Travelling through Pakistan; from Karachi to K2 - Salman Rashid on Pakistan's Identity -
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Salman Rashid is a Travel writer and a Fellow of Royal Geographical Society.
Salman Rashid comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Arabization of Pakistan, Pakistan's Identity Crisis, Ranjit Singh, Pakistan before Zia-ul-Haq, Mustansar Hussain Tarrar, Balochistan, Karachi, K2 and Lahore after Partition.
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Chapters
0:00 Arabization of Names
9:30 Pakistan’s Identity Crisis and the role of British Colonialism
17:30 Ranjit Singh and old Empires in India
25:30 India and the history of hatred in Pakistan
32:44 Pre Zia Pakistan and Bengal
40:00 Quaid-e-Azam and Liaquat Ali Khan
45:00 Mustansar Hussain Tarrar should not be a travel writer
49:30 British mapping and writing
54:00 Love for Travel Writing and Ranikot
1:05:00 Hillpark and Karachi
1:10:00 Religiosity and fake piety during Zia-ul-Haq’s era
1:15:00 Urdu, Persian, Languages and Dialects
1:19:00 Things to see in Balochistan
1:23:30 King Porus, Alexander the Great and Mandi Bahauddin
1:28:40 Hindu contribution to Lahore and Partition
1:38:00 Audience Questions 
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We all Pakistanis are having Indian ethnicity except some Pakistanis like Hasan Nisar, bcz Arab Sheikhs used to visit to his home.❤🇵🇰
Lol
😂😂😂
Bro u went so hard 😂😂😂
@@naturesdesk. Hmm… He says, our DNA is pure and pious and related from Arab.😂
As a Bharatiya I would say come back to your relegion Ghar wapsi kar lo😂😂
As a Pakistani I feel so good when i realize that there are people in my country who are not brainwashed.
Otherwise i feel so lonely...
The more educated you will get the more you will get towards the light of knowledge from this funnel of ignorance,,, and then you will find your self who you really were
It’s pretty lonely outside the box 📦
pakistans worst enemies are those orthodox extremists islamist who spread hate towards non muslims..
India (Republic of India) didn't exist before 1947. Italy didn't exist before 1860. Turkey didn't exist before 1922, Germany didn't exist before 1871, Saudi Arabia didn't exist before 1932 and so on. Concept of Countries was invented in Europe in the 18th century. Before the invention of the concept of countries, there were only empires and kingdoms everywhere around world. Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Denmark, Poland, Switzerland, Slovenia, Netherlands, lechesiten etc were created after fall of Holy Roman empire and subsequent kingdoms in Europe.
After the fall of the Ottomans empire in 1922, many countries were created based on their nationalities.Saudi Arabia didn't exist When Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca.Turkey was created in 1923 and Saudi Arabia was created in 1932 after the fall of Ottomans Empire in 1922. Europe and Middle East was united under various empires and kingdoms for most of the history just like India. India was the name for the region east to river Indus. It was never a country before 1947 but a region or subcontinent where various empires and kingdoms existed just like in Europe, Middle East or other parts and continents of world.
Now the question is what is nation and nationality? A nation is a society that shares a common language, culture, and history and has shared interests. For example English, German, Italian, Turkish, French, Russian, Dutch, Spanish, Arabs, Persian, Kurds, Japanese, Korean, Punjabi, kashmiri, Marathi, Bengali, Tamil, Malyalam, Thai etc are nations and a country based on single nation or nationality or where a single nationality dominates culturally, politically, in economy and military is called a nation state. Most countries in Europe or 'civilised world' are based on single nationalities and are nation states or simply called nations.
There are dozens of nations within India and Pakistan. And hence India and Pakistan are union of nations or multinational countries. Nations are Punjab, Kashmir, sindh, Baluchistan, Gujarat, Bengal, Maharashtra, Tamilnadu etc. And in modern civilised world countries are created on basis of nationality like the countries in Europe (England, France, Germany, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Croatia etc) or in Asia (Korea, Japan, China,Thailand, Philippines etc) and Bangladesh etc are countries based on nationalities.
Among the 650 major nations in the world, the nations in the union of India are one of the largest nations in the world. After Han Chinese Mandrain, Spanish, Anglo Saxons English, and Arabic
Bengali - world's 5th largest nationality
Punjabi- 10th largest nationality in world
Marathi- 13th largest nationality in world
Hindustani- 14th largest
Telugu- 15th largest nationality
Tamil- 17th largest nationality in world
Gujarati- 24th largest nationality in world
Bhojpuri- 25th largest
Kannada- 29thth largest
Malyalam- 30th largest
Oriya- 32nd largest
Maithili- 40th largest
Awadhi- 46th largest
Assamese- 65th largest
Haryanvi, Marwari, Magahi, Deccan, etc in top 100 nationalities of world.
(Hindi, Urdu are not nationalities but artificial languages developed from Hindustani language and imposed on some nations in some regions, with only few native speakers. These regions have their own nationalities and languages. Hindustani is a nationality in western Uttar pradesh with Hindustani as native language).
Republic of India was created in 1947 out of the British Indian empire on the basis of two nations bogus theory. Two nations were assumed as Islam and hindusim. But in reality, Islam and Hinduism are not nations. India and Pakistan were not created based on nationalities but on two nation (Islam Hinduism) bogus theory. Hence, these countries are based on religions. On the other hand, Bangladesh is a nation state which was created on the basis of Bangla nationality in 1971 (5th biggest nationality in world). British empire changed ownership rights in 1947
Three predominant civilisations in Republic of India, Indo Aryans, Dravidian and Sino Tibetic ( North East nations in the Republic of India) don't share anything although the first two civilisations share religion hence religion is the biggest binding force of the country followed by Military Power which is used to occupy non Hindu nations (Punjab, Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya) with the country. Most of Hindus in Indian subcontinent prefer religion over their nationalities unlike muslims (Kashmiri, Bangla, Baluch, Sindhi, Pashto) who identify themselves with their nationalities and even support nation states like Bangladesh.
According to research, Higher ethnic or national diversity within a country negatively affects economic growth through conflict between interests of various nations or ethnicities (Don't confuse the ethnic or national diversity with the multiculturalism in west due to migration, the migrants mix with diverse society and become part of nationality of the host country and work for the interests of the dominant nationality).
High 'nationality or ethnic' Diversity correlates with low GDP per capita.
Strong democracy correlates with ethnic or national homogeneity.
Punjab and Kashmir should be a free countries based on Punjabi and Kashmiri nationalities like Bangladesh. But Hindu Punjabis, Hindu Kashmiris and Muslim Punjabi don't want to leave unions of india and Pakistan, so Punjabi Sikhs, or Kashmiri muslims can't force them to follow to support the idea of Nation-States. Hindu Punjabis, who had deserted Punjabi language in 1951 and 1961 census by declaring Hindi as their mother tongue would never support a Punjabi nation state. They support a Indian state based on the Hindu religion. Similarly, Punjabi Muslims of Pakistan dont support Punjabi nation state either. They support Pakistan state that is based on Islam religion.
