Lion-O ThunderCats Ultimates Super7 Figure Review
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In 35 years, no company got any closer than this..I dont think I can pass, at least on the core characters..this is now or never..
Your totally right and the next wave will be amazing once there is nothing to compare these to.
I think thats the problem ...we compare to the mattel figure ...its a super 7 figure now so it will be different , the only way to get one that looks like the mattel version is to buy one ... it is what it is at the end of the day ...if super 7 didnt go ahead & make these , we would be stuck with just a couple of the team .... especially when cheetara tygra & jaga are released .i dont want to look back thinking i missed an opportunity when this line grows ... so yep ,im backing it & see where we go with it ... 😊
Should compare with Sota Street Fighter figure. It is way better.
Yep i dont even collect the cats buy i grabed this on preorder couldnt pass
I think that Super 7 screwed the pooch with the hands, it seems to me that the original plan was to have a pair of gripping hands that would have the horizontal hinge and the other one was suposed to have a vertical hinge articulation but somehow they ended up just packaging in 2 pairs of hands that are the same (I dont think that the grip is any different), its little things like these that always bother me specially since a vertical hinged pair of hands would have been great for this figure. BTW I kind of like the paint deco on the Mattel headsculpt better than this one, its a little sharper in the eyes and the wash on the hair makes it look a little better.
Exactly, horizontal hinge like the prototype.
Super sauce
Just received my shipping notice for this wave. Not happy that you're reporting floppy joints, Dan. This figure costs too much for that.
R u planning on posing him bent over
@@Charmander009 Irrelevant. No action figure should have rag doll joints!
Lion-O has those unsightly gaps on his torso again, what happened with that?
Watching this review made me go dig mine out and actually open it and check it out. The hands were surprisingly soft plastic. All of the points of articulation are good on mine. But the one thing well maybe two things I didn't like was the hairy claw shield didn't have a removable sword as well as a hole to put the closed sword in. So that cuts out some poses as well as none of the hands could hold either claw shield.
I prefer The Sword of Omens from Super 7 but Mattels face is more accurate to the cartoon Lion-O. It seems ALL of Super 7 figs have some loose joint issues. You would think they would have this fixed by now.
I wish neca would do cartoon accurate Thundercats like the tmnt line (maybe you could run that by randy) lol
Thats what I was expecting. !!
Just secured one today and getting it monday. I haven't been this excited since i was like 5
Love this Super 7 ThunderCats Lion-O figure 😍, he is an awesome looking figure and cool to see the comparison between the Mattel and Super 7 figures, you think they would give more variation in the extra hands, but would definitely buy him ☺💙
Great review Dan! Really looking forward to these but man the QC for Super 7 sucks sometimes. I know every company has issues but for their initial line aqcuired from Mattel you'd think they'd be darn near perfect imo. No way an ab-joint should be like that on an almost $50 figure. I do agree though that a variant in original LJN colors would be pretty sweet, lol.
Given the qc issues with floppy loose joints that super 7 always has i dont think any of their figures should cost 45 dlls.
@Mephisto Emperor that should be the price at BEST, really should be $25 on average, maybe if they cut on doing the extremely extravagant packaging they do (which I like that they do that but if it's cuts into the time and budget for engineering these to be better figures... than I'll take some more basic packaging), maybe that'll help save some of the the cost on these toys.
Someone in this comment section was saying that this Super7 Lion-O is better than the TMNT Ultimates here are some of my thoughts on that and some new ones added here and there for context.
There is room for some arguments, but ultimately no. The Raphael figure has problems but from what I've seen, it's a newly sculpted figure that actually tried doing something that some TMNT toys hasn't done before like the waist joint Super7 did, loose but could be improved in future waves (dear god I hope they get improved). This looks exactly like the Mattel figure, which was OK AT BEST for the PRICE they sold it for originally which was $30, the Super7 Lion-O is anywhere from $45 to $80 depending on the shipping and taxes as well as potentially customs if ordered from outside the US. This was supposed to greatly improved upon what Mattel did, if not a whole other beast of a toy with the potential greatness that Four Horsemen can bring.
