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I found out that I’m pregnant today!!!
It’s still very early on but I’m praying and hoping this baby is blessed and protected and grows!
Congratulations! May God be with you and your beautiful baby
congratulations! wishing your family so much joy and wonderful memories ♡
Prayers for a healthy pregnancy ❤!! Congrats!!!
Yay!!!
Prayers for you!
ive never commented here before… but my win for the week is that today is my 3 years clean from self harm ♡
cheering you all on, in whatever stage of your healing process you are currently in. i love you!
That's awesome! I've been there and I'm going on 10 years since my last incident! You're doing great!🎉
Freeeking amazing 💚 Glad you're still here
Poverty (not alcohol ) is actually a huge factor in crime but they're not going to discuss that
Yes 🙌🏼
This is #facts
Paul and Morgan can handle discussions with atheists easier than a discussion with a "progressive" Christian. A theologically coherent argument based on scripture and church history that shows the logical flaws in P&M's politically/socially conservative theological wuzzling causes Paul especially to show uncomfortable cognitive dissonance.
That observation is spot on 💯 it’s different defending elements of your faith to someone who is actively participating in the same religion as you and is working with a similar depth of knowledge.
💯 and to go on a tangent- I finally watched the Barbie movie last night and I am sincerely MIND BLOWN at how the message of the movie, especially all of America Ferrera’s lines- went over Morgan’s and other fundie’s heads. The Barbies LITERALLY USED THE WORDS: cognitive dissonance! My husband and I continue going to a Christian church that is fundie-lite and even for them, I see why this movie ruffled their feathers 😂 to listen to those monologues though, I sincerely wonder if it resonated with Morgan deep down but she just chooses to continue living the terrible facade that she and Paul constantly post about 🫤
@@okoala62you should go watch Dav & Bethany Beal’s reaction to the Barbie Movie. Bethy responded as expected, but Dav’s take was refreshing, it was deep & philosophical review & got a lot out of the movie… he explained that he enjoys movies that really make you think…
all the while, as Dav’s talking about deep life topics, Bethy’s rolling her eyes & making faces, it was actually quite sad to watch. But I saw a side of Dav that I’ve never seen before.
Your hair looks SO cute. My win for the week was completing my first week back in college after choosing to go back at 35 to become a licensed mental health therapist. I’ve wanted to do it for a long time and finally found a way to fit it into my life & w/ the stuff I didn’t have figured out & the fear that had been holding me back I took the leap of faith. I’ve prayed SO hard for God to help me on this journey & I’ve put my fears in his hands. It was an amazing week!!!!🎉🙏🏼🥳
That’s fantastic! Congratulations! 👏🏼 this world NEEDS more licensed professionals, especially in the mental health world. Thank you for going for this and for all the great impact you will have! 🙏🏼
I’m also loving B’s hair style- so cute!
Thank you ☺️
And that is incredible, congratulations!! You’re gonna crush this 💛🎊
I love the hair, too! And good on you for getting back to school. I've been thinking about going back, too.
This feels like it was directed at me. I’m turning 35 this year and God just told me to go back to Uni and finish my degree and I’m planning to also go in the direction you’re going in. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Congrats!! I went back to school to become a therapist at 33.
1:03:21 - I just did yoga this morning, and let me tell you, I do NOT feel any kind of “demon” in me. I felt so much better, happier, stronger, and better in every way. 💯
The only "demon" I deal with when doing yoga is the one that tells me side planks are a good idea! But, I think a big reason why someone like Isaiah is so threatened by yoga is that it promotes personal empowerment, i.e. you as the practitioner are in full control of your practice.
I felt the demon of weak core when I did it yesterday. Or maybe it was the demon of post-partum recovery. I was trying to be delivered from the demon of back pain. Can't win, I guess.
I'm sorry but him unironically saying that he saw a woman crab walking on her back, head spinning 360 degrees is so funny dude like you cannot be fr right now
Not eating things that come from the ground is a weird flex... So, no potatoes? Fries? Rice? Pasta? Bread???
It’s being contrary just for the sake of contrarian nature. Exhausting
Also, how far does that “comes from the ground” extend? Does it include vegetables? Fruits that grow on trees? Animals that eat grass that grows out of the ground!
@@withcharmtospare I mean I kinda understand if you're a small child.
I was also a picky eater but I eat most of the things I didn't like. There are some things that I started to like when I was a full adult.
And you're right, he does sound very exhausting.
@@catlover2223 Exactly. Where does he draw the line? Nobody knows, he's probably just saying it to be "alpha".