Similarly, Bengali Hindus and Kashmiri Hindus don't support Bangla nation state Bangladesh and Azad Kashmir and want to live in India which is based on Hinduism. So Punjabi muslims, Punjabi Hindus, Kashmiri Hindus and Bengali Hindus are free to stay in their respective countries based on religions. But similar to Bangla Muslims of East Pakistan, who created Bangla nation state Bangladesh without Indian Bengali Hindus, Sikhs have the right to create Azad Punjab (a Punjabi nation state) without Punjabi Hindus and Punjabi Muslims (and Azad Kashmir without Kashmiri Hindus). As simple as that.
We Punjabi Sikhs have no problem living in a Punjabi Muslims or Punjabi Hindu majority Punjabi nation state but non Sikh Punjabis don't support idea of nation-state unlike modern civilised world but a state based on religion.
The Punjabi speaker population of Muslims is around 10 crore. Punjabi speaking population of Hindus is around 3 crore (Punjabi Hindus in Punjab, Himchal, Haryana, Jammu and Delhi). Punjabi speaker Sikh population is around 2 crore. Hence Sikhs would be minority if both Punjabi muslims and Hindus or either one of them come form a Punjabi nation state with us Sikhs. We Sikhs have no problem living as minority in Punjabi nation state among majority Punjabi muslims and Punjabi Hindus, But their radicals minds prefer religion over their nationality and they love to give up their Punjabi nationality and adopt Hindi and Urdu nationality in order to create a state based on their respective religions.
So when Sikhs alone form a Punjabi nation state, it would automatically be a Sikh majority Punjabi nation state called Khalistan. What's in the name? We are open to change the name and keep it Punjab instead of Khalistan and also write the word secular state in constitution because it wouldn't change anything in practice. In practice it would still be Khalistan just like India is a Hindu rashtra in practice regardless of its official name or regardless of its constitution..
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@@SatpalVerma000 good explanation....
I am an Indian and a practising Hindu. When I hear Salman Rashid ji and similar intellectuals from Pakistan, I feel happier about the fact that Indians and Pakistani have the same origin and feel the pain of what many had to go through in their family across generations and also are going through even now, including the existential matters of Identity etc.
He is falsely accusing british of divide. Sir Syyed coined two nation theory in 1886 long before British even knew it. Barely 30 years i.e. 1 generation after 1st resistance of independence in 1857.
Muslim league won with 90%+ votes. So result is clear seeing that we can never stay with muslims unless they close madrassa and give up quran brain washing accept hindu roots and be clear that Aurangzeb and rulers like him were invader and evil and are villian.
DO NOT BE SO NAIVE ELSE YOU AND ME WILL GET $LAUGHT€R AGAIN. HISTORY REPEATS.
why do you feel bad for them? They chose to be in an i$Lamictal republic
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351 thats because of propaganda and indoctrination, many young pakistanis ive met are getting out of that
@@yuritardid7761 lol still the critical mass is radical
@trilokyamohanchakra6351 vaise hi jaise tumko ab lollipop 🍭diya hai aakhand bharat vgera ka yahi lollipop 🍭humko diya gya thaa humko ab smjh aaya tum bhi smjh jayoge time lgega
as an Indian, I have longed to hear a Pakistani perspective on our shared history and culture. This was a true gem of an episode by Shehzad. Mr Rashid's perspectives were an eye opener on identity, nationalism and religion in Pakistan. Hoping the discourse gets wider.
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Surprising but happy to see that there are still people in Pakistan having guts to speak truth 👍
It’s not surprising! Pakistanis are the real and original Indian people. Both Mohenjo-daro and Harappa civilisation were in present day Pakistan too. The people who live in todays India they are not original Indian, they either came from African continent, Madagascar these type of places.
@@truthteller1633 You are more primitive than the first ape in Madagascar.
@@truthteller1633😂what a joke
@@truthteller1633you people just changed the religion by fear and we Hindu's gave a part of land which belongs to us....
You ppl can't develope cuz ur taughts are based on destruction n hate as you ppl follow islam...
Ye bahut galat hai ki indian muslim aur Hindu ek sath nhi rh skte hai, vo log sath rhe hai aur rhte the ge, because these people are converted hindus aur unka culture aaj bhi bhai chare wala hai, vo hinduon ki festival celebrate krte hai aur hindu unke, problem aati hai in Islam, ye baat log samjh nhi rhe hai ki Islam me aisa likha hua hai ki aap non muslim k sath ache se nhi rh skte, non muslims ko jajiya dena pde ga, apko non muslims ko muslman bnana hai, aap unke mandir ka parshad bhi nhi le sakte, ye problem Islam ki kattarta. Muslam khud nhi jante that islaam is against humanity, it is by muslim only for Muslims usme kafiro ki koi jgah nhi hai, ispke koi baat nhi hoti, hinduo k mamdir is liye nhi tode gye the ki hindu ne muslamo pe koi hatyachar kiya nhi bhai vo shaanti se apna kaam kr rhe the fir bhi unki mandir tode gye, unki maa bhno ko utha k le jaya gya, thanks to Peace full Islam. 😊
I am a Saraiki speaking Hindu from Bharat 🇮🇳.
My Wife is Sindhi speaking Hindu...
My Ancestors are from Quetta, Balochistan.
Our Relatives are still living in Dalbandi, Quetta and Noshki areas of Balochistan.
Jai Shri Ram 🙏.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳💪
Sunil ji, ab aap kahaan settle ho Bharat me?
@NoName-sl6du Why did your elders flee their ancestral homes ?
@@NoName-sl6du So your elders took the cowardly way out...Very convenient!!!
@@rizwanhussain645 just because you didn't have to move out, you are cowardly able to say that. My uncle was killed in 1947 by one of your Islamist Dada-jaan. By the way, hell lots of your Muslims fellows came from United India to Pakistan. And, to add to your ignorance - what do you do to Hindu Silkh girls in Pakistan since 1947 - you abduct them when they are still of minor age and forcibly convert to Satanic cult of Islam. Just because I am nice doesn't mean I got no teeth.
@@rizwanhussain645 it was biggest massacre in modern human history that has not been well documented. Millions of people from Punjab, Bengal were displaced, murdered.
Your military dictator Parvez Musharraf was also born in Delhi , so as per your definition - you guys let a coward rule your country.
As an Indian Muslim my blood spills whenever i hear someone talking about Jinna or two nation theory bogus idea... I don't know what Jinna saw which persuaded him towards the catastrophic conclusion " the partition"...I think the main reason would have been that jinna wanted india to be federal but Congress wanted unitary government... "Pakistan" a country made in the name of Islam based on the idea of separation because of religion which is unislamic... It doesn't mean i hate people of Pakistan, of course not, i love them, we all human beings are brothers and sisters...
Ofcourse you'll love them as belong from same religion and your family members don't die in border so Pakistanis you brother and sister and you one of them but eating our food enjoying our resources
@@sujata8944 pardon me sister! When did I eat your food? Have we met?
Food is food lady@@zeeshanhasan2618
@@sujata8944 behen tu nashe karne chhod De WhatsApp university ke
@@Enfield-Forever lol, whatsapp university ka acceptance rate 100%, thake bas idiot apply karthe hai lol
Well done for speaking out on the hard hitting truths. I’m Sikh Punjabi myself but I have many Pakistani Punjabi friends here in the UK who agree with you that their maa boli is Punjabi and the urduization needs to stop. It’s also very true that other Muslim countries haven’t changed their culture, language and face identify crises so why should you. Be proud of who you are. Speak your maa boli whatever that is. Don’t look down on people but don’t have an inferiority complex either !