Like I said earlier, there's definitely room for arguments, the TMNT Ultimates have problems and quite a bit of issues I find not worth base $45 (MINIMUM) but they don't seem quite as bad this and I still see more reason to buy the TMNT Ultimates than this. At least they're doing what they were advertising their TMNT figures as, remakes of the original Playmates TMNT toys that no one but Playmates has tried doing before, The Mattel toys were basically the original remakes so Super7 could've added significantly more on to what standard has been set before if not make a new and better toy altogether.
That and I believe at least the Raphael Ultimate is significantly better than this figure, the TMNT Ultimates looks like it could be some of their best engineered and sculpted toys in general when compared to what they've made before in this scale and I still think they got to do extremely better with the articulation and quality of them.
I say this as I want the Super7 Thundercats and all their Ultimates as a whole to be better than what they are now for paying customers, especially for the price point that they are asking for MINIMUM ($45).
To add to this comment, vastly improving their Ultimates across the board would actually be both good for paying customers as well as Super7.
Better figures will almost always guarantee better sales, the Raphael Ultimate that I feel is one of Super7's best figures ever made (one which I still have issues with it's looseness, paint job here and there and that the articulation still could be so much better than what it is now) has sold very well and has quite a bit of demand for a re-release. I emailed Super7 Support to see if they had any left in stock in their stores or any warehouses and responded back with a no but said they've been discussing internally for re-releasing Raphael. Whether they will or not I do not know, but it shows to me that again better made toys get better sales.
It's as much for their sake as much as it is ours, I actually want to support this company and want them to succeed, I want them to make or remake toys that are very much worth the asking price, if not made cheaper while maintaining better quality so it could lead to more customers! But as it stands they really aren't there yet, Super7 has the potential to be be really really good and so I would like for them to get there as soon as possible.
dan, just got my lion-o, the mid torso joint is not wobbly at all, thankfully. So maybe not an issue with everyone else either.
I am glad that you compared it with the vintage one which I have. It means they will scale perfectly!!! Great content.
I’m buying this because of the extra accessories and the fact that you can actually wear the claw and the sword at the same time because the one Mattel did you couldn’t take the sword out of the claw.
I love his more cartoon accurate version of the figures
I can't be the only that can see randy Orton's face in the regular super 7 model haha and his in battle mode looks like Zack Morris from saved by the bell
I wish they would do what they are doing with MOTU walmart. Still hoping they will rerelease original Thundercats. Can't go for these, too expensive.
Got mine today. Joints in mine are tight, not at all floppy. No major paint issues. Only thing I will say against this figure is concerning the peg that holds the claw-shield to his belt. Mine broke right off when I removed the shield from his hip. I intend to display mine wearing the claw shield so it didn't bother me, but still, for a figure like this that is something that shouldn't happen.
I just got mine and the figure wasn't loose anywhere at all however the peg that holds on to the gauntlet broke off within seconds of taking it out of the package
This guy deserves a million subscribers
Mine is ok with abs, but have you noticed that the little peg on the belt is really fragile... If you clip not frontaly it breaks easily!
Plus, the furry claw has the hole opposite done: - little hole towards the peg and the big hole on the outside... You cant clip without enlarge a bit with a cutter for toys.
Late to the game and cannot afford to spend $1000+ on MOSC vintage. Just ordered the first wave and preordered the other 3 waves. Imagine if they did a Thundertank and Cats Liar to go with this line 🙏🏻 great video bro!
The packaging is beautiful. He looks absolutely purfect 👌 hope the main group is just as good and eventually get a Thundertank😻 Thundercats HO!!!
And I pre-ordered snake mountain... i dread quality control issues...
the paint on the super7 face looks sloppy compared to the mattel one. makes the face look odd. cool review as always dan. I think I'll wait to see what wav 2 is like. since there afew new original molds
Liono is in the mail and I can’t wait for Mummra
@pixelDan will the Mummra figure in wave 2 be sold seperately? It's the only one in the wave I want, actually in the entire line.
As I didn't Got the original Matteo one I'm glad to have ordered that version, but I still haven't got mine even though it's still more than a year I ve ordered and paid for it. I'm also surprised to see so much loose joint at the torso, I really hope it's not for the whole series line .I m kind of worried. I know things have been difficult with covid and so but it's been very long to get this.. I know Ultimates version for Motu were always more expensive than regular motu classics release so I really hope it's worth it. Thanks for the review Dan and great comparison with the previous older versions
That second head... oh dear gosh.. Nooo! no no no!!