Sounds like a demon to me if you don’t want to eat what God made to grow out of the ground 🤷🏼♀️😂
Something interesting about deliverance in the context of healing is that it’s not promised. I have many rare chronic illnesses and have had 20 surgeries, with more in my future. I’ve come to the realization that God is not punishing me, or necessarily trying to “keep me humble”.. there are times I think he’s allowed things to happen to foster humility in my spirit or make me understand people from a different perspective. But I’m at a place in life where I’ve talked to God about healing and he’s told me that there are things he has and will healed, but that there are things in this life I wont see healed until I’m in heaven. Feeling peaceful about not being “delivered” through pain is not a bad thing and God does not have that in everyone’s plans. I’ve always been very uncomfortable with people who try to lay hands on me or touch me and ask if their prayers for them worked- that’s not how it works. The Lord has delivered me from the performative “healing” that the church wanted me to experience any time someone said I was a warrior or would be healed. It doesn’t mean God isn’t a good God- not feeling the pressure to be healed all the time and knowing the Lord says it’s okay to be neutral has arguably been one of the most healing things that has happened to me! Sorry for the rant but this part just stood out to me! Thanks for a great video as always B!
I’ve never liked Paul more than when he’s fighting with Isaiah 😂😂😂 and that’s something I never thought I’d say
My win: I found a secondhand Bible in the free section of a thrift store called "The Metal Bible" featuring the New Testament and several musicians and other people identifying as metalheads talking about their faith and mental health, illness, addiction etc and how the faith made them stronger. I feel like this Bible was speaking to me since I'm a metalhead/goth myself who is dealing with such stuff. So I asked the staff "is this Bible really free? I can pay" but they answered, "no, I can see you want it so you should have it and besides, it's in the free section. Go ahead and take it home". I have read it for several days and starting to feel comfortable in my faith again.
Talking about P&M: I don't like them, they are wrong in so many ways. They would never accept me in the faith.
That Bible sounds so cool, what an amazing find 💛
@@BHaney Yeah, I love that it brings me closer to God because I can relate to it more than the average Bible. And it's still the real New Testament (it's the Swedish Bible 2000, I think the English equivalent is the ESV Bible), but all the themes in it are associated with verses from the NT. So it feels more real and close to home. It's an A6 size/pocket size so I carry it almost everywhere now :D
Imagine if they reached out to do a 24 hours with you 😂
I would love it!
They would NEVER. B would school Paul on every single stupid thought he's ever uttered. And back it up with receipts and a smile. 😂😂😂
Counterpoint to the "sudden and external" anger Paul was talking about - people with ADHD have difficulty regulating their emotions and can flare up with anger at the smallest inconvenience. It's usually quickly followed by confusion and guilt, as it does feel like it comes from nowhere and it's not you. It's something I myself struggled with a lot and got upset about until I got diagnosed and learned more about it.
Not saying Paul has ADHD, and I'm sure there are other causes for that kind of flare-up (like anxiety), but any chance to rebuttual Isaiah's demon talk.
Paul has talked about his adhd in the past! Nice observation
It’s really hard to watch this channel because whenever Paul talks I immediately dissociate
😂
Literally same though🧍♀️
I am mostly healed from my sex change surgery (vaginoplasty), and am reorganizing many things in my life. Transitioning female took 9 years, the mental health benefits of being done is incredible (I'm in my fifties). I enjoy listening to your videos on my weekly walks. I like how you think. Now you know, you have a trans woman viewer.
I'm really happy for you! ❤
Congrats 😍❤️ I am so happy for you!!!🎉
Congrats sister. ❤ I'm six years in myself, best thing I've ever done.
“Don’t do any yoga poses because it’s demonic and the devil doesn’t care about your intentions but also stretch your body for as long as you need to in any way you want.”
….that’s so unbelievably contradictory that I literally do not understand how someone could say that out loud and not have a mini epiphany.
Then again I guess I feel that way about a lot of things guys say lol
Right! "Stretch however you want, but not that way, that way's demonic." I would hope that the devil had higher priorities than how I am or am not stretching lol
@@raven_moonshine39 I mean what if they do a yoga pose while stretching that they didn’t know was a yoga pose?? Does the demon cackle at their ignorance and immediately possess since intentions don’t matter? Shouldn’t they then study yoga to the Master Instructor level so they know everything NOT to do? I mean if the consequence is full on demonic possession I would think one would do/learn absolutely everything possible to prevent that, especially if it’s something so clear as a specific body contortion. I stood in a flamingo pose for like half my pharmacy career because standing in one place for several hours is painful, so can I go ahead and do some other yoga poses anyway because I’m obviously already possessed? Does doing half a yoga pose count or does it have to be the whole thing; and if the latter, does that mean I can do a full pose but then like throw a pinky out of place or something so that it’s no longer “correct”??
SO MANY WAYS this is crazy I can’t even 😂😂
And then he pokes fun at people who think they’re walking through the mall and get a demon from listening to a song- dude you set up the confusion!!
Not eating anything that came out of the ground?? His very limited diet can't have anything to do with his constant pain right?