First time I have heard a Punjabi Muslim and also an ex Army Officer speaking so much truth. My Grandfather passed his metric from Lahore and used to say that the complete model town and all the shops in Anar kali were owned by Hindus and Sikhs, still Pakistanis say we were the owners of Lahore.
Lahore was Muslim majority 64%.
But majority business owners were Hindus. Model Town was the most elite housing society at the time of partition and there was not a single Muslim land owner there. Majority Muslims were poor. That's why they started looting after the partition. Because they didn't have anything. Muslims of Indian Punjab suffered greatly due to the deads of Pakistani Punjabi Muslims. Who looted Hindus and killed Sikhs. Robbing them of everything what they had. As a result same thing was done to Muslims of Indian Punjab. Those who had nothing, got everything and those who had everything were robbed to nothing.
there are Gupta Punjabis?
@@nitishsaxena1372 yes there are many Mahajan/Gupta Punjabis however I am a Jammu Pahadi with origins in POK.
Same thing happened in Bengali hindu in East Pakistan Or Bangladesh.
@@MohitGupta-pv2fdThank you for confirming the fact as Muslims Community of Lahore and around Lahore were filthy poor. Huge majority did not own much, majority were "kami kameen". But still why and how, in your case Lahore become part of Pakistan as it owned by minority non muslims back in days. So the reason was the majority of the population lived in this "tehsil" where Lahore was located were Muslims majority. The formula of division was not based on who owned what, the division formula was population of community on "tehsil" level, which community in majority lived in the tehsil. Otherwise if we take your argument true the entire old Delhi owned by Muslims as for your formula the dehli should be part of Pakistan. The whole "Gurgaon" now part of "new Delhi" once used to be owned by my grandparents should it be part of Pakistan?? Liaqat Ali Khan was owner of huge chunk of east Punjab. Nawab Patoodi owned huge part of Punjab 😅😅 so you better learn history and find out what was the formula of division that was implemented for division methodology that they agreed upon, although (Radcliffe of Mountbatten team) did not 100% implemented the formula as is, as many Muslim majority "tehsils" at the last moment got merged under pressure with India, i.e the region next to Kartarpur, Gurdaspur tehsil on the left bank of River Ravi was Muslim majority Tehsil at the last moment got managed to merge with India. If Master Tara Singh listened the voices, Punjab wouldn't have been divided at all. Back in days Sikh purbandh committee chairman (head) was Master Tara Singh who decided to merged the east punjab with India, and that happened, and the same Master Tara Singh after a year of freedom in 1948 raised slogan of independent Punjab in the Indian assembly. Upon that Mr. Nehru responded him ... Master Tara Singh it is too late now..
Im a punjabi from pakistan and it pains me that we dont know about our glorious history. The rigveda was written in punjab, we played a crucial role in spreading buddhism to central asia. Also our language is much older than urdu yet we have this inferiority complex towards this language. Religious extremism and the creation of pakistan truly destroyed punjabi culture.
buddhism was much more better than religion of snobby arabs
@@bablubaban008 He is saying they rigveda was written in panjab not Panjabi,,
Urdu itself is basically Hindi with some additional persian Arabic words.
@@bablubaban008 Urdu is the language of Indian City Lucknow.
@@pankajsrivastava8191 yes I know. I'm talking about how it is made
It's difficult to express how much emotion do Indians have for the land in Pakistan. Entire Pakistan is our heritage site! Keep in mind Pakistan and Pakistani are two different things. Pakistan will have a lot to gain by Indian tourism, just as countries like Nepal, Bhutan, SriLanka, Thailand... are virtually financed by Indian tourism.
For this Pakistanis have to b pragmatic and reconstruct the destroyed constructions as heritage sites. No one is asking them to change their religion but should stop their islamic rhetorism as lucidly explained by Salman Rashid ji in this video.
They should create an environment for tourism on the lines of Indonesia.
Alexander ko Raja poras ne defeat kia tha
Modi hain toh mumkin hain lol !
What a great podcast. Kudos to Sir Salman Rashid 👏🏻 Love from India 🇮🇳
I’m a proud Pakistani, my heart and soul belongs to my beautiful city Lahore, however, whenever we discuss such topics I always proudly claim that my grandmother was from old Delhi, and we as a family have indian blood and ethnicity.
Do you even know the difference between ethnicity and nationality and identity and blood? 😂 Like Your ethnicity is Punjabi, your Nationality is Pakistani and ur blood is what your ethnicity is. How come you are an Indian now? When you were born in Pakistan? Punjabis to yahan bhi hein. Who was living here even before 1947. What's new? Ab agr religion pe aana ha to ghabrao nai...go and accept your BLOOD RELIGION if that's hinduism? Why are you ashamed of that?
Not only as a family only but as region, almost every community residing from kabul to northern Myanmar have 1/3rd to 2/3rd ancestry direct from the Indus valley people.
The scions of ivc are indians
@@huzifavesosPunjab is also located(inside) indian subcontinent
Not just ur grandmother but also ur grandfather and great grandfather belong to India.
Apki ragho me hinduo ka khun he bhai , isliye arab wale humari ijjat nhi krtey
As an Indian , I can feel the pain of fellow Pakistanis , whose ancestors must’ve faced brutal conversions . Pakistan is the land of Indus civilization, and the day they start taking pride in that reality, their future will change forever .
But they don’t realize that they were brutally converted and they further force convert more minorities and feel pride in that . That is the Sad part. That is what taking them to self destruction
Arae bhai kiyun jale par namak chhidak rahe ho. Bechare Paki itani badi galati kar chukae hain ki isko Kabul karna utnaa hi mushikal hai jaise saamp ke munh me koarrh kirali. Na nigalate ban raha hai naa hi chhod sakate hain. Pahale conversion karwa kar deen heen ho chukae hain upar se gair kudaratI geographical partition. Naa dimaag mein kuchh bachaa aur naa hi pait mein daalne ke liye.
FAKEstan was created by Bengalis and discarded by Bengalis
Lot of hindus in this area stil resisted conversion. They accept secondary citizenship & paying tax & becoming a little poorer than his neighbourhood but kept his dignity & some died protecting their ancestral identity. We have to not forget their resilience & respect their convictions towards their self dignity.
People accepted Islam by their own free will. Nobody can force you in the name of ghar wapasi scheme until you have to choose bw life and death at the hands of RSS+BJP+Bajrang dal+VHP+ cow brigades +Sri raam sloganeers etc
I'm a Muslim Hindu as u just said in ur podcast I was so fascinated by that thought so I adopted the idea of calling myself a Muslim Hindu henceforth. Being born in India post partition deeply grieve on partition. Sir ur interview with respected sir Salman Rashid was at par excellence. It was a pleasure to hear him and know his thoughts.i wish we have many more ppl like him. We don't need ppl who divide us on the basis of religion.
