Not Kargil, but 1965 war was the biggest blunder of Pakistan. In its efforts to grab Kashmir, Pakistan left East Pakistan completely defenseless. This was the spark that led to the civil war and birth of Bangladesh.
@@Hacker776-o2l East Pakistan was discriminated by west pakistani punjabi"s and linguistic divide was apparent. Urdu was imposed on then east Pakistan along with atrocities.
@@vineetraina119 to mai kab bol rha hu ki ye sab nhi hua .. bhai maine bola ki usne 1971 war ke baare me likha hai to tum bina padhe kyu puch rhe ho what about 1971 war.. bss yeh bol rha hu.. ye history maine bhi 8vi mein pdh li
@@affanzaman6683 there will never be Indo-china war, only skirmishes will be there ,because of 120 billion Indo-china trade and it will keep increasing, unlike Pak-India,and Pak is facing worst economic crisis,so possible we can se India grabbing more places like turtuk,Siachen in previous war around 2035-2040.
you got it wrong. Kargil was the huge success story of Musharraf. He was successfully derail the first strong democratically elected civil government. He was successfully derailed and permanently damaged friendship with India there by successfully put Army in charge of Pakistan forever. Musharraf successfully become a dictator and shared his loot with fellow Faujis and gave them entire Pakistan economy. It was last nail in the Pakistan democracy coffin.
In Kargil Ch'ina left Pak'istan alone. Cow'ard Nawaz Shareef ran towards USA to take help from Clinton, instead of supporting his mili'tary. Pak needs to understand USA n Ch'ina can b our friends, but not da'ds. They wont fig'ht wa'rs for us, wake up
In Kargil Ch'ina left Pak'istan alone. Cow'ard Nawaz Shareef ran towards USA to take help from Clinton, instead of supporting his mili'tary. Pak needs to understand USA n Ch'ina can b our friends, but not da'ds. They wont fig'ht wa'rs for us,
Excellent interview! Hats off to Mr Ahmed for his honest and straightforward analysis and speaking the straight truth. This is one of the rare channels where you are honest and transparent and truthful. Most Pakistani channels live in la la land and keep harping the Army lies
@@sanuagarwal8618 Dear Sanu, Nehru made reforms to reduce the power of the army. So the person above is correct. Nehru is the one to thank for our democracy. And when it comes to Nehru's other decisions, I wont claim that everything he did was golden. There were some mistakes but a lot of the foundation of our democracy is owed to him. You must understand the cultural differences between all different Indian states and the pressure to get back all the princely states. Only an exceptional person and an exceptional team can do this. He was an excellent statesman who understood the importance of drafting a constitution as early as possible. Pakistan struggled a lot with constitution and even when it finally drafted one, it couldn't guarantee a democracy independent of army interference and equality. Your prejudice might be due to the anti-Nehru/Gandhi propaganda ran by the current ruling party. They like to boost the Nehru/Gandhi mistakes but never admit to all the great things that happened under the leadership. Always learn to question things and seek answers for yourself. We are a civilization of seekers and learners. Not blind followers.
@@affanzaman6683 we had our issue with army till 1999 and we accept that our army wasn't properly armed and we accept that we lost land to China in 1961.....atleast we can accept that but a islamic neighbour country can't even do that because they know their army is biggest thief of their country where last three retired Generals have settled abroad.....
Outstanding podcast. Hard to accept harsh realities in a country like pakistan. No wonder mainstream media steers away from him. Keep up the great work! Love from India 🇮🇳
Aaj ke daur me aap pakistanio ko aisa blunt truth bolne vale intelectual chahiye... Hats off to Dr Isteaq Ahmed sir... Iss Gem 💎💎💎 ko pata nhi pakistani kyu nhi pahchan sake... I'm Indian but feeling sad for poor Pakistani 😢😢😢😢😢
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds lol
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r a super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds haha
No relations with Pakistan. Enough of this drama. We want absolutely nothing to do with Pakistan. Musharaff had briefed Nawaz, he knew everything . Backstabbers
Post Kargil no one believes Pakistan. Their Game is over. We lost young bright officers their memories are kept up in most cities to make our future generations not to trust neighbours and learn and adopt the new world order full of violence, fire power and avoid the old culture of non violence- a new reality adopted by Indian Psyche.
I agree. It's Sad, but we all need to accept this new reality. We Indians have to make our Country stronger in all the sense, and keep our people United and peaceful. ❤🇮🇳
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds, huh
@@aarifboy Ranking based on Scientific documents published, Country wise (Year 2020) ( from Wikipedia, which you could verify. ) 1 China 2 United States 3 United Kingdom 4 India 5 Germany and Pakistan is Ranked 30. So please, don't lecture others, before you get your Pakistan in order. Like the elders used to say... "People who live in Mansions made of Glass, don't throw Stones at others" Have a great Day.
Being and Indian i really enjoyed listening to this. Keep it up. All my ancestors have been in the Army and served India. Unfortunately i could not, but i love reading military history. I had heard that in 1965 Opr Gibraltar and Grandslam were supposed to be a Blitzkrieg offensive into India. Blitz is combined arms warfare where Airforce plays a major role. Then why did they not involve the Air force?
P'tanis had the comparatively advanced American aircraft at that time. I guess initially they wanted plausible deniability that the fighters in Kashmir were locals. But later in the war they matched the IAF.
