from Mannheim to Pforzheim, she has tuned original brake system on the car. Now I think she was faster than AMG or BRABUS.
I'm a sleeper guy, stock exteriors, but tuned engine in the hood. Bcus, I love to make some surprises to these sports and supercar car owners 😂😂.
I’m imagining your car being a Fiesta with ten extra HP.
“When I left the supermarket, everyone was in awe when they saw what this baby could do ;)”. Actual situation: he cut off a mother trying to cross the road with her stroller.
@@Ubersnuber Oh wait, are u talking about your uber car and yourself? 😜😜
Slap a quad turbo V8 in and put a silencer on . 😎
when someone says tuner I think of the Need For Speed Carbon car category lmao
I personally have kinda come up with a definition of tuner, which is :
"A sports car lineup which focuses on heavily overdoing the driving components allowing the user to modify the vehicle in the way the user wants, thus providing great flexibility". I did use "lineup" liberally because the companies which make tuner cars usually have a whole or two lineups. INCLUDING Ford, thanks to the Focus and the Escort.
I remember all these scenes. They were all interesting in their own way. Now, I simply do what I want to do to my car without needing anyone to tell me what is right. Thank you for this video Noland.
1:00 Street Racing history(The birth of F&F) and racing games eg. NFS,Midnight Club)
2:16 Drag Racing(Nolan’s Hot Take) and Steve Papatardis’s Drag Civic
3:55 Drifting (Haichi Tsuchiya,Initial D and Formula Drift)
5:20 Time Attack
6:58 Stancing
Time Attack...who can set the fastest qualifying lap, over and over :)
Damn you, Nolan!
You had to go and make some of us feel ancient by reminding us it has been 18 years since FF dropped.
A-hole! 🤣
Nolan’s wearing a Municipal Waste shirt, Jobe skates, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen James in a Periphery shirt… Y’all are cool af, ngl
+1 for having a Municipal Waste shirt on 💪🏼
What it should be called is just car culture for everybody
Yes and no, because people make different builds to pursue different purposes is it car culture? Yes, but does it have a specific build? Also yes. From drag racing, drifting, auto cross, time attack, rally, and even stance. Car enthusiasts build cannot just be listed as "car culture" because they will certainly tell you different.
its just when people do dumb shit to their cars that doesnt improve them it hurts the scene......stance,donks,mall crawler 4x4's are all hideous and annoying
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 It only hurts that particular 'section' of the 'scene'/culture.
1:42 "wreak" havoc lol
A little bit of history I think ya'll might like, is that the game Midnight Club pays homage to a car gang from Japan known as the Mid Night Club, who raced on the Wangan from '87 to '99. The Japanese lettering in the title also says Wangan in Kanji. The makers of the game, Rockstar Games, rented Times Square in NYC to capture the cover art for the game. This was all happening as the tuner scene was really taking off in America. Tuning cars has been going on for about as long as racing cars have. People all over the world have done it, but when we're talking about the tuner scene, we're associating it to the import scene in America as a trend that carried over from illegal street racing gangs in '90s Japan.
I heard the term "battle areo" used for the stance boi car with all the track parts and i think it sums it up pretty nicely. I used to hate stanced cars but vip cars changed my mind. There is just something about a bagged ls400 i cant get enough of.
A guy who will charge you an arm and a leg while not being liable for anything they do.
Lmaoo i feel you. But i usually do the tune with them and ride around with them to see if they like it. If they dont i can revert it very easily.
No, they can be held liable. You just need to know the law be and be careful. My tuner fully fucked me so I sued them and won because they are scum (not all tuners, maybe most). No, I did not get all I was entitled to but I was not as careful as I should have been.
Anyhow, I don't disagree with you I just encourage people to stand up to white collar scum bags.
BRIAN STEVENS Where’d you tune your car? Expose those shitbags so that more and more people could be aware of the bad tuners.