Can Mattel lion o use all the accessories from super 7? Let me know, thanks
That is a epic Lion-o
So I didn’t need jackleman for this wave so I went through bbts to preorder them and yesterday I got a shipment notice. While I can’t wait to get them what I don’t understand is why am I still waiting for the super7 tmnt wave 1 when I thought they shipped first? At least that’s what I thought brian said in your interview. I realize I’m going through a 3rd party but thought maybe someone might know.
So glad i ordered the whole wave, i missed out during the mattel release.
shame about this, these are obviously not better than the original Mattel releases, but it will be nice to fill out the cast of characters. maybe super-7 will try to clean the paint apps up in the future? I'm still looking forward to that ultimate form mumm-ra!
I just received my Lion-O and his torso crunch is very tight. Unfortunately Dan it appears yours was a dud, but it's not an issue with all of them.
Cancelled my preorders. Glad some people are happy with these, but...just...no.
i would like to cancel mine
But since i pre oredered in Super 7 web... just can´t-
Me too...
So glad I kept the Mattel one and passed on Wave 1! Loose Abs and a year and a half wait is too much to get me to buy.
Mattel figure with Super7 accessories (that sword is much nicer).
Well said. Hopefully an accessory pack comes out we can get.
But the sword cat logo is awful, Super7 can't do 2 things right.
I dont think the Red color on the New head is supposed to be there...
On toybros Version there was no red paint on it
It's on Toybro's version, too. Check out 11:09 in Toybro's video. The difference is that Toybro's paint runs from the hairline to the the brows whereas Pixel Dan's paint extends to the nose.
They just need to do Silverhawks & Tigersharks and call it a day!
The only things that bother me is the slight gap in the torso hinge and the weird multiple gripping hands. Other than that I don’t get all the hate. I love the snarling face and the show accurate claw shield. It SHOULD be shiny Lion-O wards off Mumm-Ra with his reflection in the shield.
They should have at least 90 degree bends at the elbow and knee to consider this good articulation
I swear the alternate set of fists was suppose to have the joint turned 90 degrees so he could do a proper sword held aloft pose and they just.. forgot? Was hoping it was just a mistake with early review copies.. but sure seems like it's just all of them.
Wish american companies would swap to figma/revoltech style joints for wrists so we just turn the peg and it can act either way.
Did you even notice that the logo on your sword of omens is missing its eye?
It looks like on your version of the super 7 version hes got heavier eyeliner, Hopefully mine won't have that. Lol the angry Lion-O Looks like he's taking a dump of Omens.
I'd be a lot happier if the paint were identical to Mattel's. Oh well, I might need this to go along with Mumm-Ra the Ever-Living at the very least.
I think they should have matched the light up eyes from the 80s seems like we cannot get a new lion o reincarnation with the light up eyes
I don't know. The vintage still holds up for me.
Solo las cejas rompen la magia de esta bella figura, las cejas apestan!!! Todo lo demás está muy pero muy bien. Gracias por el vídeo, todo bien.
Sight beyond sight❗❗❗🗡💪🏼👁👁⏳
Same freaking figure!😡 i rather go with Mattel. I hate that peg on the waist. You are screwed if it breaks.
Super7 lied, they didn't fix anything.
@@adamrandor9366 super 7 is full of crap. They just added a stupid book and head. I'm glad i don't support those stupid bastards.
Props to Super 7 for somehow getting away with selling $45 figures that have more limited articulation and QC issues than mass market $20 figures from Hasbro.
Sweet
wish the super7 version's eyes lit up
Entertainment Earth has him also.
the face is different, the box is different and the chest is different from the ones shown in the BBTS page , the ones shown in the BBTS page looks much better than this, is not that expensive but is definitely disappointing that is not accurate from the original presentation.
agreed, i dont mind so much about the box but the BBTS pic definitely doesn't reflect what we see here (they should have noted it was a promo pic for sure). its a bummer
Great review as always....had the super7 pre ordered but i just canceled it, I'm good with the Mattel one .