@namansinghnegi8931 Indians live in the delusional world of indian army propaganda. Just tell me where IAF was hiding more than two squadrons of mig 21 all armed with A2A missiles. I know you are never going to accept the truth.
Papistani army refused to salute Vajpayee Ji - guess the formal salute was given by PAF or the Navy. Musharraf always harbored hatred and disdain against India. That resulted in Kargil ultimately.
India tested its nuclear in response to China's nuclear tests. As China and India both had a conflict not too long ago so it was pretty reasonable for India to give a response to China. Pakistan reacted exrta ordinary.
Kashmir is bread and butter for Pak army so it was not just extra ordinary but extremist way “ghas khyenge par bam banayenge” and literally now fighting for atta. So people of both countries must understand that there will never be good relations between us.don’t waste your valuable time in creating such podcast.
@@DilipKumar-o6e5k ka katua Abdool , naam badal ke kya comment ker rha idhur ??! Ja puncture saat Abba ke sath😂😂😂😂😂😂.... Hamesha Convert hi kerta rahega kya??
An honest interview..... from one honest person Btw I must congratulate anchor for this podcast... Great 👍👍 As an Indian We love peace and see history We never invaded anybody God bless you and your channel....bro ❤
Major Mohammad Akram , Nishan e Haidar , of Battle of Hilli in the Bangladesh sector was honoured on Indian recommendation. It was said ,' Hilli se Pakistan army nahin hilli. '
The Kargil conflict exposed the deep fissures within Pakistan's political and military structures and disrupted the momentum created by the Lahore Declaration. While Vajpayee and Nawaz Sharif shared a vision for regional peace and economic cooperation, Kargil derailed their efforts, reinforcing distrust and hardline policies on both sides. The war's legacy continues to influence India-Pakistan relations, hindering opportunities for meaningful engagement and regional prosperity. Post-Kargil, attempts at dialogue, such as the Agra Summit (2001), failed to achieve substantial progress. The focus on security overshadowed economic cooperation, keeping both nations in a cycle of hostility. The potential economic benefits of opening trade and easing restrictions were lost. Both countries diverted significant resources to military spending and readiness, straining their economies.
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds, wow
I didnt know that Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed type of people are living in Pakistan. I am proud that in india we have same correct information about all these wars what dr is saying. Anyone plesae tell me his book name i will read it
first time, an honest interview seen from the neighboring country. only way that Pakistan can progress is, wake up from the dream of Kashmir and strengthen the democratic setup with honest leadership.
Most people think it was Ishtiaq, but that blunder happened thankfully during the British Raj. Somebody had to demonstrate the worst possible attributes of being born in Lahore. Most are good.
Hats off to Dr. Ahmad Sahab.....although thanks to internet ....now Pakistanis are getting actual and real knowledge about how they misbehaved India in past.
The West destroyed the Soviet Union bymaking the Soviets overspend till it became bankrupt India doesnt need to fight to recuperate Indian territory occupied by Pakistan .Now India is rearming at a higher rate and Pakistan is still taking top slice of Pskistan,s revenues and profuctivity have suffered as investment is dwindling at an alarming rate and the pace Pakistan,s army is milking Pakistan,smeagre revenues the proverbial revenue cow will run dry and Pakistan will disappear like so many failed states(M.Taijah)
Kargil was a well thought out plan by Musharraf and his coterie of generals to basically sabotage the Pakistan-India break through talks, which would have changed the politico-economic future of the subcontinent. This, in turn, would compromise the influence of the Pakistani generals over the nation and the need for such a large standing army. They achieved their strategic goals while defeating their own nation. I disagree that it was an impulsive act by a few adventurous generals.
In 48 Pak didn't hav Nuk'es still they grab'bed half of Kashmir from Ind'ia under Jinnah. In 99 things were easier as Pak just occu'pied Kargil without figh'ting, Even if Pak had Nuk'es now, but leader was a cow'ard like Nawaz Shareef, so the attempt fai'led. Just ha'ng Nawaz haha
Hey Shayan, Great work. Hope your Pakistani audience/citizens understand the truth about the Indo-Pak wars, Since we hear from Pakistani friends, that they get to learn a very different take on our War history, in Pak Schools and paint a picture that India is an intruder and the biggest enemy of Pakistan. Hopefully, when People of Pakistan start changing their mindset, that is to keep Pakistan first, and then Islam, You would have won, half your battle in moving towards a progressive nation. Good Luck.
Ishtiaq being a Papistani, he talks only about Papistani benefits. He does not admit that India gave MFN status to Papistan but even after several years, this favor was not reciprocated.
It was the biggest blunder by both countries to fight battles at 5000 metres altitude - Pak for starting it & India getting dragged into it. It is crazy. Was it necessary? Only very young soldiers fought it as the aged - even a bit thirtyish take time to adjust to the altitude, let alone fighting the others ! All soldiers who got killed were in their twenties - a great loss to each of both countries.
From India We love all the world love human being love Pakistan parents sisters brothers long life long live brotherhood ❤ friendship relations with Pakistan people are original brothers parents sisters peacefully life
You are living in a fools paradise . Pakistan has not only maintained an external enmities but also spoiled the minds of many radical Muslims in India . The Jihadi mentality you are seeing in India has its origin and support from Pakistan. Let them live in their world and not think of any friendship with us .
Naseem Zehra, a Papistani journalist, has written a detailed book after interviewing hundreds of officers of Army officers. Suggestion for Ishtiaq: plz read that book. Some of your concepts shall be cleared.