As a person that was involved in a cult-like deliverance ministry/home church, Isaiah's teachings are spreading like wild fire and are concerning. The group that I got out of, were following the teachings of Torben Sondergaard (huge following like Iasiah) and the folks in my county now have offshoot "ministries" because none of them agree on anything. Lots of spiritual ab**e like holding people down in their baptism to get the demons to come out. That happened to me while 7 months pregnant. I am safe along with my husband and both of my children. There are so many stories while being involved with these people and we are finally starting to open up about it after 3 years. I know that the two offshoot ministries in my area have their own podcasts/youtube channels which is crazy.
This isnt just disagreeing on secondary beliefs it is truly dangerous what people take from these teachings and they run with it.
My win is that I am not in a cult anymore! yay!
My win: I'm a Jazzercise instructor and we always do a February Challenge (24 classes in February) and I LOVE it so I'm always extra excited at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb.
That’s so fun! I hope you have a great February challenge 💪🏼🎉
I haven't watched yet but your thumbnail game is slaying so hard these last few videos. I love it so so much!
Thank you!! 😅
my win for the week: I am a week away from my first Brazilian jiu jitsu competition, so I've completed the hard part of my training and focus on staying healthy this week. I'm very excited and very nervous.
Good luck! Hope everyone is safe and has fun!
My win for the week was last night actually when my church was having their annual worship night. worship is so important to me and last night was just so healing.
There’s something about being in the presence of God with others
@@naomi9449 very true. It's something else
My win for the week is submitting my first official deliverable at my new job! I was so anxious about it and I am so happy that I’m keeping up and learning quickly.
So... Saying Beyonce has the spirit of Jezebel is pretty racist, right? I mean, it's obviously been pretty sexist historically but the connotations of black women being seductive Jezebels is also a pretty old, racist caricature. It's also infuriating hearing about it in general because the defense of a femme presenting person being a Jezebel has been used against assault victims (including children).
My win for the week: I finished making the other 5 squares I need for a 3x3 baby blanket! I just need to sew 3 more together
@5:00 100000% - I sincerely believe THAT right there is Paul & Morgan’s whole reasoning and their “why” in regard to their RUclips and social media platforms: for exposure, views and to make a living on that. That’s definitely been my impression of them- as a Christian myself, they just do not come off to me as genuine Christians who are using their platform to spread the Word of God- they are using their platform and THEIR version of God’s Word to get fame and fortune out of it. Ooooh - I feel a monologue!
their reaction to Shiny Happy People. While Morgan started that video with a nice-sounding “disclaimer” at the start, notice how their frustration, anger, and indignation was largely against the producers of that documentary and how their actions affected THEM (Paul and Morgan) - BUT THEY DID NOT PORTRAY AS MUCH ANGER OR INDIGNATION AT THE EVIL MONSTERS AND ENVIRONMENT THAT CAUSED THE PAIN THE DOCUMENTARY SOUGHT TO EXPOSE! I could tell Paul and Morgan really expected to “blow up” in popularity and followers after participating in that project😒
Paul and Morgan just really are not likable to me - their racist, homophonic and harshly judgmental commentaries just really push me away more.
But what do I know?! Just an average Christian here! 🙃 lol
Win for the week (and encouraging prayers accepted): I've been unemployed since before Thanksgiving and just had a really important interview on Friday. If I get this job it could be a big win for my family.
Isaiah: yoga is Bad because it is based on worshipping Hindu gods
Also Isaiah: yoga is Bad because it is New Age
Is it just me, or does he seems like he is conflating New Age and an ancient eastern religion very haphazardly? Like, I know lots of people who practice New Age spirituality do tend to take aspects from Eastern religions without actually understanding their significance and appropriating them into their spiritual practices, but here it genuinely seems like Isaiah just doesn't differentiate between these belief systems at all.
It's easier to be dogmatic about your own beliefs when you know nothing about anything outside of them. These people are hothoused from childhood
As a pagan I really appreciate you differentiating between the Christian concept of paganism as anything not Christian and actual pagan religions.
1:05:55 - I WANT NAMES! Bring them onto the podcast, Isaiah. Because I don't believe you've had "so many" ex-yoga teachers talking about how the poses aren't healthy for you. Because we had at one point a 96 year old yoga instructor in our area who was still teaching classes at 96 who I'm sure would have loved to have heard what they had to say.
My mother is a progressive christian that says bible verses and stories don't matter to her anywhere near as much as the modern-day applications of the teachings of Jesus (as were plenty of other people in the progressive christian church that I was raised in).
When I was in late elementary school, we moved from the small neighborhood church that was undergoing a leadership crisis to a larger church within the same denomination and my mother was caught off guard that our Sunday school time was spent learning bible stories and memorizing bible passages because she didn't feel that was a meaningful way of teaching christian values.