A truly fantastic and amazing figure. ☺︎ So glad this range is becoming a success.
These comments are hilarious...the amount of hostility for a toy reissue you had as a kid.
this is a re-issue of a collectible people had from Mattel. and i don't see much hostility, just disappointment from the majority. it definitely doesn't look like the promo pics unfortunately. i was on the fence about getting him, but don't think i'll bother now.
stahscream Okay, I’ll call it hostility you call it disappointment, that’s fair. I personally thought some of the minor differences looked better or at least different but not clearly worse but I just thought it was odd how universally negative the opinion was loose torso aside didn’t warrant that in my opinion but this is why I’m not a collector of anything. They just don’t seem to ever be satisfied.
So where are they...?
My eyes are wonky on my first headsculpt.
I wasn't into figure collecting when the Mattel figures came out, so I'm glad I stuck with my preorder for these guys. Sure, this new one doesn't look the exact same as the old ones, but I don't think it looks objectively worse. If you were looking for an improvement, then I guess you'll be disappointed, but I'll be glad to have the extra accessories.
the paint job on this figure is much better than the one reviewed by Toy Bro ...
Well this is pretty disappointing. I mostly grew up in the 00's and never saw the original and missed out on the 2011 reboot so sadly grew up without any version of ThunderCats. I've been watching original on Hulu recently though and I actually love it and I'll finally try the reboot after that but I know it'll be sad when I get to the end and want it to come back like everyone else. So I'd be all for some figures but from the ones I saw on display and everything I've heard about them it sounds like the end product just isn't good enough. Obviously I don't have the nostalgia to look over major flaws so I guess I'll be skipping this whole line.
Hopefully someone else gets the rights and the price point Hasbro, NECA, or McFarlane would put it at would be way more affordable anyway so ideally one of them would get it. I don't see much of anything else happening though unless something else gets started with the brand like a new cartoon (that isn't Roar), the original or 2011 series is resurrected, a live action movie, or even a AAA video game which I think would be awesome.
man memories are funny aren't they, I had the LJN Lion-o figure amongst other from the Thundercats line and I remember them being amazing so life like. This is the first time I've seen it in years...........really terrible isn't it. Suppose it just goes to show we have great imaginations as kids
Same horrible Mattel mold, Super7 wasn't make a new correct tooling with that good Four Horsemen prototype.
Lion-O is shorter, disproportionate and keeps the horrible abs/torso gaps. The prototype is the correct size, it isn't the Panthro size or smaller than Jackalman, that is a very serious issue.
They should making new tooling, not using old bad ones from Mattel, is the main character damn.
And about the pins, If they removed the pins in TMNT, perfectly can do it with ThunderCats, the new figures like Slithe will not have pins and this wave 1 will be totally inconsistent with them.
@Mephisto Emperor The issue is the midsection, not the legs.
Awesome Dan. I LOVE THE COMPARISON to the Mattel version. Thank you Thunder big time Dan.
He hase an infinity guantlet
I wish his articulation was the same as the Marvel legends figs
They should've made him taller.
The prototype was, they screwed it up.
To all the people who would get the Mattel Third Earth versions because of disappointments with this line...good luck getting them cheap anywhere.
It's basically the same mold with different paint apps lol the only difference is the glove and sword
Oh weird, your angry head looks like one of the pupils is double printed. Sloppy Super7 strikes again!
Man when are they going to bring back SILVER HAWKS!!!!
Am I the only one noticing the absence of Wilykit on the back of the box?
The image on the back of the box was an early promotional image that was made before Wilykit was added to the cast. It was done by Mike Germakain.
Shiny face as usual. You can see the difference with the painted Mattel version. It just works better. Surprise surprise!
Lack of silver on the sword. What is that about?....Somebody forget something?
Peg sticking out on the side of his waist...Is that there to be broken? Not a fan. Also looks hideous. I guess it's a personal preference, but would prefer to have a small hole in it's place and the plug on the claw. That's the easy version. You could always go the magnet route, but to be fair, that's a bit more sophisticated then I guess that we can expect from them.