Only bat'tle which had result was in 48 wen Pak got half of Kash'mir from Ind'ia, all others had no result as Ind'ia cudnt get a single inch of Pak in 75 years, one plz on this lol
A great video with factual picture (thanks to Dr. Ahmed's research and dedication) about the events that lead to the Kargil fiasco. This video comes on Pandit Nehru's birthday - a man who was one of the greatest statesman of his times. I hope Pakistan and its citizens realize that India has never violated the Radcliff Award unlike Pakistani establishment which has violated the borders many a times that lead to many wars and uncountable skirmishes. India was offended and deeply hurt in 1999 when the heights were illegally captured by Pak Army esp. when our erstwhile PM Late AB Vajpayee jee was visiting Pak and looking for peace in the region.
What facts all Indian Propaganda they spewing.. It's a shame all our Indian Leaders were LGBTQ including Nehru... Vajpayee was playing double game he even said that.
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds, laa'nat
To concise it All .... Extreme Hate for Nonbelievers is above everything in Pakistan ... Dont worry you are not alone , even Bangladesh has started behaving like East Pakistan ... despite of several perks given by Indians . thanx to the s Religion of Peace and its Preaching .
Pakistan is still not realizing that it is under undeclared Indian sanctions and declared isolation campaign by India against Pakistan. 77 years of Pakistan's Kashmir policy had literally made it bankrupt but still it is not revising its Kashmir policy which is completely vague and doesn't stand against the India's narrative.
Pakistani are deeply interested in ' what happened in kargil war, who is responsible for that ' the same way we in India too are interested 'in 2002 who set the fire ball rolling '.. Now only this year it has been laid bare.... Mind you that has brought dea change in today's politics..
hmm, Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed says Pakistani generals only do tactical thinking and no strategic thinking as if that's the real problem. Is it acceptable if they did do strategic thinking and still do Kargil adventure? Ridiculous.
In this very watchable podcast of a popular title "Kargil" , it was interesting to note the constant presence of the infamous Pakistani Military top brass in the cross-hairs. However to a question on whether things now have "improved" , Dr Ahmed responds by saying it continues to be "self destructive". He missed on the aspect of "self serving", which is the real reasons why the Pak generals continue to be mischievous. By continuing to create hostility, it can continue to maintain access to huge funds for defence expenditure, purchases of fighter jets that nobody knows how much they ought to cost etc. The grip on Pakistan's GDP by these generals is one of the highest in the world, while common Pakistani citizens shouting "Lad ke lenge Kashmir" continue to buy essential goods at three times the price across the border. Imagine Qaid-E-Azam watching this tamasha from up there !
Pak Army is the biggest Problem for Pakistan. They should be restricted to Defence mandate and not interfere in politics. Country have a Army, un Pakistan case Army has a country. Why it's so difficult for public to understand.
Dr Ahmed has been honest in his submission but this comes at a time when they haven't much alternatives especially when they are so compromised economically. Its the people of Pakistan who suffer not the ones who created the State who are no more.
Bill Clinton messaged Vajpayee to stop the war and Vajpayee replied war will not stop, until Pakistan vacates Kargil. Bill Clinton said that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and Pakistan could fire Nuclear weapons. Vajpayee replied to Bill Clinton that Pakistan may destroy about 25% of India while when India responds that it will ensure that Pakistan will not see the light of the next day
India always gave Pakistan a chance to improve but Pakistan always took advantage of it and stabbed itself in the back. Now, India does not accept friendship with Pakistan anywhere. Today, Pakistan's cricket media and public say that BCCI is not allowing Pakistan to benefit financially. Because.......it is hidden in Pakistan's history that whenever India gave it a chance, Pakistan betrayed India.
I have been told this man is a scholar. But his knowledge at best can be either called pathetic or he is speaking with his tongue in the cheek. He is telling a two time prime minister couldn't understand a briefing. Problem is an army chief cannot understand what sanctions means. NS famous words who crossed Loc when general iftikhar told him is well documented.
It really hurtens to see that the state of india and pakistan today…the armies fought and religious bigotry was instilled and today the conditions among any vlog in the pakistan shows them hating india…i believe that not only a peaceful resolution among the nations but also a brotherhood develops like a phoenix from ashes such that we both develop as nations…china might be a friend of pakistan today as it is still weak and poses no threat economically to them…vlogs shows the normal pakistani with people of other countries treat them with a warm welcome…so this shows that the people are good…just illogical brainwashing and a few generations of hatred have caused the subcontinent to break apart…may we both make sure walfare for our peoples and people’s life,education,development are the focus of our govts…may the people get more power and less corruption occurs…may we bridge our differences once and for all and leave these fights and our hatred towards the other nation
At Kargil War bet. India and Pakistan, America may have been pro Pakistan but by a year or so later (9/11/2001), American public's and Western world's attitude towards Pakistan and other Muslim countries was totally reversed. As long as Al-Qaida was attacking the Russians in Afghanistan they (Pakistanis) were welcomed as allies.
Regarding Imran khan as an Indian ..apart from his Anti india rants at UN😂 which is but natural ..he is really a fighter .. army helped him to gain power..BUT HE HAS SOME SPINE that he wanted to rule country through People's mandate and NOT THROUGH ARMY DICTUM . INDEED he could be a turning point for pakistan..