I am from India and heard your complete conversation. It was wonderful and really an eye opener interview. It does reminds us of our common culture and heritage. Religion on both sides is spoiling the beauty of this remarkable region. ❤❤❤
Bhai, we never say "we will drive away Muslims from India". We say that "we will not accept those who comes into our land illegally & take up false identities."
Anyone is welcome into our country who can live in peace & let others live in peace.
This is the level of intellect. He don't even know what CAA is all about inspite of being educated and still wants to lecture Indians on secularism.😂
Well muslims should've been driven away... Otherwise religion ke naam pe country divide krne ka koi fayda hi nhi hua
@@sangramsingh7747this is the problem with people like you,all others are lier but only Hindus are intelligent and know all history of india and the world 😂😂!
@@Shoaib7778 I am not telling that I know everything adamantly. I have just highlighted the mindset of the people like vloger who want to speak about the CAA without knowing the facts and correlating with other issues which are totally altogether different.
@@sangramsingh7747 bro pakistani ek jahil koom hai. bas inn ke maja lo. or kush raho. inn ko kuch samjana ke jarurat nai hai.
I’m a Naru Rajput From Faislabad and my ancestors came from Hushiarpur in india either way I’m proud of who I am and need no arab or Turks stupid identity to feel better about myself.
Be who you are
Very few PPL are there in Pakistan like u. Otherwise everyone is convinced the invaders invaded India and not the area of Pakistan at that time ruled by Sikhs Hindus sindhis etc.
din tak to thik hai...apne purkho nam to use hi kar sakte ho
Yes, dear yes,, BIKANER derives it's suffix NER from NARU,, really TOP BRAVE RAJPUTS,, THEY DIDN'T HAD A SINGLE SWORD WHICH DIDN'T KILLED ANY MUSLIM INVADER, ""NAARU TURKI KHARU"",, TRUTH,,,, I M A RAJPUT & RESPECT NARU RAJPUTS ,, they lost the lust after forceful conversion,, respect your DNA from the roots of my heart,, ❤
I am also a Hindu Sisodia Rajput from the lineage of Maharana Pratap and can confirm that you are SX save convert who choose to lay down weapon and surrendered to Arab and its dirty cult leader to save his life .The disgrace which Muhamad talked about "chain them by neck dragged ,till they embrace I$lam " ,Refer Bukhari 4557 .You are a disgrace never ever call yourself a Rajput again and when today you lift your @$$ like a slave remember the real Rajput choose death over disgrace and performed Johar but never submitted to Arab cult leader called Muhammad or who said @llah asked to R@pe helpless women in Q-ran (33:50) .
I would say respect your roots.. rather accept your roots... the Pakistanis are not culturally Muslims... their Sanatan Dharmi roots or Hindu roots are far more ancient. Whether they want to show it or not. Sadly, with the level of education and compared with the radicalism, I doubt the intellectual level of the people there. There can be no hope for these people who are the darkness themselves.
They forget that the women in their ancestral line were raped... men humiliated and these are indirectly products of this evil acts.. compounded with the eating of meat, cruelty to animals and people of other faiths, beastiality ... this community will get their due from Karma... their kids too will inherit this curse... add the illogical hatred fed into this horrible population... and the results of consangine marriages.. kids with horrific genetic defects...
May they reach their doom very soon and offer the world much needed relief. Not respected wherever they go...
I am an proud Indian of 80 years old. From my very childhood, I was leftist as well as secular by nature and obviously was anti Modi. But after analyzing 10 years of rule of Modi, I feel I was wrong to analyze Modi earlier.
I have enjoyed your discussion eagerly. Thanks a lot.
One of the most beautifully profound and intellectually honest interviews I've ever seen in my life. I wish people on both oir nations were this honest.
This is the first time I am watching any episode from Pakistan but I am happy to see that even in Pakistan there are some people who have dare to speak candidly.❤
4:39 par islam mein katwana compulsion hain😂😂😂
India (Republic of India) didn't exist before 1947. Italy didn't exist before 1860. Turkey didn't exist before 1922, Germany didn't exist before 1871, Saudi Arabia didn't exist before 1932 and so on. Concept of Countries was invented in Europe in the 18th century. Before the invention of the concept of countries, there were only empires and kingdoms everywhere around world. Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Denmark, Poland, Switzerland, Slovenia, Netherlands, lechesiten etc were created after fall of Holy Roman empire and subsequent kingdoms in Europe.
After the fall of the Ottomans empire in 1922, many countries were created based on their nationalities.Saudi Arabia didn't exist When Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca.Turkey was created in 1923 and Saudi Arabia was created in 1932 after the fall of Ottomans Empire in 1922. Europe and Middle East was united under various empires and kingdoms for most of the history just like India. India was the name for the region east to river Indus. It was never a country before 1947 but a region or subcontinent where various empires and kingdoms existed just like in Europe, Middle East or other parts and continents of world.
Now the question is what is nation and nationality? A nation is a society that shares a common language, culture, and history and has shared interests. For example English, German, Italian, Turkish, French, Russian, Dutch, Spanish, Arabs, Persian, Kurds, Japanese, Korean, Punjabi, kashmiri, Marathi, Bengali, Tamil, Malyalam, Thai etc are nations and a country based on single nation or nationality or where a single nationality dominates culturally, politically, in economy and military is called a nation state. Most countries in Europe or 'civilised world' are based on single nationalities and are nation states or simply called nations.
There are dozens of nations within India and Pakistan. And hence India and Pakistan are union of nations or multinational countries. Nations are Punjab, Kashmir, sindh, Baluchistan, Gujarat, Bengal, Maharashtra, Tamilnadu etc. And in modern civilised world countries are created on basis of nationality like the countries in Europe (England, France, Germany, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Croatia etc) or in Asia (Korea, Japan, China,Thailand, Philippines etc) and Bangladesh etc are countries based on nationalities.
Among the 650 major nations in the world, the nations in the union of India are one of the largest nations in the world. After Han Chinese Mandrain, Spanish, Anglo Saxons English, and Arabic
Bengali - world's 5th largest nationality
Punjabi- 10th largest nationality in world
Marathi- 13th largest nationality in world
Hindustani- 14th largest
Telugu- 15th largest nationality
Tamil- 17th largest nationality in world
Gujarati- 24th largest nationality in world
Bhojpuri- 25th largest
Kannada- 29thth largest
Malyalam- 30th largest
Oriya- 32nd largest
Maithili- 40th largest
Awadhi- 46th largest
Assamese- 65th largest
Haryanvi, Marwari, Magahi, Deccan, etc in top 100 nationalities of world.
(Hindi, Urdu are not nationalities but artificial languages developed from Hindustani language and imposed on some nations in some regions, with only few native speakers. These regions have their own nationalities and languages. Hindustani is a nationality in western Uttar pradesh with Hindustani as native language).