Kevin Norris is there such thing as bad advertisement. Some times I think I'm better off not getting there name out. Any how it was Bren in Ma. The tune itself was ok. But for everything else he was a clueless hack and shamelessly lies to my face. He supposed to be an expert on my 2005 WRX but he was clueless for sure. Several tries and he could not even fix something as simple as power steering. He left dents in my car. He kept breaking my abs tone ring on like 3 axles. I'm sure I'm leaving stuff out. He also has a real smug attitude. Oh, and mechanics always say how nice my cat is and I take care of it all he says is rusty bolt rusty bolt so he can up charge.
Truly the wosrt buying experience in my life.
I did win my case however I did not get all what I should have.
Thanks for asking homie,
Have a great night.
We watched this and all a tuner really means is “cool”
wait so Stephan Papadakis used to have hair?
Car noob here but since I had to scrap my first car, I took an interest in all the components and tuning scene since:
1. I've already done everything from bungie jumping to skydiving and enjoy thrills. I'd love to try a proper drag race with my daily with enough practice.
2. I like having a slightly more distinct look than everyone else.
Would it be better to buy a pricier car with more HP or just tune a 💩box (cost-effectively)?
Wheelhouse is a painfully good name for such a series
but they are hurting me, there hurting my eyes
Ikr
I honestly thought that tuners got their name because they could "tune" their cars with computers while muscle cars would tune with mechanical skills with carburators.
That's what I always thought, someone that modifies and tunes cars. I figure more emphasis on the specific tuning of said car.
Maybe in about 2045 we'll have Teslas being tuned via computer.
@@xxxod you could tune cars using a computer 20 years ago. It's called ECU tuning
Drifting, drag racing and time attack are not types of tuning but forms of motorsport.
Wheelhouse suggestion - How to buy a car. Cover topics such as insurance, fees, steps to take at the bank. What is "as is?" Recommend from a dealer or private sale? New or used? Finance or lease?
Honda’s are so dope. They’re cheap, underestimated, and have huge potential. My friend has one with a big turbo, NOS, and a fully built engine, and it puts 325+ HP down easy. It’s so light it just smokes anything. Muscle cars always harass him and then he leaves them in the dust no problem. It’s nice to see some respect put on the brand.
"if they arent hurting you or others, then leave them alone" hell yeah
Papadakis name is stephanos not steven...he has shortened it to stephen!! Not mad btw!
dont request any up to speed episodes except for pumphrey's dad - let's make it happen!
Tuning is LITERALLY making harmonious music inside an engine! Each power pulse must have a perfect pathway unimpeded, in a perfect dance with each and every other power pulse, from infancy when they are not one unit, but a volume of air here, and a squirt of fuel there all needing a perfect and easy pathway to the perfect marriage under pressure (the Big Bang)! Then when they are one and perfected, the exit must be perfect and loudly announce that their song is over!
i think a tuner car is a car that natural just wants to go fast and be modified, normally w a great engine and chasse, and a tuned car is a car that’s modified for performance over looks even if it’s just a intake sway bars and coils, i would consider that a tuner car because it’s focoused around performance
Whatever you’re into, I think we can all agree that...stance cars suck.
jjrock5 Especially “stance nation”
Just wait until a stanced car drives too fast and its breaking is insufficiant due to camber and kills your children, then they are harmful.
Yeah, it's ok up to an extent but 40-45°??? Seriously!!! Let's just ignore them.
He even said they have a small contact patch in the video, yet still defends them. And adding super stretched tires to the mix makes them even less safe on the road.
Good thing they can't go fast
They never go fast, it's not their purpose to go fast they just want the look, else they would modify it like a track car
Freeway speeds is fast enough for bad shit to happen.
Stance is dumb as hell. It doesn't look cool and it makes the car unsafe to drive.
Absolutely love the Municipal Waste shirt. Opened up for those guys when I played in a band called *Fear Verona* good times👍
This video really made me nostalgic about the car scene in the late 90s and 2000s. I was able to buy my own tuner car and was saw first hand with my own eyes how the tuner culture split in to different sub-genres in the mid-2000s. I personally aligned myself with the autocross/time attack/track day scene, while some of my friends wholeheartedly embraced the stance scene. None of us gravitated toward the show-drift scene because of how expensive it is to keep a shitbox, ratty drift car up and running.