Perhaps someday some Pakistani analyst will do a Root Cause Analyses using Herringbone methodology. We’d be interested to know the result. When we did it, the root cause appeared after six iterations. It could not be atomised further. The root cause was “doctrinal Islam”. All these conversations reach four levels of iteration only. Hence useful, but incomplete, in our view. The reason Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmad stops is because of innate intellectual dishonesty, and this puzzled us in the beginning. But We’ve followed his work through his excellent books and often insightful talks. We’ve written to him, noted his responses and non-responses. And the conclusion is that he is intellectually dishonest. Which is a pity because his methodological rigour is excellent. We await someone of even higher calibre in Pakistan to engage with the premise. Siddiqua and Haqqani are brilliant but have similar limitations as Dr. Ahmad. Economists like Uzair, Atif Mian and even Khurram Hussain have the intellectual honesty but seem to be focused, and rightly so, on the fiscal aspects rather than civilizational. Perhaps someday.
Musharraf kismat wala tha ..1971 war me jab governor house par mig 21 ne attack' Kiya tha tab woh waha tha aur Bach Gaya tha phir kargil war me jaguar fighter aircraft ne loc ki pak army post ko lock kardiya tha jaha Nawaz aur Musharraf uss samay wahi thye. But yeh mission abort hogaya tha...😅😅😅warna pak pm with army head dono saff ho jate 😅😅😅
Educate yourself on Siachen! Siachen according to maps was unoccupied. Only thing was a few European tourists used to hike from Pakistan side. India looked at the maps. Pakistan doesn't show those maps😢 anymore. India followed the maps and occupied only a day or so before.
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Not Kargil, but 1965 war was the biggest blunder of Pakistan.
In its efforts to grab Kashmir, Pakistan left East Pakistan completely defenseless. This was the spark that led to the civil war and birth of Bangladesh.
😅😂 What about the 1971 war?
@@vineetraina119bhai pura comment to padle.. usne 1971 ki hi baat ki hai aage😂
@@Hacker776-o2l East Pakistan was discriminated by west pakistani punjabi"s and linguistic divide was apparent. Urdu was imposed on then east Pakistan along with atrocities.
@@Hacker776-o2l Geographically too then east Pakistan was too far off from west pakistani.
@@vineetraina119 to mai kab bol rha hu ki ye sab nhi hua .. bhai maine bola ki usne 1971 war ke baare me likha hai to tum bina padhe kyu puch rhe ho what about 1971 war.. bss yeh bol rha hu.. ye history maine bhi 8vi mein pdh li
After Kargil war, the India -Isreal partnership solidified. Good for India.🎉
If it was India china war Israel would have never helped India. Find the reason why? 😂.
@@affanzaman6683 whatever it is mullas will never support India 😂
@@affanzaman6683 there will never be Indo-china war, only skirmishes will be there ,because of 120 billion Indo-china trade and it will keep increasing, unlike Pak-India,and Pak is facing worst economic crisis,so possible we can se India grabbing more places like turtuk,Siachen in previous war around 2035-2040.
@@affanzaman6683 India and China are ancient non-abrahmic civilizations. Will never go to war for the helpof Abrahmics
Yahood Hanood Alliance!!
“ No one died for Pakistan but Millions of innocents died because of Pakistan”
-Moeenuddin Ahmad Qureshi Former Prime Minister of Pakistan.
you got it wrong. Kargil was the huge success story of Musharraf. He was successfully derail the first strong democratically elected civil government. He was successfully derailed and permanently damaged friendship with India there by successfully put Army in charge of Pakistan forever. Musharraf successfully become a dictator and shared his loot with fellow Faujis and gave them entire Pakistan economy. It was last nail in the Pakistan democracy coffin.
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This comment nailed it!
In Kargil Ch'ina left Pak'istan alone. Cow'ard Nawaz Shareef ran towards USA to take help from Clinton, instead of supporting his mili'tary. Pak needs to understand USA n Ch'ina can b our friends, but not da'ds. They wont fig'ht wa'rs for us, wake up
In Kargil Ch'ina left Pak'istan alone. Cow'ard Nawaz Shareef ran towards USA to take help from Clinton, instead of supporting his mili'tary. Pak needs to understand USA n Ch'ina can b our friends, but not da'ds. They wont fig'ht wa'rs for us,
Excellent interview! Hats off to Mr Ahmed for his honest and straightforward analysis and speaking the straight truth. This is one of the rare channels where you are honest and transparent and truthful. Most Pakistani channels live in la la land and keep harping the Army lies
Weird n crazy ppl you are... Fabricated facts on this channel..
Thank god to our Indian army ,
🙏🏽..they never followed Pakistans path and they could have usurped power in the last century. But they never did .
thx to Nehru
@@myspace6862 Nehru? Nehru is reason we lost our army land and respect and financial crises in 1991
@@sanuagarwal8618 Dear Sanu,
Nehru made reforms to reduce the power of the army. So the person above is correct. Nehru is the one to thank for our democracy.
And when it comes to Nehru's other decisions, I wont claim that everything he did was golden. There were some mistakes but a lot of the foundation of our democracy is owed to him. You must understand the cultural differences between all different Indian states and the pressure to get back all the princely states. Only an exceptional person and an exceptional team can do this. He was an excellent statesman who understood the importance of drafting a constitution as early as possible. Pakistan struggled a lot with constitution and even when it finally drafted one, it couldn't guarantee a democracy independent of army interference and equality.