Republic of India was created in 1947 out of the British Indian empire on the basis of two nations bogus theory. Two nations were assumed as Islam and hindusim. But in reality, Islam and Hinduism are not nations. India and Pakistan were not created based on nationalities but on two nation (Islam Hinduism) bogus theory. Hence, these countries are based on religions. On the other hand, Bangladesh is a nation state which was created on the basis of Bangla nationality in 1971 (5th biggest nationality in world). British empire changed ownership rights in 1947
Three predominant civilisations in Republic of India, Indo Aryans, Dravidian and Sino Tibetic ( North East nations in the Republic of India) don't share anything although the first two civilisations share religion hence religion is the biggest binding force of the country followed by Military Power which is used to occupy non Hindu nations (Punjab, Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya) with the country. Most of Hindus in Indian subcontinent prefer religion over their nationalities unlike muslims (Kashmiri, Bangla, Baluch, Sindhi, Pashto) who identify themselves with their nationalities and even support nation states like Bangladesh.
According to research, Higher ethnic or national diversity within a country negatively affects economic growth through conflict between interests of various nations or ethnicities (Don't confuse the ethnic or national diversity with the multiculturalism in west due to migration, the migrants mix with diverse society and become part of nationality of the host country and work for the interests of the dominant nationality).
High 'nationality or ethnic' Diversity correlates with low GDP per capita.
Strong democracy correlates with ethnic or national homogeneity.
Punjab and Kashmir should be a free countries based on Punjabi and Kashmiri nationalities like Bangladesh. But Hindu Punjabis, Hindu Kashmiris and Muslim Punjabi don't want to leave unions of india and Pakistan, so Punjabi Sikhs, or Kashmiri muslims can't force them to follow to support the idea of Nation-States. Hindu Punjabis, who had deserted Punjabi language in 1951 and 1961 census by declaring Hindi as their mother tongue would never support a Punjabi nation state. They support a Indian state based on the Hindu religion. Similarly, Punjabi Muslims of Pakistan dont support Punjabi nation state either. They support Pakistan state that is based on Islam religion.
Similarly, Bengali Hindus and Kashmiri Hindus don't support Bangla nation state Bangladesh and Azad Kashmir and want to live in India which is based on Hinduism. So Punjabi muslims, Punjabi Hindus, Kashmiri Hindus and Bengali Hindus are free to stay in their respective countries based on religions. But similar to Bangla Muslims of East Pakistan, who created Bangla nation state Bangladesh without Indian Bengali Hindus, Sikhs have the right to create Azad Punjab (a Punjabi nation state) without Punjabi Hindus and Punjabi Muslims (and Azad Kashmir without Kashmiri Hindus). As simple as that.
We Punjabi Sikhs have no problem living in a Punjabi Muslims or Punjabi Hindu majority Punjabi nation state but non Sikh Punjabis don't support idea of nation-state unlike modern civilised world but a state based on religion.
The Punjabi speaker population of Muslims is around 10 crore. Punjabi speaking population of Hindus is around 3 crore (Punjabi Hindus in Punjab, Himchal, Haryana, Jammu and Delhi). Punjabi speaker Sikh population is around 2 crore. Hence Sikhs would be minority if both Punjabi muslims and Hindus or either one of them come form a Punjabi nation state with us Sikhs. We Sikhs have no problem living as minority in Punjabi nation state among majority Punjabi muslims and Punjabi Hindus, But their radicals minds prefer religion over their nationality and they love to give up their Punjabi nationality and adopt Hindi and Urdu nationality in order to create a state based on their respective religions.
So when Sikhs alone form a Punjabi nation state, it would automatically be a Sikh majority Punjabi nation state called Khalistan. What's in the name? We are open to change the name and keep it Punjab instead of Khalistan and also write the word secular state in constitution because it wouldn't change anything in practice. In practice it would still be Khalistan just like India is a Hindu rashtra in practice regardless of its official name or regardless of its constitution..
Sadly conditions in India has become so bad that people here don’t speak truth freely.
@@mrsnow448that's the minority people n we don't care about them
@@SatpalVerma000Go and make Khalistan. & stop spreading fake propaganda in the name of nation and national identity, if national identity has any thing to do with religion and language then America, China, Canada, and Russia would not be the successfull nations. You just want to discriminate between Hindus and Muslims and Sikhs. Because no one in Punjab speaks Hindi, they all speak Punjabi as it is State language of Punjab. And if Hinduism had any anything to do with national Identity then Nepal would have been a part of India. Or I think you are saying that Only Punjabi Hindus and Muslims Have a tendency to go towards India and Pakistan, and If this is the case then you just need a therapist, since you are building a very communal mind set which is looking good at this moment but after some time you will realise you mistake. And if language would have been a very true national Identity then there would not be any civil war in countries like Myanmar, Afghanistan, Yemen. And Countries like North and South Korea would not have existed. Countries like Indonesia also have multiple ethnicities and are doing good. Now, if earlier there was no concept of nationalism and only Empire existed ,then now why we see countries/Nations like UK, France and Portugal which do have their overseas territories with no concept of language imposition on their territories and also UK's full name had Kingdom in it and there are a number of countries with Kingdom or Empire on their name and they also have their national identities (dispite differences).And now Comming to your last point, do you know there is a territory of France in South America named french Guyana, now if that country in future became independent then what it would be called??
Don't worry about India
Its ok
Hinduism is essentially accepting of good ideas
I have never before heard such a learned Pakistani. God bless you both. People like you are gems for any society.
My respect to Mr. Rashid. When he does not know something he comes out and says it outright. This is the halmark of a true intellectual and scholar.
But his knowledge abt Modiji , hindu moslem conflict, hindutva , CAA is misplaced nd are seen through western d some sold out indian journalists. Very unfortunate
@@Athirahindustani as someone who hasn't been here for a while I don't see the point.. par Haan.. you can just respect someone's opinion not agree and move on to listen to the amazing stuff he knows inside out.
Its a complete useless thing,
No identy crisis pak have..
Its build as an islamic democracy, and have islamic heroes doesn't matter whether they come from anywhere on earth...
@@nzm7993 yea I can agree with that. There is 2 types of Pakistanis, those who identify with their brothers in religion and those who identify with their brothers in blood.
@@m.aryaanamiri2755 real pakistani knows either by blood or by religion thier brothers are one who having both...
And rahi baat blood matching ki to wo impossible hai.. kyunke duniya ek mard aur aurat ke jode se paida hue hai to sabki blood line ek hi hai...
Islam, christ and jew - adam and eive
Sanatan - Manu and shatrupa..
Only names are different facts are same...
"उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम्। वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः।।"
This translates to:
"The country (varsha) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bharata; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."
Verse number - 2.3.1 Vishnu puran, Dated around more than 1000 bce
सत्यम्
Hmmm
1000 bce? bhai kitaab uthaake padhle
@@ratnadeepsharma964 bro, Dating of Vishnu puran varies from scholars to scholars , some date it as early as 400ce and some as long as more than
1000bce.
You might say rig Vedas are 1500bce but after finding of Mittani scripts and its sanskrit, Rig Vedas are estimated around not less than 3000 bce as Mittanis are itself 2000bce old.
The reasoning is simple, After Vedas , Purans were written down, and Purans means Ancient stories.
Order are this :-
vedas
Shabaas ab muslim log bhi padh lenge...
Sir this is the first time I have felt that someone has so deep understanding of today's politics and history of how everything developed after partition. I was little concerned when it was said that Indians might follow the same path of polarization as Pakistan...but the moment I heard that Indian middle class will not let secularism go away....I felt that this person knows so much...Sir
...respect from the bottom of my heart.
