Why I now backup to Tape for my Homelab
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- I bought an as-is used LTO 5 drive from someone who couldn’t test it, for the price it was on eBay I couldn’t pass it up and decided to challenge myself to see if I could at least get it working enough to try out the tape in my data backup structure. This is a more winging-it adventure into what it took to get it working and some of the challenges I faced trying to set this up in a homelab environment, as there’s not a lot of information online on integrating these into a personal homelab, I decided to post this to help point people in the right direction!
*DISCLAIMER: Unfortunately a lot of my commentary is riddled with “ums” and not as natural as I would prefer it to be when doing more unscripted content. It also has a lot of background noise as these tape drives live in server rooms and aren’t meant to run quietly! I hope this video still helps people with their own LTO Tape Adventures!
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Would you use LTO Tapes in your backup strategy for your homelab?
Totally I do! Glad to see you made the leap into LTO5 👏 I'm stuck in LTO3&4. Love putting 10+ yr old enterprise gear to work, if you treat it right it will last a good long time!
Not "woudl". I do. (However I use the fibre-channel variant, originally used in a tape library....)
@@btudrus Awesom, what generation?
@@TechShocked I started with LTO-4 just to test it and prepare some scripts. But I intend to buy LTO-6 drive for larger files like photos and videos. That way I'll abke to write to LTO-3/4/5/6 according to the data type and tapes I can actually find for sale.
Above LTO-6 the price goes exponentially high, so this is not an option yet. But maybe in a couple of years I'll look at LTO-8 then...
The FC makes it very easy to maintain several drives and not have to worry about how much space I have in a PC case. And you can actually share the drives between several computers...
I bought a used lto6, very good deal, but my h200 controller is slow, what controller are you using? I bought an ASR-8885 but art can't format LTFS fo ra block size problem
I have LTO4 +MSL2024 on year ago.
And upgrade to LTO5+LTO6 SAS this week.
This technique is very interesting but a little bit expensive
Just a comment, as for the older versions and compatibility... Linux has the most universal support for tape, more specifically Unix has a long heritage in using tapes.
Yep. I'm looking into getting one for my ProxMox Backup Server.
Few things for you to know, serial number is mostly for tape libraries you don't need it in fact most tapes you buy brand new won't have the barcode sticker, you can literally double click the video file straight from the tape, may take a few seconds for the drive to cue and find the file since tape drives struggle with non sequential reads for obvious reasons but once it finds it will play at full speed just fine can even skip ahead etc i have an LTO 6 drive currently i want to get an 8 or 9 when i can afford, oh and please get two tapes for any archive, always 2 copies at different locations ideally different brands of tape as well and nice video make some more you're very nice and enjoyable to watch :3 Also I made a video ages ago called Tape Streaming Test, you can see there what a tape drive plus a simple FTP server with a VLC client can do :)
I've learned a lot since posting this video, I'm gonna post an updated video once I consistently get my tape backup structure setup, ill check out your videos soon and appreciate the notes! When I've tried to double-click the files straight from the tape and it will seek around so much it freezes up my system, I would love to go up to an ew LTO 8 or 9 Drive also
@@TechShocked You have to be patient, sometimes can take over a minute for the drive to find the file LTFS is a bit dumb sometimes can go all the way to the end of a tape then all the way back then some more and some more until it finally finds it, now if you're not getting any drive activity then it's something with the LTFS binaries, but the file won't open/start playing until the drive is ready so literally double click and do nothing else but wait it will load and voila :) You're likely just seeing the explorer hanging because the drive isn't ready and the system can't read the file yet so it just hangs (ideally it should be a little more verbose like Seeking File.. Please Wait) I also learned a lot about LTFS over the years but I assure you LTFS is the same from LTO 5 to LTO 9 only differences are capacity and read/write speed LTO 5 can do 140mb/s LTO 6 can do 160mh/s trivial difference even, you can find the table on wikipedia about it.
Here is some information to help you. You might want to add a note to your description text to say that this is largely archiving over backup. Also the file integrity check can be done via standard hash checksum _(cyclic polynomial)._ If not using 3rd party software, your MSWindows PowerShell (e.g. 4 up) can do it before writing to the tape, after writing to the tape and after the data is taken again from the tape to that directory (folder) on your desktop, stipulating MD5 or its SHA or whatever.
Get-FileHash -Algorithm MD5
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.
I'm using lto-3 for my server since almost 10 years. But I do two additional copies on different hard drives in addition. So I have the original and then 3 copies of which 1 is to tape. As of LTO-5 there is LTFS support, so you can mount it and access it like an ordinary drive, which is awesome. My tape doesn't support LTFS (too old) so I'm still using the old fashioned tar command to do my backups. And it works great, although I might upgrade to a more modern LTO drive soon.
How would you mount this under Linux? Looking to purchase a LTO5 backup system.
Did you have to install any special drivers to get the SAS controller to detect the tape drive? I have a quantum one and all I managed to get my system to detect was the SAS controller...
Sounds like your psu
Amazing vídeo! Thanks for this, the lto tecnólogy is insane 🚀🚀🚀
How does It compare to M Disc?
LTO tapes r crazy
real this was very interesting to get working with little documentation
Ayyyy finally another homelab youtuber! Subbed!
I love it. Can i set TrueNas to do regular backups on Tape like that? But automatically.
You can, using cron jobs and scripts that use tar and dd to write the tape. Or you can install something like the free Bacula software in a Truenas jail.
Very nice video, I've been wanting to purchase a LTO drive to backup my home lab and seeing you moving data on and off has been insightful, thank you.
I would setup multiple duplicati backups to a central NAS then a Ubuntu vm with a rsync job to write changes to the LTO on a weekly basis from the network share.
I kind of want an LTO too for archival (it's not really for my lab but my friend's but eh, we utilize it shared however)
Right now we're archiving just on old HDD's. But the thing which worried me about using old LTO is, how does the software work? Do we also need an old host (like windows 7 or something) to interact with the old drives?
It'd be amazing if we could just use Linux too considering almost everything on our lab is Linux based
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hi have alot of data drive's they are very well made i have been very lucky with ebay over the years there's only on thing
windows 10 doe's not like scsi cards i have windows 7 and nova backup works ace
had a new amd b450 set up and old set up will not work i have 4 olt drives i made a silly misstake i fof got drivers why i was buying drives and they were not working when
i get the drives nova backup up dates all the drivers for you now i have 20 plus data drives all working yes i know a new bee miss take
i have a working 8 mm data drive so i been looking for old working data drives
i'm impressed by the speed of exporting. thanks for sharing.
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