Your prejudice might be due to the anti-Nehru/Gandhi propaganda ran by the current ruling party. They like to boost the Nehru/Gandhi mistakes but never admit to all the great things that happened under the leadership.
Always learn to question things and seek answers for yourself. We are a civilization of seekers and learners. Not blind followers.
@@sanuagarwal8618Lost our army land when was you army deployed there😂😂? .?
@@affanzaman6683 we had our issue with army till 1999 and we accept that our army wasn't properly armed and we accept that we lost land to China in 1961.....atleast we can accept that but a islamic neighbour country can't even do that because they know their army is biggest thief of their country where last three retired Generals have settled abroad.....
A student from my college died in the Kargil war. He was 21 years old. And we didn't know about him until his memorial was built.
Outstanding podcast. Hard to accept harsh realities in a country like pakistan. No wonder mainstream media steers away from him. Keep up the great work! Love from India 🇮🇳
Aaj ke daur me aap pakistanio ko aisa blunt truth bolne vale intelectual chahiye...
Hats off to Dr Isteaq Ahmed sir...
Iss Gem 💎💎💎 ko pata nhi pakistani kyu nhi pahchan sake...
I'm Indian but feeling sad for poor Pakistani 😢😢😢😢😢
What a professional army
Who disowned its own dead soldiers
But they are never ashmed of their own army actions
For Pakistan army shame /ghairat means Nothing.
Dollar is everything
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds lol
Bhaijaan your this argument does not make any sense , comeon being a Pakistani it's our duty to own up to mistakes of our ancestors @@aarifboy
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r a super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds haha
@@aarifboy bro just copy pasting lol
No relations with Pakistan. Enough of this drama. We want absolutely nothing to do with Pakistan. Musharaff had briefed Nawaz,
he knew everything . Backstabbers
No cricket no trade no relati9ns
Foreign policy is controlled by Pakistan army not politicians
@@Kothi-t6e Same in India 🇮🇳
Nor do Pakistan want anything to do with 🇮🇳.. We are a total 🇮🇳Shit hole on the planet with credit based economy..
@@DilipKumar-o6e5kgrowup whole world knows this
Modi takes decisions in india.
Indian army comes under ministry of defense
I believe Pakistan needs more sensible people like Mr. Ahmed. Than only Pakistan will become developed .
Post Kargil no one believes Pakistan. Their Game is over. We lost young bright officers their memories are kept up in most cities to make our future generations not to trust neighbours and learn and adopt the new world order full of violence, fire power and avoid the old culture of non violence- a new reality adopted by Indian Psyche.
I agree. It's Sad, but we all need to accept this new reality. We Indians have to make our Country stronger in all the sense, and keep our people United and peaceful. ❤🇮🇳
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds, huh
@@aarifboy Ranking based on Scientific documents published, Country wise (Year 2020) ( from Wikipedia, which you could verify. )
1 China
2 United States
3 United Kingdom
4 India
5 Germany
and Pakistan is Ranked 30.
So please, don't lecture others, before you get your Pakistan in order.
Like the elders used to say...
"People who live in Mansions made of Glass, don't throw Stones at others"
Have a great Day.
@@aarifboyhaha the country beg for money from imf and arabis, Chinese are talking shit about other country.
Being and Indian i really enjoyed listening to this. Keep it up. All my ancestors have been in the Army and served India. Unfortunately i could not, but i love reading military history. I had heard that in 1965 Opr Gibraltar and Grandslam were supposed to be a Blitzkrieg offensive into India. Blitz is combined arms warfare where Airforce plays a major role. Then why did they not involve the Air force?
P'tanis had the comparatively advanced American aircraft at that time. I guess initially they wanted plausible deniability that the fighters in Kashmir were locals.
But later in the war they matched the IAF.
@namansinghnegi8931 Indians live in the delusional world of indian army propaganda. Just tell me where IAF was hiding more than two squadrons of mig 21 all armed with A2A missiles. I know you are never going to accept the truth.
Papistani army refused to salute Vajpayee Ji - guess the formal salute was given by PAF or the Navy. Musharraf always harbored hatred and disdain against India. That resulted in Kargil ultimately.
Pakistan or Musharraf didn't commit a blunder- Pakistan itself was a blunder.
good mannerism and etiquettes of conducting the show
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India tested its nuclear in response to China's nuclear tests. As China and India both had a conflict not too long ago so it was pretty reasonable for India to give a response to China. Pakistan reacted exrta ordinary.
Kashmir is bread and butter for Pak army so it was not just extra ordinary but extremist way “ghas khyenge par bam banayenge” and literally now fighting for atta. So people of both countries must understand that there will never be good relations between us.don’t waste your valuable time in creating such podcast.
@@dsn7193 There will never be peace till our 🇮🇳 Indian Army & R&AW Stop all forms of terrorism.
@@DilipKumar-o6e5k Indian army doesn’t have political power like pak army.
@@dsn7193 It does but is all behind the scenes, have you worked in govt? do you have fam in militry, no so be quiet..
@@DilipKumar-o6e5k ka katua Abdool , naam badal ke kya comment ker rha idhur ??! Ja puncture saat Abba ke sath😂😂😂😂😂😂.... Hamesha Convert hi kerta rahega kya??
An honest interview..... from one honest person
Btw I must congratulate anchor for this podcast...