An incredible guest and conversation. THANK YOU!!!
India is basically whole subcontinent. When Portuguese come in goa surat they consider it india. When british come to Kolkata they consider it india. When greeks come Mauryan empire capital in patliputra they also consider as india.
And we proud that our ancestors come from indus valley❤❤❤
It used to be in medieval Western geography, a distinction about "India intra Gangem" and "India extra Gangem."
The first one is starting on the Indus Valley, crossing Ganges-Yamuna Plain, and including all around it. The second one starts after the mouth of the Ganges, and extending East and Southward, in lands which are known today as "South East Asia."
India is not a Subcontinent.... its a landmass half of Australia..... one seventh of Usa.. so stop supporting this narrative.
"India" was a Western construct, no doubt, but the subcontinent always had many kingdoms and the concept of India as one country emerged much later. "Bharat" was some land in UP, and it was not used as term for the entire continent until India's independence. Most ancestry countries DO NOT consider all Indians to be of one DNA group.
so what. you can seen this kind of thing everywhere. borders keep changing. you can't say that modern Egypt iand ancient egypt is same but still it is their legacy . as all indian kingdom in past is our ancestors not outsiders. meanwhile pakistanis praise outsiders. @@QabilAGhor
asia america china indonesia paksitan alll are western construct even world globe is also western terms@@QabilAGhor
This is the real truth. I am surprised at Mr. Salman Rashid's knowledge and his guts to deliver this in this time and age, especially while residing in Pakistan.
Why do you assume Pakistan is like North Korea where one does not have any freedom of speech. Even if there was a curb on speech, the law and order situation in Pakistan is so weak that the government wouldn't even be able to impose it correctly. Pakistanis are loud mouthed and say whatever they want, and now we don't spare our asshole military either.
An interesting and informative podcast with a candid discussion amidst knowledgeable people. Rarely seen today .
I am an Indian Athiest Hindu(Hinduism allows athistic thougts). Glad to see that Pak has intelect like Salman Rashid Sir. If more Pak people follow him then humanity will definitely have progress.
Howver sir your understanding of great Modiji is wrong.. He is permenent problem solver... He has taken India to next level of development and progress.. Greatest leader of modern time for India.. Religious extremism of few Indian Muslims within India couldnt be reduced until some hard decisions being made...
I am from India . My ancestors moved from Pakistan to India in 1947. Admire sir’s intellect and knowledge . I wish 50% Pakistan gets upto that level . That will make Pakistan get on right direction. God bless him . Overall a nice podcast 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You were forced to flee bcoz of muslims. No hindu voted partition nor they got any home in india like muslim did in pak occupiying hindu homes
Very good podcast. Academic 🙏
That will never happen..
So don't expect such things..
Make our country India/Bharat great..forget about rest
Some of your facts about india are distorted.unpartitioned India fought against Britishers unitedly.The INA is a example of that. Those patriot Muslim never left and are happy being Indians and following the constitution. But india do have Jaichands who are neither Hindus nor muslims and use religion as a weapon for the divide. The traitors who worked for the Britishers .Those who were intelligent never supported Britishers.
Pakistanis always supported the Britishers and indulged in cross border terrorism and land grabbing.POK is always a part of India. Pakistanis have thrown out every minority from their country. Temples in Pakistan are either closed or destroyed.
@@nikolc1270 in what world you are living ?? With this distorted history??
98% same patriotic Muslims voted for partition but not a single hindu voted for it.
And after partition only 5% muslims actually went there but they wiped out the entire hindu population!
Partition was a criminal joke from so called patriotic Muslims!
Even writer of "Sare jahan se acha hindustan" was also a pro partition person
My entire family had to flee but muslims flourished in both countries. Partition communal tension was one sided from Muslim community
Proud to be a Indian from pakistan 😊😊😊
Great veere
Maybe it is more accurate to say that you are a "Pakistani from India", that is the land of India = Bharatvarsha 🤔 ?
Gaddar spotted 😂.
"Woh tumhare jhukne seh khush the, lekin tumne toh unka 🦶🏽 hi chaat liya"
This is why liberandus are promoting gaddari....iss channel ke baare meh brigadier sahab meh bata dunga😗👏
Na to punjab India ka hissa tha na to pakistan ka ek alag desh tha Sikh Raaj Maharaja ranjit Singh ji ka itihaas uthakar dekh lena
@@sukhdevsingh4796
Paagal kahin ka...
This old man is genuine and knowledgeable...Yes India is also undergoing polarization and middle class is strong stop this extremism of this land called India.
The Pakistan experience, thank you so much for bringing such an amazing mind on the podcast! Love from an Indian in Australia!
What a legend he is. Mr. Salman Rashid. I started reading his travel articles since I was young in THE NEWS in Sunday's edition. My family and his family belongs to Jalandhar ❤.
Do you agree with what he says? That your ancestors are all pagan Hindus?
This identity crisis is so foreign for us living in rural Punjab of Pakistan. I have never seen a Sial or a Rajput say he's an Arab. Sials openly admit that their ancestors were Hindu/Sikhs. Why should we be ashamed of who we were and who we are.
थैंक्स ब्रदर
Sial is a Hindu 🚩 jat ajke Sikh or Muslim sial he sare Hindu 🚩 se convert hoke Sikh or Muslim bane he ye fact he
Converted traitors. Good.
Now a days sial subcaste found in other cast in North India.
@@demorvietraitor for changing religion? Its personal thing do how u like 👍
I am from India and I thank RUclips for bringing our countries youth together.
Podcasts like yours and Syed Muzammil and Junaid Akram are doing a phenomenal job opening up the world perspective for not just Pakistani but our Indian youth as well.
बहुत अच्छा डिस्कशन लगा। ऐसे सुलझे हुए जानकर को सुनकर आश्चर्य मिश्रित खुशी मिली है। आप दोनो को बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद
I am Punjabi hindu and i found salman rashdi book in my mom's library. She had masters in Punjabi Literature and she always used to advise me to read Him , Gulzar ( ravi Paar etc , ) , Khusro , Nanak Singh right up to Vriayam Singh Sandhu . My fav book till today is Sohan Singh Seetal's ' Tootan Wala Kooh ' .
SIkhs were always state beneficiaries and reason behind British colonization of South Asia. Ranjeet and Nalwa shalwa took British help guns bombs, tel;escopes and soldiers to attack Uzbek and Hazara regions of Afghanistan. Afghanistan doesn't;t have only Pathans. Within 7 years Pathans got together and kicked ranjeet back to Lahore. Nalwa was beheaded in Jamrod. Go visit Kandhar museum. You can see the soldier's clothes who came with Ranjeet Singh. There are British pants and dhotis of Sikhs and all British artillery. If Sikhs were able to put nath on Pathans then why were they not able to defeat British? Afghans/ Pathans didn't let British rule them. Khyberpkhtunkhawa was given in treaty and was never under fully control of British. Pathans never stopped attacking British. On the other hand SIkhs fully serviced British for over 120 years and opened up heera mandi to supply women to British. One can see the results of who put nath to whom if you see the British built stuff in Punjab, KPK and Afghanistan. There are no British built English schools, factories, mills, dams, bridges, hospitals, legal system, railways, cinemas, printing press, RAW/ISI in AFghanistan. Kisi aur ko jaa ker bewaqoof banae
Punjabis are not even 1% of India. Explain it to Jahil. Indus valley is heritage of Sindhis. The term India was coined by the Europeans just like they invented the name Africa. Hindus were people of Sindh aka Sindhis. Chandragupta Maurya was scythian Persian and didn't know what Hindu or India is. He always invaded ganga jamuna.