Static stance will always look stupid to me. I will crack jokes about you and your car, not in a mean spirited way. If you get upset by it then to me you don't have enough confidence to even be driving that car.
Nice..
You can lowered your car but atleast make it functional like the formula drift car or touring car. They are both lowered and still looks nice
Zephyr KDS1 Nah
Or simply wait til you can afford air suspension. Stanced looks when still, and perfectly drivable in motion.
like hopefully the gas tax doesn't increase cause the asphalt's getting scraped up, like man we just paved this block and now that unibody done did spatula'd it all up to heck, grindin' all kinds of bumper plastic flakes in between the cracks, rubbin' all kinds of fender well debris up in here, ain't nobody got time fo' that, shootin' Sparcos up from the dangle do diddly muffler pipes, Smokey the bear's not happy, i see the Michelin man put on his Goodyear sneakers today, stompin' out this mess.
Cars are like women:
-We love em
-We make em looks good
-We take care of them
And most importantly,
We _"Ride"_ them ✌️😂
(sorry I can't hold it 🤣)
In My Opinion Tuner Is: Are The People Who Can Modify Their Car And Nothing Else
You again !
That reminds me, I need to penetrate a fart can with my fist, before it goes on my Civic.
tuner:someone who mods thier car to perform BETTER than before,not worse......stanced cars are rice,donk cars are rice,lambo doored cars are rice
I will finish college one day damnit!
But for now, cars first....
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 stance is not rice.....
5:54 did not expect a new edge mustang that's sick
I think most ppl will call jdm, beamers (not the most luxury, expensive and superclass like bmw's, but more like older m4's etc), mid-class sports cars, and older sleeper cars tuners
I still remember the HKS CT230R & TRB-02,
Both with HKS Hypermax livery,also JUN Lemon series.Both series was born for TA as well.
LOL the end example pretty much describes my civic. 500 horses and I time attack it, but i drive it to the local car meet on thursdays and i slam the coilovers and crank the camber kits just to trigger people. Besides im pretty about the "Hard Parking" looks sick and i dont street race, local track is cheap and open till midnight.
so no ones gonna talk about that clean bunny hop off the ledge @2:29
Stephan Papadakis was the man! Really enjoyed seeing him and his car in the magazines back in the day.
Counter intuitively contact patch doesn't effect grip, a smaller patch means more wear, more heat and more chance of breaking traction on a wet leaf
This episode makes me want to save my money and buy a tuner when I get back from my year tour in Korea. Thanks Nolan all of you at donut inspire me.
I like all the things you went over they are all cool in their own respective ways and camber can be a performance upgrade for drift and track and style
Tuner: upgrading/modifying your car with performance parts and then having to have it tuned to optimize said parts for street use. Any specific style is it's own class of car as in drift/stance/drag/time attack.
I can’t believe this whole video didn’t talk about the jdm tuner scene. The late 90s early 00s where the focus was getting the best parts from Japan for your car
I have always been part of the Group B guys! Rally is a way life! Speed bump, no problem! We fly over anything faster than stance bois! At least I'm not the one getting honked at for not getting over the speed bump!
I thought this video would answer my question but it was still fun to watch
When Nolan tells you to be nice, you actually have the feeling "You know what? I am gonna be nice today" xD
You boys need to get your hands on a Barra Turbo engine (steel block) from an Aussie Ford Falcon, those engines are absolute beasts after being tuned.
Nolan, I like your Dad's videos better but you are keeping me watching. I will say that I like how you enforce, that no matter what we all do to our rides, they should all be respected. If ya don't like something, shut it! Good to see that promoted nowadays. Cheers to another good episode and thanks for making me feel old.
FYI - "Tuner" to me will always be import/Honda related as that is what I saw when it was prevalent. But, the term in general is certainly applicable to all things "tuned" on vehicles. So I get it.
We love you Nolan, less screentime then others but still my favorite donut member !!
Another great episode, very cool of you to take someone from the 'Merican Muscle Car world to cover this not someone who grew up on it. Great to have a semi outside perspective. On a side note...hard to believe we now have an entire generation of "Car Presenters" who were toddlers when F&F hit theaters... man time flies!