Great 👍👍
As an Indian We love peace and see history We never invaded anybody
God bless you and your channel....bro ❤
Major Mohammad Akram , Nishan e Haidar , of Battle of Hilli in the Bangladesh sector was honoured on Indian recommendation. It was said ,' Hilli se Pakistan army nahin hilli. '
The Kargil conflict exposed the deep fissures within Pakistan's political and military structures and disrupted the momentum created by the Lahore Declaration. While Vajpayee and Nawaz Sharif shared a vision for regional peace and economic cooperation, Kargil derailed their efforts, reinforcing distrust and hardline policies on both sides. The war's legacy continues to influence India-Pakistan relations, hindering opportunities for meaningful engagement and regional prosperity. Post-Kargil, attempts at dialogue, such as the Agra Summit (2001), failed to achieve substantial progress. The focus on security overshadowed economic cooperation, keeping both nations in a cycle of hostility. The potential economic benefits of opening trade and easing restrictions were lost. Both countries diverted significant resources to military spending and readiness, straining their economies.
Watching this from India - thanks for such an insightful podcast !
Great insight
Rogue Pakistan 🇵🇰 Army
Rogue Indian Army 🇮🇳 Innitt JEET...
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds, wow
I didnt know that Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed type of people are living in Pakistan. I am proud that in india we have same correct information about all these wars what dr is saying. Anyone plesae tell me his book name i will read it
Thank you
Rare Subcontinental interview without blatant cheast thumping, jingoism and warmongering. Well done 👍🏼
At least someone is honest in Pakistan. Otherwise they live in their own fantasy
Loved his Jinnah and partition episode! Looking forward to this one
Very good questions and honest interview
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Excellent Analysis by Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed as always!
Why?
first time, an honest interview seen from the neighboring country. only way that Pakistan can progress is, wake up from the dream of Kashmir and strengthen the democratic setup with honest leadership.
India, Pakistan could have been like EU with no borders .. but Pakistan decided to be islamist.
Thanks for presenting such an exceptional and straightforward vlog.
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Still Pakistani experts milking Kargil war, they can't live within India or without India 😅😅😅
*This Was Pakistan's Success*
*Until It Did Not Face It's Enemy*
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Very logical and balanced analysis.
Most people think it was Ishtiaq, but that blunder happened thankfully during the British Raj. Somebody had to demonstrate the worst possible attributes of being born in Lahore. Most are good.
How many Pakistanis is watching this ? 🧐🧐🧐
Anyone is here…? I don’t t think so😂
Hats off to Dr. Ahmad Sahab.....although thanks to internet ....now Pakistanis are getting actual and real knowledge about how they misbehaved India in past.
No doctrine is permanent, thinking is overshadowed by new reality.
You are an excellent host, keep it up! Very good interview !
Thank you sir
Dr..sab❤
The West destroyed the Soviet Union bymaking the Soviets overspend till it became bankrupt India doesnt need to fight to recuperate Indian territory occupied by Pakistan .Now India is rearming at a higher rate and Pakistan is still taking top slice of Pskistan,s revenues and profuctivity have suffered as investment is dwindling at an alarming rate and the pace Pakistan,s army is milking Pakistan,smeagre revenues the proverbial revenue cow will run dry and Pakistan will disappear like so many failed states(M.Taijah)
In ur dreams, Indian economy is credit based... India will self destruct way before that.
Watching 55 minutes without skip. Very interesting and knowledgeable interview.
Kargil was a well thought out plan by Musharraf and his coterie of generals to basically sabotage the Pakistan-India break through talks, which would have changed the politico-economic future of the subcontinent. This, in turn, would compromise the influence of the Pakistani generals over the nation and the need for such a large standing army.
They achieved their strategic goals while defeating their own nation.
I disagree that it was an impulsive act by a few adventurous generals.
I 100% agree with your statement...it was a planned strategy that backfired....and was not an impulsive one
In 48 Pak didn't hav Nuk'es still they grab'bed half of Kashmir from Ind'ia under Jinnah. In 99 things were easier as Pak just occu'pied Kargil without figh'ting, Even if Pak had Nuk'es now, but leader was a cow'ard like Nawaz Shareef, so the attempt fai'led. Just ha'ng Nawaz haha
Nailed it
Hey Shayan,
Great work. Hope your Pakistani audience/citizens understand the truth about the Indo-Pak wars, Since we hear from Pakistani friends, that they get to learn a very different take on our War history, in Pak Schools and paint a picture that India is an intruder and the biggest enemy of Pakistan.
Hopefully, when People of Pakistan start changing their mindset, that is to keep Pakistan first, and then Islam, You would have won, half your battle in moving towards a progressive nation.
Good Luck.
Same is on Indian side they created a lot of lies which Indians wholeheartedly believe.
Ishtiaq being a Papistani, he talks only about Papistani benefits. He does not admit that India gave MFN status to Papistan but even after several years, this favor was not reciprocated.
Are uncle purra video toh sun le
@varunkhugshal9049 Son, I have known and interacted( one to one)with Ishtiaq since long. So, thank you for your advice!
@@SanjeevMunshi-u5r kuch sense hai is baat ka? Uncle video toh dekh MFN k baare main bola hai ishtihq ne, bas kuch nhi bolna hai
Trust a snake... But not a Pakistani.
@@varunkhugshal9049uncle bilkul theek bol rhe hain . jnu ke mahagyaani
good podcast ... neutral ideas
Realy great podcast ❤
Thanks for listening
Thanks
Proud of Indian armed forces. They don't feel afraid to put their lives online to protect their country and its sovereignty.