@@sabrinakhan8217😂😂😂 whatsapp university or Zia ul Haq' s Pakistani studies 😂😂 where did you did your this zombiefied studies 😂
@@sabrinakhan8217 chandragupta maurya was bihari asshole
This man does not like Pm Narendra Modi & that shows his real character. We are proud of our great leader, Narendra. He was our dream leader & we Indians have achieved to bring him to power to lead us & this man does not like the greatest Pm of our country. All Hindus shd be aware of of these people. After all we have nothing to do with Pakistanis especially the Punjabi Hindus, or else they will have to choose between India & their affinity towards the Pakistani punjabis. U may end up harming the interests of India under the influence of such people. Modi is God for us, he was elected indigenously. Indian voters came of age & for the first time voted maturely. India achieved real freedom on his election freeing from slavery & stronghold of the Congress.
Thankyou for welcoming Salman Rashid sab. Been a fan of him for a year now. Anyone who wants more of him, he has a treasure trove channel, Aik Musafir ka Duniya.
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Such a honest and intelligent discussion . Hat's off to the interviewer 🙌🏻
What a beautiful podcast, one of the best I ever saw…
English name - Mount Everest
Nepali name - Sagarmatha ( Peak of Heaven)
Tibetan name - Chomolunga (Goddess of the Valley)
Host and guest both are learned person.
Love and respect from INDIA 🇮🇳
Very nice and clear perception. You can feel the honesty of the heart. Thanks to both of you. Each civilization needs such great elders to guide the young generations. Then only there is future and harmony. Best wishes from India.
Am an indian.....i found Salman Rashid very informative and engaging.....his Honesty is very transparent !!.Am sharing this with all my friends !
How did you get this
This podcast just popped up today on my mobile while surfing the net. Thoroughly enjoyed this session. Salute to Mr. Salman Rashid for being so candid and interesting. My maternal grandparents came from Lahore during partition. I remember my grandfather used to describe the beauty of Lahore. Though he lived in Delhi he would always tell us that there was no place as Lahore. Keep sharing such stories.
As an Indian, i have to say these pakistani intellectual knowledge is commendable
Love it
As a history student some of the comments by Mr Rashid, i differ but overall these podcast is a 8.5/10
Can we do these type of podcast ? In India... Current scenerio is not like this..
@@Naveenkumar-qy5wy Brother I really don't know which world you are living in, by your statement I really believe you have leftist ideology, there are hell lot of podcast like these, only if you have a open mind to find it.
@@Naveenkumar-qy5wycurrent scenario of what? We Indians r again heading towards our culture we have no identify crisis unlike you
Why do you need this type of podcasts? Are you also suffering from identity crisis? @@Naveenkumar-qy5wy
@@user-dm9oc3bi4o the irony of ur statement is that salman rasheed sahab himself has a "so-called" leftist ideology
Shehzaad , being an Indian i can say there are different interpratations of history and multiple distortions as well over the course of time but what keeps your podcast different is the logical set of questions you asked. Hats off to the independent curiousity your ideology and mind brings on the table. Keep it going ! 👏🏻
You haven't seen all his videos lol
He is just an educated illiterate typical Pakistani - Anti Indian, Anti Hindus 🙂
Couple of English corrections:
1. interprEtations (notice where the E is)
2. ....ideology and mind bring (no S) to (not on) the table
During the key pad writing even using the computers,it is not counted nowadays spelling mistakes. Keep in mind that electronic writing is sometimes used as a very unusual alphabet, The new generation is familiar with such an abbreviation Alphabet that to unlock the massage requires a very level standard. Keep in the dustbin Big E or small. Conclude the message required.
This is a great Podcast, following it for some time for conversations like this one. Love from India !
A Great podcast with honest and knowledgeable academic like Mr. Salman Rashid. There is always so much to learn. Love from USA!!.
You are wrong about the present situation in India. We are simply standing up against extremism and terrorism. If that hurts a section of people for whom religion is more important than nation then maybe they chose the wrong side of the border in 1947
Bang on
👏👏👏
justification is not based on reality
@@Isqa-uw5seillogical and paradoxical sentence from you iqsa
@@MM65629 thanks for fanatic comment
Its 12 AM in India & I can not put my mobile down.
What a Wisdom Salman Saab. Deep respect 🙏
It's 12:56 AST and continued😅
12:16😅😂
Same here.
Bhai, buy Premium and lock your phone and put it down. Can still listen to this. 😊
@@sp-fn8eg 🤣
A brilliant and fascinating insight into the evolution and Status off Pakistan today. U have seldom seen such an honest interview-duscussion in recent years! I was reverted from the start right through to the end and have great respect for both the journalist and the travel writer. And to be frank are not seen any search interview offset quality in any of the Western media. So hats off to both of you and the channel providers.
As a Indian 🇮🇳 i really appreciate Salman sir 🙏
Shehzad, what you’re doing is creating a library for the future generations. Thank you!
🙌
What sought of library. He doesn't even know what CAA is and why Muslims in India were protesting and what govt did to stop those protest was right. But he thinks this govt is promoting radicalizm and right wing propaganda. 😂
University for future generation a
@@ThePakistanExperienceKokani Muslim Not Change His Hindu Surname
@@ThePakistanExperiencetuh hindu favourable videos banaata hai.
Musalmano aur pakistaniyat ko neecha dikhaata hai.
Aur sab ke sab Hindu tujhe appreciate karte !
Basically unke narrative chala raha hai liberalism ke chadar pehen kar.
Ek baar Hindutva ka expose video nikaal ki dikhaade agar aukaat aur self respect hai toh !
Tuh khud dekhna kaise yeh hindutvawadi sab tujhe jaahil , gawaar etc etc bolenge ! Bas tuh himmat kar aur nikaal 1-2 podcast back to back on Exposing Hindutva RSS. Phir dekhna
Great interview full of punjabi humor, I'm glad to see people like Salman Rashid have started to reach such a mass audience in a country like pakistan. This is the actual change we needed, and Zia's influences will slowly get eradicated inshallah.
What is zia's influence actually? Define it.
What intelligent talk, we need people like these , love from India
I am so happy to hear your interview , it is so informative and based on facts. great
What a podcast. Full of reality, full of exciting talks. Really you'll enjoy and never feel bored throughout almost 2 hours. What a intellectual person Sir Salman Rashid is.❤
Why can't Arabs and Turks be ancestors of Muslims living in subcontinent? Not all but atleast some of them
yes..that 1%@@alisardar9149
First time I witnessed a quality conversation on history coming from Pakistan...keep it up
Very true we should accept the factual events and accept the reality.
Arabs teach Pakistanis their true history. They reject them as Arabs. Turks reject them as turks. Afghans reject them . Persians reject them. They are indian Muslims all reject them. We have started rejecting them too. We have started considering them as what they define themselves. Invaders
accha ji 😂😂😂
That means hindoos are happy.