Lack of space in the claw to fit the sword. Again...bad design/laziness. Is there really any other reason to why that wasn't fixed? We had the same issue before no? Geez...just sculpt that out so that it can slide in...
Similar hands. Again, aside from the lack of attention to detail what's the purpose here? Cheap throw-ins?
Then you've some miscellaneous other stuff as well. All things that have already talked about, but BAH! With the PD video, had to mention it again...
Why does the Mattel one look more like the promised product than the actual figure
The reason is that Super7, did a huge bait-and-switch.
@Pixek Dan Thanks for the great objective review. I appreciate you being fair with your assessment and discussing the high and low points.
Objective review? LOL
Mine has some real sloppy paint apps
I was inches from buying this But Now that I See How Small it actually is I just can't bring myself to spend 60$ but it is Awesome looking tho
Looks pretty cool i sit this wave out bc i already have the Matty ones. Cant wait for Mum-Ra transformed
Got mine on the way -
Super 7 probably bought the molds from Mattel.
I'm glad I passed on this. I'm happy with my Mattel version. The extra accessories were not worth paying the extra money for.
Kinda of cool, to display, it's not like people playing with them or are they 😂 but anyways I just got my notifications from BBTS processing my order, didn't have to wait long, I'll be waiting for the wave 2-3 notifications...hey it's still the Thundercats that's all that matters display them and let em shine.
This video actually made me again decide that I have to get the old one. I'm disappointed that you didn't make a bigger deal about the colors and lion-os eyes. The Mattel Version is all cartoon. This one however is more Carrot top. Not cool PD, I expected better advocacy from you. Super7 dropped the ball, they sold us completely different prototypes and you know it! Tell your buddy how f**ked up it is to lie to customers and to continue the course on this property.
in the cartoon, the length or height of his claw shield is between the lower part of his crotch to the upper part of his knee, or simply slightly bigger than his hand, these 4 is actually over sized.
the eye of thundera at the belt - Super 7 is much better
when the tank 7 can buy ? can it be sent to israel?
Who here want's Thundercats done by NECA? Half the price of S7 and 10 times the quality.
Btw, the really angry face is totally cross-eyed and not in a "focussed" way.
Neca has trash build quality too. What are you talking about?
@@cthuludreams1 and still 10 X better then S7. Try again, mate.
@unclassified Too bad only those are great, TC wave 1 is disastrous.
@unclassified true, don't have those. Good for them if they have good stuff to, the stuff I got to see and hold was just not up to par with others @ that pricepoint. If they would drop prices 20 bucks for these figs, I would have no problem with it. But these are 40-60 dollar figures, even more expensive here in Europe and they're just not worth it imo.
You're not getting a NECA for very much less than this unless you buy it in stores. And you can completely forget about finding them in stores. So $40 online is it.
Cancelled my orders...
Now I Have more money 😍
I think the Super7 figures overall look better
Hmmmmh rock mamoa Jason consyable makeup
Inherited Mattel issues, bad design, old joints, pin holes, misassembled parts and inaccurate paint job. Those is the Ultimate version of Thundercats?
Yeah super 7 lied when they said they were gonna fix the issues with the figures.
the paint on the face on the super7 looks sloppy compared to the mattel one.
@@baxterstockman2191 yep.
@Mephisto Emperor The Four Horsemen did a good job with the sculpt, Super7 is to blame for not finishing it properly.
Rock the paints noiiw pleaiise
If this Figure the way it is now Came out Back in the 80s It sure Wouldn't be sold for 60$ And I can't imagine many parents back in the 80s Spending that much for a toy! Toy Companies now Adays like Necca And Bandi are Kinda Ridiculous with the Cost of the Merchandise
I was meh on this at the start of the video, then he revealed the figure and I was instantly, I want this. Then I looked on ebay and £150. Nope I'm out.
That loose ab crunch and the wrist hinges are still wrong 😓
Face looks weird
yeh the face looks odd the paint also sloppy compared to the original
The eyes are dead and soulless because theyre painted half closed and the colors are all dingy and faded.
I wouldn’t talk
Up
Seems to be pretty good, but little pricey but I suppose this is the best we'll get for now. They improved the Sword's cross-guard, the curvature is a lot better and closer to how it is in the show (in closeup shots).