What is the solution now sir? That must be discussed, for the younger Pakistanis.
It was the biggest blunder by both countries to fight battles at 5000 metres altitude - Pak for starting it & India getting dragged into it. It is crazy. Was it necessary? Only very young soldiers fought it as the aged - even a bit thirtyish take time to adjust to the altitude, let alone fighting the others ! All soldiers who got killed were in their twenties - a great loss to each of both countries.
From India We love all the world love human being love Pakistan parents sisters brothers long life long live brotherhood ❤ friendship relations with Pakistan people are original brothers parents sisters peacefully life
You are living in a fools paradise . Pakistan has not only maintained an external enmities but also spoiled the minds of many radical Muslims in India . The Jihadi mentality you are seeing in India has its origin and support from Pakistan. Let them live in their world and not think of any friendship with us .
Dr sahib bold and honest
Naseem Zehra, a Papistani journalist, has written a detailed book after interviewing hundreds of officers of Army officers. Suggestion for Ishtiaq: plz read that book. Some of your concepts shall be cleared.
Let us know if you want more content like this!
Do a video on how Pakistani army's hold can be broken in pakistan..and made subservient to Citizens
Yes, please make a video on old cities of pakistan.
@@VidhyaDevi-dj6fwthat’s a great idea 🙏🙏
Only bat'tle which had result was in 48 wen Pak got half of Kash'mir from Ind'ia, all others had no result as Ind'ia cudnt get a single inch of Pak in 75 years, one plz on this lol
Great podcast
भारत माता की जय वंदे मातरम् जय श्रीराम 🔥
A brilliant presentation , as usual , by Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed.. on Kargil -1999 .
Jio aur jine do. this is hindu philosophy about all creatures.
Convert, Kill or be killed is their philosophy
A great video with factual picture (thanks to Dr. Ahmed's research and dedication) about the events that lead to the Kargil fiasco. This video comes on Pandit Nehru's birthday - a man who was one of the greatest statesman of his times. I hope Pakistan and its citizens realize that India has never violated the Radcliff Award unlike Pakistani establishment which has violated the borders many a times that lead to many wars and uncountable skirmishes. India was offended and deeply hurt in 1999 when the heights were illegally captured by Pak Army esp. when our erstwhile PM Late AB Vajpayee jee was visiting Pak and looking for peace in the region.
What facts all Indian Propaganda they spewing.. It's a shame all our Indian Leaders were LGBTQ including Nehru... Vajpayee was playing double game he even said that.
@@DilipKumar-o6e5k Did you get your atta or you have to sell family members to china to get Atta?
A nation be'gging for transfer of tech from all other nations think, they r super power. Proud people of Pak also purchase but dont be'g for tech like their Ind'ian ki'ds, laa'nat
Thanks for the information
To concise it All .... Extreme Hate for Nonbelievers is above everything in Pakistan ...
Dont worry you are not alone , even Bangladesh has started behaving like East Pakistan ... despite of several perks given by Indians .
thanx to the s Religion of Peace and its Preaching .
Pakistan is still not realizing that it is under undeclared Indian sanctions and declared isolation campaign by India against Pakistan. 77 years of Pakistan's Kashmir policy had literally made it bankrupt but still it is not revising its Kashmir policy which is completely vague and doesn't stand against the India's narrative.
hard to get a word in with Doctor Ahmed. 😊
Pakistani are deeply interested in ' what happened in kargil war, who is responsible for that ' the same way we in India too are interested 'in 2002 who set the fire ball rolling '.. Now only this year it has been laid bare.... Mind you that has brought dea change in today's politics..
#05:00 Sir, india Tested Nuke on may 11-13 of 1998 not on 1992 .
By mistake ***
Slip of tongue
I wonder how Pak people can support their army when they refused to take the dead bodies of soldiers back during Kargil..what a shame
Musharraf also was presented with beheaded soldiers heads.
hmm, Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed says Pakistani generals only do tactical thinking and no strategic thinking as if that's the real problem. Is it acceptable if they did do strategic thinking and still do Kargil adventure? Ridiculous.
Loved the content ❤
In this very watchable podcast of a popular title "Kargil" , it was interesting to note the constant presence of the infamous Pakistani Military top brass in the cross-hairs. However to a question on whether things now have "improved" , Dr Ahmed responds by saying it continues to be "self destructive". He missed on the aspect of "self serving", which is the real reasons why the Pak generals continue to be mischievous. By continuing to create hostility, it can continue to maintain access to huge funds for defence expenditure, purchases of fighter jets that nobody knows how much they ought to cost etc. The grip on Pakistan's GDP by these generals is one of the highest in the world, while common Pakistani citizens shouting "Lad ke lenge Kashmir" continue to buy essential goods at three times the price across the border. Imagine Qaid-E-Azam watching this tamasha from up there !
Pak Army is the biggest Problem for Pakistan. They should be restricted to Defence mandate and not interfere in politics. Country have a Army, un Pakistan case Army has a country. Why it's so difficult for public to understand.
pakistan k sabse samjhdar aur rational sochne wala insaan. agar inke tarah sab soche in pakistan to india and pakistan me border hi nahi rahega.
Brilliant analysis by Dr Istiaq Ahmed. His understanding and judicious narrative can be used as reference. Hope people lesrn.😊
Dr Ahmed has been honest in his submission but this comes at a time when they haven't much alternatives especially when they are so compromised economically. Its the people of Pakistan who suffer not the ones who created the State who are no more.