Please like the video, give views by sharing, give superchats !
Ab itna aap log ka 🦶🏽 chaat rahe ham pak liberandus, toh itna toh banta hai na ji 🥲🥲
Dedo Paisa bhai ! Aur 🦶🏽chatenge videos banakar 🤌
Tumny dekhi pehli conversation hai, apni intolerance hum par project Mt karo.
I enjoyed listening to Mr Salman Rashid’ s straight talk . He doesn’t mince his words ! I conclude from his talk that we are one country with four distinct nationalities which must be accepted for the survival of Pakistan. I appreciate his clarity of thought and his articulation of the ground realities! We need educated people like him who speak with the facts backed by his deep knowledge of history. He has unmistakably exposed hypocrites and phoney characters using religion for their political gains. We must not distort history and be pragmatic in our approach! My felicitations to him on his enlightening talk!
I as retired officer of the army feel proud of him for being an outstandingly knowledgeable retired officer of the army. I have become a fan of him. Godspeed to him.
Maan gaye boss -- very straightforward.. very true
As an indian and history student , i respect their knowledge about history ....such a intellectual person in Pakistan history.
I am from Baltistan, the way Sir pronounced balti words Chogo Re (k2) and Lingsa like native balti do. Amazing
He has learned from baltis. Pure pronunciations.
Wow really intelligent discussion❤
Impressed by this podcast and it doubled my respect towards Pakistani’s ❤
It takes a lot of research and mainly the guts to speak out. Hats off to both. Realising the facts will definitely help Pakistan to exist in reality with prosperity.
To progress, u have to leave Islam
So happy to see that Pakistan has such youtubers who dig in the past with intellectuals like Salman Rashid. Very good interview, keep doing well, Best wishes.
Your new subscriber from India
The quality of this man is evident when he says he doesn’t know something or admits that he misspoke. 1:15:30
Deep admiration.
What a intelligent man Mr.rashid..
Hats 🎩 off you sir...
The whole podcast is very interesting
Salman sahib ,i am hindu from bharat,i am amazed to hear your knowledge of our(Punjabi) history.i am thankful to you.
After watching the whole podcast; it became very evident that His love for history stems from his core.
Really glad to meet him.
Subscribed. Next level. The lad the boy the host is exceptional
Wow what an intellectual dialogue ! Loved it !
Refreshing to see a learned Pakistani who isn't afraid of speaking the truth
We should also not be alienating Muslims in our own country let alone Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
@@arjuniyer5047Concur with you
Loved the talk! Wasn't expecting this sort of intellectualism in a podcast! Love from India ❤
Punjab , Sindh, Baluchistan is the real India which history talk about.
The man who is highly intelligent, I really admire his honesty. Very learned and well informed, a man whose words come from experience and not some books or theorey. Clear thinker. To be admired for his truth and honesty.
An eye opening info!
I m from BULANDSHAHR UP INDIA.Having intrest in history I never heard such candid conversation.Hats off u
Very good podcast, finally someone with reality in Pakistan… this podcast should have a tag line “ FEW GOOD MEN “ , last of the good generation people…
संयुक्त भारत की ऐतिहासिक उपलब्घियो को सुनकर आश्चर्य हुआ ।इस महान प्रस्तुतिकरण के लिए आपको नमन है ।
Salman bhai lot of similarities between two countries.
Very informative interview.
Thanks..
One of the Truthful n Factful Podcast...!!!
What a man Mr.Salman Rashid Ji is. 👌👌
My favorite podcast ever! Legend ❤
Thanks for talking to him!
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A Muslim never loyal towards thier country.They are loyal towards their mazhub .
Interesting discussion.
O! Pakistani Gentlemen! Excellent! I appreciate you both to sing the truth. Let's hope for good future. Hope, still Pakistan must be preserving the seeds of humanity which might sprout one day.
Such a treat to listen to Salman Rashid, would’ve loved to have a grandfather like this 😂
Same wish please 😅😂
He is very biased and seems to be a Punjabi nationalist. People like him weaken the roots of Pakistan, and make us all insecure. That's why he is to be avoided.
Good learned man is Salman Rashid.
Right
@@QabilAGhorwhy r u scared of reality?
Simply phenomenal, Mr.Salman Rashid.I regularly follow Pakistani channel. I have never heard someone as knowledgeable as candid as genuine from Pakistan as Salman Rashid Sahab.Kudos to him.
Aryan
Taxila was ancient takhsyasila nd chanakya the guru of Chandragupta maurya was was alumini of takhsyasila University , present Kandahar was ancient gandhar mentioned in Mahabharata nd gandhari the mother of duryadhan was princess of gandhar.
I'm from Taxila
Gandhara Resource Center is protecting and preserving the cultural heritage of Taxila/ Gandhara Civilization.. You may visit here in Pakistan GRCP in Taxila
Sohail Ahmed
Don't worry about identity brothers, as a Hindu Brahmin, i want to remind that 10k years back there was no religion at all. We're are all basically humans
Remembering good olden days when Salman Rashid used to work in SIEMENS in early eighties. A very pleasant personality and nice colleague.
Excellent. There is so much scarcity of quality content from Pakistan on digital platforms. Please keep it up.
How does that make a difference??? Is anyone going to learn from it...?
Sir tan se Juda is still the motto for madarsaachaaps...
Panhwar / Panwar is a Hindu Jat surname 😢
@@ankurantil6137there are hundred thousands of jutt rajput people in Pakistan
Eye opener...
Panwar rajput hain.aap.
Wow such a great podcast
As neat and transparent as could be..👍
Yet still wonder to what extent such dialogues and analysis reach out to the intended for a cause..🤔
I am an Indian and truly believe that Pakistanis and indians are of the same blood and share the same core values, our religions might be different but our food, music and family values have always been the same. I hope Bangladesh, India and Pakistan become its own south asian economic corridor where all south asians can move freely like the EU.
You are right but we also very different because of ISLAM
Nah we good 👍
@@Little-bird-told-me ha toh tum karlo economic corridor central asia k sath.😂
@@jatin2866 what you doing on this channel listening to this guy if you think we good? Clearly you're a bigot.
Well, you are right. Once it was same nation. However they may never have anything to have economic powers, as far as Pakistan Army & Indian Politicians exist. (Why didn't say Pakistani politicians? because biggest political party of Pakistan is Pakistani Army).
Today India crossed 4 trillion dollar GDP mark and will become the 3 rd largest economy after US and China in next 30 months. Or even before. Kudos to Modi gov, all the states and people of my country. While Pak are talking about their identity. This is what happens when your country is built on hate
😂😂. We are of same name with same things to say🎉
This is wrong news, atleast get ur facts right before saying something like this😢
@@KrishRay-ho2nlmadarchod tu chech kar data
@@KrishRay-ho2nlwhat is wrong in that.
Maybe the timing, 30 months is too far away
Despite strong economy, mentality is same. Racial, prejudice, narrow minded.
At present,strong anti Muslim and anti Pakistan agenda.
Strong economies should be more concerned with welfare, social justice and equal opportunities for all of it's citizens.
Such an intersting talk.
Great conversation