Learning the bible, as a text, was of such low priority in the church I grew up that I didn't even realize that certain things - the concept of the apocalypse being a big one - were actually in the bible until I was an adult atheist seeking to understand why the christianity I was raised in seemed so divergent from the religious beliefs of that many conservative christians were asserting as givens of christianity.
Ooo, I had a somewhat similar experience. I was raised in the United church, which is super progressive (affirming, big on inter faith cooperation/learning, etc), but went to a church with a very old congregation - ergo, some of the stuff associated with the United church at large, eg pride flags, weren't really a feature. We got lots of Bible stories and verses, but they always came with modern-day applications. Our Reverend was fantastic, lots of his sermons were very philosophical and reflecting on how to respond to current events with the compassion for the oppressed & the underdog that he believed Jesus exemplified. One thing in particular I think would freak out Christians of Paul and Morgan's ilk is when we masking taped a giant labyrinth in the basement and our Reverend held evenings to walk and meditate/pray while going through the labyrinth. I think they would find that too pagan.
When I was in my late teens, I went to a Catholic high school and after that ended up going on a trip to the Holy Land with the Alliance Church. I was shocked at the beliefs both these very different interpretations of Christianity presented as normal and mainstream. While in high school I could shrug it off with the belief that Catholics were conservative and Protestants progressive, but the Alliance church completely shattered that belief and I had to do some big wrestling with my basic beliefs about religion (it's worth noting I was atheist before going on the trip, but went on a combination of a recommendation from a friend and the belief that most Christians were the progressive ones I grew up with). Not only was there more emphasis on Bible stories that had never really been focal in my church (we had lots of parables, lots of Pentateuch, and lots of Isaiah iirc), but I was shocked at the literal interpretation of books such as Revelation, which had never been presented to me as literal. It was very distressing for me. Also as a side note, I am queer, and 18 year old was very depressed. It was an extremely painful trip in many ways, as I would have to bite my tongue and listen to lots of homophobia and other beliefs that truly disturbed and hurt me to my core, and all of these coming from people who on a superficial level were very nice and kind.
This was also my first and only experience with charismatic Christianity, and I don't mind saying it freaked the crap out of me. I had gone on this optional dinner held with a family the trip leader knew in West Bank, and the dinner and company part was lovely. Afterwards, entirely unforewarned and unexpectedly, they had a speaking in tongues sort of ritual. All of these people I had been travelling with and talking to were shaking and crying and spouting gibberish. At that time I didn't even know what charismatic Christianity was. It scared me quite a bit.
Needless to say, this trip obliterated my very rosy view of Christianity. I am extremely grateful for my childhood experiences, and how kind and safe they were. These childhood experiences are a big portion of helping me from not becoming one of those atheist's who are very condescending towards all people of any religion, and use unfair generalizations to justify that. It's a religion with over a billion believers, so obviously the range of what people believe within it is going to be vast. On the one hand, who have people like my parents, my old Reverend, B Haney, who are rational and compassionate and whose interpretation of religion helps bolster these qualities. On the other hand, you have people whose beliefs cause active harm to their constituents and society at large, and a whole spectrum in between.
Sorry that got a bit rambly, I probably just should have made a new comment instead of this being in your replies oops :/
Isaiah does definitely make Morgan and Paul way more likable 😂 so maybe they won’t get support from the hyper charismatic people they want it from but this is making them way more likeable lol
My win was my cat starting to eat on his own again! He came down with pancreatitis in late December and had a feeding tube in for most of January, but he's finally getting it out tomorrow. ❤
Does Isaiah ever just plain state that he believes Hindu gods are demons, or does he just repeatedly imply it?
That's very much what I was getting
He calls the practise of yoga "satanic" or "demonic"
and mention how it's a tradition to greet Hindu Gods
so it's pretty much implied...
I think ppl like him believe the gods of any other religion are really just "demons" leading ppl astray
I've been in deconstruction for a while, so I'm a little rusty on Bible knowledge, but the idea that a Christian can be possessed *is* rebuked in the Bible in the Parable of the Empty House.
In the parable, Jesus talks about the Spirit of the Lord leaving a house, at which point a demon can return. But the demon can't go in while the Spirit is there.
^this! It blows me away how often I hear many modern evangelical (by their dogmas) outright contradict the words of Jesus Himself.
Also, I don’t want to slip into “no true Scotsman” fallacies, but there is something to be said for those who think they are Christians but actually are not. However, the lynchpin is whether or not Christ lives in them. That being said, I also acknowledge that declaring so is very controversial, even “offensive”, because it can be perceived as a statement of elitism. But at the very least I believe it is Biblically sound to say, one who has been claimed by Christ cannot be inhabited by unclean spirits.