Bill Clinton messaged Vajpayee to stop the war and Vajpayee replied war will not stop, until Pakistan vacates Kargil. Bill Clinton said that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and Pakistan could fire Nuclear weapons. Vajpayee replied to Bill Clinton that Pakistan may destroy about 25% of India while when India responds that it will ensure that Pakistan will not see the light of the next day
That call was tapped by India and not the China or US..
Kargil top peaks still Pakistani control since 1999
Point 5353
Point Aftab
Yes.
Source:: Pakistan Studies😂😂
Think 🤔.. use your brain … dont dumb yourselves with fake narrative from the hate mongering PakiArmy
@@guruaus2659 asmani kitab
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It's on pok not in India. For 2 peaks 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 dollars army dictators
India always gave Pakistan a chance to improve but Pakistan always took advantage of it and stabbed itself in the back. Now, India does not accept friendship with Pakistan anywhere. Today, Pakistan's cricket media and public say that BCCI is not allowing Pakistan to benefit financially. Because.......it is hidden in Pakistan's history that whenever India gave it a chance, Pakistan betrayed India.
Sartazs Interviw with BBC in 1999 is worth to watch
Where he is swetting
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The mic setup should have been better… sir has good knowledge of how pak army works…
Hamudur Rehman Commission Report should public and punished all of Responsibles under article 6.
I have been told this man is a scholar. But his knowledge at best can be either called pathetic or he is speaking with his tongue in the cheek. He is telling a two time prime minister couldn't understand a briefing. Problem is an army chief cannot understand what sanctions means. NS famous words who crossed Loc when general iftikhar told him is well documented.
It really hurtens to see that the state of india and pakistan today…the armies fought and religious bigotry was instilled and today the conditions among any vlog in the pakistan shows them hating india…i believe that not only a peaceful resolution among the nations but also a brotherhood develops like a phoenix from ashes such that we both develop as nations…china might be a friend of pakistan today as it is still weak and poses no threat economically to them…vlogs shows the normal pakistani with people of other countries treat them with a warm welcome…so this shows that the people are good…just illogical brainwashing and a few generations of hatred have caused the subcontinent to break apart…may we both make sure walfare for our peoples and people’s life,education,development are the focus of our govts…may the people get more power and less corruption occurs…may we bridge our differences once and for all and leave these fights and our hatred towards the other nation
How a single general held his own country at Ransom
At Kargil War bet. India and Pakistan, America may have been pro Pakistan but by a year or so later (9/11/2001), American public's and Western world's attitude towards Pakistan and other Muslim countries was totally reversed. As long as Al-Qaida was attacking the Russians in Afghanistan they (Pakistanis) were welcomed as allies.
Regarding Imran khan as an Indian ..apart from his Anti india rants at UN😂 which is but natural ..he is really a fighter .. army helped him to gain power..BUT HE HAS SOME SPINE that he wanted to rule country through People's mandate and NOT THROUGH ARMY DICTUM .
INDEED he could be a turning point for pakistan..
Looks like u also like his cream😂😂😂😂
Perhaps someday some Pakistani analyst will do a Root Cause Analyses using Herringbone methodology.
We’d be interested to know the result. When we did it, the root cause appeared after six iterations. It could not be atomised further. The root cause was “doctrinal Islam”.
All these conversations reach four levels of iteration only. Hence useful, but incomplete, in our view. The reason Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmad stops is because of innate intellectual dishonesty, and this puzzled us in the beginning. But We’ve followed his work through his excellent books and often insightful talks. We’ve written to him, noted his responses and non-responses. And the conclusion is that he is intellectually dishonest. Which is a pity because his methodological rigour is excellent.
We await someone of even higher calibre in Pakistan to engage with the premise. Siddiqua and Haqqani are brilliant but have similar limitations as Dr. Ahmad. Economists like Uzair, Atif Mian and even Khurram Hussain have the intellectual honesty but seem to be focused, and rightly so, on the fiscal aspects rather than civilizational.
Perhaps someday.
Pakistan should realise that India has a, "no first use" policy.
Miscalculation or hypocrisy ? Honoring the words or sabotage ? Truth or bag of lies ?
That's Pakistan for you...
I disagree with Dr. about India being wrong on nuclear weapons. Had India not had nuclear weapons, China would have walked over India.
Musharraf kismat wala tha ..1971 war me jab governor house par mig 21 ne attack' Kiya tha tab woh waha tha aur Bach Gaya tha phir kargil war me jaguar fighter aircraft ne loc ki pak army post ko lock kardiya tha jaha Nawaz aur Musharraf uss samay wahi thye. But yeh mission abort hogaya tha...😅😅😅warna pak pm with army head dono saff ho jate 😅😅😅
Kindly give a brief introduction of speaker before starting the podcast
You’re right! Will keep that in mind for the future.
He’s been on before as well. He’s a scholar, analyst and author.
What about 71 war who did blunder and conspiracy at that time dr sb?
Educate yourself on Siachen! Siachen according to maps was unoccupied. Only thing was a few European tourists used to hike from Pakistan side. India looked at the maps. Pakistan doesn't show those maps😢 anymore. India followed the maps and occupied only a day or so before.
Dr Saheb, it is too late to realize and I doubt hindu India haters in Pak would ever accept the Kargil blunder.