Sooooo... is it just me, or is it kind of gross when they include their young son in their pleas for Patrons? Seems a bit manipulative.
Speaking of which - how are they financing this? I assume they pay for their own flights, but do they stay with the person they're spending 24 hours with? Who pays for the meals? I would think P+M would, since it's their project, but if they're only targeting larger creators... so many questions. Maybe they mentioned this somewhere and I just missed it.
I’d guess they’re paying for all that with donations or credit 😬 the people they’re featuring probably make more money than them but I can’t imagine they’d ask them to foot any of the bills…at least I hope they wouldn’t!!
Isn’t it “interesting” that in order to “prove” their non-misogynistic use of calling out jezebel spirts that, “Oh, men can have the spirit in them, too.” So even then, it’s the mischievous, devious spirit named after a woman that is “afflicting the man. Can women get the Spirit of David?
My win for the week is that the Lord is slowly but surely healing a pinched nerve.
Lmao Greg Locke is unhinged seriously 😅😅😅😅
Edit: I saw a clip of him trying to explain how owls were the demon Lilith or some sort of foolishness like that 🫠
win of the week: i taught my dog a new trick!! it's been a work in progress but yesterday she did it for the first time! just a simple "lay down" command, but it's still pretty exciting haha
My win for the week is adopting a rescue dog.
My win for the week is finishing my second month as a licensed, clinical mental health therapist, and starting my doctorate to become a psychologist. Your hair is adorable!
This whole video feels like it’s the opposite of their goal of “unifying Christians”. It feels like it’s mostly Isaiah talking trash about other Christians while Paul weakly tries to push back and immediately gets shut down, because Isaiah is not open to even listening to something he doesn’t agree with. It is a little nice to see Paul get a taste of his own medicine though, since usually he’s the one shutting other people down and refusing to listen…
My win of the week:
Since moving away for music school I wasnt able to do the kids minestry at my church. Its on a tuesday so Im away at school. But since its the end of the semester I was able to join again and have a fun time with the kids. Its awesome to see them grow up.
People like Isaiah are extremely dangerous. They are preying on people with mental or emotional issues. Severe depression should be treated with proper medical care, including medication and therapy. If you believe in prayer, prayer can help, but it's so much more complicated than that.
God made science and equips doctors!
Nobody is "preying on" anybody. That is not an accurate description of our brother in Christ. God still heals! Some people ARE healed from severe depression, and God will NEVER turn away anyone who seeks Him, but it is important to be wise. This looks like different things for different people. Depression can be very complicated. I think we can all agree it's important NOT to do this alone! ❤
Just found your channel today and really enjoying it! Most commentary I hear on these sorts of creators comes from people who have left Christianity, so it's really helpful to hear a progressive Christian's perspective.
My win for the week is that I cut off a person who was treating me rather poorly. A weight has been lifted after a year of turmoil.
The next episode is with Dave and Bethy.
I’m sorry but that is so weird, “I don’t eat things from the ground.” I hope he’s just joking. No potatoes even? That sounds miserable lol
I sure hope he is because…like, what? Lol
Especially when he was talking about burgers and French toast, I wanted to be like, you do know that bread is made from wheat which grows from the ground right (I'm actually kind of surprised Paul didn't pull a devil's advocate on that)? That is just such a weird thing to be so proud of if it's not a joke.
It's giving 'vegetables are for the weaker sex'.
So...with his logic...does he only eat birds??? Because pigs and most animals spend most of their time on the ground :'3
This whole chat about yoga is so interesting to me. There is a Christian organization called Holy Yoga. They have classes that you can go to at different churches. I wonder what Isaiah would say about that.
Saying yoga is demonic and chiropractic is not is cognitive dissonance at a whole other level. I don't think either are, by the way. They both have roots in Eastern mythology.
I would really love to get to know Paul and Morgan as people. As human beings. I would want to get close, share feelings and secrets and see if they're really like this. Then after years of close friendship reveal that I'm an atheist who is non binary and actively child free. Hopefully then we could have good discussions and maybe they could understand a different point of view. I don't know why but I've always had this idea.
I love your videos for two reasons. I really like your commentary as an interested atheist. And you voice is so soothing. I have a hard time sleeping but i listen to random videos from you among a few others to fall a sleep. Not that you are boring 😉
My win for the week is that my youngest brother passed his last class and is now officially a Corpsman for the Navy, and all of my family is very proud of him.
I always appreciate your commentary; it’s both gracious and insightful 😊
Pet peeve: the "we" are pregnant thing
This whole project feels like two people arguing over whether or not the color in a painting is dark blue or indigo.
Addendum: Paul and Morgan's video, I mean. This video was good.
It’s weird … right off the get-go, with Isaiah teaching his children … the serpent didn’t tell Adam and Eve TO eat the fruit “even though God said not to”. The serpent questioned them what God said and then told them God left out some details about the fruit. But Eve and Adam both *of their own conclusions* chose to eat the fruit.
So basically it seems to me that Isaiah doesn’t trust God’s Word as-is to be enough. He has to “modify” parts of the narrative to fit what he wants his listeners (in this case, his children) to believe. (Granted, this could be subconscious on his part.) 🤔
::FINAL (I think 😂) ADD-ON:: I get the impression (1:43:00 ish) that Isaiah doesn’t believe humans can be truly wicked without being possessed. Weirdly though this is a major problem because that would mean humans aren’t fully responsible for their own actions. I find this very troubling. “It was the devil in me that made me do it!”
… I can’t believe how often I was agreeing with Paul’s challenges in these interactions. 🫣. (FWIW, been responding in real time while watching.)
I really appreciate your positive and generous takes on these people. I tend to enjoy hate watching, but your content leaves me feeling better than many others and more at peace with my own problematic Christian upbringing
21:31 and just prior to it, the constant tick-tock-tick-tock of the car's turn signal was driving me BONKERS! Anyone else?!
You’re correct, I did not know how right I was about origins of chiropractic until I looked it up later😆 Imagine my shock and delight hahaha
Since y'all are here congratulations on the new baby!
@@TaylorX3 thank you!
I will say adding that screenshot in was a great “aha!” edit! Lol
Like Taylor said, congratulations on your second baby! Praying for a smooth pregnancy and healthy delivery for your family 💛
@@BHaney 🙏🙏
To be clear, "Christian" in these contexts is "Protestant", correct? I don't think I've heard Catholicism engaged at all.
48:42 - Yes!! Interruption is the worst.. wait your turn to talk and fully listen to the person before speaking and interrupting .
The main thing that I feel about Pastor Isaiah is that it's ALL ABOUT HIM. His entire conversion story is about how he was really convinced that this whole Christianity thing was going to give him this MASSIVE PURPOSE. And not just any purpose - but a purpose of being prophetic and a literal demon slayer. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm sure all of this is very meaningful to him, and that it was all very REAL for him - and - when you're coming from a life where you didn't feel purpose, where you didn't feel significance, where you didn't feel like your life had direction - to all of a sudden having this MASSIVE vision of becoming this celebrity preacher - of course you're going to want to lean into that.
It all just feels very SELF focused, rather than him really seeming like he wants to serve others. But maybe that's just me and my vision of it.
Paul and Morgan have their issues for sure, and are quite problematic - and I can also really see that Isaiah is so deeply unwavering on his beliefs - this is his LIFE SOURCE that all of this stuff is REAL and means what he thinks it means...
Baffles me that Paul tells him to not be so black and white about things… but there are so many instances in their channel where P&M have been black and white on topics.
Hi B! I so appreciate that you blur out faces of kids. I haven't seen you do it quite this way before and wanted to let you know it's not as effective as actual blurring. I'm guessing it rendered differently than it looked in your editing software, so wanted to make sure you know! Thanks for everything you do. Also - on a totally different topic - I'd love to invite you onto my podcast. Are you currently considering pitches?
I think so also. You can still somewhat see the kids, but at the same time, you can't see what's going on. Granted, this is also a podcast. And it's really not a huge deal to me. But I did notice it. Love B's commentary, though, and weird blurring would never turn me off. ❤
My biggest take away so far is the constant talking over each other is really cringy and uncomfortable for me, due to the family dynamics I grew up in. No one is *listening*
They both want to control the convo and hear the sound of their own voice, and they both have to be right. Paul being "playful" is a defense mechanism for sure. Also interesting how the men are doing all of the talking & morgan isn't really contributing...smh sad since she's better at talking to ppl than both of them put together.
Yeah, the few times Morgan (and Isaiah's wife, too honestly) did talk I wanted to hear more of what she had to say, but no it's more important that we hear the men folk talk at each other😒
The twisting of "well the Holy Spirit is in a different part of your body than a demon" is BIZARRE to me. Never mind the fact that none of the people that Jesus cast demons out of where believers and had received the Holy Spirit but... I guess that's just an inconvenient fact.
Edited to add after finishing the video: I really think Isaiah wouldn't believe I'm a "real" Christian. I'm secure in my beliefs but we disagree on almost everything 😅
Omg your hair is super cute!!!!
Thank you ☺️
BTW, my daughter has worked at Starbucks the last years & that company is so anti-political, they have meetings often that train employees that they are prohibited from expressing religious or political beliefs at work (or off work in uniform), even if asked. The mother Starbucks company has sued the offshoots (like Target Starbucks, who bought rights to the affiliation but have different ownership) for saying certain religious/political opinions. Starbucks looks out for #1, which is their brand, & they would never chance hurting their brand name; people pay like $9 for a cup of their coffee b/c of their brand name. They literally beat it into their employee’s heads with constant training sessions & have super strict rules (for example… my daughter has pens that have generic religious sayings on them such as “Love is the greatest of these”… which she knows are absolutely prohibited in her place of work). Political or religious clothing, jewelry, accessories, etc, are absolutely forbidden & there is zero wiggle room.
I don’t really get why the hate for Starbucks from Christians is (I dislike them cuz they’re too expensive for me!), but Christians often hear propaganda & believe everything they hear & get carried away.
I wish Isaiah would give specific passages to back up what he says more. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not well versed in the bible. I was a cradle catholic and went through confirmation, I also have a literature degree and have read a few of the apocryphal texts (simply because you have to know those references to understand so much of English speaking literature), but that's as far as my in depth knowledge goes. I don't have the bible memorized and there's huge sections that I have no idea what they're about. But still there are certain things that he pulls out like "Literally the bible says everyone in this world is under Satan's control" that make me stop and go, where does it say that? What verse? If he can give me a verse then, cool, I'll believe him, but until then, that's just a line that I never heard growing up and just feels like the kind of fire and brimstone thing that some pastors toss out to scare people into going to church. Or maybe I just grew up in a very different church environment and our priests skimmed over that bit. I don't know and I won't know until he gives me specific passages.
Is Paul’s voice like abnormally deep? It’s like he’s dropped an octave for Isaiah.
Also: I thought this 24hr concept was to introduce more of the WHY these people are the extreme ways they are… I didn’t really get a why from Isaiah besides that he was an atheist and heard the voice of god. They didn’t get to the why of his extreme beliefs, really? They just argued. It was like “watch us argue and try to articulate our own points for 24hrs.” 🤔
My win is being diagnosed with Sibo after months of dealing with some pretty severe stomach problems and that my insurance is covering the very expensive medication I was prescribed for it. Insurance companies apparently often times don't cover that medication, so I was really worried.
1:33:02 - They need to stop calling people demonic. They’re not… Beyoncé and Taylor Swift are not demonic. 😒
Bailey Merch! My win of the week was getting to enjoy a week of spring weather in January! I live in Southern Alberta and so January is often very cold and snowy- it was nice to be able to wear loafers and skirts rather than boots and winter coats! Great video and great fashion today :)
My win for the week is I cut bangs and I love it hehe
You're brave! I always see those vids where they cut them too short. I bet yours look great!
I know Paul and Morgan most likely aren't watching this, but one point of feedback I'd give them on this series is in line with your windshield camera in the car suggestion--at 1:27:13 I'd like to see them set the camera up on a tripod at the end of the table to film all three of them instead of passing the camera back and forth when they each have questions. It was the same in the dining room of Isaiah's house, now that I think about it. Instead of Paul taking the camera from Morgan when she starts talking, if they had had the camera on a tripod filming the table then we can see all of them and allow for the conversation to flow naturally without it being one of them talking to Isaiah at a time. I'm honestly kind surprised they didn't do that, now that I think about it, because they must use a tripod at home when they film, so why didn't they bring it with them? I don't know, that's just something I noticed that would take the videos from "youtuber" to professional series I think.
Obsessed with these new thumbnails B 🤣
Thank you! 🙏🏼😂
Same! Such a treat! 🙌🏼😆
My win for the week is that my Bell's Palsy that I came down with on New Years Day is about 70% cleared up already! I'm hoping for a better February!
I’m so glad it’s clearing up!! Rooting for even more improvement in February 💛
@@BHaney Thank you!
No Isaiah,if you are born again and filled w the Holy Spirit,you can not be possessed by a demon 🙄
I went to Dr. Michael Brown’s school of ministry in Charlotte, NC when it was still in operation and he ABSOLUTELY will call someone out if he feels it’s necessary. I don’t agree with a lot of the things Dr. Brown says and does, but he truly knows the Word and is typically theologically sound. If Dr. Brown is someone that Isaiah is held accountable to, that’s a very good thing to hear.
I would use much stronger words than asinine to describe the belief that yoga causes demons.
Yoga IS good for you - the one time I agree with Paul.
It’s so interesting how Isaiah believes that everything he likes is of God, but things he doesn’t like or want to do are allowing demons. I literally cannot wrap my brain around how anyone would believe the things he’s spouting.
Paul is so homophobic that even the idea of demons inside of him makes his masculinity feel fragile 😂
Can i just ask, in the nicest way possible, what was the point of Morgan also going? All she seemed to be there for was to film and uncomfortably laugh? Like Paul, if you just want to hang out with your content bros, go on a BD style retreat for a long weekend so you can sniff each other's farts. Doesn't M suffer enough already? (I'm no fan of hers, but the second hand cringe i get from her hurts)
Win for the week was going grocery shopping and staying on list also love the facial expression!!
My win for the week: My cat had tooth surgery a few weeks ago which had complications and required another surgery a week later. Well, it had more complications (a growth at the surgery site) and was supposed to have another surgery today. But! The growth fell off? It just disappeared! So she doesn't have to do more surgery and I get to save $600! A Christmas miracle!
I am near the end of the video.. and I don’t fully agree with “why take critism from someone I wouldn’t take advice from?”
I think that line of thinking is smart to an extent.. don’t let some stranger on the internet ruin your day/mental health.. but it can also be a slippery slope into becoming an “echo chamber” when you only listen to people similar to you.. that’s just my opinion. I think you can take constructive feedback from people with differing lifestyles, points of view, etc. without compromising your faith.
I think his reaction was a little defensive and overall close-minded, but he obviously wouldn’t care about my opinion 😅
omg the way my you brighten up my day in the best way possible-my heart skips a beat every time you post and i MEAN IT. I be like "yayyyyyy B posted" ur like my fav Christian youtuber 😝😝
Perfect discussion material for that Bailey Sarian merch 😂 My win for the week is getting my ADHD diagnosis
So, if, according to them, Hinduism is “demonic,” is it because it’s polytheistic, or do they just believe every other religion is demonic? Just so xenophobic, toxic, and hateful!
My heart hurts so much for morgan. She needs more love and support for her mental health. I dont necessarily like her, but my heart aches for her and i so wish i could give her a hug and help. She deserves more in my opinion. More oppurtunitys to learn and grow and love without the christian lens.
It’s also a little satisfying to see Paul roasted by somebody’s religious certainty served with a side of mocking superiority. Nothing like sitting across from someone that thinks they’re holier than you but willing to accept your shortcomings. “We don’t have to hate each other because we disagree about certain things.” Sure Paul, we just have to smile nicely while we belittle and dismiss them.
Ex-Christian here, and I love your channel. I was listening rather than watching (and still came here to comment!) so didn't see Paul's awkwardness, but really heard him trying to do a good job actually. I was thinking 'fair play, you want a discussion and have valid points, it's Saldavor who's being childish and interrupting/shouting you down.' Also when Morgan just takes a giggly back seat I really want her to step up instead. I think it's a really interesting project from P&M, good for them! I'm looking fwd to more.
Thank you so much!!
And I agree, I felt like Paul was trying to just have an open conversation but Isaiah was just dead set on forcing his opinion on them.
Oh I’ve been waiting for this one!! So good to see you B!
Never is there a name shared it’s always I know someone and a link to his video about the bird lady
Says a lot about Isaiah that Paul starts to sound reasonable. Isaiah seems very immature because he CANNOT let people talk without interjecting if he disagrees. He comes across very defensive and petulant. It’s also clear that he really believes he’s right about all the things he says he’s right about and wouldn’t change even in the face of hard evidence. He appears very arrogant, lacking in self-awareness, and seems just plain obnoxious to interact with. He literally just needs to be right all the time which…. That’s not a conversation anymore, it’s a fight.. about everything 🥲
Almost a 2 hour video 😍 very blessed lol
Im really sorry to say this but hearing Morgan in the background giggling like a little girl is so infuriating
Win for the week: I’ve kept up with my water intake and I’ve lost a few pounds since I started working out and being more health conscious.
I do enjoy how open you are, and your commentary, and just wanted to share that 😊
That’s great! I hope your body is feeling good with all that hydration and nutrition 😊🎉
And thank you 💛
Psychologists say that many adults suck their thumbs as a self-soothing behavior. I think most reasonable people would not agree that it has anything to do with demons.
On the yoga convo. All of Isaiah’s information is inaccurate. The asana (yoga poses) are one part of the 8 limbs of yoga. The first is mindfulness then breathing. One could go to a yoga class, sit on their mat and just breathe. That would be considered yoga. Yoga is expressly not a religious practice either, which is why the Hindus don’t care if everyone practices. It’s a way of life that has 8 parts to it that all work collectively to help us live life from a place of awareness and love. As for his comment that former teachers he knows said some poses are unhealthy: they clearly never heard of modifications and of what yoga really is which is doing what is right for you within the practice. Any teacher worth their salt would encourage you to modify even to the point of skipping the pose in order to protect your body. Yoga is a personal practice that you are guided through (if you choose to attend classes) but ultimately you decide what your body can do and every teacher is taught to honor that. Having taken a 200 hour training and being certified to teach, it seems to me that the people telling him things either didn’t understand or developed incorrect ideas and conclusions along the way. People who are responsibly religious don’t seem to have issues with yoga and more people who practice responsibly come away more vital and tranquil over time so it strikes me as very ignorant to spew the biased fundy take on it as if it is truth.
we need to make like a bingo card for these videos 😂